If you just want to check out SteamVR and don't have a Quest, I would say this is a nice method to do so, you don't need the base stations or controllers, it works without them. But, if you want 6-DOF we can get creative! What are your craziest ways of playing VR?
I 3D printed my own headset bought some lenses, and use riftcat; for controller i use nintendo wiimotes (Driver4VR); and sometimes fullbody tracking with a camera. About ARCore positional tracking, somebody already made this (kind of), but doesn't work that good, and does crash after a couple of minutes of use. The app is called "VRidgeHeadTracking", and is available Google Play store. There are also some other people that tried using a phone's accelometer, and send that data to opentrack. That one is called "Head Tracker for OpenTrack", also available on Google Play store.
I'm not too sure but it sounds like you can do this with a used oculus go especially now that the architecture has been unlocked for it. Pretty great if you just have one laying around.
Before I had my Quest I was playing VR by streaming Steam VR to my phone, I had 4 PS3 cameras taped to each corner of my ceiling and I used PS Move controllers for my hands and 6DOF head tracking. It was enough to get me to experience all vive games back in 2017. There was a whole entire channel dedicated for this VR setup back in the day but has since become inactive. Look up Daley Tech, he was a huge supporter of the PS Move Service for Steam VR community. I was actually the one to design the icons for cameras and controllers for Steam VR in PS Move Service, it was a small contribution but I'm glad to have helped the VR community when it was most inaccessible.
what i dont get is why 'gaming' smartphone companies dont capitalise on this. they could design a high quality, comfortable headset that would complement the specific phone well kinda like an upgraded gear vr. they could use their own solution for streaming from pc or use other solutions such as amd link or riftcat. basically a n oculus quest that doubles as your smartphone. i feel like 'gaming' phones could be so much more than whatever tf kind of cashgrab they are now. they could at least have a slide out gamepad like the old playstation phone...
i mean amd have such feature in adrenaline driver, is it that good ? apparently it is, i tried, and i say its hot garbage compared, just get ALVR or virtual desktop
Cardboard vr enclosures seem to have a bad habit of being designed for very low nose bridges. Index controllers and two base stations is 577 usd, from Valve, and they're always sold out. This was an interesting experiment, though. Edit: I actually played through the entirety of Psychonauts Rhombus of Ruin using this method, minus the 6dof and controllers. I just used my normal wired game controller. I switched between trinus and rift cat. At some points in the game the game expects you to move your head forward to look at things, which you obviously can't do if you only have 3dof, but one of the programs (I think maybe it was trinus?) had the option to move your head location forward and I was able to continue the game. It was incredibly ghetto.
I have owned every iteration of the gear VR and seen its evolution go from gear VR innovator to the quest 2. If you look closely at the architecture of the quest you'll see that it's built right on top of the gear vr's infrastructure.
Thanks for making this video and other videos like it. You're one of the few larger VR creators that features weird janky diy vr set ups. While not the best way to experience VR it's definitely the cheapest if you put in the effort and I think it's super important that people show VR doesn't have to be prohibitively expesive without relinquishing control to our corprate overloards. Not to mention I think the people working in and making stuff for the hacker side of vr deserve more credit and exposure for all the cool stuff they do cause this is essentially the roots of vr as we know it today.
I can say the one experiment I did try out is with Leap Motion. When you have the hands in the front, it works fantastic with tracking. Once out of the area, it doesn't work. It it has a wider rance, that would be cool and if there is a USB Transceiver you can hook it up to, that would work awesome. I've done the Move/VRidge/Samsung Galaxy S7/Galaxy VR headset as my first and I agree, you do get motion sickness from it. This was before I got the Rift and Rift S
I use VR with a phone headset, and an app called Ivry which imo works way better than riftcat, plus it allows wired connections. You can also connect joycons with an app called driver4vr, and you can reset the controller position if the tracking gets messed up.
@@TheMysticle You should try VR without a headset. Using DRIVER4VR I used to play like this I had another thing open of my webcam tracking my face so I could move in VR and I used WII Remotes as my controllers. Or you can use nintendo switch controllers.
I did something kinda similar a few months ago, I had an old Gear VR headset and my Galaxy S22 fit nicely in it so I gave it a go with VRidge e playing Star Wars Squadrons with my phone paired to a Bluetooth game controller and it worked! Jank as heck but it worked. Looked pretty good too.
Sometimes "because I can" is enough. Even if you don't enjoy the results, pushing limits and trying new things drives the industry forward. PCVR is still my preferred way to play, so any attention to it is welcome.
Idea. A open source %100 modular vr headset. Easy to disassemble and change parts. Half the weight in the back of the headset (battery/possessing hardware) with a thin light front (just the screens and lenses) with options like have the main hardware separately as a pack that you can wear as a backpack (if its a large unit) or in your pocket for a smaller less capable pod. All parts should be available and plans and software is free. What do you think?
I’m glad someone else had this idea I’ve had three VR headsets and all of them are wired and I wanted to try something that was wireless and this is the first thing that came to mind
Do this with Gear VR with a phone that fits, a cable that could hopefully connect to the phone, a gaming PC, and you're finished. You heard me? YOU'RE F***ING FINISHED💯💯💯💯💯💯
This is how I got into VR in the first place - Kinect, phone with a broken digitizer, Dirver4VR. Eventually upgraded to proper VR, but it gave me access to experience Elite:Dangerous in VR, and it worked and it got me invested, which was the point of the experiment! I'd certainly not start with anything like base stations though... bare minimum and only buy stuff which can later be used for something else. For me, a Kinectv2 made sense to get as it gives you access to cheap FBT down the line, and they can be found for next to nothing on ebay, with some hunting.
I used to use Riftcat before I got my Quest 2 and it was actually an ok experience, although I didn't have 6DoF at all and I needed to use an Xbox controller for most games lol
Please be my friend I've been watching your videos for a year now and I'm not familiar how to use discord. I have been on root enthusiast for 10 years and doing stuff like these experiments is my absolute favorite. I know you don't know this but I tried to even recommend you for a job with meta not that long ago. Many connections at that company. DM me somehow if you are interested. You're one of the coolest guys on UA-cam you got that dork swagger and you are obviously naturally gifted. Europeans are some of the most authentic and kindest people. You never make clickbait to get people to watch your videos. You're my favorite VR content creator. Europe is so much more interested in VR than America. Hope we can be friends
What about using SlimeVR to track your head? It's an even cheaper option... As far as I Know you could also atach them to some bluetooth controlers to emulate the vive controllers (?. Ultra cheap VR
The phone man: -phone as headset -phones as ankle trackers -phones as knees -phone as waist tracker -phone as chest tracker -phones on elbows -phones as controllers
I love experiments like this. You did not, however cover one of the best parts of vridge with this setup. You can stream any PC game to the mobile headset and just have it in 3dof mode with an xbox controller (The headset just overwrites the right stick/mouse head movement). Some games work perfectly fine this way (Star Wars Squadrons type flight sims, any first person shooter or adventure like CSGO, skyrim, or vermintide 2. Skyrim VR is janky, and you might be better off playing regular skyrim like this.) This is something you usually cannot do with a 6dof headset, making this more versatile than getting a quest2. At least with this setup when you get a new phone, you also get a new headset, unlike the unfortunate souls still playing with a gen 1 HTC vive or original quest. It is not as immersive, without a katwalk C, Vario, perfect hand tracking and a haptic suit, there's always something to break the immersion anyway, so this still seems like a viable way to explore open worlds to me.
I still have my Samsung Galaxy S8+ and use it for Netflix and a few simple games. It would be fun if I could get an app that would use the camera to do room tracking to prevent drift while using the gyros for the main tracking, and then supported USB-C to function as a wired headset for my PC.
I wouldn't mind seeing a video on the PS Move 6DoF phone VR. It was one of my earliest 6DoF VR experiences as well, and though it was jank, it did work. My own setup was with two PSMoves, a table tennis ball with an LED crammed in, and three PS3 Eyes painstakingly taped up in the corners, and it barely worked but it was satisfying that I made it function at all. I'm curious if the software behind it's improved enough to be remotely viable now.
you can use 3 trackers as controllers too 1 for head 2 for hands and u can also use hand tracking with driver 4 vr and head tracking so yeah as long as you have a good camera and a mild patience you can get it to work without trackers
you see, when you have terrible internet, but need that JUICY wireless vr, you have to think of some creative ways to get it to work. The best way i've done it is really rediculous. I have both my quest 2 and laptop connected to my phone's 5g 5ghz hotspot, and then connect my phone to my pc's 5ghz hotspot, practically tethering them directly to each other for little to no latency and great performance with virtual desktop. For reference, I have 6Mbit/s internet or around 500KB/s download speeds.
there is iVRy which uses ARCore and its about 5 to 10 euro and support psvr and other devices, there is a demo but after 5 to 10 minutes it will go black and white
If you already have a steamvr setup and you'd want local multiplayer (in the same play space) I could actually see an use case for this. You'd obviously need a better headset (e.g googles daydream view is at least somewhat comfortable in my opinion) but I can't think of any game that has local multiplayer like that, neither do I know if steamvr even supports multiple headsets at the same time. Also you'd still need an additional pair of controllers.
My opinion on the matter: Perceived resolution doesn't only have to do with panel resolution. Contrast and color depth play a huge role on it... When you have a smartphone with an OLED panel, you basically get a way better panel when compared to a quest 2... Now when it comes to the rest of the headset, what would this video be like if you have found a better headset. Better lenses, better ergonomics... What if somehow you have found one with comparable FOV and lens quality to the quest 2? O_O What then? Especially with the 4K OLED phone you were using, you should have a better visual experience. While I do believe that full VR tracking with a smartphone is a bit overkill, I think that VR smartphone headset with the addition of a Bluetooth gamepad is a nice and chill option to enjoy many games...
I agree, it's cool. Would be nice to have a setup where the VR headset is just the "display" wnd our phones would do all the processing. Thinking like LapDock or or NexDock for Samsung Dex, but for VR. Phone would need cooling though but I am pretty sure the new Sd 8 Gen 1 12Gb could handle more than the XR2. 🤷🏽♂️ Also we could upgrade our VR headsets internals... But for that we need better displays, that's worth keeping for 5 years.
This is basically the way I play VR sometimes, though with a different app called iVRy and another one called Driver4VR, and I basically use two mouses as my controllers or just a single Dualshock 4 (PS4 controller) as a one-handed 3 DOF controller. It's not ideal at all, but considering VR is super expensive where im at, i'd rather have this over nothing lol
ive been trying to get my ps4 controller to work with iVRy but it wont work, do I use Driver4VR for that? The thing is id rather not spend money on that is there an alternative
This would be a good experience with something like a Google Daydream View. I have one and it's actually comfortable, the stock facial interface is very soft. Then add Driver4VR, Trinus Daydream, an Xbox Kinect, and some Wii remotes/PS moves and you have a decent PCVR experience. Or use Vive trackers, base stations. You can even use the Daydream controller with Trinus Daydream/VRidge as a 3DOF controller.
Before I got a quest 2, I was using my iPhone 5 and a driver called iVRy for steamvr with no controllers or 6dof and it went black and white after a few minutes 😎
I think the best way to do this with it actually being worth it and not being a 100 dollars more expensive then the quest would be to use 6dof tracking (if riftcat has the option) by using the camera in something like iVRy and in the settings to make the hertz higher if possible, then using joycons or other methods as controllers.
I have actually been trying to make a headset using a Raspberry Pi for a while now, without any luck. does anybody know what to change in the config file to make the pi compatible with the screen?
This is great for racing or flight sim if u want to try and just look around no 6 DOF of course, u dont need controllers or anything for that. did it years ago.
We've gone full circle, from trying to play VR without a expensive headset because it didn't exist, to the quest existing and trying to play PC on it, then all the way around to trying to play VR without a headset, just now the quest exists while doing that
back then I just bought Leap motion Camera Strap in front of headset and riftcat and premium VR Headset shell and all under 150$ not including the phone Thats my cheapest setup back in 2018-19?
If you sit down or kinda sit up all you need is driver 4vr and riftcat but since I got my oculus 2 days go this premium account is kinda a waist for me
Just to put this out there I have managed to get steamvr to work on a 15-year-old computer the only issue is that my quest to kept disconnecting but I'm curious if you can get it to work.
The biggest problem i have with this kind of setup is 1080p phone and not enough zoom setting for my application (fov for simracing) And the heat is pretty bad
i don’t know if you know how to fix this but when i connect my htc trackers for full body (off topic of the video btw) it always says that there’s to much controllers connect and won’t let me connect the third one on steamvr
Hmm , you could buy a bit more expensive Cardboard with 80-100 fov (plenty of that stuff everywhere) , this Vrbox is the worst shizzz on the market . Experience with good phone should be much much better. Still some nice DIY job bro ;-) Cheers !
Would this potentially work well with an old daydream headset and like a newer pixel? I feel like with higher end parts this potentially could work really well
I have a question is the Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 VR Ready Gaming Laptop, 14" 144Hz Full HD IPS Display, 8 Cores AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS,NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060, Moonlight White-Tikbot Accessories (16GB RAM |1TB PCIe SSD) okay for pcvr
Hello, if I have base stations and index controllers, how can I connect them to the phone, because I used the Irun program where I can use the phone as a headset, but is it possible to connect it to the base stations and controllers, I would be grateful for help, because my headset was Damn it for the 3rd time and I've had enough.
I'm currently using my phone and my joycons for vr and it's been a whole lotta fun with my cheap and stuttery 20fps phone as well as having emulated forward and backwards movements for the joycons but today i just bought a quest 2 and it's really cool seeing you showcase this as one last goodbye with uhh maybe just a bit pricer of my bootleg setup but it's still nice
If you just want to check out SteamVR and don't have a Quest, I would say this is a nice method to do so, you don't need the base stations or controllers, it works without them. But, if you want 6-DOF we can get creative! What are your craziest ways of playing VR?
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Mate keep up the great vids. You are one of the best vr youtubers.
I 3D printed my own headset bought some lenses, and use riftcat; for controller i use nintendo wiimotes (Driver4VR); and sometimes fullbody tracking with a camera.
About ARCore positional tracking, somebody already made this (kind of), but doesn't work that good, and does crash after a couple of minutes of use. The app is called "VRidgeHeadTracking", and is available Google Play store.
There are also some other people that tried using a phone's accelometer, and send that data to opentrack. That one is called "Head Tracker for OpenTrack", also available on Google Play store.
I'm not too sure but it sounds like you can do this with a used oculus go especially now that the architecture has been unlocked for it. Pretty great if you just have one laying around.
Before I had my Quest I was playing VR by streaming Steam VR to my phone, I had 4 PS3 cameras taped to each corner of my ceiling and I used PS Move controllers for my hands and 6DOF head tracking. It was enough to get me to experience all vive games back in 2017.
There was a whole entire channel dedicated for this VR setup back in the day but has since become inactive. Look up Daley Tech, he was a huge supporter of the PS Move Service for Steam VR community. I was actually the one to design the icons for cameras and controllers for Steam VR in PS Move Service, it was a small contribution but I'm glad to have helped the VR community when it was most inaccessible.
what i dont get is why 'gaming' smartphone companies dont capitalise on this. they could design a high quality, comfortable headset that would complement the specific phone well kinda like an upgraded gear vr. they could use their own solution for streaming from pc or use other solutions such as amd link or riftcat. basically a n oculus quest that doubles as your smartphone. i feel like 'gaming' phones could be so much more than whatever tf kind of cashgrab they are now. they could at least have a slide out gamepad like the old playstation phone...
i mean amd have such feature in adrenaline driver, is it that good ? apparently it is, i tried, and i say its hot garbage compared, just get ALVR or virtual desktop
well the gear vr is the best mobile vr you can get with the downside of being discontinued and only compatible with certain samsung phones.
Absolutely right. Someone could make a well built app and use the lidar sensors on phones for some form of tracking to make VR cheaper! It's doable.
@@scorkmcthey're gonna make a newer and way better series in 2024
it's too niche, I don't see myself buying a phone yet alone a gaming phone just to use it for VR
Cardboard vr enclosures seem to have a bad habit of being designed for very low nose bridges.
Index controllers and two base stations is 577 usd, from Valve, and they're always sold out.
This was an interesting experiment, though.
Edit: I actually played through the entirety of Psychonauts Rhombus of Ruin using this method, minus the 6dof and controllers. I just used my normal wired game controller. I switched between trinus and rift cat. At some points in the game the game expects you to move your head forward to look at things, which you obviously can't do if you only have 3dof, but one of the programs (I think maybe it was trinus?) had the option to move your head location forward and I was able to continue the game. It was incredibly ghetto.
I have owned every iteration of the gear VR and seen its evolution go from gear VR innovator to the quest 2. If you look closely at the architecture of the quest you'll see that it's built right on top of the gear vr's infrastructure.
Thanks for making this video and other videos like it. You're one of the few larger VR creators that features weird janky diy vr set ups. While not the best way to experience VR it's definitely the cheapest if you put in the effort and I think it's super important that people show VR doesn't have to be prohibitively expesive without relinquishing control to our corprate overloards. Not to mention I think the people working in and making stuff for the hacker side of vr deserve more credit and exposure for all the cool stuff they do cause this is essentially the roots of vr as we know it today.
I’m gonna try to run steam vr on the steam deck when ever “after q2” is 😂
Exactly my first thoughts when I seen the specs for the steam deck
I can say the one experiment I did try out is with Leap Motion. When you have the hands in the front, it works fantastic with tracking. Once out of the area, it doesn't work. It it has a wider rance, that would be cool and if there is a USB Transceiver you can hook it up to, that would work awesome.
I've done the Move/VRidge/Samsung Galaxy S7/Galaxy VR headset as my first and I agree, you do get motion sickness from it. This was before I got the Rift and Rift S
Making a series based on making something cheaper than the quest 2 is such a good idea! Please do so!
I use VR with a phone headset, and an app called Ivry which imo works way better than riftcat, plus it allows wired connections. You can also connect joycons with an app called driver4vr, and you can reset the controller position if the tracking gets messed up.
This is actually awesome. When phones come out with 5k screens, you can have a better screen than the quest 2
I’m used to “cheap pcvr without a pc”
How about, without a VR Headset?
@@TheMysticle 🤔
@@TheMysticle You should try VR without a headset. Using DRIVER4VR I used to play like this I had another thing open of my webcam tracking my face so I could move in VR and I used WII Remotes as my controllers. Or you can use nintendo switch controllers.
@@TheMysticle Beat Saber Kinect edition
I did something kinda similar a few months ago, I had an old Gear VR headset and my Galaxy S22 fit nicely in it so I gave it a go with VRidge e playing Star Wars Squadrons with my phone paired to a Bluetooth game controller and it worked! Jank as heck but it worked. Looked pretty good too.
Me: Gets excited
Mysticle: 4-5 Tundra trackers and 2 hand controllers
Me: Cries in hangmans knoose
Sometimes "because I can" is enough. Even if you don't enjoy the results, pushing limits and trying new things drives the industry forward. PCVR is still my preferred way to play, so any attention to it is welcome.
YES please make a series trying to make a headset cheaper than Quest 2
Idea. A open source %100 modular vr headset. Easy to disassemble and change parts. Half the weight in the back of the headset (battery/possessing hardware) with a thin light front (just the screens and lenses) with options like have the main hardware separately as a pack that you can wear as a backpack (if its a large unit) or in your pocket for a smaller less capable pod. All parts should be available and plans and software is free. What do you think?
That would be absolutely rad
I’m glad someone else had this idea I’ve had three VR headsets and all of them are wired and I wanted to try something that was wireless and this is the first thing that came to mind
Do this with Gear VR with a phone that fits, a cable that could hopefully connect to the phone, a gaming PC, and you're finished. You heard me? YOU'RE F***ING FINISHED💯💯💯💯💯💯
I’m a new sub nice to be here with you and your community
This is how I got into VR in the first place - Kinect, phone with a broken digitizer, Dirver4VR. Eventually upgraded to proper VR, but it gave me access to experience Elite:Dangerous in VR, and it worked and it got me invested, which was the point of the experiment!
I'd certainly not start with anything like base stations though... bare minimum and only buy stuff which can later be used for something else. For me, a Kinectv2 made sense to get as it gives you access to cheap FBT down the line, and they can be found for next to nothing on ebay, with some hunting.
jankass smartphone vr lives on
this reminded me of when I used iVRY and switch cons for about a week, now im sitting here with a pimax artisan and full body.
I used to use Riftcat before I got my Quest 2 and it was actually an ok experience, although I didn't have 6DoF at all and I needed to use an Xbox controller for most games lol
I tried to do that with my gear vr but i gave up then i got a quest 2 in 2020
About the 5ghz wifi, it happened to a old phone I have. I had to change some setting on the router, I think it was the channel, and it worked.
Please be my friend I've been watching your videos for a year now and I'm not familiar how to use discord. I have been on root enthusiast for 10 years and doing stuff like these experiments is my absolute favorite. I know you don't know this but I tried to even recommend you for a job with meta not that long ago. Many connections at that company. DM me somehow if you are interested. You're one of the coolest guys on UA-cam you got that dork swagger and you are obviously naturally gifted. Europeans are some of the most authentic and kindest people. You never make clickbait to get people to watch your videos. You're my favorite VR content creator. Europe is so much more interested in VR than America. Hope we can be friends
0:37 What do u mean "no longer" ?
What about using SlimeVR to track your head? It's an even cheaper option... As far as I Know you could also atach them to some bluetooth controlers to emulate the vive controllers (?.
Ultra cheap VR
The phone man:
-phone as headset
-phones as ankle trackers
-phones as knees
-phone as waist tracker
-phone as chest tracker
-phones on elbows
-phones as controllers
sounds like a plan
now this is a unique headset
I might prefer to try this. Headsets can get expensive but phones are cheap. I'm gonna see if I can use one of my vive trackers for the head.
I love experiments like this. You did not, however cover one of the best parts of vridge with this setup. You can stream any PC game to the mobile headset and just have it in 3dof mode with an xbox controller (The headset just overwrites the right stick/mouse head movement). Some games work perfectly fine this way (Star Wars Squadrons type flight sims, any first person shooter or adventure like CSGO, skyrim, or vermintide 2. Skyrim VR is janky, and you might be better off playing regular skyrim like this.) This is something you usually cannot do with a 6dof headset, making this more versatile than getting a quest2. At least with this setup when you get a new phone, you also get a new headset, unlike the unfortunate souls still playing with a gen 1 HTC vive or original quest.
It is not as immersive, without a katwalk C, Vario, perfect hand tracking and a haptic suit, there's always something to break the immersion anyway, so this still seems like a viable way to explore open worlds to me.
I still have my Samsung Galaxy S8+ and use it for Netflix and a few simple games. It would be fun if I could get an app that would use the camera to do room tracking to prevent drift while using the gyros for the main tracking, and then supported USB-C to function as a wired headset for my PC.
I always thought this was possible. So glad you did it
I started my steam vr journey with an s7 with gear VR and nolo vr. It was mind blowing at the time
I will NEVER do this, but this great to know! Good content my dude! Food for my brain
this reminds me of the 2 years where i used a kinect sensor my phone and 2 wiimotes for streaming beat saber fullbody
Should try with moonlight on vridge. I will say the trackers dont update as frequently as a headset so that might be why you were getting sick
I wouldn't mind seeing a video on the PS Move 6DoF phone VR.
It was one of my earliest 6DoF VR experiences as well, and though it was jank, it did work. My own setup was with two PSMoves, a table tennis ball with an LED crammed in, and three PS3 Eyes painstakingly taped up in the corners, and it barely worked but it was satisfying that I made it function at all.
I'm curious if the software behind it's improved enough to be remotely viable now.
you can use 3 trackers as controllers too 1 for head 2 for hands and u can also use hand tracking with driver 4 vr and head tracking so yeah as long as you have a good camera and a mild patience you can get it to work without trackers
I have been using my old Samsung s6 edge + a gear vr headset + virtual desktop + a kinect, and it totally works.. I mean, not well but it works xD
to play vr, to this day, i use a kinect, and a phone, it sucks but its my only option and i’m saving up A LOT for a quest 2
you see, when you have terrible internet, but need that JUICY wireless vr, you have to think of some creative ways to get it to work. The best way i've done it is really rediculous. I have both my quest 2 and laptop connected to my phone's 5g 5ghz hotspot, and then connect my phone to my pc's 5ghz hotspot, practically tethering them directly to each other for little to no latency and great performance with virtual desktop. For reference, I have 6Mbit/s internet or around 500KB/s download speeds.
Friend: do you have quest or valve
Me: nah I have a phone inside a cheap phone vr case
there is iVRy which uses ARCore and its about 5 to 10 euro and support psvr and other devices, there is a demo but after 5 to 10 minutes it will go black and white
If you already have a steamvr setup and you'd want local multiplayer (in the same play space) I could actually see an use case for this. You'd obviously need a better headset (e.g googles daydream view is at least somewhat comfortable in my opinion) but I can't think of any game that has local multiplayer like that, neither do I know if steamvr even supports multiple headsets at the same time. Also you'd still need an additional pair of controllers.
My opinion on the matter:
Perceived resolution doesn't only have to do with panel resolution. Contrast and color depth play a huge role on it...
When you have a smartphone with an OLED panel, you basically get a way better panel when compared to a quest 2...
Now when it comes to the rest of the headset, what would this video be like if you have found a better headset. Better lenses, better ergonomics... What if somehow you have found one with comparable FOV and lens quality to the quest 2? O_O
What then? Especially with the 4K OLED phone you were using, you should have a better visual experience.
While I do believe that full VR tracking with a smartphone is a bit overkill, I think that VR smartphone headset with the addition of a Bluetooth gamepad is a nice and chill option to enjoy many games...
I agree, it's cool. Would be nice to have a setup where the VR headset is just the "display" wnd our phones would do all the processing. Thinking like LapDock or or NexDock for Samsung Dex, but for VR. Phone would need cooling though but I am pretty sure the new Sd 8 Gen 1 12Gb could handle more than the XR2. 🤷🏽♂️
Also we could upgrade our VR headsets internals... But for that we need better displays, that's worth keeping for 5 years.
ALVR supports ARCore. Had a play with it before I got my first PC VR headset years ago.
This is basically the way I play VR sometimes, though with a different app called iVRy and another one called Driver4VR, and I basically use two mouses as my controllers or just a single Dualshock 4 (PS4 controller) as a one-handed 3 DOF controller. It's not ideal at all, but considering VR is super expensive where im at, i'd rather have this over nothing lol
ive been trying to get my ps4 controller to work with iVRy but it wont work, do I use Driver4VR for that? The thing is id rather not spend money on that is there an alternative
This would be a good experience with something like a Google Daydream View. I have one and it's actually comfortable, the stock facial interface is very soft. Then add Driver4VR, Trinus Daydream, an Xbox Kinect, and some Wii remotes/PS moves and you have a decent PCVR experience. Or use Vive trackers, base stations. You can even use the Daydream controller with Trinus Daydream/VRidge as a 3DOF controller.
Yes series why everyone will watch
Before I got a quest 2, I was using my iPhone 5 and a driver called iVRy for steamvr with no controllers or 6dof and it went black and white after a few minutes 😎
Btw you can add motion and hand tracking.
I am impressed., this is actually really cool
I think the best way to do this with it actually being worth it and not being a 100 dollars more expensive then the quest would be to use 6dof tracking (if riftcat has the option) by using the camera in something like iVRy and in the settings to make the hertz higher if possible, then using joycons or other methods as controllers.
I have actually been trying to make a headset using a Raspberry Pi for a while now, without any luck. does anybody know what to change in the config file to make the pi compatible with the screen?
This is good enough for "educational" content. :)
Would this also work with the Oculus Go? Sideload the app and do the same approach for the tracking.
Would be interesting to see
Actually, absolutely, I think you just had one of the best ideas, Now to get my hands on an Oculus Go....
@@TheMysticle yeah… one of the worst headsets
or you could buy virtual desktop on the oculus go and play pcvr with it
@@ItsEv yea
All we need is a vr headset that could hook your monitor to ur head
This is great for racing or flight sim if u want to try and just look around no 6 DOF of course, u dont need controllers or anything for that. did it years ago.
I used to do something similar to this wayyy back in 2016 lol
We've gone full circle, from trying to play VR without a expensive headset because it didn't exist, to the quest existing and trying to play PC on it, then all the way around to trying to play VR without a headset, just now the quest exists while doing that
What about using a slime tracker as a headset position estimator. You could put and extra phone on the back of the headset with owotrack. thoughts?
before i had a quest i used to do this but i used wiimotes for controllers using driver4vr
One question, how do you connect the controllers with riftcat and what controllers are good
Welcome back to "how far can we push pcvr without pcvr"
back then I just bought Leap motion Camera Strap in front of headset and riftcat and premium VR Headset shell and all under 150$ not including the phone Thats my cheapest setup back in 2018-19?
Great work! It's alright for hacking, though it's heavier, lower resolution and more time consuming.
Diy vr is fun recently i tried getting the Lgvr360 and nolo working with steam vr with openhmd but couldn't get it compiled for windows
I have to use a PSVR as my PCVR ALONG SIDE Switch controllers. Yep, I am really crazy.
I wonder if I could track the quest 2 with a vive tracker and skip the play space callibration altogether🤔
As u said this does work but it kinda sucks, but imagine that one dood trying to use nolo trackers with this set up
If you sit down or kinda sit up all you need is driver 4vr and riftcat but since I got my oculus 2 days go this premium account is kinda a waist for me
My 3rd world country ass can't even afford vr trackers and controllers though 💀
What about an Xbox 360 Kinect? It worked fine. I played rec room using hand tracking and an Xbox controller, it wasn’t good but it was cheap 6DOF
Next put vive trackers on wiimotes.
Could you use this with a vive or something and make something similar to a wireless adapter with just your phone?
Why you don't use Owo Tracker in the phone for the head tracking?
Do it for 2024, I have an Iphone 15 and I wanna test this one out
This is big brain
This is a great video
I used to run vr on 2 led balls on wii controllers and one led ball on my phone vr headset total 50€
Just to put this out there I have managed to get steamvr to work on a 15-year-old computer the only issue is that my quest to kept disconnecting but I'm curious if you can get it to work.
maybe positional tracking could be make to work on a phone using gps data
Would you happen to know how I can get my Samsung Gear VR to work with the new S20 phones? So disappointing that Oculus/Meta discontinued support.
Do you have any special characters in your 5G wifi SSID? Some devices are unable to connect/detect wifi if there are.
Cool
Would there be a way to use nintendo switch controllers?
You need driver4vr
The biggest problem i have with this kind of setup is 1080p phone and not enough zoom setting for my application (fov for simracing)
And the heat is pretty bad
i don’t know if you know how to fix this but when i connect my htc trackers for full body (off topic of the video btw) it always says that there’s to much controllers connect and won’t let me connect the third one on steamvr
i use a VR BOX with Switch Controllers and a Iphone as a tracker with bluetooth and wifi
I wanna see danis milk box vr with 6dof
Hmm , you could buy a bit more expensive Cardboard with 80-100 fov (plenty of that stuff everywhere) , this Vrbox is the worst shizzz on the market . Experience with good phone should be much much better. Still some nice DIY job bro ;-) Cheers !
Would this potentially work well with an old daydream headset and like a newer pixel? I feel like with higher end parts this potentially could work really well
"ding my bell" 😭💀
how you connected the valve index controllers pls make tutorial
I have a question is the Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 VR Ready Gaming Laptop, 14" 144Hz Full HD IPS Display, 8 Cores AMD Ryzen 9 5900HS,NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060, Moonlight White-Tikbot Accessories (16GB RAM |1TB PCIe SSD) okay for pcvr
Hello, if I have base stations and index controllers, how can I connect them to the phone, because I used the Irun program where I can use the phone as a headset, but is it possible to connect it to the base stations and controllers, I would be grateful for help, because my headset was Damn it for the 3rd time and I've had enough.
but what about AR exprince they work well on an iphone soo maybe?
I'm currently using my phone and my joycons for vr and it's been a whole lotta fun with my cheap and stuttery 20fps phone as well as having emulated forward and backwards movements for the joycons
but today i just bought a quest 2 and it's really cool seeing you showcase this as one last goodbye with uhh
maybe just a bit pricer of my bootleg setup but it's still nice
Why joycons
@@supergamer1 i get 3dof movement plus enough buttons on a small and light controller and also because i have no other options