Manectric Only - Pokemon Emerald
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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On the sixth day of December, Scott's Thoughts gave to me:
Wattson's ace in Hoenn
'Phan v Ursaring!
A tiny turtle's bubble
The fire starter digging
A garden lizard's leech seed
And those three weirdo mons punching
whats funny is that its less often been his ace then magneton
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For those of us that don't have all the nature's memorized, perhaps you could put the negative stat in red text and the positive stat in green text
Pokemon uses red for the boosted stat and blue for the lowered stat
Or just listen at the beginning lmao
If you haven't memorized the natures are you even a fan
@@derekberthiaume5367 elitism help Noone, dick
@@derekberthiaume5367yes, actually, because people can be more casual fans of the media they choose to enjoy. no one likes a gatekeeper for a children's game, man
I love daily December Scott. Thank you for being an absolute boss
I second this!
Me too!
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They release at about 5 am here in australia, something fresh for the ride in to work!
I wouldn't be too surprised if naughty is better than rash anyway for a lot of special attackers that get physical coverage. It probably depends on which specific challenges a pokemon faces more so than which moves it prefers to use to overkill grunts
Since you're howling so much anyway naughty may be best here.
As a heads up, a super effective non-STAB Bite will do less damage than a neutral, STAB Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Surf/etc. There is nothing that resists Electric in the Hoenn Elite 4 where but would be better, so unless you are worried about PP or tryting to flinch an opponent, keeping Bite over Thunderbolt for Phoebe was a misplaced. People have already mentioned HP-grass over water (i personally think while it is better, HP Water wasnt a bad idea at all). Great video overall!!
As a kid, Manectric was almost always my go-to electric type in gen 3 playthroughs. I had no idea it has a slow growth rate.
Pressure isn't 1st turn only ability, it doubles PP consumption for all moves that target pokemon with pressure.
Right, but after one howl, instead of needing say 3 bites (and 6pp) to knock out dusclops, he only needs 2 bites (and 4pp).
@@chrisdaignault9845Bite is a special move in Gen 3. Howl doesn't affect it's damage.
I figured that you had deliberately picked Naughty nature with Roxanne in mind, giving yourself an Attack boost without sacrificing any important stats with regards to beating her. I'm also unsure about which HP would be best for Manectric; Ice definitely has its upsides, with Drake as well as Steven's Cradily taking super effective damage from it. However, Water is really good for Camerupt, as well as having synergy with Rain Dance. Grass is really good for Whiscash, though, so it's hard to say for sure. I'm sure you'll figure out an answer to that question when you've gotten a better feel for this game though.
oh look it's my to go special attack EV fodder in Emerald
That Steven battle was an emotional roller coaster. Funny thing about Manectric, in gen IV they decided all of a sudden that it should get Fire moves as coverage, so it can get Flamethrower in those games which helps a lot with coverage. It feels like there's a giant gap in effectiveness between Electric types that have solid coverage moves (The Electabuzz line comes to mind with Ice Punch) and those that are stuck with mostly Electric.
Loving "daily december"! Thanks so much for all the hard work you've been doing to make this happen!
I’m glad the naughty nature didn’t come back to bite you in the end.
I kinda agree with you: largely I love the Gen 3 designs, but there are some really strange over-designed ones and to me, Manetric is one of them.
You've been doing these runs for a while so I guess you know how to do these better than me but in my opinion:
1) HP Water is nice for Camerupt which I know you struggled with but it's basically not as good as Grass or Ice for anything else. In particular, Ice would have helped for a lot of Pokémon you had a problem with. A regularly effective Thunderbolt is better than a super effective Hidden Power.
2) I think you were completely paralysed by fear of missing against Sydney; it REALLY wasn't worth keeping Shock Wave, especially if you went for HP Ice.
3) Your movesets against Steven were hilarious. I do kinda think with Slow rate Pokémon, you really can't use rare candies earlier than the champion. I don't know if you do use the Pokénav Trainer Eyes, but the route with the day care is pretty good experience once the teams get better from a few battles. I think it's better to do training then using that, although I do appreciate the late Fly badge makes this a bit of a pain in the butt. Worth experimenting with though at least.
It's such a shame it doesn't get Flamethrower in this generation!
Scott: "I feel like everyones gonna roast me for choosing naughty nature. Please be kind, i feel bad."
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naughty nature do??? 🤔 "
The man is a legend! I found your old videos just this year and I've been going through your catalog... Dedication doesn't cover it lmao.
Thank you for Daily December, just remember to take care of yourself as well man!
Much love
Is it just me or does anyone else get absolutely hyped for an Emerald video 😊
Scott can't help it if he's Naughty by default!!
Love the content, this consistency is absolutely bonkers in December!
We should have a what if series like what if Manectrick learned Flametrower like latter generations.
Manectric, along with some others, were from my very first Emerald playthrough, so it'll always have a special place in my heart. On the topic of the Mega, yeah I really like it too. It's on the sillier side but at the same time it's straight up (or I get straight sideways) a lightning bolt. How could that not be cool?
Man that gen 3 soundtrack hits so hard
Those mega evolutions for the pokemon that weren't already super strong were such a fun addition to the game. Beedrill, Glalie etc.
I would very much like to see them return at some point even if it seems we are shifting to flavour of the gen gimmicks going forward.
Tera and Z moves were fine, gigantimax had some interesting designs similar to mega but dynamax just wasn't a good idea in singles play.
“Facade is gonna hit way harder now”
He said as a Manectric on 15hp
I adore Manectric! I caught it in my original Emerald run because I wanted an electric type to complement the team I had at the time.
I didn’t expect much, but she saved the team many times in my Wallace fight, Steven Stone fight, AND pretty much carried the entire team on her back for the Battle Frontier.
I was also getting into battling friends at the time, and she beat two of my friends AND a kid who said my team was garbage XDDD
Since then, if she’s an option, I catch an Elektrike. I used her again in ORAS, and named her after my OG one as I lost the cartridge years ago.
Elektrike/Manectric was always an MVP for me, so seeing this run was a fun trip down memory lane.
13:13 - This thing just reminds me of Buu Saga Super Saiyan Vegeta. Also, I agree that this thing looks like a mid-stage evolution. It's not grand enough like Arcanine or fearsome enough like Houndoom.
I like Manectric because it's a good doggo. I don't need any more reason than that.
"I’m sure all the people that love Manectric will come at me". Oh yeah, I’m sure the whole 2 of them will.
Every time the weird mechanics of thunder wave come up, Ray Rizzo grows stronger.
For steven, maybe a moveset of protect, substitute, thunderbolt, and bite with leftovers could work. You'll be able to pp stall dangerous moves and slowly heal up.
Fun run. Man I can't wait for Emerald 2nd runs
I always avoided electrike as a kid because it didn’t have any electric moves right when you catch one and it felt weak with its physical attacks lol but later on I realized it’s a good special attacker and learns spark after a few levels and then you can teach it shock wave and thunderbolt eventually
I used to like manectric’s design as a kid but now it looks like a guard dog - like an actual guard dog - a dog that is a guard. The ‘hair’ just looks like a guard’s helmet straight out of game of thrones or something
Doing doggos now scotty?
I approve
Daily December is pretty good no joke. Appreciate the work Scott
Well, Scott, this one was hard, I gotta say! What the luck you had with flamery! I really think Norman should have one Zangoose, it would makes the gym even harder!
personally i think the slightly higher base power and high chance to paralyze make spark better than shock wave, fun vid regardless, keep it up!
I like it better when the doggos have intimidate
it is not even a week in and the opening feels so tired already. I hope you are taking care of yourself Scott
100% agree with your take on manectric's design,i like the body and face but i never liked the pyramid head.
It has never felt like the final stage to me
plus i think i would like it more if it was the same green as electrik instead of turning blue
The mega fits so well as it's last form, it feels complete and powerful, especially the shiny version
Honestly I hate mega's because it means those pokemon will never evolve unless they have a regional form
Which makes some pokemon like glalie and manectric feel super under powered.
I was surprised to see no Overheat on the TM list. I thought it could always learn that, while Flamethrower was only added to its set later. Turns out both of them were added in gen 4. It can also learn Crunch and Snarl later, but I am kind of annoyed that it never got Dark Pulse.
The only time I actually used a Manectric was in ORAS, where on round 2 Steven’s Mega Metagross I was going to use my Mega Scizor to tank and chip it down, but decided to try for a Thunder Wave with my Manectric first, which I did get since Manectric outsped, then Mega Metagross missed a Giga Impact, so hey, I’ll use Flamethrower until I go down, and the Mega Metagross was then unable to move due to paralysis for two turns so three Flamethrowers actually took it out. If I recall correctly, I bred most of my team in another game for that run, so earlygame I had the egg move Flame Burst on my Electrike.
I love Manectric.
I personally think it looks more cool than silly 😅 I’ve used it on my original team back in Ruby. I just love all the doggo Pokémon.
Bonus: when ORAS came out, I encountered a shiny electrike with perfect IV’s in Sp.Atk and Speed, it’s shiny is black and yellow and it’s awesome! 🤩
I'm surprised that Modest/Adamant natures aren't seeing more use, I hadn't clocked that it was mostly Naughty/Rash until you said so
Jolteon is punk rock, Manectric is 80s synth rock.
I used Manectric in my Emerald playthrough and they definitely did an amazing job and helped with a lot of the water and flying enemies.
I don't know when you'll do it, but I look forward to the aggron playthrough. It may be hard, but he will do.
What u could do for the endgame for steven is that u could get some ev reducing berries to reduce the uneeded EVs u have so that u can use vitamins or do a small grind for the necessary evs for fights like this. It is kinda underrated but i believe it may lead to u having more consistent fights in the long run. Also HP ice will be the best overall just due to how gd the boltbeam combo is. Also consider a brave/quiet manetric since any excess speed is wasted
I used to like Manectric and I woukd use it on my emerald playthrough. Until I realized that he is just a walmart jolteon. Plus he doesnt learn thunderbolt by level up which is annoying.
I dont use it on Emerald anymore but in ORAS he is great! Overheat + Volt Switch is a great combo
Kane trick is the standard early gen Electric type. Great at going first and hitting with Thunderbolt, but not much else.
I remember how my mind was blown when I was like...12 and found out that Pure Power actually doubles the attack and not just meant +1.
The ranges Medicham gets in ADV are just completely nuts. Medicham's Brick Break has damage ranges comparable to Machamps Cross Chop which itself has almost 400 atk when maxed.
This December has been Scottcember. I love it 😃
So, there are reasons you would use charge instead of using an electric move twice. For 1, it conserves PP of the attacking move. And for 2, in the event you get stuck in a healing loop...as you have been known to do against Wallace. If you see that you don't 1-shot on say, the Wailord, you know the next turn, and possibly the turn after that could be full restores if you again fail to knock it out. If you used Charge, you would only have to suffer through one full restore. Though arguably you want him to waste them on Wailord as well.
It is sometimes advantageous to simply take a 'mon out in 1 damaging move instead of walking into the pitfall of healing loops.
Here was me assuming that the naughty nature was deliberate to cut grinding for Roxanne (who you fought with physical moves).
WHY IT HAS A SLOW GROWTH RATE I'LL NEVER KNOW 😢😢
I wish you liked Manectric's design more but I do have to admit it's early sprites arent its best. you should 100% check out its colosseum/xd animations though. I think it's SO COOL there...plus, i'm 100% with you on mega manectric. I feel like i'm one of the few Manectric lovers that actually really digs its mega evolution. It's SOOO good!
Yeahhhh…as I suspected as much as I love Manectric it really is difficult to use In a solo challenge 😓.
I'm most of the way through a solo playthrough with Gligar in Emerald... it definitely got a glow up lol. Maybe you could give it a shot?
Honestly I'm glad they seem to have moved away from Mega Evolutions. They were mostly given to Pokemon that either really needed another proper evolution, or things that were already fine as they were, plus usually they try to avoid showing too much favoritism towards any specific line in a starter trio and then Mega Charizard X/Y happened.
I think all moves which force an enemy mon out are in the lowest priority bracket(or second lowest?). makes sense considering that otherwise a fast mon with roar or similar could just switch the opponent for free, deleting stat boosts and effectively eliminating their turn, because they haven't moved yet.
blergh, hoenn games :p still, thanks as always for the ever-improving quality content; December is being a better month because of your work! Cheers!
That route west of mauville has like 3 trainers with 6 pokemon that can be rebattled ( think they level up to 40 or 50ish)upon talking too and the twins aswell Makes levelling up pretty quick. You just spam running back and forth from mauville and the route for a short bit of time, then talk to them for grinding that sweet level up
I love manectric. One of my faves. I just love electric types and actually really like its design and megaToo bad it didn't start learning flamethrower in gen 3
I was wondering that Manectric didn't learn Flamethrower but they added it in gen4 sadge.
Btw Scott u can rebattle the trainers east and west to the the 3rd badge city for experience(probably after the 5th badge possible) , u just need to run between two zones a couple of times, I think when u rebattle them they evolve their pokemon and are around lvl 30.
So we've had all these solo challenges. What about a duo challenge. Who is the best duo?
For some reason I thought Manetric learned crunch so I learned something new today. Its an egg move though. I can't unsee the triangle head anymore . Manetric is so much better in Gen 4 thanks to it learning Flamethrower via TM.
Hey Scott. As a fellow west coast Canadian I get why you do it, but PLEASE pronounce jirachi as juh-raw-chee instead of juh-ray-chee. It's like when people pronounce it mayrio instead of Mario. That being said I love all of your work ❤️
Given that your lategame was Howl/Return, are you sure Naughty was even incorrect? Feels like given the already-high SpA and that you needed to face Roxanne and the League (the two hardest parts) with Normal moves, that +Att was indeed correct.
If you struggled with Manectric then god help when Plusle and Minun come around.
I'm not finished with the video, but you do know you could've used Thunder Wave on Nosepass, right? I don't think it's ground type
This may be unorthodox but hidden power grass could have helped even if it isn't boosted by rain, alternative emerald has tutors for substitute and swagger, you could rely on swagger to beat Steven at a lower level if claydol was that much of an issue
It's sad that it doesn't learn flamethrower in emerald, a change in gen4 that we now take for granted
Hey Scott any chance of a argon line playthrough to see how they perform?
I think, for the same reason that you say speed stops being helpful after a certain point in Yellow, you can actually afford to use a nature that lowers Speed on Pokemon that already have lots of it, like this one. You have EVs and enemies don't, so you'll probably still outspeed with this one.
Also if you're going to use Rain Dance with an electric Pokemon, just teach it Thunder for better damage ranges.
Scott you've been Naughty.... Great Video
By the Way I feel like you never Talk about the Emerald Move Tutors (That are Not in the Battle Frontier)
Wait. Doesn’t Manetric learn Flamethrower in Gen 3? Did that come later?
Because I KNOW that it learns Flamethrower starting at some point in the series
In defense of Manectric vs Jolteon... you're not wrong, but it's shiny is way cooler, and it was my first full odds shiny, back in Ruby by complete chance.
No idea why HP ice wasn't chosen alongside the electric stab, being stronger against both the resisted/immune grasses and grounds (particularly cradily) and taking less time on drake than the return spam, i suppose it helped against camerupt in the magma base but I don't think thats worth it, though we haven't seen how much it's earthquake does
With thunderbolt otherwise having a higher effective power against singularly weak opponents like rock types, besides the synergy with rain which is difficult to use with frail electrics anyway and didn't end up doing too much I believe ice should've been used as the hidden power, and should probably be a standard across any electrics used
It's genuinely painful that Manectric doesn't get Flamethrower in Gen 3...
I always found manetric as weird.. but i did love electrike. I didn't really use megas much in gen 6.. however, mega manetric looks like hephestus (from greek mythology, forger of zeus's Lighting bolts) was drunk, and went to work.
Why did you use Howl against Phoebe? Bite is a special move in Gen III
The only way Mega Evolution could realistically come back is with Kalos remakes.
The total amount of ev from mandatory battles should be enough to outspeed any opponet for pokemon with 90plus base speed (at the same level)
Why didn't you just thunder wave nosepass? That probably would have been very useful
Great video dude!
I feel like EV training would potentially be worth testing to see if it is more impactful for a Pokemon and can get a lower time. In your Fire Red run for Pidgeot for instance, you showed your current EV spread around the time you reached Celadon and had 20 in ATK and 125 in Speed. That was a Pokemon that you needed to blackout of the Elite 4 and do a lot of additional training and then come back at a higher level to complete the run. Granted, we don't know what your final EVs look like on the Pokemon, but I can't help but think a lot of those EVs that ended up Speed would have helped with your damage ranges earlier if they were in ATK instead. Your final Speed stat was more than double any of your opponent's Speed. Male Nidoran give ATK EVs and is available on Route 3. It just seems like a lot of potential left on the table, especially since you can't badge boost with Agility in gen 3 the same way.
Mt. Moon is even better, as the in-between floors always spawn Paras, which gives 1 Atk EV.
This seems like it is worth testing out to compare results in the end.@@skeetermania3202
Its a bit like Jolteon but whit unique Moves like Flammtrower, and Crunch it gets some great Couverage.
Or not? I swear it sould have fire moves in Gen 3. I did play it a lot... Hm, my worldview shatters, I was so sure.
I'm the same really, I don't particularly like Manectric's design (I dont particularly dislike it either tbh) but I love the design of Mega Manectric
In wish Manectric got a 3rd stage evolution, but at least they gave it a mega in gen 6
Getting Protect or Dig for Norman could be an almost guaranteed Win agains his Slaking due to Truant.
This hurts a bit. In Gen 3 I loved using Manectric but yeah bad growth rate and bad move pool. Honestly it feels like Electric types get really screwed over by move pool selection in the first 3 gens.
Roar needs to have lowered priority, otherwise it would be completely broken-get it on a fast mon (hell, choice scarf it) and keep roaring opponent who cannot do anything when slower while spikes damage accumulates.
Not being able to optimize for EV's during a playthrough is part of why I hate the system so much. It's why for me at least, whenever I've done my own private solo runs, I just preset my EV along with my IVs. No, it isn't in anyway representative of realistic play, but then again neither is using any Pokémon that can't actually be obtained at the start of the game.
More to the point, I'm OCD enough that knowing EVs exist but not being able to optimize for them just really stresses me out.
That said, I usually only preset my EVs to values that could be obtained with vitamins. After all, with trading it would at least be possible to "start" with any unevolved/non-legendary Pokémon, or at least obtain it before any major battles, and by that same logic, the Pokémon could be fed vitamins in whatever game it's being traded from.
I think HP Ice would have been a better choice for Manectric against Grass and Ground types that don't have Water as a primary type.
Hey, great video, but you could have made the champion fight even easier if you would have swapped the shell bell with a chesto berry. If you would have done the resto chesto strat manectric would have been at full health against the milotic and would have one.
Your gen 3 vids are my favorite
Yay! One of my favorite electric types
14:04 Manectric was always very middling, to me: not bad but also nothing to write home about; it was actually Electrike the one I personally disliked, since it always paralyzed me, that angry face looked really aggressive and its Gen 3 sprite makes its head look really disproportionately big compared to the rest of its body, imo; I've only somewhat recently started liking the line more; their shinies were always awesome, though.
Most gen 3 Pokemon have bizarrely bad stats and I don’t know why.
Edit: also, it seems like Steven will be a really polarizing final challenge in emerald because of metagross and its busted stats/typing. I guess the “in emerald” part is the context for these runs, though.
So Lightning Rod just increases the number of calls you get? The heck kind of an ability...?
In the overworld. It also prevent electric damage in battle.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon "Lightning rod does not give an immunity to electric-type attacks, it doesn't give a plus special attack boost when you get hit by them", you said about gen 3, adding "both of those effects were added starting in gen 5". 2:53-3:03
This thing was a beast and through a egg move it could learn Crunch
Should've got HP Ice or Grass. Thunderbolt is already a good stab move for Manectric. HP water was a big mistake.
I figured it was probably to boost Return or something like that XD
The tag gym is such a drag on G3 solo runs.
manectric is your angle and houndoom is your devil
I love the good boi :3 my first electric type
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