Actually Sagat is a great counter against Ryu.. But When a Ryu user became agressive Zoning with hadoken multiple times with the chip damage and finishing it with shinku hadoken once you open just a little bit of defense.. It could spell doom
I know this comment is pretty old (hell, I was 7 when it was commented), but if you haven’t been following him recently, he’s been playing a ton of Guile for the majority of his SFV career
Its not just that. Given that its very hard to chain combos very fast in SF2. Whats amazing is he could just continue to chain all regular moves with super and continue back to regular moves without missing a beat.
The thing that makes this video funny is that the audience is cheering not because Daigo is winning, but because John Choi was getting his shit ruined.
And you are okay with that, because you're a Daigo fanboy? Japanese hero worship? I'm Japanese, are you going to cheer for me for that fact? John is Asian himself, do you hate him because he was born in the USA?
@UCVocdrYKg12fK_llVIPShgg no you idiot, picking old sagat (the most powerful character in the game before akuma) and literally just spamming tigers after tiger is cheap as hell. John Choi is cheap as hell that’s why when you see someone cheap being absolutely destroyed it’s fun. Bare in mind Old sagat is frowned upon and banned in all decently high level tournaments in Japan (source is ryan heart who got his source from Daigo himself) so Daigo didn’t have much fighting experience against Old Sagat so tf you on about? And that comment was 9 years ago you really think anyone cares what you have to say now?
@@loljohn3837 Japanese-American. Is there a problem with that? Or wait, you only think real Japanese are only born in Japan. So therefore I am not a true ST player. I used to practice with Kuni Funada everyday. You don't know what you are taking about! Oh by the "John" Old sagat isn't the most powerful character in the game. Vega(claw) is, in Japan we have him as having no bad matchups. Learn your history and the game before you speak.
@David Moorehead Nobody frowns on John Choi or When Valle uses him in fightcade or at tournaments. Same in Japan Yondaime-San will use S Sagat. Yet, you probably wouldn't frown on him, because their is there is this weird Japanese bias whatever we do is okay if Americans do the same or lose, it's because they don't know how to play the game according to your peeps. People frown upon (claw) Mao-San still uses him and he doesn't care plus nobody is complaining. I notice Americans do the most complaining, instead of learning the matchup.
@rasui80 -Tigers travel faster and recover faster. This is very important. -Tiger Uppercut is one hit, for big damage and a knockdown. -Standing Short and Standing forward are bufferable at both the first hits and second hit. This can help you in combos and you can use Standing Short cancelled into ground tiger to help pressure.
If Tomo Ohira, was still playing Daigo wouldn't have a chance. Kuni Funada the best Zangif player in Japan, that moved to America even said nobody in Japan was at Tomo's level. Not even Mr. Tachikawa-San the 1992 Japan National champion wasn't even hear Tomo's level. Also there are videos UA-cam showibg Jeff Sheffer perfecting Daigo with Various characters. Learn your history before opening your mouth
@@meze9563 That was decades ago, he'd get thrashed by the newer generation of players unless he took the time to study what they did and the new tactics that have developed since the early '90s. He went home to be a family man. Jeff's exhibition was a friendly one- don't take it so seriously.
@@rsmith02 We took the game seriously in our day. it was cutthroat. You don't understand how crazy it was at all the arcades and at World's Finest Comics. Friendly or not, Jeff took 13 or 14 rounds out of the 20 they played off Daigo that night and was retired for 10 years. My point is the OG's were just better at the game. Of course after the Tomo days, Japan became the best and still are to this day. I live here in Tokyo and I still play against all the old and new high level players. We are not into SFV. and yes Tomo got into girls and was a DJ at one point then he went to college like Jeff did. Jeff was actually a Marine at the time and was a bit older than us. I was a bit younger than Tomo. and I can tell you my stories playing against, but that's for another time. Cheers!
this is sooo funny to watch. . .coming from someone who grew up on this game, I only played the Hyper Street fighter games, mostly on the sega genesis, and street fighter II: HF for xbox 360, I'm seeing things in this game like ryu and balrogs specials I've never seen, such an amazing match and skilled fighters! nice video
High Tigers can be avoided by crouching, low ones forces you to either take chip damage or make a move (into standing roundhouse / tiger uppercut ideally). Old VS New Sagat comparison can be found by Googleing "old sagat vs new sagat", first entry.
It does that automatically, no everyone does NOT always know who is being replied too, and do you have video evidence? All the vids I looked at shows Ryus Tatsu as slower. (though the vid quality is bad) Or is it that the HOME versions changed that?
Can someone explain how Daigo was able to destroy so hard with boxer? Is it because Sagat has little defense again that character? Or John Choi doesn't know how to play against him? Or Daigo is superhuman?
I know it's annoying to watch (and definitely annoying to listen to), but anything goes when playing for money. It's a bit deeper than "throw projectile until you win" but there really isn't much to counter it with. The mechanics of SF2 make projectiles an amazing tool. SF3 parry and SF4 Focus attack help a bit so we see fewer games that play out like this.
That's because M Bison was originally used for Balrog, in order to make it sound like Mike Tyson. This is the way the names were changed: Japan (US): M. Bison (Balrog), Balrog (Vega), Sagat (Sagat), Vega (M. Bison)
My god that Balrog! Fucking hell Daigo. The crowd were instantly like FUCK THIS SAGAT AND HIS TIGER SHIT! WE WANNA SEE IN YOUR FACE COMBOS! Also really like the no commentary and you can hear the crowd reactions, its more like your actually there.
It's 2022 and I'm still here watching this! Lol. Daigo forever the goat!
Yeah man. I never knew you could play Balrog as vicious as that.
@ryuno2097 Balrog and diago imba bruh. How you suppose to fight that non-stopness
"Raw footage of Daigo actually angry"
Raw sounds fancier~
=P
looked like Daigo got really pissed off about losing with Ryu and went nuts with Balrog haha
IIRC, he's not used to the bat top of the controller and got irritated by it, so decided to go with a character with charge moves.
@@junkvideos4527 Japanese arcades have always had the ball-top sticks, so in a match this old that makes a lot of sense.
@@junkvideos4527 what's a bat top
@@phil4863 I think it's the Korean sticks, it resembles a baseball bat as opposed to the "lollipop" sticks with ball tops
Actually Sagat is a great counter against Ryu.. But When a Ryu user became agressive Zoning with hadoken multiple times with the chip damage and finishing it with shinku hadoken once you open just a little bit of defense.. It could spell doom
I gotta be honest. I could have used a little more tiger.
Every Tiger was a mind fuck! The MIND GAMES!
@Clemmy Magee so you never played before, make sense your answer, go to fightcade and try to do a tiger round....
I could have used moar cowbell myself
🤣🤣🤣
You like some....cornflakes?
Incredible Balrog. Ferocity and brutal combos given the slightest opening.
IM IN THE ZONE MAN!!!!!!!!!
the begining of this video contains more Tiger than a Frosted Flakes commercial
You want some cornflakes?
@@Angrygreentea I THOUGHT YOU WERE COOL, SAGAT, BUT YOU'RE JUST A THUG
This was like Tyson back in 85.
I just realised why they call Balrog M. Bison in Japan... because he's a play on Mike Tyson lmao.
@@Spacemonkeymojo they didn't want to get sued by naming him Bison because it's clearly a Tyson replica.
It was but they decided to call him Balrog
The kind of combos and pressure Daigo was performing with Boxer in this match looked frame-perfect. Absolutely terrifying.
4:11 daigo always shows his mood in his gameplay
ノリのいい歓声といいこの動画ほんと見てて気持ちいいいい
That's one insane Balrog. 0_0
Crazy Buffalo hahah
Sagat had like no openings at all with this Balrog...gooodddaammnnn 😆 😆
That was a wild match
I didn't knew Balrog had fatalities in SF
John had the eye of the tiger, but Daigo was the sole survivor.
Straight BEASTING with Balrog!
Its nice to see Daigo use a non shoto and what a BEAST!
His Balrog is Godly.
I know this comment is pretty old (hell, I was 7 when it was commented), but if you haven’t been following him recently, he’s been playing a ton of Guile for the majority of his SFV career
@@rocksaltinytAnd now he is back with ol Third Strike main, Ken.
@@rocksaltinytguile may as well be a shoto
HELLO SAGAT did you enjoy your day in the zoo? what animals did you see?
TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER
Hello from the future
@@Ghanemq8 hello from the present
Balrog was fighting like he wanted his 40 acres and a Mule
hahahahahhahahahahahaha thats horrible
+MLaw3k Omfg that was fucking brilliant
MY MAN!
Or as he calls it now, his fight money
Bwahahahahaha!!
Its not just that. Given that its very hard to chain combos very fast in SF2. Whats amazing is he could just continue to chain all regular moves with super and continue back to regular moves without missing a beat.
Seeing this match made me fall in love with ST
The thing that makes this video funny is that the audience is cheering not because Daigo is winning, but because John Choi was getting his shit ruined.
And you are okay with that, because you're a Daigo fanboy? Japanese hero worship? I'm Japanese, are you going to cheer for me for that fact? John is Asian himself, do you hate him because he was born in the USA?
@UCVocdrYKg12fK_llVIPShgg no you idiot, picking old sagat (the most powerful character in the game before akuma) and literally just spamming tigers after tiger is cheap as hell. John Choi is cheap as hell that’s why when you see someone cheap being absolutely destroyed it’s fun. Bare in mind Old sagat is frowned upon and banned in all decently high level tournaments in Japan (source is ryan heart who got his source from Daigo himself) so Daigo didn’t have much fighting experience against Old Sagat so tf you on about? And that comment was 9 years ago you really think anyone cares what you have to say now?
@@pb879 and don’t lie you’re not Japanese😂
@@loljohn3837 Japanese-American. Is there a problem with that? Or wait, you only think real Japanese are only born in Japan. So therefore I am not a true ST player. I used to practice with Kuni Funada everyday. You don't know what you are taking about! Oh by the "John" Old sagat isn't the most powerful character in the game. Vega(claw) is, in Japan we have him as having no bad matchups. Learn your history and the game before you speak.
@David Moorehead Nobody frowns on John Choi or When Valle uses him in fightcade or at tournaments. Same in Japan Yondaime-San will use S Sagat. Yet, you probably wouldn't frown on him, because their is there is this weird Japanese bias whatever we do is okay if Americans do the same or lose, it's because they don't know how to play the game according to your peeps. People frown upon (claw) Mao-San still uses him and he doesn't care plus nobody is complaining. I notice Americans do the most complaining, instead of learning the matchup.
i didnt know daigo could play that monster balrog
Daigo's Balrog/M. Bison is plain brutal.
Yeah his Balrog was wicked, and those Balrog charge time partitions was godlike lol.
Unbelievable timing
It used to drive me crazy how his tiger knee sounded like a different voice lol.
And it sounded like Big Bird, no less...
Amazing Boxer. That rush down was awesome!
I swear most times I hear "FIBER!"
Which is good. Sagat's just concerned about his opponent's digestive health.
Damn Daigo annihilated him as Balrog
@rasui80 -Tigers travel faster and recover faster. This is very important.
-Tiger Uppercut is one hit, for big damage and a knockdown.
-Standing Short and Standing forward are bufferable at both the first hits and second hit. This can help you in combos and you can use Standing Short cancelled into ground tiger to help pressure.
That rush down at 05:40 ..🔥 "WHAT!!"
"What's your favorite animal at the zoo, Sagat?"
"TIGER! TIGER! TIGER! TIGER! TIGER!"
"Cool."
Great matches, amazing skill from both players.
I often use O.Sagat. This character is very strong, because tiger shot is so fast.
Also his limbs was a big longer and he had fast recovery on many of his moves and the dmg.
Because his Tiger Uppercut did decent damage. As in, like, piledriver damage!
O. Sagat is a lockdown master but he falls short against characters who can ignore the spacing game and just go ham.
Japan showing America how SF2 is meant to be played.
If Tomo Ohira, was still playing Daigo wouldn't have a chance. Kuni Funada the best Zangif player in Japan, that moved to America even said nobody in Japan was at Tomo's level. Not even Mr. Tachikawa-San the 1992 Japan National champion wasn't even hear Tomo's level. Also there are videos UA-cam showibg Jeff Sheffer perfecting Daigo with Various characters. Learn your history before opening your mouth
@@meze9563 That was decades ago, he'd get thrashed by the newer generation of players unless he took the time to study what they did and the new tactics that have developed since the early '90s. He went home to be a family man.
Jeff's exhibition was a friendly one- don't take it so seriously.
@@rsmith02 We took the game seriously in our day. it was cutthroat. You don't understand how crazy it was at all the arcades and at World's Finest Comics. Friendly or not, Jeff took 13 or 14 rounds out of the 20 they played off Daigo that night and was retired for 10 years. My point is the OG's were just better at the game. Of course after the Tomo days, Japan became the best and still are to this day. I live here in Tokyo and I still play against all the old and new high level players. We are not into SFV. and yes Tomo got into girls and was a DJ at one point then he went to college like Jeff did. Jeff was actually a Marine at the time and was a bit older than us. I was a bit younger than Tomo. and I can tell you my stories playing against, but that's for another time. Cheers!
3:41 Daigo tastus over fireballs to DP Choi, so sick
スパ2Ｘ制作当時このバイソンの動きは想定されていたのだろうか…
これは完璧な暴力だ！😂
Last round is speechless... Poor john choi...
damn who let that boxer out of his cage
Freaking crazy that last round, the beast woke up in Daigo with Balrog,
this is sooo funny to watch. . .coming from someone who grew up on this game, I only played the Hyper Street fighter games, mostly on the sega genesis, and street fighter II: HF for xbox 360, I'm seeing things in this game like ryu and balrogs specials I've never seen, such an amazing match and skilled fighters! nice video
The inventors of this game are watching right now and be like "what monster did we create?"
Needs more tigers
Tiger, tiger, tiger, tiger, tiger, tiger.
This man just hit a 10-hit block string with Balrog, that shit was so od!
How can I re-like this video a thousand times?
John Choi got so pissed he pulled out his Faust...
5:45 freaking crazy... harder to master than the ssf4 trials
High Tigers can be avoided by crouching, low ones forces you to either take chip damage or make a move (into standing roundhouse / tiger uppercut ideally).
Old VS New Sagat comparison can be found by Googleing "old sagat vs new sagat", first entry.
This recording from 2004 is like twice as old as SF2 was back then
les spectateurs se marrent 😂
Those were some sick matches. Holy crap, balrog.
rare footage of people cheering for daigo
Why wouldn't people cheer for him?
he was foreign and won everything back in the day
if by 2010 you mean 2004, then yes
Because they want to too see rush rush and combos not fire ball fire ball this generation doesnt want...
It does that automatically, no everyone does NOT always know who is being replied too, and do you have video evidence? All the vids I looked at shows Ryus Tatsu as slower. (though the vid quality is bad) Or is it that the HOME versions changed that?
Thai girl?
Mihai Radu lmao
Whatever floats his boat lol
Old school Daigo
Fireball spam + Daigo = a love affair that goes way back.
choi is awesome .. kudoss
I still watch when Daigo flew to the US to play Alex. That match was bad ass
When I was a kid, I thought he said “Hi bird!”
After watching sf3 vids for years, it is impossible to go back to TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER UPPERCUT TIGER
I wish Daigo would main Balrog instead of Ryu. He's so brutal with him and it's way more entertaining than the same old shoto crap.
u know when the qualities shit u gonna see something legendary
Man bro it's crazy how Street fighter has massive combo's Great video
4:11
*THE BEAST*
Jesus christ daigo’s balrog is insane
Daigo was nasty was Balrog. 1st time watching this is 2024.
Needs more "cowbell".
5:43 - 5:48
Dat rushdown pressure.
Heck yea thats mike tyson at his prime right there for sure lol damnnnn 😆 😆
Can someone explain how Daigo was able to destroy so hard with boxer? Is it because Sagat has little defense again that character? Or John Choi doesn't know how to play against him? Or Daigo is superhuman?
I know it's annoying to watch (and definitely annoying to listen to), but anything goes when playing for money. It's a bit deeper than "throw projectile until you win" but there really isn't much to counter it with.
The mechanics of SF2 make projectiles an amazing tool. SF3 parry and SF4 Focus attack help a bit so we see fewer games that play out like this.
those last two matches with balrog were brutal.
Missed ad opportunity for a tiger beer commercial
That thing in front of the screen is Daigo, right? I mean, it's not moving at all...
No tigers were harmed in the making of this video
この早いサガットは何のシリーズですか？
TIGER! FIBER! BITE HER! HYPER! LIGER! VIPER!
jjbaHFTFjin lol
okay. (i'm not that other guy) tell me what mind game shenanigans are happening in this video, mr. pro. (i noticed some myself)
Thank you very much! :)
TIGER TIGER TIGER TIGER X 100000000
Ownage..wow..! That Balrog play was amazing..
Miss thise days...it was all ❤
.. I like the sound of laugh when those character keep jumping from the fireballsss...
I love the real 2d and realistic image of street fighter 2. It's more fun than the modern street fighter games.
"Ok, let's pick Boxer, and destroy the place."
I don't understand throwing in super turbo...Can you just always throw, regardless of hit stun/block stun?
Wait which one is it? There are a bunch of them
Why this version of SF doesn´t show score of reversals and combos?
Sick matches there.👏
Sagat was like, get this damn boxer away from me I can't breathe.
from 5:34-5:50 how do you stop that offense ?
Let me answer my own question you cant.
tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger tiger.... hehehe sweet sagat.nice matches
Just imaging how great SF4 would be if they had this Sagat's voice instead.
That's because M Bison was originally used for Balrog, in order to make it sound like Mike Tyson.
This is the way the names were changed: Japan (US): M. Bison (Balrog), Balrog (Vega), Sagat (Sagat), Vega (M. Bison)
Lemme guess... Daigo makes a dramatic come from behind victory?
Es el mejor juego que he visto!
🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅
스파에서 발로그 성능이 어느정도입니까?
Is sagat tall fireball useless?
I love the part when they do a Tiger Shot.
Nice vid.
Porque os jogadores de Sagat nunca usam o Super?
This looks like a legit 90s anime.
My god that Balrog! Fucking hell Daigo. The crowd were instantly like FUCK THIS SAGAT AND HIS TIGER SHIT! WE WANNA SEE IN YOUR FACE COMBOS! Also really like the no commentary and you can hear the crowd reactions, its more like your actually there.