Still Can't Fry Scream? Try This!
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2022
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Hope this helps. Just keep in mind that fry screaming is hard to learn, and there are fundamental skills needed to make learning this easier. If you still struggle with it, just try practicing singing and vocal projection for a few weeks, and then try again after you have better control over the laryngeal muscles. - Навчання та стиль
I accidentally did false chord while trying to fry scream and it did not hurt my throat, but when I stopped I completely forgot what I did and can't do it anymore lol
It's hard do it
mood T-T
I got it on the third try
The hybrid... nice.
You can use a low fry scream and add just enough diaphragm compression and having the right about of projection but trying to keep it voiceless at the same time will have your false cords activate and phonate similarly to your real vocal cords. To get this sound I regularly practice Tuvan throat singing and tongue and mouth placement to get the right sound I'm going for with the technique.
i can control my soft fry really well, but when i try to strongly project them my true voice tends to come through too much and the distortion mostly goes away
Maaan I wish a vid like this had been around back on the day, because this exact technique is what helped me figure out how to scream, and it's so cool that I can basically practice anywhere, while walking to or from uni in a noisy place, while driving, when I sigh, it's so versatile. I hope this video helps many, thank you so much for making it 🙏
Thats why Is started this channel. I was a teenager who sifted through hundreds of videos trying to learn how to scream. I had to figure out fry on my own. Brandon Kennedy had a video that helped me learn false cord screaming.
Yeah I’ve been trying to figure out dry screams for years and I’ve made these sounds before but I just didn’t know that it was the right direction. Know that I know I’m going to focus on practicing soft fry on my way to and from work
Dude thanks for mentioning practicing in soft fry. I've been doing this a ton and really feel like it's been beneficial to me but I wasn't sure if it would actually transfer in normal volume.
Yea soft fry helps you figure out the right positioning to produce the distortion, but in order to make it loud, you have to learn to belt, and try to enter the soft fry positioning while belting.
That little To the Hellfire in the demo :p love it! I recognized the lyrics instantly.
I could literallt fall asleep to your demonstration noises. Soothing!
You must listen to A LOT of metal lol
Lamb of God was the scream that got me years ago
Black label - LoG from Tony hawk underground 2👌🏽
After 2 years and 10's of videos. This video helped my muscles click to where i found the start. Now i just need practice.
well, I’m currently working on a full exercise program for Fry screaming. I find that a lot of people might figure out how to produce the sound but still don’t develop all the skills they need to be successful. so I’m making a straightforward program with exercises to develop those skills. Should be uploaded within a few weeks.
@@Scream-Theory that will definitely help a lot.
I always knew pretending to be a velociraptor and mimicking the grudge would come in handy some day 👍
I feel like this would also come in super handy for zombie acting :O I love ittt >:)
I think this video is unlocking it for me! I can’t do a full compression scream yet, but I’m getting that sound (in a bit of a whisper-scream) I could never hold before. This is really helping me focus on how much compression to apply and feel the control rather than just going for it.
Ive watched amd saved so many fry scream tutorials but this one just clicked for me! Thank yoh so much for your meticulous explanation of this technique!
Thank you Im glad it was able to help you. This video is pretty old (im not sure why the algorithm pushes it so hard), but I have a lot of newer fry screaming videos. I highly recommend my most recent fry screaming video where I demonstrate various exercises to make learning it easier, and develop the skills needed to eventually project it and make it sound powerful.
Dude. The first exercise was so good. It actually got me to nail the fry from nothing. One exercise I’ve been doing is alternating between exhaling and frying. So inhale, exhale, inhale, fry, repeat. I’ve also been alternating vowels, like Yo, Yee, Ya, Yo, Yee, Yu, Ya, Yip, Yaw, Yow, Yuuuiiiiiiuuuuuaaaaaa type thing. Also with R, like Ro, Ra, Rii, Rey, Ru, etc. Also my voice doesn’t hurt lol.
This video has been helpful to me , thanks!
i ve watched a view tutorials now, but this did it best for me...Im starting to feel this fry point consciously ! Thanks mate!
Hell yeah now I can false cord and fry scream! I remember just wanting to learn how to scream and now thanks to this awesome video I can dry scream now! Thanks for the amazing video dude :D
Thats great to hear. Now check out my video on how to do them both at the same time!
@@Scream-Theory Sweet will do!
Bro your video was a game changer for me thank you so much❤️❤️
Thank you so much! I'm currently learning how to scream and this video helped me a lot! Great stuff! 🤘❤️
This guy is awesome
This helped me lots!! Thanks
Pretty helpful! thanks!
Thank youuuuu! Couldn't find it properly but thank to the exercise I got the base :D
I learned the sub harmonic bass technique a while back so I’m having a hard time separating the fry from that as it’s just naturally goes back into the sub harmonic and not fry screaming
actualy helped out alot!
Holy crap I finally did it. Thank you man!
check out my most recent video for more fry screaming exercises
Thank you man
great video!!
Your tazmanian devil impression is legit mate 😮
you should hear my Muscle Man impression 😉
This is really helpful! Should you feel any sort of throat tension? I can do all this and it sounds similar but if I do it for too long my throat feels tight even though I’m breathing and pushing from my diaphragm, as well as that it sounds weak and too high on recordings even when I’m trying to make it sound low. Any advice would be amazing, thank you!!
my mom thought I had asma
Hi!! I started to scream as Chino Moreno when I was 16 years old and all went right for many years. Well, now I'm 35 and I can do the same sound but feel the erosion of my throat and sometimes even pain. Maybe it is easier to learn how to scream safely when you start from zero, but I wonder if I have to start from the beggining or there is some way to adapt my current skill to my physical actual needs. Thanks for your content!!
That's a hard question to answer, because there is many different reasons why a person can experience pain when doing vocals. If you email me and are able to give me some more information, I can help you figure it out. Screamtheoryvocalcoaching@gmail.com
Everything makes more sense now 🥺
Love the little bit of lorna shore sprinkled into the demonstration 😂 great video mate 👍
4:14 I got to this stage and tried it a third time, and successfully created the noise, I was so happy with myself and mildly shocked, because I'm 14. I can do the false cord scream but apparently if you can do a false cord, it makes it easier. I think I'm nearly there now 😅
Fun part is dickie allen of infant annihilator in a kardovox interview mentioned the "hybrid" where you are doing fry and false chord at the same time (mind blown). Then if you think of the different areas of resonance that you usually get by thinking of different syllables (ex. "ooo" or "yee"), apparently some of those different areas can resonate AT THE SAME TIME. I think that is how you get a sound like this: ua-cam.com/users/shortsUMZ1tqojC2Q
he stars out with the "ooo" but then you see his nose scrunch up a bit like people do when they get a high; I think his sinus cavity is resonating to get the "roar" sound. So many interesting techniques and it's crazy how deep it goes combining them in unique ways. You are lucky all of these videos are available today... I know back when I first started to try to learn there was nothing. You're basically at the point I am now and I'm a grown ass man! XD
Keep working on it a little every day and you will be an amazing vocalist. =)
@@naejimba thanks man!
Imma watch this some 100 times lol
I have a newer fry screaming tutorial you should check out. I also have more videos planned to help with learning fry screaming but very little time to actually make them lol
I can do like the very low Corpse Husband voice and goblin screams but not these. I'm excited to start learning!
watch my more recent fry screaming videos. They are much better. and good luck. you will get it, just have to be patient, keep practicing, and use your auditory learning
@@Scream-Theory Tyvm. I found them. I have been making instrumentals for years now it's time to put the vocals to work!
I TRIED TO GO AS LOW AS CORPSE 😭 then I tried to add tension and I just lost my voice, like, it’s not STICKING or something
Haha shit can't believe I'm typing this off my own words and fingers, this video indirectly helped me realise how it should feel like in my throat. It's such a specific unusual sensation that trial and error will be needed, the catch 33 being not knowing which is the right way and needing practice to fully develop the necessary parts to engage while not messing your throat up. But thanks so much. Really underestimated how much 'diaphragm' push is actually needed, took me a good 3 years to piece it together.
yep the biggest reason why people have trouble with fry screaming is because its the first vocal style they try to learn. if you have no experience practicing singing or even FC screaming then its just not going to make sense. You wont have adequate muscle coordination or sensory awareness of what you are doing with your vocal cords in relation to what you are trying to do.
I had a close friend walk in during your “explanation noises” fuck lmao thank you for the help
Hey I usually don't give any notice or warning in most of videos lol. Probably best to listen with headphones
Thank you for your very good video. I 'd like to see more! You are pushing the air from your "stomac"? How you can get your fry louder? Do you use your head voice or falsetto? I have so many questions? :))
I would say it’s more like projecting your head voice but keeping your vocal cords relaxed. Getting into the range where your voice starts to naturally break and then adding the fry. It’s a very tricky balance but feel free to email me if you have any more questions. Screamtheoryvocalcoaching@gmail.com
Can we get an ASMR version of this? That would be awesome!
ill put it on the list lol
Non of the video helped me understand how to fry scream. I’ll try this one out. Thanks a lot !
8:30 OMG YES! HELLFIRE BY LORNA SHORE THATS INCREDIBLE YOURE FANTASTIC IM SUBBING LOL
I have the lows and mids but I just simply cannot get the highs down and I’ve been practicing for so long
try out some of the exercises in this video for a few weeks. ua-cam.com/video/Ry4Fav-xM40/v-deo.htmlsi=igP3KL5Ws51gJ2Hc
you can also email me if you’re still having trouble.
I used to be able to fry scrwam as a kid
So I've been doing vocals for over 12 years now and I'm trying to go back and refine things and learn different techniques that I never properly learned. Over the years I was only able to do fry vocals as that hybrid scream mixed with false chord. So whenever I try to do the soft fry and add the little bit of tension I kinda just slip into a false chord type of sound and I don't know how to fix that..
I used to have the same issue because I initially spend two years learning FC screaming before learning fry. even till this day, I feel way more natural performing FC screams than fry screams. The way I improved it though was by not practicing FC screaming for a few weeks and only focusing on fry. eventually, when I started practicing both techniques in the same practice session, I would warm up and start with my fry screams for 15 to 20 minutes before warming up my false cords. warming up my false cords first would always make me want to naturally slip into using my FC’s even when I was trying to do fry screams.
am i doing the vocal fry wrong? i feel like i cant breath or choking when doing it, but when i watch u, u seem relax
I used to do this a lot when I was younger. didn’t know I was fry screaming.
Damn I've watched so many videos all I can do is false chord screams and fry screams feel like shards of glass when I go high and my mid is sloppy
The worst part is doing when i do something that seems right and is very distorted/compressed and doesn’t hurt, but it doesn’t sound that good so I have no idea if it’s completely wrong
Record yourself and listen back to it. You might be hearing it wrong so make sure you're not. If you still dont like the way isn't sounds when you listen back, you can play around with it and see what you're doing wrong or make adjustments
Funny enough, this video helped me realized I can do it breathing in. For some reason, I just can’t project going out. 😅
Hey man. So this is referred to as "inhale screams". There is a bit of debate on the safety of inhale screams among the metal vocals community. I personally stay away from them, because I agree with the safety concerns. Learning to properly fry scream is very difficulty but don't give up. I have a video titled "fry screaming exercises to make learning easier". I would recommend practicing those exercises for a few weeks and then attempt to produce the distortion while exhaling, after you have built up some better control over your true cords. Hope this helps.
I try as much as i can to learn fry vocals, but nothing helps me understand. I cant get to that frying vocal state as in it’s either to airy, or it just goes back to my soft voice. I also can’t get a good raspy voice to do it as it just goes into a soft voice,it’s really hard to learn stuff so it’s either going to take me a while or i may just give up on it. I’m having lots of trouble figuring out what to do
Same here!
@@yeahwhatever604 6 months later, I have honestly forgotten about this comment I have made. Hello person, I got your notification and I wanna tell you something, I have learned how to fry vocal months ago, It took me not long after I made that comment that I found the key. That key is patience, start with vocal warmups, do some fry vocal lessons. You will get it, trust me. Now I’m almost positive that your not christian, but what helped me most was Jesus. 👍 I hope you learn soon.
@@Nate_NCP Oh nice! Thank you :)
I was following your instruction just now, suddenly i made it, and lost it in a sec
It jsut hurts my throat idk what I’m doing wrong
Super useful… thanx man
I wonder if Mikael Akerfeldt Fry screams. The lows sound like his.
I wish I had seen this video weeks ago
I do agree, I find my practice is WAY better if I do a warm up, do a short short practice in the morning, rest and then do a full warm up and then do a full practice, that second practice is always way way better
I can do the deep voice where it starts to seperate. But i can get the fry
a while ago i started learning subharmonics and whenever i try to fry with any amount of air i produce a chest note and they harmonize into a subharmonic instead, how do i isolate my fry when I've already learnt something else?
Still can't do, but found my problem. My voice just do not have this fry, i realized it long ago, my friens were talking like that just for fun, while i just sitted there and were like "wtf, where is my fry??" when I go my lowest point it's just low voice or clean air flow, I learned low falsehood and growl, high false scream, but can NOT just keep fry scream working
I seem to struggle with my throat feeling dry while trying this. Any tips for that?
It could be due to many reasons such as pushing more air than needed, improper technique with vocal cord positioning, living in an area with low humidity. I would need more info to properly assess. You can email me a recording if you would like to at Screamtheoryvocalcoaching@gmail.com.
You can also try drinking water throughout the day (not just all at once right before practicing), avoiding heavy caffeine intake (1 or 2 cups of coffee is typically fine), and doing some cardio exercise 15-20 mins a day (increasing heart rate promotes blood flow to the vocal cords and hydrates them more effectively).
Could someone tell how to close vocal chords?? I cant actually figure it out 😭
👍
You sound like the wind 😃
3:27 has me a little confused because I'm not particularly understanding what he means by active tension. I kinda got everything before down, but it kinda went 0-100 for me.
active tension is the tension produced by muscle contraction, where as passive tension is tension produced by the elastic stretching of muscles, ligaments, or tendons. this is what I mean about the fine motor control aspect. The reason why you only feel 0-100 in terms of muscle activation is due to lack of motor
control. Think of a novice piano player, who is trying hit certain keys, but they either undershoots, or overshoots the key. with practice, they eventually develop the muscle control to contract their muscles with just the right amount of force needed to hit the keys they want. too much force causes overshooting, too little force causes undershooting. this is normal for beginners of any complex motor skill to experience. We can either turn the muscle on to 100%, or turn it off at 0%. it takes practice to be able to dial in the force production of a muscle to generate a precise amount of force, somewhere between 0-100%
@@Scream-Theory Thank you! Wasn't expecting such a fast response on a 7 month old video! But this makes a lot of sense. It's gonna take a lot of practice but I'm starting to get the sound right!
@@neith4396 check out my newer fry screaming guide that I made earlier this year. I go a lot more in depth on than this video.
When I'm tightening my vocal cords the fry sound just disapers and I'm left with just breathing noise, what should I do?
sounds like you might be tensing up your vocal cords too much. I recently made a video called “the ultimate guide to fry screaming 2023”. you should check it out because I think it will help you visualize the correct positioning better, and get a better understanding.
Seems that I've arrived at soft fry just naturally, but I can't add volume to it :\
I’ve tried this way before and I sound like some kind of wildcat in heat or like a goblin thing! I’m looking for “WAAAAAAAUGH!” type of screams, but mine are just hoarse, raspy “WAOOOW WAOOOOOOW” noises where I can’t hear that much crackling. So it either comes out like “squaaaawk” like a chicken or like a cat with a sore throat. LOL
From what you are saying, it sounds like you have figured out how to produce the distortion using the correct positioning, but you are unable to project it or make it sound powerful. This is a normal step in learning to fry scream that most people experience. To fry scream properly, you need to be able to produce the distortion sound, while simultaneously performing a shout or yell, supporting it with your airflow. The vocal cords need to be vibrating while in the fry screaming positioning. That is what makes it sound loud and powerful, because that is how the voice works. I have a video with some exercises to help with this. ua-cam.com/video/Ry4Fav-xM40/v-deo.html
@@Scream-Theory It still has that “untamed wild animal with a voracious appetite” kind of sound and that on its own is cool.
Woah I think I got it I just had to be super quiet bc it’s 1:am in the morning rn and I don’t wanna wake up my family 😭😭😭
I've tried to make my vocal voice super smooth and clean like a piercing sound lol, so this makes my head hurt when trying to learn to do the exact opposite.
So actually, If you are good at singing softly with very little tension in your voice, this helps a lot with fry screaming. Watch my most recent video on fry screaming and you will see why.
Ok I will check it out! TY!@@Scream-Theory
Why can’t I do it!!!😣☹️
Yea this trick ain't the one for me haha doing this just makes my throat tickle a bunch.
I thought this was going to be about Futurama
I watched for a couple minutes and then skipped through to see when it finally sounded like Fry...derp
Got the fry nailed down. False chord is kicking my booty still
It clicked a bit. It's like a cat. Like a cat sound.
Yes! like a bobcat growl
Help! I cannot do that one noise at 3:13
I just have no idea how to apply that "Active tension" and I have tried everything!!
What do I do??
watch this video, and the part you are looking for is at seven minutes and 10 seconds ua-cam.com/video/Ry4Fav-xM40/v-deo.htmlsi=LeJaT5Ox6hP5K9py
@@Scream-Theory Thank you!!!
I will check the video later and see how I can improve!! 😁👍👍👍
@@Bararaian no problem. Good luck. Email me a recording if you need feedback.
@@Scream-Theory I have watched the video and it is very helpful.
I still cannot get through the exercise at 11:00 in that other video or the one behind it because I have no idea what do you mean with rasp and how to produce it. Should I email you a recording??
ThankYou!!!! 👍
@@Bararaian Yes you can email me and I will give you feedback
Title should be "how tp make wind gust sounds
I cant get ittttt! I can do the fry thing perfectly but when it comes to screaming my voice wont let me
check out my 2023 fry tutorial. the biggest thing people get wrong is not learning how to belt, or project their voice. If you can do soft fry, thats the positioning element. Now you have to learn to project your voice, or belt, and then slip into the soft fry positioning while simultaneously keeping your true cords vibrating. The only way a fry scream becomes loud and powerful is the same way that singers make their voice sound “strong”.
@@Scream-Theory Thank you so much! I already know how to project and belt, I just have a difficulty of mixing the two together. but I will defidently check out your tutorial. I appreciate it:)
When I try this my throat tickles where I want to cough, is that normal at first? Help
That can happen in some people initially when learning false cord screaming, due to turbulent air flow in the space between the false cords and the true cords. It definitely should not be happening with fry screaming. Email me a recording and I can give you feedback. Screamtheoryvocalcoaching@gmail.com
Also check out my most recent video about fry screaming exercises and skills that will make learning easier. I think it will help you gain more control over your true cords and make this issue go away.
I can fry scream but I can’t sing in head voice very high anymore. My head voice used to be stronger and not airy but now it’s super airy
I notice that my head voice is harder to do when im not fully hydrated or if Ive had a lot of caffeine.
@@Scream-Theory I can’t even hit full pitches with head voice it just becomes air
@@shunedits6155 I have a similar issue. everyone has a natural range and when I try to sing super high-pitched there comes a point where it just turns into air like you said. However I can get slightly higher than my limits by belting. When I was younger my range was higher too but I think I lost some of it with age
@@Scream-Theory but all my high notes do this
@@shunedits6155 what is your natural range? Mine is two whole steps lower than a bass would be. I actually have a really high head voice as well, but most days I can’t even get a single note out in my head voice.
I’m still doing the deep voice and it’s not frying
I can give you feedback if you send me a recording. Screamtheoryvocalcoaching@gmail.com
0:43 white girls when you ask them what they want for dinner
Bro hahaha
I don't think I'm getting the tense part right? I just sound like my mom told me to clean my room and I got an attitude
I have a newer video that explains this better. Its called “the ultimate guide to fry screaming 2023”
ETHS' Candice clot made it click for me
Is this healthy for my voice if I’m a vocalist?
Yes, when performed correctly. Soft fry should feel very comfortable. Full power fry screaming can be dangerous if you don't have a proper foundation with the correct technique
Is my throat supposed to tickle a little ? 😂
I still cant do it
cant do it man. just sounds like im shitting. everytime i put more breath into the fry it just turns into my normal voice but like im pushing
HAHAHA thats one way to describe it. Feel free to email me if you would like feedback. Screamtheoryvocalcoaching@gmail.com
Im currently working on an updated fry screaming tutorial. Most of the info will be the same in my past videos but illustrated and presented more straightforward.
Ok, but you're making those fry's quieter than speech. What when you want to add them to your singing?
You need to project your voice like belting or singing with power and then try to slip into the fry positioning while simultaneously keeping your true cords vibrating. The loudness comes from your true cords vibrating how they normally would when singing with projection. Practicing soft fry like this helps you figure out the positioning in a low intensity way. Just keep in mind that soft fry typically involves a little bit more tension in the vocal cords. The transition from belting to fry screaming, will feel a little more subtle, and you shouldn’t feel as much tension in the true cords as you would when doing soft fry.
Tensed up? Tense what up and where? how?...
GOKIL NIH PRINDAPAN
this is like the fricking 20th video i have watched. i cant get the hang of it and its so frustrating.
Watch this video and practice these exercises for a few weeks, then take another crack at it. ua-cam.com/video/Ry4Fav-xM40/v-deo.htmlsi=4_taHYgcT1uLQoXM
thank you so much@@Scream-Theory
Anyone i js hope in here while the ads was in welp did it work?
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so i get to the point of "clickiness" and i haven't been able to get past that. only way i know is to sound like a duck / kinda puking it out, but that sounds wrong... it does get rid of the click tho
I STILL CANT FUCKING DO IT!!!!!
spend some time practicing singing. trying to hit different notes will give you the ability to finely control your true cords. Fry screaming requires precise control over your true cords and sensory awareness of how you are positioning them. Without that level of control its going to be like stabbing in the dark.
I really ain’t getting it lmao
Same here, i’ve watched so many tutorials and it is just so confusing
practiced for years and still can't figure out a thing :/
it hurts me
fry screaming shouldn’t cause any pain at all with proper technique. if this is the first vocal technique you are trying to learn, I recommend first practicing clean singing or false cord screaming for a few months, then try to learn fry. there are certain foundational things you need in order to do it correctly as well as properly conditioned to vocal cords to handle the forces of fry screaming..
So happy I tried this. Totally wasn’t a fucking waste of time like every other fry scream video I’ve seen in my life. I’ve tried everything without quitting over the frustration. But god fucking HATES to see me succeed. So I’ll never scream. Fuck that. Fuck this. Fuck singing. Fuck it😬😂🤙 I don’t fucken care anymore. I couldn’t be bothered to give a fuck about making dumb ass sounds for even another second. Because months wasn’t enough. Fuck fry screams.
When I was 16, I nearly ruined my voice trying to learn to fry scream. So I instead spent 2 years practicing false cord screaming and revisited fry screaming, and I got it but only after I had built up some motor control over my true cords. If you are really having a hard time learning it, then I would recommend seeking private lessons to have someone guide you through it in real time. I also have another video titled “fry screaming exercises to make learning easier”. I recommend practicing those exercises for a few weeks and then trying again. every single person who has trouble with frying screaming has almost the exact same issues. they do not have the foundational skills that help you figure out the right positioning. It takes really fine control over how you position your true cords. The muscles are so small and most people can’t even feel them contract, unless they have a lot of experience practicing singing.
doesnt work
One of the biggest reasons why people have trouble with fry screaming is because it requires a great deal of motor control over the laryngeal and vocal muscles. I recommend spending a few weeks practicing soft singing, and belting. Then come back and try learning fry screaming again. We need the ability to contract the vocalis, and thyroarytenoid muscles with just enough force. Without motor control, it’s an all or nothing contraction. this goes for any muscle performing a complex task. In a beginner, they can either turn the muscle on to 100%, or off at 0%. We need the ability to contract the muscles with just enough force to generate around 30 to 60% of maximum tension.
I don’t understand someone please help me I reach only the level of lazy annoying talking and that’s it help please
Am i the only one who nearly threw up after trying to add the distortion thing 💀