Couldn't agree more, glad it's not just me 😅 it's called a love letter to all of those old characters but, despite them all vaguely getting something to do in the very meta plot, none of them particularly feel like their original characters, and the film has nothing heartfelt to say about them. Feels more like the shallow cash grab veneer of a love letter, than an actual one
I agree with this. Jackman was great and there were like three or four genuinely hilarious and sometimes quite clever jokes but there are also a lot of boring exposition about the timelines, running gags that are not as funny as they think they are, some clumsy narrative (both visual and in story) and characters that were not very well used. I actually quite liked Cassandra Nova and I think the actress was really convincing in the role but she feels underused here, maybe the movie is too silly for the character or maybe the plot is just not interested in her, but ultimately she came off as another kind of forgettable villain and it was not the actress’ fault this time around.
Glad to see I’m not the only one to feel this way about D&W. It’s certainly entertaining with these characters and these actors together, but this time you could tell it was doing the heavy lifting for a messy story. The amount of work to bring back wolverine, then to take forever to explain what made him the worst one only to tell and not show baffled me. The amount of times where a character has to basically stop the story to explain why the next scene suddenly has stakes was what frustrated me. There were the pieces together that could’ve made a truly great Deadpool & Wolverine movie, but to me it’s just an entertaining mess and the weakest of the three Deadpool movies. The action and humor were still pretty great, and some genuinely excellent acting from both leads.
Yeah, this about sums up my thoughts on it. A lot of people I know are trying to say this is some sort of Marvel-saving masterpiece, but, while I did enjoy it, it’s really not allat.
Thank you for being honest, and you are brave because contrarians will come for you in the comments - its not awful, the first time you watch this film, if you are a comic book fan, you will be hype, cameos are great, but the story is non-existent - the mask and costume are awful - people want Wolverine to be comics accurate but not 5'3" - people won't be honest about this film until the hype calms down - I would watch this for the cameos and certain scenes a few time, but I have no desire to watch Deadpool 1 or 2 ever again, and this film will join those...
I don't have superhero fatigue but I do have mutliverse fatigue. This film really leans far too hard on that. I feel like this movie should close the book on it because if they keep it up until Secret Wars it's going to really feel played out. If they still plan to do the Secret wars story form the comics they would need three movies to properly tell the saga. Movie 1: A threat is causing incursions and the Multiverse to collapse. The heros stop the threat but the mutliverse is still collapsing. Movie 2: With the Mutliverse collapsing they need to find a way to save everyone form the end of reality. Movie 3: Battleworld is born and the heros have to struggle to remember who they are and have to recreate a new universe to live in.
For real. I would be down with super hero movies that go back to basics like the raimi spider man movies, sick of the multiverse and sick of crossover events making movies feel less like they can be enjoyed as contained works. Logan is a perfect example of a superhero sequel that can be enjoyed on its own, it definitely gives fans of previous movies a lot to enjoy but Logan is a great movie in its own right, modern super hero movies are almost never like that anymore.
I really enjoyed the movie. The Disney-ness and multiverse-ness of it all did weigh it down tremendously, but I think it did a pretty tremendous job squeezing all that in considering. Could it have been a better movie without all that? Probably, but we can't have that movie because this is where we are. I was honestly shocked I did enjoy it so much. the shocking part was just how far Disney let the film go. The action scenes were absolutely amazing. These were the fights I would have wanted in this movie. The least favorite was the 3 cameos you mentioned which is really more like 5 and then really like 15, but that particular 3 cameos were bad in my opinion, but the final of those 3 was the absolute worst. Over all I thought the movie looked too brown, like modern video games, but it's hard not to when a large part of your movie is in the desert. I'd be happy to not see another desert in a film for a decade+. The rest of the scenes I really liked the color and it popped well in the theater. Sure it's a mess, but a fairly beautiful fun mess. Plus as a very middle aged fan that started reading X-Men when I was about 9, I got to see some things I NEVER thought I'd ever live to see on the big screen related to Wolverine, so I am happy about that. I do bear a little shame over this movie though because I bought a $40 popcorn bucket of Headpool. It honestly looks kind of great on my shelf, but it still feels like I committed some sort of sin against humanity doing so. Maybe that's just me.
I feel like it's a love letter and a farewell to the Fox Marvel movies, and my wife looked at me during it and said "maybe we do need a Channing Tatum Gambit movie" and she hates Channing Tatum, so I feel like they did something right.
I think for me the movie hit on something from the comics, but played it a little too subtly. Something from the more emotional Wade stories is how much self loathing he has. He genuinely hates himself on multiple levels. And I think this is part of the relationship between Wade and Logan in this movie, as well as how they leave everything heavily unstated for both. That part of it isn't the details, all the hows and whys of what happened, but just where we find them now and how they feel about it. [Remainder might be mildly spoiler-y if only for making you think about specific films] I can see your point especially in how the movie is ALSO trying to be this big eulogy for the Fox comic movie history, which has some significance if only because it was one of the grand pappies of the line. The first X-men movie came out in 2000 and is arguably when this whole ball got rolling (with one very specific earlier movie that is ALSO important to this particular legacy). But trying to have BOTH the meta-eulogy and the self-worth story means they're both fighting for air against each other sometimes. They occasionally play into each other, but they're more often shoving each other to the side for the spotlight. And I'll certainly say it didn't have the more direct impact of the first two DPs. I ultimately left with a better impression of it than it seems you did, it worked for me on the whole. But this could just be the fact that I'm a MASSIVE Wade fanboy. But I do get where your criticisms come from.
So yeah all the cameos got overly long explanations, while they just assume you've seen Loki and need no introduction to the staggering scale of the concept of the TVA, and what its role really is since the end of Loki, which would be interesting to people who have seen Loki. Of course what it DID explain about how the TVA works was kinda dumb and bad and I think the TVA needs to be just left alone for a very long time. Some awesome stuff in it, but "kind of a mess" is an entirely fair assessment.
Agreed. It’s a fun movie that moved me with laughs and making me giddy. The film is too long. Too many useless cameos and just muddies its own story when wolverine enters. It’s the product of 5 writers
i wasn't expecting a great story (and it wasn't, not by a long stretch), and i will say Hugh stole the whole dang show. Best part is they don't insult the fanbase because we seriously live in a world where thats a legit positive point. But yes, it is mostly a turn your brain off story and just watch the characters mess around which i will take points off for. In order for a movie to be good, you need good story AND good characters. You can't have just one or the other it has to be both. A lot of jokes didn't land and go figure, the worst ones carried on and on. I do think it went too much with the suggestive talk (especially that one cameo) to get that R rating but the action scenes themselves were fun enough. and sheesh with 5+ writers it really feels like it went through that corp machine where it lost a ton of flavor that could have been gold. oh well, it was nice seeing Hugh for the more hurrah. This is the last Marvel/DC/super hero movie i'll be seeing in a long, long time.
I never loved either of the previous Deadpool movies. Was hoping this would be the first one I *really* vibed with but was disappointed. The jokes mostly landed, but the action was mediocre and for the third time in a row, Wade’s character arc didn’t really hit the way the movie wanted it to.
Take away the cameos and disect the film's "plot" and it's pretty evident the anchor being plot elemnt makes no sense. Even the fighting is lackluster theres no stakes since they cant die
Explain how it is amazing. How did Deadpool and Wolverine defeat Cassandra Nova in the 3rd? Did Cassandra have a backstory one that's shown not told? Deadpool 1 and 2 had a heart in the story. Here it's lackluster, unnecessary scenes, compilation scenes, unnecessary to the plot cameos. It's just another mcu world ending multiverse involving dookie of a film
I've never seen any Deadpool movie before and maybe about 5 Marvel movies in general, but my girlfriend wanted to see this so watched it at home and we both fell asleep the first time. A week later she still wanted to see it so we started it again about halfway through (didn't want to suffer through the same scenes again) and I again fell asleep. I agree with you about the exposition dumps. They're mind-numbing. I liked the violence even though most of it looked kinda bad. I did still enjoy Hugh Jackman's Wolverine. He's the best part of the movie for me and felt he needed to be the main character. My girlfriend also thought it was just ok. Despite the tons of exposition we really had no idea what was going on
I respect your opinion, not every movie is for everyone. To me Ironman 3 doesnt exist even many ppl found it great. But calling a back strret boys opening... I mean NSYNC will be desapointed. But jokes a side, i liked a lot this movie, was fun and its not for everyone, and YES this movie es a MESS, but a fun mess.
I paused this at 3 seconds in as soon as I heard your voice, I knew you were an edgy Grifter who I won't listen to. I will now go and watch this 9 times over 6 weeks.
I will gladly listen to your analysis of things about which I do not care.
Nsync not backstreet boys
This felt like a love letter to fox early 2000 comic book movies it’s a mess but an absolute blast
The movie is all over the place but hilarious
Couldn't agree more, glad it's not just me 😅 it's called a love letter to all of those old characters but, despite them all vaguely getting something to do in the very meta plot, none of them particularly feel like their original characters, and the film has nothing heartfelt to say about them. Feels more like the shallow cash grab veneer of a love letter, than an actual one
I agree with this. Jackman was great and there were like three or four genuinely hilarious and sometimes quite clever jokes but there are also a lot of boring exposition about the timelines, running gags that are not as funny as they think they are, some clumsy narrative (both visual and in story) and characters that were not very well used. I actually quite liked Cassandra Nova and I think the actress was really convincing in the role but she feels underused here, maybe the movie is too silly for the character or maybe the plot is just not interested in her, but ultimately she came off as another kind of forgettable villain and it was not the actress’ fault this time around.
Glad to see I’m not the only one to feel this way about D&W. It’s certainly entertaining with these characters and these actors together, but this time you could tell it was doing the heavy lifting for a messy story. The amount of work to bring back wolverine, then to take forever to explain what made him the worst one only to tell and not show baffled me. The amount of times where a character has to basically stop the story to explain why the next scene suddenly has stakes was what frustrated me.
There were the pieces together that could’ve made a truly great Deadpool & Wolverine movie, but to me it’s just an entertaining mess and the weakest of the three Deadpool movies. The action and humor were still pretty great, and some genuinely excellent acting from both leads.
Yeah, this about sums up my thoughts on it. A lot of people I know are trying to say this is some sort of Marvel-saving masterpiece, but, while I did enjoy it, it’s really not allat.
Thank you for being honest, and you are brave because contrarians will come for you in the comments - its not awful, the first time you watch this film, if you are a comic book fan, you will be hype, cameos are great, but the story is non-existent - the mask and costume are awful - people want Wolverine to be comics accurate but not 5'3" - people won't be honest about this film until the hype calms down - I would watch this for the cameos and certain scenes a few time, but I have no desire to watch Deadpool 1 or 2 ever again, and this film will join those...
Oh shut up.
I don't have superhero fatigue but I do have mutliverse fatigue. This film really leans far too hard on that. I feel like this movie should close the book on it because if they keep it up until Secret Wars it's going to really feel played out.
If they still plan to do the Secret wars story form the comics they would need three movies to properly tell the saga.
Movie 1: A threat is causing incursions and the Multiverse to collapse. The heros stop the threat but the mutliverse is still collapsing.
Movie 2: With the Mutliverse collapsing they need to find a way to save everyone form the end of reality.
Movie 3: Battleworld is born and the heros have to struggle to remember who they are and have to recreate a new universe to live in.
For real. I would be down with super hero movies that go back to basics like the raimi spider man movies, sick of the multiverse and sick of crossover events making movies feel less like they can be enjoyed as contained works.
Logan is a perfect example of a superhero sequel that can be enjoyed on its own, it definitely gives fans of previous movies a lot to enjoy but Logan is a great movie in its own right, modern super hero movies are almost never like that anymore.
I really enjoyed the movie. The Disney-ness and multiverse-ness of it all did weigh it down tremendously, but I think it did a pretty tremendous job squeezing all that in considering. Could it have been a better movie without all that? Probably, but we can't have that movie because this is where we are. I was honestly shocked I did enjoy it so much. the shocking part was just how far Disney let the film go. The action scenes were absolutely amazing. These were the fights I would have wanted in this movie. The least favorite was the 3 cameos you mentioned which is really more like 5 and then really like 15, but that particular 3 cameos were bad in my opinion, but the final of those 3 was the absolute worst.
Over all I thought the movie looked too brown, like modern video games, but it's hard not to when a large part of your movie is in the desert. I'd be happy to not see another desert in a film for a decade+. The rest of the scenes I really liked the color and it popped well in the theater.
Sure it's a mess, but a fairly beautiful fun mess. Plus as a very middle aged fan that started reading X-Men when I was about 9, I got to see some things I NEVER thought I'd ever live to see on the big screen related to Wolverine, so I am happy about that.
I do bear a little shame over this movie though because I bought a $40 popcorn bucket of Headpool. It honestly looks kind of great on my shelf, but it still feels like I committed some sort of sin against humanity doing so. Maybe that's just me.
Shots don't lack depth of field: people lack depth of field.
I feel like it's a love letter and a farewell to the Fox Marvel movies, and my wife looked at me during it and said "maybe we do need a Channing Tatum Gambit movie" and she hates Channing Tatum, so I feel like they did something right.
0/10 wont see again. I should have gotten paid to watch this music video.
Please remember the following ratings:
- Deadpool: 9/10
- Deadpool 2: 8/10
- Deadpool 3: 7.5/10
I think for me the movie hit on something from the comics, but played it a little too subtly. Something from the more emotional Wade stories is how much self loathing he has. He genuinely hates himself on multiple levels. And I think this is part of the relationship between Wade and Logan in this movie, as well as how they leave everything heavily unstated for both.
That part of it isn't the details, all the hows and whys of what happened, but just where we find them now and how they feel about it.
[Remainder might be mildly spoiler-y if only for making you think about specific films]
I can see your point especially in how the movie is ALSO trying to be this big eulogy for the Fox comic movie history, which has some significance if only because it was one of the grand pappies of the line. The first X-men movie came out in 2000 and is arguably when this whole ball got rolling (with one very specific earlier movie that is ALSO important to this particular legacy).
But trying to have BOTH the meta-eulogy and the self-worth story means they're both fighting for air against each other sometimes. They occasionally play into each other, but they're more often shoving each other to the side for the spotlight. And I'll certainly say it didn't have the more direct impact of the first two DPs.
I ultimately left with a better impression of it than it seems you did, it worked for me on the whole. But this could just be the fact that I'm a MASSIVE Wade fanboy. But I do get where your criticisms come from.
So yeah all the cameos got overly long explanations, while they just assume you've seen Loki and need no introduction to the staggering scale of the concept of the TVA, and what its role really is since the end of Loki, which would be interesting to people who have seen Loki. Of course what it DID explain about how the TVA works was kinda dumb and bad and I think the TVA needs to be just left alone for a very long time.
Some awesome stuff in it, but "kind of a mess" is an entirely fair assessment.
Agreed. It’s a fun movie that moved me with laughs and making me giddy.
The film is too long. Too many useless cameos and just muddies its own story when wolverine enters. It’s the product of 5 writers
10:32 Rosenpool and Wolverstern are dead
The plot felt like a bad episode of Star Trek TNG.
So it's like a fox marvel movie then.
Bloody awful movie. It was painful to watch, and I could not wait for it to end, so I could go home.
i wasn't expecting a great story (and it wasn't, not by a long stretch), and i will say Hugh stole the whole dang show. Best part is they don't insult the fanbase because we seriously live in a world where thats a legit positive point. But yes, it is mostly a turn your brain off story and just watch the characters mess around which i will take points off for. In order for a movie to be good, you need good story AND good characters. You can't have just one or the other it has to be both. A lot of jokes didn't land and go figure, the worst ones carried on and on. I do think it went too much with the suggestive talk (especially that one cameo) to get that R rating but the action scenes themselves were fun enough. and sheesh with 5+ writers it really feels like it went through that corp machine where it lost a ton of flavor that could have been gold. oh well, it was nice seeing Hugh for the more hurrah. This is the last Marvel/DC/super hero movie i'll be seeing in a long, long time.
I never loved either of the previous Deadpool movies. Was hoping this would be the first one I *really* vibed with but was disappointed.
The jokes mostly landed, but the action was mediocre and for the third time in a row, Wade’s character arc didn’t really hit the way the movie wanted it to.
I agree
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Oh my god it’s a superhero movie with flying people and characters that can’t die. Please just have fun for once.
Such a horrible movie with some of the weakest jokes i have ever heard
? It was not good to
me . Not funny. & nothing reakky hapoens other than cameos
Great video.
This movie sucked, imagine if it didn't have all of those cool cameos
This movie was amazing lmfao what are you smoking
If he was smoking something he would've probably found it amazing.
Rage bait
Take away the cameos and disect the film's "plot" and it's pretty evident the anchor being plot elemnt makes no sense. Even the fighting is lackluster theres no stakes since they cant die
Explain how it is amazing. How did Deadpool and Wolverine defeat Cassandra Nova in the 3rd? Did Cassandra have a backstory one that's shown not told? Deadpool 1 and 2 had a heart in the story. Here it's lackluster, unnecessary scenes, compilation scenes, unnecessary to the plot cameos. It's just another mcu world ending multiverse involving dookie of a film
I've never seen any Deadpool movie before and maybe about 5 Marvel movies in general, but my girlfriend wanted to see this so watched it at home and we both fell asleep the first time. A week later she still wanted to see it so we started it again about halfway through (didn't want to suffer through the same scenes again) and I again fell asleep. I agree with you about the exposition dumps. They're mind-numbing. I liked the violence even though most of it looked kinda bad. I did still enjoy Hugh Jackman's Wolverine. He's the best part of the movie for me and felt he needed to be the main character. My girlfriend also thought it was just ok. Despite the tons of exposition we really had no idea what was going on
I lost any semblance of desire to watch this film when the traitors decided a wonderful gag was making a pan character a sex pest.
I respect your opinion, not every movie is for everyone. To me Ironman 3 doesnt exist even many ppl found it great. But calling a back strret boys opening... I mean NSYNC will be desapointed. But jokes a side, i liked a lot this movie, was fun and its not for everyone, and YES this movie es a MESS, but a fun mess.
Agree it was a mess
First And Wont Be The Last Time...🥇
they put all their effort into fan service. they did a good job. Yes, its not Citizen Kane
I paused this at 3 seconds in as soon as I heard your voice, I knew you were an edgy Grifter who I won't listen to.
I will now go and watch this 9 times over 6 weeks.
Enjoy my dude! Hope you like it 😊
He's a "grifter" for giving a well thought-out critique of a movie you liked?
Imagine being such a fanboy that you can't handle a bit critique...
@@Raidoton I am not a fan boy, I've not even seen the film yet, but I know a few who have.
But I've got a knack for smelling bullshit a mile off.
I thought it was great. Stop being a grifter.
People are allowed to have opinions
Stop being such a fanboy.
The entire cinema where i watch the movie LOVED IT get out of here with this trash opinion
Okay fanboy who can't handle any critique. Movie was okay. 7/10. Not nearly as good as the previous two.
Rubbish, not worth to follow
This movie kinda sucked honestly. 🫤
How does it feel to be wrong
@@WE-te3vp I wouldn’t know 🤷🏿♂️
@@kmacadaeg7 well your wrong. As movies that suck don't make this much money
@@WE-te3vp That’s just bc people were starving for a movie without woke shit in it.
@@WE-te3vptypical marvel fan - "you can't dislike something I like"