@@madanotap6492 Well, Eighth was the Doctor for longer than any other Doctor, from 1996 to 2005, so he had more time to suffer! ;-) (McCoy and McGann did the math, McCoy's run (Sept 7, 1987 to May 12, 1996 = 3,170 days) was *slightly* shorter than McGann's run (May 12, 1996 to March 26, 2005 = 3,240 days), or so they've both said at conventions!)
@@CritterKeeper01 Well to be fair, when people say "he was the Doctor" its not true.... yes they are no longer on screen, but all of them (exapt Smith and Capaldi at this point) doing stuff on Big Finish. So technicaly, Tom Baker is the longest 1974- present. He also equals Leonard Nimoy for the longest portrail of a single role, with 47 years, this year.
I hope the Doctor Who Expanded Universe eventually explains where that "magic" oil that transformed Bill and Heather came from. P.S. I love the Lumiat! I hope we see more stories about her someday.
I do like how it sorta justifies the weird regression in the master's personality, although there are still some questionable things about that whole debacle
I'd also include some of the crazy lore from stuff like Lungbarrow. In addition, Aliens Among Us is a great continuation of Torchwood and people who don't listen to it are missing out.
Tv only fans please please Listen to Spare Parts,Holy Terror and Master They are all free on spotify and dont require much background. Then follow 6/evelyn or 8/charley stories in order. Chimes of Midnight and Scherzo are both in my top 5 favorite dr who stories ever.
I say try to follow as many 8th Doctor audios as possible. The 8th Doctor is my favorite Doctor cause his audios are so good and Paul McGann gives an excellent performance over the 20 years he has played the Doctor. Also it's cool to see an evolution of his incarnation cause he changes a lot and it was very unique to see an incarnation of a Doctor change over time. Usually an incarnation of the Doctor only has one personality but the 8th Doctor we see at the beginning is not the same 8th Doctor we see by the end and it's due to the events that happened throughout the audios that change him. Also the 8th Doctor was the first Doctor to experience the TIme War and the way he handles everything was cool to hear. I highly recommend Paul McGann cause he will become one of your favorite Doctors cause of the audios.
Yes and Capaldi too. I can't believe the 11th Doctor has been gone for so long. 8 years it has been almost 9 but it feels like it was only last year when the time of the Doctor aired. Damn time flies by fast.
So much of this video was awesome, I can't even begin to say the bits I liked. I will, however, give props for showing Sir Derek as Chorus in Kenneth Branagh's most excellent "Henry V". If y'all haven't seen it, go find it right now and watch it. (Top of the credits go to a very young Christian Bale, lol.)
I hope the folk at Big Finish paid you well for this extremely enticing 12 minute advert! If not then get on to them. I know I've added a couple of things to my shopping list...
You forgot to mention the most important part of Series 3 of The Diary of River Song: Kovarian actually _does_ succeed in killing the Doctor! At least she temporarily does anyway. She then goes onto realize what a terrible mistake killing him is as entire stars suddenly start to blink out of existence, since all the worlds the Doctor would go onto save and the evil he would thwart in various periods of time prior to their current point of time was suddenly undone when they killed him.
I recently read Supremacy of the Cybermen, it's fantastic. I think Series 12 certainly took some ideas from it. I've also downloaded "I Davros", but not got around to listening to it yet. I keep meaning to pick up Engines of War, but I always come up with something else to buy first 😂.
If Matt Smith ever joins Big Finish I'm hoping for a series of the two of them travelling. We know that they did for a while, because of the postcards they sent Amy and Rory.
Whoa! I remember that as soon as Sarah Jane left the TARDIS, she turns to watch. As it fades out, there behind the TARDIS is K9. The Doctor had left K9 behind. I always wondered why he left K9 behind the TARDIS and out of sight! What would K9 have done if Sarah Jane had just walked away without turning back?
I had a thought about rasilon, I think if the Doctor had not forced Rasilon of Gallifrey then maybe the Master might not have been able to destroy the world and become the Hybrid and save all Gallifrey. Well in my head cannon anyway
Goodness, how do you put all the kinds of media/books/ etc together and keep up?? Which, maybe it doesn't matter since its a timey thing, but good grief. i know its probably obvious to a long time STAN, (Whovian?), and I am a baby as far as this goes. But once you are in, you always want to go deeper and "study" more. Seems like the really successfull shows/franchises, have a whole universe of things and shows and different forms of media and that may be hard for fans that can't absorb certain media/books. Not complaining. Just wondering how people do it. I am a little older, but I got started with what I think you said was the 2005 restart. Now rewatching on my son's DVD collection (since I had to watch back then when on TV and missed a lot). I am hoping some of these longer episodes, mvies, will be in that set. Other than wantiing to see how Sarah Jane started and supposedly came to love the Dr, I really don't want to go back because they look so silly compared to the ones now (I may be wrong since what I watch of the modern ones looks silly to hubby - yet he adores Starship Troopers, I don't get it). i am just rambling and sounding like an idiot to any long time fans that may read, lol. Just don't know how those that aren't into all media keep up, and that movie with al the Drs, is it in any of the sets? Blessings!!
Welcome aboard the mad ride that is Dr Who! Short answer, its virtually impossible to keep up, unless you are extremely rich and have a lot of free time. Dr Who comics, novels and audio adventures go back almost as far as the tv show's origin in the 60s. I personally have just dabbled in what I can over the years. I'm not rich! I recommend getting yourself subscriptions on britbox and spotify. Britbox has all of classic who including the 8th doctor movie and the 2 non canon 60s dalek movies. You'll find the 5 doctors anniversary special in amongst them. And if you can forgive the dated sfx there is a lot of great stories in classic who. On spotify you'll find a lot of big finish playlists. Just search big finish doctor who. Though you will need to also find a chronological list elsewhere as they are quite randomly placed and it will get confusing otherwise.
@@RustyDalek72 LOL! So easy peasy, haha. Thankyou so much! I don't know if I could push thru the old ones or not (forgive me), but I would atleast like to find a way to summarize all the past Drs/or seasons to get a glimpse of whats behind where I am at now, if that makes sense. Also, is Torchwood necessary to be a part of it? I ask because I've liked Jack in the episodes I've seen of him, but years ago when it came out, I started watching it, but my mind was quickly a little too innocent for it back then. Many blessings!
The spin offs need to show Clara & Me which leads to: The regular series getting a new season with Capaldi & Clara ripping dream crabs off their faces to finally awaken from the nightmare.
Speaking of spinoffs and K9 I rather enjoyed the Australian K9 series, even if rights issues meant Mark 1 had to regenerate with new abilities, like flying so the cast doesn't have to carry him so often.
Sacha Dhawan's Master was pure evil too. They are equally evil and equally my least favourite Masters. John Simm's Master and Missy thoroughly entertained. It might be because they had more dimensions, some endearing qualities would peep out now and then.
Big Finish: Missy talks to someone, explaining what the War-Master did (you have to imagine it, because audio) she points to Darek Jacobi "Thats because the universe was blown up, by Gandalfs husband, over there!" Thx Big Finish for this quote :)
Also that spinoff may have saved the earth in jounerys end because yeah k9 was able to send the tardis Base codes to Mr Smith to fly the earth back to where it belongs.
They also visited young davros in the war master antigenisis because the master pretended to be a relative and the bombing instead of injuring him killed him fully and the master took over the dalek project.
dont like the idea of any master coming after missy. She completed the characters arc beautifully and was an excellent final portrayal. dwan comes before simm
You missed out on the expanded media where the 11th doctor goes back to 1963 when 1st was delivering the hand of omega. 11th tampers with the chameleon circuit so that the TARDIS stays as a police box
Couldn't agree more, out of everything that annoyed me in season 12 the masters 'revival' with no mention as to why their back to being evil is very high up there
To be fair, we never get explanations for how the Master survives. He burst into flames in Planet Of Fire and still came back. But I agree in the sense that it’s different this time, because of Missy’s redemption arc.
@@danthemeegs8751 it wouldn't have bothered me the master surviving if chibnall hadn't thrown away everything Steven moffat had created, but who knows maybe he hasnt, maybe he has a plan that we don't know about yet haha 😁
“The terrifying dictator the Time War creates of Rasslion one” AH but does it ? The 5 Doctors implies that Rasslion could have been good but also the Time Lords could have revolved against him
But... Rassilon wasn't actually dead in the 5 Doctors. He was in the same pseudo-death stasis that the greedy time lords what had sought immortality were put in. "Rassilon knew immortality was a curse." - The Doctor. Don't remember which one. The heavy implication was that "because he was." And Rassailon did, you know, SPEAK. Kind of tough for a dead guy. Though I suppose that could be some "Matrix" shenanigans. But it was supposed to be him.
Huh? Gomez Master wasn't good right away. It took three seasons to get there. At the start of her arc, she was a continuation of Simm's evil Master. On the other hand, we went straight from Good Gomez to Bad Dhawan with no onscreen explanation.
probably because that is the first spin off that succeed in getting picked up it was given 4 seasons. while k9 and company only had one episode to its name. it was lost and forgotten amongst all the other shows that were only given one episode before being abandoned by their makers.
Already read the comic where Salamander returns and Supremacy of the Cybermen, also heard of the Lumiat when everyone was complaining about Missy's arc being pointless now. Here's a moment you're missing: in "The Two Masters", we learn that the burnt Master became like this after a future incarnation (the bald one voiced by Alex McQueen) burnt him to pretend that he killed his past self to be allowed to join a cult that plans to recreate the universe.
As for the missy/master, how is this theory. He/she knows there should have not been another regeneration, so he goes to the place that the doctor was trapped in and was told she was the origin of the regeneration, BUT the truth was it was the master. He (now male again) decides he will punish his "old friend" (whom he learns had a hand it in before having his mind wiped of that knowledge) and pins the blame on the doctor.
This theory is simply wrong. As it sometimes is with theories. The Doctor is the Timeless Child, simply accept that. If you try to argue, that it's only the Master's words and he's well known to be unreliable source of information (in short a liar), then sure, he isn't trustworthy. But it's wrong to say it's only his word. People forget the Ghost Monument, where the Remnants (evil blanket monsters) also call the Doctor Timeless Child, even telling her, that they see all, even what's hidden from her (memory wipes, you know). That's two separate sources pointing towards the Doctor, the Remnants and the Master, one of them could lie, but not both. The Remnants operate on that level, they use your fear against you and the Doctor's fear may be something, that's even hidden from her.
So, random Time Lord tech that gives more regenerations? Why did he go through all that trouble in Deadly Assassin? Or takeover Counselor Tremas? Lazy writing to the extreme.
I don't count the lumiat it's just stupid and so is whittaker's era, also the comics and novels I don't particularly consider canon, maybe a loose canon, (heheh get it) but big finish I do consider canon to a point, there's some of bog finish I just don't consider canon either because of either poor writing, the characters being off, being really woke or any refernces/connections to whittakers era Also the timelord victorious thing I don't count that at all personally
I haven't seen any of the 13th Doctors episodes yet, as for the master I don't like looney bad guys, cool, calm calculating villains are the best. It's like the joker, can not stand him. A loon is just a loon, not interesting. Hopefully they will get rid of him or at tone him down. Missy was so much better than Sim
Lumiat gives such a BS reason for the Master to be bad again Series 12. Real life reason is Chibs is a bad writer and does not care for logic. Such a great arc in series 10 for the Master's character and it could of been expanded upon more in later seasons. There could of been a more frenimies vibe to the Master again like we had with Delgado but no he is now even more over the top than we have ever seen the Master before and just hates the Doctor all over again for a cartoonish reason. What could of been.
The lumiat is great though but also it makes sense as the master seems to be like the extreme end of insane that's its too much and the lumiat is the other extreme. She's too good.
you missed the Eighth Doctor, he had a full run before the Time War in expanded media.
And WOW does he not have a fun time with it. I’d honestly argue that 8 gets put through more suffering than any numbered doctor before or since.
@@madanotap6492 Well, Eighth was the Doctor for longer than any other Doctor, from 1996 to 2005, so he had more time to suffer! ;-)
(McCoy and McGann did the math, McCoy's run (Sept 7, 1987 to May 12, 1996 = 3,170 days) was *slightly* shorter than McGann's run (May 12, 1996 to March 26, 2005 = 3,240 days), or so they've both said at conventions!)
@@CritterKeeper01 Well to be fair, when people say "he was the Doctor" its not true.... yes they are no longer on screen, but all of them (exapt Smith and Capaldi at this point) doing stuff on Big Finish. So technicaly, Tom Baker is the longest 1974- present. He also equals Leonard Nimoy for the longest portrail of a single role, with 47 years, this year.
Yes and it expands on rassilon some more and how his evil secrets revealibg he was the most corrupt timelord
Eight also goes back for susan and has some stories with her in big finish some of his best stories
I hope the Doctor Who Expanded Universe eventually explains where that "magic" oil that transformed Bill and Heather came from. P.S. I love the Lumiat! I hope we see more stories about her someday.
Here’s the official explanation: Because Doctor Who xD
I do like how it sorta justifies the weird regression in the master's personality, although there are still some questionable things about that whole debacle
Its from the ship they become, its their fuel
I'd also include some of the crazy lore from stuff like Lungbarrow.
In addition, Aliens Among Us is a great continuation of Torchwood and people who don't listen to it are missing out.
amogus
AMONG US?!?!?!?!?!?!
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How did I never realize Timothy Dalton was Rassilon
It's proof that James Bond is a Time Lord.
He’s also the hedgehog in toy story 3!
@@danthemeegs8751 are you serious how do I keep missing him in things
@@antoniacosta6221 well to be fair... the hedgehog was animated!
Alcohol?
no mention for the return of adam from series 1? literally kidnaps every companion on his return
Yeah, well nobody likes Adam
i dont think thats really matt smith
I would love to hop in the TARDIS and 'meddle' in Doctor Who telly history to get these amazing stories filmed.
Favourite eu series is the oldest Big Finish series Bernice Summerfield. Favourite EU character is Irving Braxitel
Tv only fans please please
Listen to Spare Parts,Holy Terror and Master
They are all free on spotify and dont require much background.
Then follow 6/evelyn or 8/charley stories in order.
Chimes of Midnight and Scherzo are both in my top 5 favorite dr who stories ever.
Don’t forget the comics!
Read Supremacy of the Cybermen or the sapling trilogy or just any of them really!
I just got to the part about Supremacy of the Cybermen. Glad it’s being mentioned.
Spare Parts is my favourite Cybermen story of all time, including TV.
@@mrjoe5292 Mine too it was great seeing an origin for the cybermen and finally got to see Nyssa shine on her own instead of being in the background.
I say try to follow as many 8th Doctor audios as possible. The 8th Doctor is my favorite Doctor cause his audios are so good and Paul McGann gives an excellent performance over the 20 years he has played the Doctor. Also it's cool to see an evolution of his incarnation cause he changes a lot and it was very unique to see an incarnation of a Doctor change over time. Usually an incarnation of the Doctor only has one personality but the 8th Doctor we see at the beginning is not the same 8th Doctor we see by the end and it's due to the events that happened throughout the audios that change him. Also the 8th Doctor was the first Doctor to experience the TIme War and the way he handles everything was cool to hear. I highly recommend Paul McGann cause he will become one of your favorite Doctors cause of the audios.
Big Finish, CALL ME
Yes and Capaldi too. I can't believe the 11th Doctor has been gone for so long. 8 years it has been almost 9 but it feels like it was only last year when the time of the Doctor aired. Damn time flies by fast.
How were the Eighth Doctor audios not even mentioned?
The Big Finish back catalogue is so vast that lots of good stuff is bound to get left out
I don't know. Most of his audios are great. He is my favorite Doctor because of his audios.
I don't know
So much of this video was awesome, I can't even begin to say the bits I liked.
I will, however, give props for showing Sir Derek as Chorus in Kenneth Branagh's most excellent "Henry V". If y'all haven't seen it, go find it right now and watch it. (Top of the credits go to a very young Christian Bale, lol.)
Hi, I edited this video… thanks for the kind words! I love Henry V (I love most things by Branagh tbf), so that’s why I used that clip xD
I hope the folk at Big Finish paid you well for this extremely enticing 12 minute advert! If not then get on to them. I know I've added a couple of things to my shopping list...
Big Finish is low-key flush, they pay out that Tennant money like every five minutes!
You can add the big finish Jenny The Doctor’s Daughter adventure. It’s the first book but it’s very funny and amusing.
First book?
@@iain9757 yes. The second book will be available in few months.
My ginger cat is named Davros. It really fits him!
You forgot to mention the most important part of Series 3 of The Diary of River Song: Kovarian actually _does_ succeed in killing the Doctor! At least she temporarily does anyway. She then goes onto realize what a terrible mistake killing him is as entire stars suddenly start to blink out of existence, since all the worlds the Doctor would go onto save and the evil he would thwart in various periods of time prior to their current point of time was suddenly undone when they killed him.
It's SUCH an incredible series that does a perfect job of exploring River's relationship with Kovarian and her parents
I recently read Supremacy of the Cybermen, it's fantastic. I think Series 12 certainly took some ideas from it. I've also downloaded "I Davros", but not got around to listening to it yet. I keep meaning to pick up Engines of War, but I always come up with something else to buy first 😂.
Read engines of war immediately!
That is an order!
It’s a MUST read and iDavros is a MUST listen!
One of the best videos I saw. Thank you 🙏🏻 thank
When you think about it, Doctor Who mastered the shared universe concept on all forms of Media. Surprise there isn't any more movies.
OK, I’m fucking pissed they left Brian Williams behind
#JusticeForBrian
Well, he had to get back to reporting the news in NYC, so...?
If Matt Smith ever joins Big Finish I'm hoping for a series of the two of them travelling. We know that they did for a while, because of the postcards they sent Amy and Rory.
The new master probably the only good thing to come out of the chiball’s era
You mentioned the Gallifrey series omg you mentioned the Gallifrey series as a Gallifan I nearly regenerated thank you for this
You missed the fact that Derek Jacobi portrayed the master a few years before in the animated version with Richard E Grant as the 9th doctor
6:43 This enraged his father, who punished him severely
Whoa! I remember that as soon as Sarah Jane left the TARDIS, she turns to watch. As it fades out, there behind the TARDIS is K9. The Doctor had left K9 behind. I always wondered why he left K9 behind the TARDIS and out of sight! What would K9 have done if Sarah Jane had just walked away without turning back?
I had a thought about rasilon, I think if the Doctor had not forced Rasilon of Gallifrey then maybe the Master might not have been able to destroy the world and become the Hybrid and save all Gallifrey. Well in my head cannon anyway
top ten moments for each version of the doctor
Goodness, how do you put all the kinds of media/books/ etc together and keep up?? Which, maybe it doesn't matter since its a timey thing, but good grief. i know its probably obvious to a long time STAN, (Whovian?), and I am a baby as far as this goes. But once you are in, you always want to go deeper and "study" more. Seems like the really successfull shows/franchises, have a whole universe of things and shows and different forms of media and that may be hard for fans that can't absorb certain media/books. Not complaining. Just wondering how people do it. I am a little older, but I got started with what I think you said was the 2005 restart. Now rewatching on my son's DVD collection (since I had to watch back then when on TV and missed a lot). I am hoping some of these longer episodes, mvies, will be in that set.
Other than wantiing to see how Sarah Jane started and supposedly came to love the Dr, I really don't want to go back because they look so silly compared to the ones now (I may be wrong since what I watch of the modern ones looks silly to hubby - yet he adores Starship Troopers, I don't get it). i am just rambling and sounding like an idiot to any long time fans that may read, lol. Just don't know how those that aren't into all media keep up, and that movie with al the Drs, is it in any of the sets? Blessings!!
Welcome aboard the mad ride that is Dr Who!
Short answer, its virtually impossible to keep up, unless you are extremely rich and have a lot of free time. Dr Who comics, novels and audio adventures go back almost as far as the tv show's origin in the 60s.
I personally have just dabbled in what I can over the years. I'm not rich!
I recommend getting yourself subscriptions on britbox and spotify.
Britbox has all of classic who including the 8th doctor movie and the 2 non canon 60s dalek movies. You'll find the 5 doctors anniversary special in amongst them. And if you can forgive the dated sfx there is a lot of great stories in classic who.
On spotify you'll find a lot of big finish playlists. Just search big finish doctor who. Though you will need to also find a chronological list elsewhere as they are quite randomly placed and it will get confusing otherwise.
@@RustyDalek72 LOL! So easy peasy, haha. Thankyou so much! I don't know if I could push thru the old ones or not (forgive me), but I would atleast like to find a way to summarize all the past Drs/or seasons to get a glimpse of whats behind where I am at now, if that makes sense. Also, is Torchwood necessary to be a part of it? I ask because I've liked Jack in the episodes I've seen of him, but years ago when it came out, I started watching it, but my mind was quickly a little too innocent for it back then. Many blessings!
@@jenm473 torchwood seasons 1 and 2 are a mixed bag. 3 is excellent. 4 is.. a bit rubbish. But all a good watch if you love jack.
@@RustyDalek72 well you don’t have to be rich, you can also be a sailor of he seven seas.
@@shamsham1229 ARRR! This be true...
The spin offs need to show Clara & Me which leads to:
The regular series getting a new season with Capaldi & Clara ripping dream crabs off their faces to finally awaken from the nightmare.
Very interesting! Thank you.
I had no idea about the lumiat, thx so much!!
Just had flashbacks of the demon headmaster
Speaking of spinoffs and K9 I rather enjoyed the Australian K9 series, even if rights issues meant Mark 1 had to regenerate with new abilities, like flying so the cast doesn't have to carry him so often.
Someday I hope to listen to/read all of it. But we need mortals only have so much time (and money). 😊
Sacha Dhawan's Master was pure evil too. They are equally evil and equally my least favourite Masters. John Simm's Master and Missy thoroughly entertained. It might be because they had more dimensions, some endearing qualities would peep out now and then.
Big Finish:
Missy talks to someone, explaining what the War-Master did (you have to imagine it, because audio) she points to Darek Jacobi
"Thats because the universe was blown up, by Gandalfs husband, over there!"
Thx Big Finish for this quote :)
How very VICIOUS of her!
You missed what happened to Adam Mitchell after the events of the long game in a comic book called prisoners of time
Oh yeah that was... interesting
Also that spinoff may have saved the earth in jounerys end because yeah k9 was able to send the tardis Base codes to Mr Smith to fly the earth back to where it belongs.
They also visited young davros in the war master antigenisis because the master pretended to be a relative and the bombing instead of injuring him killed him fully and the master took over the dalek project.
dont like the idea of any master coming after missy. She completed the characters arc beautifully and was an excellent final portrayal. dwan comes before simm
You missed out on the expanded media where the 11th doctor goes back to 1963 when 1st was delivering the hand of omega.
11th tampers with the chameleon circuit so that the TARDIS stays as a police box
It's nice Big Finish cares about Missy story arc because chipnall doesn't
Couldn't agree more, out of everything that annoyed me in season 12 the masters 'revival' with no mention as to why their back to being evil is very high up there
To be fair, we never get explanations for how the Master survives. He burst into flames in Planet Of Fire and still came back. But I agree in the sense that it’s different this time, because of Missy’s redemption arc.
@@danthemeegs8751 it wouldn't have bothered me the master surviving if chibnall hadn't thrown away everything Steven moffat had created, but who knows maybe he hasnt, maybe he has a plan that we don't know about yet haha 😁
@@Val-xq4uq yeah I do wish Dhawan was a more direct continuation of Gomez. Maybe Chibs has a grand MASTERplan for Series 13
@@danthemeegs8751 love what you just did there 🤣🤣 can't really fault Sasha dhawan though he is a talented actor
“The terrifying dictator the Time War creates of Rasslion one”
AH but does it ? The 5 Doctors implies that Rasslion could have been good but also the Time Lords could have revolved against him
well yeah he was pretty nasty in The End Of Time/Hell Bent
@@danthemeegs8751 he didn’t do anything in Hell Bent apart from shouting
No rassilon has always been an evil dictator. Its the same in every other piece that involves him.
I thought the current master was a regeneration some time before Derek Jacobi!
No mention of the Star Trek cross over comic where the Cybermen and the Borg team up ?!
RIP Liz Sladen
this was awesome!
Hey, Will's doing this one, haven't seen him in a while!
But... Rassilon wasn't actually dead in the 5 Doctors. He was in the same pseudo-death stasis that the greedy time lords what had sought immortality were put in. "Rassilon knew immortality was a curse." - The Doctor. Don't remember which one. The heavy implication was that "because he was." And Rassailon did, you know, SPEAK. Kind of tough for a dead guy. Though I suppose that could be some "Matrix" shenanigans. But it was supposed to be him.
Wait. Is Sir Derek Jackaby the one who was in call of duty bo3 zombies? Looks just like him
I don’t think so
Before i even watch I want to say thank you for not making a 10 greatest I'm dead and I know it moments from Dr. Who. Resist the urge.
You haven’t watched all the recent videos on this channel, have you?
@@danthemeegs8751 Awww crap. Lol. I did see that one but forgot. I rescind my earlier praise. Thanks for pointing it out though. 👍
@@angbald lol no worries
Ooh! Interesting!
The Missy stuff always confused me because I never saw anyone complain Moffat ruined the Simm Master by making Gomez Master good ?
Huh? Gomez Master wasn't good right away. It took three seasons to get there. At the start of her arc, she was a continuation of Simm's evil Master.
On the other hand, we went straight from Good Gomez to Bad Dhawan with no onscreen explanation.
What he said.
The other thing that bothers me is the Doctor even commenting on the sudden loss of character development. Is that explained somewhere?
Wait if K9 and Company was Doctor Whos first spin off why does Harbo Wholmes think it was Torchwood ?
probably because that is the first spin off that succeed in getting picked up it was given 4 seasons. while k9 and company only had one episode to its name. it was lost and forgotten amongst all the other shows that were only given one episode before being abandoned by their makers.
Did anyone else get Rockroll'd during the ad?
Amy can't have children???? What about River Song?
She couldn't have children after river song due to something like being sterilised or whatever
Oh yess
Already read the comic where Salamander returns and Supremacy of the Cybermen, also heard of the Lumiat when everyone was complaining about Missy's arc being pointless now.
Here's a moment you're missing: in "The Two Masters", we learn that the burnt Master became like this after a future incarnation (the bald one voiced by Alex McQueen) burnt him to pretend that he killed his past self to be allowed to join a cult that plans to recreate the universe.
As for the missy/master, how is this theory. He/she knows there should have not been another regeneration, so he goes to the place that the doctor was trapped in and was told she was the origin of the regeneration, BUT the truth was it was the master. He (now male again) decides he will punish his "old friend" (whom he learns had a hand it in before having his mind wiped of that knowledge) and pins the blame on the doctor.
This theory is simply wrong. As it sometimes is with theories. The Doctor is the Timeless Child, simply accept that. If you try to argue, that it's only the Master's words and he's well known to be unreliable source of information (in short a liar), then sure, he isn't trustworthy. But it's wrong to say it's only his word. People forget the Ghost Monument, where the Remnants (evil blanket monsters) also call the Doctor Timeless Child, even telling her, that they see all, even what's hidden from her (memory wipes, you know). That's two separate sources pointing towards the Doctor, the Remnants and the Master, one of them could lie, but not both. The Remnants operate on that level, they use your fear against you and the Doctor's fear may be something, that's even hidden from her.
@@Croftice1 You assume they did not know that the master was not going to make that claim and knew it would harm the doctor.
Once again, y'all leave the Chibnall BS to the end of a list and I cannot be more grateful, makes it easier to skip. THANK YOU!
Haters gonna hate. Whatever gets you through your negative little life 🙄
Isn’t PS written by Chibnall
First comment ha ha (I don't actually care I just see so many people saying this) great video
Ten Internet cookies for you good sir!
**Biting a piece of toast** PROPER!
I would love a list about the characters that benefitted the most from the expanded universe
I don't consider the expanded media canon, a true fan would never think to read comics or listen to audio stories
So, random Time Lord tech that gives more regenerations? Why did he go through all that trouble in Deadly Assassin? Or takeover Counselor Tremas? Lazy writing to the extreme.
That’s cool but what I want to know is why did the master go into hiding anyone else
Big finish covers that in a really terrific story
Glad i heard of some of these. I wish the BBC would invest more in these concepts rather than repeating the same old concepts
I don't count the lumiat it's just stupid and so is whittaker's era, also the comics and novels I don't particularly consider canon, maybe a loose canon, (heheh get it) but big finish I do consider canon to a point, there's some of bog finish I just don't consider canon either because of either poor writing, the characters being off, being really woke or any refernces/connections to whittakers era
Also the timelord victorious thing I don't count that at all personally
I haven't seen any of the 13th Doctors episodes yet, as for the master I don't like looney bad guys, cool, calm calculating villains are the best. It's like the joker, can not stand him. A loon is just a loon, not interesting. Hopefully they will get rid of him or at tone him down. Missy was so much better than Sim
Lumiat gives such a BS reason for the Master to be bad again Series 12. Real life reason is Chibs is a bad writer and does not care for logic. Such a great arc in series 10 for the Master's character and it could of been expanded upon more in later seasons. There could of been a more frenimies vibe to the Master again like we had with Delgado but no he is now even more over the top than we have ever seen the Master before and just hates the Doctor all over again for a cartoonish reason. What could of been.
The lumiat is great though but also it makes sense as the master seems to be like the extreme end of insane that's its too much and the lumiat is the other extreme. She's too good.
This Lumiat business is trash and utter garbage! Just say Dhawan is between Simm and Gomez!
The lumiat is amazing.
Sarah Jane plus Eleventh Doctor equals wrong
Second
No New Who moment is worth seeing. It's garbage.
Its either nuwho or back to the wilderness, and I'd very very much prefer nuwho to just audiobooks and comics