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  • @notsoAceTrainer
    @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому +1

    Do you think they'll ever retcon Trade Evolutions? Let me know in the comments! Thanks for watching!
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  • @KairiBerlitz
    @KairiBerlitz 3 місяці тому +13

    Shellmet and Karrablast could evolve using a DNA Splicers/N-Solarizer/Reins of Unity type of item. By having both on your party, you link them with said item and they evolve, without chance of reverting back, of course. But yeah, I think we're done with trade evolutions, and that's a good thing since nowadays you need a paid online subscription in order to do so

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      I didn't mention that last part but it absolutely should be another argument!
      And nice idea for the Karrablast/Shelmet evos!

    • @renatoramos8834
      @renatoramos8834 3 місяці тому

      Or breeding with each other.

  • @mudkipmercenary3647
    @mudkipmercenary3647 3 місяці тому +7

    I for one think that trade evolutions will continue to be a thing, but I think it should be optional for the player to use it to get the specific Pokémon. Like with legends Arceus, and possibly by extension ZA, the way you used the items for certain trade evolutions like Electivire was fantastic and easy for lone wolves. The link cord was also a great addition that I’m baffled at why they didn’t have it in scarlet and violet. I would love to see them incorporate new ways to get trade evolution Pokémon to their final form without needing two players. Especially if you’re like me whose only way to get certain trade evolutions in Pokémon was by having his sister help out. Now I know the two of us have Wi-Fi connections to do it still today, but you can’t always expect them to be ready at a moment’s notice. Everyone’s got a life to live, and trying to line things up can be a pain if you want to progress the main story before a certain time.

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      I'm absolutely fine with them staying if we have alternatives, but I do feel like they will not be introducing new ones. I might be wrong, but even the Alolan Graveler one feels like a simply homage to the OG evolution method. We've got so many different evo methods (Runerigus, for example) on the last few games, but none were trade related!

    • @mudkipmercenary3647
      @mudkipmercenary3647 3 місяці тому

      @@notsoAceTrainer Agreed, If they stop with them that's fine with me, makes it a lot easier to get the good Pokémon. I just hope they can do something with the older trade evolutions. Gigalith is my favorite rock type Pokémon, and arguably my favorite gen 5 Pokémon, and I'd like an easier way to get it if we get some kind of gen 5 remake or whatever in the near or distant future. With my sister moved out of my hometown, and no idea when the two of us could hook up via wi-fi, it makes getting my favorite rock type really difficult if they kept the same evolution method from the og gen 5 games.

  • @markrinella4436
    @markrinella4436 3 місяці тому +8

    Bring back the Linking Cord....one of pokemon's greatest items, greatest addition.

  • @jakeblancaster8498
    @jakeblancaster8498 3 місяці тому +5

    Most of the Trade Items's effect would have to be changed into being Meta-relavent and the Trade Evos would also need new evolution methods.

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому +1

      The trade items could become evolutionary items that you use! Just like in PLA. I explain that later in the vid!

    • @jakeblancaster8498
      @jakeblancaster8498 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes you did, but at the same time, I was hinting at something more creative like:
      ●The Protector Item giving the ability to block Critical Hits.
      ●The Reaper Cloth can allow Ghosts and Normals to damage each other.
      These are just a couple of ideas. Maybe you can make another video on what new effects the Trade Items should get to stay in existence should Trade Evolution become fully obsolete.

  • @Darkthefox-nu9bw
    @Darkthefox-nu9bw 3 місяці тому +10

    If trading evos go away good riddance I actually want to use a gourgeist or dusknoir or other mons I like the look of on my team for once

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      All we need is a new alternative method!

    • @Darkthefox-nu9bw
      @Darkthefox-nu9bw 3 місяці тому

      @@notsoAceTrainer yea dusknoir already has a item need and just give gourgeist like idk dusk stone? That would work better

    • @TheShiningEnergy
      @TheShiningEnergy 3 місяці тому

      or a freaking Slowking, or Alakazam. Golem, Steelix, Gengar. The list goes on.

  • @Johnny-Wilde-Productions
    @Johnny-Wilde-Productions 3 місяці тому +5

    Then end version exclusives, as well and have one version of the gen only.
    The IP was founded on trading. Only PL breaks this as it's just one version. It can't trade with another version.

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому +3

      The IP was indeed founded on trading... almost 30 years ago. Trading was a special thing for the GBC/GBA lifetime. You met up with your friends and traded Pokémon while chatting about the whole thing. Even in the DS era I used to trade with people all over the world while using the voice chat within the game to communicate in broken english with them.
      Now it is just not special anymore. You quickly trade and it's done. People even setup links for specific version exclusive tradebacks and you just go there and spam it until you get what you want.
      Pokémon evolved tremendously since 1996. This would be just another step.

    • @Johnny-Wilde-Productions
      @Johnny-Wilde-Productions 3 місяці тому

      @notsoAceTrainer I don't trade online, I just trade between my versions, so trading has always felt the same as it always had.
      Yes, I'm old enough to own the OG Red version (with access to yellow), along with OG Gold and Silver, which I made use of trading starters, until I learned how to use the PC box glitch to get all 3 in one copy.
      Link cable items in the main game would allow people with access to one version to get the trade evos. Palfin is probably the worst offender when it comes to needing friends. It wasn't easy using 2 switches to watch one Palfin battle to evolve it, I'd change that to the Super Cape item and defeat ten Pokemon without fainting.

  • @circledude2362
    @circledude2362 3 місяці тому +9

    Another END of a pokemon rule is making starters' gender ratios mainly male. and even let Starter pokemon evolve based on gender

    • @lucarionite452
      @lucarionite452 3 місяці тому +3

      nah the mainly male would happen but not split evolutions

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      Split evolutions I don't see happening. I do believe there's another monster taming that was still in Beta (or alpha) that did something like this. If I ever remember the name I'll let you know and you might feel like trying it out!

    • @circledude2362
      @circledude2362 3 місяці тому

      @@lucarionite452 we see pokemon like burny have split evolution based on gender. if that can happen for basic pokemon it can happen for starter pokemon and make them mainly female even

    • @lucarionite452
      @lucarionite452 3 місяці тому

      @@circledude2362 bro there is a difference between starter pokemon and a regionally bug
      starter pokemons main thing is being starter pokemon they obviously wont get gender evolutions as 6 starters are just absurd

    • @circledude2362
      @circledude2362 3 місяці тому

      @@lucarionite452 that can happen lije basic pokemon. Its time they break tradition

  • @AloneTheorist
    @AloneTheorist 3 місяці тому +1

    I for one would welcome the idea of certain Pokémon getting the linking cord treatment or being downgraded to using an evolution stone. The ONLY thing stopping Alolan Golem from being a thunder stone evolution is literally the fact that it's a Golem, who's Kanto variant must be traded to evolve. Half of the trade evolution held items don't actually need the 'electrical stimulation' from the trading process anyway. Magmariser is a box containing lava that Magmar absorbs the lava to evolve, so is a consumable, Electirizer being the same for Electabuzz. The protector item is literally just a stone carved Assault vest, so Rhydon could just wear it to evolve. The only electromagnetically bonded trade evo item is metal coat, for Scizor and Steelix but there's no reason they couldn't make it so that using that item on a Pokémon in a certain location does the evo, like in a power plant for example, plenty of electrical stimulus surrounding your Pokémon there.

    • @AloneTheorist
      @AloneTheorist 3 місяці тому +1

      The reason I suggested thunder stone for evolving an Alolan Graveler into Alolan Golem was simply what it's Pokédex entries mention about it; having a fondness for electrically charged ores, eating them particularly. Thunder Stone evolution fits perfectly with the biology of the Pokémon yet isn't a thing YET.😅

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      I would also have loved if they played on the magnetism aspect of the regional form and let it evolve near Vast Poni Canyon in Gen7. They could then rework it like they did with other species!

  • @howtogoogle8031
    @howtogoogle8031 3 місяці тому +1

    The cables weren't easily available each sold separately hmmm

  • @allenparker2113
    @allenparker2113 3 місяці тому +1

    I still think about the person who stole my shiny boldre that I randomly got trying to get a carbink for the dex

  • @Blahblahblah28504
    @Blahblahblah28504 День тому

    I got denied Machamp and Gengar in my Crystal playthrough when I was a kid all because I had no one to be able to trade with. This evolution method has got to go away.

  • @bajanyaoikaizer6902
    @bajanyaoikaizer6902 3 місяці тому

    Evolve them yourself with a linking cord or special stone; or trade them to get 10 moves the pokemon otherwise wouldn't get or be hard to get

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      That would add an incentive to trading, yes!

  • @nixsilvermist5598
    @nixsilvermist5598 3 місяці тому +1

    *glances at palafins “other” form locked behind having a local Poképlayer friend or an online sub to obtain*
    Technically not an evolution but

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      That's the evolution! And, despite that, they at least made it available through raids!

    • @richardklein1167
      @richardklein1167 3 місяці тому

      Palafin's hero form is at least easy to get without potentially losing it to a trade.

  • @MonkeySharkPro
    @MonkeySharkPro 3 місяці тому

    I think trade evos will continue to be a thing, but an option should be given to the player to get them solo. However something needs to be present to still incentivize trading, perhaps moves that they learn exclusively through evolving via trade

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      I think trading just kinda lost its thing... we still have version exclusives though!

  • @TheShiningEnergy
    @TheShiningEnergy 3 місяці тому +1

    Good. TPC REALLY overestimates how many of our friends play Pokemon in this day and age. IMHO, trade evolutions should have died a long time ago.

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      They kinda did (as in new ones), but we still have the old ones!

    • @TheShiningEnergy
      @TheShiningEnergy 3 місяці тому

      @@notsoAceTrainer imho, it's time to let the old trade evolutions become level up evolutions. As well as letting Slowking evolve FROM Slowbro. i do not understand why it wasn't that way from the start.

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong 3 місяці тому

    I think they should make it so Pokèmon with Trade Evolutions can either be traded to evolve OR use an item like the "linking cable" from Legends Arceus. I really just wanna use an Alakazam or Escavalier on my main playthrough

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому +1

      That does feel like the more realistic approach!

    • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
      @PelinalDidNothingWrong 3 місяці тому

      ​@@notsoAceTrainer It'd allow the "purists" to still evolve via trading and allow people who only really want to trade for version exclusives (me) to use the likes of Gengar,Alakazam,Electrivire,Gigalith and so on in a main playthrough

  • @Kali_Krause
    @Kali_Krause 3 місяці тому

    In Black 2/White 2, trade pokemon like Golem now evolve at level 50

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому +1

      I don't think they do... I think you might be talking about a fan game!

  • @JamiePokemonTrainer
    @JamiePokemonTrainer 3 місяці тому +2

    Trading itself will remain for future games to motivate players to trade with each other. Trade evolutions however hasn't happen in a while and a lot of previous trade evolutions are found in raids. Linking Cord in PLA made sense since it is a single player game that requires the player to catch every pokemon to encounter Arceus. So while trading itself won't go away, i think trade evolutions is likely a thing of the past.

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      With all the strange evo methods we got recently, and with none of them being trade related, it does seem like they don't plan on bringing anything like that!

  • @TangyNav
    @TangyNav 3 місяці тому +3

    I think they should still incorporate them, but make it optional. Like in PLA. You can evolve pokemon with items like the link cable found in space time distortions, but still have the option to trade them to evolve (I think)

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому +1

      I do believe you still can do it, yes. And yeah, I'd be fine with it! That would harm no one but benefit everyone!

  • @jmccartt7
    @jmccartt7 3 місяці тому +2

    Love your videos! I think trade evolutions are outdated as well! But I think it's fine to keep as long as they have Legend Arceus' Link Cable. Typically I like having my own pokemon anyways, so then I have to double trade just to get it back.

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому +2

      Thank you! I would love if they went through with the Linking Cord becoming an evo item!

    • @jmccartt7
      @jmccartt7 3 місяці тому

      @@notsoAceTrainer Honestly! I also think that just having Karrablast and Shelmet fight each other in a time distrotion or a certain place where their dna could be mixed because that's honestly the main reason they evolve by basically merging DNA when being traded. So I feel like the Time distortion could be close enough, but that opens another can of worms on why other pokemon don't. So that's my thoughts.

  • @jerseys89finest
    @jerseys89finest 3 місяці тому +3

    Pokemon legends evolution should be the way they go. You can evolve with items or using moves or something. That's way better than goin on a discord and trusting a random individual. I want it to go. Along with two versions of the same game. They could put that effirt into one game. Put whatever pikemon in game and connect it to home for transfer pokemon. If they keep two versions they will keep trading. The first few games were ok with trading using cables when i was young. Now i want to get everything with my OT. They should go the legends route for evolution with all games goin forward. It avoid trading and gettin hacked pokemon also

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому +1

      I think 2 versions can be fine, but at the same time, I feel like version exclusives are a bit outdated. It's a double edged sword... I don't think the effort is that divided, or that it would change a lot of the final product though!

  • @emm._.
    @emm._. 2 місяці тому

    It's a no brainer that we need a diff method for evolving trade pokemon bc 1. I dont have any friends who play pokemon and two Im broke and im NOT buying a second switch and game for the sake of a trade.
    I was replaying an older game and realized that I cant get the team i want bc trading via internet is impossible since ppl dont play it anymore and you cant even trade anymore thanks to the service being discontinued. :/

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  2 місяці тому

      Unless you use Glitches or know someone/have 2 consoles, it has become impossible to complete them, yes! A sad truth that was inevitable!

  • @douglaspope-gz1eq
    @douglaspope-gz1eq 3 місяці тому +3

    Honestly I wouldn't mind getting rid of trade evolutions or at least give us an alternative to dealing with trade evolutions

  • @Ludraman_
    @Ludraman_ 3 місяці тому +2

    I hope this is the case, there's lots of people who wouldn't be able to trade with anyone and it's not fair on them

  • @Demonsouls1993
    @Demonsouls1993 16 днів тому

    always hated trading to evolve hope it goes away and never comes back

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  15 днів тому

      Same! Or at least no new ones are introduced!

  • @carloszamorano2614
    @carloszamorano2614 Місяць тому

    I had a link cable and never traded, just say it, we had no friends at that time or our friends didnt have the game 😅

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  Місяць тому

      I was the friend without a cable, but I had a cousin with one so I was pretty lucky from Gen3 onwards!

  • @blues4509
    @blues4509 3 місяці тому +2

    I've always hated trade evos so phasing them out with a link stone or something would be fantastic

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому +1

      The Linking Cord could actually become a thing!

  • @elin111
    @elin111 3 місяці тому

    Trade evos was always an irritating Pain in the ass much worse when trying to do online trading with randos who refuse to accept the trades unless you give them some Shiny you don't have.
    Very much a good riddance moment.

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      Hopefully they continue their path without more trade evos!

  • @howtogoogle8031
    @howtogoogle8031 3 місяці тому

    How is linking cord in the past hmm legends arches the item stones hmmm

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      It comes through the Space Time Distortions!

  • @mobilenation1104
    @mobilenation1104 3 місяці тому

    NO MORE DEX CUT IN ALL THE FUTURE POKEMON GAMES!

  • @mobilenation1104
    @mobilenation1104 3 місяці тому

    finally, the trade evolution will die soon, after the trade evolution is dead now, the automatic exp share & the shiny lock & the black cutscenes & the unskip cutscenes & the dexit/dex cut will all die soon too in the future.

  • @deazee2288
    @deazee2288 3 місяці тому

    They should remove it but that way they would loose one of the myriads of reasons to make you buy another console and the same game twice

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      A lot of people buy them for the version exclusives! Or for collecting!

  • @howtogoogle8031
    @howtogoogle8031 3 місяці тому

    As in legends Za game it setting was way more futuristic aiunrealiaitc semireakiatic and realistic hmmmm

  • @Reefer-Rampage69
    @Reefer-Rampage69 3 місяці тому

    We can only hope 😂

  • @howtogoogle8031
    @howtogoogle8031 3 місяці тому

    Can we get a Pokemon region based on Portugal a legendary game let's go a legend a security will be involved as it uses it's power to teleport take the player character from the future to the past past character to the future they should do that now hmmm

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      We have one! Paldea is based on Portugal and Spain! (mostly Spain, of course!)

  • @howtogoogle8031
    @howtogoogle8031 3 місяці тому

    Why don't you participate in the hidden power podcast not so ace trainer lumiosepost dustugogoat soulsiler art

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      I don't like to associate with leak related things, so I won't go to the Hidden Power Podcast! Nothing against them!

  • @sergcm10
    @sergcm10 3 місяці тому +1

    I also think they are outdated, there should be two ways of evolving, they could even get creative with the secondary evolution method so it doesn't feel like a chore. It's a bit ironic that now when we can actually connect with a lot of people around the world, that people don't wanna trade anymore.

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      I think it is become it became a "non-social" thing. You just match with someone, trade it, then forget about it.

  • @mobilenation1104
    @mobilenation1104 3 місяці тому

    mod pokemon game is a end of the dexit/dex cut & the automatic exp share & the shiny lock, if gamefreak try to make the bad game over again, it lead the modders no choices to mod the pokemon to kill the dexit/dex cut & the automatic exp share & the shiny lock, just like pokemon go creator did to them all as they kill them all.

  • @nebbynetwork2089
    @nebbynetwork2089 3 місяці тому +1

    I personally hate trade evolutions they number of shines I've list because the other person didn't trade it me back after evolving
    Legends arceus did it right

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому +1

      Hopefully we see something different in the future!

    • @THGMR-ox7sd
      @THGMR-ox7sd 3 місяці тому

      That is a good reason to hate trade evolutions. It sucks when you want it but the person doesn’t trade your Pokémon back.
      There’s ways around that though but I’m sorry that you lost so many shinies because of it.

  • @renatoramos8834
    @renatoramos8834 3 місяці тому +1

    should have never existed.

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      I understand why they did back in the day - despite not being able to do many where I live! 😅

  • @asaka616
    @asaka616 Місяць тому

    Trade evolutions are outdated and annoying, especially item hold trade evolutions. FFS Gimmighoul is easier to evolve.

  • @hospee
    @hospee 3 місяці тому

    I would LOVE trade evos to go away. The link cable was such a step forward. They can just continue them but keep the link cable in each game. But I won’t hold my breath unless I see the item in the gen 10 game. I can see them making it a Legends only feature.
    Also your hair looks so amazing!!!! Love the curls.

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      Thank you! 😁 And I do see trade evos not being introduced and eventually us getting an alternative. It does feel like a more realistic approach for them!

  • @howtogoogle8031
    @howtogoogle8031 3 місяці тому

    There is a thing that the y chromosome x is female y is male so basically the y chromosomes are dying if you read in the computer phone laptop or tablet now what would happen is that Pokemon that were 100peecent female would become 10 percent or may more percentage male but less percent female we should get female forms for male Pokemon hitmainchanhitomnlee their evolutions hit on top Ruthie Taurus male milktanksa regional foreman of these Pokemon can be female the wrestler Pokemon now there are female kickboxers female boxers male kangaroos the kangaskhans are female but 10percdntage could be female game freak Pokemon company please here's us so basically the male Pokemon could be so rapidly dying in such a way that there could be one Pokemon that is male per region hmmm

  • @JJvdm27
    @JJvdm27 3 місяці тому

    Putting evo's behind a paywall is also not a good choice, so it's good that gamefreak makes them available without nintendo online

    • @notsoAceTrainer
      @notsoAceTrainer  3 місяці тому

      I forgot to mention that part, but it is 100% a good argument against trade evos!

  • @antoinewilliams290
    @antoinewilliams290 3 місяці тому +1

    We might still get trade evolutions but if we don't then good riddance