You can get the 2024 Limited and Longhorn trims for over 20,000 off at my local dealer. MSRP over 80K are selling for under 60K right now. Ram had always offered large incentives but changed for a bit and people just waited them out for it to come back. Jeep and Ram are really what funded all the profits for Stellantis for a long time.
I sure hope Ram doesn’t go out of business. I don’t wish for any business to fail. Ram makes great products and I appreciate the competition amongst brands and the resulting choices we get to make.
Indiana state police purchased 25.8 million dollars worth of vehicles from Stellantis. (Mass engine failures. ) No comments from Stellantis. The automaker and parent company of Dodge had failed to give the agency a timeline "to resolve the matter." That was in July of 2024. I heard about it through a lawyer. So, who knows...
It was such an odd story centered on Indiana. Say that because the Durango Pursuit is used across the country by many highway patrol agencies, but Indiana seems to be the only agency with a "total loss". Georgia State Police, Arkansas State Police, and Florida Highway Patrol use Chargers/Durango in 70%+ of their fleet and haven't reported catastrophic failures.
So you are saying the drop in sales is due to transition of the line-up and government emission standards? That sounds like the explanation that the senior management of Stellantis gives to the media. It is disingenuous. They are struggling because they raised prices too much, poor production planning (produced too many units), and bad product decisions.
This too like I said in the video: "They are struggling because they raised prices too much, poor production planning (produced too many units), and bad product decisions."
And GMs base engine for a full size is a 4cyl. A 4cyl! Ford's primary truck engines are all turbo sixes and have been for over 10 years. They're both big enough to have those V8s as an option as well. Ram is not. Neither is Toyota.
@@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel I have been testing vehicles up and down Pikes Peak, off road trails and towing in our Colorado Rocky Mountains for over 37 years. I have been in Team Ford, GM, Ram, Dodge, Chrysler etc. Your point is what?
@@Dusdaddy In the past 10 years there's been years where Ram has nearly outsold the Silverado. I think they can make it work to have both engines available.
I like Ram trucks, I have had 5 Eco-diesels with no problems. They have killed the 1500 diesel, Hemi V8 and now have a straight 6 engine that requires premium fuel and is rated at 21 MPG! What strategy is that. GM still has V8’s and 1500 diesels.
@@Lq32332 I don’t think you understand. Ram sold all shit ton of trucks in 2019 2020 and now that they are 20k more they aren’t selling😂😂 yeah I don’t understand anything 🤷♂️
@@Pickuptrucktalk okay but we don’t know how the 25s are gonna sell and I’m willing to bet they aren’t gonna sell well. A tungsten leases out at 1700+ per month for a damn lease. That’s not sustainable and in no situation does that even make any sense. No halfton should cost 93k period. Also from 2019 to 2024 it was the same truck, only difference was what ? Digital rearview mirror? Head up display ? Yeah sorry thats not worth a 15k to 20k price increase. Ram isn’t going anywhere but Stellantis is in big trouble if Carlos Tavaras doesn’t get fired or resigns
Just read a story about Stellantis and their financial position. They are predicting free cash flow for the year to be negative $5.6-$11.2 billion. Earlier this year they had predicted positive free cash flow. They’ve cut production and increased incentives just to clear excess inventory. They can’t really compete in China, which will probably be the same situation for most US car makers. China’s manufacturers can sell vehicles much cheaper than the US automakers plus EV sales are huge over there. We know Dodge & Ram have no EV’s to sell. Fiat has the 500 all electric I think, don’t know much about it. As for the European market, does Ram really have any significant market for their trucks or minivans over there?
They are converting one of their van brands in a Ram international brand and going global with the Ram name. They also build a Ram Rampage in South America.
Claiming Stellantis will go bankrupt anytime soon is premature… but buying a truck you’ll sell in a year doesn’t really prove any confidence in the brand either!
RAM won't go bankrupt but Not good with the poor sales. RAM prices went to high. I went to buy a Rebel but it was priced way to high so I bought a Silverado Trail boss for 10K less.
May not be the company as much as how bad our economy has become. Really depends on how fast they can adjust their prices down as the American.public continues having less and less money to spend with essentials going up in price.
I wanted a Ram with the V6. Not the new Hurricane. I just can't do it. Don't trust the reliability. Especially with all the stuff they're going through...
No im not worried here in Australia the Ram is the best seller , but they have stopped selling the classics so effectively they have lost half there sales , they still have a bigger range then the competition, but they are trying to get 2025 models here asap as the tundra is about to be released and the f150 has also come out , the F150 had lots of issues early on so there only selling 2023 models atm , Ram has a real chance to continue as the number one seller here if they can get true 2025 models here early next year.
Tim, I don't think that its relevant to compare 2019 pre-Stellantis sales to the company as it is today. Lots of changes since 2019, one being the terrible interest rates coupled with the very high ASP's throughout Covid and still today. Ford and GM also did not get rid of their V8 offerings in trucks, and still offer them today. Salesperson at my local Ford Dealership said that 50% of their F150 sales are still the 5.0. Personally, I think that Ram should have fixed the lifter tick issue in the Hemi and still offered it along with the new Turbo Charged in-line 6. I think that they are going to have to do more incentives and discounts to try and get the customers in the door to buy the remaining Hemi trucks, or they might go bankrupt.
Tim,those are terrible numbers compared to their competitors. The ram truck as you know it will be gone over the next 5-10 years. The Stellantis CEO and its leadership team are going to be telling its customers what they will like as a vehicle in the US, not what the customers want.
I just love watching countless trolls in Mopar chats who cant afford a used Kia, or are tired of their vehicle living at the Ford dealer, complain about something they cant afford, or aren't interested in buying anyway. The TFL toaster exposed alot. And all the hate just shows us its about misery and jealousy. So please show me on the doll where the RAM hurt you?
Stellantis just marked up the price of there trucks to make up for lost sales and revenue ? I dont think its a very thought out strategy ! Its destined to fail sooner or later !
Yes im worried reading Ram owners being really pissed off about the Hemi being gone.. that is the bread and butter customers mad as hell AND how about us Dakota fans Waiting 13 Flippin Years AND COUNTING for a New Dakota??????, bye bye
Maybe not now. I've been waiting for a year for a new truck. Just got my new 2024 rebel fully loaded because msrp is down 15% got it for 66k out the door
Not sure if you counted how many Class B truck chassis are being used in the surging RV industry (becoming the industry standard) as well as commercial van sales.
RAM prices too high. I looked at new RAM 1500's, nice truck but crazy pricing... plus... they are 'mild hybrid' with a true POS gimmick that's called "eTorque". My neighbor had a brand new 2022 with the eTorque (sadly, they all come with eTorque now) and he had so many problems with that stupid 'mild hybrid' system that he used State Lemon Law to force RAM to buy the truck back. Anyone looking at RAM, examine that eTorque and decide for yourself. IMHO it's a large headache, and an expensive one, as it's ONLY serviceable at the dealer! On the plus side, the 2019 Longhorn that I recently bought (without eTorque!) has the nicest interior I ever saw in a truck. I feel like a King driving that truck..... 👑
@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS - haha, 3 years, on a lease deal, I'll bet. In that case, I'd take one with eTorque too, cause it wouldn't cost me anything under warranty. But for me, I'm a long-term buyer. The eTorque is one of those things that doesn't bode well for a long-term owner like me. We will see how it plays out, but I am betting that eTorque will become disliked by many owners....... thanks for the reply
all the money wasted ,engineering on the demon 170 engine a new V8 could have been developed do like the 3.0 super charger whine no need for a 18 speaker sound system with trunk sub woofer
You aren't getting your pickup truck, buy a Toyota cyborg instead. Jeep and FIAT aren't selling their hybrids, the SST inline turbo would kick sales for Wrangler and Cherokee
GM has the cylinder deactivation. Like I said, you have two options: small displacement V6 or a V8 with cylinder deactivation. The V8 is basically a four-cylinder in most situations.
YEA well Studebaker used to sell Trucks as well. AND yes if I were you I would be worried. A new reasonable swing is occurring, and Cafe and Euro rules written by incompetent biased fools will be amended or re-written, AS merit trumps identity. That little ev thingy aint going to well is it THOUGH like I said soon you can get a tesla for 20 bucks a month and keep the real vehicle (Truck with a MANUAL) and use the ev as it was intended a toy but a useful toy.
Same crap gets spewed about Toyota reliability. Yep, no doubt, they had some issues, but it isn't the first time and won't be the last. Ram will be fine. They'll be even better if they stop worrying about cannibalizing Gladiator sales and bring out a new Dakota.
Tim I am new to your channel and so far I like it and yes I am a MOPAR fan , for the last 35+ years I love the Hemi and I wish they never dropped it but as for going to a I6 sorry I can`t do it !! Yes I did watch your video with the engineer on the I6 and it still did not convince me to purchase one . I am sorry but this is what happens when the government gets involved , Hell they could not fix a simple GASOLINE can spout " which in my opinion there was none" and they want me to believe that are helping with emissions by all these changes ....sorry I am not buying it !!! I will be keeping my eye out for your RHO video that will be interesting to see !!!!
Way too much money for RHO don’t be taken 😂? I paid 150,000 Canadian for a TRX and have 3 years warranty left full load front to back and paid cash for it so don’t need something less 😂😂😂😂😂
My neighbor growing up always told me only fat guys and tools drive dodge. Call it a ram but its a dodge. And the more I see the mopar folk, the more i understand. I am saying you fit the stereotype.
Let me guess...a Ram owner stole your girlfriend and now she won't talk to you. Don't worry, as soon as you get your Ford back from the latest recall, you can try to chase them down.
You can get the 2024 Limited and Longhorn trims for over 20,000 off at my local dealer. MSRP over 80K are selling for under 60K right now. Ram had always offered large incentives but changed for a bit and people just waited them out for it to come back. Jeep and Ram are really what funded all the profits for Stellantis for a long time.
This is what happens when a French company that doesn’t know its consumer target makes decisions only based on profits vs what the consumer wants
I sure hope Ram doesn’t go out of business. I don’t wish for any business to fail. Ram makes great products and I appreciate the competition amongst brands and the resulting choices we get to make.
Not really....
Was missing my Ford the first few days after buying my new 25 Ram. Today I drove it over a 10,000' mountain
range and back down the freeway. WOW!😊😊😊
Hurricane took care of business!
STOP PRODUCING UNRELIABLE $100K TRUCKS...
Indiana state police purchased 25.8 million dollars worth of vehicles from Stellantis. (Mass engine failures. ) No comments from Stellantis. The automaker and parent company of Dodge had failed to give the agency a timeline "to resolve the matter." That was in July of 2024. I heard about it through a lawyer. So, who knows...
It was such an odd story centered on Indiana. Say that because the Durango Pursuit is used across the country by many highway patrol agencies, but Indiana seems to be the only agency with a "total loss". Georgia State Police, Arkansas State Police, and Florida Highway Patrol use Chargers/Durango in 70%+ of their fleet and haven't reported catastrophic failures.
Respectfully disagree. They’re in for a rocky road ahead.
What's to disagree? I said they are going through a transition period aka rocky road.
We can argue that Ram isn't going out of business, but we can't argue that they have horrible management. They are bad!
So you are saying the drop in sales is due to transition of the line-up and government emission standards? That sounds like the explanation that the senior management of Stellantis gives to the media. It is disingenuous. They are struggling because they raised prices too much, poor production planning (produced too many units), and bad product decisions.
This too like I said in the video: "They are struggling because they raised prices too much, poor production planning (produced too many units), and bad product decisions."
Ford & GM still offer v8, v8 superchargers, diesels and 10speeds for heavy duty, medium duty and light duty which also have 8 speeds.
And GMs base engine for a full size is a 4cyl. A 4cyl! Ford's primary truck engines are all turbo sixes and have been for over 10 years. They're both big enough to have those V8s as an option as well. Ram is not. Neither is Toyota.
Ford people are so happy their tears fill the chats of Ram and Dodge videos
@@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevelthis love hate thing you have with Ford is amazing! 😂
@@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel I have been testing vehicles up and down Pikes Peak, off road trails and towing in our Colorado Rocky Mountains for over 37 years. I have been in Team Ford, GM, Ram, Dodge, Chrysler etc.
Your point is what?
@@Dusdaddy In the past 10 years there's been years where Ram has nearly outsold the Silverado. I think they can make it work to have both engines available.
JEEP IS in worse shape than RAM. Stellantis is sinking like the Titanic.
Did you miss the part where they made profit? No business that's making billions in profit is failing, or going out of business.
I like Ram trucks, I have had 5 Eco-diesels with no problems. They have killed the 1500 diesel, Hemi V8 and now have a straight 6 engine that requires premium fuel and is rated at 21 MPG! What strategy is that. GM still has V8’s and 1500 diesels.
In 2019 a ram limited was 65k fully loaded and now a fully loaded limited is 20k more for the same truck. What don’t you understand Tim ?
$65k in 2019 dollars is $81,290 in 2024 dollars. What don’t you understand Tyler?
@@Lq32332 I don’t think you understand. Ram sold all shit ton of trucks in 2019 2020 and now that they are 20k more they aren’t selling😂😂 yeah I don’t understand anything 🤷♂️
@@Lq32332 why does ford and GM still offer their V8s Mr I know everything
Are they the same truck though? Did you see the video I do with an older Ram vs a 2025 model? It is night and day different.
@@Pickuptrucktalk okay but we don’t know how the 25s are gonna sell and I’m willing to bet they aren’t gonna sell well. A tungsten leases out at 1700+ per month for a damn lease. That’s not sustainable and in no situation does that even make any sense. No halfton should cost 93k period. Also from 2019 to 2024 it was the same truck, only difference was what ? Digital rearview mirror? Head up display ? Yeah sorry thats not worth a 15k to 20k price increase. Ram isn’t going anywhere but Stellantis is in big trouble if Carlos Tavaras doesn’t get fired or resigns
When sales are down economists make it sound like there are NO sales. Need to follow the trends like Tim is doing. They still sold 100s of thousands.
Just read a story about Stellantis and their financial position. They are predicting free cash flow for the year to be negative $5.6-$11.2 billion. Earlier this year they had predicted positive free cash flow. They’ve cut production and increased incentives just to clear excess inventory. They can’t really compete in China, which will probably be the same situation for most US car makers. China’s manufacturers can sell vehicles much cheaper than the US automakers plus EV sales are huge over there. We know Dodge & Ram have no EV’s to sell. Fiat has the 500 all electric I think, don’t know much about it.
As for the European market, does Ram really have any significant market for their trucks or minivans over there?
They are converting one of their van brands in a Ram international brand and going global with the Ram name. They also build a Ram Rampage in South America.
If it’s 1000 more each truck fine, print it In the sticker price to show customers and continue to sell trucks everyone wants.
Claiming Stellantis will go bankrupt anytime soon is premature… but buying a truck you’ll sell in a year doesn’t really prove any confidence in the brand either!
RAM won't go bankrupt but Not good with the poor sales. RAM prices went to high. I went to buy a Rebel but it was priced way to high so I bought a Silverado Trail boss for 10K less.
May not be the company as much as how bad our economy has become. Really depends on how fast they can adjust their prices down as the American.public continues having less and less money to spend with essentials going up in price.
I wanted a Ram with the V6. Not the new Hurricane. I just can't do it. Don't trust the reliability. Especially with all the stuff they're going through...
They have lost 2% market share in NA....they are not selling more trucks...
No im not worried here in Australia the Ram is the best seller , but they have stopped selling the classics so effectively they have lost half there sales , they still have a bigger range then the competition, but they are trying to get 2025 models here asap as the tundra is about to be released and the f150 has also come out , the F150 had lots of issues early on so there only selling 2023 models atm , Ram has a real chance to continue as the number one seller here if they can get true 2025 models here early next year.
Tim, I don't think that its relevant to compare 2019 pre-Stellantis sales to the company as it is today. Lots of changes since 2019, one being the terrible interest rates coupled with the very high ASP's throughout Covid and still today. Ford and GM also did not get rid of their V8 offerings in trucks, and still offer them today. Salesperson at my local Ford Dealership said that 50% of their F150 sales are still the 5.0. Personally, I think that Ram should have fixed the lifter tick issue in the Hemi and still offered it along with the new Turbo Charged in-line 6. I think that they are going to have to do more incentives and discounts to try and get the customers in the door to buy the remaining Hemi trucks, or they might go bankrupt.
Tim,those are terrible numbers compared to their competitors. The ram truck as you know it will be gone over the next 5-10 years. The Stellantis CEO and its leadership team are going to be telling its customers what they will like as a vehicle in the US, not what the customers want.
It's a combination of poor quality/reliability issues and high prices. And of course the cost of living crisis and economic problems
Ram is a huge name. They'll figure it out and be fine I think.
Not really, it’s only three letters.
@@cwqrpportable True haha
I just love watching countless trolls in Mopar chats who cant afford a used Kia, or are tired of their vehicle living at the Ford dealer, complain about something they cant afford, or aren't interested in buying anyway.
The TFL toaster exposed alot. And all the hate just shows us its about misery and jealousy. So please show me on the doll where the RAM hurt you?
In the pocket book. Discontinuing the Classic is a prime example of you wanting to cover for a really bad decision on the part of Tavares.
Stellantis just marked up the price of there trucks to make up for lost sales and revenue ? I dont think its a very thought out strategy ! Its destined to fail sooner or later !
I believe China had a 3 litre engine maximum size. That's why you see so many engines this size or less.
Well if everyone knock off 5 to 10,000 off trucks they will sale more truck and stop upping the price. So people can buy the trucks
AI don't think they are going bankrupt. But they won't do near as well as they did for a few years. They made some good trucks for a bit at least.
Yes im worried reading Ram owners being really pissed off about the Hemi being gone.. that is the bread and butter customers mad as hell AND how about us Dakota fans Waiting 13 Flippin Years AND COUNTING for a New Dakota??????, bye bye
I've owned three hemis and I'm ready for something new. Why not a I6?
One thing that transpired in last year is Chevron deference case! It’s related to EPA regulations etc! Doesn’t this reverse emissions? Just asking!
Not exactly. Did you catch my video on it with the interviews with experts?
Watch it here:
ua-cam.com/video/nT9GlP5gip0/v-deo.html
Maybe not now. I've been waiting for a year for a new truck. Just got my new 2024 rebel fully loaded because msrp is down 15% got it for 66k out the door
Do overall financial report with all Stellantis brands...
Not sure if you counted how many Class B truck chassis are being used in the surging RV industry (becoming the industry standard) as well as commercial van sales.
RAM prices too high. I looked at new RAM 1500's, nice truck but crazy pricing... plus... they are 'mild hybrid' with a true POS gimmick that's called "eTorque". My neighbor had a brand new 2022 with the eTorque (sadly, they all come with eTorque now) and he had so many problems with that stupid 'mild hybrid' system that he used State Lemon Law to force RAM to buy the truck back. Anyone looking at RAM, examine that eTorque and decide for yourself. IMHO it's a large headache, and an expensive one, as it's ONLY serviceable at the dealer! On the plus side, the 2019 Longhorn that I recently bought (without eTorque!) has the nicest interior I ever saw in a truck. I feel like a King driving that truck..... 👑
Had my e torque for 3 years, no issues , the etorque is flawless 😁
I also had one. Worked great. The only truck with the auto start that never hesitates at the stop lights.
eTorque yeah is proven to be extremely reliable in all ram trucks, and I've had several myself...
@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS - haha, 3 years, on a lease deal, I'll bet. In that case, I'd take one with eTorque too, cause it wouldn't cost me anything under warranty. But for me, I'm a long-term buyer. The eTorque is one of those things that doesn't bode well for a long-term owner like me. We will see how it plays out, but I am betting that eTorque will become disliked by many owners....... thanks for the reply
@@ChevySS1968 Many Rams well over 150 thousand miles... no issues ..
Yea that fancy turbo 6 put them in the poor house
Rams sales started falling for 2023 and for 2024 model years. They only offered a Hemi those years…
Dropping like a Chevy rock when the in-line 6 came out
all the money wasted ,engineering on the demon 170 engine a new V8 could have been developed do like the 3.0 super charger whine no need for a 18 speaker sound system with trunk sub woofer
You aren't getting your pickup truck, buy a Toyota cyborg instead. Jeep and FIAT aren't selling their hybrids, the SST inline turbo would kick sales for Wrangler and Cherokee
the hemi has had mds since 2005 or so
Bought a 2024 f150 and it’s junk looking to get a ram next
Governments think there going to save the world twin turbos not changing anything.What chose due u have if u need a truck when in rome
I learned nothing here today ,..
So why does ford and GM still offer their V8s ? Come on Tim I’m listening
Because they have 4 different engine options for their trucks. Including a diesel silly.
@@angelr4429 that’s such a piss poor excuse
@tylermichaud8699 haha...but it's the truth whether you like it or not.
GM has the cylinder deactivation. Like I said, you have two options: small displacement V6 or a V8 with cylinder deactivation. The V8 is basically a four-cylinder in most situations.
YEA well Studebaker used to sell Trucks as well. AND yes if I were you I would be worried. A new reasonable swing is occurring, and Cafe and Euro rules written by incompetent biased fools will be amended or re-written, AS merit trumps identity. That little ev thingy aint going to well is it THOUGH like I said soon you can get a tesla for 20 bucks a month and keep the real vehicle (Truck with a MANUAL) and use the ev as it was intended a toy but a useful toy.
THANK YOU 🙏
Same crap gets spewed about Toyota reliability. Yep, no doubt, they had some issues, but it isn't the first time and won't be the last. Ram will be fine. They'll be even better if they stop worrying about cannibalizing Gladiator sales and bring out a new Dakota.
I'm sure even you don't think that most "journalists" like facts. :)
No gear shift lever option for 2025. Now all have the crappy volume knob gear shifter 👎
The RHO has a gear shifter.
So you have one?
But "chicken-little" videos get clicks! Good to see you still have journalistic integrity and don't just spew hyperbole.
Untamed motors can’t comprehend this concept.
The only truck id buy is a Ram , no issues on my 22 Ram Limited , they have been the most awarded most reliable pickup RAM-1500 KING OF TRUCKS 👌
This guy again lol
oh boy.
@@davidleeosbourne2727 cant escape him.
Never had 1 issue with all 4 of the rams I owned
Don’t you get a new truck like every 2 years? Haha my god I’d hope you don’t have issues🤣
Tim I am new to your channel and so far I like it and yes I am a MOPAR fan , for the last 35+ years I love the Hemi and I wish they never dropped it but as for going to a I6 sorry I can`t do it !! Yes I did watch your video with the engineer on the I6 and it still did not convince me to purchase one . I am sorry but this is what happens when the government gets involved , Hell they could not fix a simple GASOLINE can spout " which in my opinion there was none" and they want me to believe that are helping with emissions by all these changes ....sorry I am not buying it !!! I will be keeping my eye out for your RHO video that will be interesting to see !!!!
Funny you brought up the gasoline can spout. I'm still upset over that decision.
Dude, sunscreen!
Embarrassed; he ordered one, Oh No!
Nobody is going bankrupt
Way too much money for RHO don’t be taken 😂? I paid 150,000 Canadian for a TRX and have 3 years warranty left full load front to back and paid cash for it so don’t need something less 😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you for this. It makes sense.
My neighbor growing up always told me only fat guys and tools drive dodge.
Call it a ram but its a dodge. And the more I see the mopar folk, the more i understand.
I am saying you fit the stereotype.
Thanks for watching!
Let me guess...a Ram owner stole your girlfriend and now she won't talk to you. Don't worry, as soon as you get your Ford back from the latest recall, you can try to chase them down.