MIKE MENTZER: THE HARD GAINER AND THE CASE FOR CONSOLIDATED TRAINING (ANIMATED VIDEO)

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  • Опубліковано 10 бер 2024
  • To learn more about Mike Mentzer's life, legacy and teachings, please visit: www.hituni.com/about/mike-men...
    In 1998, Mike Mentzer presented a lecture on the logic of his Consolidation Program, which he found to be particularly helpful to the goals of the hard gainer; i.e., those who either have a low tolerance for exercise or who have been training for years and not made any progress. This is an attempt to visually animate his talk (which was only recorded on audio), which resulted in a far more visually appealing presentation than merely employing old footage and stock clips, where the contrast can sometimes be striking.
    Among the topics Mike Mentzer explains in this presentation are:
    Why people need a valid training theory
    The proper starting point
    Why one set per exercise is all most people need
    Frequency (How often should you train?)
    The problem of overtraining
    The details of Mike’s Consolidation Program
    For those interested in the distillation of what Mike learned from his 30 years of training, and over ten years of training natural trainees, this is a very compelling video.
    Special thanks to John Balik for allowing me to use his photos for animation purposes.
    Also, to see more of Mike Mentzer check out these videos by Wayne Gallasch of GMV:
    MIKE & RAY MENTZER TRIPLE PACK DVD SET (V-209SP-DVD) tinyurl.com/ym4vdkta
    MIKE & RAY MENTZER - GYM WORKOUT DOWNLOAD (V-121) tinyurl.com/2ua7p8rj
    MIKE MENTZER - FINAL CHAPTER DOWNLOAD (V-208) tinyurl.com/yc4efn8y

КОМЕНТАРІ • 91

  • @richardbrandt9086
    @richardbrandt9086 Місяць тому +8

    I've been training for 14 years, and never has anyone opened my mind like Mike. It makes total sense. The only reason you wouldn't benefit from his program is that you don't know how to get to complete failure

  • @CharlesCipriani
    @CharlesCipriani 3 місяці тому +31

    A man ahead of his time. I've been training 15 years, and realized after studying Mike's work that I have been overtraining my whole life. I started training Mike's training regiment last month....I gained 10 lbs of muscle. 🙏

    • @CharlesCipriani
      @CharlesCipriani 3 місяці тому +6

      I need to also state...I took 3 weeks off from training to rest and recover prior to starting this program. That's the longest I've ever taken off. I never missed a beat.

    • @ronmexico79
      @ronmexico79 3 місяці тому

      How often were you training before this program? Also, are you sure that was 10lbs of muscle? Seems like a lot for 1 month in gains

    • @CharlesCipriani
      @CharlesCipriani 3 місяці тому +5

      @ronmexico79 I've been training my entire life. Before I started this program I was training 5 to 6 days per week. 1 hr to 1.5 hrs per training day.
      I took 3 weeks off, which is the most time I've ever taken off from the gym in 12 yrs. I was 8% body fat at the time.
      The combo of increasing calories by 500 per day and the mentzer training regiment aloud my body to build and recover properly.

    • @CharlesCipriani
      @CharlesCipriani 3 місяці тому +5

      I've gained 20 lbs now. I'm 12 % body fat. My squat jumped from 185lbs to 230lbs. My bench 150lbs to 190lbs. My Deadlift 225lbs to 315lbs. Curls 35lbs to 45lbs. Average reps of 10.
      I take zero supplements. Only real food. I'm blown away with results.

    • @ronmexico79
      @ronmexico79 3 місяці тому

      @@CharlesCipriani congratulations man! These are huge gains! I guess im just too addicted to overtraining to take off 3 weeks. I'd love to give it a try someday. Keep on pumping! 🤜🏻🤛🏻

  • @tanman966
    @tanman966 3 місяці тому +45

    Anyone reading this, who’s still unsure whether to give HDHIT a go... please do!
    For someone who’s natural, wants to *think* about their workouts and who can train hard, it’s perfect!!
    I was once an avid, 30+ year old gym goer. 5 times/week, push pull legs, 6 exercises, 3 sets of 10. Now it’s once every 72 hours, 4-6 sets per workout.
    Look around the gym: most are either juicing, look shit or performing 3 texts of 10...
    Thanks for the upload, John. You (and the spirit of the Mentzer brothers) changed my life 🥸🥸

    • @tgreeny1400
      @tgreeny1400 3 місяці тому

      Well its common sense. The timeframe will vary a bit person to person, but if you don't allow proper heal time, muscle size and strength is slowed.
      When the fundamentals of science are observed with the BS of propaganda and marketing cut out, it is a much better result.
      Going with natural laws as opposed to fighting against them.

    • @-Filip-
      @-Filip- 3 місяці тому +6

      I have been lifting for 2 years, reached 95 kgs while being 198 cm tall having 12% body fat. Working out 10-12 sets per body part spending over 90 minutes in the gym 4 times a week. Then got diagnosed with chronic stomach inflammation. Now after a year and a half I have 74 kgs, recovering from the disease and being much smarter after I have read 2 books from Mike. Once I am fully recovered I will test Mike's HIT and see how effective it really is because it makes a lot of logical sense.

  • @TopBananaE
    @TopBananaE 3 місяці тому +38

    I decided to train (full body) once per week on a Saturday since January, dropping from twice per week. What a massive difference that bit of extra rest has made. I am raring to go, numbers are going up, and I feel great.

    • @ronnieriosstayshredded7410
      @ronnieriosstayshredded7410 3 місяці тому +3

      Full body is too intense for the body imo if done at high intensity for 1 set

    • @TopBananaE
      @TopBananaE 3 місяці тому +8

      @@ronnieriosstayshredded7410 depends on selection. I do push, pull, legs with neck and calves, just 5 exercises, 5 sets. 20 minutes tops, job done.

    • @ronnieriosstayshredded7410
      @ronnieriosstayshredded7410 3 місяці тому

      @@TopBananaE you need weights

    • @TopBananaE
      @TopBananaE 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@ronnieriosstayshredded7410you need resistance. That can be weights, machines, cables, bands, calisthenics. The principles remain. Exerted effort to failure.

    • @ronnieriosstayshredded7410
      @ronnieriosstayshredded7410 3 місяці тому

      @@TopBananaE true

  • @powersfoshow
    @powersfoshow 3 місяці тому +23

    This shit is forreal man. I did volume training my whole life and finally got tired of basing my life schedule around the gym. Even in a fairly hefty calorie deficit, i continue to gain strength each workout. The hardest part is trying it because you cant wrap your head around the idea. And probably also the fact that many of us are addicted to the gym.

    • @antoniocasanova8481
      @antoniocasanova8481 3 місяці тому +2

      I’m also tired of volume training man. Are you doing this exact A/B routine with 7 days of rest in between ?

    • @powersfoshow
      @powersfoshow 3 місяці тому +2

      @@antoniocasanova8481 No I train every 3rd day, Chest/Back, Legs, and Shoulders/Arms. If you are volume training 5-6 days a week, with my many experimentations over the past year, I suggest you this: change your training to Monday, Wednesday, and Friday with the split I just mentioned. Do one set per exercise and with the utmost intensity you can muster. See how that feels over a few weeks and record all your workouts, then read it over and see if you made progress. If you don't make any meaningful progress, add another rest day between workouts. It's like finding the appropriate medicine for your recovery system. I would also note that it may beneficial for you to take an entire week off from training before implementing your new strategy, I did it before I added the 2nd rest day and it helped tremendously.

    • @alxdgr8806
      @alxdgr8806 3 місяці тому

      ​@@powersfoshow thank you for sharing this! 🙏🏽 I have been training 5-6 days a week and looking for chan6

    • @powersfoshow
      @powersfoshow 3 місяці тому

      @@alxdgr8806 it's my pleasure man, I hate to see people struggle as I did while working their asses off. And for that reason, I have just joined a program that is helping me setup my online training business.

    • @stevemann1299
      @stevemann1299 2 місяці тому +3

      Thats it in a nutshell. Many are just addicted to the routine of going to the gym. Whether it benefits them or not. They do it like zombies for years.

  • @eliteman58
    @eliteman58 3 місяці тому +16

    I just don't understand how people would want to perform a second set to failure after the stimulus has been created.on that first set

  • @HDLifter
    @HDLifter 3 місяці тому +5

    Mike, as usual, says it as it is. If I can progress and gain, after 46 years--FORTY SIX YEARS!--of Heavy Duty, anyone can.

  • @spino008
    @spino008 3 місяці тому +9

    Man, this is exactly what I needed. I am one of the hard gainers!

    • @abel4776
      @abel4776 2 місяці тому +2

      Same, which means conserve MORE energy than mesos or endos do. Expend little as possible for failure, conserve the caloric energy for building, because as you know... breathing, typing, or clicking a computer mouse feels like 10 calories of loss per minute.

  • @borkosogli3237
    @borkosogli3237 3 місяці тому +14

    the only truth in the fitness industry

  • @imbuzzin6662
    @imbuzzin6662 3 місяці тому +8

    It’s working! Started 9/23💎☺️

  • @alirezafayyaz417
    @alirezafayyaz417 2 місяці тому +3

    By listening to this podcast and other videos of this channel, I have received new windows of science and countless inspirations, and I thank God for introducing you to me.💯❤❤❤

  • @lock7852
    @lock7852 12 днів тому +1

    The standard consolidated program is perfect imo💪just add calf raises and ohp

  • @cervimatteo
    @cervimatteo 3 місяці тому +6

    This is nectar for our soul body and mind. Thank you

  • @FabriceTerrade
    @FabriceTerrade 3 місяці тому +6

    A brilliant mind. Thank you for creating this video.

  • @andypicken7848
    @andypicken7848 3 місяці тому +4

    John, I do wonder how much of this was Mikes own work or how much he was "standing on ghe shoulders of othrrs" but its obvious, Mike was a great thinker.
    A very interesting listen.
    Thanks for posting

  • @Brian-vi6zl
    @Brian-vi6zl 3 місяці тому +16

    I've been doing HIT for 9 months. Amazing results. Short example - went from 115lbs for 3 sets of 8 on shoulder press machine to 320lbs for 7 reps for 1 set. I'm 40. 6ft1in. 235lbs. Heavy Duty is the way. UPDATE 3/20/24: just lifted 360 lbs for 6 reps plus 1.5 rest pause reps.

    • @OurTimeIsOut
      @OurTimeIsOut 3 місяці тому +2

      Wow amazing gains on the presses

    • @OurTimeIsOut
      @OurTimeIsOut 3 місяці тому +3

      I am four months in and making progress but shoulders will be slow due to a tear back in 1993 where part of my upper bicep tore off. It also affects chest workouts too.

    • @maciejg8864
      @maciejg8864 3 місяці тому +1

      Brian great progress, thanks for that message keep it up brother

    • @mn8os
      @mn8os 3 місяці тому

      Damn!!!

    • @abel4776
      @abel4776 2 місяці тому

      @@OurTimeIsOut Have you tried carnivore diet for healing?

  • @iam_kxylee
    @iam_kxylee 3 місяці тому +4

    Beautiful

  • @oliverdosa5693
    @oliverdosa5693 3 місяці тому +10

    If anyone came here to say: "well, who could possibly curl 100 lb for 10?"
    You would, maximum 1 year into his program

    • @ronmexico79
      @ronmexico79 3 місяці тому

      Give me this program

    • @oliverdosa5693
      @oliverdosa5693 3 місяці тому

      @@ronmexico79 ua-cam.com/video/852rGXEa5wQ/v-deo.htmlsi=D_iWIsZ2oW9lqym4

    • @mn8os
      @mn8os 3 місяці тому +2

      @@ronmexico79no, you cannot have it. You are from Mexico

    • @ronmexico79
      @ronmexico79 3 місяці тому

      @@mn8os I'm American, Google me

    • @user-sl9tt6tr4r
      @user-sl9tt6tr4r Місяць тому

      😂😂boi​@@mn8os

  • @rodingoesboom
    @rodingoesboom 3 місяці тому +5

    Thank you for this John!

  • @juliensharapov4282
    @juliensharapov4282 3 місяці тому +3

    I follow his last program, once a week A/B workout. Before that I did boxing, soviet style all my life. We had workout based on pain resistance where the intensity was extreme, but unrelated to muscle building.
    It prepared me for HIT I guess. I have excellent results training 10 minutes a week. But as he said, overtraining is very real with HIT.

  • @OurTimeIsOut
    @OurTimeIsOut 3 місяці тому +20

    I look around and I am the only one in the gym with a log book.

    • @toiletbowl04
      @toiletbowl04 3 місяці тому +10

      Same, sometimes i feel weird pulling it out but then i see everyone looking down at their phones in between their 19th and 20th set

    • @OurTimeIsOut
      @OurTimeIsOut 3 місяці тому +3

      @@toiletbowl04 That too it's a social club

    • @jacobm92
      @jacobm92 3 місяці тому +7

      Most people track their exercise on their phone. Just because you see a smart phone doesnt mean its being used for Tik Tok or whatever.

    • @OurTimeIsOut
      @OurTimeIsOut 3 місяці тому +4

      @@jacobm92 Didn't think about that.

    • @jacobm92
      @jacobm92 3 місяці тому +5

      @@OurTimeIsOut yeah i use my phone but i honestly should get a notebook. Easier to record reps and weight progression that way.

  • @user-Surya-sheaker-s7-
    @user-Surya-sheaker-s7- 3 місяці тому +1

    Please can anybody tell me that I am 70kg and willing to build body like Mike menzter so according to Mr.Menzter. how much protein is needed
    Please tell me.

    • @GodsDecison
      @GodsDecison 3 місяці тому

      Go online and look up a calorie calculator, input your height and weight then go into Chat GPT or consult a professional about how much carbs fats and proteins you should be eating a good ratio is 60% carbs 25% protein and 15% fat, depending if you want to gain weight or lose weight its going to depend on how many calories you should be eating. 300 to 500 calories above your minimum intake is good for bulking and -100 to -200 is good for a cut.

    • @chokin78
      @chokin78 3 місяці тому +2

      He suggests 60 carbs 25 proteins 15 fat. The reason of a high carbs ratio is you need them as the primary source of energy for a high intensity protocol.

    • @user-Surya-sheaker-s7-
      @user-Surya-sheaker-s7- 3 місяці тому

      @@chokin78 OK This ratio I know very earlier i am asking how much protein is required for building muscle like Mike menzter

    • @chokin78
      @chokin78 3 місяці тому

      @@user-Surya-sheaker-s7- oh not sure about that... It will depend on your daily requirements and goals

    • @user-Surya-sheaker-s7-
      @user-Surya-sheaker-s7- 3 місяці тому

      @@chokin78 very confusing but we have to take protein in a moderate mode like 100gm are enough

  • @richardbrandt9086
    @richardbrandt9086 Місяць тому

    You're not going to total failure

  • @BullyBreaker
    @BullyBreaker 3 місяці тому +2

    Knowledge and practice stares the entire world in the face and 90% still get it wrong. Not sure if it’s ignorance or being stupid, or both quite frankly. Even though it’s for everyone, still It’s not for everyone if they don’t want it. Lift and recover well 😤🙏🏾

  • @rob1279
    @rob1279 3 місяці тому +3

    Tge best results i ever had, gained strength and size in a shorter than previously was doing 5X5 on compound lifts.
    Another sure winner is consistent dedication, while serving time i saw people in some prison gyms people who would be called fake nattys because they where jacked, especially a couple of black guys stand out, 1 was a chronic crackhead ffs lol.
    In prison i lived for the gym, it was my moment of freedom, i know this because if out the blue a screw came and found me in the gym and said were setting you free, id of finished up my session. In nearly 30 ive never walked out feeling like i had not adequately put the time and effort in.
    Peace all, look after each other.