The ratio of the cables are 2:1. The max stacks is 200lb. If I am using both cables at the same time it will be max 50lb or 100lb to each side? Could you show a video using the leg attachment please. Thks
Given the 2:1 ratio, the cables would total 50lb per hand, equivalent to two 50lb dumbbells. The blue smith/jones barbell is a 1:1 ratio unless cables are attached, so you would feel 50 on the barbell.
@@BanditFitnessIt is a genius equipment, but 50lb per hand is not impressive considering the cost. I believe that it is possible increase the weight including a Weight Stack Pin Extender with some extra weight plates. Sorry I couldn't understand how the barbell will be 50lb, if the ratio is 1:1, with full 200lb stacks? (You meant feel 100lb in each hand). Thks
Could you be a little more specific about the maximum weights in different exercises? Namely, from the questions and your answers so far, it is very difficult to understand the exact maximum load in certain exercises, with one arm but also with two arms. Let's assume that the device is loaded with 200lb. Thanks in advance for your reply.
Blue Bar = 1:1 Ratio = 200lbs:200lbs Adjustable Cable Column = 2:1 Ratio = 200lbs:100lbs (Per Side) Blue Bar with Cables Attached = 1:2 Ratio = 200lbs:400lbs
hm, i find the squats somewhat troublesome. im thinking about clients in rehab. you have to start low right? can be troublesome if they got problems when lowering and you have to get them out.
Hello Jake, how practical is the "doubling weight option" (cables attached to smith) with exercises such as squat or deadlift. Do you have to start at your weakest point for Squats? Can you get the bar low enough for a full deadlift? (cables underneath). Appreciate your answer )
Sure, the bar would work fine for deadlifts, however, when you attach the cables, the additional resistance does not kick in until about knee-height. We might recommend a stable platform to lift from to help mitigate that. For squats, it's totally fine since you would position the starting point for the bar/cables at your lowest point in the movement, which is plenty high enough. Hope that helps!
Most home units are designed to be stable enough to not require bolting to the floor, but there are some that do require bolting. Always follow what the manufacturer recommends. The XFT does not require bolting to the floor.
It's all in the cable ratios! On this particular machine, the design allows for you to be feeling weight from the blue bar at a 1:1 ratio, so a maximum of 200 lbs (with the upgraded 200lb stack). However, because the cables that can be attached to the ends of the blue bar also pull *against* the blue bar assembly, you're combining them with an additional 100lb max. per cable (at a standard 2:1 ratio), effectively doubling the weight.
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Looking good Jake. Looks like a cool machine.
Great video.
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The ratio of the cables are 2:1.
The max stacks is 200lb.
If I am using both cables at the same time it will be max 50lb or 100lb to each side?
Could you show a video using the leg attachment please.
Thks
Given the 2:1 ratio, the cables would total 50lb per hand, equivalent to two 50lb dumbbells. The blue smith/jones barbell is a 1:1 ratio unless cables are attached, so you would feel 50 on the barbell.
@@BanditFitnessIt is a genius equipment, but 50lb per hand is not impressive considering the cost. I believe that it is possible increase the weight including a Weight Stack Pin Extender with some extra weight plates.
Sorry I couldn't understand how the barbell will be 50lb, if the ratio is 1:1, with full 200lb stacks? (You meant feel 100lb in each hand). Thks
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What is the ratio for the side cables when not using the Smith Bar?
2:1 ratio.
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Could you be a little more specific about the maximum weights in different exercises? Namely, from the questions and your answers so far, it is very difficult to understand the exact maximum load in certain exercises, with one arm but also with two arms. Let's assume that the device is loaded with 200lb. Thanks in advance for your reply.
Blue Bar = 1:1 Ratio = 200lbs:200lbs
Adjustable Cable Column = 2:1 Ratio = 200lbs:100lbs (Per Side)
Blue Bar with Cables Attached = 1:2 Ratio = 200lbs:400lbs
I live in South Korea. Can I get this product delivered? If there is a manual, I can assemble it myself
You would have to check with Bodycraft to see if there is a distributor in SK.
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hm, i find the squats somewhat troublesome. im thinking about clients in rehab. you have to start low right? can be troublesome if they got problems when lowering and you have to get them out.
It could be. In that case could probably start higher and work on improving mobility one notch at a time.
When you attach the bar to the functional trainer to double the resistance, do you lose the ability of the bar's horizontal travel?
You do not!
Hmm, if you’re careful with your stability on the blue bar, you can lay on your back and do leg press exercises.
I wouldn't recommend that given how easily the bar spins. Some machines are designed for that, like the BodyKore Universal Trainer, but not the XFT.
@@BanditFitness Oh, good point
Do you have to start in the low position when beginning your squat and benches with this type of smith machine?
Correct, you start at the “bottom” position for those types of workouts.
Hello Jake, how practical is the "doubling weight option" (cables attached to smith) with exercises such as squat or deadlift. Do you have to start at your weakest point for Squats? Can you get the bar low enough for a full deadlift? (cables underneath). Appreciate your answer )
Sure, the bar would work fine for deadlifts, however, when you attach the cables, the additional resistance does not kick in until about knee-height. We might recommend a stable platform to lift from to help mitigate that. For squats, it's totally fine since you would position the starting point for the bar/cables at your lowest point in the movement, which is plenty high enough. Hope that helps!
@@BanditFitness thanks Jake appreciate your feedback. The only thing i feel, is the lowest point for squats is not ideal to start from...cheers
Does this machine along with some of the others, I.e, Hoist V4 Elite or the Hoist Mi7 need to be bolted down to the floor?
Most home units are designed to be stable enough to not require bolting to the floor, but there are some that do require bolting. Always follow what the manufacturer recommends. The XFT does not require bolting to the floor.
What is the max weight on the jones bar? Thinking of squatting around 340 lbs. Will it hold up to that weight?
If you use the double-up feature, you'd be at a maximum 400lbs with the upgraded weight stack option.
What is the height of the bar (smith) when it is locked into the highest position? thanks!
Just measured, it's exactly 72 inches from the floor. -Max
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I don't get it, how can be 400 pounds as there is only single weight stack?
It's all in the cable ratios!
On this particular machine, the design allows for you to be feeling weight from the blue bar at a 1:1 ratio, so a maximum of 200 lbs (with the upgraded 200lb stack).
However, because the cables that can be attached to the ends of the blue bar also pull *against* the blue bar assembly, you're combining them with an additional 100lb max. per cable (at a standard 2:1 ratio), effectively doubling the weight.
How much?
You can check out current pricing on our site here: www.banditfitness.com/products/bodycraft-xft-functional-trainer
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200lb stack ? so you have 100 lb on pulley ? = 50 lb (22kg) each hands ? Way too low weight, can't understand taht choice
Not quite. It’s maximum 100lbs per hand. 50% or 200lb stack per handle.
@@BanditFitness Yes but if you use both pulley with your 2 arms, you have 50lb each, or i don't understand something
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