Exactly. Army option 40 or 18x would be ALOT better choice. Jake Zweig talked with several former Marines. I'm sure he'd change his mind if he watched those interviews.
I'm 29 and was about to go Marines but I have an Associates so going Army, Promotion to E3 instantly, get to pick my MOS, airborne guaranteed in my contract and option 19 so I get to go to Hawaii. Marine Corps only benefits are a uniform and a title. Army is where its at.
@@ReprintYGO That you will get. You'll probably be OK with the physical side of things, but at the age of 31 you don't have much stupid left in you. The mental side is going to be rough. Disengage your brain for a bit, it's about to get stupid, if you can see everything for the true entertainment value that it holds you'll do just fine. Three months is nothing looking back but looking forward it will feel like a lifetime. If you manage to get through the evolution you won't find a better group of people than Marines. Good luck.
@@wes100 Definitely agree. I'm fortunate enough to have trained full time for almost a year now. No sugar, only water, chicken, rice. Running/lifting 4-6 days a week
@@wes100 at least I won't be out of shape and all those things though. Initial Selection has 40%+ pass rate, it's not impossibly low like buds or sfas. Just have to want it more than most
As a prior Drill Instructor at MCRD San Diego, many moons ago circa 2011. Congratulations on accepting the challenge, my daughter is currently at Parris Island. Secondly, stay healthy and use your life knowledge to lead your peers who will be much more younger and more immature. You’ll be older than your Drill Instructors and as old as your Company Commander if not older. But with that comes great responsibility, hold yourself higher and take charge. Have fun and show up humble, it will take you far. Good luck and stay motivated
Hello bodezzy212. I went to MCRD San Diego in 1978. I see they have the Reaper at the end of ITS and believe they say it's12 or 15 miles long. We had Mount Mother ucker and was told it was a 20 mile ruck on our last day. I was wondering if you know if these distances are correct or not. Thank you.
Love to see it, I'm 28 turning 29 next month and I'm planning on enlisting. I started training my ass off and have lost 20 lbs so far but still want to lose atleast 40 more lbs. Seeing guys similar ages as me enlisting is a great motivatior to show I'm down the right path.
We had a 29 year old in our platoon. He kept up no problem and it was hilarious to see the Drill Instructor’s reactions when they found out his age since he was older than all of them. You’ll have an amazing time man I loved every second of it, take advantage of all the opportunities and experiences you’ll have
Good luck dude. I did this long ago at 18. I can't even imagine going thru boot camp at 31. Use your maturity to your advantage. I'll be rooting for you. Good luck again.
Good to hear your story, brother. I’m also joining the Air Force Reserve at 32 and will be going to boot camp early next year. Kudos to you for joining the Marines - I’ve heard their boot camp is much tougher
Marine Captain here. Good hunting dude and just remember...embrace the suck. You're old in Marine Corps years, but age is a number so just own it and always show that you're putting out.
I went to Infantry OSUT with a 32 year old named Tooz who worked almost harder than everyone else. Cornfed mofo got promoted to student platoon Sgt and made rank before leaving basic cuz he pushed the team. Us younger guys looked up to him because if we saw that he could do all the same shit and keep going, then we could too. Motivate your fellow recruits and be the guy that carries the team. Good luck big dawg, hope you come out on top.
I was 31 yrs old when I went to Army basic combat training at Ft Sill, the most challenging part is the mental and emotional because at this age you don't wanna deal with some BS and youngsters who cant (or don't want) to do the basic stuffs like attention to detail, be in uniform, listening, keeping mouth shut. Now I'm reaping the benefits like Post 9/11 GI Bill and VA back mortgage loan - you'll be doing great bro!
Hey good on ya brother, never to late to join. My roommate went to bootcamp when he was 26 and I joined when I was 17, so different perspectives. From what he's told me about his experience prepare for one of the biggest mental challenges of your life. Bootcamp is an experience unlike anything else. Especially as an older dude the "games" the DI's will play might hit you harder than the younger recruits. Prepare to be treated like a child, thats the best way I can say it. Everything will be broken down barney style for you and it will undoubtedly irritate you. Especially when someone doesn't seem to get it. As the oldest guy there people will naturally tend to look up to you at least a little. Be that leader and help the young guys out when they fail. You will most definitely get messed with more because your older. That's because the DI's are going to expect you to lead. And remember this is only 3 months of your life, and dont count down the days, that wrecked with my head. Live every day chow to chow, lights to lights, soon enough you'll be on the parade deck graduating. Good luck to ya brother!
You know I think this is cool. As a Marine Vet I’m just glad he’s NOT going to be one of those “I almost joined the Marines but…” good luck my friend! You got this.
That's inspiring man. I'm 31 and looking to get in. Everyone will call you grandpa, but they will look up to you for wisdom and example. It will be a different kind of challenge working with children who aren't disciplined or mature like us. Stay focused and true
Facts. I joined at 28. Didn't know how old I was until I got around all of those 18 to 22 year old kids. It's a big difference. As long as you are physically fit, you'll be fine.
@Optimus_DP thank you and I agree. I think the biggest advantage I would have is maturity and probably fitness while the biggest issue I will be dealing with is kids with immaturity
I joined at 33. Active duty, still in…I ran Alpha group, and smoked most of them kids..I kept my mouth shut and learned .no nick names..drill sergeants didn’t even realize my age till the end. I promoted in Basic and 3 years later made Sergeant with Air Assault.. it’s all a state a mind. Till this day not many soldiers know my age, it’s irrelevant as long as you perform well.
I graduated in San Diego 36 years ago. H company, platoon 2047. We had a guy who was 33. He was 8 years prior Army. He graduated as our platoon honor man. You’ll be in a better headspace than the 17 and 18 year olds for sure. Good luck man, just keep pushing forward and you’ll look up one day and it’s time to graduate.
Hey man your in the same boat as me, take me with you! I’m working to get scheduled for MEPS at 33 years old. Thought I had bad knees til I worked w a trainer who helped trained them. It’s amazing what our bodies are still capable of at our age. I think us 30+ year olds account for less than 1 percent of their annual enlistments, we a different breed. Good luck man!
@@strumminandwrenchin9162hi I’m 25, I have an engineering degree. Can I get into Air Force and if so what would be a useful path? I’d like to apply my education but maybe fly jets one day
I went to MCRD when I was 29 2 years ago. Was 250+ lbs and wasn't very athletic 6 months before shipping. went down to 185lb at MEPS and then got top fitness award graduating bootcamp under Brave Company where I weighed 165 lbs. Prior to shipping I was exercising 3-5 hours a day. Don't overthink, just do everything as instructed with speed and intensity. Scream at the proper volume...I have no regrets joining
Hey man, Marine Veteran here. Make sure when you get to boot camp that you volunteer for everything you can. For instance, you should strive to either be your platoon Guide, a Squad leader, or at the very least, the platoon scribe. There’s going to be a lot expected from you because you will be one of the older recruits, so show you drill instructors and fellow recruits your leadership abilities as often as you can. Don’t get into any fights while in boot camp, believe me, the out come will suck. And PLEASE know all your general orders like the lyrics to your favorite song. Good luck man!!! Semper Fi
Marine Vet here too. Since he’s 31, he qualifies for dessert at the chow hall. Make sure you tell your Senior Drill Instructor that you’ve reached the age qualification for dessert at the chow hall once you meet him. He’ll hook you up.
I was 22 in recruit training and was second oldest I my platoon. The oldest was 26. You're definitely going to stick out like a sore thumb but that might be a good thing. Those drill instructors will test you and have a different expectation of you in terms of leadership and problem solving than they do the younger recruits. Show them what you got. This really will set a new foundation for your. I retired then went to a sheriff's office academy to become a cop after the Marine Corps. That academy was the toughest school I have EVER attended in our out of the military. I would not have made it through had I not been through my Marine experience. I look forward to seeing your transformation. Rooting for you.
Good for you, 100% and I wish you the very best. Your title caught my eye because I was in a very similar situation 25 years ago looking at joining the Air National Guard at 31, similar family situation, went thru interview, physical l, was offered a commission didn't go thru with it. A job offer came up in another state that I could not refuse and a similar option was not available in the new state. I will always be left with a background regret of not doing it. Don't worry about the age. I was in better shape at 44 than I was at 24. All in the mind. Keep us updated.
Hey man, congrats on heading in to the service. I also enlisted this year in April at 28 with the army and will officially be a 19D on October 3rd now that I've just finished osut. You'll be fine just work hard and be ready to be called uncle or grandpa.
Good luck man! I just graduated from Boot Camp particularly MCRD San Diego on 9/20, and let me tell you it was a journey. My best advice there is to be loud and fast!
@@lifeofupendi nice, I’m shipping out to basic for the army a couple months before I turn 32 as well. By the looks of the training schedule I’ll be graduating around my birthday,
Hey, good luck dude, I I am 26 and I went through Boot Camp, just remember to be patient with these kids come out of high school that’s one thing I will encourage you to do
I joined at 18. My Senior Drill Instructor at Paris Island was 24. Kill hat was 23. It's a young mans branch but it'll be the most mature, savage, and professional young men you've ever seen. Just be loud, fast, and keep your mind on the end goal. It'll be the longest 3 months of your life but worth every second once you get that EGA. Good luck to you old timer!
I joined the Marine Corps when I was 27 (turned 28 in recruit training) and it has been the best decision Ive ever made. I re enlisted last summer and now going to do recruiting back home in New York. People thought I was crazy that I chose infantry as an MOS but I wanted to challenge myself and experience being a grunt. The younger recruits may make jokes about your age but they will respect you for your knowledge, life experiences and wisdom. I also could out PT 90% my platoon and beat up on other recruits when ever we body sparred or used pugil sticks so that certainly earned me their respect. My best advice that I can give you is to be humble, show respect to Marines who out rank you, seek knowledge to your "senior" Marines, stay in shape, and do as many courses as possible which will help you advance in this gun club or help set you up in the civilian world. Good luck and Semper Fi.
Seeing the light in the eyes of new recruits always makes me smile. Looking back I had those same eyes. Just sit back and enjoy the ride, don’t let the darkness overcome you.
Dude, I hope your homelife is as solid as your resolve will need to be. Won't be time to address issues because shit is going sideways back home. Make sure your relationship, family and finances are solid before you embark on this endeavor. I'm not a Marine, but I get the feeling you'll be sorry if you don't
One of the best decision I made joining the U.S.Navy back in 1989 @ NTC San Diego.I was 17 when I came to the U.S. from the Philippines I did not Like it here that First year so I enlisted.Thank you for your service Brother and God Bless you!🇺🇸
i joined at 26, My recruiters didn't send anyone unless they could pass the IST. I also had a person that was 29 in my platoon. You'll be good King. Marine Corps definitely made me a better person, im also a reservist. Best advice is getting max planks, planks is the easiest 100 you can get. You'll def get first class going in. i went in during the switch between crunches to planks, so i had to train for both. Haha.
Hey bro, I went in at 18. People will come to you with questions that you won't know jack anything about. Educate yourself on how the banks work, so you can be they who can say you messed up. Understand that you will comfort alot of younger men in heartbreak. Strive to be the best because they will look up to you. You need to be that "dad" that isn't the drill instructors. Be kind and understanding, but hold yourself higher. You put yourself in the position to be a higher person. You'll also meet kids who won't listen and youll catch that flak. Push on and keep on pushing
I joined at 21, was already out by the time I was 31. You'll be alright, boot camp is 90% mental and 10% physical, just gotta do what you're told and do it loud and fast, and always give it everything you can muster. DIs are gonna have fun messing with the old guy, they're gonna test you a bit lol. Focus on those pullups, DIs love a recruit who can kill it with pullups
Stay absolutely humble and understand you’re still the bottom of the pack. I’m 33 and did 8 years in the Marine Corps infantry. You will be given a lot of shit for your pt but if I can go back to the start , I would’ve worked harder. There is a reward at the end of your enlistment and the benefits as a veteran make it absolutely worth it. I went into Law enforcement at 27 and it was a joke compared to the Marine Corps. As a vet, after being all around the world, the Marine Corps taught me I absolutely can do anything if I work for it. The title Marine holds a lot of weight
Good luck man. I was in at 23 had a 29 year old in my platoon. He did well. I had a great career. I was the old man in my unit and my Marines let me know. Keep your head up. Boot camp will be hard for you having to deal with 18 yo who still need their parents to wipe their ass. Never too late
I went back to the Marines after a 5 year break. 2000-2004, 2009- 2013. I went back in as a 28 year old CPL I still smoked then junior Marines without pushing it. You will be sought after for your experience by leadership. Remember, dont let the rank get to you. Younger staff and officers that will piss you off.
Good luck man! I turned 27 when I was at MCRD and was already a few years married. The hardest part (outside of being away from family) throughout boot camp, MCT, and the school house was getting punished for stuff the younger guys did. Even weirder was getting to my unit and having marines wayyy younger then me be my NCO’s. But man it’s worth it. It’s not always going to feel that way, but it is. Play the game, embrace the suck, and come home to your fiancé and kids as a Marine!
Dude, no worries, itll be fine. Remember its all a means to an end. You're going to be a target but keep focused and keep moving forward. Keep in mind the maturity level you have compared to the 18 year old mindset. Good luck Brother! WB USMC Ret.
Boot camp is all mental. Never sweat the physical part, you’ll make it. Had a few studs in my platoon quit because they couldn’t handle the mental aspect. Be fast, be loud, and know even if you’re right you are in fact wrong, there are no right answers when a drill instructor is around. Enjoy your 13 weeks!
Good shit bro. I joined the Marine Corps when I was 21 back in 1993. I served 8 years and planned on staying in, but I transitioned into a great career in law enforcement and eventually retired. The best advice I can give you is to stay fit and do as many schools as you can to remain competitive for future promotions.
Hey man, 31 year old Army National Guard Captain here, excited for you dude! Go out, crush your physical events, keep a level head, and be a reliable man for your platoon mates!
You made the right decision. Just understand that so many have gone before you and been successful. DON’T BE INTIMIDATED! The standards are high but not impossible. They’re training you to become a basically trained Marine not a super Ninja. Everything is more than doable and nothing is impossible. Prepare yourself now. You mentioned physical training and that’s important but I believe what’s more important is studying your, what we call in the Marine Corps, KNOWLEDGE. General Orders, Code of conduct, MC history, rank structure of all the branches, enlisted and officer, close order drill and anything else your recruiter tells you will be taught. You are 31 years old and wiser and more mature than your fellow recruits. There is NO reason that you shouldn’t be put in a leadership position as platoon guide or squad leader. Don’t be afraid and seek leadership positions. Don’t be a dck by bossing the younger kids around or a bully. Instead lead them by example. Know the subject matter, keep your gear and uniform squared away. Gentle and fair but FIRM when necessary. Memorize the 14 leadership traits and then apply them and you, young man will be successful. Semper Fi US Marine who served from 1986-1990 as an 0811 field artillery cannoneer. Ooh Rah Blood makes the grass grow Marines make the blood flow kill kill kill!!! I’m going to teach you the Marine Corps prayer: Yay though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, For I am the biggest, baddest, meanest Mutha in the valley!Good night Chesty where ever you are!
I'm 47 and an Army veteran. I'm in the process of going back in after an eleven year break in service. ... Congrats to you, my man. Good luck in boot camp!
Oh...we started with 64 pvts and ended with 28. I think they make as good of a Marine today as they ever did. You're on the right track. Crush it. I look forward to calling you MARINE!
Good for you…I was a CWO2 by the time I was your age. I went to Recruit Training at 3rd Bn at PISC. I was in from 1976 - 2005 and have been a Civil Servant supporting Marines since. I planned on stay 4 years and now I am in year 48. I retired a CWO5 Motor Transport Maintenance Officer. Semper Fi Brother
I joined the airforce at 17, did 8 years, been out for 6 years and now I'm 31. I couldn't imagine going through basic as a full grown adult. I feel like being young dumb and full of cm lets you roll with the punches easier lol. Good luck to you!
@@spqr49 I went threw basic as a 18 year old got hurt and discharged, never went back, just reenlisted going back now at 31, I feel like as an older dude It won’t be as bad in terms of being home sick, and understanding things and the reason for.
You've got the right atittude for sure brother, good luck man. The younger guys are going to look to you for leadership, the shit that you'll hear and see can only be described as childish.
I’m 19 years old, it’s freaking hard to get a job without experience. Still looking but at the same time thinking about joining the army. Then this video popped up, maybe I should join.
Full send bro. If you ain’t doing college, full send. Take it from me man. You don’t wanna be job hopping around, working like a slave in today’s world/ economy. Go make some real world experiences most people never get, you’ll get lifetime vet benefits, get to travel probably , and most importantly serve and protect our country. God speed bro.
I joined the army in spring 2023 at 32 it’s so easy dude. If the marines is anything like the army it’s going to be chill. Only people I see complain about the day to day are young kids fresh out of highschool that never lived a real life. It’s government work tons of benefits and days off. I do get called old everyday even though I’m faster and stronger at PT than 95% of my company. Kids are ruthless. You got this shit man but good luck.
Fantastic!!!! So very proud of you!!!! Boot Camp is a mind game don’t let them break you!!!!! Would love to see a follow up video of you after completing boot camp!!!! I subscribed!!!🇱🇷🇱🇷
Endurance. Train for 6 miles as often as you can. Every other day. 3 mile between. Light jog on Sunday. All the other stuff is secondary. Yeah, curls and push ups and crunches often. You know the quota. Hit the run hard. You won't regret it.
If you're just doing it for the look and title thats all you're going to get. I guarantee you that whatever job you're trying to do you will not be really doing. The Marine Corps doesn't goto work unless its wartime thats it. Right now everyone is just playing games and doing stupid things because its peacetime. What job are you even trying to do?
Congrats, i was 27 in bootcamp, and even then everyone called me old every single day. Had the highest *combined* PFT/CFT score in the shop though so that really counted for something. Have fun man and use your leadership skills when called upon!! You will develop leadership like crazy if you take the challenge
i was just in cali last year. move fast and do what they say. i went in at 28 (born in 1994) so they will look for you to know more but honestly wont fuck with you like they do the younger kids. you'll be fine just move fast and do everything they say. i thought i would be the oldest too then come to find out i ran into a 31 year old in medical that had just gotten back from camp pendleton. just don't get hurt, pass your IST during receiving week (which will be on a friday morning). you have life experience advantage over most so use that and remember to always help everyone around you.
Don’t worry, you’ll make it through. It sounds long but you’ll be SO BUSY that the weeks will fly by. Tip: if you are prone to chafing, then do what you can to prevent it. I got chafing down to my knees during the crucible and it was a nightmare.
The Physical part was tough but the mental will be just as tough. Nothing will ever prepare you for that but just know, they will break you down for a reason and slowly they will build you back up.
Do everything with speed, volume, and intensity. Look out for the recruit on your left and right. Be humble and follow your leadership so that your platoon can work as a team.
Congrats man, and don't take anything personal. There will be a lot of young men bossing you around. Take your role seriously and just do what you're supposed to do. It should be mentally easier for you as you seem well adjusted and you are older. Again, do NOT take it personal being called a grandpa, loser, old man--after bootcamp, you're apart of the club man.
I went in May. You will do amazing!! My advice is stay in the moment and really do try to have a good time. Put on that character and do what you are told and you will make it out just fine.
I still remember the D.I. That gave is the good ol introduction too the marine corps “You have now taken the first steps, in becoming members of the worlds greatest fighting force , The United States Marine Corps.!” Soon after you’ll begin to receive the articles of the UCMJ on that red board .
31 year old me should have join the Marine Corps but ended up in the Army instead. About to hit up my 4th year of my career. Keep going and you can do it brother. 💪
My son just graduated from MCRD San Diego last Friday. He lost 30 pounds during boot camp. Hardly recognized him. He is a very different person now. Left as a boy and came home a man.
It's an advantage. In this day and age, most people act much younger than their age, so DIs are sick of dealing with immature children. Whining is common and really pisses them off. Your biggest problem is going to be the squad leaders. They're your fellow recruits put in positions of power they often don't deserve. In the first few days, if a DI says "Give me my four fiercest recruits!" JUMP forward and scream "AYE SIR" as loud as humanly possible. Chances are they're seeing who's brave enough to be squad leader. Squad leaders eat last, and finish eating first, so it's harder, but it's SO worth it, since you won't have some 18 year old bossing you around and making your life hell because he's sick of being bossed around himself and wants to vent it out on someone else. If you can get scribe as a position, it's the best. You as scribe decide who get's firewatch, so despite what anyone else says, it's the most powerful position. No other recruit will even call you a mean name if you're scribe for fear of getting firewatch. If they ask "Who can spell? Who has good handwriting?" it's them likely vetting for scribe. if you went to college, make sure they know early on. They'll haze you for it for a bit, but don't react and they'll end up giving you scribe. The most important thing is to show them you don't have an ego within the first week. That way they see you as a tool to keep the recruits in line, not an obstacle. Good luck, future Marine.
I joined the Army infantry at 26, best decision. I’m now 29, I made E5 in 19 months. Since you’re older you understand the importance of setting yourself aside from your peers. Get those early promotions to better support your family. (I just watched the part where you said you’re joining the reserves… gross)
U just signed up for a lot of responsibility. Know things are you going to be expected of you because age. Don't get down on yourself and relate and grow with your fellow recruits. Don't be big headed God be with you
Good luck! Hopefully, I can call you brother in 13 weeks. You're doing it at 31. As a Marine (former), I can tell you the Marine Corps is nothing to play with. God bless.
It is indeed something completely different. I think the hardest part is just the isolation. You know, no cell phone, no TV, and no laptop. It does serve a purpose in literally "beating the homesickness out of you". Everything else is easy in comparison.
Spoiler alert: they're going to call you grandpa.
I called them Unc
Grandpa? More like great grandpa
i always call the old guys with kids pops
Nah, 23 year olds get called grandpa. This man is going to be called “the walking dead”
They gonna be calling him the grand old man of whatever company he’s in. Homeboy’s only people his age are the SNCOs and O3+
31 years old and he picked the corps… good luck big dog
I wanted a challenge.
Exactly. Army option 40 or 18x would be ALOT better choice. Jake Zweig talked with several former Marines. I'm sure he'd change his mind if he watched those interviews.
I'm 29 and was about to go Marines but I have an Associates so going Army, Promotion to E3 instantly, get to pick my MOS, airborne guaranteed in my contract and option 19 so I get to go to Hawaii. Marine Corps only benefits are a uniform and a title. Army is where its at.
@@ReprintYGO That you will get. You'll probably be OK with the physical side of things, but at the age of 31 you don't have much stupid left in you. The mental side is going to be rough. Disengage your brain for a bit, it's about to get stupid, if you can see everything for the true entertainment value that it holds you'll do just fine. Three months is nothing looking back but looking forward it will feel like a lifetime.
If you manage to get through the evolution you won't find a better group of people than Marines. Good luck.
@@Lo-wo2glyou’re going to Alaska bro. There is no airborne in Hawaii. Lol
dudes gonna be older then his entire chain of command at boot good luck grandpa
On the positive note he will be more mentally matured and will be able to handle them a lot better. Hope he does well!
@@johnappleseed9290scientifically he will be a better soldier.
@@kool4209marine not solider
@@pickmynameforme9919 that’s a soldier
@@kool4209 wrong
I joined the Army infantry at 29 turned 30 in basic. I crushed it. Never too late! Go be a leader!
Ya, but it was the Army
@@randygravel2057 I’m not tracking wym
@@richardexton816he’s saying Marines are harder.
@@JpRiascos I mean yea in general that’s facts. Cannot disagree.
The last part is the most important part
33 leaving for army in 19 days. Going to Ranger selection. Lets use our age and wisdom to our advantage
Good luck man, that's an awesome path.
Ranger selection is brutally hard bro
@@wes100 Definitely agree. I'm fortunate enough to have trained full time for almost a year now. No sugar, only water, chicken, rice. Running/lifting 4-6 days a week
@@theone1480 all that won’t matter when you are cold, tired, hungry, sore and in pain
@@wes100 at least I won't be out of shape and all those things though. Initial Selection has 40%+ pass rate, it's not impossibly low like buds or sfas. Just have to want it more than most
As a prior Drill Instructor at MCRD San Diego, many moons ago circa 2011. Congratulations on accepting the challenge, my daughter is currently at Parris Island. Secondly, stay healthy and use your life knowledge to lead your peers who will be much more younger and more immature. You’ll be older than your Drill Instructors and as old as your Company Commander if not older. But with that comes great responsibility, hold yourself higher and take charge. Have fun and show up humble, it will take you far. Good luck and stay motivated
Hello bodezzy212. I went to MCRD San Diego in 1978. I see they have the Reaper at the end of ITS and believe they say it's12 or 15 miles long. We had Mount Mother ucker and was told it was a 20 mile ruck on our last day. I was wondering if you know if these distances are correct or not. Thank you.
Love to see it, I'm 28 turning 29 next month and I'm planning on enlisting. I started training my ass off and have lost 20 lbs so far but still want to lose atleast 40 more lbs. Seeing guys similar ages as me enlisting is a great motivatior to show I'm down the right path.
America thanks you for your service.
You from LA, cuz if you are we could work out man
@@lucifero__ I live on the eastcoast, but I appreciate the offer!
Do not join the Marines. What job are you trying to do?
You got this brother!
We had a 29 year old in our platoon. He kept up no problem and it was hilarious to see the Drill Instructor’s reactions when they found out his age since he was older than all of them. You’ll have an amazing time man I loved every second of it, take advantage of all the opportunities and experiences you’ll have
Good luck dude. I did this long ago at 18. I can't even imagine going thru boot camp at 31. Use your maturity to your advantage. I'll be rooting for you. Good luck again.
Good to hear your story, brother. I’m also joining the Air Force Reserve at 32 and will be going to boot camp early next year. Kudos to you for joining the Marines - I’ve heard their boot camp is much tougher
We had a 30yr old in my platoon when I was at PI. We called him the Grand old man. Do it bro! Good luck.
Stay hydrated, be loud and be fast and you should be fine. They'll teach you the rest.
So true. Excellent advice
Marine Captain here. Good hunting dude and just remember...embrace the suck. You're old in Marine Corps years, but age is a number so just own it and always show that you're putting out.
I went to Infantry OSUT with a 32 year old named Tooz who worked almost harder than everyone else. Cornfed mofo got promoted to student platoon Sgt and made rank before leaving basic cuz he pushed the team. Us younger guys looked up to him because if we saw that he could do all the same shit and keep going, then we could too. Motivate your fellow recruits and be the guy that carries the team. Good luck big dawg, hope you come out on top.
I was 31 yrs old when I went to Army basic combat training at Ft Sill, the most challenging part is the mental and emotional because at this age you don't wanna deal with some BS and youngsters who cant (or don't want) to do the basic stuffs like attention to detail, be in uniform, listening, keeping mouth shut.
Now I'm reaping the benefits like Post 9/11 GI Bill and VA back mortgage loan - you'll be doing great bro!
Hey good on ya brother, never to late to join. My roommate went to bootcamp when he was 26 and I joined when I was 17, so different perspectives. From what he's told me about his experience prepare for one of the biggest mental challenges of your life. Bootcamp is an experience unlike anything else. Especially as an older dude the "games" the DI's will play might hit you harder than the younger recruits. Prepare to be treated like a child, thats the best way I can say it. Everything will be broken down barney style for you and it will undoubtedly irritate you. Especially when someone doesn't seem to get it. As the oldest guy there people will naturally tend to look up to you at least a little. Be that leader and help the young guys out when they fail. You will most definitely get messed with more because your older. That's because the DI's are going to expect you to lead. And remember this is only 3 months of your life, and dont count down the days, that wrecked with my head. Live every day chow to chow, lights to lights, soon enough you'll be on the parade deck graduating. Good luck to ya brother!
You know I think this is cool. As a Marine Vet I’m just glad he’s NOT going to be one of those “I almost joined the Marines but…” good luck my friend! You got this.
That's inspiring man. I'm 31 and looking to get in. Everyone will call you grandpa, but they will look up to you for wisdom and example. It will be a different kind of challenge working with children who aren't disciplined or mature like us. Stay focused and true
Facts. I joined at 28. Didn't know how old I was until I got around all of those 18 to 22 year old kids. It's a big difference. As long as you are physically fit, you'll be fine.
@Optimus_DP thank you and I agree. I think the biggest advantage I would have is maturity and probably fitness while the biggest issue I will be dealing with is kids with immaturity
I joined at 33. Active duty, still in…I ran Alpha group, and smoked most of them kids..I kept my mouth shut and learned .no nick names..drill sergeants didn’t even realize my age till the end. I promoted in Basic and 3 years later made Sergeant with Air Assault.. it’s all a state a mind. Till this day not many soldiers know my age, it’s irrelevant as long as you perform well.
I graduated in San Diego 36 years ago. H company, platoon 2047. We had a guy who was 33. He was 8 years prior Army. He graduated as our platoon honor man. You’ll be in a better headspace than the 17 and 18 year olds for sure. Good luck man, just keep pushing forward and you’ll look up one day and it’s time to graduate.
Hey man your in the same boat as me, take me with you! I’m working to get scheduled for MEPS at 33 years old. Thought I had bad knees til I worked w a trainer who helped trained them. It’s amazing what our bodies are still capable of at our age. I think us 30+ year olds account for less than 1 percent of their annual enlistments, we a different breed. Good luck man!
I would say, as a US Air Force servicemember, we have the most over 30 plus y/o NPS applicants.
@@strumminandwrenchin9162hi I’m 25, I have an engineering degree. Can I get into Air Force and if so what would be a useful path? I’d like to apply my education but maybe fly jets one day
I went to MCRD when I was 29 2 years ago. Was 250+ lbs and wasn't very athletic 6 months before shipping. went down to 185lb at MEPS and then got top fitness award graduating bootcamp under Brave Company where I weighed 165 lbs. Prior to shipping I was exercising 3-5 hours a day. Don't overthink, just do everything as instructed with speed and intensity. Scream at the proper volume...I have no regrets joining
Hey man, Marine Veteran here. Make sure when you get to boot camp that you volunteer for everything you can. For instance, you should strive to either be your platoon Guide, a Squad leader, or at the very least, the platoon scribe. There’s going to be a lot expected from you because you will be one of the older recruits, so show you drill instructors and fellow recruits your leadership abilities as often as you can. Don’t get into any fights while in boot camp, believe me, the out come will suck. And PLEASE know all your general orders like the lyrics to your favorite song.
Good luck man!!! Semper Fi
@erics362 😂 it’s easy shit. And getting promoted to E2 or even E3 while in boot camp is awesome, I mean unless you don’t like getting paid more money.
@erics362 🥱 well Devil Dog, if the goal was to have a easy “smooth” boot camp than Marine Corps ain’t the branch to be in, regardless of age.
Marine Vet here too. Since he’s 31, he qualifies for dessert at the chow hall. Make sure you tell your Senior Drill Instructor that you’ve reached the age qualification for dessert at the chow hall once you meet him. He’ll hook you up.
@@cptcurk192wtf 😂. You don’t have enough time to eat dessert at boot camp 😂
@@kangaroobotur full of 💩🥷
Fuck yeah brother, I'm 27 going for green berets , I feel you. Keep training
Average age of green berets is mid 30s. Difference is they have infantry experience.
@@zohloremost green berets are off the street 18 x rays my guy.
@@TheHipsterGamer are you a green beret?
@@zohlore don’t have to be. An appeal to authority is not the only form of logic.
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@@zohlore Don’t have to be to state something factual. More than half of all green berets are in fact 18X
I was 22 in recruit training and was second oldest I my platoon. The oldest was 26. You're definitely going to stick out like a sore thumb but that might be a good thing. Those drill instructors will test you and have a different expectation of you in terms of leadership and problem solving than they do the younger recruits. Show them what you got. This really will set a new foundation for your. I retired then went to a sheriff's office academy to become a cop after the Marine Corps. That academy was the toughest school I have EVER attended in our out of the military. I would not have made it through had I not been through my Marine experience. I look forward to seeing your transformation. Rooting for you.
Good for you, 100% and I wish you the very best. Your title caught my eye because I was in a very similar situation 25 years ago looking at joining the Air National Guard at 31, similar family situation, went thru interview, physical l, was offered a commission didn't go thru with it. A job offer came up in another state that I could not refuse and a similar option was not available in the new state. I will always be left with a background regret of not doing it. Don't worry about the age. I was in better shape at 44 than I was at 24. All in the mind. Keep us updated.
Hey man, congrats on heading in to the service. I also enlisted this year in April at 28 with the army and will officially be a 19D on October 3rd now that I've just finished osut. You'll be fine just work hard and be ready to be called uncle or grandpa.
CONGRATS BRO … im shipping out for 19D on october 29th . Im 26 and i made a couple friends at meps and they were already calling me oldhead LMAOOO
@jawnnamedjon7315 well enjoy your time man it's gonna be 22 weeks of work but it's definitely worth it.
Good luck man! I just graduated from Boot Camp particularly MCRD San Diego on 9/20, and let me tell you it was a journey. My best advice there is to be loud and fast!
Whatever you do, don't quit.
This will be me shipping out to Navy bootcamp a few months before turning 32, glad I won't be the only granddad in basic.
@@lifeofupendi nice, I’m shipping out to basic for the army a couple months before I turn 32 as well. By the looks of the training schedule I’ll be graduating around my birthday,
Respect to both of you enlisting even at your 30s
You can do it
I was 25 coming fresh out of the Navy and I still outdid all the punks fresh out of high school
Prepare yourself now
Hey, good luck dude, I I am 26 and I went through Boot Camp, just remember to be patient with these kids come out of high school that’s one thing I will encourage you to do
I joined the Navy in my late twenties and I'm thankful I went for it. I completely relate to your mindset. Let's go!
Good for you joining, don't let others put you down, what an honor.
Honor is a fool's prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Welcome to the brotherhood. I’m proud of you. Good luck, Semper Fi
I joined at 18. My Senior Drill Instructor at Paris Island was 24. Kill hat was 23. It's a young mans branch but it'll be the most mature, savage, and professional young men you've ever seen. Just be loud, fast, and keep your mind on the end goal. It'll be the longest 3 months of your life but worth every second once you get that EGA. Good luck to you old timer!
You got it dude, I joined the Army at 30, been in 7 years now.
Bro I’m 22 and thinking about the army is it a good idea to
You got this man. Earn that EGA and be the best Marine you can… you’ll be proud of your service later down the road. Good luck in bootcamp 🫡
Oh man, you're a brave one. Good luck, you're going to love it! Semper Fidelis. I was an 0811 with 2/10 Fox Battery 2012-2020
I joined the Marine Corps when I was 27 (turned 28 in recruit training) and it has been the best decision Ive ever made. I re enlisted last summer and now going to do recruiting back home in New York. People thought I was crazy that I chose infantry as an MOS but I wanted to challenge myself and experience being a grunt. The younger recruits may make jokes about your age but they will respect you for your knowledge, life experiences and wisdom. I also could out PT 90% my platoon and beat up on other recruits when ever we body sparred or used pugil sticks so that certainly earned me their respect. My best advice that I can give you is to be humble, show respect to Marines who out rank you, seek knowledge to your "senior" Marines, stay in shape, and do as many courses as possible which will help you advance in this gun club or help set you up in the civilian world. Good luck and Semper Fi.
Seeing the light in the eyes of new recruits always makes me smile. Looking back I had those same eyes. Just sit back and enjoy the ride, don’t let the darkness overcome you.
Dude, I hope your homelife is as solid as your resolve will need to be. Won't be time to address issues because shit is going sideways back home. Make sure your relationship, family and finances are solid before you embark on this endeavor.
I'm not a Marine, but I get the feeling you'll be sorry if you don't
One of the best decision I made joining the U.S.Navy back in 1989 @ NTC San Diego.I was 17 when I came to the U.S. from the Philippines I did not Like it here that First year so I enlisted.Thank you for your service Brother and God Bless you!🇺🇸
Congratulations brother. Keep it up!
i joined at 26, My recruiters didn't send anyone unless they could pass the IST. I also had a person that was 29 in my platoon.
You'll be good King.
Marine Corps definitely made me a better person, im also a reservist.
Best advice is getting max planks, planks is the easiest 100 you can get. You'll def get first class going in. i went in during the switch between crunches to planks, so i had to train for both. Haha.
Bro they do planks now instead? Damn… I been out too long.
I did OCS at 31. It’s totally workable. Get some! You’ll do great. And you’ll be older than most of the drill instructors.
Hey bro, I went in at 18. People will come to you with questions that you won't know jack anything about. Educate yourself on how the banks work, so you can be they who can say you messed up. Understand that you will comfort alot of younger men in heartbreak. Strive to be the best because they will look up to you. You need to be that "dad" that isn't the drill instructors. Be kind and understanding, but hold yourself higher. You put yourself in the position to be a higher person. You'll also meet kids who won't listen and youll catch that flak. Push on and keep on pushing
I joined at 21, was already out by the time I was 31. You'll be alright, boot camp is 90% mental and 10% physical, just gotta do what you're told and do it loud and fast, and always give it everything you can muster. DIs are gonna have fun messing with the old guy, they're gonna test you a bit lol. Focus on those pullups, DIs love a recruit who can kill it with pullups
Stay absolutely humble and understand you’re still the bottom of the pack. I’m 33 and did 8 years in the Marine Corps infantry. You will be given a lot of shit for your pt but if I can go back to the start , I would’ve worked harder. There is a reward at the end of your enlistment and the benefits as a veteran make it absolutely worth it. I went into Law enforcement at 27 and it was a joke compared to the Marine Corps. As a vet, after being all around the world, the Marine Corps taught me I absolutely can do anything if I work for it. The title Marine holds a lot of weight
Good luck man. I was in at 23 had a 29 year old in my platoon. He did well. I had a great career. I was the old man in my unit and my Marines let me know. Keep your head up. Boot camp will be hard for you having to deal with 18 yo who still need their parents to wipe their ass. Never too late
go for it dawg, thats having balls
I went back to the Marines after a 5 year break. 2000-2004, 2009- 2013. I went back in as a 28 year old CPL I still smoked then junior Marines without pushing it. You will be sought after for your experience by leadership. Remember, dont let the rank get to you. Younger staff and officers that will piss you off.
Good luck man! I turned 27 when I was at MCRD and was already a few years married. The hardest part (outside of being away from family) throughout boot camp, MCT, and the school house was getting punished for stuff the younger guys did. Even weirder was getting to my unit and having marines wayyy younger then me be my NCO’s.
But man it’s worth it. It’s not always going to feel that way, but it is. Play the game, embrace the suck, and come home to your fiancé and kids as a Marine!
Dude, no worries, itll be fine.
Remember its all a means to an end.
You're going to be a target but keep focused and keep moving forward.
Keep in mind the maturity level you have compared to the 18 year old mindset.
Good luck Brother!
WB USMC Ret.
You got this man, remember why you started and keep that in mind when it gets tough. Im 31 yrs old and in the process of joining the Air Force.
go navy cmon
@@leosam6819 the navy recruiter actually tried getting me in but i dont want to be on a boat lol
@@moarkish6739 Nah cmon its not guaranteed that you will be stationed on a ship but even if its chill
Boot camp is all mental. Never sweat the physical part, you’ll make it. Had a few studs in my platoon quit because they couldn’t handle the mental aspect. Be fast, be loud, and know even if you’re right you are in fact wrong, there are no right answers when a drill instructor is around. Enjoy your 13 weeks!
My son joined 2018 as a 24 year old, and he was the "elder". 31 now and still in the reserves. Good luck recruit.
He’s a poolee, he’ll be a recruit once he steps off the bus into MCRD
Good shit bro. I joined the Marine Corps when I was 21 back in 1993. I served 8 years and planned on staying in, but I transitioned into a great career in law enforcement and eventually retired. The best advice I can give you is to stay fit and do as many schools as you can to remain competitive for future promotions.
Hey man, 31 year old Army National Guard Captain here, excited for you dude! Go out, crush your physical events, keep a level head, and be a reliable man for your platoon mates!
❤ I'm so hyped for you can't wait for the graduation video
You made the right decision. Just understand that so many have gone before you and been successful. DON’T BE INTIMIDATED! The standards are high but not impossible. They’re training you to become a basically trained Marine not a super Ninja. Everything is more than doable and nothing is impossible. Prepare yourself now. You mentioned physical training and that’s important but I believe what’s more important is studying your, what we call in the Marine Corps, KNOWLEDGE. General Orders, Code of conduct, MC history, rank structure of all the branches, enlisted and officer, close order drill and anything else your recruiter tells you will be taught. You are 31 years old and wiser and more mature than your fellow recruits. There is NO reason that you shouldn’t be put in a leadership position as platoon guide or squad leader. Don’t be afraid and seek leadership positions. Don’t be a dck by bossing the younger kids around or a bully. Instead lead them by example. Know the subject matter, keep your gear and uniform squared away. Gentle and fair but FIRM when necessary. Memorize the 14 leadership traits and then apply them and you, young man will be successful. Semper Fi
US Marine who served from 1986-1990 as an 0811 field artillery cannoneer. Ooh Rah
Blood makes the grass grow Marines make the blood flow kill kill kill!!!
I’m going to teach you the Marine Corps prayer:
Yay though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, For I am the biggest, baddest, meanest Mutha in the valley!Good night Chesty where ever you are!
You’ll be fine - just scream and push through (it’s all mental)
Forget your run times. Train your mind. That is what will be tested most for entry into my Marine Corps. Good luck.
Semper Fidelis.
I'm 47 and an Army veteran. I'm in the process of going back in after an eleven year break in service. ... Congrats to you, my man. Good luck in boot camp!
Please don’t go active duty :)
Run will get fixed by the time you get over there. You’ll definitely drop to a 22:40 or 23:00. Keep head up, do things your told. Learn knowledge.
Oh...we started with 64 pvts and ended with 28. I think they make as good of a Marine today as they ever did. You're on the right track. Crush it. I look forward to calling you MARINE!
MARINE
Dang man, I’m 24, a Sgt, and a recruiter. Good luck man, you got this
@simeon_kurosky I watch your videos man, they have helped me prepare. Thank you!
Good for you…I was a CWO2 by the time I was your age. I went to Recruit Training at 3rd Bn at PISC. I was in from 1976 - 2005 and have been a Civil Servant supporting Marines since. I planned on stay 4 years and now I am in year 48. I retired a CWO5 Motor Transport Maintenance Officer. Semper Fi Brother
I joined the airforce at 17, did 8 years, been out for 6 years and now I'm 31. I couldn't imagine going through basic as a full grown adult. I feel like being young dumb and full of cm lets you roll with the punches easier lol. Good luck to you!
@@spqr49 I went threw basic as a 18 year old got hurt and discharged, never went back, just reenlisted going back now at 31, I feel like as an older dude It won’t be as bad in terms of being home sick, and understanding things and the reason for.
You've got the right atittude for sure brother, good luck man. The younger guys are going to look to you for leadership, the shit that you'll hear and see can only be described as childish.
I’m 19 years old, it’s freaking hard to get a job without experience. Still looking but at the same time thinking about joining the army.
Then this video popped up, maybe I should join.
Look at the coast guard. May find more helpful jobs there.
Full send bro. If you ain’t doing college, full send. Take it from me man. You don’t wanna be job hopping around, working like a slave in today’s world/ economy. Go make some real world experiences most people never get, you’ll get lifetime vet benefits, get to travel probably , and most importantly serve and protect our country. God speed bro.
Let’s do it man I’m gonna be 22 on the 15!
I joined the army in spring 2023 at 32 it’s so easy dude. If the marines is anything like the army it’s going to be chill. Only people I see complain about the day to day are young kids fresh out of highschool that never lived a real life. It’s government work tons of benefits and days off. I do get called old everyday even though I’m faster and stronger at PT than 95% of my company. Kids are ruthless. You got this shit man but good luck.
Fantastic!!!! So very proud of you!!!! Boot Camp is a mind game don’t let them break you!!!!! Would love to see a follow up video of you after completing boot camp!!!! I subscribed!!!🇱🇷🇱🇷
Good luck and wish you the best. Be positive and make your family proud.
Endurance. Train for 6 miles as often as you can. Every other day. 3 mile between. Light jog on Sunday. All the other stuff is secondary. Yeah, curls and push ups and crunches often. You know the quota. Hit the run hard. You won't regret it.
Enlisted in the Army at 33. God speed brother. Congrats.
Good luck bro I’m 25 working on going in
Same same
Army, current marine here. DO ARMY. The marine corps has nothing special except great marketing appeal.
@@zohlore but their uniforms are so nice
If you're just doing it for the look and title thats all you're going to get.
I guarantee you that whatever job you're trying to do you will not be really doing. The Marine Corps doesn't goto work unless its wartime thats it. Right now everyone is just playing games and doing stupid things because its peacetime.
What job are you even trying to do?
@@zohlore i wanted to be infantry. Idk how likely its that i’d get that mos, if anything they’d probably make me a cook 🤣
Congrats, i was 27 in bootcamp, and even then everyone called me old every single day. Had the highest *combined* PFT/CFT score in the shop though so that really counted for something.
Have fun man and use your leadership skills when called upon!! You will develop leadership like crazy if you take the challenge
i was just in cali last year.
move fast and do what they say.
i went in at 28 (born in 1994) so they will look for you to know more but honestly wont fuck with you like they do the younger kids.
you'll be fine just move fast and do everything they say. i thought i would be the oldest too then come to find out i ran into a 31 year old in medical that had just gotten back from camp pendleton.
just don't get hurt, pass your IST during receiving week (which will be on a friday morning).
you have life experience advantage over most so use that and remember to always help everyone around you.
Don’t worry, you’ll make it through. It sounds long but you’ll be SO BUSY that the weeks will fly by.
Tip: if you are prone to chafing, then do what you can to prevent it. I got chafing down to my knees during the crucible and it was a nightmare.
The Physical part was tough but the mental will be just as tough. Nothing will ever prepare you for that but just know, they will break you down for a reason and slowly they will build you back up.
Do everything with speed, volume, and intensity. Look out for the recruit on your left and right. Be humble and follow your leadership so that your platoon can work as a team.
Congrats man, and don't take anything personal. There will be a lot of young men bossing you around. Take your role seriously and just do what you're supposed to do. It should be mentally easier for you as you seem well adjusted and you are older. Again, do NOT take it personal being called a grandpa, loser, old man--after bootcamp, you're apart of the club man.
I went in May. You will do amazing!! My advice is stay in the moment and really do try to have a good time. Put on that character and do what you are told and you will make it out just fine.
I still remember the D.I. That gave is the good ol introduction too the marine corps “You have now taken the first steps, in becoming members of the worlds greatest fighting force , The United States Marine Corps.!” Soon after you’ll begin to receive the articles of the UCMJ on that red board .
I went back to MCRD-SD for a visit while you were there. Good luck and don't fear the reaper.
31 year old me should have join the Marine Corps but ended up in the Army instead. About to hit up my 4th year of my career. Keep going and you can do it brother. 💪
Real life Archibald Henderson haha. Good on you man, nothing but respect. You'll do great at bootcamp and in the Corps.
My son just graduated from MCRD San Diego last Friday. He lost 30 pounds during boot camp. Hardly recognized him. He is a very different person now. Left as a boy and came home a man.
Bless your heart. Keep your eyes and ears open.
It's an advantage. In this day and age, most people act much younger than their age, so DIs are sick of dealing with immature children. Whining is common and really pisses them off.
Your biggest problem is going to be the squad leaders. They're your fellow recruits put in positions of power they often don't deserve. In the first few days, if a DI says "Give me my four fiercest recruits!" JUMP forward and scream "AYE SIR" as loud as humanly possible. Chances are they're seeing who's brave enough to be squad leader.
Squad leaders eat last, and finish eating first, so it's harder, but it's SO worth it, since you won't have some 18 year old bossing you around and making your life hell because he's sick of being bossed around himself and wants to vent it out on someone else.
If you can get scribe as a position, it's the best. You as scribe decide who get's firewatch, so despite what anyone else says, it's the most powerful position. No other recruit will even call you a mean name if you're scribe for fear of getting firewatch. If they ask "Who can spell? Who has good handwriting?" it's them likely vetting for scribe. if you went to college, make sure they know early on. They'll haze you for it for a bit, but don't react and they'll end up giving you scribe.
The most important thing is to show them you don't have an ego within the first week. That way they see you as a tool to keep the recruits in line, not an obstacle.
Good luck, future Marine.
I've seen a 32 yr old guy go through. He out performed 17-20 yr olds. Don't forget to work out for the CFT. The CFT is just as important as the PFT.
God Bless you brother!
Interested in watching your process, keep posting and good luck bro
I joined the Army infantry at 26, best decision. I’m now 29, I made E5 in 19 months. Since you’re older you understand the importance of setting yourself aside from your peers. Get those early promotions to better support your family.
(I just watched the part where you said you’re joining the reserves… gross)
U just signed up for a lot of responsibility. Know things are you going to be expected of you because age. Don't get down on yourself and relate and grow with your fellow recruits. Don't be big headed God be with you
Proud of you, my man. SEMPER FI
Just subbed Brodie I can’t wait to see you after I believe in you and God bless!!
Good luck! Hopefully, I can call you brother in 13 weeks. You're doing it at 31. As a Marine (former), I can tell you the Marine Corps is nothing to play with. God bless.
Hell yeah man! You’re bound for success with the mentality you have.
It is indeed something completely different. I think the hardest part is just the isolation. You know, no cell phone, no TV, and no laptop. It does serve a purpose in literally "beating the homesickness out of you". Everything else is easy in comparison.