Mm, that's a tricky one. Okay, here goes - 1, Don't give the writer job to a moron who doesn't have a clue. 2, if you're going to have more than one character in the TARDIS, develop them, don't let them stand about like shop window dummies. Ryan, Graham, and Yaz fit that bill because Chibby didn't know how to write their characters. 3, for the love of GOD, stop treating that stupid screwdriver as a magic fix-it because the writer's too lazy to come up with a better solution. 4, Stop running around. 5, Bring back more Time Lords. The Master is a boring waste of space. He gets dull very quickly. 6, MORE ALTERNATE TIMELINES AND TIME TRAVEL; ironically, we don't get many of them. Doctor Who could do with a multiverse tale featuring different Doctors. 7, The Timeless Child and Fugitive Doctors were poorly developed. Stop giving characters and not developing them. 8, When Flux was on, Storm and Azure were pointless. 9, Lay off the classic villains for a couple of seasons, and redesign the Cybermen to get rid of their current image. They were seen as big-silver robot people who were aimless in the classic series, and now they are aimless. 10, Be more imaginative with the villains. 11, What happened to the universe following the Flux???
@@robertfeld5829 I agree everything unless you’re implying retiring the Daleks as they are my favorite part of Doctor Who and honestly I want more of them grander scales, invasion sequences of both individuals in formation and fleets, new types, more power, more lore, etc. Also I’d say for bbc to return the funding for the Classic who complete series Blu-Rays, animated restorations of lost episodes we have the audio tracks for, and EAGLEMOSS COLLECTION FIGURINES
@@zaarthwren No, I don't mean retiring the Daleks for long, but give them a chance to be recharged. The Sontarans and Weeping Angels received that treatment, and they came back grander. I also think the Dalek Paradigm was handled poorly and needs to make sense.
Ellie touched on one of the great things about early Angels. I always thought that the reason we did not see them move was specifically BECAUSE they were on-screen. That is, they can't move when they are being watched, and WE were watching them.
Yep Annnnnnnd then Moffatt ruined that TOO within the same Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone episode with the whole "that which holds the image of an angel becomes itself an angel" which is scary only until you realize that your OWN TV isn't becoming a Weeping Angel like the one IN THE EPISODE...😵💫🙄😣 "Blink" works because the threat is kept *just* plausible enough to make you wonder if it is real. As you mentioned, when the Weeping Angels are seen on-screen, they don't move...same as when any of the characters themselves looks upon one of them. This makes you feel as though the Angels are being frozen even when YOU'RE looking at them, making this threat that surely HAS to be fictional feel...somewhat *less* fictional...and thus, more frightening...😬 "Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone", on the other hand, breaks...more like completely destroys...that immersion first by introducing that whole "image of an Angel" plotline (which one can clearly see ISN'T happening irl, making the threat already too obviously fictional) and then later by having that one Angel visibly move on-screen. Without that immersion, one becomes a simple observer with no investment within the story. We clearly see a video image of an Angel move on the TV screen within the episode as that TV holds the image of an Angel and has thus become one...but then, so is literally EVERY irl TV that people watched that episode ON and, to my knowledge and experience anyway, no one's irl TVs became Weeping Angels on the prowl sooooooooo....🤷 Add to that the Angel moving as we watch...so very clearly NOT affected by the viewers watching at home...and you now have a monster whose scariness THRIVED on that connection with the viewer now wholly DISCONNECTED from those same viewers and from there... Their threat became that of a paper tiger. One must find what works with these sorts of villains and stick to that... immersion was the core dynamic that worked for the Weeping Angels, much like the fascistic tendencies of the Daleks works as the core dynamic for them. Lose that and you risk losing the threat, simple as that.
@@christopheralthouse6378 To be fair, that "image of an Angel becomes and Angel" absolutely worked on me. To this day I can't bring myself to freeze-frame on the image of a Weeping Angel. Even a youtube thumbnail, or pausing a video for a few moments - I know it's ridiculous, but I always either close the tab or run the video a couple more seconds before pausing, just so they aren't on screen. But I agree with the point about them moving on screen. That pretty much ruined the concept.
@@christopheralthouse6378 I like the "image of an Angel" plot line because it makes those episodes MORE scary for me. Because even though I know in the back of my mind, it's fiction, every time an angel would appear on screen, I would get that boost of fear of "what if it comes through?" I think Moffat used that effect again with the Sleep monster and every time, I get that shot of adrenaline/heebie-jeebies that sticks with me for the next few episodes.
The thing I loved about Blink is that it got the audience involved. Even when noone else was looking, if the audience could see them, they couldn't move. It was a kind of immersive 4th wall break. When the angels moved, it broke that immersion.
I always assumed the angels were not actually made of stone, they just turn to stone when observed. For that reason I thot watching them move you would be able to see their gowns flowing or they might actually change color. The fact that they are still stone even when moving, despite the long explanation of a quantum lock during blink is just disappointing.
Could always retcon this episode with some wibbly wobbly mumbo jumbo, and then be like, "THESE are how the Angels without the Quantum Lock NORMALLY look."
If I remember reading correctly, the original angels were not stone but over time they started to take over statues themselves and become "stoney" so from then on they remain in the form they took over. Which is why the current angels we see are mostly stone when moving. Secondly I agree that for the audience, not seeing the angels move is much more scary, however, in the particular episode the doctor tells Amy she needs to move "like" she can see as to fool the angels but when she falls and flails around the angels start to question if they are even being looked at. So for the story I think that was a good decision, except the doctor was saying this on an open radio so it's stupid that the angels got fooled in the first place lol.
The reason that we didn't see Mels until "Let's Kill Hitler", was that time was rewritten. Actually, Amy's life got rewritten a LOT. First it was just her, her aunt, ...and the crack in her wall, then Rory never existed, then Rory came back ...as a plastic, Roman centurion. Then they rebooted the universe, and she had a mother, and a little father. It's not surprising that Mels wasn't shown earlier! Amy and Rory's timeline is a •mess•!!
The suggestion was to show Mels at the beginning of _The Impossible Astronaut_ , though. Maybe I'm forgetting something, but at what point between _The Impossible Astronaut_ and _Let's Kill Hitler_ was time/Amy's life rewritten? IIRC, the real reason Mels doesn't show up before LKH is because of production reasons: Series 6 was split into two halves, and Steven Moffat didn't even start writing _Let's Kill Hitler_ until well after _A Good Man Goes To War_ was shot. Nor was casting done before that time. This probably also explains why the scene from _The Wedding of River Song_ was greenscreened, instead of being filmed at the same time as the scene from _The Impossible Astronaut_ .
I’ve never had an issue with the Abzorbaloff episode because I got straight away that it was a comedy episode, it was being played for laughs, so I did.
They could've improved the Graham talk SO MUCH simply by, instead of having her say "I'm socially awkward and don't know how to deal with this", have her just put an awkward hand on his shoulder. It would have shown an attempt to comfort, while also SHOWING that she's socially awkward and they'd still get the effect of showing that even the Doctor doesn't always have the right words for the situation.
As far as the Doctor not going to see Joan, we both know that he doesn't "do" goodbyes very well, and if he's parting ways with someone he truly had feelings for, he's always afraid of being hurt, by seeing them again.
Not really. He revisited ROSE during the farewell tour, his most painful separation of all. So there was nothing stopping him from going to check in on Joan, even just from afar.
IIRC Joan didn’t like the doctor cause in her eyes he “took away the man she loved, wore his face and asked her to run away with him” she may not have said it but she may see the doctor as a monster and never wanted to see him again. Visiting her granddaughter might’ve him wanting to check up on her but knowing the hostility he possibly would have faced.
The only one I disagree with is number 1, sort of, I think visiting Joan Redfern would have been a mistake because it would have hurt her. I do agree that visiting the identical twin great granddaughter at a book signing also didn't make sense, but that may have been a bone thrown to the actress from a very good two-parter getting to be a part of the farewell tour.
Joan had a grand daughter, which implies at some point she had a daughter (possibly through marriage) and moved on from John Smith. Seeing her happy with someone else and raising a family would have been extremely painfully for The Doctor to see. If he made an appearance to her I doubt it would have been well recieved and he knew that.
On Joan: I think he stayed away because it would be too painful for both the Doctor and Joan. And he may have been aware of this book telling the tale from previous time travels. But mostly, I want that scene to exist as is, because Jessica Hynes played it PERFECTLY. She's not looking when he says to make it out to the Doctor. She says that "that's what he called himself" line, then it hits her. She pauses. Steels herself, then looks up. She just sold the hell out of that moment exactly right. There is a bit of a flaw in the scene, though... she's signing the book, but her pen never touches the page. It's about a half an inch above it.
As someone who remembers Patrick Troughton's Doctor, I was surprised to see the criticism of the Christopher Ecclestone "Dalek" episode title. Even though it was inevitable that we would see a Dalek, the Doctor's reaction to meeting the Dalek in that darkened room was completely unexpected and electrifying. The Doctor, suddenly terrified of a Dalek? When the episode was first shown, I'm not sure that the viewers had really been made aware of The Time War where the Doctor had consigned all Daleks to their fate, but the Doctor's terror of being confronted with a Dalek was excruciatingly real. That moment was incredibly powerful and that's what stands out for me from that episode, and I re-lived that moment when I saw it again on DVD many years later. I could understand if you had commented on the bit where the Dalek goes literally opens up for Rose and goes all gooey, but the initial reaction from the Doctor was so unexpected and visceral it was chilling.
The weeping angels were shown to move in 'blink' - the silhoutte moves and holds its human form. You can see why the doctor wouldn't visit Joan when she directly told him how much that would have hurt her.
I agree about Joan; it also would have wracked the Doctor too much. My initial thought was that it was a cop-out on the part of the show, but the truth is it was a realistic and very emotional cop-out on the part of the Time Lord.
I agree with the idea he avoided it due to the emotional pain on both sides, another reason but less likely could have been that maybe the Doctor and Joan had a closer encounter than we think and perhaps the Doctor is checking in on the history of his old flame while also observing his own descendant. Adds an added depth to the scene in my opinion. Not likely as it may be, as even 1 visit to a hospital would highlight the Doctors progeny as odd if they inherited the Dual Hearts but then again there are people in real life occasionally born with additional functional organs like a man with 3 lungs and a man with 5 kidneys, no one with 2 hearts to date unless conjoined twins as far as I'm aware though, but if there were someone with 2 hearts it may end up considered a freak birth defect rather than proof of intergalactic hanky panky.
"Flux" felt like it should have been a feature length film. Yes, refine to one antagonist for sure. Jack not dying was refreshing twist yet it did take something away from Jack.
Imagine Jack charging into a huge squad of Daleks fully expecting to die... and then he somehow defies even his own expectations and lives. A nice way to dodge killing him but doing so in a way that leaves even HIM in disbelief.
The Timeless Child could have worked, if it was revealed to have been The Master; the experimentation/testing done on them would have also added to reasons for his behavioral....concerns. Also how he has been able to continue to survive beyond his original regeneration limits so effectively.
Tbf it would have still worked with 13 (or 13 AND the Master both being the "timeless children") if it had been written better and if 13 (or both) had been taken from the future, brought into the past and they went through their respective regen cycles from 1st (and 1st master) to them now in the present. A better plot/explanation would have been the time lords only have one life (this is about 1000 or so years, so much longer than humans but still not forever) and after interfering in time and space, they create enemies and are facing extinction. So they go into the future, find the child/children and steal them, take them back to the past to harvest their regen abilities but only 13 and the Master survive the experiments and thus are the two timeless children that save the future of the time lords through regeneration. Their memories are wiped and they go to the academy together, raised as time lords, do their stuff etc etc and become who they are from first doctor/first master to present doctor/master. Technically, that doesn't disrupt canon as well all know both doctor and master were kids at some point as the 10th doctor mentioned it (and we saw young master too). They both obviously live oblivious of these memories until the master (Sacha) just happens to stumble upon it/tortures it out of the time lords after finding them. Granted, this would have probably had to have been done over the course of a full series much like the "prime minister/master" storyline. But at least it would have been a much more thought out and planned storyline than what we got. Throwing in a phrase like "the timeless child" and then giving us a hastily put together episode that is also mashed in with other things going on too. It would also account for no other mention of this information in previous series and could also explain the master's madness (possibly due to not being compatible with the time vortex) and also why the doctor ran away (subconsciously knowing they don't belong with the time lords but not knowing why)
I've been saying that for ages, god, you're so right!!! It ruined the idea of the doctor for me, as now it feels like every sacrifice of regeneration energy was sort of in vain.
the episode is called Timeless Children, which could mean that Timeless Child Bi-Generated in the past one of them became The Master other The Doctor would even make more sense I think.
@@ensaracar9608It should just be erased from canon and fkn burnt. They only did it so they could retcon the Dr into being every fkn race, colour and different genders multiple times and not a white British male the whole time to pander to woke bs. They tried to completely rewrite 60 years of Dr Who history and now that Disney owns it Dr Who is dead. The Dr getting told off for misgendering aliens. Piss off. What a load of utter bs. A lot of old fans like me couldn't give a shit about it now. I'd rather watch old eps with Tom Baker than the shit they're making now. What a fkn joke. Smh 🙄🤦♂💩💩🤮
I think the explanation for the Angels moving in Flesh and Stone is actually based on how the audience's eyes work with our brains to process visual information. Apparently our eyes sort of frame skip, and the slowness of the angel's movement is down to them moving in the instant we don't process. Their actual in-story movement is after all meant to be very fast.
I think the scene with Joan’s great granddaughter (or whatever she was), was actually the best scene in that episode. I thought it was perfect. The look on his face and the question “was she happy in the end?” told me he knew it would be too painful for her, and that he was still feeling incredibly guilty about the whole thing.
I think you're wrong about "Dalek". It was about suspense, not a twist. We knew what was down there, but the Doctor didn't. If it was all about the twist, it wouldn't be worth watching twice; knowing what is coming and seeing it dawn on the Doctor makes it rewatchable.
I think the problem with Moffat story's were that he changed direction of where he took his original ideas. The river song astronaut scene I believe was reshot because he changed his mind how that was going to be done, the paradigm daleks weren't followed through, and melody too was just a new idea he threw in. He made it quite jarring. Chibnall too is quilty of this with propping up the tooth face people then never hearing from them again.
Not visiting Joan is idk reasonable? She didn't actually know the real Doctor, she only knew John. Seeing him again would cause her pain and I don't think she would want to see him anyway. Obviously we know that its the same actress but I think he wanted to see someone close to her without actually seeing her in person.
I think he just wanted to know she did move on from the heartbreak he caused inadvertently. He got a bonus that came with heartache when she looked just like Joan.
@@danthemeegs8751 Yes, but doing the same with her would have taken away thematically and emotionally from when he visits Donna but can't interact with her.
It says a lot that the Paradigm Daleks have been improved by fan artworks and fan animations - especially in colours (one fan animation had a nice menacing black coloured Paradigm Dalek leading a force of bronze Daleks). It was a fan animation where you get to see the alternate weapon within the hatch at the back in use (something part of the design and plan but never used).
When it comes to the paradim daleks if they'd replaced the yellow and orange colours with black and grey and tone down the red I think it could have worked. As for Jack dying, that wasn't an issue for me, he doesn't have to die in every episode he's in, just cause you can do something doesn't mean that you should and nu who has a habit of overuseing everything, so for them to not do something is good. When it comes to flux, I'd say just give it the full run that it was intended to have. But outside problems prevented that. Considering that Moffat seems to be from the same school as jj abrams, mels would never have been shown before let's kill Hitler because that means actually knowing what they mystery box is when they begin writing it. But yeah it would have been a good idea to introduce her earlier. I didn't mind 13 responding to Graham that why, it humanised her doctor and maybe it could have been better if it were different but I also like how the doctor isn't an endless well of answers amd that sometimes they don't know what to say or how to make things better. Or just don't have a stupidly drawn out farewell tour because that was just awful.
I found the angels moving incredibly creepy, still gives me chills, with that blank stare. I took at as in-between their true form and stone form as they weren't sure if Amy could see.
For "don't show the weeping angels moving," how about "don't show the weeping angels at all?" They're just about the most absurd characters I've ever seen. It's already been shown all you have to do is face two of them toward each other and they're frozen in place. Likewise, if you have a bunch of them chasing you, turn the first couple around and let them and the rest following stare each other down. Also, I find it STUPID that no one, on any of their episodes has said, "blink one eye at a time." And, the best one is, The Doctor carries a sonic device which has been shown to produce VERY powerful sound waves. Sound causes vibrations which will crack stone, so the sonic should be able to eliminate the angels en masse, with relative ease.
Was the idea not very specifically that Mels *DIDN'T* grow up with Amy and Rory until their personal timeline was altered because of Mels? The Doctor mentioned having not heard of her before (and being confused by that), Mels said that they got to raise her after all. It was clearly an edit Mels made to their personal histories - why it was always that way for Amy and Rory but new for the Doctor in that crop circle scene in the field.
The bit with Joan is one thing I have to disagree with. I mean, Dalek could have been The Enemy, leaving it nice and ambiguous as to exactly who the title was referring, eg Van Statten, the Dalek, or even Adam (if he';d been written differently). However, with Joan, knowing how hard it was for her to give him up, it is easy to picture the Doctor not wanting to make her life any harder than he already knew it would be, 2 world wars, the great depression...I could go on. Having your past love suddenly pop back into your life, no matter how happy one is, would have derailed everything, so it was best to find out how her life turned out at one remove.
The mistake with the chonky daleks, was to make the reveal indoors with bright lighting and with a low ceiling room. They would have looked more impressive if they were shot outside. The outside light would have toned them down just enough to make them look bright but not toy-like
Yeah it really bothered me that the Grand serpent was not just Swarm in disguise - like it would have made a great deal of sense with the plot, and helped tie the stories together better. I was actually waiting for a scene where he transforms/disintegrates into Swarm, they even laid the groundwork for this by having Azure do the same early on in the arc. Like maybe Vinder mortally wounds him then he becomes Swarm. A five minute scene to tie everything together. The actors even have similar physicalities so it wouldn’t have been much of a stretch.
I think 10 visiting her granddaughter makes so much sense!! For the vast majority (until 11 told us he visited everyone) of his visit he stayed within the 21st century, meaning he wasn’t entirely sure how much time he had (assuming that the further in/back in time he goes the longer it takes) meaning he wouldn’t of been able to make it to see her.
Furthermore, it is without doubt that 10&9 were the most distancing given how fresh the time war was for them. The hurt 10 would have to face knowing that was yet again, another loss of love he had. Not to mention his own struggle with immortality and the life he could have had, where life would seem enjoyable and settled. Unlike life as a time lord, as he mentions to Jack on plenty of accounts. I think it was very psychologically necessary for the character of ten to play out his connection in this particular circumstance, to see a generation of the woman he once loved who only knows him in admiration rather than hurt, anger and resentment. When you look at it, in this regard it feel VERY NEVESSSARY and well done RTD 💋💋
Essentially this interaction took note of all the troubles the doctor faced • immortality • love • yearning of another life • yearning of a lack of responsibility • ability to feel human (emotionally) something that is ADMIRED across all newhu doctors
We really missed a good Arc between 9, 10 and 11 all knowing the future of Jack. In the Christmas of the Doctor just a nod we could've had the doctor remember a line from the Head of Bo about being alive longer than he imagined
Instead of faking the River Astronaut scene there could be a couple of possibilities. You could shoot "empty" scenes showing the backgrounds for later greenscreen replacement. Or have someone else in the suit with a green stocking over the face (which can be later keyed out and River keyed in via greenscreen).
I think the episode titled 'Dalek' should have been called 'Enemy Mine'. Would have fit the theme of the episode, and the opening with them seeing the classic Cyberman head would give a hint that it's a returning enemy but not which one. There are a lot of old Doctor Who enemies that could have been used.
I swear the whole River Song shoots the Doctor on the beach was so last minute and on the fly that that is why it was filmed later. No one will convince me that that was thought about back when The Impossible Astronaut was written. Sorry but if it was they'd have tried harder to either get back on location or do a better job at the green screen and the little details. Also for me 13 being "socially awkward" was just a massive cop out to avoid having a deep conversation about the "big C". It felt like Chibs wanted something really big to use as Graham's fear but then got near the end of the script and thought "oh, we can't talk about cancer in a family show" and so gave the Doctor the "socially awkward" line. Ngl if I'd voiced that kind of fear to a friend and they reacted that way, I'd probably never tell them anything again. If mentioning Cancer was such a "taboo" subject that Chibs should have picked a different fear for Graham. Personally, I think him seeing Ryan die and Grace telling him "you let him die, just like you let me die" would have been so chilling (but that's just my opinion) and then you could end it with 13 asking Graham if he's okay and Graham just saying "yeah, absolutely, Doc" and then trying to change the subject while 13 looks unconvinced
In the episode "Dalek" I love the easter egg throwback to the episode with Sylvester McCoy where the UK found out that even though Daleks could conquer the galaxy and be all powerful that they could after all climb stairs !!! (The Sun had a massive report on this the day afterwards after all, it was well known as I grew up that they couldn't climb stairs)
04:20 The f**k you say? These are my favorite version of the Daleks! I’m mad they were underused! I’m also mad they passed over green for the Dalek Scientist and made it orange instead.
What was better(or worse) about the wipping angels was that we see them like stone, because they are quantum locked to be like that when you are seeing them, but we didn't knew if they changed they apperance somehow when they moved. They could be some fleshy of some sort of shadows monsters that just turn into stone when something is looking at them. Seeing them move kust like a stone make them a LOT less scary. They became just a regular monster/alien. And their speed alse became a lot slower, considering what was show in their first episode.
The point about let's kill Hitler just reminds me of the scene when Amy says Rory is gay, Rory is like no I'm not and then just fully sprints out of the house 😂
I would assume that 10 not wanting to go and see Joan is to do with him not wanting to drag the past up again for her. If he already feels guilty, going back and seeing her again is just going to add to that since it’ll just remind her of all that, not to mention he’s then got to leave all over again. She’s likely moved on with her life since then. Why go back and dig the past back up again?
6:36 "Almost as if Chris Chibnel didn't know what to do with him." Here's a wild idea:Chibbers had NO CLUE what to do with ANY of the characters in Doctor Who: hero, villian, or bystander.
My fix would be changing the first ever serial, so that when Ian and Barbara are taken away in the TARDIS for the first time, they land on Skaro, so we can skip the 'Cave of Skulls' entirely. In my personal edit I made, it takes a lot longer for Susan to show up too, and all the extraneous stuff with the school is removed.
I think from World War Three's next time trailer, a good majority of fans already knew the Daleks would be back. However, it's not like they didn't do that point, see when the Macra, the Silurians, the Great Intelligence and the Ice Warriors (who also weren't revealed in their next time trailers) first appeared in the Revived Era. Although I don't have much to comment on most of the other points (I'm not sure I agree with them or not), I agree with what the other commentors have said about the last point; Joan didn't want to see the Doctor again because he reminded her of John, so why go and check up on someone who doesn't even want you to be within their proximity when you could see a present day descendant of theirs who you're not particularly on "You may leave" terms with?
The Grand Serpent and Azure should have been the main antagonist and be one and the same character. As in we see this Grand Serpent throughout the run but don't know his connection to Azure and then in a Red Skull from Captain America moment he rips off his skin to reveal he was Azure all along.
If you have a big returning guest star that's managed to stay hidden all through filming and not even the briefest rumour, don't stick a clip of them in the coming soon trailer at the start of series 10. Honestly, World Enough and Time was an incredible episode, but tell me it doesn't go from 9.5/10 all the way to 15/10 the second John Simm pulls off his mask and reveals himself IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS COMING. Having seen it in the trailer I managed to spot it the second he turned up on screen because I knew that he had to be in the story somehow. 2 Masters in the same episode had never been done before and there was honestly no other clue about it because everyone's focussed on the Mondasian Cybermen and the fact that Bill was shot minutes into her first season finale. John Simm did not need a trailer appearance.
If 10 visits Joan herself he runs the risk of hurting her again... or even hurting himself. It's hinted that he still has a sliver of love for her in his heart(s) when he asked her to come with him... if he just popped in and she's married with kids that sight could still hurt him. Visiting a descendant cushions the blow for everyone. It also legitimizes the stories Joan would've told her family.
It's also nice to show what became of her lineage. Her great granddaughter becomes an author well-off enough to be autographing her published stories of the Doctor's adventure from that specific event.
The child who designed the Abzorbaloff envisioned it as being the size of a bus, which probably would have made it seem more menacing too, if only because that size would have probably resulted in it being less humanoid in shape.
I want to edit out every scene in which Martha complains to some random person about how “in love” she is with the Doctor and how he doesn’t notice her. “Show, don’t tell” writers. Both Freema and David are more than good enough actors to convey those undercurrents through acting (and do, all the raw material is in fact there if you just edit out the dialogue). Leave in Jack saying “you too, huh?” to her when they meet, that’s enough text for that subtext. The constant overt statement in every episode makes an otherwise kickass character one-note and pathetic and is a disservice to one of the best seasons of the entire show.
I think this video would've been much better fixing bigger plot issues with Dr Who rather than small details in episodes. Small mistakes can be made, some of the bigger decisions that have slowly made the waters murkier are bigger issues for me. My personal issue is the idea that angels can teleport through pictures and videos, just feels a bit impossible to me and makes them a bit of a ridiculous enemy.
Honestly, Blink was so good, I would have been happy to not see the angels again. I don't think they were used well at all in Moffat's era, (that's just me, wonderful if you loved their storylines!). Also, did the angels have their eyes closed when they moved? We know that if they are looking at each other, they can't move.
The thing with the weeping angels that upset me was that it was said they turn to stone when they are seen I was really hoping that there would be this other form if you get what I mean when they aren’t seen?
With regards to #13, Graham is just another companion in a long history of companions. Furthermore with a list of 14 (added the War Doctor) personalities over (I think) over 2000 years. Sometimes the companions leave them, sometimes they leave the companions. (Stupid needing to use 3rd person pronouns now). They know to not get too attached because the unknown can happen. Rose is stuck in an alternate universe, Donna had her brain wiped, Martha’s family had to live through hell on Earth, Amy and Rory are in 1939 NYC, Clara is gallivanting in her own Tardis, Bill was turned into a cyberman, so following this trend why should Doctor #13’s companions be any different? Every time they get close to the companions something happens to get them separated. Not trying to be rude about the initial supposition and the fact I also have my favorite companions also gone. I do not think that despite the doctor having nearly infinite empathy for the strangers saved, those who enter the doctors inner circle are a bit too close.
Joan would never have wanted to see The Doctor, not even as an old woman. It would have caused her too much pain. Clearly she loved him, but in her mind, he wasn't the same man she fell in love with. That's why she wouldn't go with him. "John Smith is dead, and you look like him." And then she made the very valid point that, had The Doctor not chosen that place on a whim, no one would have died. It is possible to genuinely love and hate someone at the same time, and I think that's the case here.
The issue I have with 11th Doctor angels two parter was, the angels could see each other. They are WEEPING angels for a reason. They have to cover their eyes so that they couldn't possibly be looking at each other. The scene towards the end with all of them at the control room meant that the only ones that could move were the ones at the back of the crowd which meant they would have been frozen the moment they moved forward because the ones that were infringement of them were now behind them, looking at them.
What reveal in ‘Dalek’? The Dalek was on the front cover of the Radio Times, hard to keep THAT a secret. The reason behind it was that the BBC wanted the Daleks in episode one, but RTD said that it would be better mid-season to give the show a ‘second relaunch’.
I think that having the angels move would be more suited to only Angels Take Manhattan but at the same time, having recently learned of how they did the costumes and makeup for the angels, I don’t fully hate the scene because the costuming was seriously impressive
Also with regards to the weeping angels moving, it takes away so much of the fear when we see them move? It's hammered home that any image of one is an angel, blah blah... So if we can see them, someone can see them? I know it's not real obviously, but make it seem more real?
It’s my understanding that the book she was signing was the story of her grandmother also (this is just me trying to make what we got work) he thought her seeing him would corse more pain. I think the real reason was it was a quick scene that would be too expensive to do in period.
Ive always seen Mel's as the silence instructing River to insert herself retroactively into Amy and Rory's life's, and that's why there's no mention of her, yes there's flashbacks of them all but I just thought we were seeing Amy and Rory's life altered by Mel's,
Number one: why didn’t the Doctor go back and tear open those wounds again for Joan? Well gosh I think I just answered it right there but maybe I’ll continue. How would her granddaughter know if she in the end had a happy life? Well she did grow up knowing her grandmother who obviously found love again and married and had kids who then had kids. So maybe interacting with her grandmother she can fairly tell if she had a happy life or not.. Oh she also found and published her diary about the time with this mysterious doctor. So she does have some insight to it all, especially if her grandmothers diary was very detailed with her own intimate thoughts, which most diaries are. Edit: I also find it interesting and cool that the granddaughter now knows the story is real. Before the Doctor steps up to talk to her, we hear her say something like: well I don’t know if it’s true I found my grandmothers diary. But now she knows it wasn’t a fantasy or story her grandma came up with, it was true.
On the Angels: In many ways, I found that creepier that we saw them move this time. The only people seeing them is US. And we are seeing them via video, which has a Verticle Blanking Interval. Our observation of them effects them, so they are, in part aware of us. The Verticle Blanking interval, that slight moment between frames when they are not being observed allows them to move ever so slowly. Think about. It's really creepy.
And I thought Doctor visited Joan’s granddaughter bc she had literally just released a book entirely about Joan’s experience… which said granddaughter had written, therefore would be an honest & objective source for 10th doctor to find out. Because if he had travelled back in time to see Joan, it would prob stir shit up for Joan and cause further heartbreak, not to mention the possibility that she may have felt inclined to withhold the honest truth from him as to not make him feel more guilty or imply that she wasn’t thriving without him, so to speak. While I didn’t really like that the granddaughter looked exactly like her, I wasn’t put off by the fact that the doctor visited HER to try to find out about Joan. I dunno, that’s just me. (And the writer/director, etc lol)
At 8:18 Did some of you know there is a fan made audio drama called The lost solider based on the events before the episode Dalek. We follow the dalek before it ended up in Henry van stattern cell and ends when the 9th doctor discvoring it. if you have not listened i would recomend giving it a go
Please, make a list about *top 10 episode titles that gave us spoilers!* For instance, "Rise of the Cybermen", "The Sontaran stratagem", "Dalek", "Time of the Angels", "The Zygon invasion" and "Legend of the Sea Devils".
I mean, any title that's "(noun) of the (name of alien here)" is gonna be a spoiler. Unless it's the first time we meet that alien, like "Terror of the Zygons" where Zygons made their debut. Also "The Android Invasion" where the Doctor and Sarah spend two episodes wondering what's going on and we're all sitting there saying, "It's ANDROIDS. It's in the TITLE." Also also, there's something to be said for distinctive titles like that. There's one serial called "The Visitation," and the title gives zero hints on what it's about.
I'm new to WhoCulture, but really enjoying your videos. Thank you Do you have a video addressing why or how The Master went form helping The Dr. as Missy to trying to destroy The Dr. when played by Sacha Dhawan?
Hey, glad to have you with us! And yes, we recently discussed that subject in this video... 10 Doctor Who Controversies That Divide Fans: ua-cam.com/video/ghNHGvhSGAg/v-deo.html
Being on the TARDIS, shouldn't the companions, particularly the ones who continuously travel with the Doctor. Have access to TimeLord health-care? I'm sure there's a type of medical stuff that would heal them after they were injured! plus we saw with Rose, that they went to a hospital/medical centers before! I'm sure she or Jack got medical aid at one time or another!
for Redford I kind of understand because it's kind of implied she never wants to see him again. In a sense he's maintained that boundary and given her the space she needed while also learning her fate.
Tbh i think that the difference between the two impossible astronaut scenes (apart from literal different mountains (seriously?)in the same place) can be easily written off as a way to give early pointers to fans that something had changed with river song between the first impossible astronaut scene and the second one.
I love the series so much and I've been following along with it since it was on PBS when I was a kid in the '80s. But when the doctor regenerated and it wasn't that pretty black lady that felt like a mom and a teacher all at once I was done I couldn't deal with that Jodi lady
-ditch the whole "in the future people we wear the same clothes as now" trope-recent incarnations of the Star Trek franchise and The Orville have shown you can have people in the future wearing futuristic clothes without the whole "in the future people will wear silver togas" route -visit some alien civilisations, again you don't need to do the whole "silver toga" thing as franchises like Farscape have shown
The Scene between 13 and Graham needed just a simple touch, and a sentence like, "I don't know. I can't control everything. But I promise you, you won't be alone."
I’ve got three other fixes for Doctor Who. 1. Have the 10th Doctor stay silent during his Regeneration. Him saying “I don’t want to go” honestly removes the impact of his sacrifice to save Wilf and the way Tennant said it is honestly a bit cringe worthy and paints the 10th Doctor as a bit of a coward and wimp. 2. Keep Clara dead after Face the Raven. The Doctor bringing Clara back to life in Hell Bent completely destroyed her admittedly well done death in Face the Raven, removes all consequence of Clara being reckless and makes Heaven Sent pointless as The Doctor had no grief to overcome. 3. DO NOT make the Doctor The Timeless Child. An inter dimensional alien child being responsible for the creation of Time Lord Society and giving Time Lords easy access to Regeneration? Fine. The Doctor having Pre-Hartnell incarnations? I’m also okay with that. However the problem was that the Doctor was both. Sending tidal waves across Doctor Who lore and also being an incredibly cliche trope of the main character being super important. Another reason why I gave Rey a Palpatine in The Rise of Skywalker such a hard time. My fix would be to have the Doctor and Timeless Child be two separate people. The Doctor could have been an agent working for Division assigned to take care of the Child. However the Doctor soon assists the Child with escaping Gallifrey and due to the Time Lords hunting him down for that, he steals a Tardis with his granddaughter, Susan, and as soon as they leave Gallifrey, the Doctor uses a Chameleon Arch to wipe out any memory he has of the Child and Susan gets rid of the Fob Watch as soon as the procedure was done.
I always got the impression the reason he went to Joan’s grand daughter rather than the real deal was because he was scared of disappointing or being seen by her but still wanted some closure
I do agree with the Number 1 pick... The reason why he did not go back to see her with the TARDIS is quite simply explained... There are two reasons - One we have been told by the show itself numerous times, The TARDIS being semi sentient probably would not allow it... but additionally, I also think it hints that he had in fact fallen in love, Just as he had with Rose... He was still reeling about losing Rose in the way he did so seeing Joan at any point in her life, even as an old woman, it was simply too painful. We have been shown that the Doctor does not fall in love easy, but when he does he falls HARD... and while I have obviously created this head canon to explain why he did not do any of that... Even if hat was the reasoning they had planned, they did not explain it well making everything feel kind of "Out of Place" If they had maybe shown that the Doctor struggled with that part of his life, Even just looking at Pictures of Rose and Joan in the TARDIS, It could have conveyed his deep feelings... How while he was hidden as a Human he had again fallen in love but it was a love that was impossible to realise... Joan would die, They all die! He could not face it again! It could have been done so subtlety and easily and would have made that scene work... Audiences dont need to be told "The Doctor is in Pain because he fell in love" - We have seen it already, We are intelligent enough to spot a subtle clue like that! The old rule of "Show Dont Tell"
I loved the paradigm daleks they had to stand out as the alite stand alone not just another dalek dalek, these were the thinkers the one's who thought outside the box
If you could apply one simple fix to any episode of Doctor Who, what would it be?
Give 12 his sonic in series 8
Not treating the Sonic Screwdriver as some magic wand.
Mm, that's a tricky one.
Okay, here goes -
1, Don't give the writer job to a moron who doesn't have a clue.
2, if you're going to have more than one character in the TARDIS, develop them, don't let them stand about like shop window dummies. Ryan, Graham, and Yaz fit that bill because Chibby didn't know how to write their characters.
3, for the love of GOD, stop treating that stupid screwdriver as a magic fix-it because the writer's too lazy to come up with a better solution.
4, Stop running around.
5, Bring back more Time Lords. The Master is a boring waste of space. He gets dull very quickly.
6, MORE ALTERNATE TIMELINES AND TIME TRAVEL; ironically, we don't get many of them. Doctor Who could do with a multiverse tale featuring different Doctors.
7, The Timeless Child and Fugitive Doctors were poorly developed. Stop giving characters and not developing them.
8, When Flux was on, Storm and Azure were pointless.
9, Lay off the classic villains for a couple of seasons, and redesign the Cybermen to get rid of their current image. They were seen as big-silver robot people who were aimless in the classic series, and now they are aimless.
10, Be more imaginative with the villains.
11, What happened to the universe following the Flux???
@@robertfeld5829 I agree everything unless you’re implying retiring the Daleks as they are my favorite part of Doctor Who and honestly I want more of them grander scales, invasion sequences of both individuals in formation and fleets, new types, more power, more lore, etc.
Also I’d say for bbc to return the funding for the Classic who complete series Blu-Rays, animated restorations of lost episodes we have the audio tracks for, and EAGLEMOSS COLLECTION FIGURINES
@@zaarthwren No, I don't mean retiring the Daleks for long, but give them a chance to be recharged. The Sontarans and Weeping Angels received that treatment, and they came back grander. I also think the Dalek Paradigm was handled poorly and needs to make sense.
Ellie touched on one of the great things about early Angels. I always thought that the reason we did not see them move was specifically BECAUSE they were on-screen. That is, they can't move when they are being watched, and WE were watching them.
Yep
Annnnnnnd then Moffatt ruined that TOO within the same Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone episode with the whole "that which holds the image of an angel becomes itself an angel" which is scary only until you realize that your OWN TV isn't becoming a Weeping Angel like the one IN THE EPISODE...😵💫🙄😣
"Blink" works because the threat is kept *just* plausible enough to make you wonder if it is real. As you mentioned, when the Weeping Angels are seen on-screen, they don't move...same as when any of the characters themselves looks upon one of them. This makes you feel as though the Angels are being frozen even when YOU'RE looking at them, making this threat that surely HAS to be fictional feel...somewhat *less* fictional...and thus, more frightening...😬
"Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone", on the other hand, breaks...more like completely destroys...that immersion first by introducing that whole "image of an Angel" plotline (which one can clearly see ISN'T happening irl, making the threat already too obviously fictional) and then later by having that one Angel visibly move on-screen. Without that immersion, one becomes a simple observer with no investment within the story. We clearly see a video image of an Angel move on the TV screen within the episode as that TV holds the image of an Angel and has thus become one...but then, so is literally EVERY irl TV that people watched that episode ON and, to my knowledge and experience anyway, no one's irl TVs became Weeping Angels on the prowl sooooooooo....🤷 Add to that the Angel moving as we watch...so very clearly NOT affected by the viewers watching at home...and you now have a monster whose scariness THRIVED on that connection with the viewer now wholly DISCONNECTED from those same viewers and from there...
Their threat became that of a paper tiger.
One must find what works with these sorts of villains and stick to that... immersion was the core dynamic that worked for the Weeping Angels, much like the fascistic tendencies of the Daleks works as the core dynamic for them. Lose that and you risk losing the threat, simple as that.
Loveit.
And thar's why Village of the angels is a better use of them (and probably one of the best episode of Flux)
@@christopheralthouse6378 To be fair, that "image of an Angel becomes and Angel" absolutely worked on me. To this day I can't bring myself to freeze-frame on the image of a Weeping Angel. Even a youtube thumbnail, or pausing a video for a few moments - I know it's ridiculous, but I always either close the tab or run the video a couple more seconds before pausing, just so they aren't on screen.
But I agree with the point about them moving on screen. That pretty much ruined the concept.
@@christopheralthouse6378 I like the "image of an Angel" plot line because it makes those episodes MORE scary for me. Because even though I know in the back of my mind, it's fiction, every time an angel would appear on screen, I would get that boost of fear of "what if it comes through?" I think Moffat used that effect again with the Sleep monster and every time, I get that shot of adrenaline/heebie-jeebies that sticks with me for the next few episodes.
The thing I loved about Blink is that it got the audience involved. Even when noone else was looking, if the audience could see them, they couldn't move. It was a kind of immersive 4th wall break. When the angels moved, it broke that immersion.
I always assumed the angels were not actually made of stone, they just turn to stone when observed. For that reason I thot watching them move you would be able to see their gowns flowing or they might actually change color. The fact that they are still stone even when moving, despite the long explanation of a quantum lock during blink is just disappointing.
100% this and I didn't even realise that's why I had a low-lying dislike of it. Now seeing them without the quantum lock... would have been special.
OMG you’re both right. If they’d looked like proper angels...
Could always retcon this episode with some wibbly wobbly mumbo jumbo, and then be like, "THESE are how the Angels without the Quantum Lock NORMALLY look."
I’d prefer if we never saw them move at all. They’re scarier if you don’t know what they look like when you’re not looking at them.
If I remember reading correctly, the original angels were not stone but over time they started to take over statues themselves and become "stoney" so from then on they remain in the form they took over. Which is why the current angels we see are mostly stone when moving.
Secondly I agree that for the audience, not seeing the angels move is much more scary, however, in the particular episode the doctor tells Amy she needs to move "like" she can see as to fool the angels but when she falls and flails around the angels start to question if they are even being looked at. So for the story I think that was a good decision, except the doctor was saying this on an open radio so it's stupid that the angels got fooled in the first place lol.
The reason that we didn't see Mels until "Let's Kill Hitler", was that time was rewritten.
Actually, Amy's life got rewritten a LOT.
First it was just her, her aunt, ...and the crack in her wall, then Rory never existed, then Rory came back ...as a plastic, Roman centurion. Then they rebooted the universe, and she had a mother, and a little father.
It's not surprising that Mels wasn't shown earlier! Amy and Rory's timeline is a •mess•!!
The suggestion was to show Mels at the beginning of _The Impossible Astronaut_ , though. Maybe I'm forgetting something, but at what point between _The Impossible Astronaut_ and _Let's Kill Hitler_ was time/Amy's life rewritten?
IIRC, the real reason Mels doesn't show up before LKH is because of production reasons: Series 6 was split into two halves, and Steven Moffat didn't even start writing _Let's Kill Hitler_ until well after _A Good Man Goes To War_ was shot. Nor was casting done before that time.
This probably also explains why the scene from _The Wedding of River Song_ was greenscreened, instead of being filmed at the same time as the scene from _The Impossible Astronaut_ .
I’ve never had an issue with the Abzorbaloff episode because I got straight away that it was a comedy episode, it was being played for laughs, so I did.
They could've improved the Graham talk SO MUCH simply by, instead of having her say "I'm socially awkward and don't know how to deal with this", have her just put an awkward hand on his shoulder. It would have shown an attempt to comfort, while also SHOWING that she's socially awkward and they'd still get the effect of showing that even the Doctor doesn't always have the right words for the situation.
As far as the Doctor not going to see Joan, we both know that he doesn't "do" goodbyes very well, and if he's parting ways with someone he truly had feelings for, he's always afraid of being hurt, by seeing them again.
👆This.
Exactly. I'm 100% sure they knew this, but just put it in anyway for content/because they needed a point on the list/to create viewer engagement.
Agreed - plus this was likely less painful.
Not really. He revisited ROSE during the farewell tour, his most painful separation of all. So there was nothing stopping him from going to check in on Joan, even just from afar.
IIRC Joan didn’t like the doctor cause in her eyes he “took away the man she loved, wore his face and asked her to run away with him” she may not have said it but she may see the doctor as a monster and never wanted to see him again. Visiting her granddaughter might’ve him wanting to check up on her but knowing the hostility he possibly would have faced.
The only one I disagree with is number 1, sort of, I think visiting Joan Redfern would have been a mistake because it would have hurt her. I do agree that visiting the identical twin great granddaughter at a book signing also didn't make sense, but that may have been a bone thrown to the actress from a very good two-parter getting to be a part of the farewell tour.
Joan had a grand daughter, which implies at some point she had a daughter (possibly through marriage) and moved on from John Smith.
Seeing her happy with someone else and raising a family would have been extremely painfully for The Doctor to see.
If he made an appearance to her I doubt it would have been well recieved and he knew that.
I liked the scene with Joan's granddaughter. You get the sense that maybe the thought of seeing Joan again was simply too painful for him to handle.
The Doctor often mentions that he/she lives on while everyone else dies, having shorter lives than a Time Lord/Lady.
The doctor dosnt like endings
And painful for her as well
I came here to make the same point.
Thank you! Exactly! I totally agree.
On Joan: I think he stayed away because it would be too painful for both the Doctor and Joan. And he may have been aware of this book telling the tale from previous time travels. But mostly, I want that scene to exist as is, because Jessica Hynes played it PERFECTLY. She's not looking when he says to make it out to the Doctor. She says that "that's what he called himself" line, then it hits her. She pauses. Steels herself, then looks up. She just sold the hell out of that moment exactly right.
There is a bit of a flaw in the scene, though... she's signing the book, but her pen never touches the page. It's about a half an inch above it.
Agree completely
As someone who remembers Patrick Troughton's Doctor, I was surprised to see the criticism of the Christopher Ecclestone "Dalek" episode title. Even though it was inevitable that we would see a Dalek, the Doctor's reaction to meeting the Dalek in that darkened room was completely unexpected and electrifying. The Doctor, suddenly terrified of a Dalek? When the episode was first shown, I'm not sure that the viewers had really been made aware of The Time War where the Doctor had consigned all Daleks to their fate, but the Doctor's terror of being confronted with a Dalek was excruciatingly real. That moment was incredibly powerful and that's what stands out for me from that episode, and I re-lived that moment when I saw it again on DVD many years later.
I could understand if you had commented on the bit where the Dalek goes literally opens up for Rose and goes all gooey, but the initial reaction from the Doctor was so unexpected and visceral it was chilling.
The weeping angels were shown to move in 'blink' - the silhoutte moves and holds its human form.
You can see why the doctor wouldn't visit Joan when she directly told him how much that would have hurt her.
I agree about Joan; it also would have wracked the Doctor too much. My initial thought was that it was a cop-out on the part of the show, but the truth is it was a realistic and very emotional cop-out on the part of the Time Lord.
she said he should have stalked her. ok it sounds bad that way but YKWIM.
I agree with the idea he avoided it due to the emotional pain on both sides, another reason but less likely could have been that maybe the Doctor and Joan had a closer encounter than we think and perhaps the Doctor is checking in on the history of his old flame while also observing his own descendant.
Adds an added depth to the scene in my opinion.
Not likely as it may be, as even 1 visit to a hospital would highlight the Doctors progeny as odd if they inherited the Dual Hearts but then again there are people in real life occasionally born with additional functional organs like a man with 3 lungs and a man with 5 kidneys, no one with 2 hearts to date unless conjoined twins as far as I'm aware though, but if there were someone with 2 hearts it may end up considered a freak birth defect rather than proof of intergalactic hanky panky.
I thought most of these would be nitpicking, but they were all really good points with great solutions.
"Flux" felt like it should have been a feature length film. Yes, refine to one antagonist for sure. Jack not dying was refreshing twist yet it did take something away from Jack.
A feature length film about a train wreck maybe.
And no, I don’t hate Chibnall. I liked a lot of what he did.
But not flux.
Especially since in one Torchwood story he gets killed multiple times.
Imagine Jack charging into a huge squad of Daleks fully expecting to die... and then he somehow defies even his own expectations and lives.
A nice way to dodge killing him but doing so in a way that leaves even HIM in disbelief.
The Timeless Child could have worked, if it was revealed to have been The Master; the experimentation/testing done on them would have also added to reasons for his behavioral....concerns. Also how he has been able to continue to survive beyond his original regeneration limits so effectively.
Tbf it would have still worked with 13 (or 13 AND the Master both being the "timeless children") if it had been written better and if 13 (or both) had been taken from the future, brought into the past and they went through their respective regen cycles from 1st (and 1st master) to them now in the present. A better plot/explanation would have been the time lords only have one life (this is about 1000 or so years, so much longer than humans but still not forever) and after interfering in time and space, they create enemies and are facing extinction. So they go into the future, find the child/children and steal them, take them back to the past to harvest their regen abilities but only 13 and the Master survive the experiments and thus are the two timeless children that save the future of the time lords through regeneration. Their memories are wiped and they go to the academy together, raised as time lords, do their stuff etc etc and become who they are from first doctor/first master to present doctor/master. Technically, that doesn't disrupt canon as well all know both doctor and master were kids at some point as the 10th doctor mentioned it (and we saw young master too). They both obviously live oblivious of these memories until the master (Sacha) just happens to stumble upon it/tortures it out of the time lords after finding them. Granted, this would have probably had to have been done over the course of a full series much like the "prime minister/master" storyline. But at least it would have been a much more thought out and planned storyline than what we got. Throwing in a phrase like "the timeless child" and then giving us a hastily put together episode that is also mashed in with other things going on too. It would also account for no other mention of this information in previous series and could also explain the master's madness (possibly due to not being compatible with the time vortex) and also why the doctor ran away (subconsciously knowing they don't belong with the time lords but not knowing why)
I've been saying that for ages, god, you're so right!!! It ruined the idea of the doctor for me, as now it feels like every sacrifice of regeneration energy was sort of in vain.
Woulda been better if they'd just never made that shit at all.
the episode is called Timeless Children, which could mean that Timeless Child Bi-Generated in the past one of them became The Master other The Doctor would even make more sense I think.
@@ensaracar9608It should just be erased from canon and fkn burnt. They only did it so they could retcon the Dr into being every fkn race, colour and different genders multiple times and not a white British male the whole time to pander to woke bs. They tried to completely rewrite 60 years of Dr Who history and now that Disney owns it Dr Who is dead. The Dr getting told off for misgendering aliens. Piss off. What a load of utter bs. A lot of old fans like me couldn't give a shit about it now. I'd rather watch old eps with Tom Baker than the shit they're making now. What a fkn joke. Smh 🙄🤦♂💩💩🤮
I think the explanation for the Angels moving in Flesh and Stone is actually based on how the audience's eyes work with our brains to process visual information. Apparently our eyes sort of frame skip, and the slowness of the angel's movement is down to them moving in the instant we don't process. Their actual in-story movement is after all meant to be very fast.
I always thought that 10 was visiting Joan and his great granddaughter, which made it even more sad for him
I think the scene with Joan’s great granddaughter (or whatever she was), was actually the best scene in that episode. I thought it was perfect.
The look on his face and the question “was she happy in the end?” told me he knew it would be too painful for her, and that he was still feeling incredibly guilty about the whole thing.
I think you're wrong about "Dalek". It was about suspense, not a twist. We knew what was down there, but the Doctor didn't. If it was all about the twist, it wouldn't be worth watching twice; knowing what is coming and seeing it dawn on the Doctor makes it rewatchable.
I think the problem with Moffat story's were that he changed direction of where he took his original ideas. The river song astronaut scene I believe was reshot because he changed his mind how that was going to be done, the paradigm daleks weren't followed through, and melody too was just a new idea he threw in. He made it quite jarring. Chibnall too is quilty of this with propping up the tooth face people then never hearing from them again.
Not visiting Joan is idk reasonable? She didn't actually know the real Doctor, she only knew John. Seeing him again would cause her pain and I don't think she would want to see him anyway. Obviously we know that its the same actress but I think he wanted to see someone close to her without actually seeing her in person.
But he wouldn't have to talk to her though, he could just observe from afar, like he did with Donna.
I think he just wanted to know she did move on from the heartbreak he caused inadvertently. He got a bonus that came with heartache when she looked just like Joan.
@@danthemeegs8751 Yes, but doing the same with her would have taken away thematically and emotionally from when he visits Donna but can't interact with her.
It says a lot that the Paradigm Daleks have been improved by fan artworks and fan animations - especially in colours (one fan animation had a nice menacing black coloured Paradigm Dalek leading a force of bronze Daleks). It was a fan animation where you get to see the alternate weapon within the hatch at the back in use (something part of the design and plan but never used).
When it comes to the paradim daleks if they'd replaced the yellow and orange colours with black and grey and tone down the red I think it could have worked.
As for Jack dying, that wasn't an issue for me, he doesn't have to die in every episode he's in, just cause you can do something doesn't mean that you should and nu who has a habit of overuseing everything, so for them to not do something is good.
When it comes to flux, I'd say just give it the full run that it was intended to have. But outside problems prevented that.
Considering that Moffat seems to be from the same school as jj abrams, mels would never have been shown before let's kill Hitler because that means actually knowing what they mystery box is when they begin writing it. But yeah it would have been a good idea to introduce her earlier.
I didn't mind 13 responding to Graham that why, it humanised her doctor and maybe it could have been better if it were different but I also like how the doctor isn't an endless well of answers amd that sometimes they don't know what to say or how to make things better.
Or just don't have a stupidly drawn out farewell tour because that was just awful.
The whole “perhaps don’t have that scene” quote, could work with half of these scenes
I agree with everything you've said.
I found the angels moving incredibly creepy, still gives me chills, with that blank stare. I took at as in-between their true form and stone form as they weren't sure if Amy could see.
I, for one, liked the Mighty Morphing Dalek Rangers. I hope to one day see them combine into the dreaded Dalek Zord.
I’ve got another one, LET ME KEEP MY FEZ!
CALM DOWN MATT
Nah, the weeping angels moving like that...terrified me! It was incredibly done
I disagree with number 1, that scene was perfect. Joan didn't want to see him again, it was too painful for her to look at him.
For "don't show the weeping angels moving," how about "don't show the weeping angels at all?" They're just about the most absurd characters I've ever seen. It's already been shown all you have to do is face two of them toward each other and they're frozen in place. Likewise, if you have a bunch of them chasing you, turn the first couple around and let them and the rest following stare each other down. Also, I find it STUPID that no one, on any of their episodes has said, "blink one eye at a time." And, the best one is, The Doctor carries a sonic device which has been shown to produce VERY powerful sound waves. Sound causes vibrations which will crack stone, so the sonic should be able to eliminate the angels en masse, with relative ease.
Was the idea not very specifically that Mels *DIDN'T* grow up with Amy and Rory until their personal timeline was altered because of Mels? The Doctor mentioned having not heard of her before (and being confused by that), Mels said that they got to raise her after all. It was clearly an edit Mels made to their personal histories - why it was always that way for Amy and Rory but new for the Doctor in that crop circle scene in the field.
Nice to see criticism aimed at the revival era and the simple things that could be done better. About time it was done!
The bit with Joan is one thing I have to disagree with. I mean, Dalek could have been The Enemy, leaving it nice and ambiguous as to exactly who the title was referring, eg Van Statten, the Dalek, or even Adam (if he';d been written differently). However, with Joan, knowing how hard it was for her to give him up, it is easy to picture the Doctor not wanting to make her life any harder than he already knew it would be, 2 world wars, the great depression...I could go on. Having your past love suddenly pop back into your life, no matter how happy one is, would have derailed everything, so it was best to find out how her life turned out at one remove.
The mistake with the chonky daleks, was to make the reveal indoors with bright lighting and with a low ceiling room. They would have looked more impressive if they were shot outside. The outside light would have toned them down just enough to make them look bright but not toy-like
Yeah it really bothered me that the Grand serpent was not just Swarm in disguise - like it would have made a great deal of sense with the plot, and helped tie the stories together better. I was actually waiting for a scene where he transforms/disintegrates into Swarm, they even laid the groundwork for this by having Azure do the same early on in the arc. Like maybe Vinder mortally wounds him then he becomes Swarm. A five minute scene to tie everything together. The actors even have similar physicalities so it wouldn’t have been much of a stretch.
I think 10 visiting her granddaughter makes so much sense!! For the vast majority (until 11 told us he visited everyone) of his visit he stayed within the 21st century, meaning he wasn’t entirely sure how much time he had (assuming that the further in/back in time he goes the longer it takes) meaning he wouldn’t of been able to make it to see her.
Furthermore, it is without doubt that 10&9 were the most distancing given how fresh the time war was for them. The hurt 10 would have to face knowing that was yet again, another loss of love he had. Not to mention his own struggle with immortality and the life he could have had, where life would seem enjoyable and settled. Unlike life as a time lord, as he mentions to Jack on plenty of accounts. I think it was very psychologically necessary for the character of ten to play out his connection in this particular circumstance, to see a generation of the woman he once loved who only knows him in admiration rather than hurt, anger and resentment. When you look at it, in this regard it feel VERY NEVESSSARY and well done RTD 💋💋
Essentially this interaction took note of all the troubles the doctor faced
• immortality
• love
• yearning of another life
• yearning of a lack of responsibility
• ability to feel human (emotionally) something that is ADMIRED across all newhu doctors
my reasoning for it was that Joane wouldn't ever want to see him again (since he has the face of John Smith)
We really missed a good Arc between 9, 10 and 11 all knowing the future of Jack. In the Christmas of the Doctor just a nod we could've had the doctor remember a line from the Head of Bo about being alive longer than he imagined
*Face of boe
@@phoebeburt2668 I read this has the face of borf and Instantly thought of the swedish chef has the Face of Bo
Instead of faking the River Astronaut scene there could be a couple of possibilities. You could shoot "empty" scenes showing the backgrounds for later greenscreen replacement. Or have someone else in the suit with a green stocking over the face (which can be later keyed out and River keyed in via greenscreen).
I think the episode titled 'Dalek' should have been called 'Enemy Mine'. Would have fit the theme of the episode, and the opening with them seeing the classic Cyberman head would give a hint that it's a returning enemy but not which one. There are a lot of old Doctor Who enemies that could have been used.
Thanks for this interesting and thought-provoking video. Very well presented, too!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I swear the whole River Song shoots the Doctor on the beach was so last minute and on the fly that that is why it was filmed later. No one will convince me that that was thought about back when The Impossible Astronaut was written. Sorry but if it was they'd have tried harder to either get back on location or do a better job at the green screen and the little details.
Also for me 13 being "socially awkward" was just a massive cop out to avoid having a deep conversation about the "big C". It felt like Chibs wanted something really big to use as Graham's fear but then got near the end of the script and thought "oh, we can't talk about cancer in a family show" and so gave the Doctor the "socially awkward" line. Ngl if I'd voiced that kind of fear to a friend and they reacted that way, I'd probably never tell them anything again. If mentioning Cancer was such a "taboo" subject that Chibs should have picked a different fear for Graham. Personally, I think him seeing Ryan die and Grace telling him "you let him die, just like you let me die" would have been so chilling (but that's just my opinion) and then you could end it with 13 asking Graham if he's okay and Graham just saying "yeah, absolutely, Doc" and then trying to change the subject while 13 looks unconvinced
“Dalek” WAS originally going to be called “Absence of the Daleks” (and featured a single Toclafane instead)
In the episode "Dalek" I love the easter egg throwback to the episode with Sylvester McCoy where the UK found out that even though Daleks could conquer the galaxy and be all powerful that they could after all climb stairs !!! (The Sun had a massive report on this the day afterwards after all, it was well known as I grew up that they couldn't climb stairs)
My first thought (and comment) when the bright colored Daleks were revealed was: iDaleks!
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The f**k you say? These are my favorite version of the Daleks! I’m mad they were underused!
I’m also mad they passed over green for the Dalek Scientist and made it orange instead.
What was better(or worse) about the wipping angels was that we see them like stone, because they are quantum locked to be like that when you are seeing them, but we didn't knew if they changed they apperance somehow when they moved. They could be some fleshy of some sort of shadows monsters that just turn into stone when something is looking at them.
Seeing them move kust like a stone make them a LOT less scary. They became just a regular monster/alien. And their speed alse became a lot slower, considering what was show in their first episode.
Yeah, the implication being that they were MADE of stone and not "something" that becomes quantum locked when observed.
Dalek could have had the title “Survivor” being that of both the Dalek and the Doctor
The point about let's kill Hitler just reminds me of the scene when Amy says Rory is gay, Rory is like no I'm not and then just fully sprints out of the house 😂
I would assume that 10 not wanting to go and see Joan is to do with him not wanting to drag the past up again for her. If he already feels guilty, going back and seeing her again is just going to add to that since it’ll just remind her of all that, not to mention he’s then got to leave all over again. She’s likely moved on with her life since then. Why go back and dig the past back up again?
6:36 "Almost as if Chris Chibnel didn't know what to do with him." Here's a wild idea:Chibbers had NO CLUE what to do with ANY of the characters in Doctor Who: hero, villian, or bystander.
My fix would be changing the first ever serial, so that when Ian and Barbara are taken away in the TARDIS for the first time, they land on Skaro, so we can skip the 'Cave of Skulls' entirely.
In my personal edit I made, it takes a lot longer for Susan to show up too, and all the extraneous stuff with the school is removed.
I think from World War Three's next time trailer, a good majority of fans already knew the Daleks would be back. However, it's not like they didn't do that point, see when the Macra, the Silurians, the Great Intelligence and the Ice Warriors (who also weren't revealed in their next time trailers) first appeared in the Revived Era. Although I don't have much to comment on most of the other points (I'm not sure I agree with them or not), I agree with what the other commentors have said about the last point; Joan didn't want to see the Doctor again because he reminded her of John, so why go and check up on someone who doesn't even want you to be within their proximity when you could see a present day descendant of theirs who you're not particularly on "You may leave" terms with?
The Grand Serpent and Azure should have been the main antagonist and be one and the same character. As in we see this Grand Serpent throughout the run but don't know his connection to Azure and then in a Red Skull from Captain America moment he rips off his skin to reveal he was Azure all along.
Jack should have used his ability to absorb the power of the prison shorting it out then when he woke up they could escape.
8:15 I like the title 'The Survivors' which was a working title
If you have a big returning guest star that's managed to stay hidden all through filming and not even the briefest rumour, don't stick a clip of them in the coming soon trailer at the start of series 10.
Honestly, World Enough and Time was an incredible episode, but tell me it doesn't go from 9.5/10 all the way to 15/10 the second John Simm pulls off his mask and reveals himself IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS COMING. Having seen it in the trailer I managed to spot it the second he turned up on screen because I knew that he had to be in the story somehow. 2 Masters in the same episode had never been done before and there was honestly no other clue about it because everyone's focussed on the Mondasian Cybermen and the fact that Bill was shot minutes into her first season finale. John Simm did not need a trailer appearance.
If 10 visits Joan herself he runs the risk of hurting her again... or even hurting himself. It's hinted that he still has a sliver of love for her in his heart(s) when he asked her to come with him... if he just popped in and she's married with kids that sight could still hurt him. Visiting a descendant cushions the blow for everyone. It also legitimizes the stories Joan would've told her family.
It's also nice to show what became of her lineage. Her great granddaughter becomes an author well-off enough to be autographing her published stories of the Doctor's adventure from that specific event.
I personally like the paradigm Daleks they made the Daleks feel fresh and different giving color coordinated ranks to them
The child who designed the Abzorbaloff envisioned it as being the size of a bus, which probably would have made it seem more menacing too, if only because that size would have probably resulted in it being less humanoid in shape.
The original concept made me think of classic B-movie horror film "The Blob" instead of the i'M sO cRaZy streaker-wannabe we ended up with.
and it’s not like they couldn’t make something big like that. there’s the meat thing in torchwood.
I hope the kid is ok. I feel bad that the episode is so hated.
I want to edit out every scene in which Martha complains to some random person about how “in love” she is with the Doctor and how he doesn’t notice her. “Show, don’t tell” writers. Both Freema and David are more than good enough actors to convey those undercurrents through acting (and do, all the raw material is in fact there if you just edit out the dialogue). Leave in Jack saying “you too, huh?” to her when they meet, that’s enough text for that subtext. The constant overt statement in every episode makes an otherwise kickass character one-note and pathetic and is a disservice to one of the best seasons of the entire show.
Actually the Weeping Angels move at least twice in Flesh and stone, cos one of them grabs the Doctor's jacket.
Metaltron would have been a horrendous title for Dalek 😂
I think this video would've been much better fixing bigger plot issues with Dr Who rather than small details in episodes. Small mistakes can be made, some of the bigger decisions that have slowly made the waters murkier are bigger issues for me. My personal issue is the idea that angels can teleport through pictures and videos, just feels a bit impossible to me and makes them a bit of a ridiculous enemy.
Honestly, Blink was so good, I would have been happy to not see the angels again. I don't think they were used well at all in Moffat's era, (that's just me, wonderful if you loved their storylines!). Also, did the angels have their eyes closed when they moved? We know that if they are looking at each other, they can't move.
I agree that replacing the Serpent with Swarm and Azure would've been far better.
A new name for dalek: one last survivor
The thing with the weeping angels that upset me was that it was said they turn to stone when they are seen I was really hoping that there would be this other form if you get what I mean when they aren’t seen?
Absolutely did not notice the differences/green screen for the impossible astronaut stuff
With regards to #13, Graham is just another companion in a long history of companions. Furthermore with a list of 14 (added the War Doctor) personalities over (I think) over 2000 years. Sometimes the companions leave them, sometimes they leave the companions. (Stupid needing to use 3rd person pronouns now). They know to not get too attached because the unknown can happen. Rose is stuck in an alternate universe, Donna had her brain wiped, Martha’s family had to live through hell on Earth, Amy and Rory are in 1939 NYC, Clara is gallivanting in her own Tardis, Bill was turned into a cyberman, so following this trend why should Doctor #13’s companions be any different? Every time they get close to the companions something happens to get them separated.
Not trying to be rude about the initial supposition and the fact I also have my favorite companions also gone. I do not think that despite the doctor having nearly infinite empathy for the strangers saved, those who enter the doctors inner circle are a bit too close.
Joan would never have wanted to see The Doctor, not even as an old woman. It would have caused her too much pain. Clearly she loved him, but in her mind, he wasn't the same man she fell in love with. That's why she wouldn't go with him. "John Smith is dead, and you look like him." And then she made the very valid point that, had The Doctor not chosen that place on a whim, no one would have died. It is possible to genuinely love and hate someone at the same time, and I think that's the case here.
The issue I have with 11th Doctor angels two parter was, the angels could see each other. They are WEEPING angels for a reason. They have to cover their eyes so that they couldn't possibly be looking at each other. The scene towards the end with all of them at the control room meant that the only ones that could move were the ones at the back of the crowd which meant they would have been frozen the moment they moved forward because the ones that were infringement of them were now behind them, looking at them.
What reveal in ‘Dalek’? The Dalek was on the front cover of the Radio Times, hard to keep THAT a secret. The reason behind it was that the BBC wanted the Daleks in episode one, but RTD said that it would be better mid-season to give the show a ‘second relaunch’.
I think that having the angels move would be more suited to only Angels Take Manhattan but at the same time, having recently learned of how they did the costumes and makeup for the angels, I don’t fully hate the scene because the costuming was seriously impressive
Also with regards to the weeping angels moving, it takes away so much of the fear when we see them move? It's hammered home that any image of one is an angel, blah blah... So if we can see them, someone can see them? I know it's not real obviously, but make it seem more real?
It’s my understanding that the book she was signing was the story of her grandmother also (this is just me trying to make what we got work) he thought her seeing him would corse more pain. I think the real reason was it was a quick scene that would be too expensive to do in period.
I concur
Ive always seen Mel's as the silence instructing River to insert herself retroactively into Amy and Rory's life's, and that's why there's no mention of her, yes there's flashbacks of them all but I just thought we were seeing Amy and Rory's life altered by Mel's,
Number one: why didn’t the Doctor go back and tear open those wounds again for Joan?
Well gosh I think I just answered it right there but maybe I’ll continue.
How would her granddaughter know if she in the end had a happy life? Well she did grow up knowing her grandmother who obviously found love again and married and had kids who then had kids. So maybe interacting with her grandmother she can fairly tell if she had a happy life or not.. Oh she also found and published her diary about the time with this mysterious doctor. So she does have some insight to it all, especially if her grandmothers diary was very detailed with her own intimate thoughts, which most diaries are.
Edit: I also find it interesting and cool that the granddaughter now knows the story is real. Before the Doctor steps up to talk to her, we hear her say something like: well I don’t know if it’s true I found my grandmothers diary. But now she knows it wasn’t a fantasy or story her grandma came up with, it was true.
On the Angels: In many ways, I found that creepier that we saw them move this time. The only people seeing them is US. And we are seeing them via video, which has a Verticle Blanking Interval. Our observation of them effects them, so they are, in part aware of us. The Verticle Blanking interval, that slight moment between frames when they are not being observed allows them to move ever so slowly. Think about. It's really creepy.
And I thought Doctor visited Joan’s granddaughter bc she had literally just released a book entirely about Joan’s experience… which said granddaughter had written, therefore would be an honest & objective source for 10th doctor to find out. Because if he had travelled back in time to see Joan, it would prob stir shit up for Joan and cause further heartbreak, not to mention the possibility that she may have felt inclined to withhold the honest truth from him as to not make him feel more guilty or imply that she wasn’t thriving without him, so to speak. While I didn’t really like that the granddaughter looked exactly like her, I wasn’t put off by the fact that the doctor visited HER to try to find out about Joan. I dunno, that’s just me. (And the writer/director, etc lol)
At 8:18 Did some of you know there is a fan made audio drama called The lost solider based on the events before the episode Dalek.
We follow the dalek before it ended up in Henry van stattern cell
and ends when the 9th doctor discvoring it. if you have not listened i would recomend giving it a go
Honestly, a better title for the episode "Dalek" would have been "Survivor" with allusions to the Daleks throughout the episode.
Please, make a list about *top 10 episode titles that gave us spoilers!*
For instance, "Rise of the Cybermen", "The Sontaran stratagem", "Dalek", "Time of the Angels", "The Zygon invasion" and "Legend of the Sea Devils".
I mean, any title that's "(noun) of the (name of alien here)" is gonna be a spoiler. Unless it's the first time we meet that alien, like "Terror of the Zygons" where Zygons made their debut.
Also "The Android Invasion" where the Doctor and Sarah spend two episodes wondering what's going on and we're all sitting there saying, "It's ANDROIDS. It's in the TITLE."
Also also, there's something to be said for distinctive titles like that. There's one serial called "The Visitation," and the title gives zero hints on what it's about.
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Do you have a video addressing why or how The Master went form helping The Dr. as Missy to trying to destroy The Dr. when played by Sacha Dhawan?
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And yes, we recently discussed that subject in this video...
10 Doctor Who Controversies That Divide Fans: ua-cam.com/video/ghNHGvhSGAg/v-deo.html
Being on the TARDIS, shouldn't the companions, particularly the ones who continuously travel with the Doctor. Have access to TimeLord health-care? I'm sure there's a type of medical stuff that would heal them after they were injured! plus we saw with Rose, that they went to a hospital/medical centers before! I'm sure she or Jack got medical aid at one time or another!
for Redford I kind of understand because it's kind of implied she never wants to see him again. In a sense he's maintained that boundary and given her the space she needed while also learning her fate.
I heard that Season 13 had plan to have Jack Harkness, but it had to be cut I think.
A title like cold casing would be absolutely perfect for dalek
Tbh i think that the difference between the two impossible astronaut scenes (apart from literal different mountains (seriously?)in the same place) can be easily written off as a way to give early pointers to fans that something had changed with river song between the first impossible astronaut scene and the second one.
I loved the Power Ranger Daleks xD
I love the series so much and I've been following along with it since it was on PBS when I was a kid in the '80s. But when the doctor regenerated and it wasn't that pretty black lady that felt like a mom and a teacher all at once I was done I couldn't deal with that Jodi lady
-ditch the whole "in the future people we wear the same clothes as now" trope-recent incarnations of the Star Trek franchise and The Orville have shown you can have people in the future wearing futuristic clothes without the whole "in the future people will wear silver togas" route
-visit some alien civilisations, again you don't need to do the whole "silver toga" thing as franchises like Farscape have shown
Yeah... The bit about the weeping angels was a big one for me. I appreciated that the angels don't move because we, the audience, were observing them.
The Scene between 13 and Graham needed just a simple touch, and a sentence like, "I don't know. I can't control everything. But I promise you, you won't be alone."
I’ve got three other fixes for Doctor Who.
1. Have the 10th Doctor stay silent during his Regeneration. Him saying “I don’t want to go” honestly removes the impact of his sacrifice to save Wilf and the way Tennant said it is honestly a bit cringe worthy and paints the 10th Doctor as a bit of a coward and wimp.
2. Keep Clara dead after Face the Raven. The Doctor bringing Clara back to life in Hell Bent completely destroyed her admittedly well done death in Face the Raven, removes all consequence of Clara being reckless and makes Heaven Sent pointless as The Doctor had no grief to overcome.
3. DO NOT make the Doctor The Timeless Child. An inter dimensional alien child being responsible for the creation of Time Lord Society and giving Time Lords easy access to Regeneration? Fine. The Doctor having Pre-Hartnell incarnations? I’m also okay with that. However the problem was that the Doctor was both. Sending tidal waves across Doctor Who lore and also being an incredibly cliche trope of the main character being super important. Another reason why I gave Rey a Palpatine in The Rise of Skywalker such a hard time. My fix would be to have the Doctor and Timeless Child be two separate people. The Doctor could have been an agent working for Division assigned to take care of the Child. However the Doctor soon assists the Child with escaping Gallifrey and due to the Time Lords hunting him down for that, he steals a Tardis with his granddaughter, Susan, and as soon as they leave Gallifrey, the Doctor uses a Chameleon Arch to wipe out any memory he has of the Child and Susan gets rid of the Fob Watch as soon as the procedure was done.
How about: lower the background music volume so we can actually hear the dialogue.
It's hard to be afraid of a villain that has to just stand there like a statue, while you take its head off with a sledgehammer.
I always got the impression the reason he went to Joan’s grand daughter rather than the real deal was because he was scared of disappointing or being seen by her but still wanted some closure
I do agree with the Number 1 pick... The reason why he did not go back to see her with the TARDIS is quite simply explained... There are two reasons - One we have been told by the show itself numerous times, The TARDIS being semi sentient probably would not allow it... but additionally, I also think it hints that he had in fact fallen in love, Just as he had with Rose... He was still reeling about losing Rose in the way he did so seeing Joan at any point in her life, even as an old woman, it was simply too painful.
We have been shown that the Doctor does not fall in love easy, but when he does he falls HARD... and while I have obviously created this head canon to explain why he did not do any of that... Even if hat was the reasoning they had planned, they did not explain it well making everything feel kind of "Out of Place"
If they had maybe shown that the Doctor struggled with that part of his life, Even just looking at Pictures of Rose and Joan in the TARDIS, It could have conveyed his deep feelings... How while he was hidden as a Human he had again fallen in love but it was a love that was impossible to realise... Joan would die, They all die! He could not face it again! It could have been done so subtlety and easily and would have made that scene work...
Audiences dont need to be told "The Doctor is in Pain because he fell in love" - We have seen it already, We are intelligent enough to spot a subtle clue like that! The old rule of "Show Dont Tell"
I loved the paradigm daleks they had to stand out as the alite stand alone not just another dalek dalek, these were the thinkers the one's who thought outside the box
I feel like you could show daleks as being elite free thinkers by giving them names, perhaps make one black
@@michaelbeadle5156 they did have different names dalek thai dalek khan etcetera etcetera