I was cross shopping these 2 cars having come from an S3. The handling, turn in, suspension, and power delivery is way better in the M2. The RS3 gets off the line quicker due to AWD and I love the 5 cyl sound, but once the M2 is in 3rd gear it’s lights out for the RS3, the M2 pulls like a madman. You are spot on with the RS3 suspension being stiffer and it bounces around way too much (reminds me of the previous F87 M2) where as the M2 G87 absorbs the bumps while being stiff, like a good performance car should. I think they are both great cars it all depends what you need in a car, if you don’t need 4 doors for sure get the M2. Once I drove them back to back it was an easy decision for me to get the M2. Great vid!1
Just the opposite for me when I test drove both! RS3 just rips and grips everywhere and just feels faster to about 100 mph since you can actually use all the power without an issue with Quattro! RS3 is more usable in the cold, rain, of course, and we won't even mention wintertime! M2 owner I know traded it in for the RS3 after a test drive and said it was the best car he's ever owned after owning several bimmers!! Both great cars, and I'd like to have one of each in my garage, honestly lol!!
I have the 2023 RS3 in Turbo Blue like you.... Great car, owned it 18 months now (low low miles). Getting pretty good quote from dealerships to buy it (61k). Am I crazy to sell it for GR86 in manual transmission? I kinda wanna go back to basics. I know the obvious power difference and it will be different kind of fun. On the RS3, it's just so much power that you can get in trouble real quickly with the law (and living in NY, I'm not even utilizing half the potential). On the 86, you can the power daily and not having to worry about getting into trouble. If I crave the power, we have the '24 X3 M40i as family car lol What are your thoughts?
Not a bad way to go. We have the GR86 and it's a blast to drive! I made a video comparing it to my Supra. Both were the same level of fun, just different ways. The 86, you can drive it like you stole it, and you'll never hit 60 lol. So that could totally be a fun way to take a step back and just have a car you can drive hard and not break the law. X3 M40 is. fun family car!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Yea I saw that comparison video, which is why I'm asking for your input LOL.... I also wanna keep the price around 30K range on my first manual car, so 86 is probably the best choice. I'm just afraid that I will be disappointed on the power coming from RS3.... appreciate your feedback.
You'll defiantly miss the power. However the GR86 is much more peppy then the older FRS and GT86. So it's not bad. We still find it fun to drive even coming from our other cars
RS3 all the way. Better looking, more practical, better resale value, better sound. I've been driving a manual transmission in every one of my cars for the past 30 years until I got my '24 RS3 and I don't miss the manual at all.
@@michaelmich00 Actually not really. The current generation, most do. But a base M3 and M4 drop a decent amount. The M2’s aren’t dropping by much. Neither are xDrive Comps. Current RS3 8Y are going for MSRP or more on the used market
Great review and I like how you are not biased towards one. I had my 2023 G87 M2 with the 6 speed manual for over a year now and it’s simply the best car I ever owned. Coming from a MK3 Supra, S2000, and 135i, my only critique is the lack of steering feel, but that’s almost every new car with electric steering vs hydraulically-assisted. I agree that you don’t feel the weight for a 3750+ lb car. Car ride is actually much more comfortable than the 135i. Just keep in mind if you tune the manual, the torque isn’t recommended above 500, but you probably already know that with your Supra.
Yeah I think a basic tune and bolts ons can work for these. Would probably need a nice clutch for more aggressive tuning. But in a manual I wouldn't be chasing much more power. Probably won't even tune my Supra. Just doesn't crave more power being a manual.
Excellent video showing the pros and cons of both. I love both cars but I did buy the 2024 M2 with the carbon fiber roof and the regular seats, not the carbon sport seats. I’ve always been a manual shift guy but this time I went with the automatic. I found the stick too rubbery for my tastes. Put the auto in manual mode with the shift speed at S3 and BMW says it shifts at 150 milliseconds, which is close to a dual clutch. Backseat room is tight but I’m never back there so I don’t care much about that. Thanks again for a super video…well done! I almost forgot to mention the 10 level traction control which is amazing on the track. You can dial in the car perfectly to suit your performance level. The drift analyzer is cool to have but given the expense of 285/30-20” high performance tires, I’m not about to destroy $500 tires!
OH nice! Glad you are liking the M2! I'll probably buy one at some point when my Supra is too small. I'm torn on the manual or auto for it. Not sure if it would feel too similar to the RS3 if it was auto. So we'll see. Thanks for checking out the vid! We are adding some M2 parts to our website too. So if you want any upgrades let us know!
Got the RS3 8Y now, sportback. Fantastic car, superfast and comfortable at the same time. The only (minor) disappointment is the sound that doesn't come straight outta hell anymore, compared to my previous RS3 8V.
I own a 24 RS3, so I'm a bit biased lol, but your comment sums up the way I feel as well! 5 Cylinder Daza engine is an amazing engine with a character filled soundtrack!!
Both great cars that won't leave their owners unhappy at the end of the day! RS3 is a little more versatile with Quattro, but the M2 has the manual option and can be a lot of fun as well!
I ordered the new m2 LCI in 6 speed manual, and I was comparing this with civic type r which I passed on as I wasn’t a fan of the feel of it, then went to rs3 vs m2, apart from manual because I find paddles boring, but what made me choose m2, was that when you put both cars in sportiest mode, the M2 gives you this feeling that you want to go faster but to me the rs3 felt like a good cruiser with power you forgot about.. not sure if you felt the same lmao
Interesting thoughts on the two. The S58 does have some top end that keeps pulling. Really fun to keep accelerating in it. I actually just bought a Civic TypeR. Fun toy for sure. Not on this level at all. At some point I'd like an M car. Can't go wrong with it! My wife really likes the AWD and 4 doors. Also the unique sound of the I5. So both cars definitely have a different feel
I finally found a glacier white 2024, fully loaded, but it has the design package with the alcantara wheel. Not sure if I like it. Anyone else here feel the same way or do you guys prefer it to the leather?
I prefer leather. Every year you'll need to do a good cleaning on the wheel so it doesn't get all matted. They are cool, but require maintenance to stay nice.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed yeah but it looks like the one I am getting has the alcantara. Since I'm buying it obviously and not leasing it, is it a big process to change the wheel eventually to like another like German Audi wheel that has like leather and a flat bottom or something, something that's only in Europe?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I love the way the white looks with the carbon package, and the Black optics package. So sick! And I'm getting it for $63,465 fully loaded up. So after tax and tag and everything it's under 70k. Can't say no to that
They're giving me 9% off. It's only cuz right now they have to sell the 2024s that they have left at the dealers cuz the 2025s are coming. You can't order anymore 2024s... So whatever they have for sale, it seems like they're adamant on getting rid of them. Which works to our advantage as the customer. Anyway thanks again for your inputs. Appreciate it
No it isn't. The RS3 specifically is an FWD layout. It has a mode to make it sort of RWD biased, but even that doesn't really make it feel like that. Plenty of info on this car talking about it's FWD characteristic
Great Review Both sweet sports car BMW M2 & sports sedan Audi RS3 Have driven both on the street and at Blackhawk Farms Road Track in South Beloit IL. Does your 2024 RS3 have the staggered wheel configuration? That is the Bigger tires - the 255/30 R19 R in front & the 235/35 R19 are the two rear tires? I live in Green Bay and coming from a 2019 Subaru WRX for 3 years - I kept with AWD and was blessed to find a nice low mileage (under 30K miles 2020 Audi RS3) - could not be happier. It has that staggered tire configuration. My wife can drive the Audi RS3 so that helped to get it too :) [ my lovely wife never learned manual transmission and is like so many that just do not care - oh well]. Love my RS3. All the Audi care warranties expire NOV 1 of 2026 so 2027 I will be doing an Integrated Engineering Stage 1 MOD. So that gives me two years to put some better brake rotors, stainless steel brake lines and performance even up to track day level brake pads all the way around I’ll definitely need new tires in there too. U R a very blessed guy to have a RS3 to drive and a Supra to drive. 🏎️🔥🙏
Yup all 8Y cars have wider front wheels. It does make it a bit interesting in steering tho. RS3 has been a lot of fun and my wife certainly loves it! Fun cars for sure!
Aside from the dash and upper doors feeling a bit cheaper. These cars feel at the same level. While there are some cheaper plastics in the RS3, it makes up for it by having genuine materials. Nappa leather seats in the RS3 vs fake leather in the M2. Carbon fiber on the dash and alcantara on the door inserts vs plastic on the M2. So yeah, they feel to be the same level
ua-cam.com/video/fQehZcOObIg/v-deo.html Here's my video comparing the Supra to the RS3. Personally I'd go M2 after my Supra. But if you really need the back seat practicality the RS3 is the way to go
I think the M2 handles bumps better and has better steering feel. But I chose an RS3 because I like it better overall for looks, interior design, sound, etc. Subjective things mostly, but I've got an Exige and a GT3RS for when I'm really in the mood for the "feel" of a precision driver's car, so that aspect of the M2 wasn't enough to push me over the top. If it was an ONLY car...I might have chosen differently.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed did a little research. They are single scroll, but there ARE two of them. This is only making me want to trade the Supra in on an M2 even more 😭
Insane how the m2 inside look futuristic while at the same time you see a classic manual gear box, while the rs3 look cheap and that lame flick gear box.
Honestly they seem to feel like the same quality for the interior. The little shifter thing in the RS3 keeps things out of the way which is kinda nice. Great to see a manual in the M3 tho
Traded my 2023 bmw m2 with bolt ons for a 2024 rs3. The m2 was a fast fast car, but I’m in the PNW and it rains often, completely useless in the rain. Lol also rs3 feels a bit more special tbh.
People forget how important traction is when buying a car with this kind of horsepower! Quattro gives the RS3 so much usability in all weather, and 4 doors is a plus imo!!
Get the S5, for 5K you can mod it into a MONSTER, 3.1 to 60. 10.9 quarter. And its comfortable and looks great. best car out there, if you know, you know.
S5 is a great car. But not on the same level as these cars in terms of true performance. Yes it will have power, but it's not the same level of handling and track performance. Very different buyer
The 2026 M2 will come in Xdrive but only in the Z8 speed but with a bump in power to 500 hp. BMW always under rates it’s power. That’s the M2 I’m waiting for.
Honestly the Audi I5 is a pretty strong engine. Audi and BMW seems pretty good. However we've had issues with our BMW's we've owned. Never had issues with any of our Audis.
@@ClarityRyZze ua-cam.com/video/HL53ejC18Mo/v-deo.htmlsi=0y_OYFo3b-fRxamS Here’s my POV review of this M2. I have three review on this exact car on the channel. It’s a big sunroof for a coupe. I’d totally spec it with one
Ok? Both have very similar prices and performance. There really isn't anything that truly competes with these two cars. As like I mentioned in the video, I get tons of comments of people saying they are cross shopping these two specific cars. So clearly enough people are looking to buy an RS3 or M2
If I’m looking for a family car, a four door all wheel drive sedan with some power, RS4 would be it. But, if I’m looking for a fun, rear wheel drive, six speed, proper sport car, M2 all day long.
Yeah very true. Would be nice to have an RS4 again. RS3 is kinda like what the last ten RS4 was all about. But this should be a good family car to start with since the back is pretty practical for a small car
I like both equally. I live in the Midwest so I’d go Audi, until BMW brings out an AWD M2! If I’m being honest, the Germans can’t make a great/solid standard transmission! My favorite manuals ever were my ‘08 Honda S2000, my 2006 & 2010 Dodge Vipers, & my 2012 Chevy Corvette Z06. My BMWs & my 911 manuals were all average at best. German manuals lack that solid rifle bolt accurate shifting. German manuals feel too rubbery with too much play in them! So - make my next BMW M2 AWD with an Automatic Tranny! 😂 YMMV👍
Yeah my manual Supra is much better feeling. Toyota built that transmission and it's amazing! I don't hate the M2 manual. It's very forgiving and still fun. But certainly could be more direct. Both are some fun tho! I've heard some rumors about 2025 having AWD. Would basically be an M4 Comp lol
@@keanumunteanu the steering is definitely more direct. But the I5 is quicker off the line and in tighter roads. M2 has a lot going for it for sure tho
M2 S58 > RS3 DAZA. if you want more power, go for M2. The same DAZA set the record 3 years back and never get faster cause it hit limit at 1400bhp while S58 is new. Even B58 is better than DAZA.
I think if the I5 maxes out at 1,400 HP, that's pretty good. Very capable engine and has been proven. M2 with the S58 is a blast too and can certainly make power. B58 seems about on par with the I5. I own a Supra and like it a lot. I5 sounds super cool tho
test drove both and its the m2 and its not even close m2 has 100 hp more (BMW are lying about the real hp numbers), rs3 feels front wheel drive, it rides higher, softer/less sporting steering, worse sounding engine surprisingly, its actually a bit more money base price, and no manual and most importantly the m2 is a lot more fun (and im a big RS guy. I daily an RS car).
Yeah the RS3 has some quirks. Once you do an exhaust and upgraded springs tho, it sounds amazing and starts to feel more responsive. But the M2 is great and I'll probably trade my Supra for one at some point lol
Meh, with the RS3 being lowered and having teh front lip on it, I'd say it looks way meaner. M2 needs to be lower and have some things added to look as aggressive
Yeah but it's not as fun to drive. It's a step down in performance. Not the same ball game. Here's my comparison with the M340 and RS3. It's a better day driver, but not as good of a performance car. ua-cam.com/video/cYCrxjs7Ucs/v-deo.html
Not at all lol. These two have very identical performance. RS3 is quicker overall tho with the AWD. M2 has a bit more top end. Very comparable and similar cars
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I wasn’t talking about performance but just my opinion which car I would prefer, my bad for not specifying this. Both great cars for sure, i prefer the M2 though.
Yeah I did a comparison with my manual Supra and a manual M2. Supra is certainly the drivers cars of the two when compared back to back. ua-cam.com/video/lfriLa3ZijY/v-deo.html
Currently torn between these two. For Chicago winter, RS3 seems like a more rational choice as my only car. But I have heard some 8Y RS3 owners are facing reliability issues already so that’s an ouch.
Yeah the AWD is great for that! Especially with s good set of performance all season tires. I havent heard anything bad about either car just yet. The M2 is probably a but easier to work on since the engine and transmission is more common in their brand. Regular servicing should keep the RS3 solid tho. Lots of owners rack up the miles in these
ua-cam.com/video/cYCrxjs7Ucs/v-deo.htmlsi=USqxrttYg_H1oDNY Here’s my video of the M340 vs RS3. Same price and 4 doors. As a performance car tho the M2 and RS3 are very similar in how they drive. Also like I mentioned in the video, I’ve had several comments of viewers wanting to see this video
The M2 is a better track weapon, yes (especially the 2025 with closer to 500 hp) but the RS3 is more unique and special and it's a great sleeper because people think it's a Corolla or something. Looking forward to the 2025 refresh which will fix the front grill, my biggest issue with the car (aside from being able to tune it). BMW will keep cranking out ugly, heavy M cars like cheeseburgers and honestly most of the owners are obnoxious
Yeah most people don't know the RS3 has a fast little motor! Both have a lot going for them for sure. It'll be interesting to see what a new M2 or RS3 looks like. I've heard things about both cars getting a refresh
@@G82Watts so true! I’ve stopped caring much about how cars look. They always end up looking cool. When the new M2 and RS3 come out. People will hate it and say they loved the old one. Happens every time
M2 is just meh by comparison honestly, that all digital dash just looks cheap like the new mustangs. RS3 all day, more practical awd and that 5 pot banger monster that can also be driven daily for commute in comfort just can’t be beat.
One of those cars is absolutely painful to look at… I don’t love front-biased AWD systems, but I simply couldn’t walk into my garage every day and confront the hideousness of the M2. It looks like it was built from Legos.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed depends on what metric you are looking at when you say "RS3 is a lot faster". As a Audi/VW/BMW fan I love all of them, so no bias here... I just think depending on your use case one each one could be better for you. The RS3 absolutely faster from a dig when looking at 0-60 and 1/4 mile times but as speeds increase the M2 takes over. When you are talking rolls M2 leaves RS3 in the dust. Again I love both and living in Colorado I'd love to have both...RS3 as my daily (especially in winter) and the M2 for when I want to do get rowdy and do track days or hit the canyons. Full transparency...I'm a F87 M2 Comp owner but have owned many VW, Audi and BMWs BTW - great work on the review!
@@pushdaenvelope Yeah that’s why I mentioned the real comparison comes down to if a potential buyers wants AWD or Rwd. A manual. And 2 doors vs 4. Both very similar cars just depends on what buyers want. Especially comparing the manual M2 to the RS3. RS3 is much quicker zipping around town and in the back roads. I plan on buying an M2 in a year or so to replace my Supra. But love what the RS3 offers as well
You can't really call either car beautiful. You have an econobox 4 door look with the RS3 but it is about performance, not looks. The M2 looks like molded concrete, a brutally ugly design with a tacked on display screen. It takes huge front tires on the M2 to hold that excessive weight in a curve. Because there is no aesthetic value in the M2 at all, I would give the win to the RS3 because aesthetics is still a component to me even though BMW and some others have given it up to save money on a their budgets.
After owning a m2 for a year its definitely not pretty, but that's what i like about it, it's more like a musclar bulldog look to it, if i wants something pretty i would've bought a c8 corvette.
Look is subjective. The M2 has lot of bold angular designs and wide stance. These design hues are either saturated or do not pick up well in picture and video. In person, I love the look of the car, as it is in your face bulldog look like @hpickettz34 mentioned, which constantly drawing my eyes’ attention to it. No complaint on the screen and IDrive8, it s not like BMW is the only one doing that, though I kind of wish they incorporated the screen on driver side into a digital speedometer like rs3.
@Kenyon712 Yeah, an economy car you say was able to set a record in its class around the ring in Germany, and beat an 85k BMW M2 CS by a lot around that same track lol!
In some ways sort of. But it doesn't handle as well as these and isn't as fast. Basic tuning on these cars can make 550 WHP to 700 WHP very easy. New GT is a lot of car for $10k less. But the German cars still have a leg up I think as a total package
@@BrosFOURRSpeed with 10k ford will install a 3.0 whipple with a warranty making 790whp Street speed 717 just did it how do you beat that for the money 65k 800 whp with a 3/36 warranty
I'd go for the RS3. Would only lease one tho. Every salesperson I have spoken with at Audi has told me you'll go bankrupt owning an RS car out of warranty 😂😂
Kind of silly if they actually like selling cars😂, and the RS3 and TTRS are both very reliable platforms that have a proven track record for well over a decade!! Every sales rep I've talked to says the opposite to me! These cars handle a lot of mods and power gains without an issue as well!
You' waste a ton of money leasing one. The new RS3 still goes for MSRP on the used market. Can buy one and drive it for a few years and sell it for what you paid. These are pretty easy to maintain as well
Both are a waste of money you could have any Corvette including the base C8 for that price. Like whats the point in paying more for less performance? bmw never won the 24hr lemans over the corvette despite competing for 20+ years. That should speak volumes as far as competitive performance goes. BMW and the RS audis actually can't even compete with the laptimes of the midpackage Camaro or Mustang on the Nurburgring which is actually both their home course. I love m3s and e30s and even owned one myself but were lying to ourselves if we're really trying to convince others that these cars are the best bang for your buck.
Not everyone wants a car derived from a racecar. These are both practical cars with space to put kids and extra items. Yes a new Corvette is a great sportscar for the money, and equally equipped costs closer to $85,000. Nobody wants a base C8. It's missing some key features that these cars will have like adaptive suspension, navigation, active exhaust and other features. I own a Lamborghini, so there wouldn't be a point to have another mid engine car. The RS3 is a great family sedan for us but it is also fun to drive and super fast. The M2 will end up replacing my Supra when I want a fun manual car with back seats.
Always the one troll that thinks he knows what's the best car for everyone, even know some people need a more useful performance car that is capable in all weather!! Get a clue!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed you say that "not everyone wants a race car" yet that would could contradict the purpose in why anyone watches this video. Lets face it, nobody means sound insulation and mpg when we're talking about spending 80k on a "performance car". a base z51 comes with all that you named actually and costed only 73k pre quarantine. you're also not addressing the fact that i said "any corvette" which includes previous generations like the C6-C7 z06 or ZR1 or even a 2018 ZL1 camaro/shelby for the same price all of which offer more performance and less depreciation for less money. My question still stands... whats the point in a bmw/audi in a conversation about performance and pricing? That's like comparing phiss to sh it in a flavor contest, its all bad 😂
@@speeddemonRS3 but that wasn't the point of the video now was it? All weather you say? Are you aware that a crappy rt challenger has more mechanical grip than awd crossover? Even more of a reason to save money and NOT buy a "luxury" brand for practical use. Buy American. I don't even like American cars I'm just speaking objectively.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed You should try it. I drive a much slower BMW than your RS3, but it is fast enough for the city limits (with reasonable speeding over it). Drifting makes every turn/turnaround potentially fun. Just need to make sure no cops are around.
No idea what you're talking about. I cannot see why anyone would buy the RS3 other than a little bit more "practicality". Also, "drift capabilities" 🤣 The M2 is made to drift, the RS3 tries to emulate it badly; front biased AWD is awful. The S58 is a monster of an engine, an engineering masterpeice; it sounds and performs so much better than the RS3 5 cyl.
@@rustygates3367M2 looks bad and sounds so so. S58 with RWD is borderline useless. In real life RS3 will be faster and massively faster in not perfect weather.
@@Trithij Funny you say that when a RWD M2 beats the AWD RS3 on the Nordschliefe. M2 rank 90, RS3 rank 101. The M2 is also faster on the 1/4 mile. Its obvious you don't know much about the M2 and how incredible it handles and feels to drive. Its much more fun than the rs3. All reviewers agree with that. Also, I think the M2 looks amazing, much better than the RS3 with its big plastic grille.
@BrosFOURRSpeed Seriously I get you like it, and it grows on people after a while, which shouldn't be necessary, but the appearance is a letdown compared to such a beautiful design in the M2 comp to most people!! It's a polarizing design!
@@speeddemonRS3 The old one looked good too. It all BMW’s ended up looking the same over the years. Sometimes companies have to be bold to pace a new way. I’m sure when the next gen comes out. We’ll get people who say the old one was better. It happens on every car for every new generation
@BrosFOURRSpeed It doesn't happen for every car on every new generation! BMW is just on a roll in recent years because they have a new lead designer who has made many questionable decisions lol
@@speeddemonRS3 I mentioned in the video how both cars look a bit unique. Personally I’m just over caring that much about how a car looks. Because nearly every car, people hate it when it comes out. And then love it several years later. I see it in the UA-cam comments a lot. Been filming cars for 12 years. And it’s the same thing every time. I like the style of both cars tho. They look different and they stand out
I considered both. Went back and forth for months. There is now an M2 in my garage. Couldn't be happier. M2 is amazing!
lol nice! Certainly a great car!
Good choice 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wait for the 2025 with more power and colors. Driving 2023 RS3 for now. I will say I truly loathe most BMW owners
@fzr1000981 I already have the M2 but if they add x drive and more power, I might trade up.
@@scottyk329 xdrive is just more weight and numb steering, yes it's faster 0-60
I was cross shopping these 2 cars having come from an S3. The handling, turn in, suspension, and power delivery is way better in the M2. The RS3 gets off the line quicker due to AWD and I love the 5 cyl sound, but once the M2 is in 3rd gear it’s lights out for the RS3, the M2 pulls like a madman. You are spot on with the RS3 suspension being stiffer and it bounces around way too much (reminds me of the previous F87 M2) where as the M2 G87 absorbs the bumps while being stiff, like a good performance car should. I think they are both great cars it all depends what you need in a car, if you don’t need 4 doors for sure get the M2. Once I drove them back to back it was an easy decision for me to get the M2. Great vid!1
Yeah very true. M2 has a more weighted feeling and certainly has the top end from the twin turbo motor. Great car to go for!
Just the opposite for me when I test drove both! RS3 just rips and grips everywhere and just feels faster to about 100 mph since you can actually use all the power without an issue with Quattro! RS3 is more usable in the cold, rain, of course, and we won't even mention wintertime! M2 owner I know traded it in for the RS3 after a test drive and said it was the best car he's ever owned after owning several bimmers!! Both great cars, and I'd like to have one of each in my garage, honestly lol!!
Lots of BMW fanbois troll these comments
i’m taking the m2 as well. great comparison
Great car! I'll probably buy one in the nest year or two to replace my Supra. Will be fun to have one alongside the RS3
Love the m2, the s58 is a league above.
Yeah it's wild! Downpipes, Flex Fuel and tuning can make 700 WHP on these!
You can shut all that off and with an aftermarket exhaust, they sound pretty good
Above the daza?
@@ericp2427Yes.
@@BrosFOURRSpeedbut you can get around 600 with the RS and its already quicker from a dig with the awd.
I have the 2023 RS3 in Turbo Blue like you.... Great car, owned it 18 months now (low low miles).
Getting pretty good quote from dealerships to buy it (61k).
Am I crazy to sell it for GR86 in manual transmission? I kinda wanna go back to basics.
I know the obvious power difference and it will be different kind of fun.
On the RS3, it's just so much power that you can get in trouble real quickly with the law (and living in NY, I'm not even utilizing half the potential). On the 86, you can the power daily and not having to worry about getting into trouble.
If I crave the power, we have the '24 X3 M40i as family car lol
What are your thoughts?
Not a bad way to go. We have the GR86 and it's a blast to drive! I made a video comparing it to my Supra. Both were the same level of fun, just different ways. The 86, you can drive it like you stole it, and you'll never hit 60 lol. So that could totally be a fun way to take a step back and just have a car you can drive hard and not break the law. X3 M40 is. fun family car!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Yea I saw that comparison video, which is why I'm asking for your input LOL.... I also wanna keep the price around 30K range on my first manual car, so 86 is probably the best choice. I'm just afraid that I will be disappointed on the power coming from RS3.... appreciate your feedback.
If a dealer is actually offering you 61K I would take it and run
@@grahmdoughty That's what i'm thinking.... lol
You'll defiantly miss the power. However the GR86 is much more peppy then the older FRS and GT86. So it's not bad. We still find it fun to drive even coming from our other cars
RS3 all the way. Better looking, more practical, better resale value, better sound. I've been driving a manual transmission in every one of my cars for the past 30 years until I got my '24 RS3 and I don't miss the manual at all.
RS3 is some fun! I still prefer the manual since I like the fun factor. But the RS3 is a little rocket and is perfect with the DCT
Ths sound is less compared to the 8V though...
bmw m's hold better value fyi
@@michaelmich00 Actually not really. The current generation, most do. But a base M3 and M4 drop a decent amount. The M2’s aren’t dropping by much. Neither are xDrive Comps. Current RS3 8Y are going for MSRP or more on the used market
@@BrosFOURRSpeed oh okay. so what would u do, buy m2 now or wait 2 years? lookslike the market just doesnt go down
Great review and I like how you are not biased towards one. I had my 2023 G87 M2 with the 6 speed manual for over a year now and it’s simply the best car I ever owned. Coming from a MK3 Supra, S2000, and 135i, my only critique is the lack of steering feel, but that’s almost every new car with electric steering vs hydraulically-assisted. I agree that you don’t feel the weight for a 3750+ lb car. Car ride is actually much more comfortable than the 135i. Just keep in mind if you tune the manual, the torque isn’t recommended above 500, but you probably already know that with your Supra.
Yeah I think a basic tune and bolts ons can work for these. Would probably need a nice clutch for more aggressive tuning. But in a manual I wouldn't be chasing much more power. Probably won't even tune my Supra. Just doesn't crave more power being a manual.
@@BrosFOURRSpeedYou’ll feel the weight after you track it and have to spend extra on breaks and tires
I like the way you do your comparison videos! Great job!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Yes, they do a thorough job, and that's why I stay subscribed!!
Excellent video showing the pros and cons of both. I love both cars but I did buy the 2024 M2 with the carbon fiber roof and the regular seats, not the carbon sport seats. I’ve always been a manual shift guy but this time I went with the automatic. I found the stick too rubbery for my tastes. Put the auto in manual mode with the shift speed at S3 and BMW says it shifts at 150 milliseconds, which is close to a dual clutch. Backseat room is tight but I’m never back there so I don’t care much about that. Thanks again for a super video…well done! I almost forgot to mention the 10 level traction control which is amazing on the track. You can dial in the car perfectly to suit your performance level. The drift analyzer is cool to have but given the expense of 285/30-20” high performance tires, I’m not about to destroy $500 tires!
OH nice! Glad you are liking the M2! I'll probably buy one at some point when my Supra is too small. I'm torn on the manual or auto for it. Not sure if it would feel too similar to the RS3 if it was auto. So we'll see. Thanks for checking out the vid!
We are adding some M2 parts to our website too. So if you want any upgrades let us know!
Got the RS3 8Y now, sportback. Fantastic car, superfast and comfortable at the same time. The only (minor) disappointment is the sound that doesn't come straight outta hell anymore, compared to my previous RS3 8V.
Yeah they are some fun! I have midpipes and the AWE exhaust. Sounds amazing and really wakes up!
Nice comparison once again keep em comin 👏
Thanks! Glad yo finally get this video!
I’m buying a g87 m2 soon I’m torn between manual and auto, I’m thinking of going with the manual since they did away with the DCT
The manual is definitely a lot more fun!
I'd get the RS3 if you could get them in canada. Also, if i had any money.
yeah it's a blast! I thought these are available in Canada ?
Love the Rs3. The inline 5 is awesome. For the m2, the look starts to grow on me. Only back is still something to get used to
Yeah I'd agree with that. The back could use something. I'm sure lowered with wider wheels would help
I own a 24 RS3, so I'm a bit biased lol, but your comment sums up the way I feel as well! 5 Cylinder Daza engine is an amazing engine with a character filled soundtrack!!
@@speeddemonRS3 rs3 and M2 are on my list for next upgrade! Which year do you have?
@@TTGamingTrinh 2024 in Daytona Gray with black optics package!
@@speeddemonRS3 amazing!
I’ll take one of each!
Heck yeah! Fun cars!
I've consistently seen crazy RS3 builts pushing 1000 1500 plus hp. These cars have so much potential
Yeah they have a lot of potentioal. M2 has great potential too. Can make 700 WHP on stock turbos
I prefer stock cars
@@juliogomez8969 cool. Buy what works for you. M2 and RS3 are great even stock!
But if at least do an exhaust to wake up the sound
Are they both still pretty reliable with minor mods and a tune? I'm sure the warranty is void though.
RS3 forever.....look in Germany at MTM tuning ...an rs3 with 653 HP.....and quattro....amazing.........supercar killer
100-200 just 6,3 sec
0-100 2.9 sec........that's amazing
Oh cool! Would be fun to dive into that!
currently i have benz C300, audi rs3 my next car 😍
Nice! You'll love the upgrade!
2022 I wanted an RS3 8Y, but I luckily changed my mind once BMW caught my attention with the G chassis
Oh cool. Definitely a car too!
Both great cars that won't leave their owners unhappy at the end of the day! RS3 is a little more versatile with Quattro, but the M2 has the manual option and can be a lot of fun as well!
Luckily?
I ordered the new m2 LCI in 6 speed manual, and I was comparing this with civic type r which I passed on as I wasn’t a fan of the feel of it, then went to rs3 vs m2, apart from manual because I find paddles boring, but what made me choose m2, was that when you put both cars in sportiest mode, the M2 gives you this feeling that you want to go faster but to me the rs3 felt like a good cruiser with power you forgot about.. not sure if you felt the same lmao
Interesting thoughts on the two. The S58 does have some top end that keeps pulling. Really fun to keep accelerating in it. I actually just bought a Civic TypeR. Fun toy for sure. Not on this level at all. At some point I'd like an M car. Can't go wrong with it! My wife really likes the AWD and 4 doors. Also the unique sound of the I5. So both cars definitely have a different feel
I have a 2019 RS3 and I love it!
It's definitely a fun car!
2024 Audi RS3, Cause I really wants that car.
Yeah the RS3 is a great option!
I finally found a glacier white 2024, fully loaded, but it has the design package with the alcantara wheel. Not sure if I like it. Anyone else here feel the same way or do you guys prefer it to the leather?
I prefer leather. Every year you'll need to do a good cleaning on the wheel so it doesn't get all matted. They are cool, but require maintenance to stay nice.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed yeah but it looks like the one I am getting has the alcantara. Since I'm buying it obviously and not leasing it, is it a big process to change the wheel eventually to like another like German Audi wheel that has like leather and a flat bottom or something, something that's only in Europe?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I love the way the white looks with the carbon package, and the Black optics package. So sick! And I'm getting it for $63,465 fully loaded up. So after tax and tag and everything it's under 70k. Can't say no to that
They're giving me 9% off. It's only cuz right now they have to sell the 2024s that they have left at the dealers cuz the 2025s are coming. You can't order anymore 2024s... So whatever they have for sale, it seems like they're adamant on getting rid of them. Which works to our advantage as the customer. Anyway thanks again for your inputs. Appreciate it
@@Daveyboy_RS3 Yeah not bad at all! Get some alcantara cleaner and a nice brush and just keep it clean every now and then and you'll love it!
Both looks awesome
Oh yeah!
The 8Y RS3 awd is rear wheel biased, not front wheel, it has torque vectoring differential that allows for drift mode.
No it isn't. The RS3 specifically is an FWD layout. It has a mode to make it sort of RWD biased, but even that doesn't really make it feel like that. Plenty of info on this car talking about it's FWD characteristic
Everybody wants more horsepower which is why the m2 is a pick. Rs3 is perfect.
Yeah the M2 can make 700 HP pretty easy. But the RS3 can be just as fast with less power with the AWD. Fun car!
You get it bro!😂
Great Review
Both sweet sports car BMW M2 & sports sedan Audi RS3
Have driven both on the street and at Blackhawk Farms Road Track in South Beloit IL.
Does your 2024 RS3 have the staggered wheel configuration? That is the Bigger tires - the 255/30 R19 R in front & the 235/35 R19 are the two rear tires?
I live in Green Bay and coming from a 2019 Subaru WRX for 3 years - I kept with AWD and was blessed to find a nice low mileage (under 30K miles 2020 Audi RS3) - could not be happier. It has that staggered tire configuration. My wife can drive the Audi RS3 so that helped to get it too :) [ my lovely wife never learned manual transmission and is like so many that just do not care - oh well]. Love my RS3. All the Audi care warranties expire NOV 1 of 2026 so 2027 I will be doing an Integrated Engineering Stage 1 MOD. So that gives me two years to put some better brake rotors, stainless steel brake lines and performance even up to track day level brake pads all the way around I’ll definitely need new tires in there too. U R a very blessed guy to have a RS3 to drive and a Supra to drive. 🏎️🔥🙏
Yup all 8Y cars have wider front wheels. It does make it a bit interesting in steering tho. RS3 has been a lot of fun and my wife certainly loves it! Fun cars for sure!
Interior is the same quality ? Are you sure about that ? Most reviewers mention that rs3 interior is much cheaper feelings then the m2
Aside from the dash and upper doors feeling a bit cheaper. These cars feel at the same level. While there are some cheaper plastics in the RS3, it makes up for it by having genuine materials. Nappa leather seats in the RS3 vs fake leather in the M2. Carbon fiber on the dash and alcantara on the door inserts vs plastic on the M2. So yeah, they feel to be the same level
@BrosFOURRSpeed Like the way you pointed out the differences in quality between the two, and both have a great interior overall imo!
@@speeddemonRS3 yeah both are solid choices! Really just comes down to if you want a 2 door or 4 door
Between these two, it’s the rs3 all day. I’d have one but I ended up getting a g83 m4 for just a bit more space
I chose my 24 RS3 after test driving both, but you can't go wrong either way imo!!
Oh cool. M4 is a great car too!
The 5 cyl is special, but front wheel bias is a deal breaker for me. I have a stage 3 B9S4 and love the rear wheel bias.
Yeah I wish it was red biased. But still a wicked fun car!
Just wish they had vent. seats and more options and also colors.
Yeah would be a nice touch! For the M2 there are a ton of colors available now. Plus you can always do custom colors for either car
@BrosFOURRSpeed yeah m2 has better color options although I like the rs's red. The custom green would be awesome, but they want crazy prices for them.
Yeah those custom ones cost like $5k. But plenty of good choices on both to make them pop!
Thinking bout trading in my Supra for an rs3, still not sure if I should.
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Here's my video comparing the Supra to the RS3. Personally I'd go M2 after my Supra. But if you really need the back seat practicality the RS3 is the way to go
You'd be happy either way, the supra sound system is garbage.
I think the M2 handles bumps better and has better steering feel. But I chose an RS3 because I like it better overall for looks, interior design, sound, etc. Subjective things mostly, but I've got an Exige and a GT3RS for when I'm really in the mood for the "feel" of a precision driver's car, so that aspect of the M2 wasn't enough to push me over the top. If it was an ONLY car...I might have chosen differently.
Is it twin turbo or twin scroll turbo?
M2 has the s58 motor which has two turbos. I'm sure they are twin scroll turbos as well tho
@@BrosFOURRSpeed did a little research. They are single scroll, but there ARE two of them. This is only making me want to trade the Supra in on an M2 even more 😭
@@suprola7961 yeah the S58 is a beast of a motor! I’ll be swapping my Supra for one eventually 😅
The Supra is more fun to drive and looks much better in person, and on top of that, the value will hold much better with the Supra guaranteed 👍
Why do you get the lowest spec in the UK as standard carbon interior and roof standard on the M2 in Europe
For us the carbon interior in the M2 is an upgrade you have to pay for
I like them both, but the RS3 is have a weird tyres set up, bigger up front and smaller out back, that weird to me
Yeah it's weird for are! I've heard a lot of people doing a square setup on these
2018 rs3 here❤ . I will take audi all over again if I had too.
Nice! Yeah these are some fun!
How would you compare these to Giulia Quadrifoglio in terms of driving excitement?
that car is like 30k more expensive than these, not the same league.
I'd say similar level of fun. We had one for a week and I really liked it! ua-cam.com/video/zpyCueKSbNU/v-deo.html
@@nubtubbert In used market they are the same
@@anirbano where I'm from, in used market they're still around 20k+ difference
Insane how the m2 inside look futuristic while at the same time you see a classic manual gear box, while the rs3 look cheap and that lame flick gear box.
Honestly they seem to feel like the same quality for the interior. The little shifter thing in the RS3 keeps things out of the way which is kinda nice. Great to see a manual in the M3 tho
I have an 18 RS3. Best car I’ve ever owned.
Nice! Great car!
Which other cars did you had?
Traded my 2023 bmw m2 with bolt ons for a 2024 rs3. The m2 was a fast fast car, but I’m in the PNW and it rains often, completely useless in the rain. Lol also rs3 feels a bit more special tbh.
Yeah the AWD really lets you do anything all season long!
People forget how important traction is when buying a car with this kind of horsepower! Quattro gives the RS3 so much usability in all weather, and 4 doors is a plus imo!!
M4 Competition then
@@AntonioOliveira-mz5co keep in mind this video showcases the RS3 and M2 which cost $65,000. M4 Comp is nearly $90,000. Not in the same category
@BrosFOURRSpeed Thank you for pointing that out, and it should have been obvious there not in the same class lol
Get the S5, for 5K you can mod it into a MONSTER, 3.1 to 60. 10.9 quarter. And its comfortable and looks great. best car out there, if you know, you know.
S5 is a great car. But not on the same level as these cars in terms of true performance. Yes it will have power, but it's not the same level of handling and track performance. Very different buyer
The 2026 M2 will come in Xdrive but only in the Z8 speed but with a bump in power to 500 hp. BMW always under rates it’s power. That’s the M2 I’m waiting for.
Oh interesting. That would basically be an M4 Comp lol. I'd still want a manual, so hopefully I can get a good used one in a year or so
@@BrosFOURRSpeed There probably won't be M2 with Xdrive and manual.
At $15K more. 😂
The only thing I hate about the M2 is the rear bumper. I hope they make some body kits
Yeah it's a bit bulky
I miss when new sports cars were sub 3000 lbs 😂. Now “light”’sports cars are 3500 lbs😅
Yeah I know, things are getting heavy! But you don't notice in these cars tho
Love ur RS3
Thanks! Fun car!
@BrosFOURRSpeed hopefully I can get one next year
The RS3 all day. It’s noticeably faster/quicker, just look at the specs, and AWD is great in all weather. The inline five is just so special too.
Yeah it's a blast! Love how it has so much traction and speed!
How tf M2 65k ?!😮😮😮
In dubai 100k 😢
Dubai is a lot more expensive in general.
In Taiwan m2 is 115k 😂
M2 is my choice. I do not know a lot about Audi cars but I do not think of the brand when I think of sports cars.
BMW definitely has a larger array of performance cars. But Audi has made a good name with the R8 and RS cars. RS3 packs a ton
It always trips me out to recognize the area. 115/485
lol cool!
The only thing i hate about the new audi desing is that shifter. Oh and no flat bottom steering wheel
I like the little shifter. Nice and out of the way. But I do miss the flat bottom wheel from our 2016 S3. So much better!
My vote goes to the M2. Should be more reliable than the Audi as well (I know neither brand is known for good reliability)
It’s 2024 not 1980. They’re both reliable.
Honestly the Audi I5 is a pretty strong engine. Audi and BMW seems pretty good. However we've had issues with our BMW's we've owned. Never had issues with any of our Audis.
@@BrosFOURRSpeedgood to know. thank you
@@BrosFOURRSpeedAudi is slightly more reliable these days!!
M2 every time!!
Great option!
G87 M2 will my next car someday. I need money somehow. RS3 is four doors and it doesn't have the S58. I don't care about it at all.
lol ok. The inline 5 is super unique and makes amazing power. S58 is a bMW engine, of course it wouldn't be in the RS3.
Tough choice for me. It'll probably come down to which one i get a better deal on.
Yeah that's definitely a good way to make the decision
RS3 all day
Great option!
For 90% of drivers on a twisty road, they are going to be faster than in the M2.
How so? The AWD in the RS3 is a bit more confident to go faster for the typical driver
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Reread my post. That is what I was saying. They are going to be faster in an RS3 than an M2...; )
@@layne4376 oh lol. I didn't see the word 'than' ;)
I want the manual M2 but i heard the gears are too tall for it to be worth it or fun. 😢
Where’d you hear that? I wouldn’t agree. ua-cam.com/video/LrHCJHtgb90/v-deo.htmlsi=E-Y4lfuLoZQdFAd-
I hoped you show us the sunroof a bit more. The sunroof is such a rare option on the m2, cant seem to find a good video about it
It doesn’t operate any differently than any other sunroof, nothing special about it.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed i am aware that its a normal sunroof but i was considering to spec it or not and wanted to see how far ot opens :)
@@ClarityRyZze ua-cam.com/video/HL53ejC18Mo/v-deo.htmlsi=0y_OYFo3b-fRxamS
Here’s my POV review of this M2. I have three review on this exact car on the channel. It’s a big sunroof for a coupe. I’d totally spec it with one
@@BrosFOURRSpeed nice thanks a lot for linking it!!
No problem! Cool to see its a $0 cost option. I dont think its worth spending the money on the carbon roof. As much as it looks cool
One is a 4 door family sedan and the other one a proper sports car
Ok? Both have very similar prices and performance. There really isn't anything that truly competes with these two cars. As like I mentioned in the video, I get tons of comments of people saying they are cross shopping these two specific cars. So clearly enough people are looking to buy an RS3 or M2
If I’m looking for a family car, a four door all wheel drive sedan with some power, RS4 would be it. But, if I’m looking for a fun, rear wheel drive, six speed, proper sport car, M2 all day long.
Yeah very true. Would be nice to have an RS4 again. RS3 is kinda like what the last ten RS4 was all about. But this should be a good family car to start with since the back is pretty practical for a small car
I like both equally. I live in the Midwest so I’d go Audi, until BMW brings out an AWD M2! If I’m being honest, the Germans can’t make a great/solid standard transmission! My favorite manuals ever were my ‘08 Honda S2000, my 2006 & 2010 Dodge Vipers, & my 2012 Chevy Corvette Z06. My BMWs & my 911 manuals were all average at best. German manuals lack that solid rifle bolt accurate shifting. German manuals feel too rubbery with too much play in them! So - make my next BMW M2 AWD with an Automatic Tranny! 😂 YMMV👍
Yeah my manual Supra is much better feeling. Toyota built that transmission and it's amazing! I don't hate the M2 manual. It's very forgiving and still fun. But certainly could be more direct. Both are some fun tho! I've heard some rumors about 2025 having AWD. Would basically be an M4 Comp lol
Between bmw and audi I would always choose bmw
why?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed because it feels more direct, more fun , is not a shared brand, it doesn’t understeer, different design throughout the whole lineup.
@@keanumunteanu the steering is definitely more direct. But the I5 is quicker off the line and in tighter roads. M2 has a lot going for it for sure tho
@@BrosFOURRSpeed yes it is, but still prefer how bmw drives. For me is the better car
M2 S58 > RS3 DAZA.
if you want more power, go for M2. The same DAZA set the record 3 years back and never get faster cause it hit limit at 1400bhp while S58 is new. Even B58 is better than DAZA.
I think if the I5 maxes out at 1,400 HP, that's pretty good. Very capable engine and has been proven. M2 with the S58 is a blast too and can certainly make power. B58 seems about on par with the I5. I own a Supra and like it a lot. I5 sounds super cool tho
Good luck getting an RS3 at MSRP. Dealerships are marking them up at least $20K.
I bought mine for MSRP, had to wait two years but you can buy them for MSRP.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed two years !? No thanks lol.
@@ricdynasty had an S3 in the meantime, just depends on what you want.
NO LIE! I called all the dealers in New England. They all wanted 10-20k over. Stupid
Depends on your area but some dealers are doing under MSRP now
test drove both and its the m2 and its not even close
m2 has 100 hp more (BMW are lying about the real hp numbers), rs3 feels front wheel drive, it rides higher, softer/less sporting steering, worse sounding engine surprisingly, its actually a bit more money base price, and no manual and most importantly the m2 is a lot more fun (and im a big RS guy. I daily an RS car).
Yeah the RS3 has some quirks. Once you do an exhaust and upgraded springs tho, it sounds amazing and starts to feel more responsive. But the M2 is great and I'll probably trade my Supra for one at some point lol
@@BrosFOURRSpeed agreed, a great car to mod for sure, just like the g8xs.
BMW M2 all day
Great car!
BMW fanboi
Bet everybody choose the m2
Seems pretty 50/50. Lots of people love both and pick based on if they need two doors or four doors and AWD or RWD
M2 better car in anything
It has a lot going for it. However the AWD and rear door allow for some extra usability for lots of buyers
Detailed review.
Thanks! Fun to finally compare these!
rs 3 looks like an innocent puppy next to the m2
Meh, with the RS3 being lowered and having teh front lip on it, I'd say it looks way meaner. M2 needs to be lower and have some things added to look as aggressive
@@BrosFOURRSpeed rs3 looks like a pedestrian car doesn't matter what you do with it. Nobody notices is it on streets. M2 gets way more attention
the bmw m340i beats both of them for the price.
Yeah but it's not as fun to drive. It's a step down in performance. Not the same ball game. Here's my comparison with the M340 and RS3. It's a better day driver, but not as good of a performance car. ua-cam.com/video/cYCrxjs7Ucs/v-deo.html
@@BrosFOURRSpeed i’m going to oook at the m package 2 door and m package 330i as well more affordable. and look good to.
M340i isn't a true performance car like these two , and it isn't even a real M car, so it's in a league below!!
Daza is king. Daza is life
Yeah that I5 is super cool! But the S58 is a great motor too!
M2 stomps. That’s not even close, the M2 is a different kind of beast.
Not at all lol. These two have very identical performance. RS3 is quicker overall tho with the AWD. M2 has a bit more top end. Very comparable and similar cars
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I wasn’t talking about performance but just my opinion which car I would prefer, my bad for not specifying this. Both great cars for sure, i prefer the M2 though.
The m2 being almost 4k Lbs is crazy the supra is such a better platform. Looks better. Similar power. 400 lbs lighter. And its a supra….😂
Yeah I did a comparison with my manual Supra and a manual M2. Supra is certainly the drivers cars of the two when compared back to back. ua-cam.com/video/lfriLa3ZijY/v-deo.html
M2 is faster and has actual luxury interior with way better tech.
@@G82Watts Supra is more fun and looks a hell of a lot better!
Currently torn between these two. For Chicago winter, RS3 seems like a more rational choice as my only car. But I have heard some 8Y RS3 owners are facing reliability issues already so that’s an ouch.
Yeah the AWD is great for that! Especially with s good set of performance all season tires. I havent heard anything bad about either car just yet. The M2 is probably a but easier to work on since the engine and transmission is more common in their brand. Regular servicing should keep the RS3 solid tho. Lots of owners rack up the miles in these
What reliability issues? I’m on all the groups and haven’t seen anything.
Drive my 8y hard every drive 5000km 14months old 30 passes on 1/8mile best 7.36@95mph. No problems yet❤
@@ryanb8736 yeah same. Both cars seem pretty solid
M2 is not attractive at all. The last model was more pleasing to the eye. That RS3 is a sweet ride.
exactly, the M2 is ugly
Certainly subjective. Both look cool to me
I don't see these 2 as competitors, m2 is 2 door and Audi is 4 door, if you need a 4 door a m2 shouldn't even be mentioned.
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Here’s my video of the M340 vs RS3. Same price and 4 doors.
As a performance car tho the M2 and RS3 are very similar in how they drive. Also like I mentioned in the video, I’ve had several comments of viewers wanting to see this video
The M2 is a better track weapon, yes (especially the 2025 with closer to 500 hp) but the RS3 is more unique and special and it's a great sleeper because people think it's a Corolla or something. Looking forward to the 2025 refresh which will fix the front grill, my biggest issue with the car (aside from being able to tune it). BMW will keep cranking out ugly, heavy M cars like cheeseburgers and honestly most of the owners are obnoxious
Yeah most people don't know the RS3 has a fast little motor! Both have a lot going for them for sure. It'll be interesting to see what a new M2 or RS3 looks like. I've heard things about both cars getting a refresh
BMW 6cyl over Audi 5cyl all day everyday. Bmw infoteinment is horrible on a car like this
Yeah the S58 is pretty wild! But the I5 is amazing. The new 2025 RS3 beat the M2 around the Nurburgring
I actually love the new m2. Once u see it in traffic amongst other cars it really stands out from the pact. Rs3 just looks like every other audi.
Yeah the M2 is pretty cool! RS3 definitely looks more part of the brand. But once lowered they start looking much more aggressive
@@BrosFOURRSpeedyea the are both great cars. People will hate on anything when companies change the interior or exterior. Very annoying.
@@G82Watts so true! I’ve stopped caring much about how cars look. They always end up looking cool. When the new M2 and RS3 come out. People will hate it and say they loved the old one. Happens every time
M2 is just meh by comparison honestly, that all digital dash just looks cheap like the new mustangs. RS3 all day, more practical awd and that 5 pot banger monster that can also be driven daily for commute in comfort just can’t be beat.
Yeah I'm more into the physical buttons and RS3 interior. But the M2 is a fun car and well worth it. Just depends on what people want out of the car
One of those cars is absolutely painful to look at… I don’t love front-biased AWD systems, but I simply couldn’t walk into my garage every day and confront the hideousness of the M2. It looks like it was built from Legos.
lol it's odd looking. But it's so fun to drive!
I’ll take a 4 door car over a 2 door m2
Yeah if you need 4 doors, it's a great option
M2 all day, rs3 is for the softies 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
IDK about that. RS3 is a lot faster. But M2 is some fun with the manual
Both great cars depending on priorities don't be so immature lol!!
RS3 is an amazing car. Nothing soft about it. It’s very unique.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed depends on what metric you are looking at when you say "RS3 is a lot faster". As a Audi/VW/BMW fan I love all of them, so no bias here... I just think depending on your use case one each one could be better for you. The RS3 absolutely faster from a dig when looking at 0-60 and 1/4 mile times but as speeds increase the M2 takes over. When you are talking rolls M2 leaves RS3 in the dust. Again I love both and living in Colorado I'd love to have both...RS3 as my daily (especially in winter) and the M2 for when I want to do get rowdy and do track days or hit the canyons. Full transparency...I'm a F87 M2 Comp owner but have owned many VW, Audi and BMWs BTW - great work on the review!
@@pushdaenvelope Yeah that’s why I mentioned the real comparison comes down to if a potential buyers wants AWD or Rwd. A manual. And 2 doors vs 4. Both very similar cars just depends on what buyers want. Especially comparing the manual M2 to the RS3. RS3 is much quicker zipping around town and in the back roads. I plan on buying an M2 in a year or so to replace my Supra. But love what the RS3 offers as well
Rs3 for groceries, m2 for track
RS3 is very capable on the track tho with great times
You can't really call either car beautiful. You have an econobox 4 door look with the RS3 but it is about performance, not looks. The M2 looks like molded concrete, a brutally ugly design with a tacked on display screen. It takes huge front tires on the M2 to hold that excessive weight in a curve. Because there is no aesthetic value in the M2 at all, I would give the win to the RS3 because aesthetics is still a component to me even though BMW and some others have given it up to save money on a their budgets.
Yeah each car is a bit odd in design. But both are really fun to drive and the looks might grow on you.
After owning a m2 for a year its definitely not pretty, but that's what i like about it, it's more like a musclar bulldog look to it, if i wants something pretty i would've bought a c8 corvette.
@@hpickettz34 Great point! I can totally see that. It’s so much fun to drive and makes serious power. I think it looks very bold and cool tho
Look is subjective. The M2 has lot of bold angular designs and wide stance. These design hues are either saturated or do not pick up well in picture and video. In person, I love the look of the car, as it is in your face bulldog look like @hpickettz34 mentioned, which constantly drawing my eyes’ attention to it. No complaint on the screen and IDrive8, it s not like BMW is the only one doing that, though I kind of wish they incorporated the screen on driver side into a digital speedometer like rs3.
RS3 all day over that monstrosity
RS3 is a beast! But the M2 is a blast 😅
A VW front wheel drive economy car. A BMW is a BMW.
@@Kenyon712 Go drive an RS3
@Kenyon712 Yeah, an economy car you say was able to set a record in its class around the ring in Germany, and beat an 85k BMW M2 CS by a lot around that same track lol!
rs3's design looks outdated. m2, though polarizing, looks like a 2024 car.
Both have seen a fare share of complaints. We are liking the RS3 much more now with the lower suspension
A mustang gt premium with track pack for 55k trumps these both!! Sorry
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In some ways sort of. But it doesn't handle as well as these and isn't as fast. Basic tuning on these cars can make 550 WHP to 700 WHP very easy. New GT is a lot of car for $10k less. But the German cars still have a leg up I think as a total package
Gt is too weak😂
The m2 smokes the dark horse
@@BrosFOURRSpeed with 10k ford will install a 3.0 whipple with a warranty making 790whp
Street speed 717 just did it how do you beat that for the money 65k 800 whp with a 3/36 warranty
The front and rear of the new M2 look hideous. For that reason I’m going RS3.
I've seen aftermarket grills and lips that really make it look good tho! A bit quirky looking for sure
I just can’t get over how ugly the M2 is and I’m a bmw guy.
Won't be for everyones taste for sure
Polarizing
I'd go for the RS3. Would only lease one tho. Every salesperson I have spoken with at Audi has told me you'll go bankrupt owning an RS car out of warranty 😂😂
Kind of silly if they actually like selling cars😂, and the RS3 and TTRS are both very reliable platforms that have a proven track record for well over a decade!! Every sales rep I've talked to says the opposite to me! These cars handle a lot of mods and power gains without an issue as well!
You' waste a ton of money leasing one. The new RS3 still goes for MSRP on the used market. Can buy one and drive it for a few years and sell it for what you paid. These are pretty easy to maintain as well
RS3
Fun car for sure!
The M2 is stilling getting broken in at 100 miles and youre ripping it up to 6000+ rpms
Can you please time stamp where I redlined this car past 6K? Not even close or true…
Both are a waste of money you could have any Corvette including the base C8 for that price. Like whats the point in paying more for less performance? bmw never won the 24hr lemans over the corvette despite competing for 20+ years. That should speak volumes as far as competitive performance goes. BMW and the RS audis actually can't even compete with the laptimes of the midpackage Camaro or Mustang on the Nurburgring which is actually both their home course. I love m3s and e30s and even owned one myself but were lying to ourselves if we're really trying to convince others that these cars are the best bang for your buck.
Not everyone wants a car derived from a racecar. These are both practical cars with space to put kids and extra items. Yes a new Corvette is a great sportscar for the money, and equally equipped costs closer to $85,000. Nobody wants a base C8. It's missing some key features that these cars will have like adaptive suspension, navigation, active exhaust and other features. I own a Lamborghini, so there wouldn't be a point to have another mid engine car. The RS3 is a great family sedan for us but it is also fun to drive and super fast. The M2 will end up replacing my Supra when I want a fun manual car with back seats.
Always the one troll that thinks he knows what's the best car for everyone, even know some people need a more useful performance car that is capable in all weather!! Get a clue!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed you say that "not everyone wants a race car" yet that would could contradict the purpose in why anyone watches this video. Lets face it, nobody means sound insulation and mpg when we're talking about spending 80k on a "performance car". a base z51 comes with all that you named actually and costed only 73k pre quarantine. you're also not addressing the fact that i said "any corvette" which includes previous generations like the C6-C7 z06 or ZR1 or even a 2018 ZL1 camaro/shelby for the same price all of which offer more performance and less depreciation for less money. My question still stands... whats the point in a bmw/audi in a conversation about performance and pricing? That's like comparing phiss to sh it in a flavor contest, its all bad 😂
@@speeddemonRS3 but that wasn't the point of the video now was it? All weather you say? Are you aware that a crappy rt challenger has more mechanical grip than awd crossover? Even more of a reason to save money and NOT buy a "luxury" brand for practical use. Buy American. I don't even like American cars I'm just speaking objectively.
@TvBoxHead keep trolling kiddo!🤡
One of those cars has too many doors.
Or just enough..
You only have half a brain to not understand how that could be beneficial depending on needs!!
Stage 2 RS3 will make M2 feeling really slow. Of course, you can do stage 2 for M2, but it will be borderline useless due to RWD.
Yeah you can definitely do a lot with the AWD platform!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Drifting ability is a must. It is very fun.
@@Trithij Yeah depends on people who do that. Personally I never really try and get the til out. I like grip lol
@@BrosFOURRSpeed You should try it. I drive a much slower BMW than your RS3, but it is fast enough for the city limits (with reasonable speeding over it). Drifting makes every turn/turnaround potentially fun. Just need to make sure no cops are around.
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I cannot see why anyone would want that M2. AWD + drift capabilities + small size + good engine sound = perfection.
What flaws? What did you find after driving one/owning one?
Sounds pretty cool to me!
No idea what you're talking about. I cannot see why anyone would buy the RS3 other than a little bit more "practicality". Also, "drift capabilities" 🤣 The M2 is made to drift, the RS3 tries to emulate it badly; front biased AWD is awful. The S58 is a monster of an engine, an engineering masterpeice; it sounds and performs so much better than the RS3 5 cyl.
@@rustygates3367M2 looks bad and sounds so so. S58 with RWD is borderline useless. In real life RS3 will be faster and massively faster in not perfect weather.
@@Trithij Funny you say that when a RWD M2 beats the AWD RS3 on the Nordschliefe. M2 rank 90, RS3 rank 101. The M2 is also faster on the 1/4 mile. Its obvious you don't know much about the M2 and how incredible it handles and feels to drive. Its much more fun than the rs3. All reviewers agree with that. Also, I think the M2 looks amazing, much better than the RS3 with its big plastic grille.
they ruined the m2 apperance
How?
@BrosFOURRSpeed Seriously I get you like it, and it grows on people after a while, which shouldn't be necessary, but the appearance is a letdown compared to such a beautiful design in the M2 comp to most people!! It's a polarizing design!
@@speeddemonRS3 The old one looked good too. It all BMW’s ended up looking the same over the years. Sometimes companies have to be bold to pace a new way. I’m sure when the next gen comes out. We’ll get people who say the old one was better. It happens on every car for every new generation
@BrosFOURRSpeed It doesn't happen for every car on every new generation! BMW is just on a roll in recent years because they have a new lead designer who has made many questionable decisions lol
@@speeddemonRS3 I mentioned in the video how both cars look a bit unique. Personally I’m just over caring that much about how a car looks. Because nearly every car, people hate it when it comes out. And then love it several years later. I see it in the UA-cam comments a lot. Been filming cars for 12 years. And it’s the same thing every time. I like the style of both cars tho. They look different and they stand out