She's always talking for them. Talking over him, holding him close, and usually if he is talking, it's the confirm something she said if she asks "right babe?". I wish whoever filmed this gave him a chance to be alone to talk. He doesn't look comfortable. He looks like a hostage honestly.
Hey, this is absolutely the same for me. I have the prettiest, nicest 2D waifu and I still sometimes cheat on her. On the other hand I ofter see art of her cheating on me. Monogamy does not work even if we'd wish for it to be so
@@vincpinkus1713 Hey man just to give you some context for what being in a relationship like this is like, I was with my ex for around 3 years and the behavior this woman displays is almost uncanny to how she was and I can imagine she'd be like her even more so in another 10 years or so. When youre in a relationship like this and so deeply tied to one person, there is no thought of just getting up and leaving, he didnt see this situation coming because if his situation is anything like mine was then over time his "wife" has been slowly grooming him to be accepting of everything she does and says in countless almost indescribable ways due to how much she probably knows about him and his psyche. The pure loss of personality behind those sunken eyes is caused by a kind of manipulation that can and will strip you of your very sense of self. Even after only my few years of dealing with this type of manipulation my mental state changed in a bad way because youre not thinking about yourself. The only thing that youre convinced that matters is keeping the abuser happy because you know what happens when they lash out if you make them mad but you also desperatley want to bring back what you used to have with that person. So ill say this: this man was genuinely in love at one point in his life and im sure it was amazing when it started but he did not bring this situation upon himself in any way and would leave only if there werent 17+ years of emotional baggage and deep manipulation in the way of breaking her hold over him
Yeah, i bet after 17 years he cant imagine leaving. And he even married her. He put all his trust into her and really loved/ still loves her. You can tell his heart is broken by the way he talks. I kinda feel bad for him. It would still be better if he would leave, no matter how hard it seems, he doesnt need her
And ppl are saying it’s his fault or he has no self respect. I’ve never cried about a UA-cam comment before but I’m literally in tears about the lack of compassion and understanding that abuse victims have to go through
@@hollowpointgaming6097 she manipulated him into thinking it's fine to cheat when it isn't and she is convincing him that he is happy when he isn't, that's why he didn't leave her.
Her correcting him yelling at out "Two!" when he was talking as if the number of men matters so much makes it seem as if she has pride in how many men she has at a time. She clearly needs constant attention and reassurance from many men.
@Thiefy0 Thiefy0 Poor guy deserves better, imo...but if he enjoys being cucked and brutalized on a daily basis, that's on him. Everybody needs a hobby.
@@beeragainsthumanity1420 I mean fair, but most of the people that get cucked are pretty obviously mentally and emotionally fucked. It's the same aspect of women thinking the medically bad aspect of masochism is fine, when they're clearly being mentally abused and manipulated into thinking it's fine. I don't know man, it isn't a matter of 'it's his decision' when he clearly doesn't seem to be thinking straight, or healthily for that matter
This couple knew people with cameras were coming over to interview them over their messed up relationship...she dressed up like a rural sex object while he (a straight man) put on a colorful PRIDE shirt. Stereotypes all over the place.
You can still learn to value yourself more while already in a committed relationship, IF the relationship is healthy. This relationship? Miles from healthy
Poly person on the scene: Don’t gaslight ur partners into polyamorous relationships unless you wanna speedrun losing them. ESPECIALLY if they’re strictly monogamous. I genuinely hope that Mark leaves and finds a better woman than this
Yo agreed. There's many ways to do polyamorous relationships and have them be genuinely fun and healthy, but this is definitely not it. I could maaaaybe see her cheating once, then him forgiving her and then them both bringing alternative relationships into the conversation, but cheating four times??!! Oh hell no, this is such crap, Mark deserves so much better than her
Or she didn't marry him if she couldn't bother to be loyal to Mark like Mark was. Honestly, I see Mark more as just her source of income, but I could be wrong.
she essentially gaslighted and manipulated him into being “polyamorous” treating him like he was in the wrong somehow and sticking to that dishonest narrative. Sad
She has completely won, look at her face. Then look at mark. Every sentence he says just screams , insecurity and sadness. We wishing the best for Mark. You deserve better man.
I would love it if Mark just packed all his shit and left her a note saying he met a nice monogamous girl who’s crazy about me and never look back once the divorce is over. That would take her down a notch. That’s my relationship advice to Mark. ;)
@@Lonegraywolf75 I actually really like this idea lol. I mean hopefully he's happy but if he's not he should get out of the relationship there are plenty of amazing people in the world that also won't cheat on you which seems like the bare minimum....
@@williamhenning4700 the gross part was when she was all like "we don't allow toxicity in our lives, just positive vibes, ect,ect,ect" like you hear all these vapid "influencers" social media whores prattle on about...while you can literally see half the light from mark's eyes gone forever only leaving the cold dark husk that is left of his very soul rattling around in his skull....the dichotomy of those 2 things would be almost funny if this was some sort of dark comedy.
Cheaters aren't smart enough to think about the long term perspective. Once they are older and less desirable that's when they'll really sleep with anyone just to get some fulfilment in life. It's only gonna get worse the older they get
You can be married and polyamorous, but this isn't how you do polyamory. At all. Ever. The whole point is consensual and ethical non-monogamy. If she isn't monogamous, she shouldn't be entering monogamous relationships.
Charlie's definitely not lying. Peanut butter and honey is delicious. Although I will say that personally I actually prefer to eat it spread together on some toast instead of in actual sandwich form, ya know? lol Either way though, it's still most certainly one delicious fucking combo.
Pretty sure Christina doesn't care about mark's feelings as much as she does for the support he provides, As she herself captioned 'how I convinced my hubby to become a swinger after cheating on him'. Sad case of manipulation :/
@Onouphrios Let’s… Let’s not blame the person who got cheated on? He said he could be with that girl forever, he loved her, and she just wants to bang other guys. He doesn’t want to lose her, he loves her right? So he goes along with it, but yeah he should dump her ass, they could never work out like that because Mark seems SO unhappy, while she’s overjoyed she can bang other guys and doesn’t have to feel bad. She sucks, the guy isn’t a fault, but he should leave her she doesn’t deserve him
This girl has hit her wall, and the dude was working all the time while she did part time hair and cheated behind his back.. Typical beta who has no self-respect and molds himself to please a single girl who never cares about anyone but her own shorterm needs.
If she wanted polygamy then she should tell the person she is gonna date, at the beginning before anything starts. Also poor Mark is broken inside and I feel so bad for him.
@@ghostykatze there is NO SUCH THING AS A HEALTHY POLYGAMOUS RELATIONSHIP. Jealousy and mate guarding are evolutionary reflexexs that are built in to the human condition. One need only look at countries that haven't progressed past polygamy to realize that it's literally the most counter productive shit ever.
@@nicholasbrosseau6035 idk man, if there’s people who are genuinely cu*ks and enjoy that shit and people who like other extreme shit then it’s not surprising anymore
The unfortunate thing is that people like her aren't rare. There's a whole massive chunk of people on twitter who call men fragile or insecure just for wanting a monogamous relationship. It's pretty sickening to see for yourself.
i feel like using Twitter users as an example for any bad practice is cheating, as we are all aware that Twitter users are completely and utterly 100% braindead
@@ArvelDreth as he should be.. you know she would take everything , she has zero respect for 'him' .. of course, he doesn't respect himself a shred either..
@@StayFractalesque absolutely. You have to be absurdly careful about who you marry these days. I would seriously rather settle for marrying a feminine dude who's nice to me than be trapped with a woman like this.
OR they’re just a couple of friends/roommates who knew the internets naive and fragile audience would be in such an uproar over a story like this that they rehearsed a believable sit down with themselves and uploaded it 🤔 Genius
@@vSeabass never too late to do something, we’re living a very fast paced life rn. But yeah back in the smosh days and early shane dawson, I contemplated so much about making a channel, all it takes is one viral video then build on that and make quality videos
yeah im not a relationship expert either, but mark looks so soulless while she just is being so expressive and energetic. I can tell that this looks SO happy.
That's actually a perfect way of saying it. She's taken both halves of the relationship and all he's left with is an empty husk. Just a shell of a man of his former self
She's the only one talking about how happy she is after this experience. Poor guy hasn't said anything except mention his jealousy and how upset he "was".
The problem is that she didn’t make him aware of her inability to be monogamous at the beginning so that he could make an informed decision about moving forward. So instead of being honest, she betrays his trust and breaks him. He never wanted this. Then when her friends find out, she gets upset that they don’t applaud her for cheating on her husband so many times that he broke. It’s just sad.
I'm happy the kidnappers gave Charlie a nice tent to sleep in. They're even letting him upload content, stay strong out there I'm sure 4chan is on the case
@@blueyolker4961 you don’t know anything about me. I’m just saying that I can empathize with people that don’t want to be limited to one sexual partner. Some couples can make that work.
@@blueyolker4961 as someone in a monogamous relationship, me and my partner have tried polyamerous relationships and we are both still together, you can be poly or consider it and stil remain faithful, faithful meaning agreeing to stay within the bounds of the relationship.
Really like how you're explaining the difference of a consensual poliamorous relationship and the emotional/psychological abusive relationship. Well done
why r y’all so against poly ppl that are open abt being poly like there is zero harm done by them existing and it’s actually better bc now they don’t get in exclusive relationships and cheat. would u rather they lied and made everyone more miserable
@@IkesPimpHand Ah yes, the classic "Refuse to explain why and simply say they don't work, embodying the logic of a five year old" argument, a classic. "Why don't poly relationships work?" "They just don't" "Okay but why?" "Because poly and relationship just don't go together." "..But why?" Now, if you were to give some actual damn reasoning, maybe people would believe you.
@Explodie Boi fr i have never seen someone this just... sad. It's not just a simple "lmao jack's dad deserves hell," no, this man wrote a whole paragraph that is cringy as fuck. bro isn't just parentless, he's everythingless.
When she mentions that “she felt bad about it”, that’s basically just admission that she knew what she was doing was wrong. Swinging or polygamy is one thing if both parties know that going in, but in this case it’s her cheating on Mark and then gaslighting him into thinking that what she’s doing was normal and that he should do it too. It’s still cheating if you try to change the dynamic of the relationship once you’re caught… It’s gross
@@DMFF_YT That and their partner is really good about convincing them that they are actually at fault and if they feel upset its because there is something wrong with them and why are they always so controlling. I was friends with that person and the thing that snapped them out was when when I asked how many of his family members would she have to fuck before it got weird?
The fact that she got angry at her friends tells me that she knows it's wrong and wants an echo chamber to make her feel less guilty. Like Charlie said, their relationship is none of her friends' business and they probably wouldn't care anyways. Why would she be so upset about them not supporting her "swinger" relationship unless she was deliberately seeking approval? You only seek that kind of approval when you have the thought in your mind that what you did is wrong
@@lancerzmom it's becoming more common these days, It's hard to speak up as a man in these situations especially with the thought of being alone if you say how you feel.
I'm more slightly annoyed at him than feeling sorry for him. He is in this situation voluntarily and he can break out, but for some reason doesn't. Having said that that woman is a total bitch so no one would come after me screaming that I'm victimblaming
@@Ellie-gp9dg I feel like she knows that he’s insecure and she knows that he’s non confrontational so when she does cheat on him and tells him about it he doesn’t feel like he can do anything other then to go along with it. Right now they have a 4 way relationship and I’ve been looking at their tik toks this man is being used beyond belief and I don’t think he realizes truly how shitty this type of “love” is.
@@Ellie-gp9dg Not exactly a voluntary situation when he's being emotionally manipulated. That's the whole point of emotional manipulation, by doing so you're making emotional restraints that makes a person not able to break free, and this is through the means of emotions. Not exactly easy to just poof yourself into realizing that what she's doing is shitty, not everyone has grown up with that self-respect and self-love.
Honestly it sounds like Christina wants the stability of marriage but also wants the freedom to fuck anyone she wants and it is just so happened that poor Mark is the one to give her both
"Monogamy just isn't natural for me." = "I am a huge narcissist with zero self-control and I need constant sexual attention from literally everyone I see."
she's clearly abusive but some people genuinely find monogamy to be limiting so I feel like you could've gone without the insults towards all people who aren't monogamous..
@@mudryk259 it's not inherently limiting, but it can be if someone is poly or has different sexual needs. If someone finds their monogamy limiting, they should bring that up with their partner. If you are wanting to be monogamous exclusively and cheating behind your partners back-then that's a problem in your relationship and not in your sexuality. You can feel limited in a monogamous relationship, voice it, and come to a solution with your partner without ever having cheated or lied in the process. That's called having a healthy relationship.
@@greenworld966 Nah, some people just have issues with self-control and commitment, and they should work on themselves rather than be encouraged. If that hurts your feelings, too bad.
@@greenworld966 People who pretend there is just some innate difference between themselves and other people which makes them need to have multiple different partners are honestly delusional. It's a choice to be with one or more people. Not a sexuality, ffs.
F for Mark. He has given up. You can tell he's absolutely not polyamorous and now his ego is broken, stuck in that horrible situation. She just doesn't respect him.
And she never did, or will respect any other man because she got away with it and her friends saw it too... and will parrot her life because he paid for it and still does like a beyyyyta
And she never did, or will respect any other man because she got away with it and her friends saw it too... and will parrot her life because he paid for it and still does like a beayytaah!
"Polyamorous" isn't a real thing. If I steal from you, you aren't just a bigot against my belief in polyownership. It's a mental health problem at best that needs therapy.
@@SomeUA-camTraveler One could argue humans are not property. I'm not the one to judge what consenting adults do privately. I think that would be as silly as polyamourous people trying to "debunk" monogamy.
@@HyperMario64 well said. That's exactly what I was thinking myself - obviously cheating is fucked up and it does in fact hurt your partner - yet for some reason there was something in the video that made me think "wait but humans don't own their partners...". And to clarify, in case anyone takes what I say the wrong way, poly is only okay when both people were already interested. Definitely not one person pressuring the other. I've never been in a poly relationship but if I never met my current partner I think I could have ended up in one, one day
if monogamy isnt natural for you, don't keep a monogamous person trapped in something they arent okay with. plain and simple; not everything revolves around you and it dang sure doesnt when youre in a relationship. mark deserves justice because this is just wrong and hurtful. mark if youre reading this know you deserve better than this
There are times where I will feel insecure or just negatively about myself for the odd reason, but then I see something like this and realize I could be doing so much worse. Thank you Mark for showing me there will always be someone more pathetic than me
I've yet to encounter anybody who uses the term "positivity" any other way. That word alone is an instant red flag that means some kind of lying or abuse is incoming.
Honestly she could've just said that to sum up their whole relationship and it wouldn't change a thing. Anyone who says that exact sentence unironically is either delusional or manipulative, often both.
Yeah, I know several polyam couples, but this… this is serious disrespect. Her going behind his back is so shitty. That’s not polyamory. That’s cheating. He deserves better, especially since all the need for attention feels so one-sided.
She doesn't need to have sex all the time to feel happier I never understood the appeal of women with higher fertility and hormones. If he starts to get bored with her they will both feel the pain after awhile she should have just told him she did that sort of thing, I think some escorts just forget about consent too, they just think fucking people all day will keep a good man around.
@@saturngirl3673 I know a girl with two uteri, to call the poor little bit “hormonal” is a gross understatement. Her choice in life is either to find a very caring & understanding partner, or to take estrogen blockers until she hits menopause (unless she volunteers for a hysterectomy). For her, I don’t know which fate is worse.
@@locomadman Uh. The uterus doesn't secrete hormones, that's the ovaries. And excess estrogen causes *lowered* sex drive, not increased. So either she had another underlying hormone issue or you're flat out lying.
"We are soulmates...and it took him a while to comprehend me..." "I was really bitchy when I was monogamous." This is maybe the saddest thing I've ever seen. I'm torn between feeling utterly sorry for this guy and thinking if he accepts this hell, he at least somewhat deserves it.
@@noobinator3699 I hear you and agree he's clearly being manipulated big time, but at some point if we are an adult we have to sometimes make tough decisions about toxic people/environments that are hurting us. There is a saying, "are you an active participant in your own rescue?" I think it's time for him to be 🤷♂
@@noobinator3699 Oh Don't get me wrong...I'm so with you - it's really hard to watch, you're 100% right. And you notice the personality differences? That's what crushes me most. The very assertive, controlling & manipulative ones - man or woman - always seem to find and prey on the more introverted and trusting. It is a shame.
Imagine her coming home and Mark being in the mood, and she says: “sorry honey, I already had my sausage today, a bit worn out now”. Yeah, great relationship
“Sorry Mark but he was so much better than you and I’m exhausted. What? Maybe tomorrow? Sorry my schedule is full this week. You know how I love my side sausage. This makes you happy, right Mark? Right Mark!?” -Christina the penis connoisseur (as long as it’s not Marks)
Am I the only one that finds hilarious that Mark, who doesn't seem to have his individual thoughts and desires taken into account in the relationship, has a tshirt with INDIVIDUALITY on it?
After having been in a situation where I was being gaslighted and convinced that I was "selfish" for just being monogamous, it's nice to hear Charlie talk about how two people need to come to the conclusion together and one person shouldn't be coerced into it. I know it's logical, but these kinds of people really make you unable to trust your own thoughts, feelings, or judgement.
It's cause she's a sociopath, she has the tell tale signs. You'd be surprised how many people have sociopathy, it's actually a much bigger problem than most people realize.
@Savetion Foodist At this point I'm convinced it's not trolling that you guys are doing but a weird fetish instead if you could type a paragraph out of that shit
@@shagarumedic fr. I used to go to reply section in hope of finding funny conversations or maybe an interesting argument. Now I just try to avoid the reply section as much as I possibly can.
Mark's face in the first shot is a thing of wonder, artists and sculptors spend decades trying to convey such a vivid portrait of duality. He's literally two-faced, the left side a mask of strained nonchalance and the right side an empty mournful stare.
There’s no greater proof in my eyes that Mark hates every moment of their situation than from 5:48 to 6:04 . You can see the pain in the poor mans eyes. You can see the self loathing. It’s terrible.
Dude literally gave out a silent scream for help and she's laughing it off, even topping it with a "I'm so much happier now that my salad is tossed all the way to the mighty hunting grounds"
"This is Christina and she fell in love with Mark." if she actually fell in love with him she wouldn't have manipulated him. We wish you the best of luck Mark you know that you can do better.
yeah bro, you wouldnt put your "urges" ahead of them a butt ton of times. Or you would at least talk it over with them and try and find a solution. She attempted neither.
Honestly with his total lack of self respect I don't believe mark can do better. There's better women he could be dating but Mark seems physically and mentally incapable of arriving at the decision to break up with her and move on.
truly tragic charlie, i hope you can recover from this traumatizing emotionally horrible experience. Rest in peace to that sandwich and your brain for processing this shitty relationship.
Charlie’s 100% spot on with his analysis. Mark looks like merely an appendix to her. Everything about this whole thing is like, „whoooo KRYSTINA! (…and mark)“
@@lemonywater2979 Basically in some species of anglerfish, the male is much much smaller than the female and for reproduction they sort of fuse with the female, becoming some sort of "appendix" to it. Nature is wild.
I love how she talks about cheating like it’s just something she can’t control. Cheating isn’t as easy as just driving to the liquor store cause you need your fix…there’s so many steps involved in cheating, especially with multiple partners. Poor guy.
@@paige5763 misogyny? No you misunderstand, I’m totally jelly! If you got it, use it, go girl power! And I’m really not being facetious, there’s very much a reason why the dating market, a 13 billion dollar industry, is used by approximately 70% men; women simply don’t need to. (Well, most, anyway.) But please don’t think I hate women, couldn’t be farther from the truth.
@@Max-hs4vu youre completely missing my point. i agree that she is a bad person, there’s nothing misogynistic about pointing out her wrongdoings. it’s the people saying all women are hoes etc and using her bad actions as an excuse to make negative comments about women as a whole
Found myself in a similar situation. Thought about it long enough, and decided "This is not the man I want to be. And if that's what this woman wants, then this is not the woman I need to be with, despite my feelings." It's better to live alone than to convince yourself that a lie is real.
@ exactly. You might not remember the exact actions or even the exact words, but you remember the scars, you remember identifying the problem(s) with the relationship, and realizing that's not the kind of person you want to associate with. At that point, nothing else need be explained, because it's your decision. You know why, that's all that matters.
I was in a relationship like this for a really long time, where my partner said that they were unhappy being monogamous and they wouldn't be able to stay with me if I didn't accept that. Absolutely fucking sucked MASSIVE balls dude, absolutely obliterated my mental health. I drew the line and broke up with them when they hit on my childhood friend. I feel so bad for Mark cuz I've been right there before, you can see the pain in his eyes
I really cant understand how something like this can even happen. As an incredibly insecure person myself, i let a lot of shit get by and forgive my partner for it. But the second i find out she cheated on me its over. Doesnt matter why she did it. There is no excuse. Happened to me once. My last gf cheated on me and i instantly ended it even tho she didnt want to. But for me the second someone cheats, the relationship is over.
@@_ANDRE. it’s not even cheating sometimes, they just say “I want to be free” or some shit like that and flirt with people, which still isn’t fine I guess but it’s not cheating and you don’t know if they are. In short that’s narcissistic abuse, something really subtle, pretty hard to walk away once you’ve been caught in and trust me, if you don’t know the shit, please for the love of God, read something about it, because it’s very easy to become a victim, male or female, shy or outgoing, weak or strong. I’m still fighting my demons and I can say it’s a pretty shitty experience, heads up kings, you’ve been great surviving al that, I hope you’ll find the things you’re looking for
This is insanely gross and manipulative. Mark is clearly powerless in this dynamic and he should have stood up for himself long ago. If you have obvious issues with monogamy, you shouldn’t lead on someone who wants a monogamous relationship. Guys please draw the line at emotional manipulation. Don’t let yourself be dragged through something miserable because you think you’re in love.
The sad truth is we can’t. Men are being downright brutalized by society. when we do nothing wrong we still get broken over it. And if we want help nobody cares about our problems. Even therapists ( also in personal experience aswell as others ) just seem to play everything off as a joke when it’s a guy with issues
If you know you can't stay faithful in a monogamous relationship then either don't get into a relationship at all or find someone who doesn't need to be "convinced" to have an open relationship. He's been with her for 17 years and unfortunately the longer you stay in an uncomfortable situation the harder it is to leave. I wish him well.
As soon as you cheat, it's over. Like you're done, you lied and went behind their back and broke their trust. If your partner cheats in you, end it. I've seen so many times where people try to stick it through and it never works. Never. They either cheat again, or the trust just can't be mended back together
It's not always that easy tho, you don't turn off feelings on a whim. Even though logically you might think that way, most likely you'll feel different emotionally. Logics and emotions don't always match up which will lead to chaotic decisions. My ex partner cheated on me with my former best friend after 7 years, even though he was basically instantly dead to me I couldn't shake of my feelings for her. Took years to get over. Certainly won't do my future partner any favors in the trust department.... Edit: But I do fully agree, just saying it's not that easy hehe..
It depends on why the person cheated. Some people cheat because they received something from someone else they were missing at home, and in some instances, they might not even have been aware that they were missing it to communicate to their partner "hey, we need to fix this about us". Some people cheat as a way to punish their partners. Some people cheat and yet are jealous of their partners, wanting to be the only ones sneaking around. The crucial aspect of having a relationship work after the cheating is both parties being willing to work on rebuilding that trust. The woman on the video clearly doesn't care about that or changing herself in order to not hurt her man, she just wants the man and the parade of cocks. And relationships are about changes. One partner changes, and the other needs to account for that and adapt, support and understand. Sometimes both partners change at the same time and things get tough, but they both can *work* through it. She didn't change, even after seeing how much it hurt her partner. She just made him accept her as she is, and changed the situation to accommodate her without taking his feelings into account.
He’s so quiet and reserved, he’s just learned to sit in the corner and take everything that’s pushed on him. I hope he fights back and just says “fuck you” and leaves
How can she say she’s struggled with monogamy all her life like it’s a disease. The entitlement, arrogance, disrespect and lack of self-awareness on show is pitiful to see
“We don’t allow toxicity in our life.” Yeah because she leaves only room for herself.
Well... And other men..
oof
@@fing4222 oof
Damn
The irony in that, is that she either doesn't realize or refuses to acknowledge that she's the one being toxic.
charlie, my man. no disrespect to your content, but if you gonna face us straight on like this, we gotta kiss or something to break the tension.
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I agree completely, Charlie needs too stop leading us on so much.
Sweeeennnnnnnnneeeeeeeeey
That's the 6-month reward for Tier 1 twitch prime members.
Absolutely I’m so tired of getting blue balled
She's always talking for them. Talking over him, holding him close, and usually if he is talking, it's the confirm something she said if she asks "right babe?". I wish whoever filmed this gave him a chance to be alone to talk. He doesn't look comfortable. He looks like a hostage honestly.
You 100% nailed it.
"Monogamy just isn't natural for me." So the obvious thing for her to do was get married, naturally.
Hey, this is absolutely the same for me. I have the prettiest, nicest 2D waifu and I still sometimes cheat on her. On the other hand I ofter see art of her cheating on me. Monogamy does not work even if we'd wish for it to be so
@@ghostoftheeinzberncastle 🗿
@@ghostoftheeinzberncastle At least she isn't harping you on divorce court or child support. So a dubski there.
The women is disgusting.
This clearly isn't a poly relationship, or mutual swinging, this is her emotional abusing the poor guy.
Its his fault he stays in the relationship
@@vincpinkus1713 hope you're never in an abusive relationship
Yeah me too, but he us kinda abusing himaelf staying with this woman
@@vincpinkus1713 Hey man just to give you some context for what being in a relationship like this is like, I was with my ex for around 3 years and the behavior this woman displays is almost uncanny to how she was and I can imagine she'd be like her even more so in another 10 years or so. When youre in a relationship like this and so deeply tied to one person, there is no thought of just getting up and leaving, he didnt see this situation coming because if his situation is anything like mine was then over time his "wife" has been slowly grooming him to be accepting of everything she does and says in countless almost indescribable ways due to how much she probably knows about him and his psyche. The pure loss of personality behind those sunken eyes is caused by a kind of manipulation that can and will strip you of your very sense of self. Even after only my few years of dealing with this type of manipulation my mental state changed in a bad way because youre not thinking about yourself. The only thing that youre convinced that matters is keeping the abuser happy because you know what happens when they lash out if you make them mad but you also desperatley want to bring back what you used to have with that person.
So ill say this: this man was genuinely in love at one point in his life and im sure it was amazing when it started but he did not bring this situation upon himself in any way and would leave only if there werent 17+ years of emotional baggage and deep manipulation in the way of breaking her hold over him
Yeah, i bet after 17 years he cant imagine leaving. And he even married her. He put all his trust into her and really loved/ still loves her. You can tell his heart is broken by the way he talks. I kinda feel bad for him. It would still be better if he would leave, no matter how hard it seems, he doesnt need her
She cheated on him so much she did a mind break on the poor dude leaving nothing but an empty husk of man. This woman is just pure evil.
And ppl are saying it’s his fault or he has no self respect. I’ve never cried about a UA-cam comment before but I’m literally in tears about the lack of compassion and understanding that abuse victims have to go through
@@katkay9923 lol wtf why doesn’t that guy just leave her
@@hollowpointgaming6097 ...
@@hollowpointgaming6097 you need to study psychology. That's not how victims of abuse work. Stop being ignorant.
@@hollowpointgaming6097 she manipulated him into thinking it's fine to cheat when it isn't and she is convincing him that he is happy when he isn't,
that's why he didn't leave her.
Mark: *soulless and whipped like a horse*
Also mark: *wears a shirt saying “individuality*
Do ya’ll love the irony too?
I literally just noticed this and sighed for my boy Mark
Hahahaha
@@garybuttherissilent5896 u will not see the lights of heaven bc of this weird ahh troll
@@user-sg5ii6zy1q You are not okay in the head haha
He is saying haha as in laughing
Her correcting him yelling at out "Two!" when he was talking as if the number of men matters so much makes it seem as if she has pride in how many men she has at a time. She clearly needs constant attention and reassurance from many men.
The way she manipulates him is just disgusting. Dude has clearly lost all self respect
Lol... jeezus... trainwreck in action.
@Thiefy0 Thiefy0
Poor guy deserves better, imo...but if he enjoys being cucked and brutalized on a daily basis, that's on him.
Everybody needs a hobby.
@@beeragainsthumanity1420 I mean fair, but most of the people that get cucked are pretty obviously mentally and emotionally fucked. It's the same aspect of women thinking the medically bad aspect of masochism is fine, when they're clearly being mentally abused and manipulated into thinking it's fine. I don't know man, it isn't a matter of 'it's his decision' when he clearly doesn't seem to be thinking straight, or healthily for that matter
This couple knew people with cameras were coming over to interview them over their messed up relationship...she dressed up like a rural sex object while he (a straight man) put on a colorful PRIDE shirt. Stereotypes all over the place.
Give her the boot , he can def do better , also maybe he is one of those dudes that think they wont get better. SMH
The way she brags when she says “two of them.” Disgusting. Poor Mark deserves better.
@Savetion Foodist wtf
@Savetion Foodist When the parental affection is lacking
@Savetion Foodist hey man! please off urself!!! :)))
@Savetion Foodist ????.......
Report and move on
This is why people should learn to be happy alone before they commit to a relationship. So you value yourself
You can still learn to value yourself more while already in a committed relationship, IF the relationship is healthy. This relationship? Miles from healthy
Poly person on the scene: Don’t gaslight ur partners into polyamorous relationships unless you wanna speedrun losing them. ESPECIALLY if they’re strictly monogamous. I genuinely hope that Mark leaves and finds a better woman than this
Yo agreed. There's many ways to do polyamorous relationships and have them be genuinely fun and healthy, but this is definitely not it. I could maaaaybe see her cheating once, then him forgiving her and then them both bringing alternative relationships into the conversation, but cheating four times??!! Oh hell no, this is such crap, Mark deserves so much better than her
Or she didn't marry him if she couldn't bother to be loyal to Mark like Mark was. Honestly, I see Mark more as just her source of income, but I could be wrong.
she essentially gaslighted and manipulated him into being “polyamorous” treating him like he was in the wrong somehow and sticking to that dishonest narrative. Sad
This isn't polyamory this is manipulation 😂 - a poly girl
@@embercapriii no offense to my poly fam, true poly intentions are wholesome - my best friend is poly : )
F for Mark
And the ppl in the comments saying shit like it’s his fault or he lost self respect
no offense to any poly peeps but most poly peeps that I know are really bitchy or manipulative, so this video is hella accurate
She has completely won, look at her face. Then look at mark. Every sentence he says just screams , insecurity and sadness. We wishing the best for Mark. You deserve better man.
I would love it if Mark just packed all his shit and left her a note saying he met a nice monogamous girl who’s crazy about me and never look back once the divorce is over. That would take her down a notch. That’s my relationship advice to Mark. ;)
Mark honestly makes me a little sick. He's enabling a completely vile creature to ruin his life. It's just pathetic honestly.
@@Lonegraywolf75 I actually really like this idea lol. I mean hopefully he's happy but if he's not he should get out of the relationship there are plenty of amazing people in the world that also won't cheat on you which seems like the bare minimum....
@@williamhenning4700 the gross part was when she was all like "we don't allow toxicity in our lives, just positive vibes, ect,ect,ect" like you hear all these vapid "influencers" social media whores prattle on about...while you can literally see half the light from mark's eyes gone forever only leaving the cold dark husk that is left of his very soul rattling around in his skull....the dichotomy of those 2 things would be almost funny if this was some sort of dark comedy.
@@two_tone_xlophone2630 Can't find the humor in it tbh. Some things are just too horrible for laughter.
"We don't allow toxicity in our life," has she heard of toxic positivity.. or herself.
Expected Mark to start doing the morse code blinking
Monogamy isn’t for her. That’s why she made vows and married someone. You can tell she’s truly very intelligent
Perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but I wonder if she married him for the money to fund her lifestyle.
@@SuborbitalPigeon 100%
Cheaters aren't smart enough to think about the long term perspective. Once they are older and less desirable that's when they'll really sleep with anyone just to get some fulfilment in life. It's only gonna get worse the older they get
Not intelligent.
You can be married and polyamorous, but this isn't how you do polyamory. At all. Ever.
The whole point is consensual and ethical non-monogamy. If she isn't monogamous, she shouldn't be entering monogamous relationships.
Being face to face with Charlie makes me feel like I'm in BIG trouble
Holy shit the bots are relentless😂
@@nessking583 not relentless, I'd say more pathetic
@@nessking583 I don't know wtf is wrong with people
@@goofygoob420 yeah I don't even know what they get out of it, especially the ones that don't promote anything. Especially the jacks dad ones.
@@babyyodar3426 not to mention he died like a year ago why are the bots still trolling?
Charlie's definitely not lying. Peanut butter and honey is delicious. Although I will say that personally I actually prefer to eat it spread together on some toast instead of in actual sandwich form, ya know? lol Either way though, it's still most certainly one delicious fucking combo.
Add banana its so good
I eat the all the time myself
@@LM-sk3mw Fuck yes. There is no better sandwich.
That poor man. You can see the pain in his eyes as she speaks about how she screws around on him
Mark: "I was heartbroken"
That's his true feeling. Should've stopped swinging when he's clearly not on board with you, Christina 😐😐😐
Pretty sure Christina doesn't care about mark's feelings as much as she does for the support he provides, As she herself captioned 'how I convinced my hubby to become a swinger after cheating on him'. Sad case of manipulation :/
Or she should have divorced. Poor Mark.
@Onouphrios Let’s… Let’s not blame the person who got cheated on? He said he could be with that girl forever, he loved her, and she just wants to bang other guys. He doesn’t want to lose her, he loves her right? So he goes along with it, but yeah he should dump her ass, they could never work out like that because Mark seems SO unhappy, while she’s overjoyed she can bang other guys and doesn’t have to feel bad.
She sucks, the guy isn’t a fault, but he should leave her she doesn’t deserve him
@@jamietheangryoctopus5938 it's so funny because if it was a girl in that situation no one would call her spineless.
This girl has hit her wall, and the dude was working all the time while she did part time hair and cheated behind his back..
Typical beta who has no self-respect and molds himself to please a single girl who never cares about anyone but her own shorterm needs.
If she wanted polygamy then she should tell the person she is gonna date, at the beginning before anything starts. Also poor Mark is broken inside and I feel so bad for him.
Poly is a lie. Only ends badly. No one should be ok with it.
@@nicholasbrosseau6035 Exactly. This video shows what "polygamy" truly is.
@@ghostykatze there is NO SUCH THING AS A HEALTHY POLYGAMOUS RELATIONSHIP. Jealousy and mate guarding are evolutionary reflexexs that are built in to the human condition.
One need only look at countries that haven't progressed past polygamy to realize that it's literally the most counter productive shit ever.
@@nicholasbrosseau6035 idk man, if there’s people who are genuinely cu*ks and enjoy that shit and people who like other extreme shit then it’s not surprising anymore
@@nicholasbrosseau6035 someone can be in love with multiple people
Also source?
The fact that there a dudes and women out there so insecure and afraid of being alone that they'd stay with anyone like this hurts my heart.
The unfortunate thing is that people like her aren't rare. There's a whole massive chunk of people on twitter who call men fragile or insecure just for wanting a monogamous relationship. It's pretty sickening to see for yourself.
i feel like using Twitter users as an example for any bad practice is cheating, as we are all aware that Twitter users are completely and utterly 100% braindead
@@cjgreen4331 Not wrong lol
Women use nonsense mental gymnastics as weapons. I've never trusted any and I never will.
And that's why I jumped ship on even bothering wanting to get married to anyone.
Twitter itself is sickening
Poor guy, he landed a "hot girl", and is so afraid of losing a "hot girl" that he has to be okay with literally anything.
Probably also afraid of what could happen to him in the divorce.
@@ArvelDreth as he should be.. you know she would take everything , she has zero respect for 'him' .. of course, he doesn't respect himself a shred either..
@@StayFractalesque absolutely. You have to be absurdly careful about who you marry these days. I would seriously rather settle for marrying a feminine dude who's nice to me than be trapped with a woman like this.
Hot? Damn, that's funny
@@BZgA You know why he used " "", right?
Hopefully this man gets as far away from her as possible. This is unbelievably toxic and manipulative. Poor guy.
OR they’re just a couple of friends/roommates who knew the internets naive and fragile audience would be in such an uproar over a story like this that they rehearsed a believable sit down with themselves and uploaded it 🤔
Genius
@@vSeabass ur onto something
@@vSeabass literally all the content on television and most of youtube
Views pay the bills
@@YOSHIMOTO_HI_SPEED and I’m over here installing whole a/c units sweatin my balls off, shoulda hopped on the yt bs train
@@vSeabass never too late to do something, we’re living a very fast paced life rn. But yeah back in the smosh days and early shane dawson, I contemplated so much about making a channel, all it takes is one viral video then build on that and make quality videos
Therapist: "front facing Charlie doesn't exist, he can't hurt you."
Front facing Charlie:
He sounds absolutely crushed the whole time.
yeah im not a relationship expert either, but mark looks so soulless while she just is being so expressive and energetic. I can tell that this looks SO happy.
Mark's Dead inside.
That's actually a perfect way of saying it. She's taken both halves of the relationship and all he's left with is an empty husk. Just a shell of a man of his former self
She's 100% a sex addict
@@thememe986 Same here, I'm addicted to sex as well but look at poor Mark, his soul has been banished to the shadow realm.
This vid made me so happy being single. Never in my life could I ever be that guy. Embarrassing
She's the only one talking about how happy she is after this experience. Poor guy hasn't said anything except mention his jealousy and how upset he "was".
As if signaling sos to anyone that could possibly help him out of this
Silently suffering is not good, especially with an asshole partner like her, they're gonna be on the news for a murder case.
The problem is that she didn’t make him aware of her inability to be monogamous at the beginning so that he could make an informed decision about moving forward. So instead of being honest, she betrays his trust and breaks him. He never wanted this. Then when her friends find out, she gets upset that they don’t applaud her for cheating on her husband so many times that he broke. It’s just sad.
This poor guy seems really sweet. I feel so bad that he fell for someone who’s just not worth that much.
I'm happy the kidnappers gave Charlie a nice tent to sleep in. They're even letting him upload content, stay strong out there I'm sure 4chan is on the case
These bots are so pathetic only if they said that to jacks face
@@de7ts078 I’d like to see them say it to my face I’m not violent but you say that about any one’s dad and I’ll swing on em💀
@@jackfrazier3044 You're gonna punch a laptop?
@@plantain.1739 I'd body a laptop
@@plantain.1739 I'd destroy a laptop
I love how she “struggles” with monogamy like she has a terminal illness or something.
Nothing wrong with struggling with monogamy in general. In this case, however, this is pretty fucked up
@@seanells2333 nah u just unfaithful
@@blueyolker4961 you don’t know anything about me. I’m just saying that I can empathize with people that don’t want to be limited to one sexual partner. Some couples can make that work.
@@blueyolker4961 as someone in a monogamous relationship, me and my partner have tried polyamerous relationships and we are both still together, you can be poly or consider it and stil remain faithful, faithful meaning agreeing to stay within the bounds of the relationship.
@@seanells2333 god intended for humans to be with one person. The struggle comes from porn
Really like how you're explaining the difference of a consensual poliamorous relationship and the emotional/psychological abusive relationship. Well done
The former doesn't exist.
@@ltb1345 no, id say they do, just that in this case he loves her but she clearly does not love him in a good way
@@username172 no they do not. Polyamorous and relationship don't belong together.
why r y’all so against poly ppl that are open abt being poly like there is zero harm done by them existing and it’s actually better bc now they don’t get in exclusive relationships and cheat. would u rather they lied and made everyone more miserable
@@IkesPimpHand Ah yes, the classic "Refuse to explain why and simply say they don't work, embodying the logic of a five year old" argument, a classic.
"Why don't poly relationships work?"
"They just don't"
"Okay but why?"
"Because poly and relationship just don't go together."
"..But why?"
Now, if you were to give some actual damn reasoning, maybe people would believe you.
0:55 why the fuck is the pineapple upside down this pisses me off more than anything
Her: I struggled with monogamy my whole life.
Me: Well, go find someone who fits your lifestyle instead of manipulating someone who doesn't.
A hoe is a hoe
That's what I'm saying.
@Explodie Boi fr i have never seen someone this just... sad. It's not just a simple "lmao jack's dad deserves hell," no, this man wrote a whole paragraph that is cringy as fuck. bro isn't just parentless, he's everythingless.
@@ccklol whatd he say he deleted it
She needs to do that but also get therapy for why she’s so manipulative.
When she mentions that “she felt bad about it”, that’s basically just admission that she knew what she was doing was wrong. Swinging or polygamy is one thing if both parties know that going in, but in this case it’s her cheating on Mark and then gaslighting him into thinking that what she’s doing was normal and that he should do it too. It’s still cheating if you try to change the dynamic of the relationship once you’re caught… It’s gross
@@DMFF_YT That and their partner is really good about convincing them that they are actually at fault and if they feel upset its because there is something wrong with them and why are they always so controlling.
I was friends with that person and the thing that snapped them out was when when I asked how many of his family members would she have to fuck before it got weird?
Yeah, if he's forced into it, it's not the same as both people going into it with the agreement to have an open relationship
The fact that she got angry at her friends tells me that she knows it's wrong and wants an echo chamber to make her feel less guilty. Like Charlie said, their relationship is none of her friends' business and they probably wouldn't care anyways. Why would she be so upset about them not supporting her "swinger" relationship unless she was deliberately seeking approval? You only seek that kind of approval when you have the thought in your mind that what you did is wrong
I read this until you used the word gaslighting and immediately stopped, soo fucking tired of that dumbass word
@@johncorbin5332 gaslighting is literally a normal word that exists, what is your problem? It's application here fits
Every Person in a Relationship: "I am Nothing without you"
Mark in Cristina's Relationship: "I am nothing to you"
0:57 why is the pineapple upside down???
This was so sad to watch. He is obviously in an emotionally abusive situation and has convinced himself he is okay with it.
I’ve seen quite a few relationships like this where the woman dominates the relationship completely while the man is expected to keep his mouth shut.
@@lancerzmom it's becoming more common these days, It's hard to speak up as a man in these situations especially with the thought of being alone if you say how you feel.
I'm more slightly annoyed at him than feeling sorry for him. He is in this situation voluntarily and he can break out, but for some reason doesn't.
Having said that that woman is a total bitch so no one would come after me screaming that I'm victimblaming
@@Ellie-gp9dg I feel like she knows that he’s insecure and she knows that he’s non confrontational so when she does cheat on him and tells him about it he doesn’t feel like he can do anything other then to go along with it. Right now they have a 4 way relationship and I’ve been looking at their tik toks this man is being used beyond belief and I don’t think he realizes truly how shitty this type of “love” is.
@@Ellie-gp9dg Not exactly a voluntary situation when he's being emotionally manipulated. That's the whole point of emotional manipulation, by doing so you're making emotional restraints that makes a person not able to break free, and this is through the means of emotions. Not exactly easy to just poof yourself into realizing that what she's doing is shitty, not everyone has grown up with that self-respect and self-love.
4:16 His words say “I’m totally on board and I love it now”. His tone says “F me, where did I go wrong in life for it to lead to this, I’m in pain”
This poor dude. Getting Cucked is like a lifestyle for him at this point.
Honestly it sounds like Christina wants the stability of marriage but also wants the freedom to fuck anyone she wants and it is just so happened that poor Mark is the one to give her both
@Louiebruh1 one piece is mid
Yet the bacon in the pot was still sadder than Mark.
came here to say that exact same thing
Just came back from a funeral and this is the saddest thing I've seen all day
"Monogamy just isn't natural for me." = "I am a huge narcissist with zero self-control and I need constant sexual attention from literally everyone I see."
she's clearly abusive but some people genuinely find monogamy to be limiting so I feel like you could've gone without the insults towards all people who aren't monogamous..
@@greenworld966 how is monogamy limiting lmao? how is it limiting to only date one person?
@@mudryk259 it's not inherently limiting, but it can be if someone is poly or has different sexual needs. If someone finds their monogamy limiting, they should bring that up with their partner. If you are wanting to be monogamous exclusively and cheating behind your partners back-then that's a problem in your relationship and not in your sexuality. You can feel limited in a monogamous relationship, voice it, and come to a solution with your partner without ever having cheated or lied in the process. That's called having a healthy relationship.
@@greenworld966 Nah, some people just have issues with self-control and commitment, and they should work on themselves rather than be encouraged. If that hurts your feelings, too bad.
@@greenworld966 People who pretend there is just some innate difference between themselves and other people which makes them need to have multiple different partners are honestly delusional. It's a choice to be with one or more people. Not a sexuality, ffs.
F for Mark. He has given up.
You can tell he's absolutely not polyamorous and now his ego is broken, stuck in that horrible situation. She just doesn't respect him.
And she never did, or will respect any other man because she got away with it and her friends saw it too... and will parrot her life because he paid for it and still does like a beyyyyta
And she never did, or will respect any other man because she got away with it and her friends saw it too... and will parrot her life because he paid for it and still does like a beayytaah!
"Polyamorous" isn't a real thing. If I steal from you, you aren't just a bigot against my belief in polyownership. It's a mental health problem at best that needs therapy.
@@SomeUA-camTraveler One could argue humans are not property. I'm not the one to judge what consenting adults do privately. I think that would be as silly as polyamourous people trying to "debunk" monogamy.
@@HyperMario64 well said. That's exactly what I was thinking myself - obviously cheating is fucked up and it does in fact hurt your partner - yet for some reason there was something in the video that made me think "wait but humans don't own their partners...". And to clarify, in case anyone takes what I say the wrong way, poly is only okay when both people were already interested. Definitely not one person pressuring the other.
I've never been in a poly relationship but if I never met my current partner I think I could have ended up in one, one day
It's weird not seeing Charlie from an angle
@Louiebruh5 Jesus you bots are terrible
@Louiebruh5 touch grass
@Class D jesus i didnt even check the replies, i didnt realise the spam was THIS bad wtf
@Louiebruh5
😭😭😭😭 pls go outside, PLS!
These bots are terrible. I reported some, but there's just so many...
Oh, and yeah, not seeing Charlie from an angle is weird.
if monogamy isnt natural for you, don't keep a monogamous person trapped in something they arent okay with. plain and simple; not everything revolves around you and it dang sure doesnt when youre in a relationship. mark deserves justice because this is just wrong and hurtful. mark if youre reading this know you deserve better than this
There are times where I will feel insecure or just negatively about myself for the odd reason, but then I see something like this and realize I could be doing so much worse. Thank you Mark for showing me there will always be someone more pathetic than me
Forward facing Charlie makes me feel vulnerable
Edit: These bot replies are actually insane. Fix this UA-cam
it intimidating
@BILLBOARD we get it, you guys are botted spammers. Nobody cares about your trash music
*PENG* is my inspiration!! My mom told me if i keep making these fucking comments i’m going to be sleeping outside the house
I’m scared
thank you Patrick Bateman very cool
"When you can't stop cheating so you convince your hubby to become a swinger", Shit made me do a double take.
Mother degrade then son would that’s why world is F ked
@Louiebruh1 fatherless behaviour
@Louiebruh1 why 4 times tho
@@f-22raptorlandingzone30 He does it every time he sucks wiener
I needed some outside clarity thank you bro
That guy needs some good friends in his life to tell him she ain’t shit
"We only allow positivity in our life" is code for "If anyone says anything bad about what we do, fuck them" even if it is legit criticism.
It's like going beyond needing a safe space, to needing everywhere to be your safe space.
I've yet to encounter anybody who uses the term "positivity" any other way. That word alone is an instant red flag that means some kind of lying or abuse is incoming.
Any criticism against what shes done here is valid honestly, she has no room to think the way she went about this was right
@@username172 No shit genius
Honestly she could've just said that to sum up their whole relationship and it wouldn't change a thing. Anyone who says that exact sentence unironically is either delusional or manipulative, often both.
"Then I felt super guilty about it"
_proceeds to cheat in every relationship_
lmfao
Damn, she just made the whole squad laughing.
I doubt she's ever felt guilty about cheating. She probably only said it to make herself out to be slightly less of a shitty person.
Women
I always take your vids with a humorous undertone from how you present it… but god damn this is sad for him
This actually broke my heart, he's so obviously hurt but loves her to much be without her
Mark, in the quietest and least certain voice ever: "I'm okay with it now, yeah, right"
He doesn’t love her anymore he is just a prisoner
Open relationships that don't start open almost always end poorly.
Yeah, I know several polyam couples, but this… this is serious disrespect. Her going behind his back is so shitty. That’s not polyamory. That’s cheating. He deserves better, especially since all the need for attention feels so one-sided.
Trooth.
She doesn't need to have sex all the time to feel happier I never understood the appeal of women with higher fertility and hormones. If he starts to get bored with her they will both feel the pain after awhile she should have just told him she did that sort of thing, I think some escorts just forget about consent too, they just think fucking people all day will keep a good man around.
@@saturngirl3673 I know a girl with two uteri, to call the poor little bit “hormonal” is a gross understatement. Her choice in life is either to find a very caring & understanding partner, or to take estrogen blockers until she hits menopause (unless she volunteers for a hysterectomy). For her, I don’t know which fate is worse.
@@locomadman Uh. The uterus doesn't secrete hormones, that's the ovaries. And excess estrogen causes *lowered* sex drive, not increased. So either she had another underlying hormone issue or you're flat out lying.
"We are soulmates...and it took him a while to comprehend me..." "I was really bitchy when I was monogamous." This is maybe the saddest thing I've ever seen. I'm torn between feeling utterly sorry for this guy and thinking if he accepts this hell, he at least somewhat deserves it.
@@noobinator3699 I hear you and agree he's clearly being manipulated big time, but at some point if we are an adult we have to sometimes make tough decisions about toxic people/environments that are hurting us. There is a saying, "are you an active participant in your own rescue?" I think it's time for him to be 🤷♂
@@noobinator3699 Oh Don't get me wrong...I'm so with you - it's really hard to watch, you're 100% right. And you notice the personality differences? That's what crushes me most. The very assertive, controlling & manipulative ones - man or woman - always seem to find and prey on the more introverted and trusting. It is a shame.
“I was heartbroken”
Poor mark, man just wanted a relationship. Man didn’t deserve this
@卐-Alyssa Jasmine Rodarte-卐 that ain’t a reference, that’s getting sued. Good job though
He inherently does. Its entirely on Mark if he does not break off this shackle when he can.
He has done this, to himself
Hey should have divorced her instead of cucking out
@@TheSilentWalkerz That's not how manipulation works
A moment of silence for a fallen comrade
It’s the fact that ppl are saying he’s somehow not the victim here and just needs to walk away like it’s that easy for me
Imagine her coming home and Mark being in the mood, and she says: “sorry honey, I already had my sausage today, a bit worn out now”. Yeah, great relationship
“Sorry Mark but he was so much better than you and I’m exhausted. What? Maybe tomorrow? Sorry my schedule is full this week. You know how I love my side sausage. This makes you happy, right Mark? Right Mark!?” -Christina the penis connoisseur (as long as it’s not Marks)
Women get tired after sex? 😳 I thought because men do more active moves they are the only ones get tired!
that's your takeaway?
@@grgamer8470 that's... not really how sex works?
@@grgamer8470 You can just say you haven't have sex, there's no shame.
Am I the only one that finds hilarious that Mark, who doesn't seem to have his individual thoughts and desires taken into account in the relationship, has a tshirt with INDIVIDUALITY on it?
the irony lmao
LOL
That’s rather serendipitous 😂
im 100% certain she made him wear that shirt to coordinate with her rainbow belt.
That’s how it goes
1:37 She's just like me fr
How mad can I be until it's deemed unreasonable
After having been in a situation where I was being gaslighted and convinced that I was "selfish" for just being monogamous, it's nice to hear Charlie talk about how two people need to come to the conclusion together and one person shouldn't be coerced into it. I know it's logical, but these kinds of people really make you unable to trust your own thoughts, feelings, or judgement.
My friend has had random people trying to convince them of this too. It’s really closed minded that some can’t understand many people prefer monogamy.
@@rainydaze1313 monogamy is preferable for MOST people. Monogamy is normal for humans.
"Yea you wish you would've done this years ago, right?!" Dude, you can literally see the life leaving his eyes. Poor bastard...
Saw this exact couple on think before you speak. He works a lot with this sort of thing
polyamorous relationships always have me like: "ok, which one of you came up with the idea and which one of you cries themselves to sleep every night"
do you know what a poly is?
most the time with poly relationships they’re all poly prior to dating also there relationship isn’t even rlly poly it’s more of an open relationship
Open relationships are absolutely brain-dead, Polyamorous relationships are dumb but I only ever keep my mouth shut if it’s consensual.
@@HatKidPeck why do you think they’re dumb?
Bruh when she talks about cheating, she's like so proud of herself like wtf
she is, it's power dynamic thing, and she's won this one..
It's cause she's a sociopath, she has the tell tale signs. You'd be surprised how many people have sociopathy, it's actually a much bigger problem than most people realize.
Imagine cheating and being a scummy person. Ruins relationships
Bots have ran this “joke” about jack’s into the fucking ground. Whatever shock they expected to get from us is gone now.
@@shagarumedic even jack isnt shocked or that upset about seeing these comments anymore, that’s the point they’ve pushed it to
@Savetion Foodist At this point I'm convinced it's not trolling that you guys are doing but a weird fetish instead if you could type a paragraph out of that shit
@@shagarumedic fr. I used to go to reply section in hope of finding funny conversations or maybe an interesting argument. Now I just try to avoid the reply section as much as I possibly can.
@@shagarumedic And it's the same bot every time, too-- or at least, multiple bots with the exact same name
rip that guy hope he gets set free
Mark's face in the first shot is a thing of wonder, artists and sculptors spend decades trying to convey such a vivid portrait of duality. He's literally two-faced, the left side a mask of strained nonchalance and the right side an empty mournful stare.
There’s no greater proof in my eyes that Mark hates every moment of their situation than from 5:48 to 6:04 . You can see the pain in the poor mans eyes. You can see the self loathing. It’s terrible.
Agree
Dude literally gave out a silent scream for help and she's laughing it off, even topping it with a "I'm so much happier now that my salad is tossed all the way to the mighty hunting grounds"
I can imagine the inner jubilation he had being able to say “you are very bitchy” to her on camera
"This is Christina and she fell in love with Mark."
if she actually fell in love with him she wouldn't have manipulated him. We wish you the best of luck Mark you know that you can do better.
yeah bro, you wouldnt put your "urges" ahead of them a butt ton of times. Or you would at least talk it over with them and try and find a solution. She attempted neither.
Not love whatsoever.
she actually did fall in love with him...because hes so easy to manipulate no one else would've taken her
Honestly with his total lack of self respect I don't believe mark can do better. There's better women he could be dating but Mark seems physically and mentally incapable of arriving at the decision to break up with her and move on.
Can't wait to see this pair on You Are / Not The Father show !
The thumbnail looks like a "I'm so sorry" video. It just does
truly tragic charlie, i hope you can recover from this traumatizing emotionally horrible experience. Rest in peace to that sandwich and your brain for processing this shitty relationship.
@Louiebruh5 your father cries knowing you devoted your life to this
what is going on with those fucking bots bruh💀
Jesus christ I think bots love you
Bruh the fking bots are all over UA-cam needs to fix this lol
@Louiebruh5 damn the yt bots are at it again
Charlie’s 100% spot on with his analysis. Mark looks like merely an appendix to her. Everything about this whole thing is like, „whoooo KRYSTINA! (…and mark)“
Now it reminds me of angler fish lol
@@fishyfish1917 how so?
@@lemonywater2979 Basically in some species of anglerfish, the male is much much smaller than the female and for reproduction they sort of fuse with the female, becoming some sort of "appendix" to it.
Nature is wild.
YASSS QUEENNNN
@@fishyfish1917 Holy shit, that's crazy! Nature really is wild. I gotta look this up.
I’ve never laid eyes on someone I hate more than this woman. Imagine if he was the one doing this.
front facing charlie makes me feel like I'm watching an apology video
I see charlie has escaped the deep sea and fixed his camera
Hello king fake speedrunner
@Savetion Foodist no bitches 🤨
@@Sebastian_43 zero, none, nada, hom no bitches for that mf
@@Oren_Edits no bitches? O_o
YEAH LMAO
You didn’t make a peanut butter and honey sandwich; it was all a dream Charlie.
@ARIANA'S NEIGHBOUR My mom said if i stopped getting high i wouldn’t be a failure, I ripped out her guts 😝
Video has been out for 3 minutes..
PENG is my- SHUT THE FUCK UP
I love when two bots have the same script. Hilarious.
@@NotFckingBen right 😂
charlie's take on anything is so hilarious...dayum charlie's a legend
"If she's with you and another, there us always her mother"- Wise student Gary
I love how she talks about cheating like it’s just something she can’t control. Cheating isn’t as easy as just driving to the liquor store cause you need your fix…there’s so many steps involved in cheating, especially with multiple partners. Poor guy.
Heh, please. For a girl, it’s as easy as opening up a dating app.
@@locomadman the misogynists going crazy in this comment section
@@paige5763 *women gets called out for being a bad person* “misogyny”
@@paige5763 misogyny? No you misunderstand, I’m totally jelly! If you got it, use it, go girl power! And I’m really not being facetious, there’s very much a reason why the dating market, a 13 billion dollar industry, is used by approximately 70% men; women simply don’t need to. (Well, most, anyway.) But please don’t think I hate women, couldn’t be farther from the truth.
@@Max-hs4vu youre completely missing my point. i agree that she is a bad person, there’s nothing misogynistic about pointing out her wrongdoings. it’s the people saying all women are hoes etc and using her bad actions as an excuse to make negative comments about women as a whole
Found myself in a similar situation. Thought about it long enough, and decided "This is not the man I want to be. And if that's what this woman wants, then this is not the woman I need to be with, despite my feelings." It's better to live alone than to convince yourself that a lie is real.
Good for you dude. Keep your head up. With that level of self respect I'm sure you'll find someone you deserve
Proud of you, king... Your bros are here for you
King shit she didn’t deserve you at all
@ exactly. You might not remember the exact actions or even the exact words, but you remember the scars, you remember identifying the problem(s) with the relationship, and realizing that's not the kind of person you want to associate with. At that point, nothing else need be explained, because it's your decision. You know why, that's all that matters.
Good for you man. I wish you the best of luck in your future relationships.
When Mark stops injecting the copium, drops the trash, and gets back on his sigma grindset, we will be here to support him.
amen; count me in. mark deserves better than this :(
That thumbnail is at gunpoint
I was in a relationship like this for a really long time, where my partner said that they were unhappy being monogamous and they wouldn't be able to stay with me if I didn't accept that. Absolutely fucking sucked MASSIVE balls dude, absolutely obliterated my mental health. I drew the line and broke up with them when they hit on my childhood friend. I feel so bad for Mark cuz I've been right there before, you can see the pain in his eyes
Yep. Dude has the 1,000 yard stare. Definitely wearing his pain..
Yeah. He seems to love her while she is a manipulative bitch. He needs to get out of this "relationship" asap.
Similar case here. It was hard to leave, but I finally got out of the toxic relationship. And I'm glad you had the strength to do it as well.
I really cant understand how something like this can even happen. As an incredibly insecure person myself, i let a lot of shit get by and forgive my partner for it. But the second i find out she cheated on me its over. Doesnt matter why she did it. There is no excuse. Happened to me once. My last gf cheated on me and i instantly ended it even tho she didnt want to. But for me the second someone cheats, the relationship is over.
@@_ANDRE. it’s not even cheating sometimes, they just say “I want to be free” or some shit like that and flirt with people, which still isn’t fine I guess but it’s not cheating and you don’t know if they are. In short that’s narcissistic abuse, something really subtle, pretty hard to walk away once you’ve been caught in and trust me, if you don’t know the shit, please for the love of God, read something about it, because it’s very easy to become a victim, male or female, shy or outgoing, weak or strong. I’m still fighting my demons and I can say it’s a pretty shitty experience, heads up kings, you’ve been great surviving al that, I hope you’ll find the things you’re looking for
This is insanely gross and manipulative. Mark is clearly powerless in this dynamic and he should have stood up for himself long ago. If you have obvious issues with monogamy, you shouldn’t lead on someone who wants a monogamous relationship. Guys please draw the line at emotional manipulation. Don’t let yourself be dragged through something miserable because you think you’re in love.
This women will still do what she wants and take half his shit
@@qei431. honestly? I'd let her. Anything to get out of that soul-destroying scenario
The sad truth is we can’t. Men are being downright brutalized by society.
when we do nothing wrong we still get broken over it.
And if we want help nobody cares about our problems.
Even therapists ( also in personal experience aswell as others ) just seem to play everything off as a joke when it’s a guy with issues
If I was mark I’d leave her with no context and take all my stuff. I’d just leave the divorce papers for her to sign.
@@akiri4484 yeah, word.
With that pupil, he should've seen that comming
"you wish you'd done this year's ago right?"
oh no...
If you know you can't stay faithful in a monogamous relationship then either don't get into a relationship at all or find someone who doesn't need to be "convinced" to have an open relationship.
He's been with her for 17 years and unfortunately the longer you stay in an uncomfortable situation the harder it is to leave. I wish him well.
As soon as you cheat, it's over. Like you're done, you lied and went behind their back and broke their trust.
If your partner cheats in you, end it. I've seen so many times where people try to stick it through and it never works. Never. They either cheat again, or the trust just can't be mended back together
Yeah if you lost trust you can't have it back like neeeveeeeer.
It's not always that easy tho, you don't turn off feelings on a whim. Even though logically you might think that way, most likely you'll feel different emotionally. Logics and emotions don't always match up which will lead to chaotic decisions.
My ex partner cheated on me with my former best friend after 7 years, even though he was basically instantly dead to me I couldn't shake of my feelings for her. Took years to get over. Certainly won't do my future partner any favors in the trust department....
Edit: But I do fully agree, just saying it's not that easy hehe..
I’ve seen it work once, only once. So I know it’s theoretically possible, but I don’t quite get it. 🤷🏽♂️
It depends on why the person cheated. Some people cheat because they received something from someone else they were missing at home, and in some instances, they might not even have been aware that they were missing it to communicate to their partner "hey, we need to fix this about us". Some people cheat as a way to punish their partners. Some people cheat and yet are jealous of their partners, wanting to be the only ones sneaking around.
The crucial aspect of having a relationship work after the cheating is both parties being willing to work on rebuilding that trust. The woman on the video clearly doesn't care about that or changing herself in order to not hurt her man, she just wants the man and the parade of cocks. And relationships are about changes. One partner changes, and the other needs to account for that and adapt, support and understand. Sometimes both partners change at the same time and things get tough, but they both can *work* through it. She didn't change, even after seeing how much it hurt her partner. She just made him accept her as she is, and changed the situation to accommodate her without taking his feelings into account.
Easier said than done when you spend almost 20% of your lifespan with someone bro
Doctor: front facing Charlie isn’t real he can’t hurt you.
Front facing Charlie:
He’s so quiet and reserved, he’s just learned to sit in the corner and take everything that’s pushed on him. I hope he fights back and just says “fuck you” and leaves
How can she say she’s struggled with monogamy all her life like it’s a disease. The entitlement, arrogance, disrespect and lack of self-awareness on show is pitiful to see