Why NO ONE Uses SMEARGLE Anymore...
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I think the fact that there are open team sheets hurts smeargle significantly.
Open team sheet is the most boring thing ever
@@yunaka_gamingI agree that it’s super boring, however it truly exhibits the skill of the individual player.
@@yunaka_gaming lemme guess, you don't play
@@BlackBeartic229open team sheet means you can see you’re opponents IV/EV spreads, Tera type, ability, and it’s whole moveset. Any surprise with unorthodox strategies is thrown entirely out the window if your opponent can take a VERY educational guess at what your strategy is. It’s no fun. Doesn’t help that with the current power creep, everyone runs Pokémon that are already predictable to begin with because they’re tailor made to be better than everything else out there. It’s like watching a movie, but it’s all been spoiled for you when you buy the ticket. Whats the point?
@@edman9953 You can't see IVs and EVs in Open Team Sheet, which means players can still uniquely EV their pokemon to do things that are unexpected. Even though you can see Item, Moveset, and Tera Type, OTS allows for skill expression and diversity as players can better plan and showcase their skill as there are less random surprises from both parties, and EVs/IVs allow for players to uniquely build their pokemon to their needs.
Unorthodox teams still work BECAUSE they're unorthodox. Wolfey's 2023 Orlando Regional Perish Trap team and Joseph Ugarte's Sun Team with Jumpluff from the 2023 Portland Regional are good examples of this.
Smeargle lost the dawg in him
bring back old dark void and old moody
@@NEET_DG201 no, don’t
@@HeliumHasPassed as a rebuttal; funny
@@NEET_DG201vaild
He lost dat beagle in 'im.
Press F to pay respects for our fallen amigo.
Moody activated and lowered that dawg in him 😢
Smeargle, the king of frauds, shrunk back in fear
And Incineroar said: "Stand Proud Smergale, you are strong"
@@ericshun3926 "Sketch proud Smeargle, you are mid!"
The brainrot is leaking
The one time we thank Urshifu for existing to be a hard counter to Smeargle.
The way meta went from dawg to cats and bears is a very interesting development
@@mysticpumpkin8520 I miss the catfish days
Yea I also wish whiscash was viable @@maestrotritone5975
@@maestrotritone5975fr dozo was just fun,unless it was a mirror match
Urshifu personally is my favorite Pokémon to use in ranked battle because it guaranteed to kill most opponents with one move and it goes through protect due to its ability unseen fist which makes great for doubles especially when dynamax is the only way to protect yourself which is now removed due to terestalization.
Despite Smeargle having made numerous anime appearances ever since the original series, episode 66 (Smashing with Sketch!) of Pokemon Sun and Moon marks the first time in the anime when a Smeargle is seen using it's signature move Sketch. I wonder if maybe we'll see a Smeargle in Pokemon Horizons use Sketch, but in a Pokemon battle?
Smeargle is why Darkrai is OU 😞
Smeargle mugged Darkrai and left him for dead in the alley.
Yeah, open team sheets was the final nail in the coffin…
And his stats were all of the other nails.
Unfortunately upper hand is like sucker punch in that it only works on attacking moves. Specifically, upper hand works on “physical or special moves with a priority from +1 to +3.” So nope, it’s not a tornadus counter.
The only Mon I see using upper hand effectively is someone like Blaziken that can be fast and is resistant to fake out users like incineroar or rillaboom (and I run clear amulet to dodge intimidate) If they don’t click fake out or grassy glide it fails but then I get a boost to temper flare.
its still a nice fake out stopper tho,
@@stunt647I’ve been using it on Okidogi to great success
I think Smeargle is just in an awkward place with the format being OTS, since it doesn’t have that surprise factor (that you mentioned in the section w/ decorate) it makes it difficult to pull off its gimmicks.
I think whenever the Global Challenges show up though, it’s gonna be a different ball game. During that I think decorate and follow me is gonna go crazy. I’m excited to see
People underestimate how much worse Moody is without the ability to boost Smeargle's evasion.
@@KasaazI consider it one of the dumb nerfs next to Para nerf, the hate to Aegislash, and the protean nerf.
(Had to edit due to spell check.)
@@Yinyanyeow They should probably have just redesigned the entire Moody ability instead of just taping part of it away.
@@Kasaaz True.
I still believe you should do it so Dark Void gets 50 Accuracy, but gets like +15 from Bad Dream ability (so Darkrai is viable). And you move Spore to 85 Accuracy, but for Grass-types, it becomes 100 Accuracy (not unlike Toxic). This way, Smeargle becomes useless with those moves, all while making everyone else not bad.
Tera Grass Smeargle?
Tera bad dreams smeargle?
@@damianiscringe1082 Tera darkrai smeargle?
Tera spore Darkrai?
A 50% accurate Dark Void would still be toxic on Smeargle. Making Dark Void not available on Smeargle at all was a good call.
I think the fact that I feel bad for SMEARGLE of all Pokémon should show how devastating power creep has become.
Edit: I understand that it’s not fully power creep that’s removing Smeargle from higher play, it’s the open sheets. But for the sake of not having an extra paragraph (like I apparently should have had from the start) I shortened the whole thing down to just “power creep.” Shut up.
It's not power creep, it's open teem sheets
@@manelneedsaname1773
Or, you know, both.
250 bst
@@DCBiscuit y'know, that feels more like a case where you would say it "fell off". There being other Pokemon that perform specialized roles Smeargle could perform before just as well if not better wasn't completely enough to bring it down, it also took them to change the rules so your opponent couldn't get blindsided by any of the potential sets and moves it could run, which on the other hand wouldn't have been as effective in banishing Smeargle if it wasn't for other Pokemon filling its roles.
Defo not powercreep, just people now being able to know what set its running and not guessing between all of the infinite move combination that he has access to.
Not feeling a bit bad for Smeargle usage dropping to 0, and it's more than deserved for what he did to Dark Void.
I was using transform, spore, decorate (to self transform into my boosted ally from decorate) and protect. I'd never use it, except on ladder 😅
I've been having mediocre success using burning bulwark with a tera dark smeargle to block prankster encores and taunts, it sucks having to give up your tera for it, but sometimes giving it up is worth it for a clutch spore.
Smeargle is an infinite trick pony
Unfortunately it’s like comparing an actor to any type of professional, an actor can perfectly replicate the actions of a professional but the professional is still a better fit for the task at hand
Unless, of course, you happen to be looking for a professional actor.
What about running court change? It’s a really good move. The main problem is it’s only on Cinderace who really doesn’t want to run it.
No dark void no paint dog! That’s the nerf we needed back in gen 4.
I love how a paint dog broke everything
Yeah it was weird not seeing him now i know why
Also the dragon cheer smeargle makes me think about the focus energy scope lems hydreigon
Smeargle is the reason Darkrai was run into the ground, no longer sees play, and (outside of Legends Arkoos) Darkrai didn’t get the Nerfs (placed because of smeargle) reversed
Now in singles when darkrai dropped to OU , people think hypnosis is broken now xD
@@EggscellentTreefr like how are people complaining about something that’s been available since gen 1 now 😂
havent fully watched the video, but to add another point just in case: theres SO MANY GOOD SUPPORTS NOW. if you type 2-4 support moves into showdown that you want you'll almost always find a better mon to use compared to smeargle. we have so many redirectors, prankster mons with an entire dictionaries worth of different moves and bulkier mons with better abilities that set them apart and also having better stats and more desirable typing. youd only use smeargle if you want an excuse to use smeargle since its so weighed down by every part of itself that isn't its moveset.
252 Smeargle CloseCombat vs Chien-Pao: 132-156 (85.1 - 100.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
What about High Jump Kick?
I was initially scared of revival blessing becoming Smeargle’s new dark void but then thankfully it didn’t get it
I also think speed creep was a massive deal, before it would have many more targets it outsped unboosted and could more easily get its shannanigans started, now the only pokemon it outspeeds in the current top 10 usage is incineroar
Calling it early, but I think we're gonna see a HUGE amount of Smeargle at Blueberry Prologue
The thing about Smeargle is that it’s flexibility will make it still always viable on the right team. It’s just not oppressive anymore. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see it win some tournaments still
It’s me, Connor! The one with H-Electrode from the local! Smeargle has been my public enemy Number One for a long time, and this makes me happy.
Those cowards should have gave him revival blessing
7:05 Smeargle hits chien-pao with moon blast: “oh no, anyway”
It is interesting that the thing that hurts it most isn't a change in any game mechanics, but the change in tournament format.
From what I’ve read, Prankster doesn’t count as priority moves for Quick Guard or Upper Hand, GameFreak dropped the ball there for unique tech
Well, thats because upper hand and quick guard are for damaging priority moves
Its says it on the description and all
Absolutely love the Jamal Smith "whack" reference. "The way he doesn't even like to smile, whack!"
i really Hope It stays that way
I like the dragon cheer idea. Sounds fun
My first Reg F team had Smeargle. I lead it with whimsicot and had urshifu and gholdengo in the back. Spore in tailwind was dope and moody plus baton pass instead of follow me was soooo clutch. Depending on what offensive boost you get you can pass into urshifu or gholdengo. Also had incineroar and raging bolt on the team
Question, have you ever thought about making videos about your tournaments? I'd love to see an overview video about how you did in Portland for example!
Video: I don't know why Smeargle has been good. Maybe it's because it learns literally every move in the game.
Me automatically: But that's just a theory. A GAME theory.
Too soon
@@jamesolson6544 I found out after making this post.
Imagine if smeargle had prankster
Sableye and Meowstic have skill swap so it could be given Prankster
If you play without open team sheet this set has been working for me in VGC F
Jolly
Moody
Focus Sash
Upper Hand
Spore
Burning bullwark
Decorate
With Roaring Moon
Adamant
Booster
Crunch
Dragon Claw
Tailwind
Acrobatics
Tera Flying
Smeargle was good when movepools were 15 moves or less. These days, every single poke gets all sorts of coverage and support options.
e.g. Pikachu used to be limited to electric and normal. Then it got iron tail, surf, fly, and so on until it even got a fairy move in the dlc.
And all the signature moves are getting spread around like candy on halloween. Why do we NEED poor smeagol anymore?
Not to undermine your point but Pikachu has learned surf since gen 1
@@itztaytay2 yellow?
@@bobjob2514 Stadium Tutor, so kinda a technicality
@@itztaytay2 That’s really neat though!
I did silk trap as my protect option, only bc I have violet and no access to burning bulwark :'(
18:20 Btw Upper Hand has +3 priority so it will always go first vs a Fake Out, so checking speed tiers is irrelevant here. However the big downside is that it doesn't work against priority status moves, so even with it's huge plus priority it can't block a tailwind.
Fake out is also +3
I had an idea using doodle smeargle and regigigas but replaced it with grafaiai because it was just faster support after losing its ability
Smeargle is just like darkrai, there not himmothy no more
Do you think Decorate + Foul Play on Smeargle would make it more viable? 🤔
Aren't you usually better off with Swagger for that, since it inflicts Confusion and doesn't boost SpA just in case you get KO'd before Foul Play?
@@furiouscorgi6614i think they mean decorate an ally and foul play for damage.
@@mysticpumpkin8520 you're still really frail, so you're probably only getting one move off, Alcremie is far bulkier and has better defensive typing and OTS means they know what to expect
I love this UA-cam channel it’s pretty good it’s entertaining and educational.
I think people just haven't explored smeargle in gen 9 enough for us to really know how good it is
I've been praying for smeargle's downfall 🙏
I'd rework Dark Void by making it unwieldy: revert accuracy to the original level of 80, but make it affect every Pokemon on the field, including the user's ally AND the user. The catch: Pokemon with Bad Dreams passive ability aren't affected specifically by Dark Void's induced sleep.
I feel Smeargle will make a come back when the restricted come back and you can use transform to sort of get another restricted on your team.
I think other reason that caused its fall is some Pokémon now can ignore protect moves specially Urshifu surging strikes are multihit so Focus sash is useless.
Smeargle should get a new evo, make it based on slow offense so it can use a lot more of its moveset
The return of Double Kick Terrakion was truly the final nail in Smeargle's coffin
It was bound to happen eventually as more and more pokemon are added because of 2 factors. 1)Most of the rare moves with limited distribution are attacks, and smeargle doesn't have the stats to attack. 2)As you get more pokemon, you have more sets of stats with more variety in move distribution, which will just lock smeargle out of the competition.
I dunno I've been getting some rage quits with the old Lock On Sheer Cold combo
Upper hand should be priority +4
Turns out a pokemon that relied on a broken move to paper over its godawful stats becomes pretty bad if you take that move away
When every support is an amazing support then no one would be
Game freak watching this video be like: What are you saying? That we give Smeargle prankster and make him a pseudo legendary?
This is the part where somehow smeargle does a huge comback similar to how Amongus did after Ogerpom suppostly "kill" it right?
Idk, after what happened with mr Sussy Baka, I am expecting anything at this point😅
Imagine the shakeup that would happen if Smeargle ended up evolving
Basically, movesets have gotten so good that you need more than just a great moveset to be good.
Revival Blessing on Smeargle would be insanely busted in restricted formats.
y'know what'd be really funny? If Smeargle falling off is gonna open the path for it finally receiving something new, namely an evolution, which has a chance of immediately dominating the meta again, unless they give it some ability to inhibit its potential, like its own version of Mycelium Might.
Upper hand has +3 priority and only works on physical and special moves, so it can't stop prankster mons from pranking
This is the pinnacle of content. Just dunking on Smeargle for 20 minutes.
Waiting for an Araquanid nuke showcase lol
I didn’t even realize smeargle was in the game. I thought they’d never bring him back.
Where was Brian in the ad😢
Smeargle deserve this. Especially after what he did to Darkrai.
Blame the player, not the tool
The smeargles I’ve fought did nothing but annoy the shit out of me for 40 turns then still died and lost the match
I fought against a Smeargle in a ranked match today and it was just confusing. I mean it used Spore but not before I took away most of its HP with an attack. Then turn two it used Belly Drum, which failed because it was in red health, LOL. Then turn three it used Shell Smash. Finally I woke up and killed it after that. Belly Drum AND Shell Smash on the same set? Interesting.
Wait til restricted format to see if he will be used a lot
Right as I’m training up a smeargle lol
Upper Hand does not work on Status moves. It cannot stop a Prankster Taunt or Tailwind.
Upper Hand is +3 priority vs Prankster status moves only being +1, right? So you don’t need speed to use it against Torn/Whim.
Upper Hand only works on damaging priority moves.
Smergle... spike shield or the new paradox entei shield move?
Salt cure slept on move for him😊
Smeargle’s sins have finally caught up with him
"Minor chance of (Smeargle) living a resisted hit."
.. hol' up
I haven’t played vgc until this generation, so I didn’t know what it felt like to play against the REAL Smeargle. And now that it’s in the game, I don’t really have enough matches against it to form an opinion on it
As a Smeargle hater, I think Smeargle needs more nerfs
Good. All GameFreak had to do is to make only Darkrai the only one to learn Dark Void (not nerf it to oblivion)
I'm glad smeargle is being used less, I will never forgive him for getting Darkrai nerfed.
I don't know the exact science on upper hand, but shouldn't tornadus not get flinched by upper hand if tornadus runs covert cloak? Wouldn't it be the same reason as fake out?
Upper hand doesn't work that way. I found out during a tourney run when my Raichu became significantly less good.
Now if only Darkrai could get his godlike dark void back
sketch ought to be given to brian hands so he can unleash his hidden picasso
iron hands cant draw
he just sticks his hand on a piece of paper and lets Ogerpon trace around it to make one of those turkey hand drawings
you just lack faith
That less we see of him the better
This might be no duh but it also can't get the torque moves (team star bases boss moves(
I always thought that smergle would fall off cause ultimate utility can only carry poor stats for so long
6:10 what a normal type resist
No more Dark Void, there you go, video over.
Dark void was removes after gen 6, but smeargle remained really strong in gen 7
I don't think anyone with a love of basic game balance is upset at this news.
Smeargle only gets better as things around it get stronger. When restricted formats come up, it'll be one of the only wide guard users in a meta full of Groudon, Kyogre, and calyrex shadow
The craziest smeargle buff to me would be if it could use sketch to copy other pokemons abilities 😮 the horror...the unimaginable horror 😅
Me who uses Smeargle with Burning Bulwark: 🤫
I think at face value this reduces ALOT of 50/50s with the tera type stuff
Pretty sure Hypnosis DOES hit safety goggles and grass mons...