I saw it with my best friend when we were 16 and it was the only rated R movie our parents brought us to. I've never seen a better action movie and never had a better time at the cinema since.
😂😂 so funny you avoided the cinema to avoid the trailers!! BRAVO, Very interesting video indeed!! Cameron pulled off a real coup by making it a very different film which totally respected the original, and somehow we knew that (must’ve been from reviews) and rushed out to see it in a full house , an awesome experience!! Don't agree with your point about Newt screaming though, there are HEAPS of parents out there who don't think to control their children screaming even in fast food restaurants, and the wind there on LV-426 was already extremely loud anyway, I doubt her scream even registered with her mother!!
Awesome Job. Finally a review of the crew manifest. Learned a lot of information that would have led to conclusions of this crew was expendable even before the Alien encounter. And Burke being cagey was in constant communication with Weyland Suits. Every move was orchestrated. So you see Burke react nervously when Ripley called 🤔. Remember Burke is responsible for every Colinists life. So in his greedy focus on Ripley and the Alien. Ba baically Aliens was a home movie and the company Brandywine thought James was building expensive sets. Once Cameron explained that most were miniature sets.The studio gave him more money 💰 🤑. Again Awesome 🙂 Ready for part 2
After watching your analysis and personal views on the original Alien I really enjoyed this latest instalment and can't wait for part 2. Jonesy a synth? I never saw that one coming! For that one possibility alone I'd rate this 10/10. Please keep up your excellent work.
@@RepresentThis What you said about 'Every piece of Cameron's dialogue means something.' Cameron was a serious and disciplined screenwriter. It was pounded into us over and over in film school that dialogue needs to always be character building and move the story forward, it is never idle.
ALIENS is my favorite film of all time and one of man's greatest achievements. My preferred version would be the director's cut sans the scenes on LV-426 before the outbreak. Good video.
Subscribed! Great Aliens videos, looking forward to watching the Alien vids. Good luck with the channel, I hope you get more subscribers, keep up the good work!
@@israelvaldez26 Yes, eventually. By the end of next year we will have covered all of the Sigourney Weaver Alien films. The AVP's and Ridley Scott prequels are on the slate, but some time after the Sigourney films as we plan on doing John Carpenters The Thing, Galaxy Quest, Basic Instinct and the first Planet of the Apes before we go onto the spin off Alien films.
I love hearing your personal life journey through this time.. your candidness is so amazing. It gives your work such depth and emotional justification for my own fear and coming of age around this movie. I feel like my own feelings were justified yet a feeling of nostalgia and great thankfulness for what I experienced. Great feelings, thank you for that!
You know yubacore, I thank you for that because whenever I saw any film whether good or bad there was a personal relation I had to them and I think for the majority of us we all have it. How we connect with films is how we view them, and I think often many critics who talk about them forget this and fall into formulaic judgements over what they see. It can sometimes create a lack of honesty or passion in some cases, which is one of the reasons I made this channel. I think a critic needs to acknowledge that and be honest enough to be aware of that. My hardest take with films is that it's easy for me to lose suspension of disbelief and since I've seen so many movies, I can tell bad acting and bad stories a mile away. Thus, I appreciate films like the one you comment on, and it is Represented on our channel. I'm currently at work on Jedi which also was an emotionally resonating film for me, and I hope to see more of your thoughts in the future there as well.
Another childhood story, so I mentioned in a previous comment how Alien also terrified me as a kid. Well Aliens, despite not being as horror oriented still scared me. The fact that there could be a hive of aliens was nightmare fuel. Also, it didn't help that whilst watching the movie in the dark I could make out this massive spider on the wall next to the TV. Which didn't help, actually I didn't see the full movie until months later because after they escaped the planet, I thought the movie was over and noticed the spider was gone. So I quickly hurried upstairs to my bedroom because I don't know where it moved to😂
@@RepresentThis Watched both parts and loved it. Despite watching multiple documentaries over the years, and many UA-cam videos, and possessing a pretty strong knowledge of the behind the scenes, you managed to provide new information and insights I've never encountered before. Great work. Watching your Galaxy Quest one next.
I always thought that Burke was looking back at the clocks on the wall. Also, it’s interesting to see that his home looks like a smaller home like Ripley, almost like it’s a gateway station apartment block.
lol I had so many nightmares of the first and second one which is why I now love them. I didn’t get why any other movies like Friday the 13th or Halloween were scary. But there was something about the first movie that lingered with me. Also i always tease my son that I joined the Marines just in case xenomorphs are real.
According to the novel 'Aliens river of pain', there were 4 survivors from LV426, not counting Newt. It is the story of Newt and her family up to the point she was discovered by the marines in Aliens.
I only just now noticed that "Solomons" is mentioned as a departure point for Captain Dallas in his bio. That's the transit terminal from Sevastopol Station in Alien: Isolation.
I appreciate that you have a different point of view. Mine is just different. We see what we see, and respecting another's point of view is one of our channel's desires.
I like to think that 'Jonesy' was put into a cryo-cattery, much like 'Einstein' was put into a cryo-kennel in Back To The Future 2. Ripley's comment meant he was staying on Earth in general, rather than staying in the apartment pod itself, to slowly die alone, which would be too cruel. Of course, there would come a time when his contract was up due to Ripley's non-return. In that case, I hope he was 'defrosted' and found a new family, to live out his life in normality (apart from cat nightmares of strange creatures attacking his cat carrier and humans being eviscerated!).
Yeah, I saw it last year. Some of my family still lives in Toledo and I check out the south end, Franklin Park and North end every few years. It sure looks different.
“…out past the Ilium range…” The crest of the ilium is the name for the protrusions of the pelvis above your hips- i.e. they sent the wildcatters down the planet’s stomach, past its pelvis, and right into its crotch. Words really do count!
It's funny how George Lucas had very few problems with the guys in British studios (apart from our quirk of having tea breaks). One wonders how much friction was caused by Cameron and his 'team', which he had on The Abyss also.
Lucas did have issues with his British camera man Gill Taylor. Lucas was used to operating his own camera, but Taylor would have none of that. Also the crew were under the impression that the film was a silly kids movie and treated it as such with such comments like 'put some more light on the dog (Chewbacca)'.
Excellent video, I love your stuff. I was 14 yrs old when this came out, read the GI Joe comics and had the toys too (I had the aircraft carrier baby - also Storm Shadow which was impossible to find). Iron Eagle man, wow - i remember renting the VHS.
Now why did you say you had the aircraft carrier, this makes me very jealous as I still have all the joes collected today with exception to the Terror Drome and the USS Flagg. :)
I only relayed what was reported from interviews and print. What I have seen of her in interviews and people involved in projects with her is that she is very abrasive and as you describe, so I do lean with your opinion but can't claim that as the overall reason, for documented accuracy's sake.
I have always been surprised by the amount of people that assume the derelict was carrying the eggs. It was not. The egg chamber is clearly below the derelict, and the space they are in is massive - much bigger than the derelict. In fact, this is part of the original treatment for Alien, where the egg chamber was below a pyramid structure - not used in the final treatment.
Yes, it is very sad but true considering she was a producer behind Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection, and she could have easily said, I'm not doing Alien 3 without Hicks and Newt. After that the franchise began its steady decline.
It's "fomenting". You ferment fruit to make wine, you foment a mutiny. Otherwise fine! 👍 Seriously, great job, particularly with respect to that hairy little sh!thead Jones :D There's so much interesting world-building in alternate drafts of the script.
Good God, that bit about Jones being a synth is absurd. I'm glad it was dropped. Besides, why couldn't he be revived? He seemed to do fine with the Nostromo's freezers. I know you've already gotten static for criticizing Newt's scream, so I'm not going to belabor the point, but it also doesn't make sense that the harpoon would still be stuck in the door of the Narcissus if you think about it. Some things are there just for callbacks or "ahteeestic" reasons. I still can't get past the premise of Aliens, with a colony that just happened to spring-up on the very same distant, in-the-boonies planetoid. Isolation's premise was far more credible (IMO). Don't get me wrong, it's a great film, but some of the story beats just don't land, like forcing a well-known Earthly hive/queen organizational structure onto the xenos (yeah, I'm one of "those" types). They're aliens, for Chrissakes. I also just cannot for the life of me figure-out Burke, as he acts like he's on a Boy Scout camping trip 99% of the time, even after the dropship is destroyed. It's only at the very end that he finally breaks a sweat. Instead of making Jones a synth, perhaps they should've done so for Burke.
@@RepresentThis I could wax endlessly about the Alien franchise, particularly since I was obsessed with the first film when it came out. And I do mean OBSESSED.
@@fredleggett923 That's good because we are currently writing our script for Alien Resurrection as I am giving you this comment. We are currently at 30 pages of notes and over 50 hours of research. So, hope to see your thoughts when we publish it.
@@RepresentThis I wish you all the best, as Resurrection is such a goofy entry. Wants to be dark and edgy, but comes off as high-grade Eurotrash (which it basically was). To this day, I don't know if I should love or hate it.
I saw it with my best friend when we were 16 and it was the only rated R movie our parents brought us to. I've never seen a better action movie and never had a better time at the cinema since.
Thank you for criticizing Newt’s screaming. ❤ I needed that
😂😂 so funny you avoided the cinema to avoid the trailers!! BRAVO, Very interesting video indeed!! Cameron pulled off a real coup by making it a very different film which totally respected the original, and somehow we knew that (must’ve been from reviews) and rushed out to see it in a full house , an awesome experience!! Don't agree with your point about Newt screaming though, there are HEAPS of parents out there who don't think to control their children screaming even in fast food restaurants, and the wind there on LV-426 was already extremely loud anyway, I doubt her scream even registered with her mother!!
I bet it was wonderful in a full house. Aliens is the only film in the franchise that I did not see in the theater.
Awesome Job. Finally a review of the crew manifest. Learned a lot of information that would have led to conclusions of this crew was expendable even before the Alien encounter. And Burke being cagey was in constant communication with Weyland Suits. Every move was orchestrated. So you see Burke react nervously when Ripley called 🤔. Remember Burke is responsible for every Colinists life. So in his greedy focus on Ripley and the Alien. Ba baically Aliens was a home movie and the company Brandywine thought James was building expensive sets. Once Cameron explained that most were miniature sets.The studio gave him more money 💰 🤑. Again Awesome 🙂
Ready for part 2
Glad you enjoyed it. There is more Burke loathsomeness to come.
You give some great analysis on this film not seen anywhere else in social media. You fit your own niche and are making great content - keep it up!
Thanks for your support.
Best alien content on earth
Thanks chopper! :)
After watching your analysis and personal views on the original Alien I really enjoyed this latest instalment and can't wait for part 2. Jonesy a synth? I never saw that one coming! For that one possibility alone I'd rate this 10/10. Please keep up your excellent work.
It's possible the little guy is if the early drafts hold water. Thanks for being here.
@@RepresentThis What you said about 'Every piece of Cameron's dialogue means something.' Cameron was a serious and disciplined screenwriter. It was pounded into us over and over in film school that dialogue needs to always be character building and move the story forward, it is never idle.
Ripley was a caring, responsible character. She had arranged a sitter for the cat.
ALIENS is my favorite film of all time and one of man's greatest achievements.
My preferred version would be the director's cut sans the scenes on LV-426 before the outbreak.
Good video.
Subscribed! Great Aliens videos, looking forward to watching the Alien vids. Good luck with the channel, I hope you get more subscribers, keep up the good work!
Appreciate that, look forward to seeing you in the future.
I am definitely looking forward to part 2!
Working on it now. I'll have it to you before Christmas.
@@RepresentThis I wanted to ask you if you are going to make videos on all the Alien movies?
@@israelvaldez26 Yes, eventually. By the end of next year we will have covered all of the Sigourney Weaver Alien films. The AVP's and Ridley Scott prequels are on the slate, but some time after the Sigourney films as we plan on doing John Carpenters The Thing, Galaxy Quest, Basic Instinct and the first Planet of the Apes before we go onto the spin off Alien films.
I love hearing your personal life journey through this time.. your candidness is so amazing. It gives your work such depth and emotional justification for my own fear and coming of age around this movie. I feel like my own feelings were justified yet a feeling of nostalgia and great thankfulness for what I experienced. Great feelings, thank you for that!
You know yubacore, I thank you for that because whenever I saw any film whether good or bad there was a personal relation I had to them and I think for the majority of us we all have it. How we connect with films is how we view them, and I think often many critics who talk about them forget this and fall into formulaic judgements over what they see. It can sometimes create a lack of honesty or passion in some cases, which is one of the reasons I made this channel. I think a critic needs to acknowledge that and be honest enough to be aware of that. My hardest take with films is that it's easy for me to lose suspension of disbelief and since I've seen so many movies, I can tell bad acting and bad stories a mile away. Thus, I appreciate films like the one you comment on, and it is Represented on our channel. I'm currently at work on Jedi which also was an emotionally resonating film for me, and I hope to see more of your thoughts in the future there as well.
@@RepresentThis ❤️ 100%
Another childhood story, so I mentioned in a previous comment how Alien also terrified me as a kid. Well Aliens, despite not being as horror oriented still scared me. The fact that there could be a hive of aliens was nightmare fuel. Also, it didn't help that whilst watching the movie in the dark I could make out this massive spider on the wall next to the TV. Which didn't help, actually I didn't see the full movie until months later because after they escaped the planet, I thought the movie was over and noticed the spider was gone. So I quickly hurried upstairs to my bedroom because I don't know where it moved to😂
Good content. Good pace. I subbed.
So glad to have you, we will keep bringing out videos for ya. Working on Aliens part 2 right now.
I'll be enjoying this tonight!
Let me know your thoughts after you check it out.
@@RepresentThis Watched both parts and loved it. Despite watching multiple documentaries over the years, and many UA-cam videos, and possessing a pretty strong knowledge of the behind the scenes, you managed to provide new information and insights I've never encountered before. Great work. Watching your Galaxy Quest one next.
@@Mal_Freeman0451 Aliens part 3 should be up next weekend, and galaxy quest 2 will follow it about a week later.
@@RepresentThis Looking forward to both!
thanks for the upload. very informative!!
@30:50 I think Burke is more so looking at the clocks on the wall behind him to determine the time for such a light night call.
It's quite possible your interpretation is right and I'm off on this one.
I always thought that Burke was looking back at the clocks on the wall.
Also, it’s interesting to see that his home looks like a smaller home like Ripley, almost like it’s a gateway station apartment block.
lol I had so many nightmares of the first and second one which is why I now love them. I didn’t get why any other movies like Friday the 13th or Halloween were scary. But there was something about the first movie that lingered with me. Also i always tease my son that I joined the Marines just in case xenomorphs are real.
I like how Cameron enveloped the Alien world into his Terminator world.
According to the novel 'Aliens river of pain', there were 4 survivors from LV426, not counting Newt. It is the story of Newt and her family up to the point she was discovered by the marines in Aliens.
damn... Sigourney Weaver was a FREAK
I still can't get over how good the queen looks. It really was the golden age when Stan Winston was around.
I enjoyed this very much
Thanks much, glad you're here to share it with.
I only just now noticed that "Solomons" is mentioned as a departure point for Captain Dallas in his bio. That's the transit terminal from Sevastopol Station in Alien: Isolation.
Burke looks back at the clock, as she rings early in the morning. Don't overthink it
I appreciate that you have a different point of view. Mine is just different. We see what we see, and respecting another's point of view is one of our channel's desires.
I like to think that 'Jonesy' was put into a cryo-cattery, much like 'Einstein' was put into a cryo-kennel in Back To The Future 2. Ripley's comment meant he was staying on Earth in general, rather than staying in the apartment pod itself, to slowly die alone, which would be too cruel. Of course, there would come a time when his contract was up due to Ripley's non-return. In that case, I hope he was 'defrosted' and found a new family, to live out his life in normality (apart from cat nightmares of strange creatures attacking his cat carrier and humans being eviscerated!).
You are probably correct in your assessment here.
Southwyck is now an Amazon facility.
Yeah, I saw it last year. Some of my family still lives in Toledo and I check out the south end, Franklin Park and North end every few years. It sure looks different.
She didn't meet Burk before. He gets flustered when he finds out nobody told her how long she had been floating in space.
“…out past the Ilium range…”
The crest of the ilium is the name for the protrusions of the pelvis above your hips- i.e. they sent the wildcatters down the planet’s stomach, past its pelvis, and right into its crotch.
Words really do count!
Perfect 35mm. Brilliant insight!
We need an Isolation retrospective/introspection/disassembly.
🙏🏼
It's funny how George Lucas had very few problems with the guys in British studios (apart from our quirk of having tea breaks). One wonders how much friction was caused by Cameron and his 'team', which he had on The Abyss also.
Lucas did have issues with his British camera man Gill Taylor.
Lucas was used to operating his own camera, but Taylor would have none of that.
Also the crew were under the impression that the film was a silly kids movie and treated it as such with such comments like 'put some more light on the dog (Chewbacca)'.
8 seconds in and that damn motion tracker sound already has me antsy…
Yo! during the call burke is looking at the time on the clock(s) on the wall behind him
Excellent video, I love your stuff. I was 14 yrs old when this came out, read the GI Joe comics and had the toys too (I had the aircraft carrier baby - also Storm Shadow which was impossible to find). Iron Eagle man, wow - i remember renting the VHS.
Now why did you say you had the aircraft carrier, this makes me very jealous as I still have all the joes collected today with exception to the Terror Drome and the USS Flagg. :)
@@RepresentThis Maybe I shouldn't mention I had the Terror Drome too...wish I still had them. I had a TON of Star Wars stuff too!
@@pdog547 Always wanted that Terror Drome. Cobra!!!
The clashes with Gail were not about her gender but behaving arrogant and toxic.
I only relayed what was reported from interviews and print. What I have seen of her in interviews and people involved in projects with her is that she is very abrasive and as you describe, so I do lean with your opinion but can't claim that as the overall reason, for documented accuracy's sake.
7:48 “The next thing he said was alright, bring in the arteest.” This comment from Henriksen I never understood. How is artist a wise guy term?
I am sure it was the way it was said, rather than what he said, but I'm guessing.
The version I watch on Prime they cut out the story of Ripley’s daughter. And I always thought that existed I’m not crazy
I'm wondering how the company can hide the fact that Ash was a synthetic and then take an authoritarian stance toward Ripley.
It’s a corporation and that’s what they do.
@@newsbender Right, that's what I was attempting to point out. How the employees are the property and lab rats of the company.
Not 2003 directors cut. It was 1991.
I have always been surprised by the amount of people that assume the derelict was carrying the eggs. It was not. The egg chamber is clearly below the derelict, and the space they are in is massive - much bigger than the derelict. In fact, this is part of the original treatment for Alien, where the egg chamber was below a pyramid structure - not used in the final treatment.
Sad to know that weaver doesn’t get the appeal of her own franchise and her ideas helped ruin it
Yes, it is very sad but true considering she was a producer behind Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection, and she could have easily said, I'm not doing Alien 3 without Hicks and Newt. After that the franchise began its steady decline.
It's "fomenting". You ferment fruit to make wine, you foment a mutiny. Otherwise fine! 👍
Seriously, great job, particularly with respect to that hairy little sh!thead Jones :D
There's so much interesting world-building in alternate drafts of the script.
I bet Hurd and Cameron were shits to work with.
Good God, that bit about Jones being a synth is absurd. I'm glad it was dropped. Besides, why couldn't he be revived? He seemed to do fine with the Nostromo's freezers.
I know you've already gotten static for criticizing Newt's scream, so I'm not going to belabor the point, but it also doesn't make sense that the harpoon would still be stuck in the door of the Narcissus if you think about it. Some things are there just for callbacks or "ahteeestic" reasons.
I still can't get past the premise of Aliens, with a colony that just happened to spring-up on the very same distant, in-the-boonies planetoid. Isolation's premise was far more credible (IMO). Don't get me wrong, it's a great film, but some of the story beats just don't land, like forcing a well-known Earthly hive/queen organizational structure onto the xenos (yeah, I'm one of "those" types). They're aliens, for Chrissakes.
I also just cannot for the life of me figure-out Burke, as he acts like he's on a Boy Scout camping trip 99% of the time, even after the dropship is destroyed. It's only at the very end that he finally breaks a sweat. Instead of making Jones a synth, perhaps they should've done so for Burke.
Really appreciate your fair insights Fred, thanks.
@@RepresentThis I could wax endlessly about the Alien franchise, particularly since I was obsessed with the first film when it came out. And I do mean OBSESSED.
@@fredleggett923 That's good because we are currently writing our script for Alien Resurrection as I am giving you this comment. We are currently at 30 pages of notes and over 50 hours of research. So, hope to see your thoughts when we publish it.
@@RepresentThis I wish you all the best, as Resurrection is such a goofy entry. Wants to be dark and edgy, but comes off as high-grade Eurotrash (which it basically was). To this day, I don't know if I should love or hate it.
Weaver sounds like a bit of a fetishist.
Anatomically Synthetic Human