Put some aluminum Foil under the Oil filter when removing it. , Mold it to drain down into a separate Pan you hold in your hand. No need to have that mess we all know when we take off a Harley oil filter.
I don't think I've ever made uh reply towards you.I always see you here and there on the harley video's.What i must say is.You are spot on.Great Engine.Loved that you said engine and not motor.M8 up!2018 Road King Special over here.
Remove the crankshaft position sensor and measure how much, if any oil come out of the dry sump with the bike hot & upright. If 6 oz. or more it is sumping, see H-D Service Bulletin, M1450. My '18 CVO Limited SE 115th Anniversary did, yours can too.
If your oil level is low and your bike seems sluggish make sure it is not wet sumping. The M8 engine seems to have this issue on the earlier models. Also , feuling recommends not to use synthetic oil along with their oil pump and cam plate to get rid of the sumping problem. I went through this on a 2018 CVO bagger. You’d think Harley would have it figured out by now.
Very cool you prefill the filter, been doing that for years on everything I own. NEVER seen anyone else do it. Not sure it's necessary, but since the end state is a filter that is fully saturated, why not go ahead and pre-fill the filter, rather than waiting a few seconds for the oil pump to do it ?
Hand tightening is the correct way IF you can do so. Otherwise, seat the filter by hand until it makes contact then use the wrench to tighten 1/2 -3/4 more turn. Result is the same.
They sold me 6 quarts of oil at the dealer for my 114 m8... 5.5 quarts into it i over flowed. drained aprox. 1 quart, checked and it was under the fill line... added the last 1/2 quart I had into it, checked and it was half way up the jiffy stand side. Started it and ran it for a few and waited and checked it again and it's at the bottom of the oil level on the stick... WTF?
I've seen the fill quantity be anywhere between 4.5 and 5.2 quarts. I'm thinking its 4.5 prelubing the filter and 5.2 not prelubing. K&N oil filters have a socket head on them. No need needing a filter wrench ever again.
At least harley has put some engineering into that dipstick. The manufacturer of my bike tells me to read the oil level when the bike is in a upright position. Too bad this bike doesnt come with a center stand. Sidestand only... 🤦🏼♂️
Snug it up 1/2 to 3/4 is fine. The biggest thing is not to over tighten the filter, it will eventually draw down a bit and tighten more overtime. As long as its not leaking your'e good.
Great video, how does Motul differ from HD’s own oil? I’m in the UK and we get Motul 7100 but not the Motul RSD Twin oil? Also what filter did you use and is there any benefit from an upgraded one?
Its a Twin Power filter. Its beneficial to use a quality filter just for piece of mind. You want stick with a trusted brand so you don't have to worry about filter internals falling apart or particulate getting by an inferior element. Filters are cheap motors aren't. Without getting into the weeds on oil specifics the best way to think about MOTUL vs HD oil would be this - MOTUL has been in the lubricant business since 1853, researching and developing oils. Harley makes motorcycles and uses a 3rd party to source its oil.
@@jpcycles what's your opinion on Bel-Ray? I used that based off my local shop's recommendation for my first oil change on my 2019 RK. I used to use Maxima Vtwin on my stage 3 883 very good oil.
Put 4 quarts in, run it, check levels and add till you're good on the measurement stick. The reason H-D service manual does not advise putting all 4.7(?) quarts is because even after draining, there's still some retention in various areas and your replaced oil filter. If you overfill there will be more pressure on your seals and gaskets, and generally you will end up getting oil leaking to the air filter. Not good, but I've never seen a case of severe damage from overfilling. I have replaced gaskets on a dirtbike that was overfilled and that bike ran like a champ for over a decade. If you put too much, drain some out and keep checking the stick.
That would depend somewhat on what kind of bike you have. We used MOTUL for this bike. For this particular bike the factory recommends every 5000 miles.
The first service you or dealer touches all 3 holes.So Engine,Tranny,and Clutch which is called the Primary get drained at that first service.There after Transmission can go for uh while.It doesn't suffer from the combustion chamber and carbon build up.So i think it's like at the 20,000 or 25,000 mile service.Could be wrong,check owner or service manual.
See more tech tips on Countersteer - www.jpcycles.com/countersteer?Oil_Change_:_Harley_Davidson_Milwaukee_8_Touring_Models&PnimLYs1mA
Put some aluminum Foil under the Oil filter when removing it. , Mold it to drain down into a separate Pan you hold in your hand. No need to have that mess we all know when we take off a Harley oil filter.
Yup, ruined rubber engine mounts for sure
Was about to say the same. But when I saw how limited the space is I dont think this trick would work on this particular bike.
The m8 is a remarkable engine
Agreed, very responsive to modification.
I don't think I've ever made uh reply towards you.I always see you here and there on the harley video's.What i must say is.You are spot on.Great Engine.Loved that you said engine and not motor.M8 up!2018 Road King Special over here.
Remove the crankshaft position sensor and measure how much, if any oil come out of the dry sump with the bike hot & upright. If 6 oz. or more it is sumping, see H-D Service Bulletin, M1450. My '18 CVO Limited SE 115th Anniversary did, yours can too.
If your oil level is low and your bike seems sluggish make sure it is not wet sumping. The M8 engine seems to have this issue on the earlier models. Also , feuling recommends not to use synthetic oil along with their oil pump and cam plate to get rid of the sumping problem. I went through this on a 2018 CVO bagger. You’d think Harley would have it figured out by now.
We have not experienced any of the sumping problems. But yes they are an issue on early M8 models
My God that oil looks clean.(Draining Part)
was thinking the same thing...
He said its the break in oil. So that oil change was really about flushing all the metal particles out. Not because the oil was worn.
Very cool you prefill the filter, been doing that for years on everything I own. NEVER seen anyone else do it. Not sure it's necessary, but since the end state is a filter that is fully saturated, why not go ahead and pre-fill the filter, rather than waiting a few seconds for the oil pump to do it ?
It’d be cooler if he did it the correct way
yes to preoil filter. especially since these efi bikes jump to high revs so fast. cant really bump the starter like older bikes
Been doing this as long as I can remember.
I never done it… never had a problem
HAND TIGHT ON THE FILTER, NO WRENCHING IT TIGHT
Guys a meat head lol
Was it just me or did he torque down that oil filter Big Time! Hand only and I think 1/2 turn after gasket makes contact.
its just you :)
Hand tightening is the correct way IF you can do so. Otherwise, seat the filter by hand until it makes contact then use the wrench to tighten 1/2 -3/4 more turn. Result is the same.
Hey Mr know it all I'm just wondering why you even went looking for a video on how to change your oil ?
I didn’t know Motul made v Twin oil, learn something new. 👍👍
Nice..A no nonsense video
Why does HD use o-rings? Why not a milled surface and a copper washer?
copper washers are for commies
I think the service manual says to hand tighten the new oil filter
not a bad idea
Ya you’re not supposed to tighten that kind of oil filter in by hand
* I mean with a tool
@@jacobscherer5859 lol just nuke your old post to avoid confusion!
Just curious why you would add possibly contaminated oil to filter before putting on?
It was brand new oil from a brand new bottle. The idea is to keep as much air out of the system as you can.
Thx for sharing ur a good guy!
Good stuff mate!
They sold me 6 quarts of oil at the dealer for my 114 m8... 5.5 quarts into it i over flowed. drained aprox. 1 quart, checked and it was under the fill line... added the last 1/2 quart I had into it, checked and it was half way up the jiffy stand side. Started it and ran it for a few and waited and checked it again and it's at the bottom of the oil level on the stick... WTF?
Have you ever thought of a service manual?
yeah, some of those clowns at the stealership have no idea what they are talking about. Agree, always bust out the service manual.
@@juanforlife stealership....
Now that's funny!!😂
I've seen the fill quantity be anywhere between 4.5 and 5.2 quarts. I'm thinking its 4.5 prelubing the filter and 5.2 not prelubing. K&N oil filters have a socket head on them. No need needing a filter wrench ever again.
My 2018 street glide takes 3.5 quarts.
@@dennisdunaway9137 ....saving money with a short fill?
@@timwestlake2197 nope that’s what mine takes. Maybe they put bigger pan on some. The book on mine even says 3.5. I always check it and it’s good.
What is the purpose of the sump plug? Oil changes? Why does the plug even exist?
Any news about the new the 120cube s&s kit ?
At least harley has put some engineering into that dipstick. The manufacturer of my bike tells me to read the oil level when the bike is in a upright position. Too bad this bike doesnt come with a center stand. Sidestand only... 🤦🏼♂️
Good explanations
Just ordered filter and oil from you guys.
now on that drain plug in stall. i heard that Harley said to put 565 loctite on it that has ptfe on it... what do you say???
The HD manual says nothing about loctite on the plug. I would make sure the o-ring is in good shape and torque to 14-21ftlbs.
on that oil filter install... Harley David said to just touch oiled up rubber seal then turn 1/2 to 3/4 tighter... what do you say???
Snug it up 1/2 to 3/4 is fine. The biggest thing is not to over tighten the filter, it will eventually draw down a bit and tighten more overtime. As long as its not leaking your'e good.
you are correct, that was too much
What did you spray in area after you removed oil filter?
Brake clean, to clean up the oil that spilled on the engine case.
At what is the brake in mileage for the first oil change? I have a 2019 with 1,500 miles
1,000 miles
What size torque wrench please?
What did you spray on the oil filter housing after you removed the filter?
derrrr
What did you use to clean the oil filter receptacle with?
just standard brake parts cleaner
Great video, how does Motul differ from HD’s own oil? I’m in the UK and we get Motul 7100 but not the Motul RSD Twin oil? Also what filter did you use and is there any benefit from an upgraded one?
Its a Twin Power filter. Its beneficial to use a quality filter just for piece of mind. You want stick with a trusted brand so you don't have to worry about filter internals falling apart or particulate getting by an inferior element. Filters are cheap motors aren't. Without getting into the weeds on oil specifics the best way to think about MOTUL vs HD oil would be this - MOTUL has been in the lubricant business since 1853, researching and developing oils. Harley makes motorcycles and uses a 3rd party to source its oil.
That’s my thoughts exactly, how does the Motul 7100 differ from the Motul RSD Twin oil? Both designed for big twins.
@@jpcycles what's your opinion on Bel-Ray? I used that based off my local shop's recommendation for my first oil change on my 2019 RK. I used to use Maxima Vtwin on my stage 3 883 very good oil.
What happens if its overfilled?
Put 4 quarts in, run it, check levels and add till you're good on the measurement stick. The reason H-D service manual does not advise putting all 4.7(?) quarts is because even after draining, there's still some retention in various areas and your replaced oil filter. If you overfill there will be more pressure on your seals and gaskets, and generally you will end up getting oil leaking to the air filter. Not good, but I've never seen a case of severe damage from overfilling. I have replaced gaskets on a dirtbike that was overfilled and that bike ran like a champ for over a decade. If you put too much, drain some out and keep checking the stick.
should be using a funnel to put the oil in with-out making a mess
there's a link to a funnel in the description. Some of us have poured enough oil we don't need one.
- Patrick
@@jpcycles 😂😂😂
What is the oil filter part number?
FYI - Links are always in the description
any of these will work www.jpcycles.com/2019-harley-davidson-touring-road-glide-fltrx/oil-filters/twin-power
What oil u recommend and how many mile I can run on it ?
That would depend somewhat on what kind of bike you have. We used MOTUL for this bike. For this particular bike the factory recommends every 5000 miles.
J&P Cycles ultra limited 2017
I have always used Amsoil but it’s your choice
@@Archeriomc My dealer says that now HD makes an oil better than amsoil specific for the M8, any truth to that?
So how long before you have to change the transmission oil
The first service you or dealer touches all 3 holes.So Engine,Tranny,and Clutch which is called the Primary get drained at that first service.There after Transmission can go for uh while.It doesn't suffer from the combustion chamber and carbon build up.So i think it's like at the 20,000 or 25,000 mile service.Could be wrong,check owner or service manual.
So your saying on the m8's the clutch is run off the primary fluid? Interesting.....
One oil evrywere?
Bro I’d never let you touch my bike after seeing how tight you put oil filter on with. Hand right not wrench tight
Bro... you learned him!... bro! Smh....