WTF HAPPENED TO ALIEN?
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From the great mind of Ridley Scott, and with incredible acting from Sigourney Weaver, the Alien franchise started off with a lot of promise. In Paul's opinion, the sequel Aliens directed by James Cameron was even better! But with Alien 3, Alien: Resurrection, Alien vs. Predator, Prometheus, and Alien: Covenant, the movies just didn't have the same magic. Join Paul's Ego as he dissects what went great and what went wrong in this iconic horror / science fiction series of films. What's the worst Alien movie? Find out in this thorough retrospective.
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One small correction.
The Xenomorph effects in Alien3 were mostly not CGI. They were divided between a full body suit and a one third scale rod puppet. The puppet was filmed in a separate studio to the rest of the film against a blue screen and composited in. One of the many reasons it looks so shitty is because the lighting in the studio where the Xenomorph scenes were filmed was completely different than the other sets and so had to be adjusted. On top of that the rod puppet had to be re-scaled, composited in and the rods rotoscoped out.
They probably would have been better off using CGI. Considering the final result.
The shit thing is, that is a very interesting approach to doing stuff like that that really could have worked, offering physicality of stop motion but fluid motion of puppetry. Unfortunately the huge problems in execution make it stick out like a sore thumb.
I don't get why they just didn't do all or mostly practical effects like in the second movie. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
@@JLDReactions I'd say it's probably because the dog-alien would be difficult to pull off with people in a suit.
@mark uk1990 people hate alien 3..there is no payoff for reworking the bad cgi
@@JLDReactions notice how aliens special effects still holds up in 2022.. practical works
To clarify this persistent misunderstanding that first began as a line of dialogue in Aliens, Ash on the Nostromo WAS NOT DAMAGED. He was perfectly functional, and operating clandestinely under company orders.
Huh. I actually didn’t know that.
Ash was programmed by the company to bring back an alien by any means necessary, including killing the rest of the crew if "he" felt it was necessary. He did. Bishop was just going by Company propaganda and discussions with other synthetics and people in general supposing what went down without the true history of the original incident being known to Earth's general populace.
Same as HAL in 2001 A Space Odyssey.
@@chickenbloodmachine In the book, Clarke states specifically that the onboard computer harms the crew because it misinterprets one of its own programmed directives… kind of like in the famous Paper Clip Maximizer thought experiment. But Kubrick’s movie differs creatively from the book in numerous ways, including with the decision to leave HAL’s intentions ambiguous. The audience is never told outright if HAL malfunctioned, or if he’s following code. HAL says to Dave in one scene “I cannot allow you to jeopardize the mission.” Which would seem to support the idea that he’s properly executing a secret directive. However, he also famously reveals to Dave that he is afraid. Whether HAL actually acquired sentience through a malfunction or if HAL was simply saying this in an attempt to guilt Dave into acquiescing so that he could retake control of the ship… we will never know
It's good having you back, Paul. Alien and Aliens are the gold standard when it comes to Sci-fi horror.
Yeah I love OP's take on the deep dive style of film analysis. The good deep dives" are almost like reliving the movie all over again, which everybody loves to do, and must be why I've watched maybe 20 deep dives of this... I find out something I didn't know before on just about every one.
Alien + Aliens = absolute masterpiece. No pointless CGI no lazy script no stupid plot hole just pure entertainment n" thrilling stuff 🚀
I totally agree. Most films focus on one area. Alien mastered horror. Aliens mastered suspenseful action. Predators cool but the movies are incomparable
Disagree.
Predator 2 is only good sequel in the series.
Aliens ruined the franchise.
@@oddmanout7755 Alien still bores me to tears. Not rewatchable.
Aliens made the franchise.
It was so enjoyable while going over the first 3 films of the franchise. Then I was reminded of the fact that life is misery and everything we love is doomed to burn in the fires of corporate produced garbage.
Be careful there brave traveller, your views expose a level of independent thinking that must be illegal in many sectors ; )
So pretty-much the same paradigm as that which is currently and ultmately affecting the biosphere of the planet they call Earth...
What goes up must come down, it's okay
Yep. Alien. Dead. Star Wars. Dead. Star Trek. Dead. Rip.
But then Dune came along. And in my books it's everything these franchises aren't anymore.
@@MPeaches1958 Yep... forgot about these two. 😳
I love Aliens vs Predators, likely because I watched it religiously as a child. But even still, despite seeing its glaring flaws, it's a movie I emphatically enjoy and it was my introduction to both respective franchises.
What I love most in AVP 1
>How they handled the lore between the Predator and Xenomorph
What I love most about AVP 2
>Wolf.... just Wolf
AVP was a great movie. Clean number 3 in the series, after Aliens and Alien. The rest were awful. I remember Alien 3 really upset me when I watched it, it made no sense after Aliens, which is my favourite movie.
@@blob643 this
@@blob643 Idk about anyone else but I actually genuinely liked the design of the xenomorphs and the predalien in the sequel. That's about all I can give the movie credit for. That aside, nothing else about that film is defendable.
@@blob643 I actually enjoy AvP 2 a lot because it has corny slasher energy
Don't forget about Alien Isolation. Yes, it's a game, but a) it's excellent, 100% captures the first movie's essence perfectly and b) is canon, tells the story of what Amanda Ripley, Ellen Ripley's daughter went through trying to find her missing mother between Alien and Aliens. Must-play for any Alien fan.
Great game. I don't accept it as canon though. I don't buy that Ripley jr had any encounter with the alien. I believe she lived her entire life on Earth without her mother and died there. Just from the comments made about her from Burke tells me this that she died only few years prior to Ripley sr showing back up.
I played through Isolation in VR via mother VR. It was AMAZING. Highly recommend.
@@LUCKO2022 i consider it canon. and even if you don't at least the game did it in a believable way and it capture the authenticity of the first movie.
@erik newton
The game is great. I don't consider it Canon though as it does break the first movie. The first movie very specifically spells out that the company knew about the derelict and it's contents. The Nostromo was rerouted from Thedus to make sure they picked up that beacon. So they know the coordinates as well. So the fact that they would wait so long after the Nostormo failed to return breaks the first film or shows the company really is stupid.
That is my problem with everything after the original Alien film. Don't get me started on the "prequels" either.
@erik newton
As for the game. I love it. I just accept it as it's own thing. I have it on PS3, PS4 and I got it free on my PC through a epic games store give away as well. I just want to get it again on Steam when the next Steam sale hits as I don't run Windows on my PC anymore and want to get the native Linux version.
*WTF HAPPENED TO CINEMAFORCYNICS?*
I fired TJ.
Fun fact: the Xenomorph in Alien³ is often cited as an example of bad early 90's CGI but it's actually a practical miniature puppet filmed on a bluescreen then added in afterwards, so it's not bad CGI it's just a very odd practical effect. They did use a CGI Xeno for a single shot in the theatrical cut, and also for a chest bursting scene in the special edition version.
yeah i was gon say, doesn't look like cgi to me
Funny, I thought it looked just fine, had no problem with the effects. I did read about it in Cinefex at the time, and I liked the puppet approach they used.
So like a quasi cgi?
@@mannysong1752 no. CGI would be if the alien model itself was created with computer software
@@vhscopyofseinfeld so it was stop motion?
Finally, the long awaited "WTF happened to Alien" video! Hopefully this means a revival of the channel.
Finally someone who appreciates Alien as much as I do. Alien and The Thing are the best and were ahead of their time.
Never a truer statement said. So many layers that just work together that create a masterpiece
Jerry Goldsmith wrote the music for Alien. The closing credits use the Romantic Symphony by Howard Hanson. James Horner did Aliens.
The best part of Alien Resurrection was finding out that Weyland-Yutani became so insolvent that they were bought out by fucking Wal-Mart
That lets me know that it really was a joke script made into a movie, because that sounds like someone making a dumb joke to get a laugh.
@@crimsondynamo615 I mean. The movie was a joke. soooo
Well.. Walmart is literally the worlds most successful company making a profit of over 500 billion dollars a year so if anybody was going to buy them it would make sense it was the Walton family
The best part was Ron Pearlman and the guy with the wheelchair
Very well done. The first two films: Alien and Aliens are untouchable imo. After that it’s diminishing returns. I didn’t even bother with Covenant. I was a teenager in 1979 and seeing Alien in the theater on its release was amazing. Still remember it.
Covenant has its faults but it’s still a decent action film. Same with Prometheus. I mean, both are visually appealing. All you gotta do is ignore the horrible writing lol
I saw Alien in the theater in 79. Had my feet up off the floor through most of the movie. And watched at least 5 people go running out of the theater during the chest-bursting scene. Good times!
you guys choose nostalgia over story/ lore expansion its dmb and a curse for old generations that hate change. I have watched alien series since a kid to see the story coming full circle is amazing.. most of you are fake fans that dont know the lore and have read 0 alien comics
I was born on the day it was released. May 25th 1979 so it holds a special place for me. I love the movie. Still holds up. Best of them all IMO.
@@aetherstarborn168 "lore expansion"
that's where things start sucking generally
"Alien" is a cinematographic picture.
Alien 3 was my first alien movie. I was 10 years old when my parents were gone for the evening and i knew i could watch tv for as long as i wanted...and then Alien 3 came on...I loved it and it still holds a dear place in my heart ;)
My mom single mom worked in a tire factory when I was growing up. I find it relatable you found parallels with your own mother and this character.
The great directors of the '70s & early '80s all have the same problem: The more resources they're given, the more their work sucks. Scott, Cameron, Spielberg (mostly), Scorsese, Lucas (lol) ... give them $20- to 30-million dollars, and you WILL have a great movie. Every dollar after that has diminishing returns, and somewhere around the $100-million area, they get so obsessed with making something pretty that they can't be bothered to make something interesting.
You forgot George Romero.
Damn. I never thought about this. It's mostly true for the directors you mentioned. Though I'd argue it's less "more resources" and more just they're allowed to do whatever the fuck they want with little to no interference, or anyone standing by saying "um, maybe that's not a good idea and here's why". Instead, because of their prestige, everyone around them things they can do no wrong and never questions them. Just look at all that behind the scene footage of George Lucas making the prequel trilogy films. A buncha yes-men encircling him at all times.
Constraints inspire creativity and focus on what the spirit of the film is.
Paralysis of choice happens when they get these huge budgets and more decision makers involved.
@@ColumbiaBeet
And now with the power of hindsight, the prequels are masterpieces.
Thanks for sucking worse somehow, Disney Star Wars.
i think the original Alien has the best trailer that i have ever seen
it gives you the exact idea of what kind of a movie it is, through atmosphere, without spoiling anything
You are, hands down, the best movie reviewer on UA-cam. I wish you had a million subs. Further more, I wish you posted more than every 6 months.
So glad you're back with these on youtube. Can't wait to see more.
Jerry Goldsmith did the music for the first film. Aliens was done by James Horner who seems to have re-worked his score for Wrath of Kahn.
Pretty strange error for someone whose favourite film of all time is Aliens.
James Horner ✨💕
James Horner re-worked the music for Aliens, from a film by the name of Wolfen that he originally scored.
@@fkingshame7537 and from Battle Beyond the Stars
Truth. Also the score snippet highlighted here from the first film is not actually by Goldsmith (it’s a temp track from a symphony by Howard Hanson that got subbed in place of the written end title music).
Charles S. Dutton as Dillon saves Alien 3 for me. I absolutely love his character in that film. He is a criminally underrated actor and it always makes me sad that Alien 3 was received so poorly because he's nothing but great in that film.
Your right, but the movie had some really big shoes to fill. On it's own Alien 3 was pretty good.
Alien 3 also had a frikkin great musical score. There is a lot to like in that movie.
When I saw it like 12 the guy made me cry at the final speech with the rest cellmates, somehow today he is half convincing.
And Charles Dance plays Clemens. It's a double dose of top tier Charleses in that movie.
Alien is one of my favorite series of all time and I believe in it’s potential too, it’s just such a shame that time and time again the franchise is given to mediocre writers and movie directors who doesn’t care for the fans. Well at least we got alien isolation as a consolation prize
The musical score for Aliens was composed by James Horner not Goldsmith... or maybe I heard it wrong? In any case I agree with everything about Alien & Aliens... the latter is my fave movie too 🙂
i was on the same boat too but then watched alien 3 extended or what ever that was. totally reversed my view.
was just rewatching some of these cinemaforcynics a few months ago, they were such great breakdowns, well thought out and great production value.. so glad you guys are making more! chauncy better make a fucking return
Can't wait to see him destroy Alien: Covenant. That movie pissed me off like no other.
“I wanted Aliens motherfucker!!!”
He did. It was fantastic.
Oh, I hate that movie. One of the most stupid crews I've ever seen.
I have a knack for going into movies expecting them to be ass. Im seldom disappointed anymore...with that said, I liked Covenant despite it shitting all over the original timeline.
Imo the series is only the first 2 films and Alien Isolation. I can give 3 a pass. I'll accept about half of Prometheus as canon too. Yes im an olympic mental gymnast with the franchise..
@@restricttheopennotes absolutely despise the CGI xenos
thank you for pointing out how fucking stupid it is for the team's geologist to lose their way while trying to get back to their own ship... using maping drones....
Hey, good to see you back. I really do love your reviews and seeing you pop up on more recommendations on youtube was a welcome surprise!
Great video, Paul! I just have one question for you:
WTF happened to Terminator?
Maybe!
and Predator
Good question
Marvel
Cause Arnold didnt pass fast enough to he tarnished
One minor correction. Jerry Goldsmith did the music for Alien. James Horner composed Aliens. Spectacular review.
Glad someone else noticed
But, two of Goldsmith’s tracks do appear in ALIENS.
Indeed. If my memory is correct:
1 - when the Queen is chasing Ripley to the lift is the same as when she is trying to escape Nostromo, and leaves Jones in his carrier face to face with the Xenomorph?
2 - when Ripley exits the lift and realises Bishop has abandoned them is the same as the music playing during Lambert and Parker's deaths?
@@Wingedtravesty Bingo
Was so excited when they released the bonus footage for Aliens… 21 minutes of added scenes was fantastic, and helped lay out that story even further
BRING BACK C FOR C !
What happened to the Alien Franchise? Movie studio execs sat down together and banged out story ideas en masse. They then dropped ALL of those ideas into a word blender and hit "frappe."
I have been waiting for years for a new review. I was far from dissatisfied, thanks Paul. I hope this means I can expect monthly uploads.
The thing that has always kind of bummed be out is that the Xenomorph went from this almost mythical perfected unkillable predator, only one of which is too much to handle in Alien... to basically cannon fodder that are being mowed down in droves by the marines in Aliens. I've always found that a very weird change of character between those two films.
Don't forget they had no weapons in Alien.
In alien they are just miners with no weapons. In aliens they are space marines tooled up to the balls on a rescue mission...
Introducing the alien queen that lays eggs and using the colonists to cocoon them and breed more aliens was the scariest shit ever. They're not cannon fodder, they're like the Zerg that come in waves. They reproduce so quickly and mature to this deadly predator in merely a day that if they would ever land on earth we would be fucked. That's what Ripley keeps pointing out. Using these badass turrets and marines and still get overrun was a brilliant change from the first movie
As far as the expanded lore explained, when in lower numbers, the xenomorphs tend to become more reserved and sneaky in order to outwit and ambush their targets. When a queen is present however, they essentially become much more violent and territorial. And when they have larger numbers, caution is thrown to the wind so they can just swarm and overwhelm. Depends on the context of the situation.
(and I'm not suggesting that third party information makes up for a lack of information in the movies, so take this however you wish)
That's the difference between Ridly Scott & Cameron, Ridly Scott is a far better director, (in my opinion).
The atmosphere in the first two Alien movies was absolutely phenomenal!
One of the many elements I love about Alien is that they do not make it clear who the main character is as all the characters are reflected as ordinary workers that just wanna survive.
Because, usually if you know who the main character is, you know that the person has Plot armor and will therefore have an higher change to survive..
This is due Scott's vision about the movie: Prior Alien nearly all of the movies had a strong white guy as a main character, so everyone assumed Captain was the main character as he is quite obvious choice in 70's cinema. His death acted as a double shock, first, well, characters jump scare death, secondly audience was shocked that "What? they killed the main character" until realizing it was Ripley all along.
Thank you for your sacrifices in all the rewatches. Loved your opinions. Hilarious video and fair review!
The "big dingy space freighter" look was pioneered in Silent Running in 1972.
43 minutes? Feels a lot shorter when you agree with everything.
Long have we waited! Such a joy to see a new video on this channel.
Great episode so far.
Happy to see you back in the cinema, Paul.
This is the most accurate review I have ever seen. I completely agree with absolutely everything in this review (except I have the first Alien ahead of Aliens). No one has reviewed this better. I will now send it to someone I know, who I wanted to punch in the face (jk) when he said Covenant was so cool and answered so many questions.
Alien Aliens are two of the scariest films ever made. 10/10 for scare. Watching these far too young, thinking no problem was a mistake Lol. It's the terror, fear, tension, that makes it pure horror and the Aliens are frightening. Both are masterpieces well ahead of its time.
Uhhh, The late great James Horner scored this masterpiece....Lol! Guess you can't know everything about your favorite movie. ;)
NO FUCKING WAY!! This is the best news ever!!!
One of my favorite lines of all time is in this movie. “What are we supposed use, harsh language?”.
About freaking time we got another vid on this great channel.
The hellraiser videos are one of my favorites to watch
"Angel to some demon to others."
@12:48 I know they re-used one of his scores in the elevator scene in Aliens, but wasn't James Horner who did the majority of the tracks of the sequel? I agree with you though the music for ALIENS is just bombastic and thrilling. Personal faves would be Futile Escape, Ripley's Rescue, Going After Newt and Bishop's Countdown.
Yep. Was about to comment the same. James Horner was on limited time too and knocked it out of the park.
This review achieved the heights of 1986 Aliens. No exageration. This was spot on. Every minute.
I loved hearing you talk with such love and admiration for your mum. I bet she's proud ❤
Guys, I'm so glad to hear from you again. Needed you...deeply. 😆
Also, I THINK the cloning of Ellen in "Resurrection" had the alien included because of the DNA mods an embryo causes as it confuses the host into not attacking it as a foreign body. They didn't crossbreed the Ellen clone with an alien, the cloning itself included the embryonic queen... i think. 😀
i call buuuuuuuuulllllshit !!
@@voidwalker7774 Watch it again. The evil "doctors" allude to it more than once, and other Alien canon explains how it genetically modifies DNA in all area, like cancer as it stays protected from the body's defenses... no matter what species of host.
The story is that they used her blood samples from the med center on the prison planet. She was at that time impregnated with a queen chestburster. Apparently the chestburster also changes her dna (not sure how that was supposed to work, perhaps it's a previously undiscussed way for it to keep the human body from rejecting it until it was developed...they also never discussed how the eggs got on her ship to begin with when the queen ripped out her reproductive organs before the final fight in the second movie, so it's all just guesswork). They were trying to isolate the queen dna to clone it.. ripley clones were just multiple failed attempts at that. They never managed to clone them both separately.. although they appeared normal both still contained the others dna, thus ripleys alien characteristics and the birth of the newborn who rejected the queen and decided ripley was it's mother.
@@waymire01 NOT sure if you agree or not. The idea is that the queen brought up an egg (or more) on the ship. But there is no film vidence of that. If we just accept that an egg was on the Sulaco AND that Ripley's DNA was collected AFTER the impregnation, then the story works... if not, then it doesn't. 😀
@@the-trustees Exactly. There had to be at least two because one got her and the other got the dog. They die after so it couldn't have been the same one. Apparently the film was being shot without a finished script and was reedited by the studio.. and things were left out in the end. There is another cut, what would be a directors cut except the director refused to participate, that has multiple changes. There were multiple scripts, 3 and 4 were supposed to be shot together at one point, Ripley wasn't even going to be in the movie to begin with....they took a bunch of ideas from several of them and mashed them together into what we got on screen. Some of the concepts from these scripts were used in Alien 4, and some were even used in the last two films including an alien spore that is contagious through inhalation and infects everything it comes in contact with.
Oh man, that was excellent. What a rant that was. Subscribed!
I stayed subbed all these years just knowing the Paulster would make a comeback.
Enjoyed the video immensely. "Aliens" also checks in towards the top of my all-time favorite films, at #3 behind only #2 Ghostbusters and #1 The Matrix. Cheers.
this is the first video i saw on your channel, glad you are back i had a good time
Good retrospective. A couple of corrections:
1. FYI, when you highlight the musical score to the original 'Alien,' the specific clip you use (when the creatures is blown into space) actually features pre-recorded music: Howard Hansen's Romantic Symphony #2, which is also used over the end credits of the movie. The rest of the (amazing) original score was by Jerry Goldsmith.
2. Goldsmith did not score 'Aliens.' James Horner did.
Errr James Horner did the score for Aliens. Would’ve thought one would’ve known that about their fav film ever. Otherwise excellent review and agree with everything you have said 👍
36 years now since I first saw Aliens, and I still remember how the whole cinema audience burst into cheers and applause when the movie ended. Spinetinglingly good! Can you imagine what a further Cameron made sequel would have been like!
Could not agree more with literally everything said in this video. 10 outta 10. Please do more content like this. As a massive fan of the Alien franchise it was refreshing to hear someone put my thoughts to words.
Alien³ was my 1st Alien movie viewing at a Cinema... It's got a special place in me ♥
I’m so happy you guys were finally able to get this edited, I can’t wait for more.
Paul’s voice is so confident and commanding in these reviews, they’re in-depth beyond most other movie review channels. I hope he’s able to make a studio and capture video like in his original reviews.
Me and Paul have very similar tastes in movies, maybe it’s because we both are diagnosed with a depressive disorder and have estranged fathers, lol.
The only other channel that is on this level is Red Letter Media, and that’s a huge accomplishment in my eyes.
Good on you Paul, and good luck on the future reviews! I know you won’t need my well wishes.
Honestly, there hasn't been any other perfect female character since Ripley. She is so multi-layered: strong, determined, no bullshit, cheeky, but at times also vulnerable. Such a shame what happened to her character in Alien Resurrection.
Kim Wexler
How about The bride from kill bill v1-v2?
Selene, from Returnal, gives off these very vibes. Also, most likely largely based on Ripley.
I love Ripley from Resurrection, the movie was just such a dumpster fire that they wasted the opportunity to further characterize the Alien species. The best part of the early Alien franchise, to me, is the fact that humanity is the villain.
They could have leaned on the horrors committed by the researchers with Ripley experiencing it all, and eventually coming to the conclusion that humanity is the truer monster.
Kuzco
Great video, subscribed. 😁 👍🏻
what i love about the first Alien movie is not even the cast knew how the alien would look during the chest bursting scene, everyone's real first look and reaction.
One of my earliest memories (I was 3 1/2 years old at the time) was my dad coming home from the movie theater with his friends after he saw Alien. He was blown away, and said how good of a movie it was. I didn't get to see it until I was probably 7 or 8, and it was scary but slow for a kid to watch. That being said, it is even now one of my favorite movies of all time.
yes it became slow sometime in the 1990 or some years ealier same with Shining and Jaws - must be those action movies made back then but todays action movies are a travesty to those epic old ones
Finally someone that agrees it’s the best film ever! Dominated my childhood
Same. I genuinely can't think of a movie I would rank higher.
Absolutely fantastic to see this channel has returned 🙏
Awesome piece, very well articulated. Small correction; you ascribed the Aliens soundtrack to Jerry Goldsmith, it was actually written by James Horner. The score was so good that director John McTiernan recycled an unused version of the cue 'Bishop's Countdown' as a replacement for a part of the score he didn't like that Michael Kamen had written for Die Hard.
Prometheus had the best ship design in any scifi. It blowing up broke my heart.
Aliens is also my favourite of all time. I saw it in the cinema when I was 13 with my mum as that was the only way I could go due to the rating and I absolutely loved alien. I’ve never seen a cinema crowd stand, cheer and clap like I did when that loader bay door comes up. A defining moment of my youth. Not seen it since. Mum also loved it surprisingly.
Also the facehugger scene in the med lab where Ripley throws it and in runs toward camera and jumps at her face again….. well, that scarred me for life. I had nightmares about that POV scene of it jumping toward camera for MONTHS. Nothing yet is scarier than a facehugger loose in a room. Not a thing.
Just got sent this video by a friend and I'm blown away by your description of Aliens...because it IS how films should be done. I completely agree with all of your comments about it and its so awesome to find the same opinion re perfection in cinema as mine. The creature effects designer Stan Winston is a hero of mine and the Alien Queen was beautiful in every way....now lovingly immortalised as a tatt on my leg🖤
Love this...subscribed immediately 🤘
As much as i dont like Prometheus and Covenant i want to see how the story ends so if there is another Alien movie let it finally answer the questions even tho we know where its going.
The number 1 reason Ripley is such an amazing example of a strong female lead where as something like Rey or Captain Marvel is that Ellen Ripley is a bad ass but its not because she's perfect and she isn't perfect at all. Ripley has strength from her emotions and who she is as a long haul space trucker. She doesn't just magically do everything perfect like Rey just automatically being good with a lightsaber, or perfect with the force or stronger than every one else for the reason of "because" Ripley is strong willed and working toward the goal of saving the girl which is driving her to push herself to win. She doesn't win because she gets lucky or just happens to do everything perfectly and make zero mistakes. Thats why Ripley should be held up as the absolute GOLD STANDARD for a strong female lead or character in a movie. She wins cause its movie, but its a struggle she beats while having all the flaws a human being has.
omg yes!!! ive missed this channel!
Glad you're back! I still remember your vid on Hellraiser and all it's sequels was hilarious!
Thank you for this, I hope to see more in the near future.
Time for Paul to achieve his full potential and ditch those losers riding on his coattails.
One of you guys mentioned "City of the Living Dead", it's not related to the Romero films at all but I highly recommend that movie as well as it's director Lucio Fulci. His zombie movies like City of the Living Dead & The Beyond are like if George A. Romero & David Lynch made a movie. The practical effects are also amazing.
I was very lucky to see Gates of Hell in theatres. That was unique.
Zombi 2 sucks out loud, but he redeemed himself with COTD.
This is an amazing video. Well done my friend!
Welcome back. This video made my night. Thank you.
This will drop at midnight my time and I am here for my boi 🥰❤
4am where I live..
First things first, I love your commentary! I stumbled across your video for the first time this morning 7-28-2022 @ 3am pst.
Now that we've got that out of the way I want to first start out by saying AVP is an excellent action film considering that a lot of action films don't have a lot of meat to them. I consider it to be a standalone separate from the alien franchise and the Predator franchise and I actually like that they giving it a backstory that takes place inside of pyramids which I happen to be a big fan of. I was actually able to suspend disbelief that this plot was a possibility. Which I really hate that Hollywood doesn't do a lot more films around the whole mystery of Egypt, Peru, and pyramids, but I digress. It's a hell of a lot better than Alien Resurrection. I actually want them to do a sequel to AVP where they actually bring back the survivors from the original Predator and Alien series to Duke it out in the future.
Other than that I have to admit that you have an excellent UA-cam series and I hope to enjoy more of your commentary.
Been watching Patreon movie reviews so glad this channel is back. Please keep it coming
Alien and Aliens (with Aliens being my all-time favorite movie, ever) are just awesome beyond words. But (imho) only if you watch director´s cut, both of them, as they add immensely to the story. Also, 100% agree as to Ellen Ripley being ultimate bad@ss character as opposed to all message-forced-female-strong-characters. Ellen is so humble and brave at the same time it really makes her a natural hero. Awesome. Just awesome.
Re Alien 3, the reason most people hate it (I guess) me included is the way the frenchise so arrogantly disposed of Hicks and Newt, of the screen. It could be argued how "iconic" both characters were, Hicks in particular, but just killing both of them off was just lame. That is, ofcourse, only mho.
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Welcome back sir it's good to hear your voice
I remember the first time I saw Alien vs Predator, the scene where the female protagonist is watching the Predator create a bomb. The female asks “what is that?” Then the predator stops for a moment, ponders it, then mimes an explosion with its hand. I couldn’t believe that an author typed that into a script and felt it necessary to film, beyond a “wouldn’t it be fucking ridiculous” joke with a friend.
This was an outstanding review of the Alien franchise, and I totally agree with you about Aliens, which I have argued with friends about it being a better sequel than Godfather 2.
As a movie lover, I feel personally offended by Prometheus. Just because you polish a turd, it doesn’t mean, we are stupid enough to not know one.
If your characters need to be complete idiots for your plot to happen, then your movie sucks.
Nobody wants to watch a movie full of unpleasant dumbasses with a plot that only moves forward because all the characters are stupidly terrible at their jobs.
Who are you supposed to root for?
The pseudo archeologists that think aliens are inviting them to their home planet with 0 explanation on how they came to that conclusion?
The android that decides to kill them all because “just because”?
The geologist who can’t read his own maps?
The biologist that encounters strange life forms and follows 0 security protocols?
The captain that doesn’t take care of their crew?
The billionaire that thinks Omnipotent aliens will willingly give him eternal life because of “reasons”?
Or his “daughter” that does absolutely nothing in the whole movie and can pretty much be edited out and change nothing from the plot?
Philosophy of storytelling works with well written characters. You are right, these films just don't cut it.
Promethazine looked great but you're right the characters decisions made no sense at all and the Engineers were *NOT* the Space Jockey by ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
as a fan of alien since it came out i can say prometheus was great. something new and different was welcome and tying in our history and pop culture to give us a backstory was great.
"If your characters need to be complete idiots for your plot to happen, then your movie sucks. "
Well... I liked Spaceballs...
These are all rationalizations. They are examples of the sorts of complaints people come up with after they've decided they are going to hate a movie to attempt to justify it after the fact.
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This was an excellent review. I concur on almost every point. Your wit is very entertaining. I think I'll watch more.
I remember going on a Alien marathon a couple of years back. Three and four definitely weren't as bad as some people say they were, but looking back at it now they were quite weird. It didn't really build off of what one and two did. It was like having one immensely talented director working on part one and two and then a comedy guy working on part three and four. Nonetheless it wasn't THAT bad. I still think it had some enjoyable moments and should still be watched. The whole series as a whole has rewatched value. If you're only going to watch part one and two then I think you are doing yourself a disservice.
Prometheus and Alien covenant are beautiful sci movies. And dare i say it, good sci fi movies. If you're going in expecting the monster of aliens though then you will be highly disappointed. These two prequels try to explore the lore of what an Alien is and they do it quite beautifully. It raises existential questions as to why humans exist, what is their purpose and most importantly in those two films what is the purpose of the main character, David, an android. He genuinely scary. He is like Ted bundy where he seems harmless and nice but if you have seen the stuff he has done its nothing short of psychopathic. Which is weird to say because he is an android, right? So that's why I think the prequels are good sci fi movies. They aren't Alien one and two. If you're just living your life expecting and wanting everything to either be Alien one and two and not for what it is then I think you're living in the past. Its a similar argument to mumble rap and 90s rap. Yes, mumble rap is different but it's what today's generation is. But I digress.
If Alien vs predator counts as an alien film then I think Alien vs predator requiem was the worst film of them all
Holy shit. I was SURE this channel was DEAD!!!
It's pretty much the living dead at this point.
Happy to see you back. This straight up made my day.
WTF Happened to CinemaForCynics ?
How long has it been since you've watched these movies because Bishop did not did not have a malfunction he was literally programmed to oversee the entire mission and make sure that the alien got back to the corporation
Are you talking about Bishop or Ash?
@@fredleggett923 you may be right ash is the android from the first one isn't he
@@tommystrickland6268 Ash is the android in Alien. Bishop is in Aliens and briefly in Alien 3, Call is in Resurrection, and David/Walter is in Prometheus and Covenant.
Ash was indeed programmed by W-Y to ensure the survival of the xeno. It's unclear if Bishop had similar programming, though he's often fan cited as the reason eggs were on the Sulaco in Alien 3.
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