2024 Audi RS3 vs BMW M340 | What's The Better $65,000 Sport Sedan?
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- 👋 After buying the new 2024 Audi RS3, and filming a ton of the BMW M340i sport sedans over the years. We have seen plenty of comments of other buyers cross shopping these two cars! Both the 2024 Audi RS3 and 2024 BMW M340i can be bought for about $65,000. Son in todays video I compare the M340i to the RS3! Overall both cars have an inline turbocharged engine, all wheel drive and are good sized sedans. The BMW has RWD available along with xDrive. The RS3 only comes with Quattro AWD. The RS3 packs a 5 cylinder engine with 401 horsepower and 369 torque, while the M340i has a 6 cylinder engine with 382 horsepower and 369 torque. the RS3 is a faster car with a tested 0-60 time of 3.3 seconds while the xDrive M340i is a half second slower at 3.7 seconds. The M340i is a slightly larger car with about an inch or two more legroom and head room. However I do fit in the back seat of the RS3 behind my driver seat set for me. The RS3 is more of an exciting car with the dual clutch transmission. It handles sharper and feels more mechanical and raw. RS3 reminds me a lot of my old R35 Nissan GTR and honestly feels like a BMW M3 but in a smaller more affordable package. The BMW M340i felt a lot softer. More of a luxury sedan that also has a powerful engine, while the RS3 feels like a performance sedan that also has luxury aspect. So these cars are not direct competitors even tho they cost the same and can do the same 4 door sedan things. RS3 is a full on performance car with excitement at its top priority. M340i can feel like a basic 3 series when driving normal. The RS3 never tones down that much. It still has aggressive brakes and a more mechanical transmission. Power deliver is more aggressive to on the RS3. BMW M34i is very smooth around town and offers an easy to drive experience while the RS3 feels a bit more on edge in slow speeds. SO I think if you want a super excited sports car that also has back seats, the RS3 is the winner! I'd love a BMW M3, but at $90,000, thats just out of budget. And coming from the R35 GTR, the RS3 gives me the perfect blend of excitement and practicality form the GTR and M3 all in a more affordable fun to drive sedan. The BMW M340i is for the buyer who just wants a nice roomy mid sized sedan, but a 4 cylinder wont cut it! If you want all of that with a good powerful engine and fun handling, the M340i might suite you better.
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2024 Audi RS3 vs BMW M340 | What's The Better $65,000 Sport Sedan?
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Very tough choice! I couldn't decide. But after much deliberation, I decided to keep my 2015 Corolla. Cuz I'm broke.
lol good and reliable! But keep working towards big goals! Live below your means and budget well and a car like this will come up over time!
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We all start somewhere
Great video! the back to back format really highlights the pros and cons of each vehicle. Looking forward to your next comparison 👍
Glad you liked it! Also made this video with the M3 vs RS3. More coming!
I just bought a 2024 m340i xdrive special edition absolutely in love with the car
Sweet! Fun car!
Have a 2023 m340i myself. What is in the special edition that sets it apart from the standard m340?
Great review I have an m340i and think both cars are great just preference plays part
Yeah they each have a lot to offer. Just depends if you want more comfort or more drama
I’ve recently come across the RS3 and man.. I really like it. Your vids are awesome and have really helped me want one even more now lol. Thanks for the content 👍🙏🙌💪
Glad to hear it! Plenty more videos coming with it! Definitely a pretty sweet car!
dont you think the RS3 front end is ugly?
I’m going to go look at the rs3 soon im excited
It's a fun car! We have enjoyed it!
Did you drive the m340i in sport plus? Really wakes the car up compared to even regular sport mode. The sweet spot due to depreciation is a used m340i. I have a 2020. It’s the best daily driver for my family of four due to the big back seat, x drive, multiple personalities, and cost. This coming from previous m2, e92 m3, macan gts, and a4. This one is my favorite. Can’t go wrong with the rs3 either but it is more compromised as a daily driver imo.
Yes as shown in the first part of the test drive. Sport + isn't anything compared to RS Performance mode tho. RS3 is s big step up in performance and just feels way more lively. I've driven a ton of the M340i cars. Great cars overall, but the RS3 has the true hard core performance feeling like the M3 offers. But in a more affordable package.
A good used M340 is a great deal for sure! RS3 is a fine daily it's just a bit more rough around the edges in the slow speeds with the more performance focused brakes and transmission. It's more like daily driving the M3. M340 is a good well rounded option for sure!
After owning the R35 GTR we love how the RS3 offers that kind of feel but with more practical seats. And since I can still fit in the back seats, that's all we needed. Fun cars for sure! Just different uses.
@@BrosFOURRSpeedHm, I drove the M340i and RS3, and the M340i actually felt better on overall performance, especially off the line, it was more responsive and refined. The RS3 is an upscale Golf.
They both look like nice cars honestly. It really comes down to what you said. Are you looking for a luxury sedan with some sportiness or a bit smaller sedan with still luxury but much more performance focused. I actually think these two cars compare really well against each other even though they aren't supposed to. Comes down to which is preferred on your list: performance over size, or size over performance. I'm looking between these two right now and I'm leaning more rs3. I value performance over a bit more size and roomy inside. Just watching you drive them back to back brought a smile seeing and HEARING the rs3 compared to the m340i. I think I'm taking the rs3 😎
Very true! We get a lot of people commenting who are cross shopping these two. Definitely depends on how much performance do you want, and how much space do you need. RS3 definitely works for us at the moment!
Interesting comparison!
Similarly interesting question - how would you compare Golf R and m240i in terms which is more fun to drive around city and on twisty roads?
Thanks!!
Both are cool cars for sure! I'd say the M240 is a step up. That 6 cylinder gives it much better power and a smoother delivery than the 4 cylinder. Gold R is super toss bale those and very nice to see out of. So could be the better city car. M240 is probably more fun in the mountains with its lower center of gravity and more planted for high speed turns. Very different cars for sure. I'd go M240i because of the B58 engine and coupe design
@@BrosFOURRSpeed thank you for responding!
Great feedback. Surprisingly the monthly repayments for both cars here in AU end up being materially similar If you can negotiate the price on the m240i.
It is just me and my partner so no kids for now and coupe should suit our lifestyle so I’m not worried over that. However I keep thinking if Golf R would be simply a more fun car to drive in tight city corners under allowed speed limits. While the m240i could only be fun if you go high speeds which we really don’t have here in AU and I imagine it will feel less playful in corners compared to the Golf.
At the same time it feels silly to get Golf over BMW given everything else is better in well specced 2 series … Would you say m240i with adaptive suspension would be a more comfortable ride? Also I reckon golf R will hold the value better over years compared to quickly depreciating m240i unfortunately.
Thank you for your help!!
M240 will feel like a more premium car overall. It's definitely a nicer car. Drive both to makes sure! Good options for sure
How do they compare to the CTV4 Blackwing? Thx.
V BW would be pretty close to the RS3. Would be cool to compare them side to side. We had one for a week and it was fun! Not a fan of the 10 speed tho. And not as good of interior materials compared to the Audi. Certainly a strong contender
I have space for only 1 more car in my garage and it needs to do everything - pick kids up from daycare, grocery runs, long commutes into the city, but it also needs to be a fun weekend backroad car. Would you say the M340i provides enough performance and engagement, or would you say the M3 provides enough comfort?
The problem is finding an rs3 WITHOUT markups is exceptionally difficult. The M340i is way easier
Yeah you can find a new M340i all day at the dealerships. To get an RS3 with no markup, you need to order it and wait 18 months like what we did. But the RS3 will be worth a lot more on the used market
@BrosFOURRSpeed RS3 holding its value much better, and being more unique are the biggest reasons I wouldn't buy another M lite down the road! Great cars but depreciate really badly as I just found out recently!
@@speeddemon311 Yeah good point. Very common car and probably takes a nice depreciation. The M3 holds value very well. As does the RS3. The top trims seem to hold best over time
@@BrosFOURRSpeed a dealer told me pay markup and wait a year to get one lol. Not worth it.
I have one being shipped to me, MD to TN. I honestly didnt have any issues finding one at MSRP. I was looking for green on green black optics so maybe they are a bit harder to sell
Love your videos, they give me a second-hand experience with these amazing performance cars.
Glad you enjoyed it! Fun time checking these two out together!
Both are purty nice 🤠
For sure!
That b58 straight six is an awesome engine from what I hear and just that alone along with my bias towards bmw design I’d pick the bmw if I could afford either one.
Yeah my Supra has the same engine. Solid motor for sure! The inline 5 tho is pretty cool tho!
Nice review and I would think it’s probably difficult to seem impartial reviewing a vehicle along with your own that you would be most used to. I’d tend to lean towards the BMW but I’m at a place where I’d go for a performance sedan with a bit more refinement. Although I will agree with you regarding placing an M3 at the top of that list.😅
Yeah the M340 is a great option. A bit easier to drive and more practical. But it lacks the extra excitement the RS3 has. So nice to see how these cars differ. M3 is certainly the big boy!
Definitely a great comparison, but i will say i believe its direct competitor is the CLA 45 AMG!
Yeah that'd be a fun one to compare! Thats probably the closest competition. I drove one maybe in 2020. Would be cool to film another one
How would you compare a Porsche macan s to these 2?
Definitely completely different. The Audi SQ5 and BMW X3 M40i would be the competition for the Macan S
I think the M2 is a better comparison except for the 4 doors. Ok question, I had a Golf R and no matter what I did, I could never get it to feel RWD (of course not) or ever AWD. Well, unless it was wet and I was being stupid. How is the RS3 different?
For me, being pushed is way better than being pulled.
Yeah the M2 is much more on par with the RS3 on a performance level. But we've had a lot of comments of people cross shopping these two for similar price point sedans. If I have access to another M2 I'll definitely do a comparison.
The Golf R will always feel like a FWD vehicle. Cars like that, even with AWD never feel like anything else. STI and Focus RS always felt FWD to me as well. RS3 feels AWD all day long and has a rear biased mode as well for more tail happy driving. Being a big next step up car, it gives you that better feeling
The new mk8 R and 8Y RS3 has a new rear diff that changed the handling and trackability of the platform. The RS3 even revised the suspension geometry and made the tires wider to handle better. RS3 also adopted the R's adaptive damper and dropped the mag ride.
This video literally just confirmed my choice of buying the RS3. Thank you so much for an in depth analysis. I agree with everything you said after test driving both cars. RS3 was just better hands down. BMW fanboys get a M3 if you want to be better than the RS3
Glad to help! M340 is a better 'normal' car. Great for comfortable deriving and more space. But the RS3 has that extra excitement level and is just a rocket to drive! Such a blast! And yeah the M3 is the real BMW sedan to get. I'd love one, but it's a lot more money then the RS3
As you were first comparing them, I thought maybe you should have compared the M3 to the RS3 until you said the prices... Lol. RS3 sounds like the one to go with!
Yeah I'd love to compare it directly to the M3 to see how well it stacks up in fun factor for the lower price. It's definitely the affordable M3 lol
The m3 compares to the rs5 from Audi
Fuel ⛽️ consumption? Which one is better? Just curious
Both cars can get over 30 very easy. So you won't really notice a difference
While the cars are pretty similar on paper in many ways and they will be cross shopped, they are fundamentally different cars from the ground up.
Makes sense since they are in a different class.
The B9.5 S4 would be closer to the M340i as a whole given that the S4 directly competes with the M340i.
The 8Y S3 directly competes with the Bmw M235i gran coupe and Bmw doesn’t have anything higher in that class so the RS3 is left to compete with the CLA45 Amg.
The 2 series coupe might be in that class in terms of size, but it’s still quite different and is more of a smaller 4 series.
Whereas the A3 lineup isn’t just a smaller A4. The engine is mounted differently and you get a different result as a whole
I can't get over BMW moving the climate controls into the iDrive and getting rid of physical buttons. I bet you they will get rid of the turn signal stalk and wiper controls next.
It’s really not that bad since they are always visible.
Chevy has headlights in the screen that you have to search for and it’s way worse!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed True. My father has a new M240i and I have a F87 M2C and just can't get used to the new iDrive systems. I'm used to physical buttons. I find the infotainment climate controls too distracting as you have to take your eyes off the road more often. Not good. Audi still uses physical buttons for climate controls on the RS3 so that's good. I do know some of their other models like the RS6 doesn't have it.
Both sweet cars!
They are!
Well since i recently got my 2024 GLI, I'll probably go with the RS3. However the M340i seems to be the better daily? More space and cargo room, and maybe better for winter. Also great for road trips.
We have a vid coming late today comparing the S3 to the GLI!
M340i is a bit easier to drive around town with the smoother transmission and brakes. About 1-2in more room in the back seats and bigger trunk. But the RS3 still fit me in the back. RS3 is just as refined for highways driving. So once you get up to speed they both feel super refined. If you want the extra fun factor, go RS3. If you genuinely need the slightly larger car, go M340i. Both would be fine in winter with all season tires.
lol. I got a 2023 GLI back in June. The tires are the worst part about the car tbh other than that it’s perfect for daily duty. I average around 38-40mpg on my 40mile one way commute. Also been looking at the s3/rs3/m340i as the next logical upgrade to this car.
@@Carlitos2cool4u Oh nice! All good options for the future!
Do a video with the m340 and S4. Seem more similar style
Yeah that'd be fun! Seen so many comments of people cross shopping these tho.
BMW power is rated to the wheels, makes more than 382 at the crank. You should have noted that in the video, it makes the m340 sound light on power
Yeah these make like 400 to the wheels. I have a Supra, so I know the underrating. But the RS3 is still a much quicker car, and I'm just comparing what the manufacturer claims the cars make
@@BrosFOURRSpeedHow is the RS3 a much faster car? It does 11.8-12.1 on the quarter mile, and people have gotten the same times on the M340i's. The M340i also has a much better 0-60 off idle without the DCT lag.
I have a 2022 m340i rwd and love it....👌
Oh nice!
I decided to go with the BMW, It was more enjoyable to drive.
Oh cool. Smoother to drive in slow speeds
Sure buddy “more enjoyable” my ass lol
@@carlotlife5013well enjoyable in itself is subjective and the m340 is a larger sedan as well
@@carlotlife5013notice how he isn't even trying to compare it to a full M3 car 😂 wouldn't even be close on which wins in every category. Even in this the rs3 looks like a fat egg wagon while the m340i looks sleek and aggresive. Plus BMW interior this gen is way nicer..
@@carlotlife5013He says more enjoyable even know I'm sure he never got behind the wheel of the new RS3!
I went m340i. Love it. What do you think of the M2?
Love the M2! Here's a video I made comparing it to the Supra and Z. I can see getting one after my Supra. ua-cam.com/video/GXH3cEgjfhs/v-deo.html
@@BrosFOURRSpeed does it feel like driving a sports car like the rs3?
@@richlili Yeah M2 is very similar to the RS3. I’d say a bit faster and more direct feeling. The RWD makes it a bit more raw
Shouldn’t just be compared to the Audi S4?
Yeah the S4 is a great competitor to the M340i. But like I said in the video, I get a ton of comments of people cross shopping these two vehicles. Once we bought the RS3 we started getting a lot of comments from potential buyers curious how it stacked up against the M340i specifically.
Just picked up my 2024 RS3 after a 10 month wait. Paid sticker with no markup. Loved the M2 if I lived on the track it would have been my choice but for a daily driver and the occasional need to transport more than one passenger. The RS3 wins for checking all the boxes including daily usability for me. In comfort it gets 35 to the gallon on the highway, in RS mode it runs like a banshee, and handles like on rails. All around winner. The M3 wins, but 20k more sooooo not really the same class.
Nice! Definitely a great car! I'd like an M2 at some point to replace my Supra. Would be a cool car alongside the RS3. I have a video coming comparing the M3 Comp to the RS3. Definitely the next step up in every way. But you pay for it! RS3 offers a lot for the money
Good comment. I’m waiting on my RS3. About 10 months. I haven’t even configured it yet. Just have a bit of money down so I can get in the queue.
@@mattmckay5054 Nice! Fun car to pick up for sure!
@BrosFOURRSpeed I feel you'll be sacrificing a much better car overall in the Supra and more of a collectible as well if you trade it for the M2! Much lighter and better driving dynamics for sure imo! Not to mention, looks of the Supra is a lot better lol!
You cannot compare the rs3 seats to the base M340i seats. Should compare it to the Vernasca leather on the BMW. Also if there wasn’t a 300lbs difference, it would be a ton closer in feel. As for performance, we know the B58 can hold power better than daza, so it’ll be cheaper to mod.
This is the spec I had to film I don't think I've even had a 340 to film that had real leather. But the RS3 still has better seats. Larger bolsters and a more sporty aspect. The I5 can make crazy power too. Just not as common of an engine. But very different handling and excitement levels.
The grill in the Audi looks amazing!!
It's big lol. But looks aggressive
You can also mod your M340i and make it a lot more fun...plus you're also getitng more size/space and usability.
Hows the turbo lag on the rs3 compared to lets say a base gti?
Completely different. The GTI being a 4 cylinder eels like any 4 cylinder. So much more power in the RS3, if you're in the right gear you don't really get any lag. They are probably about equal in lag. Just more power through the revs in the RS3
@@BrosFOURRSpeed nothing a 4" turbo inlet, air intake and catted dp won't cure :-p
@@hg1496 Same mods on the 5 cylinder will still give it the edge tho.
RS3’s absolutely have turbo lag
@@dash-kt7uf As I drive the new one harder I’ll see what I think. But keeping the revs above 3k I don’t seem to notice much. I’m used to my R35 GTR. That has some turbo lag. So driving a car where 5 cylinders go to one turbo it’s much less lag then I’m used too
I went with the 8Y rs3. Both great cars but the rs3 won’t depreciate much and is a little quicker with a better sounding motor. They did a great job with the 8Ys and very impressed with the handling compared to the 8v
Yeah I can see that. As of now the new RS3 on the used market goes for $10k over MSRP. However it’s a good 18 month wait to buy one. But it’s definitely the more exciting car
I actually go very lucky I ordered mine in August and just picked it up 2 weeks ago with no mark up as well. It came much earlier than expected and I couldnt pass on it even tho I was planning for spring/summer bc like you said the used market is crazy for them
@@ronnielongo7193 Oh cool! We ordered ours when we bought the S3. So almost 2 years ago. We weren’t in a rush for it. But seems the best way to get one at sticker is to just order and wait.
M340i just looks so much more sleek and aggresive. I like what BMW did with their front end and headlights. Audi makes their cars so fat and wagon shaped. Its insane u said theres way more room in the BMW. I guess u cant get the carbon fiber bucket seats or M seats in a m340i unless u just didnt get them. Not sure if audi has full self driving like assisted drivers+ and auto park for parallel and normals parking spots but if not BMW is ahead tech wise aswell. Overall just a better looking sports car thats also a 4 door. M3 wouldnt even be a debate on which is better for this generation they win in every aspect even compared to a rs6. Not trying to sound like a fan boy I just think BMW absolutely killed merc and audi for this generation.
@@user-my4xu4gf1z at the end of the day it all an opinion my friend. The RS3 is a way more special car over an m340i lol and the rs3 won’t lose much value. I could buy any bmw or Mercedes I want and I still picked Audi even tho I grew up around Mercedes and bmws.
great video. its a shame the M3 is penalized with that godawful front grille. Wish it had the M340's front. Would you recommend the S3 if someone still wanted an Audi but a daily driver instead of getting a bmw? ( granted, the S3 is significantly cheaper than an M340i but you get my point.
As much as I love the rs3, the m340 might be the best bang for the buck. If you're a tuner guy, that b58 is all the rage right now. Nothing against the daza motor, but it's easier extracting power from that b58, it seems. Again, that's if you're a tuner guy. The m340 seems to have all the boxes checked for size and all around daily livability.
Who says, you.?? 😂😂😂
@davothegreat9990 the info is out there comparing both vehicles. I made a statement based on what I've read. That's why I said, "It seems" that the b58 might be easier to extract power. If you know otherwise, please state. It makes for good convo
I think the I5 can make more power tho. I drove an RS3 with a big turbo and it make 800 WHP. I own a Supra and B58 is a great motor, but seems like 700 WHP is about what they make with big turbos. A bit easier to find B58 tuners since it's a much more common engine. But both make plenty of power. RS3 still handles better then the M340i. So really depends on what you want to use the car for. M340 is easy to drive in slow speeds and has more practicality to it. Just depends
@@BrosFOURRSpeedthe rs3 has better handling than the m340i? That seems highly unlikely given the MQB fwd architecture. Audi has JUST figured out how to make that platform not understeer when pushed where as bmw has basically perfected chassis dynamics with a rwd/rear biased awd car at this point. The rs3 is lighter and that’s pretty much it. 3 series is a better balanced chassis and b58 is better than the daza.
@@jbrandon302 I like the steering in the BMW better since it’s heavier. However the RS3 is more noble in the turns and has faster lap times. It’s a bit weird how it handles giving the FWD aspects. But it does overall make turns faster. And it accelerates faster too
RS3 can be tuned to a hell of a beast. Very solid platform. 100 extra HP on a RS3 can easily be made.
Oh I bet! I drove an 800 HP RS3 once and it was wild! Felt just like my old GTR on E85
Those are the "base" synthetic seats in the M340. The car needs to come with the interior leather option in order to have the better seats.
Yeah true. However the seat itself doesn't change. Still the same bolsters I believe
Freeload a few fleet of those to me 🎉
lol just keep working towards it and you can buy one! Fun cars to work towards
I just realized the m340i xdrive and M2 are only a couple grand in price
Yeah both pretty similar. I built an M2 for about $67k with a manual. Definitely a car to buy!
Felt the opposite regarding the trans between both cars, the DSG feels so smooth, the m340 has this huge engine breaking and aggressive gear engagement in traffic or city driving. Very jerky. Power feels 0 or 100 while the DSG is more linear
Interesting. I'd say just the slow speed driving the RS3 is a bit more clunky and less smooth. When at speeds the RS3 is very smooth and shifts are super quick. The RS3 engine might be more linear in power so that might be more of what your feeling
@@BrosFOURRSpeed maybe, granted I only drove them both in Sport mode, which is where the 3 felt uncomfortable to me. In comfort it seemed fine for that brief period of time. I just didn’t experience it in the rs3 at all. Low speeds it felt like a GTI lol
Interesting lol
Totally different cars, the 340 is a luxury profiler, the RS3 is basically a 400 hp hot hatch
Yeah like I said in the video these aren't direct competitors. But also like I said in the video, I get a ton of comments of people cross shopping these two cars. I still constantly get messages about people looking at specifically the M340 vs RS3.
340i suspension just does not have enough to handle the weight on track. im a 340i owner, and my car is basically driving on the side wall of the front tire.
Yeah it makes it great for a daily. But you can tell it's much softer overall then the RS3
BMW for me anyway.
Great option!
RS3 is definitely going to be a more fun car to own, but for daily livability, the M340i is a difficult package to beat. Everything about it is very buttoned down, yet comfortable, not to mention the extra space. It's a jack-of-all-trades car.
Now, if you want a really interesting comparison... M2. 450HP S58, but still the same price as the RS3.
Yeah it's very well rounded for sure! Good all around car. But if you want the M3, but at this price range, the RS3 gives you that level of excitement. A few sacrifices for daily use, but good blend of a car for sure with that fun factor
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I wonder if you could talk the BMW dealership to letting you take an M2 for a spint. Now THAT would be an interesting comparison.
@@madpistol We have some M2 content on our channel! Had one as a press car for a week. But I am planning to film their white M2 and compare it to the RS3 next week. Hopefully it's still there!
Yea but the deal breaker with the M2 is only having 2 doors for people who want 4. Now if the M2 had a grand coup version with 4 doors, I'd take that over the RS3. But right now only the normal m240i has 4 doors and that's slower and less exciting than the RS3.
@@tdogg8291 Yeah that’s be interesting. M3 for me is the best way to go. Just gotta want to spend $90k. M235i is on par with the S3. So this is a very unique segment for sure
I’ve driven an m340i xdrive and I have to say it’s my favorite daily driver sports car. It has so much torque and it’s just so smooth.
In general I’ve noticed that bmw has better reliability compared to Audi.
I’d go with the bmw
We'll have to see. BMW is pretty top notch these days. But Audi seems pretty good too. 2 years with our S3 and it's been solid. And both R8's we've owned have been solid. I think if you maintain them well and let them warm up before driving hard, they can last a very long time
Both brands are in the top 10 in consumer reports for reliability, but BMW does rank higher than Audi!
@@speeddemon311BMW does. It's right after Toyota/Lexus.
Man that was a lot of Amazon trucks you passed by there
B58 has a proven track record for easy tuning. How does the audi unit compare?
I drove an RS3 with 800 HP. These are solid little motors that make crazy power too! Just not as common since the RS3 and TTRS are the only cars with it vs the B58 being in several BMW's and the Supra.
@BrosFOURRSpeed ah if it's the same engine in the ttrs it has humongous tuning potential too. Can't go far wrong with either cars.
@@pissywilly Yeah they have the same motor. Not too sure who all tunes the newest version in the 8Y, but there is a ton of potential!
To be fair a lot of m340s are beating rs3s rn in the NYC street racing scene. I have a s3 currently and looking to upgrade haven’t decided which I’m going with yet leaning towards m340
RS3 has the higher ceiling, and is just as easy to add power just like the B58! M340i had more mods simply if it's beating an RS3 in a race!
@@speeddemon311 great point. I love my s3 just think it might be time to try a Beamer. Plus can’t you make that power on a b58 platform for way cheaper then a rs3?
Probably just because there is more support and tuning on the M340i right now. I don't think the new RS3 ECU is unlocked yet. But the previous RS3 makes stupid power like the B58 and can be built up more. So the M340i owners just have higher modified car then the RS3 guys they are racing. In total the RS3 will always have more performance mod for mod.
Very easy platform to mod for sure! My Supra has the same B58 and it's easy to work on
Had an RS3 and the m340i has forged internals and can handle more power. Rs3 rods are the weak point. Really miss my rs3 for its nimbleness and takeoff.
Yeah I've seen mixed things about the mods you can do on the RS3. Basic bolt ons and a tune tho make these crazy fast
@@BrosFOURRSpeed just stay away from stage 2 e85 or anything north of 500wtq... basic bolt ons and stage 2 93 should make a great DD
@@boostedveedub9687 Yeah that’s what I heard. It’s fast enough stock. Basic tune and downpipe would be all I want out of it
@@BrosFOURRSpeed very fast stock indeed. Sounds like a good plan!
The direct competitor to the RS3 is the M2 not the M3.
Wouldn’t the RS3 compete more with the M2 and the M340i to the S5?
S4 and S5 Sportback are more the direct competitors to the M340. But like I said in the video I get a ton off comments from people saying they are specifically cross shopping the RS3 and M340i
@@BrosFOURRSpeedI see. Congrats! That 5 cylinder is special
@@verde629 It sure is! Just did an exhaust and midpipe on it. Sounds epic!
Great video but very unfair comparison in my opinion. Yes both cars have similar msrp but you’re comparing Audis top class car the RS series to an M340 which is not considered an M car. It would’ve been more fair to compare a bmw M2 instead of the M340.
Like I mentioned in the video. People continually comment on my videos that they are cross shopping these two specific cars. Also like I said in the video, these are not direct competitors. But clearly a lot of people are cross shopping so this video goes over why you would go for each car. I plan on comparing the M2 to the RS3 soon
Definitely the RS3 , I’ve driven both and loved the RS3 .
Yeah it's a super fun car! Really exciting to drive!
M3 guy here but RS3 here all day, the M340 isn't an M but the RS3 is an RS...Should be Auto M2 vs RS3
Very true! I love the M3 and the RS3 is totally the baby version of it. Hopefully we can check out another M2 and compare it to the RS3. Would be very similar!
Come on, Rs3 is the obvious choice here
The question is. Will car seats fit in the RS3
It should! We'll see in the future tho lol. But this should be good for a pretty normal size car seat
I drove an rs3 for 4.5 years and loved it. Sounds amazing and had great performance. I was always a little disappointed with the looks as the car doesnt really stand out and scream “special” although it certainly is a very special car. The turbo lag was surprisingly prominent but i must say it added greatly to the drama of the driving experience. The biggest downsides were the chassis and the water pump. In the time i owned the car, the water pump had to be replaced three times (cheap plastic part). Also since the rs3 is built on a basic a3 frame, and audi doesnt do much to reinforce it on the rs3, the car practically shook itself apart and was a rattling mess at the end. I bought the car for the engine, not the interior so it never bothered me.
Now i own a m340i x drive. This car feels much more “executive” and refined. Not as exciting but much more comfortable and roomier. I got with m performance exhaust so sounds just as amazing (although not as “unique”) as the rs3. I needed to move on to something larger and more comfortable so the m340 was a perfect choice after the rs3.
The rs3 held its value much better than i am expecting the m340i will.
Brakes on rs3 cost twice as much as m340i and tires were sometimes hard to source (went through a bunch). Confused the tire shop each time cause the wider tires are in front :)
Overall i dont miss the rs3. The m340 is different enough that i dont compare them and think of them as two separate experiences. I can say that i have gotten more compliments on my m340 in the three months i have owned it than with the rs3 over 4.5 years. Just goes to show that the average person still doesnt know what an rs3 is lol.
I have no idea what the hell is up with Audi and their trash water pumps, just garbage. I'm on my 2nd one and it's leaking again.
Great vid but please don't even entertain the notion of compar8an RS3 to an M3...not even close lol
That video is coming soon 😃
For the $25,000 price difference the RS3 is a good baby version of the M3. Certainly not the competitor car. But it's the next step down given the price and performance levels
I'm not gonna lie, I'm tired of seeing audis bmw Mercedes everywhere. It's like if you want a sedan with more than 300 hp and luxurious these are the only options you have. Stinger got discontinued, G70 will be also after few years. CT4 V is probably only other option that looks great. Yeah I might rarely see rs3 but I always see s3 or A3 and I always see 3 series bmw new and old and mercs. Want something unique and different
Thats because most American brands have done away from selling sedans. European markets have a higher demand for sedans. And the Asian automakers just arent into luxury and real performance. So European cars are the one who make the serious sport sedans.
Next time compare M2 and RS3, or S4 and M340i
Yeah when I have the chance I'd love to compare the M2 to the RS3. But as mentioned in the video, I get tons of comments of people cross shopping the M340i to the RS3. While the S4 is more of the competitor, people don't seem to be cross shopping them
M340i looks so much better
That’s subjective 😄
I absolutely love the Audi Rs3 for performance wise and exterior aesthetics, HOWEVER for daily practicality , I would go with the M340i. The BMW has plenty of power for its underrated HP from BMW for day to day usage. The car has more room , and I love the tech. I am trying not to be bias with my comment for I am a BMW owner of a 23 X3M40i. I am a single young male with no kids yet, so the RS3 would fit me perfectly , because I love Compact sedans and SUV , but the RS3 is just a tad bit on the smaller side for me even tho I am 6’1 170lbs on the slimmer side, but I do like a tad more room to wiggle , and to have my passengers comfortable whenever I feel like having company in my vehicle. Congratulations on the purchase. I hope you enjoy it ! HNY ! Cheers 🥂
Yeah RS3 is a smaller car for sure. Its a sacrifice if you need the space. And its a bit on edge in slow speeds with the DCT and brakes being performance oriented. We like it since it feel like my old GTR and has more space then my Supra lol. M340i is that good all around car with plenty of power and space.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed those are high points you’ve mentioned. I personally absolutely probably would have sacrificed to jump into this for it is the same price as my strategically spec out m40i I did on my build from the factory.. my next car when this lease is up is to go for the M3 with less option. Can you all see the Rs3 as long term like 5+ years of ownership?
@@Mr.Lambert777 Yeah the M3 is a beast! Our plan with the RS3 is to see when we grow out of it. Once it becomes too small then we’ll probably get an SQ8 as the family car. And probably trade my Supra in for a GTR or M2.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed nice!!!! I love those opt. I use to own 3 Nissan GTR. I had the opportunity to lease them thru my company. I work for the Nissan manufacturer! Definitely a fun car.
@@Mr.Lambert777 Oh cool! I had a 2014 for 5.5 years and it was a blast! So we’ll see in a few more years if a newer body car makes sense to get into.
Rs3
A45s
Stang 10sp
Supra
Golf
Elantra En.dct
Gr Corolla/ Yaris
All very different but fun cars!
The shiny black flares in the front grill make the front end look cheap. I miss the look of the 2020 S3/RS3. That generation was sporty yet elegant. These new generations look like they're trying too hard.
Yeah the grille takes some getting used to. We now have the car lowered and it makes it look way better! Something about the wider stance and lower ride high takes your eye off the grill and you notice the wide fenders more. Check out some of our newer RS3 video to see the stance
Or the M2.
M2 is a great car! Hopefully I can film one again and do a comparison with the RS3
I’m an Audi fan. Just ordered an S3. Also have an R8. Absolutely love the RS3. Just a little too much for a daily driver.
@@bb57365That’s awesome! Yeah we love our 2016 S3. Will be sad to sell it. No complaints with it
I just don't understand why so many cars come with these horrible gloss black parts. They are dust and finger print magnets and really show up scratches etc. Maybe it's just me though.
Yeah I wish all the gloss black was the satin carbon. Doesn't show anything and looks way cooler
Topher said Elantra N was better than RS3.
ok. Everyone has a different opinion. Elantra N is a great car for half the money. But it's not as fast and not as refined as the RS3. So depends on what you want out of your car. RS3 will also hold better value so you will actually spend more money in the Hyundai since it will depreciate more ;)
RS3 for me love the DAZA engine
Yeah it’s pretty sweet!
Audi exhaust are the best!!
Yeah it sounds cool!
Interior of the m340i eeally puts the rs3 to shame the rs3 looks cheap inside for a flagship performace model. The same interior as a regular a3 minus the rs seats which to me arents even comparable to the full fat M seats. The m seat feels far more supportive and looks way better. But i wont lie pound for pound the rs3 will beaf an m340i every time i just wish audi made the rs Interior feel special like how if you went from a 3 series to a m3 theres a massive jump in quality
Yeah there is a cheap aspect to the RS3 over the M340. But the seats are definitely better. Especially with the Nappa leather vs the fake leather. You can option real leather in the M340. But the RS seats have a better bucket design. The RS really gives you every performance thing you want. Also the carbon fiber and Alcantara do give it a better feeling. Just the upper dash, piano black around the shifter and plastic on the doors is where the RS should have more carbon and leather
The BMW M2 is the direct competitor to the RS3
yup! Hopefully I can film one next to the RS3 soon! But we get a ton of comments of people cross shopping the M340 and RS3
I really like the rs3
The m2 is bmw’s competition for that car
Yeah for sure! I'd love to get another M2 to film. It's be a fun video comparing to the RS
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I’m sure it was
Congrats 😁
They are different classes!!! Why would you compare them? RS3 should be compared with M2 and the m340 with Audi S4. Throttle house knows better, go and see their video
I've done several comparison with the RS3. M340i xDrive. M3 Comp, Nismo Z, Supra, Dark Horse (coming soon), wanted to do an M2 but it sold before I could.
Might as well take a look at cars in the similar price category. It's fun to check out cars that are similar prices that offer very different things. Not every comparison has to be a direct competitor exact same kind of car.
RS3 competes with M2 not M340i
M340i competes with S4/C43 AMG
Like I mentioned in the video, I get tons of people cross shopping these two specific cars. I just filmed the RS3 vs M2 yesterday. So thats coming soon! But from the videos we film of M340s and the RS3. I get a lot of comments of people choses these two cars. Not many enthusiasts seem to care about the S4 and C43 at this price
RS3 is cooler, but the M340i looks better... Definitely a touch choice...
All depends on taste. Both have a great offering
The 340 is not in the same class as the RS3.
Yeah I know, as mentioned in the video. However I get a ton of comments of people cross shopping these two specific vehicles since they cost the same.
Bmw oll day
It's a fun car. Just lacks the excitement of the RS3
Rs3 vs m2
I just need an M2 to film! The one I was planning to film sold before I could get to it
@@BrosFOURRSpeed oh man … hope you can get your hands on one soon
@@bestatdoingnothing3941 Hope so!
They both my favorite 😍
Great cars for sure!
"I bought an rs3 and now I'm going to tell you why I convinced myself it is better."
I mentioned how the M340i is better in certain ways in this video. Each has their strong suits. RS3 is better for performance. M340i is better for practicality and has easier drivability. I talked about each cars strengths and weaknesses. I'm sorry the RS3 is more exciting to drive and is better for performance. But it is. Numbers don't lie and the race car feeling in the RS3 is more exciting.
M340i just looks so much more sleek and aggresive imo. Its insane u said theres way more room in the BMW when the audi looks like a fat egg. 😂 BMW interior is honeslty way nicer looking, audi little cheesy gauge cluster screen looks cheap. Bottom center console where the buttons are doesnt look near as good.
I guess u cant get the carbon fiber bucket seats or M seats in a m340i unless u just didnt get them. Not sure if audi has full self driving like assisted drivers+ and auto park for parallel and normals parking spots but if not BMW is ahead tech wise aswell. Overall just a better looking sports car thats also a 4 door. M3 wouldnt even be a debate on which is better for this generation they win in every aspect even compared to a rs6
M340 had about an inch or two more legroom and headroom. RS3 was still comfortable tho. In person the Audi buttons look and feel nice. And actually has a better appointed interior with real leather, carbon and alcantara. RS3 has lane keeping and adaptive cruise. Does a good job just like the BMW for highway driving. Yes the M3 is a beast. I love that car. But the RS3 is what feels like the baby version of the M3. The M340 is way soft and not as aggressive to drive and is more of a normal 3 series that also has a nice engine. RS3 is a performance sedan first like the M3, but more affordable. Great options for different needs.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed ye honestly given these exact 2 choices only in front of me... it would be a very hard choice. Those seats in the rs3 looked way better then the one in the m340i and it gives u a full RS experience. I do just love the look of the m340i. I would probably need to tune it if I got that though. Which is a hassle.
Yeah the ECU getting unlocked is pricey. We definitely like the RS3 for our needs. Feels a lot like my old GTR but wrapped in a compact M3. M340 felt a bit boring compared to the RS3. If we weren't as into the raw cars, the M340i is a bit smother to drive slow and has that little bit extra space.
Competitor is A45 S.
M2 is bit different as RWD.
"Baby M3" is interesting comparison.
Buyers probably cross shop M340i with S4
We've had a ton of comments from viewers saying they are cross shopping the M340i and the RS3. So seems like the M340i was the go to $65k sporty sedan, but now the RS3 is getting more popular. S4 is more of its competitor, but seems like people are looking at the RS3.
RS3 definitely feels a lot like the M3 and is pretty similar in a lot of ways. Would be nice to film another small sedan like the little AMG cars to compare to the RS3. And the M2 or M3 would be fun to compare to the RS3 as well. Seems like a lot of people are also cross shopping M2 and RS3
Right it makes sense. If similar to M3 then I guess aggressive but fun car. I suppose comfort setting is fine for daily driving. Luckily I secured an Audi beginner track day with all the RS models to truly try it before buy. If it feels good then going to try to secure the RS3 in my preferred spec which won't be easy either. @@BrosFOURRSpeed
@@soulz23 That sounds like some fun!
I actually just filmed an M3 vs the RS3 today.
Yeah can't wait!
I want to see if the new RS3 is more tail happy with the tech they put in and can corner at moderate speed with ease.
I know I won't be confident in a full M car without xDrive.
That will be an informative video.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed
@@soulz23 So far the RS3 is not tail happy at all. Maybe in the Torque Rear mode if you push it. I haven’t been able to push it that hard yet.
the comparison is wrong audi rs 3 compeats with bmw m2 ...audi rs 4 compeats with bmw m3😊
Like I said in the video, I get a lot of comments of people cross shopping these too cars. Also like I said in the video, I know these aren't direct competitors. Did you not listen to what I said in the video? People seem to cross shop these since they cost the same.
There is no Audi RS4 in the US market. Here's my video comparing the RS3 to the M3. Keep in mind there is a $30k price difference. SO the RS3 feels like the baby M3. ua-cam.com/video/HaFGr1Ac6xM/v-deo.html
I plan on comparing the RS3 to an M2 once I have access to one again
Love my M340. RS3 is ugly to me
To each their own. The big grille takes some getting used to
Hate will get you nowhere! Show a little respect to an owner of the car you're bashing!
@@speeddemon311 To be fair, it doesn’t bother me if someone doesn’t like the look of my car. Not every car is for everyone’s taste. However the RS3’s better performance is what really stands out with it 👌🏻
I've had BMW drivers tell me that they hate the look of the 340 while they like the 440. Opposite for me and I absolutely love the looks of the RS3. To each their own. RS3 performance does outshine the 340 though. I got to test drive 2 of them before I jumped on my RS3.
@@Sly_RS3 Basically its an M lite, and not a real M car! RS3 is the real deal, and not just a S model or lesser performance model like the 340i!!
2021-2024 its the same m340 nun really change
Yeah maybe soon they will do an all new design!
Sighs
I mean the m3 looks good in style as well as your rs3
Yeah M3 is a great car. Super fun car at $90k. RS3 and M340 are pretty sweet for the $65k range
Most people who choose M340I don’t want to shell out the extra cash to get a more performance oriented vehicle. RS3 is faster, lighter, more rare, holds its value exceptionally well, and has better interior materials. 340I’s main advantage is really just price and a little extra space
The RS3 is a good car, but imo not a patch on the M340i. It's odd how 'Hot Hatches' are now soooo expensive, considering they are literally just that, a 'hatch', an entry level vehicle built on a short-wheelbase platform with cheap/entry parts like cheap interior, entry tech, lower levels of noise isolation, standard 'non-adaptive' suspension, less cargo room etc.
Normally hatches are cheaper than their sedan counterparts, e.g. BMW 120i has the same power (ish) as a BMW 320i, but costs several thousand less, because of the above reasons (cheaper entry car). But go up to the 'Hot hatches' where cars like the RS3, A45S, even Golf R etc cost as much as an M340i, with similar levels of performance, but fall short in every other aspect is just odd to me
RS3 isn’t a hot hatch tho. The Golf R is a hot hatch. RS3 feels nicer than the M340i. Genuine leather and carbon fiber. Adaptive suspension, steering, more power, bigger brakes. This can is a step up in a lot of aspects
Test drove both and the M340 was better in every category for me.
I guess all out performance wasn't your category lol. M340 is a better car. But the RS3 is a better performance car
You weigh 240 lbs
Expect a $10 - $15k markup for that RS3
I bought mine for MSRP, so don’t expect that lol, I had to wait almost 2 years for it though.
Paid $5k more but so happy with it!
I heard you say normal too many times referring to the M340i 😅🙈
How many?
I think this comparison was biased because reviewer bought the Audi. BMW is a better value for the money. Bigger and more comfortable as a daily driver. Bigger trunk too.
Hideous gloss black interiors in both. FAIL. Looks ultra cheap.
I wouldn't say it looks cheap, what options would you get?
BMW all day
Its a fun option if you need that extra space!
My love is BMW,but this screen on dashboard is a trash design 😩 we need screens inside dash BMWwww
Yeah not everyone likes it. It grew on me and I don't mind it. My wife likes the Audi much more and isn't a fan of the big single screen either
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I agree,it’s very beautiful when classic and new generation are combined!
I thin Mercedes better job,Audi is beautiful..bmw is my love from kid 😁 nice review !
@@GK-Greece Yeah they all have some good designs to offer these days!