Building my home gym currently. After 17 years of paying for memberships and commuting back and forth, I finally threw in the towel and got annoyed with being around people who can't pick up after themselves.
I have equipment from both REP and Rogue and love both companies. I'm happy that REP has rack options for basements/garages with low ceilings. The 83" just fits with my ceilings.
The REP showroom is only like an hour from my house so I'll go check the Ares 2.0 there in person when it gets in at the end of the summer. And probably make a decision after that. I got long arms so the added width of the Rogue might sell it for me
I got the Ares 1.0 because they dropped the price to approximately $800 less than the listed price. I know the 2.0 is much more improved, but I can deal with the low row being so close to the ground and how far apart they are for $800 less. I can't be happier with my purchase.
So how much would I be for the 1.0 out the door with 30+16 rack? Iam really considering selling my titan selectorized lat pull down, my inspire FT and my manticore rack.
Honestly, your reviews have been so incredibly helpful. I am researching what I would like to upgrade to in the future, from dumbbells and a weight bench. Your energy & excitement is palpable and permeates not only your demeanor but your in depth and detailed honest reviews of the equipment. I thought I would just get a little here and there from Amazon later on when I was ready to upgrade, but now you have me drooling over Rogue and REP Racks. Thank you!!!! And when I am ready and have the dedicated space, I promise to get horse stall mats and not those cheap spongey ones (that I may or may not be using now 🤣) Thanks, Coop!!
I am in the middle of building my Rogue 43” Twin Stack Functional Trainer (100” height in Burnt Orange since the rack is next to all of our KTM bikes) and am beyond IMPRESSED with the quality of EVERYTHING - Packaging - perfect, not a single ding or scratch, everything labeled and accounted for; Assembly instructions - while I’m only halfway through, it’s been a flawless assembly so far. We are just going slow because it’s still super hot here (SW UT and no mini split in the garage yet) and we like to MTB or dirt bike in the morning before we start work on our “erector set”; Build quality - again, so amazing. Everything is machined perfectly, fits perfectly, slides when it should slide and stays in place when it shouldn’t slide; Engineering - you can tell some serious thought went into the design of this product and how it all goes together while leaving options for future modifications. Side note: I also ordered a bunch of the “6 Shooter machined grip plates” but they were out of the 45# ones, so I got the Bells of Steel 45# grip plates. While the Bells of Steel plates are very nice and easy to move around, the Rogue 6 Shooter plates are just beautiful and I love them already. But the BoS plates were a lot cheaper so I would highly recommend them to anyone looking for good looking grip plates without breaking the bank.
Hi, I’m looking at the same thing, but height restricted to the 90.” There’s not a lot of reviews or comments online. Do you think the 43” depth is worth the walkout or do you think 30” would have been better? I wouldn’t want smaller than that, but it seems like 36” would be the sweet spot. Just trying to figure it out for myself. I would be using the Rogue Safety Strap System 2.0 rather than Spotter Arms
@@matt009817 I personally like the 43” depth but I hate feeling constricted and our garage is huge so we weren’t worried about fitting into the space. We also got the safety strap 2.0 and like them a lot.
I bought mine prior to these announcements. I went with the clear coat 6-post PR-5000 93” height, 41” depth. Selectorized dual Athena with the selectorized lat pulldown and low row + weight stack upgrades, wing add-on dumbbell storage 2.0 on both sides.
@@reachco_andrew it’s decent. The lat pulldown is better, but the low row is good and does what it needs to do. I recommend an adjustable bench with a decline so you don’t have to sit on the floor.
Hey Brian, how do you like it? Do you have the exact measurements for depth? I got about 60 inches to work with in the garage. Concerned it will not fit
I have a rogue drop in rhino and I asked about if they could do dual stack on the side with the pulleys. All I would need is for them to make the footplate for the rhino with holes to allow the stacks on, they said they were coming out with something along that design soon. Exciting stuff
@@jamiesoncostello wouldn’t be a weight stack loaded rhino, it would be a normal Drop in rhino with a 150lbs weight stack on each side of the rack. You currently can’t do this unless they change the footplate of the rhino to allow the side weight stacks to go on. That footplate covers the attachment points for the guide-rods. I am half tempted to just have mine altered to allow the guide rods to attach
When you get around to reviewing the Rogue FM, please show how well (or poorly) it works with Rogue's safety straps. I expect they are incompatible (or at least really inconvenient). Thanks Coop!
Already have a Rogue setup. Emailed their sales and they said they would build out a custom order to make use of my existing stack. So that's the route I'm going.
Coop, one aspect of 49" vs 47" that I don't see mentioned often is if you're tall or long-limbed having a wider inside can allow more elbow/knee room for benching and squatting and not hitting the safeties with wider stances/positions. I'm 6ft tall and MUCH prefer a wider interior rack, the small size difference is actually quite noticeable in use.
I hear ya. I'm not even six foot, have Rogue's RM6 and even with the 49" width I find myself occasionally making contact with my safeties during certain exercises, certain positioning etc. I can't imagine what things might be like with less interior width, even if it's only two inches. Right now, it's a rare occurrence and more of a distraction when it does happen. With two less inches I could see it potentially being a problem.
I hear you. My first home gym in 1990 was crap equipment from Champ sports. Bench broke in just a couple months. The stuff out there now via the internet is just incredible. It's come so far.
I PO’d the ares 2.0 The pullies at the bottom for rogues are just too low seems like they have the same issue the first ares has but also the double cables at for the lat pulldown for reps are something I prefer Also need to save more space in my garage lol
You are a legend, Coop! When are you expecting to have them in for review? This video is v helpful but am waiting for you to use them before deciding. Currently leaning towards the twin stack FM-HR from Rogue.
I went with Rep 2.0 Ares as Rogue doesn’t have a short king version. I wish I had space for the taller one but next house with have the 9 foot ceiling and problem solved. Then I’ll probably just buy taller uprights and then use the shorter ones for storage wings like they’re making now.
Coop you are simply the man. I’ve appreciated your videos since pre-Covid and started me on my home gym journey. I think I know what eco-system I’m leaning towards and it’s because of your energy and thoughts. Keep it up and if you ever need a supply chain manager give me a shout out😃😁
Rogue 4-post, 100”, FM-HR. ‘Merica. Thanks Coop for your hard work and enthusiasm. You’ve become a trusted source for equipment education in a not-so-trustworthy world.
Finally the video I’ve been waiting for!!! I’m a bodybuilder so I’m leaning REP for the double pulleys, but I like made in America plus I want a dang belt squat! Might just have to get a standalone lol
I messaged rogue about the dual stack (on two different occasions) and was told the individual stacks will be 150lbs each totaling the same as the single stack. Also as a side note, the plate loaded has a 800lbs weight limit. The limiting factor being the cable.
To add more context, I order the single stack with 300lbs weight stack. I was told the twin stack is the same as the single stack just with two 150lbs stacks* vs a 300lbs stack on the single. With all the talks of a rhino drop in for the FM series, I wonder how that will work with only a 300lbs stack. I was also told the plate loaded has a 800lbs weight limit (the cables being the limiting factor). It seems the best bet would be opt for plate loaded to prepare for the Rhino drop in as this would allow up to 800lbs for a belt squat. I am thinking of changing my single stack to either the plate loaded or dual stack. I plan to call Rogue tomorrow to discuss further. Curious to hear others thoughts. *the two 150lbs stacks came from Rogue customer service on two different occasions.
I was looking at the Prime Prodigy a couple years ago, then put my research on hold... now I just learned Rogue came out with a functional trainer/power rack combo. My homework starts over. Would love a comparison/review of those!
REP has been crushing the home gym strength scene for years now. And their new cardio looks innovative too. Rogue is too busy making overpriced bars/plates with nfl stickers. But that doesn't seem to be working since they sold some of their new cable attachments but had to drop their price weeks after launch. Seems desperate.
I bought the Rogue add-on dual stack functional trainer for my monster rack. I bought it with zero reviews posted. It will supposedly be here in 2-3 weeks. I’m excited but also worried.
I love Rogue products and customer support. I also love Reps products customer support and how freaking fast my items fly in. Don’t make me choose between them. I love my Rogue Rep Frankenstein rack. Keyholes allowed me to utilize 5/8 holes and there’s basically no attachment that doesn’t fit.
love this! as a current RM-6 + drop in belt squat owner, has Rogue hinted when they will release a version of the functional trainer that integrates with this setup?
Coop, been trying to decide on a functional trainer/smith for like 6 months. Would love to see a review on the 3 in 1 smith from Vesta! That thing looks like a beast. Also, would like to see a comparison on the more budget friendly Spirit B52 from Major Fitness. Hope this comment finds you! Lol
Why doesn’t Rogue sell a twin functional trainer “add-on” option for 4 post monster racks. I messaged Rogue about this and they basically said that I had to convert my rack to a 6 post or buy the entire functional trainer. Thanks for supporting customers who bought into your monster ecosystem… make it make sense.
Message them again and talk to custom order department. They quoted me $3150 + tax for 100” height, 24” depth, aluminum pulleys and shrouds for my 4 post monster rack
REP currently is my only option as a basement dweller. I'm hoping for a smith machine attachment similar to what ForceUSA has as that would be a peak home gym rack.
I have an RM-3 currently, so I'm leaning toward Rogue so that I don't have to sell it and buy a whole new rack. Rogue quoted me ~$4,800 (after tax and shipping) for the conversion kit to the FM-6 Twin stack, and that's also including the $300 rack roller that looks really useful
I prefer to buy American made products whenever possible but was thinking REP would be the better choice because they have been so innovative but when you consider the pricing along with the fact I prefer a 49" wide rack, Rogue is the clear choice for me. I haven't seen either of them in person but even though the Rogue has heavier trolley's they sure look like they would be smoother and last longer. Thanks for the thorough review.
Hands down, I own 3 Rep PR-5000's and can tell you that there is no substitute for variety and co-hesive unity for a rack eco-system... Almost everyone makes compatible attachments for The Rep Eco-system. Once you own the best, you'll understand PERIOD!!!
REP has been crushing it for years with cable attachments. Ares. Adonis. Arcadia. Lat pull down and low row. Etc. Where rogue has had limited options and the slinger was awful. Maybe they started innovating again. Who knows.
Regarding cable placement (and, obviously, acknowledging that one cable will be on the front of the upright and the other will be behind), Coop mentioned that he prefers the Rep configuration (lower cable is on the front of the rack). I wish he had acknowledged that this could be problematic for spotter arms extended from the front of the rack (and yes, i know there are workaround solutions, such as lowering the trolley below the spotter arms - or - mounting the spotter arms from an inside-out orientation). Still, for most purposes, it seems the Rogue setup is better for spotter arms.
The FM HR (single stack) is completely irrelevant unless the rhino is very important to the user. It's unnecessarily deep (+22") meanwhile the Twin is comparable to the Ares and is only 5" deeper. If you're going to use the back posts for plate storage, then the Ares and Twin are equal but the single stack sticks out beyond your plate storage. Still waiting on the 4 post twin FT add on to drop. They only have the FM-6 twin add on available. If they have the 4 post twin FT available with the uprights, they should sell it without the uprights as well since some of us can convert our existing racks.
@@BrandonSchwartz1 That's just the same price as the FM-6 twin add on even though there's less extension pieces. That said, it matches up with the FML HR (SS) 4 post add on compared to the FML HR 6 (SS) post add on.
I'm leaning heavily towards Rep. They're built well enough and I like the large amount of options that they have. I can handle slightly inferior craftsmanship as long as it is still quality work.
I would really like to see you get a hold of the plate loaded rogue FM and see how belt squats work with it. it looks like you could just attach a belt to the low row and it would work. the selectorized doesn't look like it would work for it though as the stack goes to far into the rack and too close to the low row mount
Big question on the Rogue side is will they deliver to a residence. When pricing out a cable tower system for my garage gym, Rogue said I'd either need a loading dock or had to rent a fork lift for any of their non-slinger stack options. Rep didn't seem to have those limitations. Kind glad I waiting to pull the trigger to see these newer options though and might have to reconsider my choices... then convince the wife too.
As I have both a Rep PR5000 (w/ 2 Athena’s and lat pulldown) and Rogue Monster rack with the Rhino I’ was hoping that Rogue found a way to incorporate the Rhino into this, but their lack of innovation is really the reason I’ve invested so much more into Rep recently.
Coop we need you to pick one I wanted the rogue because I feel like the attachments are better quality but the rep 2.0 looks sick I'm confused now. Please pick the best . I'm leaning towards rogue but I trust your judgment.
Yup I’m stilling deciding on the 2. I would be buying everything from 1 company. After watching the video , the fact rogue might have lowered thier price to compete where as rep has definitely increased price. I leaning towards rogue now
Can you do an updated Rogue Rhino review/ overview? You always say you love it but what is it that makes you love it so much? Would you recommend stand-alone or add-on that’s coming out?
Man love your reviews and videos. Building my gym and now I'm to the functional trainer. Last basic piece. I need help my problem is I am 6'10" with a 7 foot wingspan. Any clue on which functional trainer will be best for me because I would love something compact but I'm way too big for it I think. Any suggestions would be helpful
Tbh i think the biggest difference is the stacks on the rogue being on the sides vs Rep's being in tbe back of the rack. Personally i think Rep is a clear winner but i also really prefer thw weight atacks in the back of the power rack instead of on tbe sides.
I would be curious on a build list of all the actual options you choose for each. Ive been waiting to pull the trigger on these but so many different options lol
you need to do a follow-up on Kensui: they are scammers. They took my money in MAY and kept giving me the runaround on shipping. It still hasn't shipped, and now they are refusing to give my money back (I got the maxes btw). I'm not the only one. I got them based on your endorsement, but they are scammers. You need to do a follow-up stating that many of their customers have been stiffed.
Sounds like the Ares 2.0 is overall the better option: Heavier weight stack, smaller footprint, easier to use/smoother trolly system, more convenient cable routing on the trolly, dual pulleys add more versatility, low row allows using a bench as an option, and it's a cheaper price. Plus, I think it looks more badass. So extra point for style. Not really seeing a reason to consider Rogue over Rep here unless someone either wants the Rogue model that can be used with the Rhino, or is a stickler for buying products that are made is the US.
For those of us like me that are completely new to Home Gyms, I would benefit from a very general summary of what to look for what not to look for. For example should I be looking at the half racks or the full racks? These are half racks?
Building my home gym currently. After 17 years of paying for memberships and commuting back and forth, I finally threw in the towel and got annoyed with being around people who can't pick up after themselves.
no you get the privilege of not picking up after yourself!
Welcome home!
@@Noahbdh hahaha. Im too OCD to leave a mess.
Welcome to the community
Congratulations! Public gyms are like laundry mats. As soon as you can afford your own equipment, you should 100% buy it and stay home.
I have equipment from both REP and Rogue and love both companies. I'm happy that REP has rack options for basements/garages with low ceilings. The 83" just fits with my ceilings.
Similar situation as this. Does anyone know if a RM-6 can be custom ordered shorter than 90 and still work with the cable system?
I love the excitement in your voice talking about gym equipment. Nice work, as always.
was thinking the same thing lol
literally shopping between these two functional trainers right now. This video came just in time, thanks Coop!
What u getting?
Rogue is made in the USA. Enough said. That’s why I bought it.
I bought REP. They are so far ahead in the cable attachment game and their quality and packaging is really good.
The REP showroom is only like an hour from my house so I'll go check the Ares 2.0 there in person when it gets in at the end of the summer. And probably make a decision after that. I got long arms so the added width of the Rogue might sell it for me
I went the REP route with the PR-5000 rack and limited edition Ares 2.0
Coop you've gotta do a video on how you clean your garage gym, and best ways to keep it nice
Leaf blower
I got the Ares 1.0 because they dropped the price to approximately $800 less than the listed price. I know the 2.0 is much more improved, but I can deal with the low row being so close to the ground and how far apart they are for $800 less. I can't be happier with my purchase.
So how much would I be for the 1.0 out the door with 30+16 rack? Iam really considering selling my titan selectorized lat pull down, my inspire FT and my manticore rack.
You my friend are very smart lol
@@futbol1972
I spent $3500 in total for PR 4000, Ares, rounded J-cup, spotter arms, and 3 weight horns. I got the 80", 16x24.
@@futbol1972Around 4200 and up.
Honestly, your reviews have been so incredibly helpful. I am researching what I would like to upgrade to in the future, from dumbbells and a weight bench. Your energy & excitement is palpable and permeates not only your demeanor but your in depth and detailed honest reviews of the equipment. I thought I would just get a little here and there from Amazon later on when I was ready to upgrade, but now you have me drooling over Rogue and REP Racks. Thank you!!!! And when I am ready and have the dedicated space, I promise to get horse stall mats and not those cheap spongey ones (that I may or may not be using now 🤣) Thanks, Coop!!
I ordered the Ares 2.0 today through your link. Thank you for your reviews!
This is the type of video I need. Don’t own a house yet but will circle back😂
Looking for functional trainer with smith machine
I am in the middle of building my Rogue 43” Twin Stack Functional Trainer (100” height in Burnt Orange since the rack is next to all of our KTM bikes) and am beyond IMPRESSED with the quality of EVERYTHING - Packaging - perfect, not a single ding or scratch, everything labeled and accounted for; Assembly instructions - while I’m only halfway through, it’s been a flawless assembly so far. We are just going slow because it’s still super hot here (SW UT and no mini split in the garage yet) and we like to MTB or dirt bike in the morning before we start work on our “erector set”; Build quality - again, so amazing. Everything is machined perfectly, fits perfectly, slides when it should slide and stays in place when it shouldn’t slide; Engineering - you can tell some serious thought went into the design of this product and how it all goes together while leaving options for future modifications.
Side note: I also ordered a bunch of the “6 Shooter machined grip plates” but they were out of the 45# ones, so I got the Bells of Steel 45# grip plates. While the Bells of Steel plates are very nice and easy to move around, the Rogue 6 Shooter plates are just beautiful and I love them already. But the BoS plates were a lot cheaper so I would highly recommend them to anyone looking for good looking grip plates without breaking the bank.
Hi, I’m looking at the same thing, but height restricted to the 90.” There’s not a lot of reviews or comments online. Do you think the 43” depth is worth the walkout or do you think 30” would have been better? I wouldn’t want smaller than that, but it seems like 36” would be the sweet spot. Just trying to figure it out for myself. I would be using the Rogue Safety Strap System 2.0 rather than Spotter Arms
@@matt009817 I personally like the 43” depth but I hate feeling constricted and our garage is huge so we weren’t worried about fitting into the space. We also got the safety strap 2.0 and like them a lot.
I bought mine prior to these announcements. I went with the clear coat 6-post PR-5000 93” height, 41” depth. Selectorized dual Athena with the selectorized lat pulldown and low row + weight stack upgrades, wing add-on dumbbell storage 2.0 on both sides.
How do you like the low row? I’m looking at getting that now for my Athena setup. A gym pin on one stack just isn’t cutting it! 😂
@@reachco_andrew it’s decent. The lat pulldown is better, but the low row is good and does what it needs to do. I recommend an adjustable bench with a decline so you don’t have to sit on the floor.
Roughly how much does such a setup cost? Are you looking at 5 grand or 10 grand or what?
What is Athena compared to Ares?
Hey Brian, how do you like it? Do you have the exact measurements for depth? I got about 60 inches to work with in the garage. Concerned it will not fit
I have a rogue drop in rhino and I asked about if they could do dual stack on the side with the pulleys. All I would need is for them to make the footplate for the rhino with holes to allow the stacks on, they said they were coming out with something along that design soon.
Exciting stuff
A weight stack loaded rhino would need to start each rep at the bottom, wouldn't it?
I’m interested in this as well. Ordered the FM6-twin and hopefully they can figure out the rhino set up.
@@jamiesoncostello wouldn’t be a weight stack loaded rhino, it would be a normal
Drop in rhino with a 150lbs weight stack on each side of the rack.
You currently can’t do this unless they change the footplate of the rhino to allow the side weight stacks to go on. That footplate covers the attachment points for the guide-rods. I am half tempted to just have mine altered to allow the guide rods to attach
@@cameronharris86 that sounds dope. Curious to hear your thoughts on it
Will report back when it arrives.
Got the ares 2.0 on pre order first day. Got a rep rack when the first ares came out with the intention to buy the ares in the future. Can’t wait.
When you get around to reviewing the Rogue FM, please show how well (or poorly) it works with Rogue's safety straps. I expect they are incompatible (or at least really inconvenient). Thanks Coop!
Already have a Rogue setup. Emailed their sales and they said they would build out a custom order to make use of my existing stack. So that's the route I'm going.
Dang, I might have to check with them again. I tried a month or two ago and they said they weren’t able to accommodate that yet.
I just messaged them to see if I can do the same thing
Ares 2.0 for me i appreciate more the 2-1 pulley ratio for some light work 🏋️♀️
Coop, one aspect of 49" vs 47" that I don't see mentioned often is if you're tall or long-limbed having a wider inside can allow more elbow/knee room for benching and squatting and not hitting the safeties with wider stances/positions. I'm 6ft tall and MUCH prefer a wider interior rack, the small size difference is actually quite noticeable in use.
I hear ya. I'm not even six foot, have Rogue's RM6 and even with the 49" width I find myself occasionally making contact with my safeties during certain exercises, certain positioning etc. I can't imagine what things might be like with less interior width, even if it's only two inches. Right now, it's a rare occurrence and more of a distraction when it does happen. With two less inches I could see it potentially being a problem.
I'm so glad there are so many options to choose from with racks nowadays
I hear you. My first home gym in 1990 was crap equipment from Champ sports. Bench broke in just a couple months. The stuff out there now via the internet is just incredible. It's come so far.
I went with a Rep 6 post rack and the Ares 1 since there was no other option back in 2023 when I built my home gym. Dude…I couldn’t be happier!!
Perfect video. Rep Ares 2 is designed better for the future
How so?
@Brendonherring522 Attachments like new jammer arms and stuff with the cables coming from the bottom now. They prepping for the future.
I PO’d the ares 2.0
The pullies at the bottom for rogues are just too low seems like they have the same issue the first ares has but also the double cables at for the lat pulldown for reps are something I prefer
Also need to save more space in my garage lol
I went the REP route with the PR-5000 and limited edition Ares 2.0
Bro! How do you like it? That’s the same set up that im thinking about going with
@@PhillipHarnage-l6c love the rack, Ares 2.0 ships next month
What did this setup cost?
Do you have a pic of it all set up?
@@jonathanryding1664 the Ares 2.0 doesn't ship until later this month
We are so lucky to have access to this level of engineering at the consumer level. Competition is great!💪🏾
You are a legend, Coop! When are you expecting to have them in for review? This video is v helpful but am waiting for you to use them before deciding.
Currently leaning towards the twin stack FM-HR from Rogue.
I like the comparison. It’s interesting to see the b-roll cuts and camera angles as well. This is like podcast Coop. 💪
I went with Rep 2.0 Ares as Rogue doesn’t have a short king version. I wish I had space for the taller one but next house with have the 9 foot ceiling and problem solved. Then I’ll probably just buy taller uprights and then use the shorter ones for storage wings like they’re making now.
Coop you are simply the man. I’ve appreciated your videos since pre-Covid and started me on my home gym journey. I think I know what eco-system I’m leaning towards and it’s because of your energy and thoughts. Keep it up and if you ever need a supply chain manager give me a shout out😃😁
Rogue 4-post, 100”, FM-HR.
‘Merica.
Thanks Coop for your hard work and enthusiasm. You’ve become a trusted source for equipment education in a not-so-trustworthy world.
Finally the video I’ve been waiting for!!! I’m a bodybuilder so I’m leaning REP for the double pulleys, but I like made in America plus I want a dang belt squat! Might just have to get a standalone lol
Lfggg been waiting on this one, haven’t even got into the meat of it yet but thank you Coop!
I messaged rogue about the dual stack (on two different occasions) and was told the individual stacks will be 150lbs each totaling the same as the single stack.
Also as a side note, the plate loaded has a 800lbs weight limit. The limiting factor being the cable.
To add more context, I order the single stack with 300lbs weight stack. I was told the twin stack is the same as the single stack just with two 150lbs stacks* vs a 300lbs stack on the single.
With all the talks of a rhino drop in for the FM series, I wonder how that will work with only a 300lbs stack. I was also told the plate loaded has a 800lbs weight limit (the cables being the limiting factor).
It seems the best bet would be opt for plate loaded to prepare for the Rhino drop in as this would allow up to 800lbs for a belt squat. I am thinking of changing my single stack to either the plate loaded or dual stack. I plan to call Rogue tomorrow to discuss further. Curious to hear others thoughts.
*the two 150lbs stacks came from Rogue customer service on two different occasions.
I was looking at the Prime Prodigy a couple years ago, then put my research on hold... now I just learned Rogue came out with a functional trainer/power rack combo. My homework starts over. Would love a comparison/review of those!
Chiken story is funny man lol. Nothing better than having a family and having chickens 🐓 😂😂😂.
Thank you for this Coop!
I really want that Rogue FM-HR Twin stack. Just wishes they’d find a way to incorporate the rhino belt squat. Id buy it immediately
Just bought the Rogue Twin Stack. The quality of my Rogue Rhino gives me confidence to enter their ecosystem. Just wish they were faster at innovation
I already have a REP rack so will be sticking with that
REP has been crushing the home gym strength scene for years now. And their new cardio looks innovative too. Rogue is too busy making overpriced bars/plates with nfl stickers. But that doesn't seem to be working since they sold some of their new cable attachments but had to drop their price weeks after launch. Seems desperate.
Great preview, looking forward to a use comparison video
I bought the Rogue add-on dual stack functional trainer for my monster rack. I bought it with zero reviews posted. It will supposedly be here in 2-3 weeks. I’m excited but also worried.
I did the same in late May. Looking forward too its arrival. Not worried at all, becoming impatient! I expect mine in 2-3 weeks as well.
I’m not in the market, I just enjoy watching reviews from the Monopoly guy. 😂
I love Rogue products and customer support. I also love Reps products customer support and how freaking fast my items fly in. Don’t make me choose between them. I love my Rogue Rep Frankenstein rack. Keyholes allowed me to utilize 5/8 holes and there’s basically no attachment that doesn’t fit.
love this! as a current RM-6 + drop in belt squat owner, has Rogue hinted when they will release a version of the functional trainer that integrates with this setup?
Coop, been trying to decide on a functional trainer/smith for like 6 months. Would love to see a review on the 3 in 1 smith from Vesta! That thing looks like a beast. Also, would like to see a comparison on the more budget friendly Spirit B52 from Major Fitness. Hope this comment finds you! Lol
Not sure if this is a scam or not, but wanted to make you guys aware of this @GarageGymReviews. If not, what does this mean? Lol
When rep or rogue has an option with a smith machine built in, I'll buy then
Why doesn’t Rogue sell a twin functional trainer “add-on” option for 4 post monster racks. I messaged Rogue about this and they basically said that I had to convert my rack to a 6 post or buy the entire functional trainer. Thanks for supporting customers who bought into your monster ecosystem… make it make sense.
Agreed. they sell a 4 post twin FT but won't sell it as an add on.
Message them again and talk to custom order department. They quoted me $3150 + tax for 100” height, 24” depth, aluminum pulleys and shrouds for my 4 post monster rack
@@BrandonSchwartz1 Thanks!
Would love to see you compare the Force USA G15 Pro with these 2!
REP currently is my only option as a basement dweller. I'm hoping for a smith machine attachment similar to what ForceUSA has as that would be a peak home gym rack.
I have an RM-3 currently, so I'm leaning toward Rogue so that I don't have to sell it and buy a whole new rack. Rogue quoted me ~$4,800 (after tax and shipping) for the conversion kit to the FM-6 Twin stack, and that's also including the $300 rack roller that looks really useful
I prefer to buy American made products whenever possible but was thinking REP would be the better choice because they have been so innovative but when you consider the pricing along with the fact I prefer a 49" wide rack, Rogue is the clear choice for me. I haven't seen either of them in person but even though the Rogue has heavier trolley's they sure look like they would be smoother and last longer. Thanks for the thorough review.
Coop! Could you do a Force USA leg press review please? Side by side review of the compact and full size versions.
Hands down, I own 3 Rep PR-5000's and can tell you that there is no substitute for variety and co-hesive unity for a rack eco-system... Almost everyone makes compatible attachments for The Rep Eco-system. Once you own the best, you'll understand PERIOD!!!
REP has been crushing it for years with cable attachments. Ares. Adonis. Arcadia. Lat pull down and low row. Etc. Where rogue has had limited options and the slinger was awful. Maybe they started innovating again. Who knows.
Regarding cable placement (and, obviously, acknowledging that one cable will be on the front of the upright and the other will be behind), Coop mentioned that he prefers the Rep configuration (lower cable is on the front of the rack). I wish he had acknowledged that this could be problematic for spotter arms extended from the front of the rack (and yes, i know there are workaround solutions, such as lowering the trolley below the spotter arms - or - mounting the spotter arms from an inside-out orientation). Still, for most purposes, it seems the Rogue setup is better for spotter arms.
dat moustache twirl you got goin is cool af bro, thanks again for another sick video
Wonder if Ares will next add a Smith machine to it's 2.0, perhaps a 3.0 (similar to Vesta's 3-in-1)?
I'm still waiting for a Rhino weight stack version 😮💨
Been waiting for this one since Rep came out with theirs - was waiting for Rogue to introduce one and wait on your review - lol 1year+ wait lol
I wish when I got my squat rack 3 years ago, that this many options were around
The FM HR (single stack) is completely irrelevant unless the rhino is very important to the user. It's unnecessarily deep (+22") meanwhile the Twin is comparable to the Ares and is only 5" deeper. If you're going to use the back posts for plate storage, then the Ares and Twin are equal but the single stack sticks out beyond your plate storage.
Still waiting on the 4 post twin FT add on to drop. They only have the FM-6 twin add on available. If they have the 4 post twin FT available with the uprights, they should sell it without the uprights as well since some of us can convert our existing racks.
You can reach out to Rogue directly for a quote on a 4 post. They quoted me $3150 + tax for 100” height, 24” depth, aluminum pulleys with the shrouds.
@@BrandonSchwartz1 That's just the same price as the FM-6 twin add on even though there's less extension pieces. That said, it matches up with the FML HR (SS) 4 post add on compared to the FML HR 6 (SS) post add on.
@@momotart no idea 🤷♂️
I'm leaning heavily towards Rep. They're built well enough and I like the large amount of options that they have. I can handle slightly inferior craftsmanship as long as it is still quality work.
Would be cool to see the ROGUE FM-6 FT plate loaded + Voltra I. Seems like Beyond power got the Twin mode figured out.
Thank goodness I'm not ready to buy one yet because now I'm not sure which one to get. Didn't realize Rogue was that close in price!
The Rogue twin stack and Rep Ares 2.0 can both be the same distance from the wall if using the rear columns for weight storage.
Went with the Rep Ares 2.0 and PR-5000 set up. Waiting for the ares 2.0 to ship currently.
I feel you Basement Brandon. -Basement Sam
I would really like to see you get a hold of the plate loaded rogue FM and see how belt squats work with it. it looks like you could just attach a belt to the low row and it would work. the selectorized doesn't look like it would work for it though as the stack goes to far into the rack and too close to the low row mount
When are we getting a hands-on review of the Rogue?
I’d like this same technology in a Cave and/or Hyperion set up. It’s a little shallower and wider.
Big question on the Rogue side is will they deliver to a residence. When pricing out a cable tower system for my garage gym, Rogue said I'd either need a loading dock or had to rent a fork lift for any of their non-slinger stack options. Rep didn't seem to have those limitations. Kind glad I waiting to pull the trigger to see these newer options though and might have to reconsider my choices... then convince the wife too.
I'm waiting for your in depth review to pull the trigger on one of these.
What about Prime Fitness Rack, would you pick that over these two? Thank You!
Too expensive imo.
@@raven-19x Thank You
I'm going with Rogue. I think for the money you get just a little more.
As I have both a Rep PR5000 (w/ 2 Athena’s and lat pulldown) and Rogue Monster rack with the Rhino I’ was hoping that Rogue found a way to incorporate the Rhino into this, but their lack of innovation is really the reason I’ve invested so much more into Rep recently.
I am poised and ready to buy whichever one comes to Australia first. C'mooooooon!!!!!!!
We want dip attachement comparaison
Coop we need you to pick one I wanted the rogue because I feel like the attachments are better quality but the rep 2.0 looks sick I'm confused now. Please pick the best . I'm leaning towards rogue but I trust your judgment.
I am wanting to upgrade from my PRX folding rack to the Ares 2.0…..but I would love to add the PRX Halo Arms to the Ares 2.0
Yup I’m stilling deciding on the 2. I would be buying everything from 1 company. After watching the video , the fact rogue might have lowered thier price to compete where as rep has definitely increased price. I leaning towards rogue now
2.0 is same price as 1.0 has been for two years. Not bad considering inflation
Can you do an updated Rogue Rhino review/ overview? You always say you love it but what is it that makes you love it so much? Would you recommend stand-alone or add-on that’s coming out?
Did Rogue increase the price of their fm-6 functional trainer. I have it in my cart at $6,200?
I love how rep has a low ceiling option. If rogue had that option then they would take away a lot of reps business
Id like to see a comparison with the Maxum SX2.
Yeah, GGR is way too fixated on Rep and Rogue. The articulating cable arms on the SX2 and ATX Monster 2.0 make both these racks look outdated already
Man love your reviews and videos. Building my gym and now I'm to the functional trainer. Last basic piece. I need help my problem is I am 6'10" with a 7 foot wingspan. Any clue on which functional trainer will be best for me because I would love something compact but I'm way too big for it I think. Any suggestions would be helpful
Tbh i think the biggest difference is the stacks on the rogue being on the sides vs Rep's being in tbe back of the rack. Personally i think Rep is a clear winner but i also really prefer thw weight atacks in the back of the power rack instead of on tbe sides.
Primal Pro Series Monster Rack System: that is cute video… hold my beer
I really want one of them to make some sort of insertable smith machine attachment.
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I have Rogue equipment. ML rack, 29mm and 28mm bars, 15kg bar, deep dish plates. Don’t care that I could have saved a few $$. Buy American!!!
When will you review Jacked Up Brands/Fitness?
The pics of each system at the 1:00 mark is labeled incorrectly.
I would be curious on a build list of all the actual options you choose for each. Ive been waiting to pull the trigger on these but so many different options lol
I keep seeing ads on Facebook and IG from GMWD fitness, is their equipment any good? Any plans to review them?
you need to do a follow-up on Kensui: they are scammers. They took my money in MAY and kept giving me the runaround on shipping. It still hasn't shipped, and now they are refusing to give my money back (I got the maxes btw). I'm not the only one. I got them based on your endorsement, but they are scammers. You need to do a follow-up stating that many of their customers have been stiffed.
Sounds like the Ares 2.0 is overall the better option: Heavier weight stack, smaller footprint, easier to use/smoother trolly system, more convenient cable routing on the trolly, dual pulleys add more versatility, low row allows using a bench as an option, and it's a cheaper price. Plus, I think it looks more badass. So extra point for style. Not really seeing a reason to consider Rogue over Rep here unless someone either wants the Rogue model that can be used with the Rhino, or is a stickler for buying products that are made is the US.
When will Ares 2.0 be available for purchase in EU?
Bulletproof vts lite and vts review when???
Please 🙏🏾
Given the cable twist issue with the Ares 1.0, I would choose Rogue all day
Ok great video, but knowing what you know right now what would you choose??!?
I ordered the FM6-twin. Do you think they’ll be able to figure out the Rhino drop in for the twin stack version?
For those of us like me that are completely new to Home Gyms, I would benefit from a very general summary of what to look for what not to look for. For example should I be looking at the half racks or the full racks? These are half racks?