Screaming Simplified. False Cord or Fry Scream? (What Matters & What Doesn't) How to FEEL Screaming
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2020
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If babies don't overthink their screams, why should anyone else? Let's get away from terms, definitions and focus on FEEL and what's actually going on in our own throats :) There's a lot that can be learned by unlearning previous ways of looking at things and embracing a new perspective, and in this case, your vocal health may be able to drastically improve... Even while adding some good aggression to your own voice!
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Maybe that's not an appropriate comment section but I wanted to say I can't believe how much your first minisong in the course ("Find...") have done to my voice. It finally opened up in the mix region (it sounded like I had a throat condition or something, horseness before) and I can feel it being opened. I still have to remind myself that feeling during singing a song that has low and high parts in it. I'm interested in screaming too, but man...to hit the high notes clean, loud and comfortable - now that's a thing :) Thank you very much Chris! You're great, man! Cheers from Poland.
YES YES YES!! Thanks so much for sharing!!! :)
that breakthrough is very exciting, screaming can come pretty quickly after you have that down. keep at it dude
Is that in the free course?
@@sufferfromglory1532 IT's in "Discover your voice" pack. I highly recommend .
My singing live at gigs feels so much more comfortable and fun. It's improved so much, thanks Chris. Your a gift to the vocal world !
"It creates a wonderful SOOOOOUUUUUNNNNNNNND"
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Looooool
😂
I died when he did that
Haha I love this guy 😂
10:52 (paraphrasing) "the false chords are the ones that you use to hold your breath under water" might be one of the best ways to teach someone how to develop a mind muscle connection with their false chords. Huge lightbulb moment for me when you said that.
Glad you got an AH HA moment!
This guy is legit one of the best teachers on UA-cam. Tackling not only how to do something, but WHY to do it that way, what this ACCOMPLISHES, how it should FEEL and how to recognize your own mistakes and overcome them. Take notes folks.
Thanks so much! I’m so very glad you’re seeing the value in what I’m doing!!! Spread the word :)
4:20 He screamed at the screen so hard that It just went unconsicous.
BigFattyBoi it was at 4:20 so yeah ... 😂😂😂haha
The poor screen😂😂😂
I went to a throat doctor once when I had thrush and couldn't scream. The doctor was so interested when I told him what I do. He told me there was no damage, shook his perception of metal music.
“...it creates that wonderful SOOOUUUUND” 4:18 lmao
Clicked this timestamp before watching the video and thought tourettes might be at play, caught me way off guard lol.
We love you Chris!!!!
can confirm!
"Singing is not an academic thing, it's an experiencial thing"
This statement is really interesting. I'm currently doing a PhD on the voice in general, and as a matter of fact, a lot of researchers are also singing teacher, and one of the main question is, how to associate this "experiencial" thing as you say, how to associate the feelings with parameters that we can quantify. When you play with your vocal break, what is actually happening in detail? Why is there a break there? How do singers train to "get rid" of that break, or just to make it softer?
Concerning the false cords (by the way, the trend nowadays is to say "vocal folds" more than "vocal cords", because we realize now that these are much more like folds or membranes, than like cords or strings), there is actually not so much research about it, so we don't really know that much. Only a few people are willing to investigate this kind of singing with actual research/scientific thinking. If you would be willing to participate in research studies, I'm quite sure some people in the US would be very interested to work with you.
Also, "the vocal cords themselves don't actually do much" is not necessarily true. If you listen to excised larynges singing (no mouth, no body, just the larynx and the vocal folds) they can be pretty loud, trust me on this. However it is true that the oral and nasal cavities modify the source sound (created by the vocal folds), and amplify certain frequencies while attenuating others. It's closer to a filter, more than to an actual amplifier.
After watching the video, I agree that the feel is important, especially to sing "safely" and not damage anything. But once again, don't forget that some people are actually trying to find out why everything is like this. If we are able to identify clearly what is happening and why it makes (or not) some damage, then we can work on finding ways to prevent the damage and make it easier to understand, or "feel". Maybe :)
I agree completely... BUT you can read and assign words to stuff all day long. I read so many books on singing and they didn't do a thing for my actual singing UNTIL I actually experienced different things about my body and my voice. THEN the terms and definitions were helpful (sort of) really it was more just enlightening, but didn't add anything to my voice. Its like so many things: "A Dorian scale is a minor scale with a natural 6th" ...HUH?? What does it sound like, how can I trigger emotional connection with it? What artists use this. Now, once you've experienced the scale, the definition actually makes you go "on yeah... that's cool" but it doesn't help you GET THERE. :)
How cool is to have such an interest-ed/ing and keen community! Thanks again Chris :-)
The thing is before academics someone had to experiment with this stuff to get the theory, there would be no vocal theory had noone been doing crazy noises in their research basement lol at least i think there wouldnt be a way to get there without it, teaching based on empirical testing is allways better in almost every craft i think, it also allows for better theorical understanding too
@hugo lehoux what do you think of the complete vocal institute approach to vocal research? Not their singing theory, more about their research methodology.
@@ilBaccello I'm really not too familiar with their research methodology. Keep in mind that I am just a PhD student and I still have an immense amount of things to learn about the voice.
Allan and David, also keep in mind that I am not talking about music theory here, I'm not even really talking about music in this sense.
Of course people had to try some stuff at the beginning, of course people made random weird sounds in their basement. Empirical testing is definitely a way, if not THE way, for crafts and arts. The thing is that, science and research aim at trying to explain things in ways that we can predict and replicate phenomena. A very good example is sound synthesis, which is applied to musical instruments and speech (including singing of course). We would never be able to synthesize musical instruments and voice without a proper understanding of how it works in the physical/physiological sense.
As a student working in research, I am very curious and I would like to learn more, to understand more how the voice works, and I would like to deeply understand why some things happen, why the vocal break is there, why you can make a scream out of it (which, to my guessing, can be mathematically related to very complex nonlinear stuff - just guessing here of course, I'm no expert), and how to synthetize this scream.
An other thing, beside sound synthesis, is the need to clear out misconceptions. We believed for a long time that the vocal folds were actually strings like guitar strings, which was proved to be wrong (but yeah, it is a not so bad approximation in simple models). Also, there has been recently (last half century I would) a lot of research about voice registers (chest/head voice), and some people show evidence that this register division can be related to LARYNGEAL differences, which means that even though we FEEL the resonance is at different places, the main thing that changes is the way the vocal folds vibrate. And that, to me, even though it's still preliminary research and 'just' a theory, is very interesting to me.
Of course, this does not change the fact that one of the main tool to learn how to sing is the FEELING, I agree with that. I have recently seen a presentation by Eleonora Bruni (Italian vocal coach) who uses laryngoscopy as a tool for teaching screaming and generally 'distorded' singing. So she uses this tool so that the students are able to visualize when their vocal folds are closed/open, and she basically says that you should keep your vocal folds open and lax when growling and screaming, as the sound mostly comes from the false cords. The point here is to help student learn faster and in a safer way, regarding vocal health and vocal folds damaging.
So once again, relying on the feeling is a very good way to play it safe, totally agree with that. But, people will always seek to deeply understand what's happening, and this understanding might actually be of help for vocal pedagogy, or just for new vocal effects, who knows? :)
I learned more from you in 15 minutes in your mixed voice video than I did in 100 videos from the "patently false" guy :) You're the only guy on youtube that doesn't bs about singing and explains things so that us regular folk can understand :) Thank you Chris you're awesome.
You know I was telling my son 9 the other day that I don't understand how he still has a voice. All. He. Does. Is. Scream. 24/7. Since the day he was born. I scream at him a good 98% less than he does (at him to stop screaming) in a day than he does in 10 minutes. I will be in pain and will lose my voice. He however never has lost his voice. I asked him just the other day if it ever hurts when he screams. He said it doesn't. I asked how he activates his voice when he Screams. He said "I don't know. I don't think about it I just do it." His 7 year old sister screams just as much as he does. Her sound is very evident as to how she's doing it and which register (she's a vocal fry screamer yall). I can see why she still has a voice. And she has never thought about how she does it. She just does it.
It's frustrating that I'm having to learn how to use my vocals for yelling, screaming, distortion, and grit much less singing alone in a healthy way because of technicalities on what the muscles are and do taking me away from what felt good and natural to me. I erased what MY physiology taught me and am having to relearn it. I hope my two screaming monsters will never have to go through this.
FYI, to help with the reflux, at least temporarily, and in a non harmful way to your body, get some ginger mints or candies. As I have the same issue.
Also avoid ANY type of true mint. As mint relaxes the lower sphincter (esophagus) to let acid through (les), as does caffeine.
"When we hold air underwater..."
AND THEN I GOT AN INSIGHT
The day this guy starts making full length music, people are gona quit!!
Many singers in metal and hardcore appear to safely make a different quality of scream, a breathier scream, regardless of the semantics with what we want to call it. It does sound a very different quality to the screams you've shown here and in other videos. Any idea on how to do those?
Hi dude, my dream is to become the next Chester Bennington because he's been my Hero since I was a kid, and thanks to your videos, I think I can reach that goal, at least just becoming an average singer to share the feelings I put in my lyrics. thank you so much from the bottom of my heart, this videos aren't just awesome, they're fun to watch and since I'm a little distracted, your way to teach... It helps a lot.Thanks.
@Allan Franzner thanks dude, appreciate
Rock on and don't ever give up. Cheers!
@@ReclaimerSnake dont be the next, be the First you
@@YoO161 working on that too, thx! 💛
I love Chester! Cough Cough my pfp
I'm from México and I've been a metal fan practically all my life, and here there aren't many teachers who have experience or even the willing to investigate or learn with you, and of course there are tons of spanish speaking channels where they "teach you how to sing like your favorite artist" which most of them are from dudes as lost as you, in addition, I don't have the money to purchase The Sen of Screaming, and just when I was about to give up I found your videos.
Thanks to you man, I'm convinced that even if I don't become an artist I want to learn because it makes me happy.
Keep being passionate, hope you return here soon.
As an amateur that's done vocals (and later learned to sing, up to a degree ;)) I agree. I've always hated the dichotomy of either false chord or fry scream because... well... fry scream is a bit of a misnomer to start with and honestly with extreme vocals it seems you'll almost *always* be using your false chords up to some degree. At least with screams and growls from genres like death metal/deathcore etc. However, if you change where most compression comes from, the entire sound and feel completely changes. So you can have an open ''false chord dominant'' scream so to say, but most of the super-compressed modern vocals that are sometimes mis-identified as ''fry'' (due to the highly compressed, almost fire-crackling type distortion) use the false chords in a big way. At least they seem to from what I've analyzed and seen (throat cameras).
And honestly, 99% of people shoud absolutely refrain (as should I) from identifying how people make certain sounds. Will Ramos' throat-cam session that's blown up on youtube recently proves that. He thought he went from kargyraa (arytenoid/false chord vibrations?) to screams, but no... he did that transition and it went from kargyraa to a completely contorted larynx the second he started doing actual extreme vocals. A bizarre sight for sure and it got a lot of people thinking.
This is excellent! Man this is exactly the kind of thing the world of harsh vocals needs!
Just wanted to thank you along with everyone else here, your lessons are frickin amazing and I feel like your channel is on the verge of exploding. What a joy!
You're amazing sir. I'm experiencing a huge improvement in my vocals thanks to your videos. 🙂
The statement about everything becoming super academic is so true. I've been into vocals for 3 years and I still feel like I haven't learnt anything primarily because I've been academic with vocals. This video is so apt and something that took me all this while to realise. It's also something that very few coaches talk about. Chris, you're amazing. Lots of love for you and your content. ❤️
Had you told me 4 months ago that I would be screaming in my metal music I would’ve laughed so hard. And I did when someone tried to convince me that it’d be even cooler since female screamers aren’t as common. And here I am 😂😂😂absolutely loving this
you are my favourite vocal coach on YT
just want to say your content is top quality man
I'm glad he explained this because I learned using the fry scream from the Zen of Screaming vids. After I got to where I could project and not hurt my voice I felt my lows had more of a false chord feel to them even though I'm using almost the same technique as mids and highs.
Hi Chris! Great content as always, good tips to bear in mind when practicing distorted voice. Thanks for sharing!
Amazing content as always Chris, never been more glad to have enrolled in an online course. You're the only vocal coach on youtube that actually makes me understand what to do through video
Thanks so much! I’m glad my videos have been so helpful to you!
Thanks man! I was literally wondering about this topic today
Such an amazing video. Never has it been explained properly.
You really are a game changer Chris, thank you for all the vids!
We need more of such great videos. Singing is more feelings and sensing than defining of definitions.
Thank you!!
I've always believed you to be the best UA-cam vocal coach, and that intro breaking down the over categorization of scream techniques absolutely solidified that belief. I couldn't have phrased it better myself.
Thank you so much! I'm glad this way of looking at it resonates with you!
It's taken me a few months of practicing and trying different things to find my scream. You literally sum up my 3ish months in like 10 minutes
Hey Chris, appreciate you revisiting this stuff. the reinforcement is so good man. Actually sat down with my acoustic this morning, put it in drop D, and made some more noises. And now I'm working from home listening to Creed making noises writing code hahaha! :)
Thank you so much for keeping up explaining this. I am watching your videos again and again, trying to understand. Unfortunately I am still not there. No matter what I do, I cant get rid of tension in my throat, even when I am just singing. Screaming doesnt work at all for me. It hurts and I am losing a bit of my range instantly. Its driving me crazy. Ive been singing for 25 years, took lessons for years, read books, watch videos and still am searching for the reason, that my throat tenses up and my voice wears out quickly. Thanks to you I understand support better than ever before, I know I need to get into mixed voice when singing higher, I know I need to keep my jaw and tounge relaxed, but as soon as I am singing songs that are higher than my comfortable chestrange I tense up and and singing becomes uncomfortable. I am desperate cause basically I can sing, just not for long. When I am using only head voice I can get up to an E5 easily, but I cant use it for powerful and loud singing without tension. One other thing I also noticed: When I am just holding my breath, cutting of air wirh my false cords as you are showing it and just push up some air, without even producing a sound, my voice is raspy and fryish after that, like I just woke up. How can this be, if its only the false cords that are used to hold back the air? Sorry for the long comment, but I am exploring all this on a daily basis an am practicing everyday and just cant get my voice to work.
That false chord sound brutal. I think Chester Bennington had the false scream like "One step closer" he had a false chord (Same thing to A Place For My Head, Given Up, No More Sorrow and others.) I was going to achieve that Lost In The Echo scream from Summersonic 2013 in Japan. If you check that live version of Lost In The Echo in Summersonic 2013, That scream gives me chills and first in studio version I thought the scream was sampled.
Can't believe your channel still hasn't blown up when considering that both content and production are out of this world!
Thanks! I think 100k+ subs isn't to bad in slightly less than a years time :) ... But you can bet I'm hoping for another explosion!! Thanks for engaging in the videos!!
from all the videos that i've watched. you're the only who can scream with note choice. the rest are all gutteral single toned sounds. i think that's pretty amazing. thanks chris!
You're so welcome!
This is a new level in singing courses. I wish I could pay for a full course including a few 1-on-1 lessons, without all the hassle of my email and data being collected for "free" courses for big data and marketing purposes. You already sold me the course with these amazing videos. Now just let me pay and get the full version!
The man all the singers always needed🎉🖤👍
I learned that Singing is not academic thing but experience thing. It’s very impressed wording. ‘Mind Set’ is the all. I would like to learn for next ‘How I can keep pitch/tone’. Thank you 🙏👍
Hey dude, if you haven't already you should check out Nothing but thieves. His vocal work is something I think you'd really appreciate, I'm yet to find anyone that hasn't been blown away! Keep up the good work x
This is a great video. Thankyou for sharing this. I have been trying to work out my voice for a couple of years now. I sing many different ways with different voices. I'm trying to be as different and original as I can. My inspiration is Mike Patton from Faith No More. I really needed to see this video. Great stuff dude!!
Feel is always what I've worked off of because the vast majority of my singing abilities are self taught (with the exception of using vocal fry)
While I did make mistakes at first, they didn't really do any damage. I'm talking about the iron maiden screams which I could do up until 2019 Download Festival where I damaged my vocal chords while seeing slipknot. When it came to more aggressive vocals , I completely messed up.
But after learning that you shouldn't create the energy from you vocal chords, I experimented until I could make grit and distortion without using my vocal chords.
I later learnt that this was a false chord scream, and through more experimentation, I was able to moderate grit.
But its always boiled down to, a) does this hurt? And b) am I losing range?
And I'm happy to say that the answer to those questions is no.
I’m from Malaysia,this is extraordinary,easy to understand.
Best vocal coach ever
10:50 I wish somebody told me that along time ago. Extremely basic info that I was completely unaware of. If I ever learned that, it was never related to singing. That’s like “oh I know that feeling, got it”.
I love your videos. Great explanations. They have been really helpful during quarantine, hopefully I can come out on the other side with some great rock distortion in my voice! Thank you.
You do such a great job of explaining, my vocal coach told me about your channel. You're great =))
Love your content, always helps me feel a little more enlightened and encouraged to keep pressing forward. Would love to see a breakdown of Pete Loeffler of Chevelle. Very underated vocalist in my opinion.
Right on! Thanks!!
I,m finally getting some comprehension in drives because of you, thank you so much
Awesome!
NEW VIDEO!!! Thank you Chris!!!!
HI Chris! A tutorial or just breakdown of Raised fist singer would be awesome!
I have been trying your techniques for 20 days now and it has really given results. Thank you!
Thanks for your content my man. I learn a lot from you
I would be veeeery interested in a video about how Adam Gontier is singing! Also... I really like your channel :)
Hi Chris! Thank you for all those awesome vids!
Something that I haven't seen you explicitely cover yet is the enormour diversity of screaming tones and techniques / placements / balance out there. Sam Carter (Architects) is immensely different from Ben Duerr (Shadow Of Intent), who has nothing to do with Dani Filth (Cradle Of Filth), Anders Friden (In Flames), Oli Sykes (BMTH), Winston McCall (Parkway Drive) who are all MONSTRUOUS vocalists.
While the vocal break / fry thing you teach might be perfectly suited to some of those, my feeling is that it does not explain it all. I don't feel like you could even go to Ben Duerr's land with that, for instance, or even earlier in BMTH's history. It won't allow to reach exactly the Can You Feel My Heart screamier tone for instance, let alone Pray For Plagues.
Your content is sure thing amazing, and your input always invaluable, and I guess that's why we're so many so eager to know how you would approach certain things. Thanks for all this crazy free content.
Thanks for this feedback! I really appreciate it!
Well Chris always bringing out nice videos my I was surprised by this video and i love it
screaming videos with Chris are the best 👌
Example with holding breath is fantastic, for someone trying to get a feel on where the damn false cords are this was a gold nugget of info.
i've found that actually doing metal vocals is much more resonant than tonal. simply practicing the act of using quite diaphragm oriented vocal fry daily is going to develop the feel you want. squeezing (compressing) is a really bad idea tho.
Love your videos bro, you explain things so well.
But I would love to see a breakdown of Ronnie Radkes singing.
Hey man your videos have really helped me a lot!
So glad to hear that! :)
Love your perspective on this!
Thanks!
Clarifies alot! Thank you!
Hey what's up Chris I love your channel so much it's helping me a lot! I also suffer from acid reflux because I inhaled iron dust when I worked in the steel mill I am in the USAF right now but ya man I love your videoes and I am learning a lot. It is funny sometimes to see you yodel and stuff but it's really teaching me so you are able to make me laugh and I finally subscribed brother so keep making awesome videos!
Thanks for the sub!! I plan on making LOTS more!
@@chrisliepe np brother I hope you will check mine out as well
Absolutely! The technical vocal chord explanations are interesting, but don't help me AT ALL in terms of knowing what to do
I haven't discovered the right placement for that voice distortion which uses fry yet. Always ending up coughing.
I hope there'll be more video about that. Keep up the good work!
There is! :) ua-cam.com/video/V7jqSPHxRQo/v-deo.html
Your explanation is pretty good sir,thnx for this. Would you like to do some videos on music production? It would mean a lot.
I am watching your videos for about 2 weeks now and testing and exploring my voice out daily with you. I am singing some stuff in a local cover band and I'm that typical instrumentalist guy who overvalues pitch and doesnt even listen to the words which are sung. You changed my mind, my singing approach and yesterday it all kind of "clicked" for me while i was driving in my car.
I experimented with compression and i always got tensed up a lot. But then i tried singing and some guy in front of me hit the breaks really hard, so i had to do that too, and it was so fast i forgot i was actually singing meanwhile and my body got leaned forward while I was breaking the car and i suddenly got that compressed tone i was looking for and could not find by myself. I was in complete disbelief. Wait? that was it? that is how it should feel? I'm still in shock and I cant wait to find out where this experience will take me to!
Tons of love from Germany!
Dude you're awesome haha great stuff.been a great help😊
Glad to help!
thanks a lot for this videos
Agree. These videos are really making lockdown more tolerable (maybe not for the neighbours :-) ).
haha, probably not :)
Mr. Liepe? Could I make a suggestion? I'd really love to hear your thoughts on Robert Plant and or Roger Daltrey on your "Not a Reaction" type of video. And a great video as always! Thanks!
You are the best!
Great informative video thank you for this. Came across your channel through someone referencing it on /screaming on Reddit. I can't sing at all, but always have been into screaming so was thinking of starting to learn how to scream.
Welcome!! If you want to develop your screaming, learn to sing first :). The best screamers have great singing voices and build on that foundation (some exceptions but not many)
@@chrisliepe thanks for the feedback, actually just watching your other videos about how to scream without notes / add distortion. And will check out the free vocal course you mentioned to get me a foot in the door :)
Brilliant!
Never a dull moment on your channel!
I've personally found that if I hold back air from the support area, as opposed to using false folds to hold back air, I can get into a mixed voice at a very low volume and then gradually let the false folds take over as volume increases. At low volume, it's like I'm regulating air flow from below the naval as opposed to pushing into the false folds and utilizing closure to regulate air flow. It's almost even more effortless than falsetto...Does this make sense or am I going down a bad road?
3:53 love that new soad song!
ALL YOUR VIDEOS ARE GREAT
I SHARE THEM WITH EVERYONE I KNOW THAT WANTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT SINGING
THIS IS GREAT
I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WAYS BY WHICH INDIVIDUALS MAKE OUR COLLECTIVE EXISTENCE JUST BETTER
THIS IS GOOD
Dude, youre the best
Literally had this thought one video before this
You gotta love him 2:54 :D
Btw, awesome video - again!
Was strolling thru your videos again (new knowledge fresh perspectives :) ) Was that a Ken Easter egg i found in there!? haha Stay safe man \m/ :D
Yes :)
Do you even know how great you are?
Do a video about vocal damage Chris!!
Great content! I've taken your free course and watched a bunch of your videos, I'm just starting week three of your paid course. My hope is that by the end of the course i can learn to scream. Sometimes i feel like I'm close and i don't ever hurt myself but i always end up hoarse for about a half hour. Any tips for stopping that?
I always say that the the best singers make the best screamers. Those who truly understand how to FEEL their voice and their bodies are able to really get screaming dialed in correctly. Sadly, so many people try to go right to screaming and miss out on the introspection and discipline needed to scream without damaging their voice. My advice, is focus on solid singing fundamentals. Then LET screaming happen as you get more engaged with your body.
@@chrisliepe Alright! I'll keep at the course then =) I sing a lot of karaoke with my wife and its been great, I've already noticed a higher range with more control through using my support. Thanks!!
Hey Chris, I have a question that is probably obvious. I have been practicing your teachings for fry screams as well as Justin Bonitz's. I am making new discoveries every time and getting a better feel for false chord engagement, using Tarzan sounds and silly sounds to find where the grit is and all of that fun stuff. frustratingly I still notice my voice tiring out and some tightness in my neck pretty quickly, sometimes even when I'm not really projecting and just focusing on feeling out different parts of my vocal tissues. Does this tiredness and tightness mean bad technique or perhaps a result of lack of vocal warmups and hydration? I am usually decently hydrated but I do drink carbonated stuff too, and I haven't really done a whole lot of warmups since I'm just playing around with my throat. Thank you for your time.
Hey Chris! I was wondering if you could cover how to sing without accent? I've been getting much better at singing, but my accent always bothers me.
Intentional vowel placement :) Good topic for a video!!
Look into Michael poulsen from volbeat, he sings with an accent on the records but I’ve heard demos and live recordings where his accent is a lot less.
chris, could you do a video on mikael akerfeldt's technique? his screams are so damn low. would love to hear your opinion on his growls. you should definitely look into it, the vocals on opeth's demon of the fall are totally demonic
After years of watching videos on how to scream or grunt properly I finally found the man that made it very logical with excellent comparisons as to how it should feel. Thank you so much for helping me to learn to scream.
PS: the harshest screams I know come from black metal bands, could you maybe do a video on how to get such a harsh sound and if it's possible to do it like you explained?
Gotta say man, one of my fav things to do is watch your vids on my phone next to my gf in bed. Her reactions are priceless AND I learn things
Haha!! :)
cool video i want to improve my scream
Hi! When I was 17/18 years old I sang it all ... I don't know if it was a drive, false chords or fry or anything ... I shouted more than cobain and got a high score ... I was young .. I had this excellent voice where I screamed or made falsetto in turururutururu in Black from pearl jam etc ... Unfortunately it only lasted 2 years ... Then. I continued to sing but between 97 and 2000 I lost track ... I couldn't sing a single note in tone or my own songs and I gave up in 2001, today unless I go to a rock concert and scream for 2 hours until I lose my voice ... The next day, completely hoarse and almost speechless, I can already make falsetto and sing all the high notes of Chris Cornell and Eddie Vedder again including those that Eddie himself can no longer reach. My question is what happened? How can I sing everything after loosing voice on a rock concert? Thanks a lot for the help!
I've been binging your videos for a couple weeks now and its made me start to casually practice singing and screaming but I have been getting this burning sensation in my throat after some short sessions. It happens the most when I'm clean singing in the higher range of my chest region or whatever. I'm wondering if this is normal, like how your muscles burn after working them out, or if this is a serious medical issue and i've injured my vocal chords, idk if you have any videos talking about his. I know you're not a doctor but any advice would help. :) love ur videos by the way, SUPER informative.
after typing out this comment I got recommended your pain/discomfort video hahaha, gotta love the internet. Anyways, I think that video clarified things up as at the end of it you mention the heat sensation that I'm feeling and say that its fine. Guess i'll just rest my vocal chords until I feel better :)
Ah! Glad you found that video... it was the one I was going to recommend to you after I read your first comment. Also, we go in to HUGE detail on how to lean into 'heat' and other ways of developing stamina in this course if you're interested: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/the-aggressive-vocalist-s-master-plan-of-attack
Great videos Chris, I've learned a ton from your stuff. Do you have any tips for increasing volume when screaming? I can get a good distorted sound singing quietly, but when I try to increase volume with screaming it's tense and my throat feels like it chokes/tightens up.
oooo good question! You actually don't want to increase your volume. You want to increase your compression!! (less volume and air flow, more support)
see my vids on compression!
@@chrisliepe Awesome, thank you!
I can do a high and mid fry scream but I cannot do any sort of lower scream and it's so frustrating
Ooooo I also use a cloud lifter
My best screams are the ones when I don't think about it but when I start to think they are still good but not as good when I simply do it.
I love your tutorial and deep explanations. I have been singing since I was 12. I am now going 56 yrs old this December. I have made research before and bought a book called The Gantone system. It did help along with some experience from choir in my younger days. Thank you for your digested information. Really is singing is very physical and our instrument needs caring and analyzing anatomically.
Please check my video for Cutting Edge rock band Hawaii. Please tell me what more I need to work on. Thank you very much. APPRECIATE you.
I stumbled upon a problem while trying to learn how to do the screams (low ones by heavy sighs, "barking" and then pronouncing words, low/mid ones by constipating and then high screams a.k.a Dracula face). The thing is, after several minutes of performing those (i.e. trying to sing along songs from first 2 Asking Alexandria albums which heavily use this kind of screaming), my vocal range gets decreased and sometimes I end up getting a bit hoarse with a slight feel of burning around the uvula/soft palate. Then my normal voice gets a little more fry'ish and deeper. After that, the higher I try to go with pitch in singing parts, up to the mixed voice it gets distorted, detuned and muffled, and up the head voice it breaks lower than usual, and I end up sounding like angry beaver. Usually the next day is much better and after 1-2 days I am back to the full range. I don't want to stop practicing, but I feel like I'm doing something wrong here, since many vocalists can maintain high singing voice alongside with gutturals/pig squeals. My regular range goes from C1 up to around D5, but yet squeezed and weak as hell when reaching 5th octave. Anyway - a word of advice would be insanely helpful. I am analyzing all of Your videos (as well as guys teaching how to scream), but yet this is the thing I cannot fully grasp. Sorry for the spam, but I hoped here I am most likely to be answered :)
Thanks for reaching out here! Here are a few other of my videos that I think will help: ua-cam.com/video/LeLE4XTlTKE/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/mUin7iLTbXc/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/iJpx00zJ36A/v-deo.html - Let me know how things keep going for you!!
@@chrisliepe Oh man, I somehow missed all of these before asking...I will surely give them a watch very soon and post an update after applying Your tips, because I am in the middle of writing an 11-song album alone (yes, first album without any help, i've gone mad), and I don't want to get discouraged by the vocals that seem to be the #1 topic to improve on, and yet the least forgiving so far.
Thank You, Chris!
Chris whats your workout routine? lookin good brother!
thanks! Someday I'll do a course on it :) It's my own thing I've been doing consistently for about 20 years now... can't believe it's been that long!
We dont need to be limp all the time