I've also got a 24 T7. Had mine 7 months now. I'm short 5'8 and overweight (250 lbs in full gear), and old (50 something, i try to forget that part). It does take alot to learn how to handle this bike at slow speeds and on uneven terrain. I run mostly gravel forest roads and ATV trails. Sometimes a short commute to work (10 miles). It was somewhat of a handful at first, but I love the bike. It will be in my garage for life. Subscribed.
@@box510motorcycles3 I think the motorcycle community is getting a little relaxed from what it means to ride a bike properly. Most all motorcycles take a degree of skill and concentration that most don't understand. All bikes have corks that require more attention than most vehicles on the road. None of them are "easy" to handle. I'm glad you enjoy it stay safe brother.
@jmac03black i currently have 3 bikes in my garage. The 24 T7, a 2010 KLX 250, and a 2015 Ninja 1000 abs (sport tour version not zx10). All 3 bikes ride very differently. I don't understand people who within the first few weeks of ownership feel the need to change the entire suspension, change the brake pedal, change the levers, ect, ect, ect, because they claim it doesn't "feel right". I believe it rides like a T7. Not a ninja, not a KLX, not a KTM 790, not a GS1290. The different feel of the bikes gives them their "flavor". But what do I know?
That throttle snatch is common on cable EFI. I think it’s one of the few advantages carbs still have over fuel injection. I’ve considered consolidating my two bikes and getting this or a vstrom 800. I think it’s powered that way to keep it under stressed and keep it Yamaha reliable. Long haul Paul has 180k miles on his. Nice review man!
I'm an off roader and I bought one. It's a fun bike, but I sold it. I like the bigger ridiculous fast bikes more. I can still get them into stupid places where people look at you like you're an alien riding that thing. But honestly I have so much more fun on these big bastards on the street than off-road. Out in the sticks you just brake shit and keep dreaming about that 2 stroke sitting home in the garage, and how much more fun it'd be. That's why I sold the Yammi for something more exciting, don't really care if it's "great off road" or just OK. I'll still take it there if I need to!
Corrections: 1. When i referenced BMW reliability, i was refering to KTM. 2. For the tidy tail, i have the ALT Rider rack mounted above the tail, not below it. This is why its slightly higher than the seat level.
I completely agree with your take on the T7 horsepower and the reliability trade off. The KTM 890 is probably the best example of what you'll get when you push the limit. I've considered sending my T7's ECU to BT Moto. They advertise a 4HP increase but idk if its worth messing with a bullet proof design.
These are extremely capable off road. I know its not a dirt bike but still a great bike all around. Once you're done off road, its no problem jumping back on the interstate to head home. People knock the road use of this bike, but in my opinion it's great all around.
@@Sventy11 I have thoroughly enjoyed the road on this bike. I'm not sure what people are expecting on the highway. It easily accelerates and cruises at plenty of speed. The bike's acceleration is comparable to a 450 HP car. If you need more than that, you are on the wrong type of motorcycle.
Great accurate review of the T7 …… I’m enjoying mine so far. The bike has some subpar stock parts but that’s to be expected for the $10k price point they were aiming for. For me the motor feels really unimpressive even though it does everything it’s supposed to do and like you mentioned hits 100 easily and holds 75-80 with no issues, it just does it all in a very mellow fashion …… Im starting go tj throw some aftermarket love at mine to get it more comfy and exciting for daily commute and future motocamping etc
@ I threw on some inexpensive AliExpress online exhaust on mine, sounds awesome, weighs 300 pounds less than the stick can but not much performance gain noticed but I didn’t expect a lot from the cheap pricing ….
47000 km on my 2022 T7. No problems at all, valves at 40k service didnt need adjustment, still in spec. I run a HP Corse high mount exhaust, no modfication to the frame necessary. Acerbis plastic skid plate. Prototype Team(instagram) Explorer combined higher windshield and headlight protection screen. I also relocated my rear turnsignals to the rear light assembly (drilled a hole each side of it) Just for considerations.
@@jmac03black It is the Explorer windscreen, it’s 7cm higher than the OEM screen. Im 177cm and have no problem with windbuffering on highways with this screen. But windbuffering also depends on how the wind passes the rear view mirrors, not just the front screen.
@@davidlane9724 I am planning to get a lot of miles on mine this next year. I'm slowly researching some camping gear, I'm hoping to reignite my camping love on the bike.
@@jmac03blackit shouldn't. Africa did it,and price did not go up. But at the end,i rather pay few bucks more for that. With tube is a dealbreaker for me. Never again😊
I once saw a guy on a 125 beat a 500 2 stroke in a drag race. There was also a guy on UA-cam who compared a T7 against a 90-100hp bmw or ktm, cant remember which but he was faster on the T7 on a timed 100m dirt track. So all these people that talk hp, dirt is a great equalizer. The CP2 is such an awesome motor with usable power. On a ride I did awhile back there was tricky little hill climb, 3 big ktms needed several attempts to get up. It was easy on the T7. When they were all at the top there was a big discussion on which traction control settings they were using and why they failed. I was sitting on the T7 and just smiled. Good review.
100% agree with the clutch/gearbox. The dealer where I bought it from said it was normal but I took it to another dealer and there was an issue with the clutch. It was awful to ride when cold, starting the from cold in gear and the bike would jump forward pretty bad. Took the shine off this bike for me. Still not sure if I want to keep it or move it on.
@@iangriffiths9930 the issue is a coating they used on some of the newer models clutch discs. They will most likely recall them, but it's a simple fix. I ordered new clutch plates and put them in when I did my last service. My dealer has agreed to credit me for my time and parts once the recall happens. No issues now.
I've got the nicecnc foot pegs and they are pretty tough...get you a rally raid rear spring 95nm and some stoltec drop in fork springs 75nm...you'll notice the difference...! around $300 all together shipping and all... it really helps it to be a 70/30 bike...after that a tusk bash plate, barkbusters and camel adv 1 finger clutch....it's a nice improvement ... rear bake is fine just get some new pads also from camel...pretty good review
@@jmac03black yup...took about 4 hours..I bought a spring compressor from tusk.. removing the rear shock/sping is pretty easy....front fork spring's easy as well.. I needed a extra hand for the forks to get it all buttoned back up...you don't remove the forks just open the top pull old out drop new in... there are a few video's on youtube with each of those products
Thank you for the review. I am looking at the Honda 300 Rally but saw a Grey T7 look great. New rider her I am 6ft 3in 230lbs I am not full off-road but want do trails not rocks... I will go check on the T7...
@@tonyjones629 The 300 is a fantastic dual sport. At your size and weight, the suspension might be a little soft. If you want to ride at highway speeds it will struggle a little. But, back roads and trails it's perfect.
@@Productificados I am well aware. However, I doubt anyone seeing this can do 20% of what he does. Also just because he can, doesn't mean he should. It's worth noting, he has very heavily modified his suspension.
i really like this bike,and i had some yamahas dual sport(xt600,tt600),but as an 80% on road guy,i ll go for the 2025 transalp.plus the 20 more hp on the transalp counts...
@@majorlee1 I appreciate the comments. I get bogged down by the personalities on UA-cam. I do not personally believe most of us should take too much advice from people that make a living off of UA-cam and manufacturers. Several UA-camrs claim they do not get paid, but I find that hard to believe no matter what they say.
I agree brother! Social media is a sewer nowadays for the most part. I work hard for my money and appreciate a real no BS review of something I am considering buying. 👍
I have the same tail tidy. Riding in mud and rain splashes the passenger seat, back pack or back of your jacket. I'm gonna change it for one that sticks out further back.
@@aaronhoffman9376 It is the AltRider rack. I chose it because of the way it mounts. I wanted something that streamlined with the rear seat, and didn't bolt to the rear tie down knobs. I plan to put rackless side plates there. I'm very happy with it, and it is rock solid.
wish it had tubeless.. we live offroad in the Mojave desert and punctures are a way of life... need to be able to plug and go and not take a whole wheel off the rim and mess with a tube...
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I would prefer tubeless wheels as well for the type of riding I do. However, I think that would push the cost of the bike up above the Aprilia, and that would hurt sales pretty bad. The Aprilia is already a superior bike with the exception of reliability and price.
I think with the 25 model upgrades and the chain supply moving again, used bikes are going to pop up all over with little to no mileage. May be able to grab one cheap.
Now is a very good time to buy dual sports and adv bikes. Dealers can't get rid of them. I just got a new 2024 T7 for $8650, no negotiation. KTM 690's, Husky 701's, and GasGas 700's are going for 2k below MSRP. The 500's are all gone now but there are a bunch of good deals. Soft demand, over production and new model years hitting the floor are killing dealers
I have a fresh T7 in my garage right now. Subscribed.
I've also got a 24 T7. Had mine 7 months now. I'm short 5'8 and overweight (250 lbs in full gear), and old (50 something, i try to forget that part). It does take alot to learn how to handle this bike at slow speeds and on uneven terrain. I run mostly gravel forest roads and ATV trails. Sometimes a short commute to work (10 miles). It was somewhat of a handful at first, but I love the bike. It will be in my garage for life. Subscribed.
@@box510motorcycles3 I think the motorcycle community is getting a little relaxed from what it means to ride a bike properly. Most all motorcycles take a degree of skill and concentration that most don't understand. All bikes have corks that require more attention than most vehicles on the road. None of them are "easy" to handle. I'm glad you enjoy it stay safe brother.
@jmac03black i currently have 3 bikes in my garage. The 24 T7, a 2010 KLX 250, and a 2015 Ninja 1000 abs (sport tour version not zx10). All 3 bikes ride very differently. I don't understand people who within the first few weeks of ownership feel the need to change the entire suspension, change the brake pedal, change the levers, ect, ect, ect, because they claim it doesn't "feel right". I believe it rides like a T7. Not a ninja, not a KLX, not a KTM 790, not a GS1290. The different feel of the bikes gives them their "flavor". But what do I know?
That throttle snatch is common on cable EFI. I think it’s one of the few advantages carbs still have over fuel injection. I’ve considered consolidating my two bikes and getting this or a vstrom 800. I think it’s powered that way to keep it under stressed and keep it Yamaha reliable. Long haul Paul has 180k miles on his. Nice review man!
I'm an off roader and I bought one. It's a fun bike, but I sold it. I like the bigger ridiculous fast bikes more. I can still get them into stupid places where people look at you like you're an alien riding that thing. But honestly I have so much more fun on these big bastards on the street than off-road. Out in the sticks you just brake shit and keep dreaming about that 2 stroke sitting home in the garage, and how much more fun it'd be. That's why I sold the Yammi for something more exciting, don't really care if it's "great off road" or just OK. I'll still take it there if I need to!
Corrections:
1. When i referenced BMW reliability, i was refering to KTM.
2. For the tidy tail, i have the ALT Rider rack mounted above the tail, not below it. This is why its slightly higher than the seat level.
I completely agree with your take on the T7 horsepower and the reliability trade off. The KTM 890 is probably the best example of what you'll get when you push the limit.
I've considered sending my T7's ECU to BT Moto. They advertise a 4HP increase but idk if its worth messing with a bullet proof design.
@@thomasfinch5605I'm not sure 4 hp will be noticable, however overall smoothing the fuel map and adding power would be awesome.
These are extremely capable off road. I know its not a dirt bike but still a great bike all around. Once you're done off road, its no problem jumping back on the interstate to head home. People knock the road use of this bike, but in my opinion it's great all around.
@@Sventy11 I have thoroughly enjoyed the road on this bike. I'm not sure what people are expecting on the highway. It easily accelerates and cruises at plenty of speed. The bike's acceleration is comparable to a 450 HP car. If you need more than that, you are on the wrong type of motorcycle.
Great accurate review of the T7 ……
I’m enjoying mine so far. The bike has some subpar stock parts but that’s to be expected for the $10k price point they were aiming for.
For me the motor feels really unimpressive even though it does everything it’s supposed to do and like you mentioned hits 100 easily and holds 75-80 with no issues, it just does it all in a very mellow fashion ……
Im starting go tj throw some aftermarket love at mine to get it more comfy and exciting for daily commute and future motocamping etc
@@Adventure_Ready_Life I hope you enjoy it. Some suspension adjustments and and exhaust will make the bike feel more lively.
@ I threw on some inexpensive AliExpress online exhaust on mine, sounds awesome, weighs 300 pounds less than the stick can but not much performance gain noticed but I didn’t expect a lot from the cheap pricing ….
On the market for one. Great video, thank you. Very honest and informative. Seems to me the pros outweigh the cons.
47000 km on my 2022 T7. No problems at all, valves at 40k service didnt need adjustment, still in spec. I run a HP Corse high mount exhaust, no modfication to the frame necessary. Acerbis plastic skid plate. Prototype Team(instagram) Explorer combined higher windshield and headlight protection screen. I also relocated my rear turnsignals to the rear light assembly (drilled a hole each side of it)
Just for considerations.
@@Lightemup2005 how does your toddler windscreen do on the highway?
@@jmac03black It is the Explorer windscreen, it’s 7cm higher than the OEM screen. Im 177cm and have no problem with windbuffering on highways with this screen. But windbuffering also depends on how the wind passes the rear view mirrors, not just the front screen.
Great video I bought one last month.
@@davidlane9724 I am planning to get a lot of miles on mine this next year. I'm slowly researching some camping gear, I'm hoping to reignite my camping love on the bike.
I agree with you. CT would be nice,but tubeless should be "must". Really can't see myself to change tube on way to work. 😊
@@1jodlar tubeless would be great but I think that would push the MSRP too high.
@@jmac03blackit shouldn't. Africa did it,and price did not go up. But at the end,i rather pay few bucks more for that. With tube is a dealbreaker for me. Never again😊
@1jodlar agree, no tubeless, no sale... were offroad in the mojave... punctures are a way of life... tubeless is a must for plug and go
Just got mine yesterday. Loving it. The thing about adventure bikes is they are decent at everything and great at nothing. I think that's fair.
I once saw a guy on a 125 beat a 500 2 stroke in a drag race. There was also a guy on UA-cam who compared a T7 against a 90-100hp bmw or ktm, cant remember which but he was faster on the T7 on a timed 100m dirt track. So all these people that talk hp, dirt is a great equalizer. The CP2 is such an awesome motor with usable power. On a ride I did awhile back there was tricky little hill climb, 3 big ktms needed several attempts to get up. It was easy on the T7. When they were all at the top there was a big discussion on which traction control settings they were using and why they failed. I was sitting on the T7 and just smiled. Good review.
Most non dirt riders misunderstand traction and how too much power can blow through it.
Hell ya
100% agree with the clutch/gearbox.
The dealer where I bought it from said it was normal but I took it to another dealer and there was an issue with the clutch. It was awful to ride when cold, starting the from cold in gear and the bike would jump forward pretty bad.
Took the shine off this bike for me.
Still not sure if I want to keep it or move it on.
@@iangriffiths9930 the issue is a coating they used on some of the newer models clutch discs. They will most likely recall them, but it's a simple fix. I ordered new clutch plates and put them in when I did my last service. My dealer has agreed to credit me for my time and parts once the recall happens. No issues now.
I've got the nicecnc foot pegs and they are pretty tough...get you a rally raid rear spring 95nm and some stoltec drop in fork springs 75nm...you'll notice the difference...! around $300 all together shipping and all... it really helps it to be a 70/30 bike...after that a tusk bash plate, barkbusters and camel adv 1 finger clutch....it's a nice improvement ... rear bake is fine just get some new pads also from camel...pretty good review
Did you do the suspension mods yourself?
@@jmac03black yup...took about 4 hours..I bought a spring compressor from tusk.. removing the rear shock/sping is pretty easy....front fork spring's easy as well.. I needed a extra hand for the forks to get it all buttoned back up...you don't remove the forks just open the top pull old out drop new in... there are a few video's on youtube with each of those products
Thank you for the review. I am looking at the Honda 300 Rally but saw a Grey T7 look great. New rider her I am 6ft 3in 230lbs I am not full off-road but want do trails not rocks... I will go check on the T7...
@@tonyjones629 The 300 is a fantastic dual sport. At your size and weight, the suspension might be a little soft. If you want to ride at highway speeds it will struggle a little. But, back roads and trails it's perfect.
"If you're gonna be Pol Tarres this isn't the bike for you"... Like, Pol Tarres does hard enduro on a T7 what are you talking about. 🤣🤣🤣
@@Productificados I am well aware. However, I doubt anyone seeing this can do 20% of what he does. Also just because he can, doesn't mean he should. It's worth noting, he has very heavily modified his suspension.
i really like this bike,and i had some yamahas dual sport(xt600,tt600),but as an 80% on road guy,i ll go for the 2025 transalp.plus the 20 more hp on the transalp counts...
@@thodoris3790 The Honda is a fine bike. Nothing wrong with it, especially if you will be mostly on road.
Get a chain guide, get the OEM ones, just put one on mine.
Good review by a real damn person not getting paid to say stupid shit. Thank you man!
@@majorlee1 I appreciate the comments. I get bogged down by the personalities on UA-cam. I do not personally believe most of us should take too much advice from people that make a living off of UA-cam and manufacturers. Several UA-camrs claim they do not get paid, but I find that hard to believe no matter what they say.
I agree brother! Social media is a sewer nowadays for the most part. I work hard for my money and appreciate a real no BS review of something I am considering buying. 👍
I have the same tail tidy. Riding in mud and rain splashes the passenger seat, back pack or back of your jacket. I'm gonna change it for one that sticks out further back.
@@teutonman7018 I have noticed a little bit of stuff being thrown back onto me. I could probably use the lower bolt holes for an extension.
Hi mate what brand is your rear rack?
@@aaronhoffman9376 It is the AltRider rack. I chose it because of the way it mounts. I wanted something that streamlined with the rear seat, and didn't bolt to the rear tie down knobs. I plan to put rackless side plates there. I'm very happy with it, and it is rock solid.
@ thanks mate it looks good 👍🏼
wish it had tubeless.. we live offroad in the Mojave desert and punctures are a way of life... need to be able to plug and go and not take a whole wheel off the rim and mess with a tube...
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I would prefer tubeless wheels as well for the type of riding I do. However, I think that would push the cost of the bike up above the Aprilia, and that would hurt sales pretty bad. The Aprilia is already a superior bike with the exception of reliability and price.
I think it's a beautiful bike, I just can't afford it.
I think with the 25 model upgrades and the chain supply moving again, used bikes are going to pop up all over with little to no mileage. May be able to grab one cheap.
Now is a very good time to buy dual sports and adv bikes. Dealers can't get rid of them. I just got a new 2024 T7 for $8650, no negotiation. KTM 690's, Husky 701's, and GasGas 700's are going for 2k below MSRP. The 500's are all gone now but there are a bunch of good deals. Soft demand, over production and new model years hitting the floor are killing dealers
check out a stock windscreen adjuster, cheaper and more practical
@@10041998able I've seen a few and I've wondered how well they work.