Separate art from artists , if someone loves Ezra , it's because of his acting and not his morals , also the fact that he never made a promise that he would not harass PPL , we assumed that His career isn't there due to him being a good person so it shouldn't be destroyed because of him being a bad person
Flash: We did not bring back Henry Cavill, nor anyone else you guys wanted. Sorry. Deadpool: Here Henry Cavill as Wolverine. I do not want put ideas in your head, but he might became the new Wolverine after Secret Wars finished.
Separate art from artists , if someone loves Ezra , it's because of his acting and not his morals , also the fact that he never made a promise that he would not harass PPL , we assumed that His career isn't there due to him being a good person so it shouldn't be destroyed because of him being a bad person
@@ArthurHendrickx-l1i when did I say that those good PPL deserved it ? I am just saying that he never said that he won't do crime , his career wasn't built on him having a good character , he assumed that he won't do crime and got offended when he did so , that's a very toxic trait
It also doesn’t hurt that both Jackman and Raynolds appear to be really nice, while Miller appears to be a violent jerk. No matter how much they don’t want it to, the actors’ personalities affect the popularity of a film.
"We didn't just go to the cinema to see Deadpool and Wolverine. We went to the movie to see how these two characters would integrate into the Marve Multiverse." ... I just wanted to see my two favourite anti-heroes beat up each other and everyone else getting in their way, R-rated. That, and adult jokes. I totally got what I wanted and walked out of the cinema a happy woman but now I feel kinda dumb :'D
That’s why I love when a character have history because it’s build to moment like this , if the spiderman cross over with Toby Andrew and Tom was like the DCEU the movie would not work but we witness the evolution of each spiderman and it’s had made the movie a lot more intriguing
Dc is forever stained because of Zack Snyder… It sucks because he made a masterpiece like Watchmen. Hopefully James Gunns Superman movie will be erasing that stained image we have on DC
It's not only the Problem, it's Flash debut movie and you start at a Multiverse movie?? Pretty much rushing to multiverse trend if you ask me. Right now Marvel has a really good roster of well known Super Heroes. DC on other hand is stuck with. Batman and Superman. Both has many more movies and few solo games than any of other DC heroes. Wolverine has a solo game, Deadpool has a solo game, Xmen has a solo game etc and etc. DC only has Batman game, but Superman and Suicide Squad game sucks.
Apart from Thomas wayne being the batman in the alternate timeline, it was pretty much the same thing. The world gets destroyed and there's no hope for saving that timeline
Because Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman have more charisma in their big toe than 100 Ezra Millers have Because Deadpool and Wolverine wasn't selling nostalgia-bait cameos as its main point Because Deadpool and Wolverine isn't the last of a failed franchise, its a standalone
@@MuthukrishnanBellie what do you mean, this aint even an uncommon take, dune is very long, with most of the scenes just being timothy shalomet staring at sand, with a fuckboy face, most of the movie is a big pile of nothing, and the pacing is too slow, it is not a bad movie, but comapared to dvw, it is shit
One reason. You are not supposed to treat Deadpool seriously. But they did. And all the nonsense makes the movie perfect. You are supposed to treat The Flash seriously. But they didn't, and all the nonsense makes the movie trash
I agree. Both Wade and Logan's arc, God, I love it. I always have tears when Wolverine says, "For the first time in my life, I'm proud to wear this suit. It means I am an X-man. I am the X-man. The Wolverine." I literally have tears imagining it and writing it now. Even Hugh had tears.
Deadpool interacting with Wolverine was a passion project for Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman Flashpoint is a storyline Warner Bros wanted to shit out, as an excuse to reboot their verse
Part of me wish this Wolverine is from the X-men Wolverine Origins timeline which is its actual separate universe. That explains why Wolverine recognizes Deadpool. And thinks he's so drunk he's hallucinating a dead Wade Wilson he killed all those years before in the nuclear power plant. And a meta joke and redemption on being the worse Wolverine.
@@alkebulanlion6198 i used to do that too. My 12 years old brain kicked felt betrayed when I find out his name is wolverine. But I was confused since he always make X with his sharp thingyyy
A. Everyone loves Ryan and Hugh, and the movie actually made people happy with fun enjoyable moments. B. Everyone hates Ezra miller, and the DCEU was doomed with no sense of purpose or direction, making the flash a pointless movie.
I like how both these movies have one of the cameos which is an actor set to play the character in a never-produced movie yet one of them is really funny and it gave the real actor time to shine in his role (Channing Tatum as Gambit) while another is a Beowulf-like CGI puppet staring in a universe sphere for 5 seconds (Nicolas Cage as Superman)
I agree about the social media push, it was very good for Deadpool and Wolverine. I was going to skip it, but the hype on Twitter and Hot Ones episode with Ryan and Hugh got me to watch it lol. I had a blast! One of my favorite Marvel movies in a long time.
Separate art from artists , if someone loves Ezra , it's because of his acting and not his morals , also the fact that he never made a promise that he would not harass PPL , we assumed that His career isn't there due to him being a good person so it shouldn't be destroyed because of him being a bad person
@@Yui-ys5cv Mate. If you are not keeping yourself out of trouble and have no morals for the people who invest in you, you are just a disgrace to yourself and to the people people who rely on or depend on you. It's not only for business it applies to every part of human life. Stop supporting the wrong people.
@@nafi.j who said I support him in doing all this , it's wrong but I didn't start dceu because of Ezra and won't miss a dceu movie because of him either
@@Yui-ys5cvseperating art from artist is ok but the problem always lies in public image Nobody will want to see yoyr art if they know youve done some horendeous shid
I’ve had time to digest D&W; the plot isn’t much to write about but everything else was done so well, especially the characters, that it doesn’t even matter.
Deadpool’s depiction in X-Men Origins: Wolverine discouraged fans of that character just as much as She-Hulk’s depiction in her show discouraged fans of that character
The best part I love about D&W is the creative division goes unchained so wildly... It's like the studio said "here the money, go make a Deadpool movie as you want, just don't ruin other movies arc on the multiverse" that's why the gore is top notch and the cameo is unpredictable...
The problem with the flash is the actor who played the flash was a bad guy and a pervert. And the CGI was shitty. But also blame Warner bros and James Gunn for ruining that movie. And plus there were a lot of missed opportunities for example they should’ve had both versions of Batman played by Michael Keaton and Ben affleck in one scene where they both team up with the flash. That alone would have been enough to make the movie better.
but then they will have to actually pay these actors. Every single batman actors (from the good to the sheet.. George Clooney) have end up being top forever A-lister, the pay for those cameos would have been crazyyyyy. The same can be said for DP V W, but that's Ryan and Hugh's passion project, and these cameos are done with their friends, the movie is promising and MCU at least don't have a consistent history of just making sheet life actions, I guess that makes the actors not as hostile to the idea of cameo...
Yep. That ending scene was James Gunn's way of saying that Ezra Miller's Flash is trapped in the timeline of DC flops & will never be able to return to the primary DC universe. The superheroes in his new timeline are: Nicolas Cage's Superman, George Clooney's Batman, Chris O'Donnel's Robin, Alicia Silverstone's Batgirl, Adrianne Palicki's Wonder Woman, Ryan Reynold's Green Lantern, Halle Berry's Catwoman, Shaq's Steel, The CW's Birds of Prey, The CW's Naomi, the 70s Shazam & Isis, the 80s Justice League from the 2 live-action Legends of the Superfriends TV movies, the 90s Swamp Thing & Human Target, and probably a few more that I've forgotten along the way.
I believe the true downfall of the DCEU was in 2 parts: -Warner Bros: Not being able to manage a paper hat, let alone a connected universe. Proof being their constant interference and course corrections. -The second are fans/general audience with the addition of the MCU. I've seen many people, both UA-camrs and in comments (some who still think the same and others who regret their previous thoughts with their retropective reviews) who didn't like the DCEU BECAUSE it wasn't like the MCU. Questions like, why can't DC make light hearted fun quippy films like Marvel, or Marvel has a formula so DC SHOULD do what Marvel is doing. (Which would lead to WB's further interference) Then there were regular DC fans who didn't like Superman not being optimistic or Batman killing, using Christian Bale's Batman as the golden example of the "no kill rule." (Ignoring the fact that, at the time, every live action Batman, including Christian Bale's, all killed... Like, a lot. And a heck of a lot more than Afflecks) It's a shame because there's a quote from Zack Snyder that I really liked, which is: Superman isn't the Superman we know YET and Batman isn't the Batman we know ANYMORE. And at least for Batman this 100% makes sense. In the comics after Jason Todd died, Batman did get far more brutal and was slipping into the darkness and only Tim Drake becoming the new Robin was able to bring Bruce back to the light. The DCEU Batman, didn't have any future Robins, so he just kept falling further and further into darkness. It was only his failure with Superman and his interactions with the League that brought this version of Bruce back to the light. And I 100% believe they become the characters we know at the end of Zack Snyder's Justice League.
Henry Cavill, thru no fault of his own, wasn't playing Superman, he was just some guy from Krypton. Superman's defining characteristic is his moral code, it's what makes him interesting, resisting the urge to just go all out. He knows he is stronger/faster/tougher, the challenge for him is not to go overboard with that. Take all that away and you get, well, Zod.
Wolverine and Deadpool both had multiple movies setting them up as great characters that warranted a crossover, The Flash just had two versions of the SAME movie where he wasn't the main character. Not even a SINGLE solo movie there's already a crossover. That's just one reason.
The biggest reason: For the first solo movie of the Flash, they shoved too much in the audience's gave. Unlike with Deadpool, his first was just trying to find a guy for revenge.
Alright by supergrass when young barry first used his powes was good, and salute your situation by the racontuers when the fight the kyrtpons in the speed was fun
Had they just remade the animated flashpoint it would’ve been a hit for sure. Jeffrey dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne. Bringing back aquaman and Wonder Woman and have them fighting. That would’ve been great.
Forgetting several Major points - The Rock tried for a power play that killed not only his movie but also destroyed the follow-up to the very success Shazam! Add trying to make Blue Beetle a thing, Cavill out, & the announcement of killing the DCEU right before the Flash movie (“They’re rebooting everything so what’s the point?”) all doomed it before it even hit the screen.
0:24 yeah cameos from past movies only thing is one of the actors died long ago and had an actor to continue the story why didn't include brandon routh is the question instead of cgi christopher reeve
Yeah bro i was also thinking about that they are very much similar, like flash and Deadpool are the guys whose timeline is in trouble so they go to a superhero ( Batman and Wolverine) because he is their only hope. But that superhero doesn't want to help them because they have a conflict within themselves but then the he resolves his conflict and tries to help them. Then eventually he puts his iconic suit and the other guy ( flash and deadpool) praises him.
Separate art from artists , if someone loves Ezra , it's because of his acting and not his morals , also the fact that he never made a promise that he would not harass PPL , we assumed that His career isn't there due to him being a good person so it shouldn't be destroyed because of him being a bad person
Why it's better? Because it's full of cameo from talented actors with nostalgia character and their cgi are great. On the other hand the Flash movie suck because it had Fcking two worst actor Ezra Miller and Gal Gadot in it. Let's not forget about the bad cgi that ruins the moment in the movie.
I have no optimism at all for secret wars, I dont believe they can make a cohesive story about krulls, they are too heavy handed now. Also peacemaker was so good its limited viewership was a crime, its literally one of the best superhero shows ever
Flash failed bec warner is making tv series out of their big league dc superheroes. Green arrow, superman, flash, supergirl. Etc.The audience were not surprised anymore and expect less since they already got used to the flash in tv series. Unlike Mcu everything are surprises.
Ezra Miller was the millstone around that movie's neck. Had they used Grant Gustin's Flash and the ensemble around him, it _might_ have worked. It sure as shit couldn't have been any worse, anyway.
My problem with the flash movie was they completely messed up the flashpoint story the original flashpoint story had nothing to do with the multiverse and it's pointless without the reverse flash
Why Deadpool and Wolverine is a HIT and The Flash BOMBED? Because one of them was a really great movie and the other one was a terrible, starred a criminal and had bad CGI. Thanks for Watching Like Share Sub!!
Plus even if the story of Deadpool 3 was weaker than the previous movies, Marvel knew they needed to promote this movie as much as possible. What does the Flash have? Umm boring Cgi supermen and no creative popcorn buckets
Deadpool & Wolverine didn’t have Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds causing chaos in Hawaii and kidnapping people, the cameos were actually played by real actors, Henry Cavill was actually in it, the CGI was leaps and bounds better than The Flash, and the writing was a lot better than The Flash
I thought it was fitting that Miller’s Flash wound up in Clooney’s Batman, because that assures we’ll never see him as Flash ever again. The two worst versions of both characters, together in oblivion.
It’s been said that during filming of the first X-men movie in 2000, Bryan Singer did not want any of the actors to read up on their characters. Kevin Feige on the other hand would sneak Hugh Jackman Wolverine comics and thank god he did! Poor guy carried that moive franchise all by himself for the first ten years!
I enjoyed the Flash. I didn’t care about Ezra’s flash. I wanted Michael Keaton’s Batman. I got Michael Keaton’s Batman. I’m satisfied. D&W was definitely better though Edit: also the ending of The Flash is more than a bad joke, it’s karma. Ezra Mugshot’s Flash still didn’t learn his lesson by the end of the film, and continued to screw up the timeline; therefore, his punishment is to be sent to the worst timeline conceivable…the Clooneyverse.
As someone who enjoyed both films, I would say that Deadpool and Wolverine did their multiverse concept with legacy cameos much better than Flash did. Deadpool and Wolverine not only brought back the old Electra, Blade, Johnny Storm, and the unmade Gambit, but they also brought back the original actors playing them, and made them integral to the plot. The only thing that would have made it better, is that they brought back Nicolas Cage's Ghost Rider. The Flash brought back different beloved variations of Batman and Superman, but only one was actually played by the original actor (Michael Keaton) that was actually integral to the plot, while the others were just CGI cameos that contribute nothing but being a cameo. I like both films, but Deadpool and Wolverine was objectively better.
Although they might be similar on the surface level. The flash has a lot of problems regarding the main actor, the CGI, the use of cameos and the controversies of the studio at that time.
The most important difference, the Flash gave up, accepted that there was nothing he could do to to save that universe. Deadpool and Wolverine didn't give up. The Flash accepting the futility of the situation would be fine if it was a science fiction movie, but it's a betrayal of everything that superheroes stand for.
You do know that the movie is based on the Flashpoint storyline where Barry had to accept that his mother had to die. It be like saying the animated movie is terrible because Barry did the same exact thing. I love Christopher Reeve's 1st Superman movie but ending was a copout. I wasn't much of a fan of The Flash movie but I thought the ending was fine where he had to make the sacrifice. Sometimes, superheroes can't save everyone. Dr.Strange tried in that one episode of What If and his actions ended up destroying the universe.
Wolverine is always a huge draw and with the DCMU coming to a close and so many controversies surrounding it, it obviously who the winner would have been.
Little known dc fact. There is a previous Flash tv serires which features a certain Trickster played by Mark Hamil.(It also features an early appearance by Jerry Ryan) Its obviously hokey with 1970s special effects but it makes a really good collection.
Perfect casting, spot on charecter representation, ligitimite love/respect for charecters, incredible fan service moments are just a few reasons it was an infinitly superior movie. D&W was the funnest movie experience in years, flash was borderline unwatchable.
Ezra Miller - Criminal
Ryan Reynolds & Hugh Jackman - Not criminals
Simple as that.
Separate art from artists , if someone loves Ezra , it's because of his acting and not his morals , also the fact that he never made a promise that he would not harass PPL , we assumed that
His career isn't there due to him being a good person so it shouldn't be destroyed because of him being a bad person
@@Yui-ys5cv Ok but his acting is still not that great, especially as Barry
@@nikeiyomiuri2728 criticizing for bad acting is ok but him being a criminal has nothing to do with the movie , that's all I am saying
@@Yui-ys5cv it did hurt the film's box office though
@@Yui-ys5cv It technically does since it was advertised to be "So good that you'll forget his crimes"
Flash: We did not bring back Henry Cavill, nor anyone else you guys wanted. Sorry.
Deadpool: Here Henry Cavill as Wolverine. I do not want put ideas in your head, but he might became the new Wolverine after Secret Wars finished.
That would suck because by the time that happens he’ll be like 45
@@bofawhatsbofa4593 They could make 3-5 movie with him. Than replace him with X-23 with an epic heroic sacrifice.
Nah we’re happy with Hugh as Wolverine.
@@minniemoniekookie And?
@@Vilgax00 Make the dots connect dude 😒
….and it means we don’t want Henry as Wolverine 🙄
"Maybe you didn't like Ezra Miller's Flash."
I don't like Ezra Miller period.
Separate art from artists , if someone loves Ezra , it's because of his acting and not his morals , also the fact that he never made a promise that he would not harass PPL , we assumed that
His career isn't there due to him being a good person so it shouldn't be destroyed because of him being a bad person
what was his crimes again? cause I feel like you guys paint him as hitler
@@Yui-ys5cv multiple good ppl their career is Destroyed 'cause one mistake. But a bad dude can have a carreer?
@@ArthurHendrickx-l1i when did I say that those good PPL deserved it ?
I am just saying that he never said that he won't do crime , his career wasn't built on him having a good character , he assumed that he won't do crime and got offended when he did so , that's a very toxic trait
no one does
Deadpool: Listen to me, DCEU. How long does it take for you to regenerate?
DCEU: "Regenerate"?
Deadpool, Dogpool & Wolverine: ......
Best comment of today 😂😂
😂😂😂
Wolverine: You really are God’s UnPerfect Idiot, DCEU.
Probably because Ezra Miller is an insufferable arse, whereas Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds come across as likeable.
Bro I really don't think the majority of movie goers cares who or what Ezra Miller has done has to be something else.
@@rowanstuart7150apparently 116 people disagree....so some people think that.
@@rowanstuart7150lol, everyone skipped that movie because of Ezra only. I watched it to see Batman.
@@rowanstuart7150 skipped for this reason
It also doesn’t hurt that both Jackman and Raynolds appear to be really nice, while Miller appears to be a violent jerk. No matter how much they don’t want it to, the actors’ personalities affect the popularity of a film.
I love Flash (thanks largely to Grant Gustin) but there’s no way I’ll ever and I mean ever watch DC’s poor cgi looking criminal having movie
@bibigamer502 bro fr cw flash is better the only bad thing is that it makes my head hurt cause of timeline shit but dcau flash is peak
@@Rodanguyy fair but we can most certainly agree that both Flashes are better then Ezra “couldn’t help be a criminal” Miller
@bibigamer502 yup DC needs to step up their game in terms of movies and I think batman movies are keeping it alive
The opening scene from D&W alone
Is better than the whole flash movie 💀
The opening scene from D&W alone is kinda better than the whole D&W movie
@papaclawa69 Shizo ahh💀🙏
No..... "I'm Batman" was still unbeatable, even by the combined power of D&W.
The whole movie is better than the flash
@Jake-nm3tb even Raimi Spiderman 3 is better than The Flash
"We didn't just go to the cinema to see Deadpool and Wolverine. We went to the movie to see how these two characters would integrate into the Marve Multiverse."
... I just wanted to see my two favourite anti-heroes beat up each other and everyone else getting in their way, R-rated.
That, and adult jokes.
I totally got what I wanted and walked out of the cinema a happy woman but now I feel kinda dumb :'D
No, I think most people who watched D&W thought the same way as you did.
That’s why I love when a character have history because it’s build to moment like this , if the spiderman cross over with Toby Andrew and Tom was like the DCEU the movie would not work but we witness the evolution of each spiderman and it’s had made the movie a lot more intriguing
No need to feel dumb. If you enjoyed the movie, its all that matters 👍
I think its because deadpool is known for 15x better movies. Dceu suks and ppl know that
Since Henry Cavill and Ben Afleck left DC it really sucks.
@@raptoryt1519 indeed
Dc is forever stained because of Zack Snyder… It sucks because he made a masterpiece like Watchmen. Hopefully James Gunns Superman movie will be erasing that stained image we have on DC
It's not only the Problem, it's Flash debut movie and you start at a Multiverse movie?? Pretty much rushing to multiverse trend if you ask me.
Right now Marvel has a really good roster of well known Super Heroes.
DC on other hand is stuck with. Batman and Superman. Both has many more movies and few solo games than any of other DC heroes.
Wolverine has a solo game, Deadpool has a solo game, Xmen has a solo game etc and etc.
DC only has Batman game, but Superman and Suicide Squad game sucks.
@@ttt9830me too, and then we’ll finally see the comics onto the big screen
The Flash could have been one of the best superhero movies if it had followed the same storyline as Justice League: Flashpoint Paradox.
But it is.
Apart from Thomas wayne being the batman in the alternate timeline, it was pretty much the same thing. The world gets destroyed and there's no hope for saving that timeline
I feel like it's too early for them to make a Flashpoint movie. This movie should be his standalone movie .
@@ДимчоДимов-ж7еwhere was Cyborg or Reverse Flash then or do they not count?
The Flash movie would have been even better if it was actually about the title character instead of cameos from legacy DC actors and characters.
Because Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman have more charisma in their big toe than 100 Ezra Millers have
Because Deadpool and Wolverine wasn't selling nostalgia-bait cameos as its main point
Because Deadpool and Wolverine isn't the last of a failed franchise, its a standalone
the nostalgia bait was literally made with CGI anyways, probably to avoid paying the irl actors 😢 😢.... hhhmmm
@@이지민-j5wprobably like 50% of their budget at least was to keep Ezra outta jail
@@이지민-j5w Those cameos they showed in The Flash consisted of mostly dead people you know.
Maybe a LITTLE nostalgia bait? But it was GOOD nostalgia bait. Characters we never thought we would see again, still being great, at their ages!
I'm honestly glad that Christopher Nolan's Batman wasn't in the Flash. DC should not touch the Dark Knight Trilogy.
he was in there as a CGI abomination
Crazy that WB begged Christians Bale to show up as Batman again in The Flash. Thank goodness he said no.
Deadpool and Wolverine is just the unbeatable movie of this year.
Bye bye bye
Dune was a better film lol.
@@MuthukrishnanBellie 2 hours of complete nothing? No thanks Deadpool and Wolverine slaps
@@paulovitorsouzanunes4854Bait used to be believable.
@@MuthukrishnanBellie what do you mean, this aint even an uncommon take, dune is very long, with most of the scenes just being timothy shalomet staring at sand, with a fuckboy face, most of the movie is a big pile of nothing, and the pacing is too slow, it is not a bad movie, but comapared to dvw, it is shit
6:46 what’s even worse is the Erza appeared in Grant Gustin’s Arrowverse but he couldn’t appear in the movie. I was so mad about that.
They didn’t want an actually good Flash to appear in the Reverse Flash movie
@@bibigamer502 I see.
Yeah, Grant Gustin's Flash is better than Erza one
I can’t wait to see Deadpool and Wolverine in Secret Wars.
And Wolverine
I agree, but it makes me wonder, why is Thor crying?
@@stevenallard5284 oh, I forgot to put his name in.
@@DeterminedTorres Deadpool dies before secret wars, but he dies a lot :))))
Wolverine will have huge role I think he gonna be the main guy with spider man dr strange to stop doom
One reason. You are not supposed to treat Deadpool seriously. But they did. And all the nonsense makes the movie perfect. You are supposed to treat The Flash seriously. But they didn't, and all the nonsense makes the movie trash
I agree. Both Wade and Logan's arc, God, I love it. I always have tears when Wolverine says, "For the first time in my life, I'm proud to wear this suit. It means I am an X-man. I am the X-man. The Wolverine."
I literally have tears imagining it and writing it now. Even Hugh had tears.
Deadpool interacting with Wolverine was a passion project for Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman
Flashpoint is a storyline Warner Bros wanted to shit out, as an excuse to reboot their verse
Part of me wish this Wolverine is from the X-men Wolverine Origins timeline which is its actual separate universe. That explains why Wolverine recognizes Deadpool.
And thinks he's so drunk he's hallucinating a dead Wade Wilson he killed all those years before in the nuclear power plant. And a meta joke and redemption on being the worse Wolverine.
They need to make this canon!
What if it's just the worse for everything? Worse Deadpool, worse Wolverine. Heck, all the heroes died because they're all the worse in that universe.
When did this Wolverine recognize him?
did not deadpool already kill that universe deadpool infront of wolverine?
@@Marverynpls call that DP variant in Origins Wolverine as "Weapon XI" to avoid confusion.
Henry Cavill didn't show up in the flash, but he did in Deadpool ❤
Wolverine was already the most famous member of the X-Men before the Fox movies.
Facts and fox took Wolverine to stardom Logan was a master piece only x men to have 3 solo films
@@alkebulanlion6198
He’s the only X-Men that could have a cinematic trilogy.
@@Sjono that is a fact he the most popular even people who don’t know his name call him x men especially in my country.
@@alkebulanlion6198 i used to do that too. My 12 years old brain kicked felt betrayed when I find out his name is wolverine. But I was confused since he always make X with his sharp thingyyy
@@이지민-j5w I know right
A. Everyone loves Ryan and Hugh, and the movie actually made people happy with fun enjoyable moments.
B. Everyone hates Ezra miller, and the DCEU was doomed with no sense of purpose or direction, making the flash a pointless movie.
Nobody wanted to support Ezra Miller. That is why I didn’t go see The Flash.
Well, for starters, Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds don't belong behind bars...
Nor do they fit with their villainous counterpart (if Deadpool has one I’m not sure but nonetheless)
I like how both these movies have one of the cameos which is an actor set to play the character in a never-produced movie yet one of them is really funny and it gave the real actor time to shine in his role (Channing Tatum as Gambit) while another is a Beowulf-like CGI puppet staring in a universe sphere for 5 seconds (Nicolas Cage as Superman)
Deadpool and Wolverine is one of the best superhero movie of all time.
Not even close. It barely has a plot. The entire move is fan service
Let's say D&W us Tied with GOTG
marvel is not paying you to say that
I agree about the social media push, it was very good for Deadpool and Wolverine. I was going to skip it, but the hype on Twitter and Hot Ones episode with Ryan and Hugh got me to watch it lol. I had a blast! One of my favorite Marvel movies in a long time.
I wish I could defend Warner Bros but it's like protecting a bad decision that's unfixable.
DUDE most of the DC movies are flops because somehow they manage to cast the worst people alive.
Separate art from artists , if someone loves Ezra , it's because of his acting and not his morals , also the fact that he never made a promise that he would not harass PPL , we assumed that
His career isn't there due to him being a good person so it shouldn't be destroyed because of him being a bad person
@@Yui-ys5cv Mate. If you are not keeping yourself out of trouble and have no morals for the people who invest in you, you are just a disgrace to yourself and to the people people who rely on or depend on you. It's not only for business it applies to every part of human life. Stop supporting the wrong people.
@@nafi.j who said I support him in doing all this , it's wrong but I didn't start dceu because of Ezra and won't miss a dceu movie because of him either
@@Yui-ys5cvseperating art from artist is ok but the problem always lies in public image
Nobody will want to see yoyr art if they know youve done some horendeous shid
I’ve had time to digest D&W; the plot isn’t much to write about but everything else was done so well, especially the characters, that it doesn’t even matter.
Deadpool’s depiction in X-Men Origins: Wolverine discouraged fans of that character just as much as She-Hulk’s depiction in her show discouraged fans of that character
The difference is wolverine, you don’t have to sell hugh jackman as wolverine.
- That’s because no one wana watch a movie with a doomed cinematic universe .
ezra was the worst casting job and cant even run right.
The simplest answer: Nobody wanted "We Need To Talk About Kevin 2: Into the Bat-verse Flashpoint Paradox."
The best part I love about D&W is the creative division goes unchained so wildly... It's like the studio said "here the money, go make a Deadpool movie as you want, just don't ruin other movies arc on the multiverse" that's why the gore is top notch and the cameo is unpredictable...
It was EZRA, Barry. He ruined your movie by committing a spree of crimes and tarnishing YOUR name.
One sentence that shows the meaning of flash: "Baby in a burning microwave just to save him."
i know what the absolute fork was that 😢 😢
just look at who plays flash.
and look at who plays wolverine and deadpool. very big difference
actually no, flash didn't save his loved ones, he made nothing better and the prime DCEU lost their flash to another timeline because of it
Let’s be real movies like Deadpool and wolverine should be the standard for marvel
Hard to see an endgame repeat since the movies leading to secret wars don't exist.
thats why theyre making them no?
Flash sucks because it had bad cgi a controversial actor and disrespected Christopher reeves
This.
Reeve, not Reeves.
Why Deadpool and Wolverine is a HIT and The Flash BOMBED = Henry Cavill 😂nuff said.....
The problem with the flash is the actor who played the flash was a bad guy and a pervert. And the CGI was shitty. But also blame Warner bros and James Gunn for ruining that movie. And plus there were a lot of missed opportunities for example they should’ve had both versions of Batman played by Michael Keaton and Ben affleck in one scene where they both team up with the flash. That alone would have been enough to make the movie better.
Ezra Miller is the real life Reverse Flash.
but then they will have to actually pay these actors. Every single batman actors (from the good to the sheet.. George Clooney) have end up being top forever A-lister, the pay for those cameos would have been crazyyyyy. The same can be said for DP V W, but that's Ryan and Hugh's passion project, and these cameos are done with their friends, the movie is promising and MCU at least don't have a consistent history of just making sheet life actions, I guess that makes the actors not as hostile to the idea of cameo...
We got comic accurate wolverine in the show
You know a movie is bad when Ryan Reynold's Green Lantern beat Ezra Miller's The Flash.
That and the cgi in Green Lantern wasn’t nearly as bad as Flash simply running
George clooney showing up made me laugh so hard, probably the only scene that made me laugh
Yep. That ending scene was James Gunn's way of saying that Ezra Miller's Flash is trapped in the timeline of DC flops & will never be able to return to the primary DC universe. The superheroes in his new timeline are: Nicolas Cage's Superman, George Clooney's Batman, Chris O'Donnel's Robin, Alicia Silverstone's Batgirl, Adrianne Palicki's Wonder Woman, Ryan Reynold's Green Lantern, Halle Berry's Catwoman, Shaq's Steel, The CW's Birds of Prey, The CW's Naomi, the 70s Shazam & Isis, the 80s Justice League from the 2 live-action Legends of the Superfriends TV movies, the 90s Swamp Thing & Human Target, and probably a few more that I've forgotten along the way.
deadpool is entertainment
I believe the true downfall of the DCEU was in 2 parts:
-Warner Bros: Not being able to manage a paper hat, let alone a connected universe.
Proof being their constant interference and course corrections.
-The second are fans/general audience with the addition of the MCU.
I've seen many people, both UA-camrs and in comments (some who still think the same and others who regret their previous thoughts with their retropective reviews) who didn't like the DCEU BECAUSE it wasn't like the MCU. Questions like, why can't DC make light hearted fun quippy films like Marvel, or Marvel has a formula so DC SHOULD do what Marvel is doing.
(Which would lead to WB's further interference)
Then there were regular DC fans who didn't like Superman not being optimistic or Batman killing, using Christian Bale's Batman as the golden example of the "no kill rule."
(Ignoring the fact that, at the time, every live action Batman, including Christian Bale's, all killed... Like, a lot. And a heck of a lot more than Afflecks)
It's a shame because there's a quote from Zack Snyder that I really liked, which is:
Superman isn't the Superman we know YET and Batman isn't the Batman we know ANYMORE.
And at least for Batman this 100% makes sense.
In the comics after Jason Todd died, Batman did get far more brutal and was slipping into the darkness and only Tim Drake becoming the new Robin was able to bring Bruce back to the light.
The DCEU Batman, didn't have any future Robins, so he just kept falling further and further into darkness.
It was only his failure with Superman and his interactions with the League that brought this version of Bruce back to the light.
And I 100% believe they become the characters we know at the end of Zack Snyder's Justice League.
Henry Cavill, thru no fault of his own, wasn't playing Superman, he was just some guy from Krypton. Superman's defining characteristic is his moral code, it's what makes him interesting, resisting the urge to just go all out. He knows he is stronger/faster/tougher, the challenge for him is not to go overboard with that. Take all that away and you get, well, Zod.
Wolverine and Deadpool both had multiple movies setting them up as great characters that warranted a crossover, The Flash just had two versions of the SAME movie where he wasn't the main character. Not even a SINGLE solo movie there's already a crossover.
That's just one reason.
The biggest reason: For the first solo movie of the Flash, they shoved too much in the audience's gave. Unlike with Deadpool, his first was just trying to find a guy for revenge.
They should have used the flash from CW.
Because D&W has bye bye bye
The Flash doesn't have a song as good as that
Alright by supergrass when young barry first used his powes was good, and salute your situation by the racontuers when the fight the kyrtpons in the speed was fun
Had they just remade the animated flashpoint it would’ve been a hit for sure. Jeffrey dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne. Bringing back aquaman and Wonder Woman and have them fighting. That would’ve been great.
Two anime. Wolverine was in two anime. The one he was even the main character.
Forgetting several Major points - The Rock tried for a power play that killed not only his movie but also destroyed the follow-up to the very success Shazam! Add trying to make Blue Beetle a thing, Cavill out, & the announcement of killing the DCEU right before the Flash movie (“They’re rebooting everything so what’s the point?”) all doomed it before it even hit the screen.
0:24 yeah cameos from past movies only thing is one of the actors died long ago and had an actor to continue the story why didn't include brandon routh is the question instead of cgi christopher reeve
Yeah bro i was also thinking about that they are very much similar, like flash and Deadpool are the guys whose timeline is in trouble so they go to a superhero ( Batman and Wolverine) because he is their only hope. But that superhero doesn't want to help them because they have a conflict within themselves but then the he resolves his conflict and tries to help them. Then eventually he puts his iconic suit and the other guy ( flash and deadpool) praises him.
I'm happy that The Dark Knight didn't get a cameo in The Flash.. I hope it will never happen, people are way too obsessed with fan service nowadays
Why? Ezra
Separate art from artists , if someone loves Ezra , it's because of his acting and not his morals , also the fact that he never made a promise that he would not harass PPL , we assumed that
His career isn't there due to him being a good person so it shouldn't be destroyed because of him being a bad person
Why it's better? Because it's full of cameo from talented actors with nostalgia character and their cgi are great. On the other hand the Flash movie suck because it had Fcking two worst actor Ezra Miller and Gal Gadot in it. Let's not forget about the bad cgi that ruins the moment in the movie.
0:36 ahhh I see what you did there. Reception and Pam is the receptionist. Genius
I have no optimism at all for secret wars, I dont believe they can make a cohesive story about krulls, they are too heavy handed now.
Also peacemaker was so good its limited viewership was a crime, its literally one of the best superhero shows ever
Ezra is a sociopath and Ryan Reynolds is a cinnamon roll
A thing that adds salt to CW Flashs actor, DCUs Flash made a cameo in the CW as his Flash
Flash failed bec warner is making tv series out of their big league dc superheroes. Green arrow, superman, flash, supergirl. Etc.The audience were not surprised anymore and expect less since they already got used to the flash in tv series. Unlike Mcu everything are surprises.
hey man thanks for being so clear on news here, I appreciate it
because wolverine is the actor himself, flash looks like guy in a cosplay ..
I wish Warner Bros never Hired James Gunn and The DCEU would have Continued
Ezra Miller was the millstone around that movie's neck. Had they used Grant Gustin's Flash and the ensemble around him, it _might_ have worked. It sure as shit couldn't have been any worse, anyway.
marvel good movies ended after endgame but deadpool and wolverine bought it back hopefully it stays like that
dc had so much potential to match mcu success but fumbled the bag so hard but we got some bangers like batman and joker
My problem with the flash movie was they completely messed up the flashpoint story the original flashpoint story had nothing to do with the multiverse and it's pointless without the reverse flash
Also because D&W is an honest movie and not a wasted potential like The Flash.
Why Deadpool and Wolverine is a HIT and The Flash BOMBED?
Because one of them was a really great movie and the other one was a terrible, starred a criminal and had bad CGI.
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Ezra Miller is the Reverse Flash in real life.
The Flash is a great movie!
Plus even if the story of Deadpool 3 was weaker than the previous movies, Marvel knew they needed to promote this movie as much as possible. What does the Flash have? Umm boring Cgi supermen and no creative popcorn buckets
Because Esra Miller is a creep
Holy s*** we know that the Deadpool and Wolverine movie is good you don't need to prove it with completely different movies fuck!
Deadpool & Wolverine didn’t have Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds causing chaos in Hawaii and kidnapping people, the cameos were actually played by real actors, Henry Cavill was actually in it, the CGI was leaps and bounds better than The Flash, and the writing was a lot better than The Flash
Because flashes head is big, bro thinks he's megamind
I thought it was fitting that Miller’s Flash wound up in Clooney’s Batman, because that assures we’ll never see him as Flash ever again. The two worst versions of both characters, together in oblivion.
Everyone loves the flash. No one like Ezra Miller
It’s been said that during filming of the first X-men movie in 2000, Bryan Singer did not want any of the actors to read up on their characters. Kevin Feige on the other hand would sneak Hugh Jackman Wolverine comics and thank god he did! Poor guy carried that moive franchise all by himself for the first ten years!
I enjoyed the Flash. I didn’t care about Ezra’s flash. I wanted Michael Keaton’s Batman. I got Michael Keaton’s Batman. I’m satisfied. D&W was definitely better though
Edit: also the ending of The Flash is more than a bad joke, it’s karma. Ezra Mugshot’s Flash still didn’t learn his lesson by the end of the film, and continued to screw up the timeline; therefore, his punishment is to be sent to the worst timeline conceivable…the Clooneyverse.
Surprisingly I watched both of them in theaters😂😂
Just saying. I watched The Flash on the flight to Japan last November. I felt the will to walk out during the movie.
😅😂😂🤣🤣🤣! ! !
Deadpool and Wolverine was first good MCU Movie after Avengers Endgame
What about Guardians 3?
Dude DP 3 doesnt come close to NWH or GotG 3. It was still fun tho
As someone who enjoyed both films, I would say that Deadpool and Wolverine did their multiverse concept with legacy cameos much better than Flash did.
Deadpool and Wolverine not only brought back the old Electra, Blade, Johnny Storm, and the unmade Gambit, but they also brought back the original actors playing them, and made them integral to the plot. The only thing that would have made it better, is that they brought back Nicolas Cage's Ghost Rider.
The Flash brought back different beloved variations of Batman and Superman, but only one was actually played by the original actor (Michael Keaton) that was actually integral to the plot, while the others were just CGI cameos that contribute nothing but being a cameo.
I like both films, but Deadpool and Wolverine was objectively better.
Seems simple. Marvel connects all the dots. DC just scratches and starts over.
Although they might be similar on the surface level. The flash has a lot of problems regarding the main actor, the CGI, the use of cameos and the controversies of the studio at that time.
The most important difference, the Flash gave up, accepted that there was nothing he could do to to save that universe. Deadpool and Wolverine didn't give up. The Flash accepting the futility of the situation would be fine if it was a science fiction movie, but it's a betrayal of everything that superheroes stand for.
You do know that the movie is based on the Flashpoint storyline where Barry had to accept that his mother had to die. It be like saying the animated movie is terrible because Barry did the same exact thing.
I love Christopher Reeve's 1st Superman movie but ending was a copout. I wasn't much of a fan of The Flash movie but I thought the ending was fine where he had to make the sacrifice. Sometimes, superheroes can't save everyone. Dr.Strange tried in that one episode of What If and his actions ended up destroying the universe.
Wolverine is always a huge draw and with the DCMU coming to a close and so many controversies surrounding it, it obviously who the winner would have been.
one more reason bad cgi for superman, WB never went to ask the other superman actor for the part!
Little known dc fact.
There is a previous Flash tv serires which features a certain Trickster played by Mark Hamil.(It also features an early appearance by Jerry Ryan)
Its obviously hokey with 1970s special effects but it makes a really good collection.
Oh my god, I never realized!!
the flash movie imo was kinda decent if we dont mention its cgi
but deadpool and wolverine is just on a whole new level
"Lets fuc*ing Go!"
Victor Von Doom scared of bad words? 🤣
Oh yea your right
The cgi and the story were very different between these 2
Haha red man make joke of claw man gi barrrrrrr
Perfect casting, spot on charecter representation, ligitimite love/respect for charecters, incredible fan service moments are just a few reasons it was an infinitly superior movie. D&W was the funnest movie experience in years, flash was borderline unwatchable.