Xbox DRM Faces Mass Protest As Disastrous Server Outage Left Players Unable To Play Games For Days
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And in my opinion this is why the FTC can't give Activision blizzard to Microsoft
Authentication servers were down that was why it couldn't recognize the accounts.
And just in case that Mattrick keeps wondering why he was given the boot off of Microsoft, all he needs is to take a look at this issue to know the reason.
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@@krazycharlie yet they still hid drm well in series x
So far DRM has provided 2 things to the consumers:
1: Makes the frame rate in some singleplayer games atrocious.
2: Makes singleplayer games require an online connection to even function.
3: Deletes/Corrupts Batman: Arkham City save file, because it required Games for Windows service, that was discontinued. Even though it was redeemed through Steam. [This one's personal]
@@MajorisMons that’s absurd. It’s so stupid that I’m lost for words.
3: Make people continiously pay to play there games / keep there saves (in case of Nintendos NOS and Pokemon Bank).
You’d think that a function that is designed to prevent piracy, and thus only benefits the company, would avoid screwing over the consumer so as to avoid being completely self-defeating… Then again, very few companies seem to acknowledge that good business practices are more profitable in the long term, so perhaps nonsense like this is to be expected.
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki *What.*
At this point, DRM is less about preventing piracy and more about having control over the products. Who, when and where a game can be accessed is all up to the big company.
They don't want Modding
sad indeed.
That’s what it was all about from start company’s have full control over what we can and can’t do
@@joshjo9405 Who would? It increases the longevity of a decent game that would otherwise be replaced by Decent Game 2.5 DLC/MTX Edition.
@@thisguy3500 Anything nintendo related that gets modded is at risk of being taken down. Nintendo hates modding and emulation with a burning passion.
Nobody should ever defend this DRM. At this point, digital games shouldn't be encouraged to be purchased since you don't own it. That's so sad.
Well this only seems to be an Xbox problem. I own digital games on PS and I can play them offline no problem. Same goes for PC
@@godontgo2657 you can play games offline on Xbox too, but the Xbox server screwed over the offline capability. Now, some people can't play it offline anymore, even if it's a single player or a 360 game. I thought Xbox patched it already. Apparently not. This is why I love the Switch console. I don't have to worry about that stuff.
@@unhappytoyman8767 lol a switch. You do be here scamming yourself
@@godontgo2657 I do enjoy a good scam. 😂
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When my son was born I purchased a NES to be able to show my son what gaming was like for me as a kid. I feel sorry for the current generation not being able to show their children because of corporate greed and "always online" and DRM practices. This needs to stop. You buy a game you own the game NOT you buy a game and play it when a company says so.
Agree, you buy something that is not even a bougth is more a lend, and you pay the console plus the game and suscription, and then they ask why gaming is in teh trash, because all of these money, the game doesnt work
Also like you i think how lucky i was to be able to play games, as much as i wanted
Pretty sure you could play most NES games on a modern calculator. Agrre with original sentiment of post, just saying.
@@mrgreen3002 Yes, my smart fridge could probably play NES games lol but it's also about showing him the hardware and controllers I used as a kid as much as the games themselves.
Even if you purchase them physically and it doesn't have DRM most games need a massive update to function properly nowadays which won't be available 20-30 years in the future if you don't keep it saved on your console.
People need to stand firm and force these companies to drop this DRM garbage. The games all get cracked instantly anyhow.
Video game fanboys are notorious for shilling for whatever console they obsess over. Nothing will change.
Yeah if not they need to patch out the DRM the minute the crack drops online. It's the only way to make it fair for consumers cracked games even tend to get better performance due to not having the intrusive DRM running in the background.
@@jakeharman1592 ....do you think the year is 2007?
PC piracy is in sad state right now, what are you on about? There is literally only one single person cracking Denuvo at the moment, and it would take months to crack just one game that has it. Big Publishers have no reason to not use it, Denuvo is winning this war hard.
@@Whickerx7 yeah I notice that there are people that will buy a game but if the cracked version runs better they will just get that version.
Wow, it's almost as if DRM for games is a bad thing, who would've though that?
Oh yeah, LITERALLY EVERYONE.
Who could have foreseen this?!?
@@decipher111 Thanks Denuvo, thanks Irdeto 😆
@JC Denton With that Jim Ryan's ego yes!
@JC Denton to my knowledge Sony doesn't gave any DRM like this. The Cbomb issue got fixed. If there's any do the please lmk cause I wanna be informed lmao
@JC Denton What's the difference here? Japanese capitalism only
This is exactly why I’ve been against buying digital anything, as much as I’m all for everything being digital, I am not ok with these corporations conditioning everyone to be ok with renting vs owning things.
Somewhat unrelated, but I remember years ago when Apple and Disney had a licensing dispute and some people’s digital purchases in the cloud were removed during the dispute. I myself noticed all of my digital movies removed from my cloud, including Disney classics, marvel, etc. Apple and Disney came to an agreement relatively quickly and everything was resolved, but that’s when I realized we don’t anything we buy digitally, we’re just renting them. This is why I still support physical media, until something changes how digital media is handled, because this is not ok.
that's why i'm on PC now.
is there a classic game i want to play badly? i'll download it.
or later on when the x360/ps3 emulation becomes even better.
movie or series? they're online everywhere for free.
@@DarkDyllon yeah.
First step to taking back control is to realize that you never actually own a console. Microsoft and Sony only let you keep the hardware but will always decide what you do/play with it.
Thing is though, even if you own the actual disc, you are still required to connect to download the small data that allows the game to play. Otherwise you’re pretty left with a demo of a full game you own.
The only thing that will change how digital media works is the government offering the SAME consumer protection as they do with physical purchases. We know that won't happen. There are countries with BETTER and STRICTER laws governing digital purchases, but is very little protection here. It's the top reason why these companies are trying very hard to push an "all-digital" marketplace for games and movies in N.A..........so that they can keep your money, even if they remove the product you "purhased" 2 days after you bought it....making it unplayable. Then...only to re-list it, and force you to purchase it AGAIN.
I think this guy hasn’t owned a Xbox console before. 😂 Even you have the physical copy of an old game, you still need internet connection to download the emulation for it.
AAA Game Industry: "Let’s make our rushed games $80 and higher"
Also the AAA Game Industry: "No, you can't play it because I'M having a bad hair day"
You know that something is VERY wrong when pirates get a better service than paying customers
companies go out of their way to ruin their customers experience, if you pirate it you're not their customer and are relatively unaffected
The pirates still release games day one as well 🙃
and funnily enough the suc- I mean customers will suck off and felate these companies as they enforce harder and harder...I'm seeing it even ij the comment section people saying that its not the companies problem someone is a poorfag with shite internet. just move to where theres better isps. (ignoring the fact that many times its server side issues not client)
Pirates are as pro consumer as you can get
It was always like that. Pirated Assassins Creed 2 worked way better than original. No problems with game shutting off because your network went down for few seconds.
"Imagine not being able to read a book because the publishing house is on fire" is such a good way to describe it that I never thought of before. Nothing else works that way I don't know why games need to.
And newsflash to gaming companies, people are pirating your games anyway, all you did was make it slightly more difficult and way more annoying for the actual customers who actually paid real money to support you and your game. EA made a whole big deal about how Sim City and previous versions of The Sims were pirated as justification for their silly Origin service and guess what... Sims 4 is still highly pirated lmao
You know... I can't help but feel a mixture of incredible anger and vindication here, because EVERY FUCKING TIME I bring up the Series X's DRM, I've gotten shouted down saying it's not that bad or even that it doesn't actually exist.
And yet HERE IT FUCKING IS. Enjoy your shitty locked console, everyone, because I fucking told you, MVG told you, but you didn't listen.
Xbox has always been a DRM machine. You will always hear about Xbox's DRM issues. Xbox is a failure of a console that doesn't give what it's customers want.
@@AntEater152 Not entirely true. The OG Xbox and the Xbox 360 (in the first half of its life) kicked ass. But yeah, otherwise it's been downhill from there.
i pirated sims 4 myself at some point.
wanted to play the expansions, but i found the price too steep (had the base game+some expansion)
@@arnox4554 It is true. Some games were locked behind the full experience through paywalls or restricted to the previous console. It was originally called the Content License Transfer.
If you didn't have XboxLive and recently bought a New Harddrive you're screwed. Xbox has always been a failure of a console and it doesn't surprise me.
I'm on Ps5 but I feel this kind of frustration in my soul. Gamers gotta keep solidarity. I had serious issues with our March update which have since been resolved, I hope this gets fixed soon for the X-bros because I know how frustrating it can be.
Ps5 doesn’t have this issue as much as Xbox does literally only gt7 is drm that’s a single title compared to Xbox where you can’t play 99% of your single player owned games…
@@akkibajaj705 yeah the DRM thing isn't the problem I had. I was one of the people that got a weird bug with the March update where connecting to a wifi network rendered the ps5 unable to connect to controllers even wired with Bluetooth turned off. After talking to others who had the same problem and watching some videos on the topic I was thankfully able to fix it. This thing with the Xbox DRMs sounds even more frustrating.
There is no solidarity, Xbox has been inferior since the red ring of death. Xbox has a niche market: 12 year olds. Grown men do not buy Xbox. It’s their own fault
@@akkibajaj705 except Sony also practices drm. We can’t pretend that Sony is innocent. They were estatic when Microsoft mentioned stricter drm regulations. Cause they got feedback without ruining their image. Companies want control.
PS5 does it too. Gran Turismo is the same thing. They call it live service but c'mon? Both companies are dirty here. But Xbox has the shadier reputation so they deserve all they get for this.
I had to deal with this the other day, it was absurd. No matter if I was online or offline, it kept telling me to "sign in as the person who bought the games".
Screw you, Microsoft.
All you had to do was make it your home Xbox, duh.
@@JohnDavisMurderer I literally did that and it didn't work.
D u u u u h. Lmao dummy
@@M.J44 sucks for YOU, doesn't it. I enjoyed my time though.
@@JohnDavisMurderer Must be why my Xbox which is set as my home console, couldn't play games. Setting as a home console shouldn't be a solution either, because setting as home console literary requires an internet connection.
I think it's safe to say that at this point, the only thing that DRM is preventing is people that have actually bought games from enjoying their purchase.
It's been that way for a long time now.
Most definitely as anybody that has figured out how to get a game without paying for it has likely figured out how to play the game as well.
Amen.
@@alexandermccalla5098 yep lol
If you bought it digitally you don’t own the game. I’ve been saying it for years.
It's almost like DRM is bad in general.....Who would've thought.
Who would have thunk indeed.
Consoles have gone wrong. Online only, little local multiplayer, game installation...
Bad for the consumer indeed. But the producers/publishers seem to think that it is good for them.
@Yeltnerb 1 you can play games offline, however a lot of games need update this can’t play, also a lot of people do Xbox game sharing and you can’t play offline games this is known pretty well
@@magicjack4076 you should be able to play single player games without any updates, Nintendo and Sony do it. There isn't an excuse for DRM like this
Game companies: "It's our game, but we'll let you pay for the ability to THINK you have access to it. You wont actually have access to it, but that's your problem."
Microsoft: "That's a good idea. Make it so."
I remember the good old days when you bought a game PHYSICALLY, it's yours to play whenever you want. Nintendo was really cool when they did that. Some Nintendo games still let you play off the cartridge without needing updates or anything.
O remember the good old day, you buy the game put it and work, and now, you have a sub par computer that is less and less durable, as soon as it is not support your done
On my switch, the cartridge and even digital games still let you play without an update, just disables the online service part which I never use anyway.
Yep, atleast both switch and Ps4/5 can still be set up/initiated offline and single player games can be played without any online connection
Yeah, The Switch lets you play almost every digital and physical game offline (obviously not the multiplayer ones), and that's a good thing considering that the switch is supposed to be taken on the Go
@@robsomethin4415 Yeah, I think the Switch is the most likely the last system standing in the next 10-20 years from a “still able to be used” position
Single player games need to be DRM free, period.
All games should be DRM free
You are not gonna be able to play online without internet so DRM is literally useless and only antagonize legitimate users cause pirates don't give a shit anyway
And that's why im still playing 360 with physical games
Me and my homies were still able to play around this time and we're STILL able to play sooooo guess we're lucky 😁
I think?
Single-player games shouldn't have to always been online period, GT7 is a good example of why this is awful.
Yeah and calling Gran Turismo live service is a le loophole as well. So lame. AAA gaming is in a state of nonsense.
DRM never works; it exists purely to placate shareholders/to have an excuse to point at pirates for failure of a product whenever it happens while still claiming they did all they could.
Many times it actively worsens the experience of a paying customer compared to those who cracked the game, even leading some to purchase a game legit and then install a cracked and/or pirated version anyways.
If you are spending literal millions on making your product worse when not stolen, you are wasting your money. That’s the baffling thing about game companies- they’re not only greedy, they’re incredibly dumb about being greedy!
What about steam's drm
@JC Denton and piracy existed since them. There has never been a person that wanted to pirate a game that faced DRM and given up and just brought the game.
Also, remember that copyright infringement is not theft, if you make something and I take it away without your consent, that's theft because you don't have it anymore, but if you make something and I make a copy of it, you still have the original, nothing was stolen.
Piracy started just because people didn't want to pay more for a legit copy, wanted to pay less for a pirated copy, then pay nothing for a downloaded copy, but piracy persists not because price, because the pirated copy is better than the original copy, and often because there's no legit copy to buy.
@@epicjonny155
I can still single player games in offline mode on steam
@@epicjonny155 drm from steam, while it works well enough to not give much trouble, it still can cause problem and steam also allow games in their store to use their own version of drm (if any exist) and even that is breached already
I’m actually surprised that it took this long for it to become a big deal. Because I’ve had this issue since Xbox one and it’s happened multiple times.
Exactly. And the fact that this issue isn't even remotely new but is somehow STILL an issue just goes to show how much they *don't* care.
I’m surprised you threw your money away by buying an Xbox, famous for being created for 12 year old children. Grown men should not be buying / playing Xbox.
@@virtuerse It's not 2007 anymore. No one cares about console wars. Move on already.
@@virtuerse grown men dont choose, we buy everything we want
While I was an avid Xbox gamer before the pandemic, when I got my desktop PC just after my Birthday in late May of last year, I pretty much fully transitioned away from Xbox as a lot of the games I'd play (Cyberpunk, Halo Infinite, Forza Horizon 5) have Steam releases.
Fucking glad I did with this news.
Now you can use that Xbox as kindling, exactly what it was made for. Sorry you spent money on that inferior console.
@eric Spencer you should also throw ur ps5 in the incinerator, I just dislike Xbox systems more :)
Kinda glad this happened as it really raises awareness to a big problem in gaming thats been going on for years and especially the future. We are paying to have access to games we buy further and further into the future instead of owning them. Servers will have problems and will eventually get shut down.
This is why emulation and piracy is partly a good thing, games get preserved and dont have drm.
When was it ever deemed logical that you need to be online to play single player games that don't require a internet connection to play???
so that they cant be pirated, thats y no cod game since mw 2019 has been cracked it all comes down to money, it always comes down to money
@@ShahZahid is more than that ´´you will own nothing and you will be happy´´ is all about drying private proprety and possession.
Don Matrick 2013
The fact that there weren't mass protests to begin with shows you how conditioned "gamers" have become. And this is the reason I refuse to get another microsoft console. If you bought an xbox knowing the DRM policy, you're a part of the problem.
Why tf does a console need DRM anyway?
The internet is never a problem until it is. I didn't know about this issue until yesterday , this past weekend I've been playing The Surge and Gears 5 PHYSICALLY with no issues on Xbox One X. I think the only issue i had was the store wasn't working.
"I can't play games I bought and own." If you think this about digital games you are dead wrong. Read the user agreements, you do not own ANY digital games, movies, shows, books etc. What you paid for was access to that digital content and this access can be terminated at any time for any reason. The very best user agreements say they'll give you "reasonable" warning time that access will be terminated, such is the case with Elden Ring for example, but the vast majority don't say anything about giving you a warning if and when they choose to terminate access to the content. No there is no legal recourse, no one will be suing anyone because you, me, everyone, we all clicked "I agree" when we "bought" a digital game. Yes legally they could give you access for a single day and then terminate it. That's how shitty our consumer protections are and far we've let this go by not reading and understanding digital content user agreements and just making huge false assumptions that it's just like buying physical.
Guess who really do "own" their games? Pirates... This is what game companies either don't understand, or don't want to. DRM only affects paying customers.
When the DRM not only stops piracy but also the people who paid for the games legitimately
Except it doesn't stop piracy...
The only thing it stops is people that legitimately bought the game from playing it. Piracy still continues. It’s a joke.
@@EvilSanta482 Pirates laugh at DRM and call it trash!
@@EvilSanta482 stop it you’ll hurt the DRM’s feelings. Let it have this one
@@ricardohoang8452 I always chuckled when I hear about DRM being cracked in hours after release. Makes me wonder if the deneuvo CEO has dirt on some of these other CEOs.
Once again people are being reminded that we don't own our games anymore. If it's digital, you've merely rented it. If that license can't verify then you can't play. That's the level of control that's been given to these platforms and these companies now.
Plus, in many cases, physical media is not the solution because many physical games have DRM, or require a download to play the full version of just play at all, physical games nowadays are just a fancy digital purchase, piracy is the solution.
@@silverdamascus2023 you remember when games didn’t launch broken Can you really name one game in the past 5 years that wasn’t broken
@@defiantralph3327 there's actually plenty, yall just only pay attention too overhyped multiplayer games and any garbage ubisoft shits out, and cyberpunk which I never cared about lol, there are other companies that make games besides EA, ubisoft and Activision lol
@@Supersonicspyro This still means that a huge part of all games released in the last 10 years are games locked behind servers, if Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo shut down their servers, or internet on the whole world goes down, a lot will be lost because it wasn't actually saved on your disc/cart, it was on the servers.
Even if you can play the games offline because you had physical copies, no patches, no updates, no DLC, and many games cannot be played because they were only online-multiplayer or required a download to play even the offline content.
@@silverdamascus2023 that's very much a case by case basis, there's plenty of games that would still be playable provided you actually bought them and they weren't from a subscription, and at the very least you can always hack your console and install updates or override any licensing issue that way, it's not all doom and gloom, at least not yet
We dont use the term "own" we use "extended rental"
"Players should no longer be seeing issues when it comes to purchases, launching games, or joining Cloud Gaming sessions."
No, they shouldn't. Ever. It's f---ed up,.
I like Xbox, both their consoles and most of their policies, but this is inexcusable. Any function that screws over the consumer is not a good system, and intrusive DRM not only screws over the player, but _actively encourages the very thing it is ostensibly designed to prevent._ In other words: piracy is a service problem.
Are you not surprised? Thought they'd sweep their drm of 2013 under the rug?
They just hid it well enough into the xsx and xss and most never noticed till now.
@@mutalix Except the DRM hasn’t really done anything before now, and people are normally able to play their downloaded games while online. While this is completely inexcusable, the fact that it came completely out of left field, and that Xbox kept failing to properly fix it, suggests that this was not intentional. That being said, this should never have happened, and the people at Xbox need to take steps to ensure this cannot happen again. What a mess.
None of this should be surprising. The whole industry is designed to screw over the customer’s. Micro transactions everywhere you look, half baked game’s releasing at full price. The industry is a joke… greedy executives only care about the money rolling in because they some people are brainless and will still buy half ass games every year.
DRM is like American gun laws. They only hurt law abiding people
The problem is immediately apparent, you started your comment with “I like Xbox…” when Xbox is made for 12 year old children.
I used to only play on the xbox. The fact that singleplayer games require a connection really made me reconsider my support for them. Now I've fully switched away to PC, where I can start my single player experience in offline mode if I need to. Would be handy if Xbox had a similar feature
Even the existence of an "offline mode" at all varies with each game (and platform/launcher).
@@Stratelier yeah ,it's a shame gog isn't supported by fromsoft and rockstar ect.
I still see a lot of people mistakenly believe they "own" bought digital games. You don't own shit. You bought a license.
Microsoft just easily showed us why we shouldn’t go all in on digital. The fact that people were locked out of playing games that WE OWN. Physical copies should never fade out for this exact reason. I almost wanna sell my Series S just to not face this issue again
Actually selling your digital only systems, (or indeed, not purchasing them in the first place) is one action that could put a dent in their efforts to create an all-digital, DRM future...
Microsoft in 2013: "If you don't have a good internet connection, there's always the 360."
Microsoft in 2022: *"Fuck your 360, YOU'RE NOT PLAYING YOUR GAMES EITHER!"*
I think this problem actually only affected the Series X and maybe the One. I've been using my 360 Slim offline for a very long time now without issues.
@ Arnox, THE 360 IS ALSO HAVING ISSUES.
@@laurieannrogan1317 What issues?
Its been like 10 years and these people still dont understand that DRM brings more problem than it worth
Just curious, exactly what worth does DRM bring? I am under the impression that it's a 100% anti consumer feature with absolutely no benefit to the consumer. Buying digitally isn't inherently a DRM feature, so what value does it give to the consumer?
@@rnadmonmubre The point is to prevent piracy; DRM makes it so you can't just upload a game's files to Google Drive and let anyone download a paid game for free. The problem is DRM has never prevented games from being pirated, it's been proven to severely hamper performance (at least on PC), and it causes shit like this to happen.
So you're right--there is no benefit to the consumer, only the company
@@rnadmonmubre well it prevents piracy at least for some time, the initial time period during launch brings most revenue so they use DRM so that the game dosent get cracked (pirated) during that time, but regardless it always does after some time, PC has got the most intrusive DRM as piracy is most common on it, DRM's like denuvo are very CPU heavy and will refuse to launch the game if you tamper with they just a little or install mods like reshade, and with them being heavy they even cause performance issues, while as the pirated version that have the DRM removed run flawlessly, the only games that dont get pirated are the ones which have always online DRM like you can see in this video
the devs know thats its useless to use DRM, but its the greedy shareholders, directors thag want every single penny, even if it costs them millions of dollars to implement it
@@ShahZahid That is absolutely false in vast majority of cases. Especially now, when the actual sales 'boom' comes before the game is even released, therefore DRM has zero effect on it (cause the buyers themselves don't even have the game to share it).
But just so you know, there are times when DRM is, in fact, broken before the game even releases. If the game was leaked somehow, for example. Or if the DRM is so crappy (and there are ones like that) that you don't actually need to do anything special from game to game. This is why once a DRM type was broken once in some game, the same DRM in other games will be broken within hours, even minutes.
DRM has no benefits to consumers. Zero. It never was intended to have benefits to consumers. It was simply not designed with that purpose in mind. It is strictly for the benefit of the rights holders. Though in every single case it does a horrible job at that.
They lost a weekend. PSN guys remember the great outage of 2011. That was a tough month.
Just remember folks, the more digital games we buy, the less demand there is for physical game's. It's up to use to buy more physical, just look at the statistics, physical purchases are dying out.
This is why we made the Xbox One fail, back in 2013.
Why do people accept this 10 years later? Why are people suddenly fine now with the "you own nothing and be happy" paradigm?
We have to make Microsoft suffer the consequences of it once again.
@@perpetualhavoc Sad to see the brainwashed Fortnite kids accepting this.
Because "Muh game pass" Bullshit. Already these dudes happily pay for stuff they will not own. I don't feel sorry for these type of dudes. I do feel sorry for people that bought offline single player games and couldn't play them. Now that's fucked up
@@CroneRaven1810 game pass has a huge PC audience as well and Sony has updated their system to include a variation of it so I mean... It's literally present on all consoles, across multiple generations. Just because you and I don't use it doesn't mean it's a niche thing. It is unfortunately extremely popular.
Yea ten years ago, even as a younger lad back then I enjoyed the old era of gaming, now tho most have grown up & are normalized to the shitty practices within this greed ridden industry (at least regarding AAA side), they've never know there was & is an alternative.. That said to see change in the larger companies you'd need mass boycotting of both the major platforms supporting/pushing this shite & the games/devs that only release to those platforms if they aren't obligated to rather than putting it on other more less intrusive platforms.
For consoles yea this is fucked they want control & they've all the power thanks to the fanboy armies they've cultivated that would pay for a shite with their logo on it.
PC is better tho still with it's own issues albeit with a wider variety of choice & the ability for fans to mod & patch stuff out for themselves provided they learn how or someone shares it after doing it themselves.
@@jackhazardous4008 And pirates got better way to crack games lol
Are we really paying for games to play or for a "license" to access them? I'm so glad I still have my PS1 and PS2, as well as original Xbox and Dreamcast. Those games for those consoles belong to ME, not locked behind DRM.
Damn Right
@@butmisstron8153 Yeah!
That's why i emulate games i own (so get off me fanboys, cause it's legal if you own the game copy).
@@lughzi1591 Sadly, emulation is the best way to ensure the game is truly yours and free from any DRM shannigans.
You're paying for a license. Thats how movies and games work. Thats why you can buy a movie but you can't stream it without infringijg on copyright.
@@lughzi1591 Actually owning the game doesn't make it legal, you have to use the copy you bought and scan it yourself if you want it to be legal.
But nobody cares, it may not be legal but you still gave the dev money.
The harder they implement DRM, the better they make piracy look. There's no reason to ever bar people from playing offline games they purchased and stored.
I've said it before and I'll say it again GAMEPASS=DRM
All they did was rebrand it and sell you all on bullshit.
Pay to play services are a cancer, you spend thousands and end up owning nothing.
Entirely dependent on MS.
Stop supporting this shit.
Thanks for featuring my tweet! I was so confused as to why it blew up the way it did.
I understand not wanting your games pirated…but these companies need to stop being so hyper obsessed with having control over their games once they’ve released. This is out of hand.
You will own nothing and be happy
Anti-Piracy measures have existed long before DRM, the difference is that DRM is cheaper and much easier to implement than proper anti-piracy mechanics, and with how most AAA games are made these days they need that extra time
@@enterprisedavidcain I’m not above pirating lol
@@enterprisedavidcain yo ho yo ho off to tortuga
@@weabootrash5891 Um...You do know that DRM existed from before you could actually play computer games (since there just weren't any computer games to begin with), right?! It's just that it had more...physical...forms. Literally, requiring the disc to play (or diskette). At the earliest stages, the DRM was kind of built-in into the design, since there was no memory on the consoles themselves. That's what gives the illusion that DRM is a 'newer' thing.
This companies need to stop charging $70 - $80 for a product or expecting people to pay 'day-one prices' if they don't allow their consumers to enjoy those purchases freely.
Simple.
This was why I refused to buy GT7 despite being a huge GT fan
It’s like we don’t actually own games anymore. We’ve pretty much lost a lot of our consumer rights and protections.
This is why you should NOT rely on digital purchases. Only purchase physical copies
People were saying “make it your home Xbox and don’t game share” I don’t do that and I still couldn’t play my owned games! It was so frustrating
Situations like these are so sad it's funny😂
The gaming industry is falling down fast and people will still defend this just because it's Microsoft. Don't matter if it's Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, etc...it is a disaster. Single player games must always be playable with or without internet.
@@J90I yeah, for every good/decent game released there will be 10 bad/rushed ones. Excuses like "bUt mY GaMepASs" or "WhAt AbOut ELdEn RiNg" are things i often read in defense. If this is the future of gaming, i want a time machine to travel back to the past when games launched complete and the only multiplayer was splitscreen offline.
@@voiceofreason4551 I miss 2009 when i was 3 and used to play PS2 constantly with my cousin, if i could go back, i would be able to beat my cousin in some games and perhaps help him in shaolin monks... I used to be so dumb as a kid so going back would be nice.
@@J90I there’s plenty of passion in games still, just not in AAA games for the most part, indie games are where the passion is.
Sony and MS gets bashed. Its the Majority of Nintendo fans that seem to lack comprehension and understanding when Nintendo does anti consumer shit. All 3 of them are ass
@@lughzi1591 i know the feeling. Me and my brother used to play the original ps2 Star Wars Battlefront 2, DBZ Budokai Tenkaichu games and Jak X all the time. Those where the glory days but now? Mostly live service crap, incomplete garbage games and lootboxes as far as the eye can see. I feel like an old man saying this but: back in the day things where better...
Isn't this exactly what gamers rebelled against in like 2013, crippling the launch of the Xbox One?
After several unsuccessful attempts to find an XBX I decided to quit. And now after looking at this I made the right call.
I'm still shocked at how many people didn't know about this in 2022. That's why I haven't heavily invested in Xbox over the years.
pc master race
There's a lot of new gamers who have only known 2 generations of consoles. They haven't been educated on what's missing.
There's a lot of idiots as well who just assume that gaming companies put the customers first and not their wallets, but that's a different mountain to tackle.
The irony is that people who pirated the games were playing them while those who paid were lock out.
This exactly why I always buy physical games. Problem is depending on the game or other circumstances, you still can't play physical games offline. Even after setting your console to allow offline play. Im surprised that more people aren't mentioning this as it is exactly what they did during the first launch Xbox One and its backlash.
This is exactly why I'm not a fan of gamepass. It's just a pretty version of their original Xbox one plans. And a lot of people fell for it.
I still can’t believe anyone bought any Xbox hardware after the repeated red rings of death. It just goes to show you, that if you vote with your dollar, Xbox players voted to shit on themselves. Intelligent bunch!
@@DrunkDragons18 Actually GamePass is amazing. It's more understandable for this situation on GamePass though actually owning a game via digitally or physically, this shit definitely shouldn't happen. Playstation FTW.
Man 2000 to early 2010’s was literally the golden age of gaming we all took it for granted
Agreed. I use to rent or buy a new game every week. Lucky if I buy half a dozen games a year now.
oh yes. i remember games actually working day 1 then.
Yeah, not sure if its embarrassing or impressive that my n64 is more reliable than my modern hardware.
ive said it and i'll say it again: True Gaming died when the 360/PS3 stopped being on top
@@nickm5419 so many great memories on my ps3 drunk-playing fall of cybertron pvp online, or mk9 king of the hill on 360 with the boys.
This is exactly why it's dumb that these video game corporations keep pushing for everything requiring an always online connection. Building your system in such a way that it is reliant on a constant Internet connection is a very bad idea, and will come back to bite us in the backside in the long run.
Building the system to rely on an internet connection at all is a very bad idea. Once the servers go down, most games from the 2010s onwards are going to be in a state ranging from crippled to unplayable, unless the person was able to download the patches and DLC before the servers went down.
@@thetechconspiracy2 You could also blame game developers for making their games like that and the idea that they could just “patch it later” if the game is broken on day one and don’t take their time to finish a game.
Go to the settings and make your Xbox "My Home Xbox". That will allow you to play any digital or disk game that you have payed for and have fully downloaded. You don't NEED a constant connection
The reliance on the internet has proven to be the worst thing ever to happen to video games.
This was infuriating for me, I mainly play single player games on my series S, the fast load times and small size are a god send, but this past weekend I was pissed. Even as my 'home' Xbox the system kept telling me I needed to be online to play any of my games (even digital games from the 360 era.) I utterly despise DRM, and if this is the future of gaming, needing a constant connection or over-reliance on servers for single player experiences... Then I will find a new hobby. I already hated the loss of split screen gaming to more online focus, but that is just spelled out a game will have a shorter lifespan overall... THIS however is now telling me that consoles as a whole are not going to last if a server decides to die.
There needs to be a massive change in accountability within the industry. Whoever is making these major decisions on tech implementation should be required to be the front and center of all customer service inquiry. That way these issues and questions are in your face instead of just directed to some poor bastard working entry level.
Never gonna happen. Stuff like this is the reason customer support exists to begin with.
More like a change in the entire economic system. Late-stage Capitalism.
I think about this way to much
This is not a surprise. Microsoft, in general, has pretty key services that go down and cause issues for alot of people. I work in IT and when Office 365 mail services go down we get bombarded by calls from our customers.
As far as DRM is concerned, it should be removed. If not removed, it needs to be implemented in such a way it doesn't stop players who play SINGLEPLAYER games from playing something they paid for. This is absolutely silly that we live in a day and age where companies STILL can't get DRM right.
From what I've gathered online, PlayStation and Nintendo don't seem to have this problem, it's an Xbox thing.
But yes, I totally agree.
@@mutalix Nintendo doesn't have this problem because they barely know what the internet is. But there are occasional benefits to them being so behind the times.
I've been saying that Xbox players let Microsoft get away with this. Hopefully enough outrage forces Microsoft to stop this BS. After the GT7 mess, I hope Sony also doesn't try it
Xbox players have been shown to have the smoothest brains of all players. There are a lot of peer reviewed studies on this topic.
You'd think the DRM would be as simple as a line of code that is used to verify if the game has been legitimately purchased. You know what? You could probably do that within the system you use, regardless of internet connection or not.
Honestly:
*These games get pirated/cracked either way so there’s no point in having DRM, in my opinion*
Might as well piraqte them to get the DRM free version for a better experince, no matter the cost.
Been proven that games run worse with needless Denuvo installed.
Access is everything. Getting a Pirated copy of certain games isn't easy to do and requires an elevated level of use that most people don't want to do and will pay to supersede. The Dreamcast Pirating, Saturn Pirating, Sega CD Pirating are an overstated Issue. Sega failed in the console market because of the shear gravity of expense involved in the disjointedness between Sega America and Sega Japan. Releasing the Sega CD attachment then Sega Saturn then Sega 32X and to top it off they had an extreme amount of Prototypes for the Sega Dreamcast that just made their stay in the console market difficult. Sega lost all that money for doing stuff that had no association with the console. It does make devs feel safer when there is at least some DRM to stop people from playing illegitimated versions of their games or dumping the ROM but that has never been an issue outside of the lack of Copyright law and against bootlegging in certain countries, where pirated games were mass sold in shops, making it difficult to penetrate the market with legitimate games.
@@BoolXor You are missing one very important point. Anyone that pirates a game was never going to buy it in the first place. Pirates do not cut into potential profits. But, corporate paranoia does.
@@maximvsdread1610 honestly there are many cases of people who pirate games that go on to buy the game afterwards.
And the sad part is that there are "still" people defending DRM practices. Not companies mind you, regular consumers going out of their way to defend DRM whenever it is used.
After all, "they" have never had any problems with it so why should you care. "Might just be a filthy pirate".
I mean, I can understand some level of read/copy protection in games. The publisher/developer want to make as much money back as possible and not leave anything on the table.
But it seems like you could achieve that with comparatively basic measures designed to just stop low effort copying and uploading.
Exactly! Like Marlon gaming nation. Yesterday he was saying DRM was bad and now today he says it's not an issue just because ppl chat funded his series s! They bought it for him just so he would change his tune and spread misinformation to his viewers. So sad bruh...
Piracy at this point tends to be the last option people go to if they are actually going to pay for the game. Only resorting to it if they can't play it legally.
I seen people on steam forums saying drm free is only for people who want to steal games.
@@bluetooth2677 People are going to steal regardless. If people see value in it they tend to buy the game, DRM has a tendency to lower the value to people.
Suffice it to say, if we're headed for an all-digital future for video games, things like this should *never* happen again.
Remember kids, video game companies are not selling you a product, they are selling you a licensing agreement to use their entertainment service (or a Casino if you are EA). Think of it like a subscription where instead of charging every month/year... they do so by offering you DLC. I don’t even understand why they sell physical copies of a game nowadays. It’s just like buying the digital version with extra steps. Oh and if you aren’t already frustrated with the situation, I highly suggest you read the terms and conditions you are forced to accept to play the game because in most cases, if the network for the service shuts down/ fails/ bans you/ etc., you may not have legal recourse.
Pirates will help.
Hey, we get what we put up with. People bought into digital downloads and DRM, myself included, and this is what we get. We all knew it was coming, we've all been talking about it for years, and yet we all continue to support the system we knew would bite us, eventually. Storage is cheap now, I'd rather own everything I want to buy on a local drive than own everything in the cloud. Or at least have the option of both.
We?
@@aaronvalere3832 If you are someone who has never purchased a digital game or a game with DRM then you are someone who has likely not purchased a game in the past 20 years. Yes, "we" have all bought into the system, unless you stopped buying games some twenty or more years ago. If you don't agree please explain, as your response is vague.
When you say we you presume to speak for everyone.
@@snappertrx psp games don’t have drm and it hasn’t been 20 years since Einstein
@@xbrandon2252 Well duh. Not every single game made has DRM. Neither do NES games, or SNES games, or physical Switch games. Moat digital games contain some kind of DRM preventing them from being used by anyone but the original buyer. Even Switch downloads do the same thing, as do Xbox or Playstation or Steam. And they've done that for years, and we've all bought their games for years. Thanks for the compliment, though. I'm not as smart as Einstein, but I'm flattered you'd think I was.
I'm a lover of physical games, and will always buy a disk over a download, I know that might sound stupid, but I grew up in the late 80's 90's and owning a physical cartridge, with its art, box, manual, made it feel like you owned a piece of that games legacy. I find a list of Digital downloads just doesn't hold the same weight or feeling and to a collector, that feeling is a reason why most of us started collecting them. I realize "collecting" is not important to everyone and I respect that, but what IS important to everyone that enjoys games is having the ability to play them when you want to without restriction.
In this age of digital rights management, it feels like they are deciding to separate us more from those purchases, you bought it yes, but you can't play it if its offline!? that's crazy to me.
Hopefully the voices will be as loud as they were, when they made Microsoft re think their DRM intentions back then. It's creeping in, their plan is still happening.. and here it is with game pass, the xbox DRM dream is back but the difference is they made everyone LOVE it because of how they presented it.
If I told you that you can rent games from Microsoft and only play them with an online connection, you'd be pretty unhappy.... but in actuality I just described Gamepass. It's good value with a lot on it... but let's not forget what it is. a rental service.
You buy a disk nowadays you will not have that game on the disk, it will have your key and launch the downloader where you will get your game files the same way you get them digitally. A lot of modern games wouldn't even fit on a disk.
@@fredhurst2528 True in some cases, not all. smaller games that get physical releases are all on disk. Mostly they are only the games that say on the box "internet connection required" if it doesn't say that, then it will work based on what's on the disk.
but in any case, once it's installed, any single player game should be playable offline completely.
I know they do it for piracy reasons.... but pirates are going to pirate and the only thing DRM hurts is actual paying consumers.
@@MinistryOfGamersMOG what you said at the end is only partially true as well, in fact I believe the metrics they gather online is (nowadays) even more important than piracy protection, at least it is to the larger publishers.
Update. It's still happening. Since this instance I've had 3 other outages. Smaller scale but it's been so frustrating not even being to able to play even just my offline games
And now we see firsthand why physical copies of games are always important. Though even with that, always online games should always be questioned and scrutinized.
I have bought disc copies of some playstation games and yet you still had to be online, first to download the game and then to play said game. The disc for many games does not actually have the physical data on it, just a passport to download.
I play on Xbox and it really frustrates me how I can't play games purchased digitally offline unless I'm playing them on my 'home console'. If I've paid for the game I expect to be able to play it.
It's why I mainly buy my PC games on GOG. Yeah I have to wait a lot longer, but at least the games are DRM free.
Just set your Xbox to home console then…
This needs to change. Actually. Or the “HOME” feature needs to be expanded to more consoles. Maybe add a family of (3) consoles per Adult profile. Or Any Xbox the user has logged into by password. And a more passive DRM check would be maybe after 90 days without Internet connecting the NEXT time the device connects to XBOX Network force another password login to verify the device is still owned & operated by said User.
@Mountain_Watcher_87 So the home console feature is to let other users play your games. It actually does so little for the actual person who actually makes it their home. Under normal circumstances, you can play your game that you bought on any system so long as it's connected to the internet. You shouldn't have problems unless you're playing with a different account or you live in a poor country.
@@royedwards2366 Yes, I think you're right about the home console functionality. But I shouldn't need an internet connection to start-up a game I have paid for. I understand Microsoft wants to prevent people from copying or sharing games without having to pay for them, or whatever it is people do, but it should be done in a way that does not restrict a person's ability to play games they have legitimately purchased.
Does anybody else remember the DRM nightmare before when a particular company said they sold games DRM-free (on DVDs at the time) when it was found the DRM was buried on the media anyways. I think it was SecureDisc DRM. Anyways, time to take a GOG stance on releasing true DRM-free games.
That outage shat on my weekend. Couldn't play anything on xb1. I had to bust out my 360 and fire up the only disc I own. Its the one time every 10 years I go "ah yes, this is why I hold onto my old consoles"
My Xbox freaked out for 30 seconds.
It kicked me off cyberpunk for 30 seconds, upon checking which console was set as my home console it just opened cyberpunk again.
Time to buy all the games I thought I had access to in physical copies.
Man, the AAA gaming industry has really been falling apart these past 2 years... Can't say I'm shocked or disappointed.
No we have to keep it sustainable for investors and the stock markets or else we want to suffer another stock market crash not just in the game industry but also movies TV cars technology gas everything so investors are trying to keep the stock market in check or else it collapse they're trying to become a trillion-dollar company all companies are trying to achieve the same goal As Apple is doing
The last 2 years? Make it, the last decade.
Its has been falling apart 7 years ago actually
This degradation has been occurring for over a decade, it’s nothing new at all and the trajectory will not change at all since games will always appeal to younger audiences that know no better than that which they grew up with. If adults can accept things like FIFA 22, and madden, then children will gobble it up like it’s candy to them. This will only get worse and I guarantee it.
@@kevingame3198 Let the market crash happen, then. Let the AAA industry burn, and then something better can rise from the ashes.
Yet again they are trying to push DRM, and this time on a console that has been doing so well with Xbox Game Pass. And once again we as gamers should push back and speak with our wallets.
It didn't stick around for music.
DRM has existed when the Xbox launched. This is not some brand new thing they tried adding. It's just that nobody cared till now.
Umm won't work with casual
It’s been there since it come out, you can play your games offline unless someone else has your licence
We have to make Microsoft learn the mistake they also did in 2013.
This is why physical boxed disc based games are so important. Many gamers have lacking or non existent internet.
I love how every response out of Microsoft has players being able to make purchases is their top priority. Never mind whether you can actually run the game. Give us money.
You messed up buying Xbox, the clearly inferior product since the red ring of death. Have fun throwing money into an incinerator supporting Microsoft.
@@virtuerse I never purchased any new system past the 360. I don't know why you are saying I am an owner of one. I have the Switch, anything beyond that I use the PC.
And ive seen people say that DRM is "no big deal"
Definitely Ubisucks richkids 😂
Morons.
Those idiots are all PVA glue eating morons, it always frustrates me that they think that just because their Internet is reliable and that they won't care about the game in a years time that there's no problem.
Sadly we're racing headlong into a world where ownership of anything is being replaced with renting and few seem to care "cause it's convenient" :(
"Everyone's got an internet connection, bro. Why you stressin', bro? It's not a big deal, bro."
@@arnox4554 "everyone is connected these days" (doesnt matter drm still sucks and servers go down)
"My smartphone is always connected and it cant do anything without internet so i dont care" (another lie and a big one, while you cant use the internet without connection you can still, you know, use the thing be it to play games, watch movies or just whatever the fuck you want)
If I could go to the past in 2010s and tell people this issue is a thing in the future, they would've call me crazy and stupid
I’m so glad I can play Ghost of Tsushima/Horizon/ God of War offline 😌
This happened to me this past weekend. Started on Friday and continued through Sunday. I kept getting the same message about needing to sign but I am the account owner and was signed in but nope games would not work. At one point it even affected HBO Max.
I love when I tell people why I buy physical still, and they push back on me SO HARD when I say digital only games are risky, exactly because of situations like this. A disc lasts decades. A digital copy lasts as long as Xbox *lets* you have it. Or Playstation, or who ever else does this kind of stuff.
During this issue, you couldn't play disc based games either if it wasn't set to your home console.
plus you can sell you game on, which you can't do with a digital.
@@COMMANDandConquer199 having games on disc resolves a lot of potential problems, but if that's the case here, then its even worse of a problem. They should be sued. And I don't say that often, but a physical xbox disc should work on any working Xbox console (assuming the generation of the disc and console match). Otherwise, xbox is failing to meet their end of the business arrangement.
Most disc's today only contain a launcher or Downloader. You won't have a playable version without initial downloads. And drm ist still included, if it is in, and still will fail. If the game needs a service that is down, it doesn't care if it comes from a disc. And more and more you are account bound. So no easy selling either.
What sucks (for me, anyway) is that sometimes the digital version of a game will go on sale CHEAPER than the physical. I get to a point where I cave in and buy it digital just to save a few bucks.
"Somehow we told you so, just doesn't quite cut it."
He said while playing his Switch with cartridges.
Maybe you should walk up to Phil and slap him across the face. 😂
@@ClassicGamingPortal Keep my game license OUT YOUR FUCKING SERVERS.
@@decepticonmecha that's the thing my friend, if you bought digitally, you don't own the license. You just rent it
@@slimslendy2591 Well, fuck me for buying digital, then. LOL
@@decepticonmecha 😂😂😂
Can confirm, this is still happening right now.
Tbh it wasn’t all players, I and most of my friends was completely fine over the weekend only one of my friends couldn’t connect
I feel kinda bad that the workers that receive the blunt of fan backlash, support and bug fix teams, are not the bigger offenders on this issue. Execs must be held accountable on their push for DRMs.
QA/bug testers are also the first employees to be let go when money gets tight, with games being rushed to release rather than properly checked over. The players will do all the bug-testing anyway, won't they? /s. But yeah, most people agree it's the executives and publishers at fault.
Eh, these problems would not happen if said workers would actually work for once, wich i honestly doubt,
considering the absolutely desolate state of all microsoft products from Windows to Xbox.
Cant blame a restaurant chain for some retarded chef messing up your order.
Totally agree. However it's 'Brunt' not 'blunt' of their backlash. I know, nobody uses brunt as a word anymore, but that is the saying nonetheless 👍
@@TheTingcat like fallout 76- er I mean bugout 76
Finally people are starting to see that depending on a company's sake to play your games isn't the best approach, i love xbox but this needs to change and be spoken more often, otherwise it's like we payed full price for games that we do not own if a company dies or struggles with servers. (sorry if i had typos, i struggle with english 😂🤘)
Buy to rent games
@@shafta2010 exactly x'D
They will never ever even acknowledge that people are asking about why they can't play single player games offline. Never. And when a company refuses to even acknowledge something a huge number of people are asking about, there's only one reason: The answer is the worst possible reason.
This happened to me last week, and that's the only question I had, why can't I play any of my single player games? Lol
Imagine a scenario where xbox network goes out for a long period like PSN did in 2011. No digital games for almost a month, even if they are single player only. I have been playing Hitman recently (a game that already has stupid online DRM attached to it). I was sporadically able to connect during the outage, but it was usually only after long periods when xbox servers were slightly less messed up. Most of the time, i wasnt able to play. Incredibly disappointing that this even happened in the first place, and shows the dangers of DRM to the playing and preservation of games.
Was this the thing that said “you need to sign in as the person who purchased this game”?
Worse. Everything worked except the service which verifies that games worked. So you could use UA-cam just fine, but if tried to play a game like MCC it would tell you to connect your Xbox to the internet.
@@royedwards2366 oh. God that’s so stupid
I have an xbox one I just cant use. My father bought it for me and it had like 12 big games on it. I got the 99 cent game pass and after it expired, I was unable to play ANY games that I owned if they were on the game pass list. And it never got fixed. I went out and grabbed fallout 4 and halo the MCC and neither one worked. Even offline. I had to buy an entirely new xbox and I wasnt allowed to transfer my account to the new one, and had to buy everything again. To this day I have an xbox one sitting in my closet that techincally works but, you know, xbox.
This issue wasn't just store and games. We were unable to play any of the movies or tv series we have purchased through Xbox TV/Video all that weekend, either.
somebody needs to get started now on the legal paperwork for the inevitable impending classaction lawsuit. Something demanding full refunds for entire game libraries that will eventually disappear through a series of events that were in no way avoidable by the user. Maybe if such a series of documents were prepared these big companies might actually put some effort in to prevent at least some of these very anti-customer behaviors that are being displayed and have been getting exponentially worse over the years...
The case has no ground to stand. You can't make a case based speculation about something that can "potentially can happen in the future."
@@NoName...... it generally takes a long time to deal with the government as it is, and with these issues going unaddressed for over a decade at this point and the ever ongoing push for everything becoming digital format I think its pretty safe to assume its not just a "might potentially occur" but rather there is very strong evidence to suggest it will certainly be an issue. playstation, nintendo, and xbox have all had issues in some way or another and have yet to truely correct course for the future.
“Mass protest”
People as soon as the issue is fixed: “Well they fixed it, I guess Xbox isn’t so bad after all”
*Protest ends*
I just think it’s funny that gamers “protest” but end up playing like nothing ever happened once the issue is band aide resolved lol
I dealt with this a long time ago when I sold home theatre. If someone couldn't make their tv or DVD player work, I would get an angry, rage-filled phone call. I'd fix it over the phone, they'd suddenly get happy and nice, and hang up.
Honestly, looking back, it was like dealing with junkies in withdrawal. As soon as they got a hit, they were happy with life again.
@@shakalaka5446 more like they have no more reason to be mad because their problem is fixed, at least in your regard.
@@satiricalzero raging about missing the Simpsons is weird. It should not happen. And the fact that the TV wasn't working and then was shouldn't bring about such an abrupt change. They would get straight-up serene. I'm going to stand by the drug metaphor.
Probably because most 'gamers' don't really care much about things like 'game preservation' or whether they actually own their games or not.
They're happy to play their Call of Duty or whatever until the next big publicity title games out and they switch to that. The service going down, in their mind, is just the service going down, something to be angry about in the moment, but not a symptom of a larger problem.
We should count the amount of protests gamers have started and ended shortly after
I was hardly even aware of this issue and wasn't unable to play any of my games. I only knew 1 guy who couldn't play his games and he reset his box and was fine.
The fact they kept copy/pasting the exact tweet multiple times and it still being wrong is just... mmmwuh, chef's kiss.
At least with PlayStation and Nintendo you can still play your physical and digital games (if you download it without deleting) even without the internet.
You say that but remember a few weeks ago there was that thing that happened with the date code on PlayStation, I think something happened with Nintendo also.
Nintendo sorta but PlayStation had a cmos patch
@@Oblithian the problem i saw with switch is that you must play games on your switch without a DRM error with the cloud saves there's a problem
@@basilplushie2534 You are wrong.
@@basilplushie2534 It is different. "Does It Play" have tested Switch, PlayStation and Xbox versions of games and the Switch and PlayStation had no DRM preventing you to play single player offline games. Xbox did so they get called out.
Imagine waiting to play a recently launched game and your console won't let you. Stay strong Xbox players, hope it's fixed for y'all soon
Imagine being someone like me who just bought 4-5 games a day ago and can't play a single one because apparently I don't own them. At 60+GB per game that's half my gaming library. Instead I'm told to sign in with the account that purchased it, meaning I just don't play Xbox instead I go touch grass. Lol
Imagine if the world was perfect and had no problems what so ever
I had this issue and it was fixed within a couple minutes. The time it took for me to download an update.
@@ODSTCodaith .the last time i bought a game was last year, state of decay 2. (i buy one like every year and never above 20 bucks)
for some reason, GFWL decided i done something illegal when i plugged in my steam controller and locked me out of the game entirely after i went past the refund window
then they had the nerve to ask me for details like my phone number in order to prove i was the legit owner of the account (which is stupid, since they never asked for that detail when i created it).
so i just went and got a pirated version, i already paid for it and i dont have to deal with shitty DRM
@@thefool8224 they've forced you down that path 😂
I was affected by this on PC. I couldn't play any of the games I bought on the Microsoft store. They all said I have to be connected to the internet to play.
It's why I have 150 hard copies of games . Showing time and time again digital has massive issues and always have hard copies in case.