Calling all Toyota Technicians. whether your agree or disagree with me, I'd love to chat with you (anonymously if requested). If you are interested in providing your perspective/images/videos or data on how many failures (or lack of failures) you see year over year at your dealership, I'm all ears. I am not trying to bash Toyota nor paint them as infallible. Email me at cars AT thecarguyonline.com to discuss further.
I've had my 2022 Tundra for over 2 years now. It has over 50k miles, 3,000 or so towing. Many miles of light to moderate off-roading. I've had no issues at all so far. My only complaint would be cabin noise at highway speeds, and some creaking on the interior parts when pushing on them.
Same, Toyota guy here. They are now way to complicated. The Nissan Frontier gets the same gas mileage and have a naturally aspirated V6!!! FOR LESS. WITH TWICE THE LENGTH OF WARRANTY.
I miss my 2004 Tacoma but frame rotted out. Couldn’t justify patching it. Opted for a used 2021 tundra trail edition with 25000 miles a few months ago that was not cheap (but affordable compared to new Toyota trucks) but have way more faith in that v8 than this new era of toyota. Great advice at end of video and I agree.
It's time to abandon the concept of brand loyalty. No company cares about us the people, Toyota is just another corp that wants to make profit off of you and comply with governments/global org policies. My 2020 Camry had serious rattles and paint/rust issues from day one, serious cost cuts everywhere. I'm also going to stick to my 2021 Tundra until it dies, not going to touch their new product lines.
@@jimsomerville3924they don’t care about the mpg, because obviously, and to your point,the new engines don’t get any better gas mileage. It’s the emissions the government “cares” about. They’d rather put a smaller displacement engine with a turbo than have a naturally aspirated larger engine.
@@douglowry7382 If the government cared about the environment, we would have small turbo diesels like all of Europe is using. If we burn less fuel, they get less taxes. The govt is incentivized to keep us buying vehicles that get bad mpg.
I remember Scotty Kilmer lamenting that Toyota was getting away from the 5.7 V8 and going to smaller turbo engines. He said they would never hold up or last, seems the man was right.
Scotty has EXPERIENCE. As do I. He and I are about the same age. Obviously he is in the car repair business main stream whereas I am a little less directly but do a lot with cars, light and heavy trucks. Scotty is right. Turbos suck (yea I know they actually blow but that is beside the point) People do not know how to care for a turbo engine. When you floor it and red line as most male and some female Dilberts do at every red light the engine cannot take it. However if you unpack this further you see these are people beyond a certain age that drive the truck like sane people (not like Mario Andretti no disrespect meant) and they are still failing. Very strong forensic evidence the engine is a poor design, weak and destine to fail! A PRODUCTION engine with an ALUMINUM block (remember production for weight and cost controls) is made to mass produce. Turbos in the past (60's maybe) were in exotic cars with engines designed, cast, and built up to take high revs (in excess of 8K) extreme boost and hard revving under boost. This is a TOYOTA for the Lord's sake. NOT A FERRARI I mean when did you last see a 2.5 million dollar Ferrari towing a boat! Exactly so either lower people's expectations for the Toyota or build a super car engine for it. Spun bearings fundamentally points toward a WEAK BLOCK under too much pressure. OK production mass produced block, possibly weak bottom end and DUAL FREEKIN TURBOS is a recipe for spun bearings. Anybody with half sense and one eye should understand. If you glibly blow Scotty and even I off you will be marooned by the road with 10K~ miles and spun bearings.. Face it fan boys this engine is weak! WEAK WEAK WEAK. Cast iron block, heavy webs for the bearings large webs, 4 bolt mains and a 10 quart oil pan with a massive oil cooler maybe. But Aluminum block making all this HP and raging turbos the truck cannot survive. Physics as I told many people even before this truck started flowing out of the plants are against it. Don't believe us just watch history has a way exonerating prophets like Scotty and if I may humbly say myself.
Scotty Kilmer is a shill, I'm amazed he hasn't gone the way of Wranglerstar. For the record spun bearings are caused by incorrect crank fitment or oil starvation. Boost has nothing to do with it.
@@davidthomas2585 the shotgun technique should mean he's wrong half the time right? guess what, he NEVER IS. And he predicted this turbo stuff years ago, back when you didn't even know what a turbo was 😢
Yep, doesn't matter the brand. And if you hate money even more, add more features to break! I was a bit disappointed when I bought my truck that it didn't have LED lights, but I'll take a $20 or less bulb replacement over mandatory "replace the whole assembly" for $500+ because some water got in... Something that happens with vehicles, they are in nasty environments. Adding more tech just makes them more failure prone and more difficult to repair.
@@churchofmarcus My 2005 Toyota Tundra cost me $13,000 in 2014 with 95K miles on it. 10 years later and it's cost me nothing but a few preventative maintenance items to keep running like new. Best truck ever.
Trucks are insanely expensive to own, drive and maintain, period. It's these grown men who envy buy a large, expensive truck just as a commuter because they see other guys driving them. With fads like trucks, the modern American man is just like a woman.
Everything people hated about the Gen 2 & Gen 3 Tundra’s I loved. Delightfully unsophisticated but going hundreds of thousands of trouble free miles. V8, no giant computer screens to operate simple functions. Brilliant Toyota, brilliant.
I couldn’t agree more! I have a 2008 Tundra DC 4X4 with the 5.7L V8. I purchased it brand new in September 2008 with just 33 miles on the odometer. As of today (May 14, 2024) my truck has 133,644 trouble free miles. I only use Amsoil Signature 100% synthetic oil, which I change every 7500 miles, and I use Amsoil fluids (gear oil) for front/rear differential and transfer case. I love having an actual key, no silly looking iPad stuck to the dash, and 381 horses to get me the heck outta dodge! I only average 16.2 mpg (using cruise control on an old US highway, which is what I normally drive on) but I’ll take 16.2 and my 5.7’s reliability over a push button start, iPad stuck to the dash turbo POS that won’t last 15 years!
@@TheTundraDude57 My buddy calls my 2016 a dinosaur. He looses his mind every time he gets in it because it doesn't have push button start! Long after his Audi has been recycled into and appliance, my tundra will still be rolling down the road.
GM has used the consumer as a test bed for generations. Ford tested the ecoboost in the baja 1000 after running that engine on a dyno for 100k miles, testing at full GCWR with trailer at speed at nascar track for 24 hours stopping only for tires and gas. And that was after years of engineering work
@@workingcountry1776 Took the words right out of my mouth. Toyota, in my eyes, fired the QC department and threw the responsibility of fixing it as they go onto the consumer. Then only warranty 20%, leaving the rest of its base disgruntled and unwilling to ever buy Toyota again.
Never heard of your channel before, that being said, this is one of the most honest, intelligent, salt of the Earth, regular guy videos I have heard in a long time. My EXACT sentiments you have listed, issue by issue. We have no debt, buy used but sanitary and do our research. I paid cash for our 2017 Tundra, 2018 Outback and 2018 Tacoma. Like I said, we do our research, buy used, but clean vehicles and the sellers find it peculiar when I pull out my creeper, headlamp and tool bag and start snooping around under the vehicle.
A title? Never more! It's the latest spiffy, neat, super cool deluxe feature of predatory disaster/crony/vulture crapitalism. You will own NOTHING: Not your house, your vehicle, your music, videos or software. Just keep paying. Month after month... forever.
Same here, I bought a 2019 limited 4x4 and the price was almost the same as a Tacoma because everyone was worried about the price of gas. $45k with 0%, I made last payment a few months ago. 90k miles and not one problem. I hope I can make this truck last a long time, those kinds of deals are long gone, and I'll never be able to afford another truck, any make. It doesn't feel outdated to me, heated seats and led headlights, best truck I have ever owned.
Exactly. The people who complain about the Toyota engines being outdated are not Toyota customers in the first place. Loyal Toyota customers didn't care, we wanted reliability. My 5.7L V8 Tundra has 300k on it.
@@kyleginder1322 Ford, Dodge, and Chevy are still making V8s so there must be someway around it. I have a 14 Tundra but thinking about going to a F-250 for my next truck.
@@cournell08 Yea they are using cylinder deactivation. Basically when you dont need the extra power the v8 goes down to 4 or 6 cylinders. Im not sure about about Ford but I know GM has had some problems with engines from the cylinder deactivation.
yeah theyre right. it will never happen with the future emiission goals they are federally mandated to meet. the next thing you will see are only electric trucks. give it a decade
Something happened since Covid. Everything everywhere went to crap. Even replacement auto parts are a joke these days. It's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get.
That's because people care less and less about the longevity of everything being manufactured today. The society's rotting has been accelerating on all levels, from car mechanics to elected presidents.
You are very correct! I worked in auto parts for the past 15 years. (Napa if anyone wants to know), and during and after COVID, quality is pathetic. Supply chain, worker shortage, people paid to stay home, whatever excuse was given, quality plummeted and has not rebounded. Parts we sold that never had issues, were coming in missing pieces, defective, or boxed entirely incorrectly. We even received oil filters with no gaskets and some without even having threads cut in them. It was unreal the crap we saw. Like I said, I had 15 years and from 2019-2023, I saw more problems, and quality issues than in all the rest of the years combined. I switched careers mid '23 and from talking to my old coworkers, they're still seeing issues. I'm afraid quality is gone for good.
I work for a Toyota dealership in southern ontario. We currently have two master technicians doing 35 hours jobs replacing the short blocks. We have three Tundras 2024 needing rear windows replaced. Additionally there is a recall for premature tire wear on the lifted 2024 tundras.
Im a Toyota Master technician and we do multiple engines a week on the new Tundras (2022+). The rest come in with 10+ complaints each time they come in for one of their many many recalls.
If you ever feel like connecting let me know. I'd keep your identity safe. I really want to talk to techs like you to figure out how prevalent this is across the country. My guess is the public only gets to see 15% or so of what goes on behind those doors, and what you are saying aligns with that. I'm at cars@thecarguyonline.com if you want to connect :).
My 2022 Tundra has had 3 recalls. I wasn't affected by the tonneau cover one. 1) The electronic parking break 2) fuel line fire hazard 3) lunging forward when shifting to neutral. My truck has over 50k miles and I'm very pleased so far. The only thing you'll hear me complaining about it cabin noise at highway speeds.
I did those three recalls / campaigns on a '23 tundra on Friday. For these things I understand the annoyance. There is , however no updated software for main bearing failure. Change your engine oil at short intervals and say a prayer. @@MountainManBran
TFL used to be great until they got hit with a timeout by Ford for a bad review and then chose politics over sense with EV’s. They edit out some much now to protect brands and tiptoe around issues.
@@PM_Doug TFL has been caught multiple times shilling for Ford thanks to the aggressive online influencing of Mike Levine. TFL didn't waste time to report on a lawsuit against GM for their 8-speed problems, but when the F-150 began to have tons of problems with the 10-speed and got sued by the same law firm, TFL didn't say a single thing. Toyota is also extremely aggressive. Toyota did everything they could to minimize the issues they experienced with the 4th gen Tacoma and they never dare mention engine failures when covering the Tundra. If you put out negative coverage of Toyota products, they will blacklist you. Ask Ben Hardy.
I downgraded TFL from a *BLACK BELL* to a white bell on notices. But I blocked *"Automotive Press"* from showing up on my channel. The dude is a total "shill" for Toyota even dances round, Letting us know the price of these total pieces of junk . 💩💩💩
@@marcochavanne yeah but they weren’t mad. they just said “well, we bought one of the first batches so things like that happen i guess”…paraphrasing ofc.
People need to ABANDON the concept of brand loyalty. They are all corporations whos end goal is to make profits, save money, cut costs, and comply with governments/global orgs. I've been only buying Toyota/Lexus cars for the last decade and currently drive one too (2020 V8 Tundra, best truck I've ever owned). After owning a clicky and rattly 2020 Camry for 4 years I realized how poor Toyota's build quality has become, as the brakes on that car also went out at 13K miles due to cheap rotors.
I've owned nothing but Toyotas since 2016, 4 Tundras as well as a Prius, 2 RAV4's, a top tier Camry V-6 XSE, and a Highlander Platinum...All with ZERO PROBLEMS!!! ALL except the Prius built in Japan, were American built. I'll stick with Toyota Trucks. I just purchased a 2020 Hyundai Sante Fe Limited, built in Alabama, and expect good things from it as well. If it performs well I may start getting Hyundai's for smaller vehicles, but sticking with Toyota for trucks & minivans.
@@Bush63Master I may never buy a hyundai/kia, they made 10s-100s of thosands of engines wrong and they would blow up early. Know a guy at a dealer who has probably changed 100s under warranty... Many say the new turbo tundras are pos trucks too.
@connor3288 I hear ya...but I'm speaking of my own personally verifiable experiences, and my sister & her husband have run nothing but Hyundai for the past 8 years. With no issues. Whether or not others run into issues is noteworthy, but not knowing how they actually drive and maintain their vehicles, because when people complain their always the best drivers, and meticulous with their maintenance, without exception, and refusing to acknowledge their own faults in creating/exacerbating the failures. I always buy top tiers, which tend to have better parts & more stringent assembly & quality control processes. Even the best have lemons that escape, but Toyota is typically one of the best. Time will tell.
@@connor3288 Premature warped rotors at 13K miles then they somehow rusted through, even dealer service manager admitted the ones I got were trash and defective. Our 2007 Camry factory rotors lasted 70K and still felt decent.
I’m a mechanic shop owner. It’s not just the 3.4 turbo engine that is having issues. It seems to be the trend with newer Toyotas. 1.5 oil consumption issues, and 1.8 Prius camshaft issues, 2.4 Camry & highlanders, & 2.5 oil consumption issues. In fact Toyota has always had issues. Toyota just does a good job hiding it. It’s not just engines either. Ball joint problems, crap shocks, rust issues, weatherstripping issues, blower motor issues, clockspring issues, etc
Oil consumption issues, is it because of the low friction position rings? I have a 2.4 Sonata runs great burns 2/3 was every 1k. But just did the B12 Piston soak. And it seems promising as after 500 miles I don’t see much change in oil level.
Yep my Corolla cross shake like a mad man highly maintained only 15k miles I got rid of it hate cars that shake my gf 15 old corillla shake nothing and she k my change oil
Imagine if the first 22 tundra owners with blown engines got the TFL treatment. Instead of quibbling over warranties, fighting claims, and parts cannoning short blocks, they just sent a whole crate motor to the dealer, swapped the entire engine and shipped the bad engines back to engineering where in a controlled environment could have torn down the whole engine and found the root problem.
Absolutely, the dealerships do not have technicians sufficiently skilled to do a complete engine tear down. It’s not their core business. Disaster to follow if they split the engines at the dealership
Absolutely correct sir, I recently retired from the auto service business and unfortunately these highly stressed government compliant engines will not last. Take the new Tundra, you have to remove the cab to service the turbos and the cab never sets back down correctly. It's so easy to pinch a wire etc. no matter how careful the mechanic is. The first years those actuators were failing all the time on the turbos. They are going to be throw away trucks and cars.
The cabs don’t have to be removed to service turbos. We’ve serviced them. Driver side is definitely more difficult, but turbo r&r takes our guys about 6 hours.
Hey I agree 100% this was the specific reason I purchased my 2019 Tundra 1794 was that it has the 5.7 V8. I saw everyone else gravitating towards turbos and figure Toyota would do the same. Now I'm so happy I have the last truck I will ever buy parked in my driveway with a naturally aspirated V8. Great callout my friend!!
I know a lot of people hate on the German brands, but I have been a VW tech for ten years. It’s rare to find a VW engine with catastrophic engine failure but when we do find it and it’s under warranty, they replace the LONG BLOCK assembly and if it’s turbocharged, they have us replace the turbo too. Everything and anything that’s in the oiling circuit. There’s no way to know where that metal debris went and they won’t risk a repeat repair.
You are spot on with Toyota getting the popular UA-camrs to go on record how wonderful these crappy cars really are. Some who are telling the truth are no longer invited to Toyota affairs.
I stopped buying Toyotas so they aren't invited to my garage anymore. They have no claim to their original reputation of reliability. The 2024 and up pricing/ridiculous design philosophy is aimed at ignorant fanboys who were never around during the good days of Toyota.
@@Scroll_Lockmy issue is mostly their horrible dealers who exist with minimal oversight of corporate and effectively work for their independent regional distributor…in my case the insane Gulf States Toyota markups, and then dealer markups on top.
Today is a win for the UA-cam algorithm. No idea how I stumbled on your channel, but this is highly relevant and awesome information. Keep up the good work, my friend.
What made Toyota reliable in the past was their naturally aspirated engines but now that they got rid of those engines and are offering only turbo/hybrid engines they just became like German manufacturers. What that means is that their vehicles will not be reliable compared to their past history.
Modern turbo engines are just about as reliable as N/A engines when properly cared for. A lot of people don't know how to properly drive turbo engines and do nonsense like lug it under stress, go way over the oil change interval, etc. My 2020 civic si's puny lil 1.5 turbo is coming up on 80k miles and the engine still looks/functions like new because it's actually maintained. One thing that's true and kinda sucks is that we're no longer able to neglect maintance like past NA engines but I'll take that trade-off for more torque and better gas mileage.
80k is a joke for a barely broken engine...the 1.5 is a high strung engine and initial ones had oil dilution which is said to have been fixed but you won't know until you send it to the lab for analysis. Not saying they are grenades but they won't last as long as an NA even with diligent maintenance.
@sporkybutterz completely incorrect. it's actually not high strung at all, very low compression and low boost from factory but the crazy part is how many people are running ktuners pushing over 22lbs of boost and regularly hitting over 150k with zero issues aside from the weak stock clutch. Also the oil dilution problem is largely a thing of the past and was only an issue in cooler areas. Back to my main point, although the new tundra engine does seem to have issues, the new tacoma engine is been in use for about a decade now in lexus models with zero issues. If we were talking about a Chrysler, Ford or bmw product, I'd say you're right to worry but the Japanese turbos are largely solid as evidence shows.
If only people understood what they were talking about, Toyota takes years to develop something so it works, sure there are early problems but in the long run it will be just as reliable.
I drive a 2014 Tundra. Bought it used with 11,000 miles on it in 2017 for $32k. It's not flashy or head turning, etc. I do routine maintenance on it, but really nothing else. It runs like my 1998 Tacoma V-6 did that had well over 200,000 miles on it when I traded it in on the Tundra. No reliability issues at all. I'm not a mechanic, but I am smart enough to hang onto my 2014 with a V-8 for years to come. I just subscribed to your channel. Look forward to more content in the future.
@@stevieray1828 No not a recall the whole entire transmission is considered defective and being replaced . I’m in talks with Toyota head quitters about a buy back or a new replacement truck . More worse the truck has been at the shop for over a month waiting on parts on back order and after they supposedly finally got the parts and went to do the job now that said the new transmission didn’t come with the torque converter which that thought it would so now have to wait longer for that part to come in & im in Hawaii and they are sending everything on the barge (slow boat ) which takes for ever . 70k truck and auto loan payments and insurance bills All just to have a Brand new truck sit on there lot with the rest of the other ones they can’t sell !! Completely Ridiculous!!!
What issue did your transmission have? My 2024 tundra makes a quick slip when going into certain gears like you feel a small knock when it engages to a certain gear. My brother's defective silverado did the same thing and it was the transmission going out. My truck only has 8000 miles I'm thinking about going to the dealer to see what's going on because it's concerning
I recently bought a 2024 Tundra. The dealer explicitly stated to me that the crankshaft bearing problem was fixed for 2024. He was underinformed or lying. The 2024s are blowing up, just like the 2023/2022s, and now there are reports of 2025's blowing up! I suspect that Toyota hasn't extended the 2022/2023 engine recall to the 2024s until they have sold the 2024s off their lots. Great Company! Obviously, the bearing problem is not completely explained by debris left in during forging in Alabama and Japan. It is a metallurgical problem with the bearing.
Toyota changed the Part # of the #1 bearing in April 2024. That bearing change might be "the fix." If so, there are lots of 2024 Tundras at risk. Instead of focusing on engineering, Toyota has focused on complicated, expensive trim items. Remember "new Coke", which was supposed to be better than old Coke? Below, please find a great analysis of the bearing problem by the Car Care Nut! ua-cam.com/video/EyI4ujjxxuk/v-deo.htmlsi=kjGux5M
I agree. How should Nissan go about capitalizing on this? An advertising blitz? Bring in lots of Frontiers? My dealer has 1 Frontier and it's been there for over a month. I just don't know what Nissan should do?
That’s a damn shame they killed the Titan. Because they could’ve stolen dodge and Toyota full size customers: you can have any full size truck from us as long as it’s a V8
It’s not Toyota that’s doing this, it’s Toyota America. The Toyota CEO in Japan stated that he was tired of electric and hybrid vehicle problems and was no longer interested in making them.
I literally thought that same thing where he says "small UA-cam channel like mine" while speaking the truth = how to be a big UA-camr= how to get in the lens of lawyers. It's a vicious cycle of who/what you can trust 🤣
I have a 2013 Tundra with 95k on it and a dealer lifetime powertrain warranty. 🤔It's been a great truck, so it sounds like I am keeping it. Thank you for the video. I had been thinking about replacing it, but not now.
Love this video! Just validated my purchase of a 2021 Tundra with 32000 mile. Thing looks brand new and I got a good deal! So happy with this truck, drive train is smooth as glass.
I just bought a beautiful 98 Silverado Z71 with 94K on it. When the power train goes, I’ll replace it. No active fuel management, no turbos No BS! Not paying 70 grand for a half ton truck. Especially one that has a $32,000 engine!
01 GMC 2500 8.1 with allison trans. 380000 trouble free miles since new. Will never buy a new truck again. I can completely rebuild this truck for a fraction of the cost of a new one.
pattern failures on them are well doccumented and ez to fix. G80 rear will fail if it hasnt already, 4L60E is a flimsy transmission for towing but motor w/ syn oil is very reliable for hundreds of thousands of miles.
My reply from Toyota over wind noise and air leaks. Hi Jay. We were able to get in touch with the Service Manager. After the additional diagnosis, they were able to confirm that the wind noise was consistent across all the Tundras that were tested, therefore, it's been considered to be a characteristic of the vehicle.
Translated: "We designed this poorly and yours is no worse than the rest of our garbage, deal with it". What a joke...Sorry you are having these issues.
@@TacoMonster4eva I disagree I had a 2014 Xterra for 7 years before this TItan and a new 2005 Tacoma before and The Toyota was a lemon not to mention the quality was not up to par as the Nissans.
Everybody is shitting on Toyota, and rightfully so. However. Does anybody remember back in 2015, when the Tundra was consistently top of the resale value hierarchy, and then within a matter of 1 month, Tundras were popping up on car gurus for 9k under “book” value… The Toyota philosophy of building reliability over time, was “boring”… All of a sudden the Tundra was unwanted. Even though you could damn near pour nails in the gas tank, and it would still start, every time. Auto mags were slamming it for being “out dated” and “behind the curve”… Well. This is what you get. The American Market, (and retarded EPA standards), killed the Tundra we all loved. That classic 5.7 was boring, to American buyers. The 6 speed was last decade. And the Tundra didn’t sell. And the used Tundras, (despite out lasting everything on the market by 300k miles), weren’t being purchased. So Toyota changed their strategy. To appeal to the American market… Which does not align with what we loved about the Toyota way of building vehicles. It’s the same trend that killed Pontiac, Chevrolet, and every other reliable, affordable, vehicle of yesteryear. Remember that. We voted with our dollars. We wanted bigger touch screens. Panda massaged leather, heated/cooled/lumbar detecting/osteoporosis detecting seats.. We killed Toyota. America is the ONLY market for Full size Toyota trucks. We asked them to produce the same BULLSH*T, the big 3 have been vomiting the past decade. And we got it.
Toyota is a trillion dollar company. Something. Probably the largest production in the world. They had record profits this past year. They will be fine.
@@itsallminor6133 I don’t think you understood. Yes they will continue to make money. They’ll just be doing it the same way Ford, Ram, and Chevy do. Producing flashy bs that breaks within a few years. The Old Kaizen philosophy Toyota built their trucks with is dead. It’s no longer about being reliable or affordable. That’s taken a distant back seat to bells and other shiny bs. And that’s exactly what the American market begged them to do. Now everybody is turning heal and pointing out issues with the new Tundra not being robust, reliable, or affordable like the last gen.. And largely it’s the same people who absolutely sh*t on the old Tundra for years, for being so boring. If the old Tundra had sold like the F-150, or Ram even. We’d be seeing a very different Tundra now I suspect.
All the guys on UA-cam like tfl and the rest of them kept saying that Tundra was outdated the powertrain was old heck that was the best thing about the Tundras. That's why I bought the one I have, no turbos and no displacement on demand (afm).
I was looking for a truck last year and was looking at the new tundras. Almost bought one. But as i was about to pull the trigger, a 2018 1795 edition tundra popped up. I jumped on it and now its in my driveway. Swapped out the stereo and looking to put new rims on it. It will be my forever truck.
Thanks for putting honest info out. Bought 2000 Tundra, 2004 LX470, and 23 4R - all when new. Still have all of them and will not buy anything with turbo or small engine. Toyota is doing a good job burying the issues in the search engines.
I would never accept a replaced motor under warranty, if you buy a new truck ripping it half apart and putting it together was never part of the deal or why you buy it
Is there a way to make the dealership or manufacturer buy the truck back instead of putting a new engine in? Just curious because I’d never accept anew engine replacement in a brand new truck.
I bought my 2017 SR5 used in 2019 with 22k miles for $38k and absolutely love it... The only work it has needed is just normal maintenance... Recently did brakes for the first time at 60k miles and just upgraded the sound system and that's all it has needed... I plan on keeping it as long as possible which may be forever. My first ever Toyota was a 1981 shortbed SR5 4x4 that had almost 500k miles when I sold it.... It's a shame where things appear to be heading with Toyota...
I was in South East Asia and had the opportunity to rent a Toyota hilux Revo with the 4 cylinder 2.8 liter diesel engine. Drove like a v6 sedan and got 29 mpg.
My father in law in Thailand has one, I don’t know the exact engine but it’s definitely a diesel. 2009. We drive it when we are there visiting. Plenty of interior room compared to the tacoma. Love that engine in that truck. 2 bad we cant have that here.
Thanks for the brief shot of my videos! I created my channel to document my adventures with my Tundra. Instead, it's turned into a platform for documenting the multiple issues the truck has been having. I will be posting an update soon. It's not good news... Keep telling it how it is!
i work for toyota HQ in plano, TX and i’m steering clear of turbos on trucks and SUVs. i have a MY24 4Runner in order and that’s my last tucks. my wife’s 2022 V6 highlander is a keeper too. it saddens me my employer’s reputation is being damaged. i hope Toyota ditched smaller displacements and gets back to V6 and V8 non-turbo on trucks and SUVs.
Yeah you just can't push a 3.4L engine in a big heavy truck by ramming air into the intake. I feel bad for the new 4Runner clientele who will have nearly a 6,000 pound SUV being pushed around by a 4-cylinder turbo, not to mention they claim it can tow 5,000 pounds on top of that. Think about that.....a 4 cylinder engine pulling around 11,000 pounds of metal. Yeah...that was a good idea. :/
@@willytrouble88this is exactly my point man. everyone keeps saying how reliable the turbo and hybrid engines are since they’ve been in use for yrs, to which i reply, yes…in their sedans. they’ve never been used in their trucks, which are typically used as workhorses. a 4 banger doing a lot of hauling is not ideal long term.
I just pulled the trigger on a 2024 4Runner ORP. This thing is built like a tank and has the most functional features I've ever had in any other SUV. Simple and reliable.
My 2023 Tundra blew up at 17,000 miles. Toyota fixed it, I sold it, and I got a 2024 4runner. Not gonna get another turbo toyota till i am convinced all is fixed.
EPA is destroying the auto market with insane regulations all designed to force people into the nightmare EV's that literally nobody in their right mind will buy.
💯 Spot On. I've had GMC, Cadillac, Ford, Dodge/Jeep Trucks. All showed excessive mechanical and structural fatigue and began nickel/diming me to death approaching 85k miles and beyond. My 14' Tundra, leagues above all mentioned in reliability and function. Sorely disappointed in the chatter about new Tundra reliability. Pains me to say I wouldn't touch a new one. Toyota knew their core customer and should have tested the holiness out of the new Tundra before unleashing it. Toyota deserves to suffer for this one. Also wouldn't purchase any American truck for half of what their asking... And still wouldn't waste my money then. They deserve to suffer more than Toyota. Sad market for truck buyers who depend on their ability to be a reliable work horse.
@@howebrad4601 In my experience, they are built for aesthetics, not the long haul. US manufacturers figured out decades ago how to make record profits, not just at the point of sale, but throughout the entire life cycle of a vehicle via subpar materials/engineering. Toyota, by contrast, built a global market off their reputation for reliable and well constructed vehicles that lasted infinitely longer. Likely why Toyota continues to pull market share(s) from gluttonous US manufactures. Some of whom, lest we forget, also enjoyed the privilege of our tax dollars/government bailouts. This is why to hear of Tundra engine problems is discouraging to those of us converts who grew tired of endless repair bill(s) and switched brands. Would hate to think Toyota is taking a page out of the US playbook. Hopefully this is a bump in the road for them, not a crater. Investing in the convenience of utterly reliable transportation is far greater than initially saving a few dollars on a more snazzily equipped American model to find myself loosing money over time in the shop month after month; which has been my experience. Merle Haggard sang a song in 1981 'Are the Good Times Really Over' that mentions building 'a Ford and Chevy to still last ten years like they should'. I used to be a die-hard GMC/Denali truck fan. It's not 2010 anymore, but brother IMO, Merle is just as right today as he was in 1981.
Thanks for posting. I get comments that say the same thing. I was considering buying one. I have a 2012 from 50k miles to it has 213k today. Great truck. ZERO problems. I mean just about nothing. Leaky valve cover, that's it.
I had a 2011 Tacoma for 13 years. Best vehicle I have ever owned hands down. The yearly repairs from lifting it became too much which was my fault from lifting it in the first place 11 years ago. It was a price to pay which I did not consider. I decided to return the middle finger to Toyota and bought a 2024 Frontier. Naturally aspirated V-6 fully loaded and rides very good. So far I am very pleased with it. Toyota hates the USA because they moved everything to Mexico and raised thier prices on top of that for more $$$. I am glad to know my Frontier is assembled in the USA. This country is failing and a lot of companies want the USA to fail which is why they are giving us the middle finger.
I'm retired from Toyota. I was one of the first persons hired at Georgetown (the first Toyota plant). The reason Toyota went down the drain is when NUMMI folded Toyota decided to keep all the GM managers and incorporate them into the true Toyota run TPS compliant management system. GM management is a STD and is quality adverse and Labor hostile which is short term profit driven. Also, Toyota went from family owned to a publicly traded company. When private there was a 20 year plan that was customer driven. Now it's just GM with the Toyota name as a con. To prove this just look at the quality. Toyota no longer is an entity. It's simply a name that hides a GM run company.
I have a 2005 Tacoma made in the Fremont CA (GM/Toyota) plant. Has been a great truck, but the items I've had to replace over the years all say AC Delco (GM). The only Toyota-branded parts replaced in 19 years of ownership (other than normal maintenance items) are the drive-shaft carrier bearing and a couple front CV-joints. Speaks to GM quality.
@@rocketmcgrain7947 Demming was turned down by all American manufacturers so Piggly Wiggley would not exist. They have a statue to him in Japan and his history is taught in elementary schools in Japan. Toyota developed matching tolerances not sorting or holding. Lexus followed Honda to get more money per ship. Nothing more. TPS recognizes its employees as assets and accounting fixed cost. Since they have no natural resources they used to figure net profit per employee instead of the US ton of steel. They also supported the union and pay the difference in salary when an employee is elected to a union office. Toyota puts the money in their pocket with holding companies period. The feds caught them buying 6mm weld nut that cost less than 2 cents for $6 .00 a piece. 300 nuts per car.
My neighbor has a 2018 Tundra. Taken in for repairs he got a 2024 as a loaner. He said it felt like it had less power, didn’t ride as well (!!), and didn’t seem to be as solid as his 2018.
I bought an LX 570 brand new in 2015. Today with a 150K miles on it, it runs like the day it came out of the showroom. My brother bought a Ford 250 diesel pick up truck in 2015 he still uses it for work everyday. I dont have faith in present day 4 banger turbo charged full size pu trucks
My first vehicle was an old tundra, I can’t remember the year and haven’t had it for a few years, but even when I sold it, it about 190k miles and I still see it around town and talk to the guy I sold it to
I was going to buy a tundra last year until i got there and seen they were charging a shipping fee+ 3k over msrp, with 7% interest! Went next door to gmc bought a diesel at4 for 8k under msrp 5 year 100k warranty and 1.99% i couldn’t be happier
So weird. I tried negotiating on a 4 runner at Orlando Toyota and they wanted 5;000 over sticker. I ended up getting it at a dealership in Jacksonville for much less. Some Toyota dealerships are very greedy.
We find ourselves living in the land of paying more, to get less, so none of this surprises me. I choose to drive a 1999 4WD GMC Suburban. In the 7 years I've owned it, I've put approximately $200 into it, for actual repairs, and most of those were by choice. It has, by far, been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. It has towed dozens of cars on a car trailer, a 6,000 lb horse trailer and countless loads of brush and logs to the local dump. It achieves 21 miles per gallon, highway, and is still on the original engine, transmission and transfer case at 200,000 miles, all of which still work flawlessly. SO tempting to go out and buy a $70,000 Toyota truck lol.
I put 212K on my 2014 Tundra1794 Edition. Drove it cross country probably 40 times. Never a single problem except the idler pulley needing to be replaced which I did myself for $110. That truck was bulletproof, and I put it through its paces, even with a 7" BDS lift on 37s. That truck was a dynamo. Sold it for 38K in May, 2021. I had a lot of superb aftermarket mods.
My 2006 Tundra just won’t die. I tow a 5x10 dump trailer up and down mountains at max towing capacity and it just keeps going. Would like to get a F250 for towing a dump trailer but the ole Tundra just won’t go away. The 2UZ-FE is a legend.
lol I just told my wife the same thing about my Sequoia with the 5.7. I told her it probably won’t die if I continue to actually perform maintenance on it and I’ll just be stuck with it forever. Not a bad thing I suppose.
One of the best decisions I ever made was ordering a 2021 TRD Pro double cab in January 2021 while I was still able to. I will be keeping this truck forever.
Really great video! I’m a technician that has rebuilt these engines at least 5 times now and I have tons of footage if you wanna make a follow up video.. I was scared to post my content because it’s a huge hit to my employer lmao
Lotsa “made in Mexico” hate in the comments. My 2012 5.7L tundra was made in Mexico. Totally amazing since the day I bought it brand new. Let’s not blame Mexico… bad engineering is bad engineering
This is true. we cannot blame the Mexicans for problems that are clearly designed related. however, sending work to be performed in Mexico is just a sign that the company is trying to cut costs. Quality control tends to not be as good down there
Modern production is modern regardless of where it’s made. Cummins diesel blocks have been cast in Brazil for 30 years and are phenomenal. If you pay people well and utilize state of the art equipment I don’t care where it’s made.
I have a 2023 Platinum, I haven't had any engine issues but my fuel gauge resets on its own when I park on an incline and they don't have a fix for it yet.
Couldn't agree more. All these new trucks are overcomplicated, overblown, and overpriced. It's a problem for all manufacturers, it just hurts more coming from Toyota because like you said "they used to build reliable cars" and they are currently taking advantage of that undeserved reputation to sell subpar vehicles at ultra premium prices. Truly a sad state of affairs.
All the manufacturers could have stopped making vehicles, told the government that they can't make reliable vehicles with their EPA mandates and told them no more vehicles until they fix their mandates. Instead they are looking at this transition to unreliable vehicles as a new cash cow. Screw that crap.
@@brontoab1 4 million people work in the auto manufacturing business and 5 others are effected indirectly. You want to cause a mass layoff that could cause a warzone if companies decide to fight the government. It's all a ploy
I’m going for a low mileage 2021. I love the 2012 5.7 that I’ve been running for the last 11+ years. Best pickup I’ve ever owned! Toyota would’ve been smart to only offer the V6 turbo as an option while still offering the tried and true 5.7 V8.
I’m also a Tundra owner, do yourself a favour and trade that abomination for an older Tundra or a F150 V8, those are much more reliable than this new Tundra. Your wallet and spare time will thank you.
toyota tundra forum has a spreadsheet of V35-FTS failure and out of 76 reported cases, seven were 2023 model, one 2024 and the rest is 2022. Three of the 2022 had failure twice. Definitely something happening at 2022 model. Also majority close to fifty of the cases had oil change at 10,000mi (which is not good). The rest of them that had 5000mi oil change, most of them again was 2022 models. Also detuned SR variant had three cases There was two LS500 and three or four LX600 case also. Have not heard anything about LC300 or Hybrid Sequoia interestingly. Now for the LC300 probably because those are sold in world markets primarily in diesel or 4.0L V6 out of a current 4Runner In these high performance turbo-engines I would change the oil every 5000km not 5000mi (so just over 3000mi)
As the owner of a 2021 Ford PowerBoost F150 Hybrid, I must admit I am still apprehensive about the longevity/reliability of my truck, even though I have 52+ thousand trouble-free miles on it. I bought it for the &.2 kW generator, and thus far I am not disappointed. Time will tell of the unit will prove a good buy, but I am sad to hear Toyota has failed so badly in their copycat effort. I have historically been a big fan of Toyota. A once great quality brand has fallen on their face with these new turbos. While not a MPG champion, the 5.7 V8 was a powerful, solid engine. RIP
I still have my 2000 Tundra Limited. 398,000 miles. Same tranny and engine. Oil change every 3000 and regular service on trans... I will not buy the new tundra with the new engine...V8 for life....
@@jimmy-buffett not really. The 2nd gen puts out 236 hp and 266 lb-ft. While the 3rd gen has 286 up and 265 lb-ft. Also, the max Rev torque is almost identical.
@@theaveragewoodsman6002 I've driven a 3rd gen on a long highway trip (Denver to Tucson), I've also owned the 4.0L from the 2nd gen in both an FJ and 4Runner. Numbers on paper is one thing, real world is another. And in the real world I found the 3rd gen Tacoma had a hard time maintaining 6th gear for highway cruising. But I live in Colorado at elevation, so we're down about 20% on horsepower up here. I'm sure the 3.5L is adequate at sea level.
My 2017 Limited double cab just rolled over 110,000 km and it still runs like the day I purchased it. I am never getting rid of it, it’s my dream machine. The new ones sound more like a nightmare.
The 5.7 Hemi Ram is also very reliable. Unfortunately, it too has gone by the wayside to be replaced by a straight six turbo. The 5.0 F150 is our last hope.
@@JokerG16you can order it still in any new ford truck you want as an “add on” option. and many folks ate starting to come to truth on the f150 v6 Turbo. I do not know, but I’d not be surprised at all if 5.0 were outselling the v6 turbos by now
Just found your page. Great videos. This isn't an issue with modern trucks. It's an issue with Toyota. It used to be that Toyotas may rust to high hell but at least they ran forever. At least the motors will fail about the time they rust out, which is a few years here in the rust belt.
I love my 2024 tundra，none of those issues so far，everything doing just what expectation as Toyota doing，I have 5 new Toyota now，2x2020 4runner，2019 highlander，2010 camery，2024 tundra，they all awesome vehicles！
2 years ago, my wife’s car broke down. Had to get her a new one. My original plan was to get a Tacoma 2024 since I paid my car and motorcycle this last January. Toyota priced me out. There is no way Im paying 65k + for the TRD Pro which is the one I wanted. I rather go with the Frontier and still I think is way too much money.
2001 4.7 tundra with 400k still running all original engine, trans and diff, just batteries, brakes, timing belts and wear items and 4k oil changes, trans fluid drain and fill every 2nd oil change . Most the miles were pulling a trailer loaded, added a spin on filter setup for the trans plus a double trans cooler and still not using oil, but shes out of the hard work runs now cuzz she earned it
All manufactures that ditched the v8 for the 6 have all had major issues, not only with the engine but also the transmission. That is why I bought my Tundra v8
Calling all Toyota Technicians. whether your agree or disagree with me, I'd love to chat with you (anonymously if requested). If you are interested in providing your perspective/images/videos or data on how many failures (or lack of failures) you see year over year at your dealership, I'm all ears. I am not trying to bash Toyota nor paint them as infallible. Email me at cars AT thecarguyonline.com to discuss further.
I've had my 2022 Tundra for over 2 years now. It has over 50k miles, 3,000 or so towing. Many miles of light to moderate off-roading. I've had no issues at all so far. My only complaint would be cabin noise at highway speeds, and some creaking on the interior parts when pushing on them.
I love my new tundra. Better than the competition in the half ton market!! I'd put my tundra up against any of the "big 3". Without hesitation
@@nathanfidler2009 Glad you like it, I hope it continues to be a good truck for you.
Toyota will either fix this issue or the Tundra will eventually lose sales like the Nissan Titan and eventually become discontinued via lack of sales.
@@TheCarGuyOnline better to just swap em with a 350 chevy L31 ALL NEW ! Vortec 96-02 350 L31 Crate Engine - IN STOCK. dual overhead cam engines=meh
Toyota fan boi here. As soon as I saw Toyotas vehicles becoming more advanced and complicated I knew their reliability was in question.
Yeah, I’m Toyota fanboy as well. I’m keeping my old Toyotas lol
Same, Toyota guy here.
They are now way to complicated.
The Nissan Frontier gets the same gas mileage and have a naturally aspirated V6!!! FOR LESS. WITH TWICE THE LENGTH OF WARRANTY.
My wife wants a new Tacoma. I'm seriously considering going with the Frontier while we can still get a V6, or buying a used V6 Tacoma.
I miss my 2004 Tacoma but frame rotted out. Couldn’t justify patching it. Opted for a used 2021 tundra trail edition with 25000 miles a few months ago that was not cheap (but affordable compared to new Toyota trucks) but have way more faith in that v8 than this new era of toyota.
Great advice at end of video and I agree.
It's time to abandon the concept of brand loyalty. No company cares about us the people, Toyota is just another corp that wants to make profit off of you and comply with governments/global org policies. My 2020 Camry had serious rattles and paint/rust issues from day one, serious cost cuts everywhere. I'm also going to stick to my 2021 Tundra until it dies, not going to touch their new product lines.
Your government won’t let manufacturers make a simple and reliable engine / vehicle. It will only get worse. Act accordingly.
This is 100000% on point and not enough people are saying it. Reliable vehicles actually have a smaller carbon footprint too.
The "government" made Toyota build an engine with 400 HP/Torque? And the biggest complaint with the previous engine was fuel mileage.
@@jimsomerville3924they don’t care about the mpg, because obviously, and to your point,the new engines don’t get any better gas mileage. It’s the emissions the government “cares” about. They’d rather put a smaller displacement engine with a turbo than have a naturally aspirated larger engine.
Keep up the good work Proho
@@douglowry7382 If the government cared about the environment, we would have small turbo diesels like all of Europe is using. If we burn less fuel, they get less taxes. The govt is incentivized to keep us buying vehicles that get bad mpg.
Toyota should have never gone away with the 5.7L.
@Bikes0420You shouldn't be buying a truck for gas mileage!
@@kellyriley7918I drive my truck a bunch for my business. The amount of gas I spend makes actually makes a difference
@Bikes0420 Yes, I have a 2008 and had a 2003, they're not great on gas but guess what, we don't care.
Yep, I LOVE ❤❤ that big V8, it’s a monster, smooth as glass and pulls like a freight train.
@Bikes0420No one who really uses their truck worries about gas mileage.
I remember Scotty Kilmer lamenting that Toyota was getting away from the 5.7 V8 and going to smaller turbo engines. He said they would never hold up or last, seems the man was right.
He’s always right because he does the shotgun technique. He can’t be wrong if he says EVERYTHING.
@@davidthomas2585 why i dont quote him
Scotty has EXPERIENCE. As do I. He and I are about the same age. Obviously he is in the car repair business main stream whereas I am a little less directly but do a lot with cars, light and heavy trucks.
Scotty is right. Turbos suck (yea I know they actually blow but that is beside the point) People do not know how to care for a turbo engine. When you floor it and red line as most male and some female Dilberts do at every red light the engine cannot take it. However if you unpack this further you see these are people beyond a certain age that drive the truck like sane people (not like Mario Andretti no disrespect meant) and they are still failing. Very strong forensic evidence the engine is a poor design, weak and destine to fail!
A PRODUCTION engine with an ALUMINUM block (remember production for weight and cost controls) is made to mass produce. Turbos in the past (60's maybe) were in exotic cars with engines designed, cast, and built up to take high revs (in excess of 8K) extreme boost and hard revving under boost.
This is a TOYOTA for the Lord's sake. NOT A FERRARI
I mean when did you last see a 2.5 million dollar Ferrari towing a boat!
Exactly so either lower people's expectations for the Toyota or build a super car engine for it.
Spun bearings fundamentally points toward a WEAK BLOCK under too much pressure. OK production mass produced block, possibly weak bottom end and DUAL FREEKIN TURBOS is a recipe for spun bearings.
Anybody with half sense and one eye should understand. If you glibly blow Scotty and even I off you will be marooned by the road with 10K~ miles and spun bearings..
Face it fan boys this engine is weak! WEAK WEAK WEAK. Cast iron block, heavy webs for the bearings large webs, 4 bolt mains and a 10 quart oil pan with a massive oil cooler maybe. But Aluminum block making all this HP and raging turbos the truck cannot survive. Physics as I told many people even before this truck started flowing out of the plants are against it.
Don't believe us just watch history has a way exonerating prophets like Scotty and if I may humbly say myself.
Scotty Kilmer is a shill, I'm amazed he hasn't gone the way of Wranglerstar.
For the record spun bearings are caused by incorrect crank fitment or oil starvation. Boost has nothing to do with it.
@@davidthomas2585 the shotgun technique should mean he's wrong half the time right? guess what, he NEVER IS. And he predicted this turbo stuff years ago, back when you didn't even know what a turbo was 😢
"If you hate money, buy one of these new trucks".
Truer words have never been spoken.
If you hate money, buy a truck, period.
Yep, doesn't matter the brand. And if you hate money even more, add more features to break!
I was a bit disappointed when I bought my truck that it didn't have LED lights, but I'll take a $20 or less bulb replacement over mandatory "replace the whole assembly" for $500+ because some water got in... Something that happens with vehicles, they are in nasty environments. Adding more tech just makes them more failure prone and more difficult to repair.
@@churchofmarcus My 2005 Toyota Tundra cost me $13,000 in 2014 with 95K miles on it. 10 years later and it's cost me nothing but a few preventative maintenance items to keep running like new. Best truck ever.
Trucks are insanely expensive to own, drive and maintain, period. It's these grown men who envy buy a large, expensive truck just as a commuter because they see other guys driving them. With fads like trucks, the modern American man is just like a woman.
Cool story.
In a society afflicted by an epidemic of dishonesty you my friend are a breath of fresh air. Thank you, keep doing it and don’t change.
Everything people hated about the Gen 2 & Gen 3 Tundra’s I loved. Delightfully unsophisticated but going hundreds of thousands of trouble free miles. V8, no giant computer screens to operate simple functions. Brilliant Toyota, brilliant.
Exactly.
I couldn’t agree more! I have a 2008 Tundra DC 4X4 with the 5.7L V8. I purchased it brand new in September 2008 with just 33 miles on the odometer. As of today (May 14, 2024) my truck has 133,644 trouble free miles. I only use Amsoil Signature 100% synthetic oil, which I change every 7500 miles, and I use Amsoil fluids (gear oil) for front/rear differential and transfer case. I love having an actual key, no silly looking iPad stuck to the dash, and 381 horses to get me the heck outta dodge! I only average 16.2 mpg (using cruise control on an old US highway, which is what I normally drive on) but I’ll take 16.2 and my 5.7’s reliability over a push button start, iPad stuck to the dash turbo POS that won’t last 15 years!
@@TheTundraDude57 My buddy calls my 2016 a dinosaur. He looses his mind every time he gets in it because it doesn't have push button start! Long after his Audi has been recycled into and appliance, my tundra will still be rolling down the road.
Is agree
Tru dat
"First Year" is no longer an excuse. It's now called neglect.
Don’t they test these trucks in the field before they make them? I hope they fix.
GM has used the consumer as a test bed for generations. Ford tested the ecoboost in the baja 1000 after running that engine on a dyno for 100k miles, testing at full GCWR with trailer at speed at nascar track for 24 hours stopping only for tires and gas. And that was after years of engineering work
@@workingcountry1776 Took the words right out of my mouth. Toyota, in my eyes, fired the QC department and threw the responsibility of fixing it as they go onto the consumer. Then only warranty 20%, leaving the rest of its base disgruntled and unwilling to ever buy Toyota again.
No it's called the EPA gone wild.
@@duncancampbell5761 You cant blame the EPA for Toyota QC!
Never heard of your channel before, that being said, this is one of the most honest, intelligent, salt of the Earth, regular guy videos I have heard in a long time.
My EXACT sentiments you have listed, issue by issue. We have no debt, buy used but sanitary and do our research. I paid cash for our 2017 Tundra, 2018 Outback and 2018 Tacoma. Like I said, we do our research, buy used, but clean vehicles and the sellers find it peculiar when I pull out my creeper, headlamp and tool bag and start snooping around under the vehicle.
“If you don’t have the title, in the safe, in your house, you don’t own the truck” - truer words have never been spoken. Lol
A title? Never more! It's the latest spiffy, neat, super cool deluxe feature of predatory disaster/crony/vulture crapitalism. You will own NOTHING: Not your house, your vehicle, your music, videos or software. Just keep paying. Month after month... forever.
In line with that, most folks who don't pay cash have no idea how much they're paying.
I have had the title to my Tundra since day one.
If you have to pay property taxes on the house then you own neither…
@@Support_Ad_BlockerMove to Russia, where your progressive ideas can truly flourish.
Glad I bought my 2019 Pro when I did. Everyone was complaining that the 5.7 was outdated...well, now you have it.
The used 5.7L are starting to hold value better than the new 2022+...it's interesting.
Same here, I bought a 2019 limited 4x4 and the price was almost the same as a Tacoma because everyone was worried about the price of gas. $45k with 0%, I made last payment a few months ago. 90k miles and not one problem. I hope I can make this truck last a long time, those kinds of deals are long gone, and I'll never be able to afford another truck, any make. It doesn't feel outdated to me, heated seats and led headlights, best truck I have ever owned.
I had 2 of the 5.7 and they were incredible motors
I love my 2019 Tundra TRD Sport DC in mag grey. I will keep it for a very long time.
Exactly. The people who complain about the Toyota engines being outdated are not Toyota customers in the first place. Loyal Toyota customers didn't care, we wanted reliability. My 5.7L V8 Tundra has 300k on it.
Once I determined you weren’t a shill, I subbed.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!! Bring back the 5.7!!!
They can’t. With the new government emissions regulations they have to meet. The v6 turbos put out half of the emissions of a v8
@@kyleginder1322 Ford, Dodge, and Chevy are still making V8s so there must be someway around it. I have a 14 Tundra but thinking about going to a F-250 for my next truck.
@@cournell08 Yea they are using cylinder deactivation. Basically when you dont need the extra power the v8 goes down to 4 or 6 cylinders. Im not sure about about Ford but I know GM has had some problems with engines from the cylinder deactivation.
@roadieman209 mine has been good to me. 220K miles and not a single issue. Regular oil changes and replaced a cv axle.
yeah theyre right. it will never happen with the future emiission goals they are federally mandated to meet. the next thing you will see are only electric trucks. give it a decade
Something happened since Covid. Everything everywhere went to crap. Even replacement auto parts are a joke these days. It's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get.
That's because people care less and less about the longevity of everything being manufactured today. The society's rotting has been accelerating on all levels, from car mechanics to elected presidents.
Maybe if we put a mask on our trucks and give it a vaccine the trucks will be healthy. Oh crap, my truck now has myocarditis
Something happened since Covid. That thing is Biden.
You are very correct! I worked in auto parts for the past 15 years. (Napa if anyone wants to know), and during and after COVID, quality is pathetic. Supply chain, worker shortage, people paid to stay home, whatever excuse was given, quality plummeted and has not rebounded. Parts we sold that never had issues, were coming in missing pieces, defective, or boxed entirely incorrectly. We even received oil filters with no gaskets and some without even having threads cut in them. It was unreal the crap we saw. Like I said, I had 15 years and from 2019-2023, I saw more problems, and quality issues than in all the rest of the years combined. I switched careers mid '23 and from talking to my old coworkers, they're still seeing issues. I'm afraid quality is gone for good.
What happened was corporations found out they could reduce quality while increasing prices and people will still buy.
I work for a Toyota dealership in southern ontario. We currently have two master technicians doing 35 hours jobs replacing the short blocks. We have three Tundras 2024 needing rear windows replaced. Additionally there is a recall for premature tire wear on the lifted 2024 tundras.
Scotty Kilmer said "The new Toyota's are crap, don't buy them!
Good ol Scotty
Next month he will be singing a diffirent tune
Scotty is a flip flipper. He does anything for clicks.
Kilmer is an idiot.
I don’t know why anyone listens to him.
Scotty Kilmer has a 70iq but he is correct this time.
Im a Toyota Master technician and we do multiple engines a week on the new Tundras (2022+). The rest come in with 10+ complaints each time they come in for one of their many many recalls.
If you ever feel like connecting let me know. I'd keep your identity safe. I really want to talk to techs like you to figure out how prevalent this is across the country. My guess is the public only gets to see 15% or so of what goes on behind those doors, and what you are saying aligns with that. I'm at cars@thecarguyonline.com if you want to connect :).
My 2022 Tundra has had 3 recalls. I wasn't affected by the tonneau cover one.
1) The electronic parking break
2) fuel line fire hazard
3) lunging forward when shifting to neutral.
My truck has over 50k miles and I'm very pleased so far. The only thing you'll hear me complaining about it cabin noise at highway speeds.
I did those three recalls / campaigns on a '23 tundra on Friday. For these things I understand the annoyance. There is , however no updated software for main bearing failure. Change your engine oil at short intervals and say a prayer. @@MountainManBran
And are you repairing them with the same parts that failed or upgraded parts that will last
That’s so depressing
Their first mistake, and it was a huge one, was taking the V-8 out of the Tundra and taking the V-6 out of the Tacoma.
Wish inline 6s were more common
Thanks for being real unlike TRDJon and TFL. I can’t stand them anymore.
TFL used to be great until they got hit with a timeout by Ford for a bad review and then chose politics over sense with EV’s. They edit out some much now to protect brands and tiptoe around issues.
@@PM_Doug TFL has been caught multiple times shilling for Ford thanks to the aggressive online influencing of Mike Levine. TFL didn't waste time to report on a lawsuit against GM for their 8-speed problems, but when the F-150 began to have tons of problems with the 10-speed and got sued by the same law firm, TFL didn't say a single thing. Toyota is also extremely aggressive. Toyota did everything they could to minimize the issues they experienced with the 4th gen Tacoma and they never dare mention engine failures when covering the Tundra. If you put out negative coverage of Toyota products, they will blacklist you. Ask Ben Hardy.
I downgraded TFL from a *BLACK BELL* to a white bell on notices.
But I blocked *"Automotive Press"* from showing up on my channel.
The dude is a total "shill" for Toyota even dances round, Letting us know the price of these total pieces of junk . 💩💩💩
Didn’t TFL break their brand new Tacoma and cover all of what happened with the repair?
@@marcochavanne yeah but they weren’t mad. they just said “well, we bought one of the first batches so things like that happen i guess”…paraphrasing ofc.
People need to ABANDON the concept of brand loyalty. They are all corporations whos end goal is to make profits, save money, cut costs, and comply with governments/global orgs. I've been only buying Toyota/Lexus cars for the last decade and currently drive one too (2020 V8 Tundra, best truck I've ever owned). After owning a clicky and rattly 2020 Camry for 4 years I realized how poor Toyota's build quality has become, as the brakes on that car also went out at 13K miles due to cheap rotors.
Wdym the brakes "went out"?
I've owned nothing but Toyotas since 2016, 4 Tundras as well as a Prius, 2 RAV4's, a top tier Camry V-6 XSE, and a Highlander Platinum...All with ZERO PROBLEMS!!! ALL except the Prius built in Japan, were American built. I'll stick with Toyota Trucks. I just purchased a 2020 Hyundai Sante Fe Limited, built in Alabama, and expect good things from it as well. If it performs well I may start getting Hyundai's for smaller vehicles, but sticking with Toyota for trucks & minivans.
@@Bush63Master I may never buy a hyundai/kia, they made 10s-100s of thosands of engines wrong and they would blow up early. Know a guy at a dealer who has probably changed 100s under warranty... Many say the new turbo tundras are pos trucks too.
@connor3288 I hear ya...but I'm speaking of my own personally verifiable experiences, and my sister & her husband have run nothing but Hyundai for the past 8 years. With no issues. Whether or not others run into issues is noteworthy, but not knowing how they actually drive and maintain their vehicles, because when people complain their always the best drivers, and meticulous with their maintenance, without exception, and refusing to acknowledge their own faults in creating/exacerbating the failures. I always buy top tiers, which tend to have better parts & more stringent assembly & quality control processes. Even the best have lemons that escape, but Toyota is typically one of the best. Time will tell.
@@connor3288 Premature warped rotors at 13K miles then they somehow rusted through, even dealer service manager admitted the ones I got were trash and defective. Our 2007 Camry factory rotors lasted 70K and still felt decent.
I’m a mechanic shop owner. It’s not just the 3.4 turbo engine that is having issues. It seems to be the trend with newer Toyotas. 1.5 oil consumption issues, and 1.8 Prius camshaft issues, 2.4 Camry & highlanders, & 2.5 oil consumption issues. In fact Toyota has always had issues. Toyota just does a good job hiding it. It’s not just engines either. Ball joint problems, crap shocks, rust issues, weatherstripping issues, blower motor issues, clockspring issues, etc
Oil consumption issues, is it because of the low friction position rings?
I have a 2.4 Sonata runs great burns 2/3 was every 1k. But just did the B12 Piston soak. And it seems promising as after 500 miles I don’t see much change in oil level.
I agree with you 100%. The Toyota Loyalists are blind to the fact that their trucks also have problems....
So just like the big three have been for years lol
@@joestrait6291 So their so called reliablity....was nothing but bullsh#t.
Yep my Corolla cross shake like a mad man highly maintained only 15k miles I got rid of it hate cars that shake my gf 15 old corillla shake nothing and she k my change oil
Imagine if the first 22 tundra owners with blown engines got the TFL treatment. Instead of quibbling over warranties, fighting claims, and parts cannoning short blocks, they just sent a whole crate motor to the dealer, swapped the entire engine and shipped the bad engines back to engineering where in a controlled environment could have torn down the whole engine and found the root problem.
Who the hell wants a new truck that has been completely torn apart by some garage monkey? I would refuse to take it back.
Absolutely, the dealerships do not have technicians sufficiently skilled to do a complete engine tear down. It’s not their core business. Disaster to follow if they split the engines at the dealership
Absolutely correct sir, I recently retired from the auto service business and unfortunately these highly stressed government compliant engines will not last. Take the new Tundra, you have to remove the cab to service the turbos and the cab never sets back down correctly. It's so easy to pinch a wire etc. no matter how careful the mechanic is. The first years those actuators were failing all the time on the turbos. They are going to be throw away trucks and cars.
Man that is insane they have to remove the cab to work on the turbo!
😊
The cabs don’t have to be removed to service turbos. We’ve serviced them. Driver side is definitely more difficult, but turbo r&r takes our guys about 6 hours.
@@JayMak1963people who have no idea what they're talking about are so confident in what they say lol
@@JayMak1963That's not saying much for Toyota frames ehh 🍭
Hey I agree 100% this was the specific reason I purchased my 2019 Tundra 1794 was that it has the 5.7 V8. I saw everyone else gravitating towards turbos and figure Toyota would do the same. Now I'm so happy I have the last truck I will ever buy parked in my driveway with a naturally aspirated V8. Great callout my friend!!
I did the same thing (after Scotty Kilmer's warning about the new Toyota TT V6). My 2021 Tundra will bury me.
I know a lot of people hate on the German brands, but I have been a VW tech for ten years. It’s rare to find a VW engine with catastrophic engine failure but when we do find it and it’s under warranty, they replace the LONG BLOCK assembly and if it’s turbocharged, they have us replace the turbo too. Everything and anything that’s in the oiling circuit. There’s no way to know where that metal debris went and they won’t risk a repeat repair.
That’s how it should be done. The is for sharing
You are spot on with Toyota getting the popular UA-camrs to go on record how wonderful these crappy cars really are. Some who are telling the truth are no longer invited to Toyota affairs.
Shucks, 😢 no longer gonna be invited to the party 🎉😮🎉
I stopped buying Toyotas so they aren't invited to my garage anymore. They have no claim to their original reputation of reliability. The 2024 and up pricing/ridiculous design philosophy is aimed at ignorant fanboys who were never around during the good days of Toyota.
@@Scroll_Lockmy issue is mostly their horrible dealers who exist with minimal oversight of corporate and effectively work for their independent regional distributor…in my case the insane Gulf States Toyota markups, and then dealer markups on top.
This truly shakes my confidence in toyota. Scotty kilmer was warning this turbo 6 would be a bad mistake years ago. He was right.
Today is a win for the UA-cam algorithm. No idea how I stumbled on your channel, but this is highly relevant and awesome information. Keep up the good work, my friend.
I don't often hear "win for the algorithm" but I'll take it :). Glad it helped.
What made Toyota reliable in the past was their naturally aspirated engines but now that they got rid of those engines and are offering only turbo/hybrid engines they just became like German manufacturers. What that means is that their vehicles will not be reliable compared to their past history.
Modern turbo engines are just about as reliable as N/A engines when properly cared for. A lot of people don't know how to properly drive turbo engines and do nonsense like lug it under stress, go way over the oil change interval, etc. My 2020 civic si's puny lil 1.5 turbo is coming up on 80k miles and the engine still looks/functions like new because it's actually maintained. One thing that's true and kinda sucks is that we're no longer able to neglect maintance like past NA engines but I'll take that trade-off for more torque and better gas mileage.
80k is a joke for a barely broken engine...the 1.5 is a high strung engine and initial ones had oil dilution which is said to have been fixed but you won't know until you send it to the lab for analysis. Not saying they are grenades but they won't last as long as an NA even with diligent maintenance.
@sporkybutterz completely incorrect. it's actually not high strung at all, very low compression and low boost from factory but the crazy part is how many people are running ktuners pushing over 22lbs of boost and regularly hitting over 150k with zero issues aside from the weak stock clutch. Also the oil dilution problem is largely a thing of the past and was only an issue in cooler areas. Back to my main point, although the new tundra engine does seem to have issues, the new tacoma engine is been in use for about a decade now in lexus models with zero issues. If we were talking about a Chrysler, Ford or bmw product, I'd say you're right to worry but the Japanese turbos are largely solid as evidence shows.
@@sporkybutterz you are right- he should be speaking after 500,000 on his 1.5 L engine
If only people understood what they were talking about, Toyota takes years to develop something so it works, sure there are early problems but in the long run it will be just as reliable.
I drive a 2014 Tundra. Bought it used with 11,000 miles on it in 2017 for $32k. It's not flashy or head turning, etc. I do routine maintenance on it, but really nothing else. It runs like my 1998 Tacoma V-6 did that had well over 200,000 miles on it when I traded it in on the Tundra. No reliability issues at all. I'm not a mechanic, but I am smart enough to hang onto my 2014 with a V-8 for years to come. I just subscribed to your channel. Look forward to more content in the future.
Thanks for the sub, that Tundra should last you a loooooong time.
I’ve got a 2024 platinum tundra with under 500 miles and it is in the shop for a defective transmission!!
Damn
All I know is about the engine problems, not the transmission. 🤔
You mean the recall where the reflash the programming?
@@stevieray1828 No not a recall the whole entire transmission is considered defective and being replaced . I’m in talks with Toyota head quitters about a buy back or a new replacement truck . More worse the truck has been at the shop for over a month waiting on parts on back order and after they supposedly finally got the parts and went to do the job now that said the new transmission didn’t come with the torque converter which that thought it would so now have to wait longer for that part to come in & im in Hawaii and they are sending everything on the barge (slow boat ) which takes for ever . 70k truck and auto loan payments and insurance bills All just to have a Brand new truck sit on there lot with the rest of the other ones they can’t sell !! Completely Ridiculous!!!
What issue did your transmission have? My 2024 tundra makes a quick slip when going into certain gears like you feel a small knock when it engages to a certain gear. My brother's defective silverado did the same thing and it was the transmission going out. My truck only has 8000 miles I'm thinking about going to the dealer to see what's going on because it's concerning
@@dethtour my trans was Making a ticking noise while it was in park just running .
This is why I love my 2020 4Runner. The classic 4.0 engine and transmission combo built like a tank.
Amen brotha!
I too love my 4.7 V8 4runner and sequoia! Million miles engines
I recently bought a 2024 Tundra. The dealer explicitly stated to me that the crankshaft bearing problem was fixed for 2024. He was underinformed or lying. The 2024s are blowing up, just like the 2023/2022s, and now there are reports of 2025's blowing up!
I suspect that Toyota hasn't extended the 2022/2023 engine recall to the 2024s until they have sold the 2024s off their lots. Great Company!
Obviously, the bearing problem is not completely explained by debris left in during forging in Alabama and Japan. It is a metallurgical problem with the bearing.
Toyota changed the Part # of the #1 bearing in April 2024. That bearing change might be "the fix." If so, there are lots of 2024 Tundras at risk.
Instead of focusing on engineering, Toyota has focused on complicated, expensive trim items. Remember "new Coke", which was supposed to be better than old Coke?
Below, please find a great analysis of the bearing problem by the Car Care Nut!
ua-cam.com/video/EyI4ujjxxuk/v-deo.htmlsi=kjGux5M
Nissan should really be taking advantage around all this Toyota bad press lately
Funny you say that, the Frontier is selling great, almost as many Q1 sales as the Taco which is crazy…
I agree. How should Nissan go about capitalizing on this?
An advertising blitz?
Bring in lots of Frontiers? My dealer has 1 Frontier and it's been there for over a month.
I just don't know what Nissan should do?
Frontier still has issues with the transmission and the Titan has quality issues but not many.
That’s a damn shame they killed the Titan. Because they could’ve stolen dodge and Toyota full size customers: you can have any full size truck from us as long as it’s a V8
@@PumpUPdaBase yup! Agreed
It’s not Toyota that’s doing this, it’s Toyota America. The Toyota CEO in Japan stated that he was tired of electric and hybrid vehicle problems and was no longer interested in making them.
Do you have a link to this report?
Not hybrid, he’s doubling down on hybrid…their hybrids are some of the most reliable vehicles you can buy
Yep, if yiu buy a built in Japan Toyota or Mazda...it is leagues better
Sad that we can't get it together here in America
guys are watching ticktok videos as they build these here 😂😂😂 This isn't Japanese quality 100%
I'll hang onto my 2006 Tundra for a little while longer, thank you very much.
Same here. Love my 2006 tundra sr5. I'll be hanging on to it. Only 126,000 miles. I'm good!
Best year tundra
Pretty soon this channel will have a disclaimer put in by google and wikipedia saying trust the science.
Fact check true
Turbos do not cause myocarditis.
Ah, the mark of "story confirmed".
I literally thought that same thing where he says "small UA-cam channel like mine" while speaking the truth = how to be a big UA-camr= how to get in the lens of lawyers. It's a vicious cycle of who/what you can trust 🤣
Yeah, the Blue context thingy.
Toyota is screwing people over now.
Your government is. Emissions buddy.
@@dethtour Yep. The stupid decisions are coming from the top.
Yep from the top
I have a 2013 Tundra with 95k on it and a dealer lifetime powertrain warranty. 🤔It's been a great truck, so it sounds like I am keeping it. Thank you for the video. I had been thinking about replacing it, but not now.
Dude your Killing it with info ! Awesome job telling the truth ! You should have 100,000 subscribers before Long !
Appreciate it :)
Love this video! Just validated my purchase of a 2021 Tundra with 32000 mile. Thing looks brand new and I got a good deal! So happy with this truck, drive train is smooth as glass.
My 97 4Runner with the reliable v6 and manual transmission never let me down. I’m almost pushing 400k. Original engine and transmission
387k on my 3RZ 4runner. Though now I started dailing my 98 5VZ 5- speed with 180k miles. Things going to last me literally forever.
I just bought a beautiful 98 Silverado Z71 with 94K on it. When the power train goes, I’ll replace it. No active fuel management, no turbos No BS! Not paying 70 grand for a half ton truck. Especially one that has a $32,000 engine!
Vortec 5.7 for the win!
I got a 98 C1500 with the 5.7 only 120,000 miles on it all original I love the OBS Chevys and I’m a ford guy.
01 GMC 2500 8.1 with allison trans. 380000 trouble free miles since new. Will never buy a new truck again. I can completely rebuild this truck for a fraction of the cost of a new one.
pattern failures on them are well doccumented and ez to fix. G80 rear will fail if it hasnt already, 4L60E is a flimsy transmission for towing but motor w/ syn oil is very reliable for hundreds of thousands of miles.
@@workingcountry1776 all things that are easy fixes. They cost money of course but nothing near what a new truck does.
100% truth. Used to work for Toyota. Product is not the same!
I'm a big Toyota fan myself. My first 2001 Toyota Tacoma 2wd SR5 lasted 325,000 miles. Just basic maintenance. I 100% agree with you. No turbo bs
Something is seriously wrong when I can use the words "my 2016 Silverado 5.3 is more reliable than a Toyota". Toyota, get back on track...
My reply from Toyota over wind noise and air leaks.
Hi Jay. We were able to get in touch with the Service Manager. After the additional diagnosis, they were able to confirm that the wind noise was consistent across all the Tundras that were tested, therefore, it's been considered to be a characteristic of the vehicle.
Translated: "We designed this poorly and yours is no worse than the rest of our garbage, deal with it". What a joke...Sorry you are having these issues.
My 2022 Highlander has more wind noise than my 2012 Highlander.
I’m having issues with my 2021 Highlanders transmission. Toyota is falling apart lol
"Within spec"
Seems like Toyota is taking a note from Tesla
Wind noise, really? Give me a break. Trucks are luxury vehicles now
Feel the same way you do, I have a 2018 Tundra 5.7 Platinum, will be keeping it verse purchasing anything else. You are right on the money.
Bought a 23 Nissan Titan pro4x instead had it a year with 20k miles and love it more and more
Frontier for me. Used to want a Tacoma
Good luck. I had two of those new back to back 2018. Both failed and got rid of them.
Nissan is shit now.
The Nissan Titan & Frontier are solid. Sadly a lot of ppl go with a different brand.
@@TacoMonster4eva I disagree I had a 2014 Xterra for 7 years before this TItan and a new 2005 Tacoma before and The Toyota was a lemon not to mention the quality was not up to par as the Nissans.
Everybody is shitting on Toyota, and rightfully so. However. Does anybody remember back in 2015, when the Tundra was consistently top of the resale value hierarchy, and then within a matter of 1 month, Tundras were popping up on car gurus for 9k under “book” value…
The Toyota philosophy of building reliability over time, was “boring”…
All of a sudden the Tundra was unwanted. Even though you could damn near pour nails in the gas tank, and it would still start, every time.
Auto mags were slamming it for being “out dated” and “behind the curve”… Well. This is what you get.
The American Market, (and retarded EPA standards), killed the Tundra we all loved.
That classic 5.7 was boring, to American buyers. The 6 speed was last decade.
And the Tundra didn’t sell.
And the used Tundras, (despite out lasting everything on the market by 300k miles), weren’t being purchased.
So Toyota changed their strategy. To appeal to the American market… Which does not align with what we loved about the Toyota way of building vehicles.
It’s the same trend that killed Pontiac, Chevrolet, and every other reliable, affordable, vehicle of yesteryear.
Remember that.
We voted with our dollars. We wanted bigger touch screens. Panda massaged leather, heated/cooled/lumbar detecting/osteoporosis detecting seats..
We killed Toyota.
America is the ONLY market for Full size Toyota trucks.
We asked them to produce the same BULLSH*T, the big 3 have been vomiting the past decade.
And we got it.
Toyota is a trillion dollar company. Something. Probably the largest production in the world. They had record profits this past year. They will be fine.
Well said, Sir!!!
@@itsallminor6133 I don’t think you understood. Yes they will continue to make money. They’ll just be doing it the same way Ford, Ram, and Chevy do.
Producing flashy bs that breaks within a few years.
The Old Kaizen philosophy Toyota built their trucks with is dead.
It’s no longer about being reliable or affordable.
That’s taken a distant back seat to bells and other shiny bs.
And that’s exactly what the American market begged them to do.
Now everybody is turning heal and pointing out issues with the new Tundra not being robust, reliable, or affordable like the last gen..
And largely it’s the same people who absolutely sh*t on the old Tundra for years, for being so boring.
If the old Tundra had sold like the F-150, or Ram even.
We’d be seeing a very different Tundra now I suspect.
Amen to that!
All the guys on UA-cam like tfl and the rest of them kept saying that Tundra was outdated the powertrain was old heck that was the best thing about the Tundras. That's why I bought the one I have, no turbos and no displacement on demand (afm).
I was looking for a truck last year and was looking at the new tundras. Almost bought one. But as i was about to pull the trigger, a 2018 1795 edition tundra popped up. I jumped on it and now its in my driveway. Swapped out the stereo and looking to put new rims on it. It will be my forever truck.
Thanks for putting honest info out.
Bought 2000 Tundra, 2004 LX470, and 23 4R - all when new. Still have all of them and will not buy anything with turbo or small engine.
Toyota is doing a good job burying the issues in the search engines.
I can't imagine a lot of these new vehicles being around and operating properly in 20-25 years like the vehicles you have...but maybe I'm wrong.
I miss my 2003 Tundra. I bought it new and had to let it go last year. Twenty years and 275,000 miles of dependable service. Had the V8 iforce engine.
I have a 2019 SR5. Bought brand new, going on 5 years. Not one single problem!
I would never accept a replaced motor under warranty, if you buy a new truck ripping it half apart and putting it together was never part of the deal or why you buy it
Is there a way to make the dealership or manufacturer buy the truck back instead of putting a new engine in? Just curious because I’d never accept anew engine replacement in a brand new truck.
@@johnh9677 Lemon law is probably the only way.
I bought a new SR5 Tundra in 2017 with the 5.7L and the 38 gallon gas tank. It now has 41k and it is the best truck I ever owned!
Don't ever let it go :)
I bought my 2017 SR5 used in 2019 with 22k miles for $38k and absolutely love it... The only work it has needed is just normal maintenance... Recently did brakes for the first time at 60k miles and just upgraded the sound system and that's all it has needed... I plan on keeping it as long as possible which may be forever. My first ever Toyota was a 1981 shortbed SR5 4x4 that had almost 500k miles when I sold it.... It's a shame where things appear to be heading with Toyota...
I find it difficult to believe the new Taco will last 500,000 miles without major issues
@@danw.3291 Great trucks. Wish I hadn't sold my 2017 but 4 kids was a tough fit in there....
And I’m sure you knew this was coming.
I was in South East Asia and had the opportunity to rent a Toyota hilux Revo with the 4 cylinder 2.8 liter diesel engine. Drove like a v6 sedan and got 29 mpg.
My father in law in Thailand has one, I don’t know the exact engine but it’s definitely a diesel. 2009. We drive it when we are there visiting. Plenty of interior room compared to the tacoma. Love that engine in that truck. 2 bad we cant have that here.
Thanks for the brief shot of my videos! I created my channel to document my adventures with my Tundra. Instead, it's turned into a platform for documenting the multiple issues the truck has been having. I will be posting an update soon. It's not good news... Keep telling it how it is!
i work for toyota HQ in plano, TX and i’m steering clear of turbos on trucks and SUVs. i have a MY24 4Runner in order and that’s my last tucks. my wife’s 2022 V6 highlander is a keeper too.
it saddens me my employer’s reputation is being damaged. i hope Toyota ditched smaller displacements and gets back to V6 and V8 non-turbo on trucks and SUVs.
Yea pretty disappointing… Toyotas name is taking a huge hit
Yeah you just can't push a 3.4L engine in a big heavy truck by ramming air into the intake. I feel bad for the new 4Runner clientele who will have nearly a 6,000 pound SUV being pushed around by a 4-cylinder turbo, not to mention they claim it can tow 5,000 pounds on top of that. Think about that.....a 4 cylinder engine pulling around 11,000 pounds of metal. Yeah...that was a good idea. :/
@@willytrouble88this is exactly my point man. everyone keeps saying how reliable the turbo and hybrid engines are since they’ve been in use for yrs, to which i reply, yes…in their sedans. they’ve never been used in their trucks, which are typically used as workhorses. a 4 banger doing a lot of hauling is not ideal long term.
@JokerG16 they have been used in the forerunner back then.
@@mad-meh2719 4 banger hybrid/turbo?
I just pulled the trigger on a 2024 4Runner ORP. This thing is built like a tank and has the most functional features I've ever had in any other SUV. Simple and reliable.
Tried and true
My 2023 Tundra blew up at 17,000 miles. Toyota fixed it, I sold it, and I got a 2024 4runner. Not gonna get another turbo toyota till i am convinced all is fixed.
EPA is destroying the auto market with insane regulations all designed to force people into the nightmare EV's that literally nobody in their right mind will buy.
Just like Nissan automatic transmission it never going to get those right.
What went wrong with yours? I have a 23' as well with 13K miles.
Turbos are the "new" scam to convince you to buy a V6. Ram is doomed too.
@@doctordetroit4339copium. Turbos are superior
💯 Spot On. I've had GMC, Cadillac, Ford, Dodge/Jeep Trucks. All showed excessive mechanical and structural fatigue and began nickel/diming me to death approaching 85k miles and beyond. My 14' Tundra, leagues above all mentioned in reliability and function. Sorely disappointed in the chatter about new Tundra reliability. Pains me to say I wouldn't touch a new one. Toyota knew their core customer and should have tested the holiness out of the new Tundra before unleashing it. Toyota deserves to suffer for this one.
Also wouldn't purchase any American truck for half of what their asking... And still wouldn't waste my money then. They deserve to suffer more than Toyota. Sad market for truck buyers who depend on their ability to be a reliable work horse.
Gm trucks have improved massively. It's not 2010 anymore
Where did the American manufacturers touch you?
@@wadewilson6628 My Wallet
@@howebrad4601 In my experience, they are built for aesthetics, not the long haul. US manufacturers figured out decades ago how to make record profits, not just at the point of sale, but throughout the entire life cycle of a vehicle via subpar materials/engineering. Toyota, by contrast, built a global market off their reputation for reliable and well constructed vehicles that lasted infinitely longer. Likely why Toyota continues to pull market share(s) from gluttonous US manufactures. Some of whom, lest we forget, also enjoyed the privilege of our tax dollars/government bailouts. This is why to hear of Tundra engine problems is discouraging to those of us converts who grew tired of endless repair bill(s) and switched brands. Would hate to think Toyota is taking a page out of the US playbook. Hopefully this is a bump in the road for them, not a crater.
Investing in the convenience of utterly reliable transportation is far greater than initially saving a few dollars on a more snazzily equipped American model to find myself loosing money over time in the shop month after month; which has been my experience.
Merle Haggard sang a song in 1981 'Are the Good Times Really Over' that mentions building 'a Ford and Chevy to still last ten years like they should'.
I used to be a die-hard GMC/Denali truck fan.
It's not 2010 anymore, but brother IMO, Merle is just as right today as he was in 1981.
Thanks for posting. I get comments that say the same thing. I was considering buying one. I have a 2012 from 50k miles to it has 213k today. Great truck. ZERO problems. I mean just about nothing. Leaky valve cover, that's it.
Yeah I've got a 2008 Sequoia, same thing, 230k and only replaced the starter so far. Great platform for reliability.
I had a 2011 Tacoma for 13 years. Best vehicle I have ever owned hands down. The yearly repairs from lifting it became too much which was my fault from lifting it in the first place 11 years ago. It was a price to pay which I did not consider. I decided to return the middle finger to Toyota and bought a 2024 Frontier. Naturally aspirated V-6 fully loaded and rides very good. So far I am very pleased with it. Toyota hates the USA because they moved everything to Mexico and raised thier prices on top of that for more $$$. I am glad to know my Frontier is assembled in the USA. This country is failing and a lot of companies want the USA to fail which is why they are giving us the middle finger.
Awesome, I just drove a 2024 frontier with my dad today, very nice truck. Will be reliable too…
I did the exact same thing. I love my new frontier. It’s a keeper
Wow! I haven't read so much truth in a single paragraph in a long time. Respect.
I'm retired from Toyota. I was one of the first persons hired at Georgetown (the first Toyota plant). The reason Toyota went down the drain is when NUMMI folded Toyota decided to keep all the GM managers and incorporate them into the true Toyota run TPS compliant management system. GM management is a STD and is quality adverse and Labor hostile which is short term profit driven. Also, Toyota went from family owned to a publicly traded company. When private there was a 20 year plan that was customer driven. Now it's just GM with the Toyota name as a con. To prove this just look at the quality. Toyota no longer is an entity. It's simply a name that hides a GM run company.
I have a 2005 Tacoma made in the Fremont CA (GM/Toyota) plant. Has been a great truck, but the items I've had to replace over the years all say AC Delco (GM). The only Toyota-branded parts replaced in 19 years of ownership (other than normal maintenance items) are the drive-shaft carrier bearing and a couple front CV-joints. Speaks to GM quality.
@@rocketmcgrain7947 Demming was turned down by all American manufacturers so Piggly Wiggley would not exist. They have a statue to him in Japan and his history is taught in elementary schools in Japan. Toyota developed matching tolerances not sorting or holding. Lexus followed Honda to get more money per ship. Nothing more. TPS recognizes its employees as assets and accounting fixed cost. Since they have no natural resources they used to figure net profit per employee instead of the US ton of steel. They also supported the union and pay the difference in salary when an employee is elected to a union office. Toyota puts the money in their pocket with holding companies period. The feds caught them buying 6mm weld nut that cost less than 2 cents for $6 .00 a piece. 300 nuts per car.
You funny.
My neighbor has a 2018 Tundra. Taken in for repairs he got a 2024 as a loaner. He said it felt like it had less power, didn’t ride as well (!!), and didn’t seem to be as solid as his 2018.
I bought an LX 570 brand new in 2015. Today with a 150K miles on it, it runs like the day it came out of the showroom. My brother bought a Ford 250 diesel pick up truck in 2015 he still uses it for work everyday. I dont have faith in present day 4 banger turbo charged full size pu trucks
Twin turbo v6’s will never be able to match a V8. Ecoboost has the same issue. Great vid!
Although the 3.5 ecoboost is significantly more reliable than the Toyota 3.4
Twin turbos make a fun weekend toy sports car. but as a daily driver hell no. give me naturally aspirated ANY DAY.
My first vehicle was an old tundra, I can’t remember the year and haven’t had it for a few years, but even when I sold it, it about 190k miles and I still see it around town and talk to the guy I sold it to
I was going to buy a tundra last year until i got there and seen they were charging a shipping fee+ 3k over msrp, with 7% interest! Went next door to gmc bought a diesel at4 for 8k under msrp 5 year 100k warranty and 1.99% i couldn’t be happier
So weird. I tried negotiating on a 4 runner at Orlando Toyota and they wanted 5;000 over sticker. I ended up getting it at a dealership in Jacksonville for much less. Some Toyota dealerships are very greedy.
I called 15 dealerships in Louisiana all were charging shipping fees and msrp, i was bummed cause i really wanted the tundra at the time
We find ourselves living in the land of paying more, to get less, so none of this surprises me. I choose to drive a 1999 4WD GMC Suburban. In the 7 years I've owned it, I've put approximately $200 into it, for actual repairs, and most of those were by choice. It has, by far, been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. It has towed dozens of cars on a car trailer, a 6,000 lb horse trailer and countless loads of brush and logs to the local dump. It achieves 21 miles per gallon, highway, and is still on the original engine, transmission and transfer case at 200,000 miles, all of which still work flawlessly. SO tempting to go out and buy a $70,000 Toyota truck lol.
I tried the 2022 Tundra but thanks God I bought the Nissan Titan Pro4X and I don’t regret it.
I put 212K on my 2014 Tundra1794 Edition. Drove it cross country probably 40 times. Never a single problem except the idler pulley needing to be replaced which I did myself for $110. That truck was bulletproof, and I put it through its paces, even with a 7" BDS lift on 37s. That truck was a dynamo. Sold it for 38K in May, 2021. I had a lot of superb aftermarket mods.
My 2006 Tundra just won’t die. I tow a 5x10 dump trailer up and down mountains at max towing capacity and it just keeps going.
Would like to get a F250 for towing a dump trailer but the ole Tundra just won’t go away.
The 2UZ-FE is a legend.
lol I just told my wife the same thing about my Sequoia with the 5.7. I told her it probably won’t die if I continue to actually perform maintenance on it and I’ll just be stuck with it forever. Not a bad thing I suppose.
One of the best decisions I ever made was ordering a 2021 TRD Pro double cab in January 2021 while I was still able to. I will be keeping this truck forever.
a 2021 might outlast me if it's well cared for :).
I feel the same way with my 2015 TSS CrewMax. It’s the best car (& best looking) or truck I’ve ever had.
Really great video! I’m a technician that has rebuilt these engines at least 5 times now and I have tons of footage if you wanna make a follow up video.. I was scared to post my content because it’s a huge hit to my employer lmao
I'd love to connect and put out a follow up video. Shoot me an email and we can discuss. cars@thecarguyonline.com
I have a 2014 4.6 v8 108k on it i love it very reliable i wont let go of it.
Lotsa “made in Mexico” hate in the comments. My 2012 5.7L tundra was made in Mexico. Totally amazing since the day I bought it brand new. Let’s not blame Mexico… bad engineering is bad engineering
different truck but my 2018 tacoma with 120k made in Mexico has had zero issues.
This is true. we cannot blame the Mexicans for problems that are clearly designed related. however, sending work to be performed in Mexico is just a sign that the company is trying to cut costs. Quality control tends to not be as good down there
Modern production is modern regardless of where it’s made. Cummins diesel blocks have been cast in Brazil for 30 years and are phenomenal. If you pay people well and utilize state of the art equipment I don’t care where it’s made.
@@joshuaatkinson5810that’s the thing. They don’t pay people well over there, so the quality is not as good as say, a Toyota made in Japan.
@@JC-dc7eb they make good money for their perspective economy. The Mexican Tacomas are pretty much flawless.
You're definitely not wrong about the longevity of these engines my dude toyota is going to have to do a major overhaul on these new Tundra's
I have a 2023 Platinum, I haven't had any engine issues but my fuel gauge resets on its own when I park on an incline and they don't have a fix for it yet.
But all the fanboys say everything is just fine trust Toyota 🤣
Toyota fanboy here.
Don’t buy the new style tundra, sequoia, taco, 4Runner, or LC. Trash. Trash. Trash!
Add to that the Grand Highlander.@@americandude3825
Add to that list the Grand Highlander..
No they don’t, real fans wait for the kinks to get worked out.
Toyota fan here.
And no, I will not buy the new tundra or tacoma. They raised their prices. Quality went down. And turbos.
Couldn't agree more. All these new trucks are overcomplicated, overblown, and overpriced. It's a problem for all manufacturers, it just hurts more coming from Toyota because like you said "they used to build reliable cars" and they are currently taking advantage of that undeserved reputation to sell subpar vehicles at ultra premium prices.
Truly a sad state of affairs.
Why are you blaming toyota when it's the government imposing sanctions because of emissions.
All the manufacturers could have stopped making vehicles, told the government that they can't make reliable vehicles with their EPA mandates and told them no more vehicles until they fix their mandates. Instead they are looking at this transition to unreliable vehicles as a new cash cow. Screw that crap.
@@brontoab1 4 million people work in the auto manufacturing business and 5 others are effected indirectly. You want to cause a mass layoff that could cause a warzone if companies decide to fight the government. It's all a ploy
@@dethtourwhich is exactly why gm was bailed out and continues to make shitty products to this day.
I’m going for a low mileage 2021. I love the 2012 5.7 that I’ve been running for the last 11+ years. Best pickup I’ve ever owned! Toyota would’ve been smart to only offer the V6 turbo as an option while still offering the tried and true 5.7 V8.
Good choice!
I have a 2023
Spun bearing as well at 33k.
I had a full long block because pistons melted
Got 100k mile bumper to bumper
100K comes fast, what's your plan after that?
@@whales302
Sell or trade when I start getting close
I’m also a Tundra owner, do yourself a favour and trade that abomination for an older Tundra or a F150 V8, those are much more reliable than this new Tundra. Your wallet and spare time will thank you.
toyota tundra forum has a spreadsheet of V35-FTS failure and out of 76 reported cases, seven were 2023 model, one 2024 and the rest is 2022. Three of the 2022 had failure twice. Definitely something happening at 2022 model.
Also majority close to fifty of the cases had oil change at 10,000mi (which is not good). The rest of them that had 5000mi oil change, most of them again was 2022 models.
Also detuned SR variant had three cases
There was two LS500 and three or four LX600 case also. Have not heard anything about LC300 or Hybrid Sequoia interestingly. Now for the LC300 probably because those are sold in world markets primarily in diesel or 4.0L V6 out of a current 4Runner
In these high performance turbo-engines I would change the oil every 5000km not 5000mi (so just over 3000mi)
145K on my 07 Tundra, runs amazing, has never once let me down. Toyota really screwed up when they moved away from the 5.7.
In other news I’m just shy of 222,000 on my 16 year old 2008 5.7L sequoia with zero issues!
Sweet! Same as mine, the thing is a beast.
Should be 700k left
@@ryandoyle4344 yup. Hope so!
My 22 Tundra with 22k miles is back in the shop for the 10th time. This time for turbo replacement.
Sorry to hear that...what a bummer.
As the owner of a 2021 Ford PowerBoost F150 Hybrid, I must admit I am still apprehensive about the longevity/reliability of my truck, even though I have 52+ thousand trouble-free miles on it. I bought it for the &.2 kW generator, and thus far I am not disappointed. Time will tell of the unit will prove a good buy, but I am sad to hear Toyota has failed so badly in their copycat effort. I have historically been a big fan of Toyota. A once great quality brand has fallen on their face with these new turbos. While not a MPG champion, the 5.7 V8 was a powerful, solid engine. RIP
I still have my 2000 Tundra Limited. 398,000 miles. Same tranny and engine. Oil change every 3000 and regular service on trans... I will not buy the new tundra with the new engine...V8 for life....
you have the 4.6 L V8?
Good for you! I sold my 2000 to get a 2020. No regrets. I did not want a turbo six!
This is the exact reason I bought a 3rd gen Tacoma. Toyota is ruining their reputation.
yep, I'll be hanging on to my 2015 Tundra 4x4 with the 5.7 lol
@roadieman209 My biggest fear is having my 98 Tacoma totaled or stolen.
Should have gotten the 2nd gen, that 3.5 is useless on the highway.
@@jimmy-buffett not really. The 2nd gen puts out 236 hp and 266 lb-ft. While the 3rd gen has 286 up and 265 lb-ft. Also, the max Rev torque is almost identical.
@@theaveragewoodsman6002 I've driven a 3rd gen on a long highway trip (Denver to Tucson), I've also owned the 4.0L from the 2nd gen in both an FJ and 4Runner. Numbers on paper is one thing, real world is another. And in the real world I found the 3rd gen Tacoma had a hard time maintaining 6th gear for highway cruising.
But I live in Colorado at elevation, so we're down about 20% on horsepower up here. I'm sure the 3.5L is adequate at sea level.
My 2017 Limited double cab just rolled over 110,000 km and it still runs like the day I purchased it. I am never getting rid of it, it’s my dream machine. The new ones sound more like a nightmare.
The 5.7 Hemi Ram is also very reliable. Unfortunately, it too has gone by the wayside to be replaced by a straight six turbo. The 5.0 F150 is our last hope.
Don’t they only put the coyote V8 in only their work trucks now?
@@JokerG16you can order it still in any new ford truck you want as an “add on” option. and many folks ate starting to come to truth on the f150 v6 Turbo. I do not know, but I’d not be surprised at all if 5.0 were outselling the v6 turbos by now
Just found your page. Great videos. This isn't an issue with modern trucks. It's an issue with Toyota. It used to be that Toyotas may rust to high hell but at least they ran forever. At least the motors will fail about the time they rust out, which is a few years here in the rust belt.
I love my 2024 tundra，none of those issues so far，everything doing just what expectation as Toyota doing，I have 5 new Toyota now，2x2020 4runner，2019 highlander，2010 camery，2024 tundra，they all awesome vehicles！
Thank you for sharing and, truly happy that you are not experiencing these issues. Lets hope that is the trend moving forward. I'm rooting for them.
Blind hope solves everything. May the force be with you.
2 years ago, my wife’s car broke down. Had to get her a new one. My original plan was to get a Tacoma 2024 since I paid my car and motorcycle this last January. Toyota priced me out. There is no way Im paying 65k + for the TRD Pro which is the one I wanted. I rather go with the Frontier and still I think is way too much money.
2001 4.7 tundra with 400k still running all original engine, trans and diff, just batteries, brakes, timing belts and wear items and 4k oil changes, trans fluid drain and fill every 2nd oil change .
Most the miles were pulling a trailer loaded, added a spin on filter setup for the trans plus a double trans cooler and still not using oil, but shes out of the hard work runs now cuzz she earned it
Great work on the maintenance :)
All manufactures that ditched the v8 for the 6 have all had major issues, not only with the engine but also the transmission. That is why I bought my Tundra v8
Toyota is the new General Motors