I see so many plot holes. The author focused so much on Sylvanas that they forgot about the other characters. The pace of storytelling was swift for the Northrend campaign. There is no way she could get from Howling Fjord to Icecrown killing Ally and Horde alike, even taking down Tyrion without any of the factions knowing. Also, Lich King was everpresent everywhere in Northrend he knew and saw far more than just through the eye in Icecrown. I highly doubt he would leave Sylvanas to do whatever she wanted and just march to Icecrown. Remember in the game the Lich King was challenging us (players) constantly so we could gain power only to lure us into a trap while fighting him at last. What about the Sylvanas from that time? She would be the first to know that there is something amiss. Forsaken were zealots for her but her wielding shadow death magic, as well as commanding the Val'kyr could easily appear as they are manipulated by an agent of the Lich King. I really loved the idea of this story together with images and stuff but the key to writing a good story is to consider all angles of the problem, all stances of the characters, not just one.
True that lich king would probably find out soon after Valgarde fell and true that northrend forsaken may not trust this surprise sylvanas appearing out of nowhere. If I make more of these I'll try be more consistent. Definitely bit off more than I could chew. Originally I wanted a 15 min video haha so time frames are off towards the middle and end. Thanks for watching!
@@ScorpRogue She can work from the shadows to ambush and kill arthas, considering that by shadowlands she for sure is a lot more powerful than death knight Arthas.
yo i loved this, the follow up expansion would def be the dragons finding the slain red dragon and sending the bronze dragonflight to change the timeline again
So Sylvanas became a dictator, attacked pretty much every alliance and horde settlement, without anyone noticing, kills tirion and all the paladins without facing any resistance. She made an army equal to arthas' army, and conquered the whole world with no opposition. Dont get me wrong. It is a worthwhile effort. But i think it is lacking. Imagine if this was a turn based combat game. It is like it is always sylvanas' turn if that makes sense. You neglected to account for the other factors. Sylvanas or anyone else, would never have been able to cause so much havoc, create an army 1/3 the size of that of northrend, and go unnoticed by everyone. The dragons would know. Nozdormu can tell if the timeline is being distorted. Also the modified plague. You are saying that they bombarded the frozen throne platform with it, yet somehow only arthas was damaged while sylvanas who also had a small army with her (lets say the size of a raid group) werent caught in the blast, apart from some insignificant minions.Some pinpoint accuracy that is. I just think it is all too convenient
Idk man! sylvanas is pretty strong. If she can one-shot saurfang in an instant blast I'd reckon tirion could be defeated in a surprise attack. In the story her army towards the end is at most 1/5th the size of Arthas army, so she has to use deception to cause ulduar's forces to battle the scourge and weaken them until her army isn't outnumbered. I addressed horde becoming aware, so sylvanas having to kill off their leaders, and even killing off a dragon to prevent the aspects discovering what's up too. Probably true that she'd be discovered anyway though. It wasn't clear because of cinematic footage but it's implied arthas left his citadel to battle the stormforged armies in the glacier, and that it's here that the final confrontation takes place. You're right that's it's definitely a very convenient plot, but I wanted to portray the main character of the story winning. Steve Danuser would be proud lmao. I'll try to be more consistent with future videos. thanks for your comment!
Sylvanas on her way to Shadowlands said "This world is a trap" and I believed she was sincere. As either a servant of the Jailer, or the later Sylvanas, she had her eyes on something higher than ruling one dusty old world.
I member that blizzard said that battle for Azeroth was going to be a buddy expansion between thrall and voljin, of course they didn’t do it. Perhaps, you could make one story involving those two? Extra points if you make it funny 👍
What would happen is Slyvanas would show up at the frozen throne expecting to pack him up the way she did with Bulvar. The Horde would be there, and they'd be all rizzed up about her. They would be saying "you're so strong Sylvanas! You'll put him in the ground for sure!" But when the fight comes Arthas will see what he's dealing with and telekineticly spank her. Expectations subverted! Everybody in the Horde's jaws will collectively drop. And Sylvanas will realize even after all this time that THIS lich king was much more powerful than Bulvar and consequently even her all these years later because, as it turns out, Arthas had still collected many times more souls than her in his world wide campaigns against the living. Frostmourne! &&%$#@!
If this video gets 3,000 views I'll make another like this!! ... Comment below which character and alternate time period you'd like to see next! (just in case heh)
Wouldnt the Jailor in control of the LK defeated Sylvanas? Wouldnt the rest of the Horde, Sylvanas and the rest actually went against her?the ending part seemed lacking in more sustained
I assumed lich king has his own will and isn't controlled by Jailor however not up to date on SL lore. Maybe horde would find out what's happening, but that's why she'd have to take out their northrend leadership (garrosh etc), to keep the truth under wraps until she claimed the sword and helm. Horde isn't only missing the forsaken part of their army, but lich queen sylvanas would have those forces to use as her own. Possibly young sylvanas would rebel, but the forsaken back home would probably side with her stronger future self. Lich queen knows of Gilneas (thanks to cata) and with most of the horde and alliance armies in northrend, eastern kingdoms should be easy to conquer. That said, it is implied the horde and remaining alliance leaders in kalimdor are planning an offensive. With deathwing on the horizon, anything could happen. thanks for watching!
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Funny how you manage to make more sense in your fiction than what woltk did, because well, LK not paying any attention about Ulduar be for the fight with Yogg, or when the alliance and horde attacked Ulduar (which would have left him free to attack Dalaran) made no sense ever. But he, peple love wotlk so they never says the expacs have flaws in its lore, while they have a tons.
It depends how early on this happened. If it's before the events of Ulduar, these heroes may not be geared adequately by this time. Perhaps classic wrath parsers would manage with naxx tier gear? But since this occurred in original wrath, back in 2008, I don't know if they'd have the gamer skills to manage such a feat!
@@ScorpRogue what you mean by "inspired" don't you just feep AI with some samples of given voice and then when it learns its patterns and characteristics it generates "that voice" kinda?
@@FAILoZOFF ahh I understand. ye normally true. problem was there's too much background noise (music, ambience etc) baked into those intros so I could only get parts of the audio and had to clean it, and had to mix what was left with other similar voices to make it coherent. It's not exactly the same sadly but close enough. Without music from the video, if I turn it way up you can almost hear the scuffed background noise. I once tried to replicate Arthas Lich King voice, different problem where that deathly demonic undertone doesn't work very well in ai. It's hit or miss with most voices. Same reason VoiceOver addon for Classic sounds so bad for Dwarven NPCs.
![The Story of Wrath of the Lich King Classic [Lore]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/n1qudxuGmRc/mqdefault.jpg)
Not quite 3,000 views but honestly didn't expect even 500 views so I'll take it! Next What If video is on its way! Stay Tuned!
shes still doing dailies in the maw
the worst version of hell imaginable
I see so many plot holes. The author focused so much on Sylvanas that they forgot about the other characters. The pace of storytelling was swift for the Northrend campaign. There is no way she could get from Howling Fjord to Icecrown killing Ally and Horde alike, even taking down Tyrion without any of the factions knowing. Also, Lich King was everpresent everywhere in Northrend he knew and saw far more than just through the eye in Icecrown. I highly doubt he would leave Sylvanas to do whatever she wanted and just march to Icecrown. Remember in the game the Lich King was challenging us (players) constantly so we could gain power only to lure us into a trap while fighting him at last. What about the Sylvanas from that time? She would be the first to know that there is something amiss. Forsaken were zealots for her but her wielding shadow death magic, as well as commanding the Val'kyr could easily appear as they are manipulated by an agent of the Lich King. I really loved the idea of this story together with images and stuff but the key to writing a good story is to consider all angles of the problem, all stances of the characters, not just one.
True that lich king would probably find out soon after Valgarde fell and true that northrend forsaken may not trust this surprise sylvanas appearing out of nowhere. If I make more of these I'll try be more consistent. Definitely bit off more than I could chew. Originally I wanted a 15 min video haha so time frames are off towards the middle and end. Thanks for watching!
This is the Shadowlands we didn't know we needed
I always love a what if story
same!
she would probably beat tirion but uh idk man it doesnt sit well with me, Tirion was a total chad.
Let's be real if she could go back in time, she'd go back to before she died to stop Arthas from raiding Silvermoon.
if she could choose when, 100%, though not sure how her fellow high elves would treat an undead sylvanas
@@ScorpRogue She can work from the shadows to ambush and kill arthas, considering that by shadowlands she for sure is a lot more powerful than death knight Arthas.
@@rattlehead999 true! death knight arthas would get rolled lol
or maybe before Arthas got corrupted by Frostmourne.
yo i loved this, the follow up expansion would def be the dragons finding the slain red dragon and sending the bronze dragonflight to change the timeline again
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So Sylvanas became a dictator, attacked pretty much every alliance and horde settlement, without anyone noticing, kills tirion and all the paladins without facing any resistance. She made an army equal to arthas' army, and conquered the whole world with no opposition. Dont get me wrong. It is a worthwhile effort. But i think it is lacking. Imagine if this was a turn based combat game. It is like it is always sylvanas' turn if that makes sense. You neglected to account for the other factors. Sylvanas or anyone else, would never have been able to cause so much havoc, create an army 1/3 the size of that of northrend, and go unnoticed by everyone. The dragons would know. Nozdormu can tell if the timeline is being distorted. Also the modified plague. You are saying that they bombarded the frozen throne platform with it, yet somehow only arthas was damaged while sylvanas who also had a small army with her (lets say the size of a raid group) werent caught in the blast, apart from some insignificant minions.Some pinpoint accuracy that is. I just think it is all too convenient
Idk man! sylvanas is pretty strong. If she can one-shot saurfang in an instant blast I'd reckon tirion could be defeated in a surprise attack. In the story her army towards the end is at most 1/5th the size of Arthas army, so she has to use deception to cause ulduar's forces to battle the scourge and weaken them until her army isn't outnumbered. I addressed horde becoming aware, so sylvanas having to kill off their leaders, and even killing off a dragon to prevent the aspects discovering what's up too. Probably true that she'd be discovered anyway though. It wasn't clear because of cinematic footage but it's implied arthas left his citadel to battle the stormforged armies in the glacier, and that it's here that the final confrontation takes place. You're right that's it's definitely a very convenient plot, but I wanted to portray the main character of the story winning. Steve Danuser would be proud lmao. I'll try to be more consistent with future videos. thanks for your comment!
Sylvanas on her way to Shadowlands said "This world is a trap" and I believed she was sincere. As either a servant of the Jailer, or the later Sylvanas, she had her eyes on something higher than ruling one dusty old world.
So... many... plot holes...
What of Kelthuzad? Does he wisk away arthas's body to ressurect him? What of the mind of Nerzhul still lingering in the helm? i love this alt history
thanks for watching!
I believe arthas killed ner'zhul and became the sole mind when he merged with the lich king
I member that blizzard said that battle for Azeroth was going to be a buddy expansion between thrall and voljin, of course they didn’t do it. Perhaps, you could make one story involving those two? Extra points if you make it funny 👍
good idea!
What would happen is Slyvanas would show up at the frozen throne expecting to pack him up the way she did with Bulvar. The Horde would be there, and they'd be all rizzed up about her. They would be saying "you're so strong Sylvanas! You'll put him in the ground for sure!" But when the fight comes Arthas will see what he's dealing with and telekineticly spank her. Expectations subverted! Everybody in the Horde's jaws will collectively drop. And Sylvanas will realize even after all this time that THIS lich king was much more powerful than Bulvar and consequently even her all these years later because, as it turns out, Arthas had still collected many times more souls than her in his world wide campaigns against the living. Frostmourne! &&%$#@!
-I wonder what would have happened, if the two Sylvanas Windrunners had met....?
Do current Jaina Proudmoore to before theramore is destroyed next please!!
could be a fun video!
If this video gets 3,000 views I'll make another like this!! ... Comment below which character and alternate time period you'd like to see next! (just in case heh)
Wouldnt the Jailor in control of the LK defeated Sylvanas? Wouldnt the rest of the Horde, Sylvanas and the rest actually went against her?the ending part seemed lacking in more sustained
I assumed lich king has his own will and isn't controlled by Jailor however not up to date on SL lore.
Maybe horde would find out what's happening, but that's why she'd have to take out their northrend leadership (garrosh etc), to keep the truth under wraps until she claimed the sword and helm.
Horde isn't only missing the forsaken part of their army, but lich queen sylvanas would have those forces to use as her own. Possibly young sylvanas would rebel, but the forsaken back home would probably side with her stronger future self.
Lich queen knows of Gilneas (thanks to cata) and with most of the horde and alliance armies in northrend, eastern kingdoms should be easy to conquer. That said, it is implied the horde and remaining alliance leaders in kalimdor are planning an offensive.
With deathwing on the horizon, anything could happen.
thanks for watching!
The writing is hilarious, it kind of comes off as parody.
lol this is actually awesome
thanks!
Great. Another Sylvanas simp, didn't we have enough of that already?
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Funny how you manage to make more sense in your fiction than what woltk did, because well, LK not paying any attention about Ulduar be for the fight with Yogg, or when the alliance and horde attacked Ulduar (which would have left him free to attack Dalaran) made no sense ever.
But he, peple love wotlk so they never says the expacs have flaws in its lore, while they have a tons.
Nonsence brave azeroth heroes whud defead silvanas on top of the ice crown citadel.......
It depends how early on this happened. If it's before the events of Ulduar, these heroes may not be geared adequately by this time. Perhaps classic wrath parsers would manage with naxx tier gear? But since this occurred in original wrath, back in 2008, I don't know if they'd have the gamer skills to manage such a feat!
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3,000 views and I will make more!
@@ScorpRogue I like this video I need more thank you very much
is this Ai generated story?
narrator is ai text-to-speech using elevenlabs, but script had to be made manually
@@ScorpRogue isnt that a voice of actor that made classic character intros?
@@FAILoZOFF custom voice but inspired by that voice yep
@@ScorpRogue what you mean by "inspired" don't you just feep AI with some samples of given voice and then when it learns its patterns and characteristics it generates "that voice" kinda?
@@FAILoZOFF ahh I understand. ye normally true. problem was there's too much background noise (music, ambience etc) baked into those intros so I could only get parts of the audio and had to clean it, and had to mix what was left with other similar voices to make it coherent. It's not exactly the same sadly but close enough. Without music from the video, if I turn it way up you can almost hear the scuffed background noise. I once tried to replicate Arthas Lich King voice, different problem where that deathly demonic undertone doesn't work very well in ai. It's hit or miss with most voices. Same reason VoiceOver addon for Classic sounds so bad for Dwarven NPCs.
Is this whole thing just AI generated? Seems so.
I'd say 40% I leaned on it too much in some areas and not enough in others. Next video will be better.
woah... so blizzard did use ai to create that story... it's utterly horrible 😂😂
it wouldn't surprise me