How to Set-up a Hip Shot Tremsetter in your Stratocaster - Simple and Easy!
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- In this video, I'm going to show you a quick and easy way to set up a hip-shot Tremsetter, which was used in a lot of the Fender Strat Plus, Deluxe Strat Plus, and Ultra guitars in the 1990s.
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I didn't believe it could be that simple, especially after reading the instructions that came with my 1994 strat plus deluxe, as well as several pages that described the process of setting up the tremsetter, all over complicated.
And now my tremolo bridge is set up perfectly, for the first time in 30 years ! And it took me about 10 minutes. Back when I bought it I never managed to set it up properly so I "decked" the tremolo for the next 30 years... So thanks a lot for your video !
Well, this makes me happy! That was the reason I posted this. So many people read those instruction and then give up and pull the Tremsetter out. If set up right, they work well. And really I do not notice the lessing of spring ring - you know the ringing that comes from the springs in the back of the body. If you hit the body you can hear those ring!
Hey! Great video. I used to think I liked the Tremsetter then decided it just doesn’t give you that smooth range and clanks a bit at center. To each their own . Great explanation on this often overlooked device!
Mine doesn't clunk at all. Took me awhile to get it right though.
perfect and simple solution... thanks!
Hey man, I've got a 1987 LPB (probably LPB...) Plus arriving tomorrow. It's a birth year guitar, my favourite colour (probably 😛) and I'm so excited! It's actually been in a museum for the last 6 months, and a case for the 25 years prior... Actually, it does look a bit icy blue too....
Anyway - just wanted to say thanks for your page/resources/knowledge. It's been great learning! Appreciate it ✌️
When I saw 'Simple and Easy' I didn't bother watching because I needed an in-depth understanding of the tremsetter. So far, this video has answered more of my questions than any of the others. When you're applying pressure between the little spring, and the trem block 5:00, are you applying equal pressure? Like applying the same pressure on the trem block as the pressure to depress the little spring?
I have an 89 Strat plus and have never messed with the tremsetter, but trying to do a deep dive setup.
Thanks.
Hey glad this helped. I was purposely trying to stay away from too much detail because then it complicates the process. But when I squeeze the set screw, caller, and the end of the spring, the tensions the same on both ends because I'm just squeezing them together. Main thing is going from the the bridge to the deck from a quarter inch to 1/ 8th inch gap. On the back. What you need to be careful about is doing a deep dive set up when the trim set might be already set properly. So many people hate these things because they get messed up and then they don't work properly and so they get frustrated and pull them out. That's why I made this video so people can see a simple way to get these locked in properly.
@@xhefriguitars7946 Thanks for the quick reply. yeah I knew I did something wrong when my guitar was only slightly sharp of 430 hz after putting in the tremsetter, but it's staying in tune, playing better than ever. There's a lot of great detail in your video, and I appreciate it.
Hi, great video! Which strings are you using? .10s?
Does it make a difference for this Tremsetter setup procedure if I have .09s on my Strat?
Thanks, cheers, Ecco
I was using .09s in the video. This same technique would work for .10s as well. One might just have ti play with the screw adjustments a little. I should have stated that I was using .09s in the video. I did this off the cuff...
@@xhefriguitars7946 Thank you very much for the quick reply!
Thanks for this video!💯 6:19 “halfway from where the starting point was”?
Are you indicating compressing the block to 1/16” or 1/8” from the deck? I think a shim block would be a helpful tool in setting that preload spring tension btw.😇 This setting is critical!
Too much forward or backward angle on the saddles make for unstable tuning.
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Hey, Thanks for the post! Anyhow when it was de-tuned to 33hz the gap on the back of the bridge is 1/4 inch. The you pull the bridge down and then tightening the set screw on the Tremsetter, the bridge is about 1/8 inch from the deck. This is what I was meaning. So then that set screw is tighten, the bridge will be near perfect and the guitar will even be nearly spot on in tune at 440hz!
I have a pre-Tremsetter Strat Plus (1877/88) that didn’t come with one, and I’ve never really wanted one because it seems it puts a stopper on… I don’t think I’m going to put one in 35 years later but I’m going to read the comments cause I’m curious to know what playing is like with one.
My 87 Surf Green player does not have one and I wish it did. If I use the trem much it comes back sharp. The tremsetter really help solve this problem! But I don't want to destroy the originality of an 87!
@@xhefriguitars7946 the greatest temptation is for string-bend stability. But I know what you mean about keeping it original. I’ve never even taken the puckguard OR neck off because it’s been so stable, but I don’t know who built the guitar or if it was made in ‘87 or ‘88 (despite the shower tuners)!
Fantastic
Thanks Jeff 👏
Need to get together sometime!!
Everybody needs to see this!!!
I should have added this is for an a set-up for one that is already installed.
WHY because you can't adjust the spring tension on your guitar.
@@scottyjordan3036 no, I didn't cover the part of making sure there was a whole drill for the small rod and mounting the two spring hooks. It's a totally different set up than a typical Stratocaster spring attachment.
@@xhefriguitars7946 You shouldn't even need that thing. That's what a tuner and Phillips head is for. Trem lifts in tune- tighten screws retune ECT.
@@xhefriguitars7946 You can't set up a floyd so you're drilling HOLES !!!!!!!!
Great video of how to install the trendsetter, I hata 96 Strat plus with the Fender Floyd Rose mini bridge. A tremsetter can with the guitar 🎸 but not installed. The guitar plays perfect and since I bought it new in 96. The intonation has never gone out. What purpose does the trem setter serve? Should I install it?
Thanks
Once I got it right,it works very well.
Thank you!
Wow great unit.
@xhefriguitars7946 Great explanation! So awesome that you came up with this procedure! Can I assume if i am tuning my guitar to 1/2 step down (430 hz) that i will tune the guitar to 420 hz for the tremsetter pre-load? Thanks Jeff!
@@mikemaj8467 seems like it should work but not sure due to string tension being different…why are you tuning that way?
Sometimes I tune a guitar different to learn or play along with a song because the song was written and recorded with an alternate tuning. I will let you know if my hypothesis works. I'm assuming the 10 Hz difference required to set the preload is not linear as the tuning gets lower. My guess is that it will be less than 10 Hz for 1/2 step down. Thank you for your reply.
When you say, "1/8 inch from the deck," do you mean the bottom part of the bridge or the top part? Or neither?
The back bottom of the bridge to the surface of the body. That's generally how most Strats are set up from the factory. Also I am using .09s but the same technique would work with .10s
@@xhefriguitars7946 Thanks! And thanks for the simplified video! I had a hard time following the official Tremsetter vid.
What do you mean "when a guitar is properly tuned everything is at 440"? Each string is a different frequency and the top E(4) is 229.63 Hz. When you started to raise the bridge from the deck by loosening the screws, was the guitar initially tuned to standard tuning before you started?
My '95 Strat Plus is hard decked and I would like to re-install the hipshot. This video did not help.
If you have a guitar tuner with a meter on it you will see that the center of the meter is 440 hz. If you use a guitar tuners that has digital color then green is 440hz and red is either flat or sharp. In the video I am using a Korg tuner. See: cdn.korg.com/us/products/upload/6ca64a4f932ca71b9865ee77d28f389d_pc.jpg So when I say tune the guitar to 430hz, all the strings are about a step flat. Very easy video to follow if you have a guitar tuner that shows the 440 hz meter. You could even use a tuner that is a stomp box or built in to a guitar mutli-effect unit with a built in tuner. Just tune all the strings flat in the red about two or three LED lights. A perfectly tuned guitar, every string will be 440 hz.
@@xhefriguitars7946 OK. I understand what you are saying, just tune the guitar a few cents flat. Thanks, I'll give it a go.
As you probably know, there is no open string on the guitar that is 440Hz. The Korg tuner shows '440' because this is the reference pitch (pitch standard) that it is set to... 440 Hz for A4 which became the reference standard in western music in the late 1800's. Most good tuners will allow the user to adjust the reference pitch to whatever they choose.
Also, as you I'm sure you know, there is no such thing as a perfectly tuned fretted stringed instrument (even if the instrument is well intonated). In fact, it's undesirable for a fretted stringed instrument to be 'perfectly' tuned and intonated as this 'slightly off tuning' is part of what gives any given instrument it's characteristic sound. e.g. Telecasters with three brass saddles... some people hate them because they never sound in tune... but that's part of what gives them their characteristic sound!
@@peternigelproduction Glad you figured that out. I was going to try to explain the difference between universal pitch and individual string vibration, but it just gets complicated. Sounds like you Googled it. But yes, tune the guitar's pitch flat a step and then after doing what I explained it should already be close to dialed in at 440.
@@xhefriguitars7946 LOL.. I think just saying "tune each string a few cents flat" would have been clearer (at least to me). I didn't need to 'Google it' as I've been dabbling in music and with guitars for 45+ years! OMG... am I really that old :(
...also built a few acoustics over the last 10.
As you know, there is a Hipshot video out there with Dave Borisoff describing the process, but it's so old the quality is awful and he makes the whole process seem over complicated!
Thanks for the video anyway.
You've probably come across those folks who believe that 432 as the reference pitch is superior to 440? More 'healing' and 'meditative'... more consistent with the patterns of the Universe?
@@peternigelproduction Through my alien connections we are sure that 432 is the best reference pitch for the universe. If I could just get our keyboard player to change his keys we would be in good shape.... ;-) Maybe this is why Jimi Hendrix sometimes tuned his guitar down a step... but joking aside the reason I used 440 as a reference point is that it’s common on all meter tuners and the amazing thing is when you tune to 430 and then make this adjustment you’ll find that you’re almost perfectly in tune, and the trim setter set at the exact right setting.
Thanks. Why 430Hz instead of 440Hz??
You use 430 Hz to set the tremsetter’s tension. Final tuning is in 440Hz.
By tuning the guitar at 430Hz, that sets the tension in the trimsetter when you pull the bridge back with your fingers and tighten the hex screw. Like I mentioned in the video, after you do that, the guitar is in almost perfect tune at 440hz. This is the secret to getting that trimsetter to have the exact right tension with the strings.
Learn how to adjust your Floyd Rose people. It's NOT HARD. I had one of these 25 yrs ago. Theres enough vids now to learn how.
This video covers Fender tremolo bridges.
I bought and still have my 93 deluxe strat plus. It came with one of those and didn't last long. Anyone who designs a product with plastic threads is kind of a moron.
LOL! Like I said in the video, Some people love them and some people hate them. But as far as the nylon threaded parts affecting the guitar, the bridge is connected to the body by the brass wire. The springs and the threaded parts float to simply bring the bridge back to a neutral position. So I do not think the Tremsetter has much of a dampening affect on the tone of the guitar. Tone controls probably do more to dampen the tone than the Tremsetter. That's one reason I use no-load tone controls on my custom builds.
@@xhefriguitars7946 I may have been incorrectly adjusting mine. I was trying to follow the instruction booklet. But then the plastic threads gave way and stripped clean off. This was in 1993. It's still in the case. Can I get a new one without plastic parts?
@@barriem5318 from what i have seen they are all built exactly the same. Yes if you over tighten the big spring you could strip the threads on the nylon adjuster. So many people hate these because they simply are not set up properly.
@@barriem5318hipshot makes them .. $50. Google it
Argh! Im thinking of selling mine. Hahaha too complicated.
LOL!!! Really it is very simple. You would not want to sell your car because changing the oil is too complicated! Nice thing is, once the tremsetter is set up properly they really do help the guitar to stay in tune better especially when doing a lot of diving with the tremolo.