For those of you with a 7800X3D chip, make sure to check your BIOS!!! Motherboards have had issues with providing too much SOC voltage. This can cause premature chip degradation or catastrophic failure. All boards should have a BIOS update at this point to address this issue.
I upgraded to 7600 from I7 4790!! Same boat, Apex and Overwatch dropping to 110, now hit frame caps! Figure I may go to the 7600x at most then wait a gen or two. 8000x3d might be the ticket?
at higher resolutions, it doesnt seem worth it over the 7700x. i wonder what the difference is when running video cards that are mid level like a 7800xt or 4070ti.
Still not the best gaming performance CPU you can buy only if you take the average segments ! 7950x3d is faster and 13900ks with 7200 ddr5 is faster in 1440 p and 4K
Hey, PC Centric, why don't you make a video about the AMD CPUs blowing up and catching on fire fiasco, But I know why you won't because u are an AMD fanboy, but you are quick to make a video bashing intel, and their Q1 losses. PC Centric is a biased channel. UNSUBSCRIBE NOW!!!!!!!
@@lalicdalibor13677950x3d and 13900k are not better for gaming, they both literally get beaten by the 7800x3d via benchmarks. It has something to do with the 8 core setup which games prefer.
Bought the 7700X and MATX Gene board back in November thinking I would upgrade to the X3D chip later on. The uplift is not enough for me to do it. I’ll wait for the 8000 series I think.
Been looking at upgrading to 7800x3d from my Am4 platform with 5800x3d but at 4k theres no noticeable difference when using my 4080 so will wait for the next gen x3d chips 👍👍
The big gains with the x3D come from virtual reality under heavy loads. There is improvement in most games on the x3d lineup but it’s going to be aligned more to frame latency which is mostly noticed in vr applications.
@Thomas Shears it has to do with the limitations that were poorly implemented if you want to get a 7000 x3d chip give it a month and update the bios asap,
I annot find anny benchmarks about vr about the 5800x3d or this 7800x3d chip. Cos it seems every simracer wants a 5800x3d for iracing and ac. So wat is this frame latecncy doing exactly? And is it less noticeble then having a lower fps cap in vr cos u pull less frames?
I'm a 7600 guy all the way. Realistically, a 7600 performs near 5800x3d level and not too far off 7800x3d level. You could even buy one right now for $220 with a free 5200 16 gb ddr5 ram.
I have the same CPU, the only reason 5800X3d was great, was people with older CPUs like 1700X were able to get a substantial performance increase, by just swapping the CPU. This is not the case for 7000 if you ask me. 99% are better off with 7700x or lower, those %0.1 lows are also bullshit, a game like Jedi Survivor has stutter every now and then and no CPU can fix that.
I don't think this answer the fundamental question though. Is pairing a 7700X with a $800 GPU better than pairing a 7800X3D with a $700 GPU? There are instances where the 7800X3D will offer a benefit thanks to the 3D-Vcache, but in some games it doesn't. Whereas, having a faster GPU will give you a performance boost in all games all the time over a slower one.
My philosophy is to get the most you can in your budget towards CPU initially, since most games will be fine with either configuration, but having a more solid platform for the whole system allows you to do the leapfrog of 3 years, GPU upgrade, 3 years more CPU upgrade, GPU, CPU, GPU, CPU like that with more average performance over time that buying midrange systems whole cloth every 4-5 years. If $100-150 more on CPU allows you to stretch multiple more years out of it, you're saving money.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator i think it depends on what resolution you are aiming for 1080p maybe a stronger cpu, but 1440p and above the gpu becomes more important. So I’d take a faster gpu all day with a weaker cpu ( for gaming of course) because I aim for at least 1440p
I went for the 7600 plus a B650 Gaming X AX for £349. Planning to drop in a 7800X3D or 8800X3D once they have dropped in price. The 7600 is plenty right now for gaming.
I think that was a fail for the 7800x3D. Its cache after all doesn't make a big difference for the GPU utilization. A bit, sometimes, but overall the "bottleneck" is truly elsewhere (clock speed, architecture, etc). And many fps did not change, or they changed in a completely irrelevant way (like 143 to 176). A few of those differences might look cool (elsewhere there are none), they are pretty silly, useless differences, except for very specific monitor situations. The real differences can only be seen in something like 80 vs 110 fps. And for that, again, a smaller GPU would be a more practical benchmark choice to make a buying decision about as clear as it can be.
I would get the 7800X3D if it didn’t already have a 7700X. I play 4K with a 4080 so the gains aren’t enough to justify a whole new CPU. But if I do need another in the future it’ll be a 3D one.
I do have a 7700x and did upgrade to a 7800x3d. The improvement is obvious and still keeping the 7700x until the 8800x3d comes out. I like to have back up computer parts incase my main rig goes down. I also have multiple PCs in the house, mainly for my kids. Nice having the backups in case their computers take a dump.
@@christopherp.1391 my other 2 computers are AM4 so there’s not much backup I can get from them. Lol. And when I get my new TV I might end up changing, but right now I’m capped at 60Fps and can hit it pretty easily in most games I play.
Hey, PC Centric, why don't you make a video about the AMD CPUs blowing up and catching on fire fiasco, But I know why you won't because u are an AMD fanboy, but you are quick to make a video bashing intel, and their Q1 losses. PC Centric is a biased channel. UNSUBSCRIBE NOW!!!!!!!
@@christopherp.1391 The difference is not obvious at 4K at all. In fact it depends on what game your playing for the 7800x3d to even take the lead in performance. Not all games benefit greatly from extra cache. The majority of games just want high IPC and clock speeds.
Just wondering - do you miss not having a usb port on the case? I really like the design of it, but I want to be sure I won’t feel like I’m missing out.
Why does it look so choppy in animations? Seems like its running 20-30fps, is that just how DLSS make the games feel like, or is it because its not V-sync limited, motion blur on top of it, not running more than 60hz on the monitor? Is it because its not forced limited fps? Is that a Ryzen thing or what? I genuinely want to know why several hundreds of FPS looks like this in your setup.
Hi Bro, I am looking to buy/build a good budget-friendly PC My current budget amount is- 600-700$ Can you please suggest which build would be better? I am confused, about Intel or Ryzen. I am also looking for the latest motherboard & components that would support future upgrades for RAM, etc., and if I can install a good GPU on this same budget, that would be great. Please suggest some configurations for both Intel & AMD. It's a request and please reply. PC would be used for gaming & work Thanks & Regards
Can't remember all cpu options but for gpu it's 6600,6600xt, Intel Arc A750 or Intel Arc A770. If you can push further go $1000. Always the sweet spot for gaming pc builds. But if not then the gpu options above is best for the $600-$700 gaming pc
@Sir Wiggums im using ryzen 9 7900 non x its runs fine even in full load maximum temp reach only 70 degree c even in heavy load if you do PBO enable its hits only 90 degree... im using with my gigabyte b650 gaming x ax mobo with 32gb xpg lancer 6000mhz ram
@@SwingArmCity yes i agree its fault with only asus board that's why i avoided to buy asus board. Im using gigabyte b650 gaming x ax mobo with my ryzen 9 7900
CPU is good no doubt. But i totally agree with that nonsense "future proofing" statement. Over many years in PC gaming i learned - never buy anything for "future proofing", don't lie to yourself, because probably you will upgrade the whole system anyways in the future.
Just got a 4070ti for £650 and now I'm wondering what CPU to buy for this. Would a 7600x be enough for that as these are only £200 when the 7800x3d is £360. I've heard so much about the 3d v cache being amazing especially for 1% lows but not sure if its worth it for me.
I feel that budget PC builders perhaps need to settle on being "old tech, but stable tech" more than "leading edge tech, but f'ing expensive tech which will be out of date in 12 months and was a total money-dump" tech. Being a cheap-skate PC person is to be a practical PC person. If you can pish it away and not worry, well, good for you.
@Balan Costel 6700xt way more ram, and faster, and around the same price. You can watch a ton of videos, these fanboys are weird! More milage for your dollar.
Great man, can you share or build a PC with the highest quality of every part [inclusive of best largest monitor available] without regards to cost? I mean maximum possible capacity gaming desktop for architects with up to 128GB (or more) of RAM.
I'm trying build my first pc and still cant decide which one for me I'm planning on getting a "AMD Radeon RX 7600 XT Steel Legend Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB " graphics card which would you recommend me to go with? any feed back would be much appreciated (:
Love your energy 💪🔋PC Centric 🤯🥳 keep up the great content and energy in your uploads 🥰.Currently using a 7950X3D for both gaming and light production work (getting my feet wet learning DaVinci Resolve atm☺). Looking at setting up 2 bios profiles …. 1x 3D-Cache die active only for gaming and 1x both CCDs active for production work.
ha bro love from india south - bro 7800x3d or 7900x plz tell which one is best for me, or any suggestions - this cpu for only streaming gaming all for youtube maybe premiere pro photoshop thats all
I have a rx6800, 16gb ddr4 ram, and r5 5600x. What fps should i be getting on games like minecraft and halo infinite at 1440p/1080p settings? How do i get them max fps out of my setup?
Got my 7700x, with x670e mobo, and 32 of DDR5 6000 RAM for $500 USD (Newegg deal). The slight performance gain from the 7800x3D isn't worth the build cost considering I got my cpu, mobo, and ram for essentially the same price as just the 3D chip. Very happy with my current rig (7900XT for the GPU). Will more than likely upgrade the CPU to the last 3D chip made for AM5 and leave it at that for a while, with maybe a GPU upgrade in 3-4 years.
literally looking at the same bundle but from microcenter. They offer a 7700x, 32gb ddr5 6000 and msi b650 for $450 or 7900x, 32gb ddr5 6000 and asus b650 for $550. Is the 7900x worth the extra $100?
@@Itzplop if you’re just gaming, then no. If you do more than game, yes. Depends on your use case. I game and consume content only on mine and it’s been killer for me. Especially since I upgrading from a aged i7 8700k.
@@mathewstewart1692 I definitely plan on doing some editing via davinchi resolve which is why i was considering it to begin with. I heard the chiplet design in AMD is why the 7700x is better in terms of gaming because of the 2 6core cpu working in parallel (7900x) vs. the 1 8core cpu in the 7700x. But considering I want to do both gaming and some workflow stuff like editing then maybe its worth? Then again it is just a hobby so maybe the 7700x is just fine for now and I can always upgrade later down the road. Coming from a 1060 3gb and intel i5-6600k
@@Itzplop I mean it isn’t like the 7700x is going to be terrible at editing. It’s still a great CPU. It sounds like you could save yourself $100 and put that elsewhere into your rig, or just save the money period. That’s probably what I would do in your situation.
@@mathewstewart1692 yea I definitely think saving the $100 is probably a good idea, now just gotta figure out which gpu I wanna put with it. I plan on doing some streaming too
@@thomasebbs8506 any bottlnecking with this build? witch resolution do you play games i have 2560x1080 :/ i think i may have bottlneck in this resolution.....
The CPUs serve GPUs to a very similar degree. It's more that the 7800x3D can crank out more (often useless) frames in games with extra CPU-demand (by somehow striking a better balance thanks to cache).
Don't understand the upscaling at 1440p. That will skew results to the X3D as that CPU will give you better 1080p results which you should never run on a 4090.
@@PcCentric While that may be true. To the CPU it is the same as running the game at 1080p and then the GPU upscales it. Therefore, for a CPU test it should not be used.
My concerns have been addressed, I will stick with my Ryzen 7 7700. I can satisfactorily play DOOM 2016 and all older versions of DOOM 3. Thanks for the nice show.
Any suggestions on the best gpu to get for my build not including 4090😅 I was thinking of getting the rx 7900 xtx? My build: Motherboard = asrock x670e steel legend CPU = ryzen 7700x Ram = g skill tridents z5 rgb ddr5 (32gb) Gpu = powercolor rx 6700xt hellhound white Psu = v850 Monitor = gigabyte 31.5 inch curved va 1500r 4k uhd (3840x2160) 144hz (160oc). 1ms freesync premium pro gaming monitor.
Dude, its interesting to watch you. BUT! Where is full PC specification in any your video? What is your monitor parameters? What are graphics card parameters? All your videos are without PC specification. WTF? Is it hard to list them in the beginning?
I need help !! I’m trying to build my first pc I got a 7800x3d and a X670E-A asus rog motherboard and i don’t know if I have to update bios on the motherboard before I build it ? Or I build it than update bios ? I don’t want to pay someone $300 to build it and I end up not learning nothing I’m trying to do it my self but don’t want to mess it up don’t even know how I gotta set up my bios so I won’t f it up
i just stuck in the 7800x3d with a new mob and 6000 mhz of ram pared with a 3070ti waiting out on the 5070 at most and im happy im playing star citizen at such good frame rates, peace at mind now that i dont need to worry about anything in my system apart from the case and gpu !!its a freaking good feeling haha !!
I'm new to building computers but I want to know I currently have the ryzen 5 5600x with a asus tuff b550plus motherboard and I was looking at the ryzen 7 7700x with the asus tuf b650 plus I was wondering if that's a good upgrade and my gpu is 4070ti
I do have the 7800X3D around 2 weeks now, amazed with the performance already BUT I see temps around 45-50 even in idle, and 55-60 inside the games. I have Corsair H150i Elite 360mm AiO and 5 intake 4 exhaust total of 9 fans, just repasted the cooler but only 2-3 degrees dropped. What might be the reason to run this hot? Is this the case for everyone? Thanks guys.
Shouldn't you be doing cpu benchmarks at 1080p to remove gpu bottlenecks? when you test at 4k the gpu is doing most of the work here and DLSS is lowering the resolution too.......
*VIDEO CARD 4090: MSI SUPRIM Liquid X is Best. No saggy weight to worry about later and it is an OC'ING BEAST!!!!! So quiet and so cool running and tiny in size compared to the rest of the cards... it's like half the size!!!! A Marvel of a 4090 Card!!!!! *MOTHERBOARD: GIGYBYTE'S AORUS X670E EXTREME. *If you opt for m2 expansion card (The offering of other boards supplied m2 expansion card or more than 1 slot on board = Extreme has just one slot) to put m2's in keep in mind, it will drop the x16 slot of the video card to x8 and turn the gen 4 output into gen 3 and reduce a lot of the power (FPS) of the 4090. GIGYBYTE EXTREME has just one slot on that motherboard for a reason, to keep the card at its x16 gen 4 speed meaning, a 4090 will sit there on the board or next gen card. People will put m2 cards in slot 2 Video card in slot 1 (of other motherboards) and not know they just lost FPS by reducing their cards performance by the reduction from x16 to x8. *GIGYBYTE added more M2 Slots where PCI slot would be WHICH IS SMART = MOST OUTPUT FROM THE VIDEO CARD AKA 4K GAMING AND UP TO THE OWNER BABY!!!! *THEY Stop an Owner from making that mistake by taking away the problem and giving more slots to put m2's in w/o PCI expansion card being used.
I have the same question. But I think I’m going to go with the regular 7700 without the X boost. The lower wattage at 65W is just what I want. I’ll hold off on the X3D until the next evolution of AM5 sometime in 2025 or 2026.
I’m building a new pc and I don’t know which one to go for I paid 360 for the 7700x or I can pay 375 for the 7800x3D (I already ordered the 7700x so someone tell me if I should cancel and go 7800x3D PLEASE!!!)
is 1.25 a good safe soc. my asus mb had the value set at 1.28 but i think gamers nexus said real testing was much higher. anyway 1.25 seems stable but im just guessing at a value.
For those of you with a 7800X3D chip, make sure to check your BIOS!!! Motherboards have had issues with providing too much SOC voltage. This can cause premature chip degradation or catastrophic failure. All boards should have a BIOS update at this point to address this issue.
Motherboards? Don't be so vague. Its mainly the ASUS boards that cause the problem.
@@SwingArmCity and gigabyte, there was one with gigabyte
@Deez ol' better safe than sorry
@@SwingArmCity gigabyte also
@@SwingArmCity all partners to my knowledge have released a BIOS update. I was vague for a reason.
I’m actually surprised the performance uplift wasn’t greater. Guess I’ll hold on to my 7700x. Thanks for the testing.
Not every game greatly benefits from the extra cache. It’s a very specific use case product.
I get the same results with my 7700x as he does here with the 7800X3D, cl30 memory
exactly, veird review
@@hayche1986 he’s using a capture card so he’s going to have slightly worse performance then normal
@siddiqueintesar1992 the cheaper one you find, also if you just game, 8core is overkill
I upgraded to the 7800X3D from a 4770K so I'm in awestruck how much my 4080 performance increased. I went from like 110 fps in Overwatch to 300.
That's what tends to happen when you upgrade a 10 year old CPU. Any of the latest CPUs would have given you that "wow" factor
Good for you man
Woah nah that’s a major issue 🤣😭 I had a r5 5600x and I felt the cpu bottle neck I upgraded to am5 now and its much better
I upgraded to
7600 from I7 4790!!
Same boat, Apex and Overwatch dropping to 110, now hit frame caps!
Figure I may go to the 7600x at most then wait a gen or two.
8000x3d might be the ticket?
@@eduardomaldonado5793 Their new cpu is literally AM5 too tho
at higher resolutions, it doesnt seem worth it over the 7700x. i wonder what the difference is when running video cards that are mid level like a 7800xt or 4070ti.
I know the 7800x3d is the best gaming CPU you can buy, but I would opt for the R7 7700 non x for AM5. The 7700 is still plenty fast for gaming.
Still not the best gaming performance CPU you can buy only if you take the average segments ! 7950x3d is faster and 13900ks with 7200 ddr5 is faster in 1440 p and 4K
Hey, PC Centric, why don't you make a video about the AMD CPUs blowing up and catching on fire fiasco,
But I know why you won't because u are an AMD fanboy, but you are quick to make a video bashing intel, and their Q1 losses.
PC Centric is a biased channel.
UNSUBSCRIBE NOW!!!!!!!
@@lalicdalibor1367 believe what you want to believe, doesn't make it true.
@@SwingArmCity But it is true though. 🤷
@@lalicdalibor13677950x3d and 13900k are not better for gaming, they both literally get beaten by the 7800x3d via benchmarks. It has something to do with the 8 core setup which games prefer.
Bought the 7700X and MATX Gene board back in November thinking I would upgrade to the X3D chip later on. The uplift is not enough for me to do it. I’ll wait for the 8000 series I think.
What's your GPU?
@@jswizzy629 I have quite a few so I swap around. It’s currently with a 3080 in the Jonsbo D31 white case with front LCD.
I like it when you put the product info and price in the bottom left as you go over them.
Been looking at upgrading to 7800x3d from my Am4 platform with 5800x3d but at 4k theres no noticeable difference when using my 4080 so will wait for the next gen x3d chips 👍👍
How about 1k or 2k?
@@jodiepalmer2404 I dont play at them resolutions so it wont affect my decision
The big gains with the x3D come from virtual reality under heavy loads. There is improvement in most games on the x3d lineup but it’s going to be aligned more to frame latency which is mostly noticed in vr applications.
@Thomas Shears it has to do with the limitations that were poorly implemented if you want to get a 7000 x3d chip give it a month and update the bios asap,
I annot find anny benchmarks about vr about the 5800x3d or this 7800x3d chip. Cos it seems every simracer wants a 5800x3d for iracing and ac. So wat is this frame latecncy doing exactly? And is it less noticeble then having a lower fps cap in vr cos u pull less frames?
I'm a 7600 guy all the way. Realistically, a 7600 performs near 5800x3d level and not too far off 7800x3d level. You could even buy one right now for $220 with a free 5200 16 gb ddr5 ram.
Agreed, I got one in a motherboard bundle. Great value.
@@redrock425 That's great too. It was either that or the ram. I wanted to wait until the motherboard prices becomes viablle
I have the same CPU, the only reason 5800X3d was great, was people with older CPUs like 1700X were able to get a substantial performance increase, by just swapping the CPU. This is not the case for 7000 if you ask me. 99% are better off with 7700x or lower, those %0.1 lows are also bullshit, a game like Jedi Survivor has stutter every now and then and no CPU can fix that.
@@redrock425where did you buy the bundle?
link?
I don't think this answer the fundamental question though. Is pairing a 7700X with a $800 GPU better than pairing a 7800X3D with a $700 GPU? There are instances where the 7800X3D will offer a benefit thanks to the 3D-Vcache, but in some games it doesn't. Whereas, having a faster GPU will give you a performance boost in all games all the time over a slower one.
My philosophy is to get the most you can in your budget towards CPU initially, since most games will be fine with either configuration, but having a more solid platform for the whole system allows you to do the leapfrog of 3 years, GPU upgrade, 3 years more CPU upgrade, GPU, CPU, GPU, CPU like that with more average performance over time that buying midrange systems whole cloth every 4-5 years. If $100-150 more on CPU allows you to stretch multiple more years out of it, you're saving money.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator i think it depends on what resolution you are aiming for 1080p maybe a stronger cpu, but 1440p and above the gpu becomes more important. So I’d take a faster gpu all day with a weaker cpu ( for gaming of course) because I aim for at least 1440p
How would this build handle streaming and content creation with the 7700x?
I went for the 7600 plus a B650 Gaming X AX for £349. Planning to drop in a 7800X3D or 8800X3D once they have dropped in price. The 7600 is plenty right now for gaming.
The 8800X3D is not even out yet Spartacus.
@@ZackSNetwork Man you are really smart aren't you?
@@Dreamz664 he is a very special individual indeed
Hi upgraded from 7600 to 7800X3D now, waiting 2 years for 100£ discount ain't worth it for me.
Will 7600 bottleneck 4090
Love your video’s!! Very informative and fun too!! What’s your opinion on the AMD and ASUS dust up? Should we go with another motherboard?
I think that was a fail for the 7800x3D. Its cache after all doesn't make a big difference for the GPU utilization. A bit, sometimes, but overall the "bottleneck" is truly elsewhere (clock speed, architecture, etc). And many fps did not change, or they changed in a completely irrelevant way (like 143 to 176). A few of those differences might look cool (elsewhere there are none), they are pretty silly, useless differences, except for very specific monitor situations. The real differences can only be seen in something like 80 vs 110 fps. And for that, again, a smaller GPU would be a more practical benchmark choice to make a buying decision about as clear as it can be.
Love your vids, you're the reason im building my pc in 2 days. Thanks pc centric
what gains??? Just a few percents for a lot more money
I would get the 7800X3D if it didn’t already have a 7700X. I play 4K with a 4080 so the gains aren’t enough to justify a whole new CPU. But if I do need another in the future it’ll be a 3D one.
I do have a 7700x and did upgrade to a 7800x3d. The improvement is obvious and still keeping the 7700x until the 8800x3d comes out. I like to have back up computer parts incase my main rig goes down. I also have multiple PCs in the house, mainly for my kids. Nice having the backups in case their computers take a dump.
@@christopherp.1391 my other 2 computers are AM4 so there’s not much backup I can get from them. Lol. And when I get my new TV I might end up changing, but right now I’m capped at 60Fps and can hit it pretty easily in most games I play.
Hey, PC Centric, why don't you make a video about the AMD CPUs blowing up and catching on fire fiasco,
But I know why you won't because u are an AMD fanboy, but you are quick to make a video bashing intel, and their Q1 losses.
PC Centric is a biased channel.
UNSUBSCRIBE NOW!!!!!!!
@@christopherp.1391 The difference is not obvious at 4K at all. In fact it depends on what game your playing for the 7800x3d to even take the lead in performance. Not all games benefit greatly from extra cache. The majority of games just want high IPC and clock speeds.
@@anthonyholmes5965 That sucks man you have such an amazing PC and the bottleneck is your old garbage TV your using as a monitor.
Im thinking bout getting 7700x with 4070 super will this be good
Yes to keep it short.
Bro what do you do with all the products you get. Do you have a store or site??
Just wondering - do you miss not having a usb port on the case? I really like the design of it, but I want to be sure I won’t feel like I’m missing out.
Were there any fires started during testing?
I'm so glad you cover this. Was wondering the same thing🎉
Should i get the 7700 paired with 7800xt ? Or should i stick with ryzen 5 7600x.
Why does it look so choppy in animations? Seems like its running 20-30fps, is that just how DLSS make the games feel like, or is it because its not V-sync limited, motion blur on top of it, not running more than 60hz on the monitor? Is it because its not forced limited fps?
Is that a Ryzen thing or what?
I genuinely want to know why several hundreds of FPS looks like this in your setup.
I bought the 7700 x back in January when I upgraded my machine I'm not going to change. But it's good to know there's not that big a difference
Hi Bro,
I am looking to buy/build a good budget-friendly PC
My current budget amount is- 600-700$
Can you please suggest which build would be better? I am confused, about Intel or Ryzen.
I am also looking for the latest motherboard & components that would support future upgrades for RAM, etc., and if I can install a good GPU on this same budget, that would be great.
Please suggest some configurations for both Intel & AMD. It's a request and please reply.
PC would be used for gaming & work
Thanks & Regards
Save till u got 1000 dollars or buy a console
5600 with the 6700xt GPU. excellent combo. under $1000.
Can't remember all cpu options but for gpu it's 6600,6600xt, Intel Arc A750 or Intel Arc A770.
If you can push further go $1000. Always the sweet spot for gaming pc builds. But if not then the gpu options above is best for the $600-$700 gaming pc
is your pc setup you have in your amazon link good for both streaming and gaming cause i wanna get one but i don’t know much about pcs
Ordering my X3D very soon, so excited.
BEWARE!! when using these chips make sure to have the latest bios as they have been dying due to voltage issues!!!
@Sir Wiggums just make sure bios is the latest version and check the soc voltage is not above 1.3v
@@sirwiggums No
Stop being so vague. ASUS AM5 boards are the main culprit with the 7800x3d. No need to cause wide spread psnic.
@Sir Wiggums im using ryzen 9 7900 non x its runs fine even in full load maximum temp reach only 70 degree c even in heavy load if you do PBO enable its hits only 90 degree...
im using with my gigabyte b650 gaming x ax mobo with 32gb xpg lancer 6000mhz ram
@@SwingArmCity yes i agree its fault with only asus board that's why i avoided to buy asus board. Im using gigabyte b650 gaming x ax mobo with my ryzen 9 7900
I picked up a 7800X3D @ $349 for a 1440p build. Absolutely worth the upgrade at that price!
CPU is good no doubt. But i totally agree with that nonsense "future proofing" statement. Over many years in PC gaming i learned - never buy anything for "future proofing", don't lie to yourself, because probably you will upgrade the whole system anyways in the future.
7700,FE 4080,gdkill ddr5 ..6000..b650 tomahawk …SOC bios updated
Just got a 4070ti for £650 and now I'm wondering what CPU to buy for this. Would a 7600x be enough for that as these are only £200 when the 7800x3d is £360. I've heard so much about the 3d v cache being amazing especially for 1% lows but not sure if its worth it for me.
I got a 4070ti myself, I can really recommend you the r7 7700x, in my opinion the best trade between price and performance in 1440p
are you using afterburner or is it another software?
FYI using Reflex usually helps get some of that latency down
Upgrading from an intel core i7-6700 to a Ryzen 7 7700x. Is this an upgrade or not?
its a 3x raw performance and double the fps with fps games even with like a 3070 or 3080
I bought 5800x3d much cheaper and safer option. All great tho
as someone with an 8700k and 4070 ti the upgrade is tempting lmao
Are any of these CPU’s worth getting if I only have a 3070 ti? Current cpu is a i5
Yeah definitiely! I'd go for the 7700x in that case. Maybe even a 7600x
I feel that budget PC builders perhaps need to settle on being "old tech, but stable tech" more than "leading edge tech, but f'ing expensive tech which will be out of date in 12 months and was a total money-dump" tech. Being a cheap-skate PC person is to be a practical PC person. If you can pish it away and not worry, well, good for you.
7800x3D Raedon 7900XTX RoG Strix X670E-E Corsair RGB 64G 6000MHz CL 36 Ram
My Pc Build and i love it
Hi Great video but i want to ask u is the rtx 3060 still worth it for 1080p gaming in 2023
go amd instead 6700xt or 6600xt cheaper and better
@@davebrush7591 thanks man im a newbie at pcs but i heard nvidia is better than amd is this real or just fanboys?
@Balan Costel 6700xt way more ram, and faster, and around the same price. You can watch a ton of videos, these fanboys are weird! More milage for your dollar.
@@marvel764 do u think i can build a pc with 6700xt and a cpu with similar performence as the 15 12400 or better for 1000 dollars?
@Sir Wiggums oh uh gaming and i had a prebuild in mind with i5 12400 and 3060 do u think i can build a better one for the same price (1000 dollars)
I got the 7800X3D for my PC. Should be getting it in the next few days. Looking forward to it.
Great man, can you share or build a PC with the highest quality of every part [inclusive of best largest monitor available] without regards to cost? I mean maximum possible capacity gaming desktop for architects with up to 128GB (or more) of RAM.
I'm trying build my first pc and still cant decide which one for me I'm planning on getting a
"AMD Radeon RX 7600 XT Steel Legend Overclocked Triple Fan 16GB " graphics card which would you recommend me to go with? any feed back would be much appreciated (:
7600/7600x/7700 is more than enough for your graphics card, and the money you save now you can use in later years for more newer upgraded cpu
Would a Radeon RX 7800 XT be a good GPU to pair with the 7800x3D ?
Are there any non gaming tests? I work on my pc too.
Ive got a r7 7700x with a 4070ti and its a beast !
should I keep my 9600kf and buy a 4080 or just keep saving for a whole new system with a r7 7700x? Im aware I will be limited to PCIe 3 gen
Love your energy 💪🔋PC Centric 🤯🥳 keep up the great content and energy in your uploads 🥰.Currently using a 7950X3D for both gaming and light production work (getting my feet wet learning DaVinci Resolve atm☺). Looking at setting up 2 bios profiles …. 1x 3D-Cache die active only for gaming and 1x both CCDs active for production work.
What monitor is being used in the video ?
is the 7800X3D also better in applications like SolidWorks?
ha bro love from india south - bro 7800x3d or 7900x plz tell which one is best for me, or any suggestions - this cpu for only streaming gaming all for youtube maybe premiere pro photoshop thats all
Which aio were you using for this build
I have a rx6800, 16gb ddr4 ram, and r5 5600x. What fps should i be getting on games like minecraft and halo infinite at 1440p/1080p settings? How do i get them max fps out of my setup?
I got the 7 7800x 3D after watching your videos and thanks loving it good choice for my first build.
Hey what motherboard should I buy for 7 7700x?
Got my 7700x, with x670e mobo, and 32 of DDR5 6000 RAM for $500 USD (Newegg deal). The slight performance gain from the 7800x3D isn't worth the build cost considering I got my cpu, mobo, and ram for essentially the same price as just the 3D chip. Very happy with my current rig (7900XT for the GPU). Will more than likely upgrade the CPU to the last 3D chip made for AM5 and leave it at that for a while, with maybe a GPU upgrade in 3-4 years.
literally looking at the same bundle but from microcenter. They offer a 7700x, 32gb ddr5 6000 and msi b650 for $450 or 7900x, 32gb ddr5 6000 and asus b650 for $550. Is the 7900x worth the extra $100?
@@Itzplop if you’re just gaming, then no. If you do more than game, yes. Depends on your use case. I game and consume content only on mine and it’s been killer for me. Especially since I upgrading from a aged i7 8700k.
@@mathewstewart1692 I definitely plan on doing some editing via davinchi resolve which is why i was considering it to begin with. I heard the chiplet design in AMD is why the 7700x is better in terms of gaming because of the 2 6core cpu working in parallel (7900x) vs. the 1 8core cpu in the 7700x. But considering I want to do both gaming and some workflow stuff like editing then maybe its worth? Then again it is just a hobby so maybe the 7700x is just fine for now and I can always upgrade later down the road. Coming from a 1060 3gb and intel i5-6600k
@@Itzplop I mean it isn’t like the 7700x is going to be terrible at editing. It’s still a great CPU. It sounds like you could save yourself $100 and put that elsewhere into your rig, or just save the money period. That’s probably what I would do in your situation.
@@mathewstewart1692 yea I definitely think saving the $100 is probably a good idea, now just gotta figure out which gpu I wanna put with it. I plan on doing some streaming too
My 7800x3d arrived today cant wait to install it 🎉
Remember to update your bios 👍
Im getting the 7700x with the 4070 Ti 💪🏼
me too 😊
2more days to wait...
@@VeNoM62500 ayyy nice bro, its definitely worth it mate!
@@thomasebbs8506 any bottlnecking with this build? witch resolution do you play games i have 2560x1080 :/ i think i may have bottlneck in this resolution.....
For gaming the 3D chip is good especially if you have a fast GPU but if you are a content creator and light streamer get the non 3D variants
The CPUs serve GPUs to a very similar degree. It's more that the 7800x3D can crank out more (often useless) frames in games with extra CPU-demand (by somehow striking a better balance thanks to cache).
How are the fans on that case are they loud?
I'm guess a well tuned 7700x boosting at 5.7GHz kinda makes the 7800x3d pointless ?
Don't understand the upscaling at 1440p. That will skew results to the X3D as that CPU will give you better 1080p results which you should never run on a 4090.
There's no reason not to use DLSS quality, it's free FPS and the quality is indistinguishable at 1440 and 4k
@@PcCentric While that may be true. To the CPU it is the same as running the game at 1080p and then the GPU upscales it. Therefore, for a CPU test it should not be used.
@@PcCentricdlss quality is very noticeable even at 4k.
My concerns have been addressed, I will stick with my Ryzen 7 7700. I can satisfactorily play DOOM 2016 and all older versions of DOOM 3. Thanks for the nice show.
Did the cpu catch fire ?
So i cant decide between 7700x and 7800x3d, but the rig will have 7900 xt
Any thoughts?
7800x3d, your graphics card is strong and could take advantage of the "horsepower" of this CPU.
The question is: Which one will set on fire your system faster? irony...
Any suggestions on the best gpu to get for my build not including 4090😅 I was thinking of getting the rx 7900 xtx?
My build:
Motherboard = asrock x670e steel legend
CPU = ryzen 7700x
Ram = g skill tridents z5 rgb ddr5 (32gb)
Gpu = powercolor rx 6700xt hellhound white
Psu = v850
Monitor = gigabyte 31.5 inch curved va 1500r 4k uhd (3840x2160) 144hz (160oc). 1ms freesync premium pro gaming monitor.
What monitor is this ?
Need a sugar guardian to give me a gaming PC. 😅😂
Dude, its interesting to watch you. BUT! Where is full PC specification in any your video? What is your monitor parameters? What are graphics card parameters?
All your videos are without PC specification. WTF? Is it hard to list them in the beginning?
poor little karen
is that a fractal pop air case? is it any good for ''high end'' builds? eg big gpus like a 4080/7900xtx
I believe it is yes
I need help !! I’m trying to build my first pc I got a 7800x3d and a X670E-A asus rog motherboard and i don’t know if I have to update bios on the motherboard before I build it ? Or I build it than update bios ? I don’t want to pay someone $300 to build it and I end up not learning nothing I’m trying to do it my self but don’t want to mess it up don’t even know how I gotta set up my bios so I won’t f it up
i just stuck in the 7800x3d with a new mob and 6000 mhz of ram pared with a 3070ti waiting out on the 5070 at most and im happy im playing star citizen at such good frame rates, peace at mind now that i dont need to worry about anything in my system apart from the case and gpu !!its a freaking good feeling haha !!
Nice comparison!
I'm new to this so can u show a full install with a capture card
I'm new to building computers but I want to know I currently have the ryzen 5 5600x with a asus tuff b550plus motherboard and I was looking at the ryzen 7 7700x with the asus tuf b650 plus I was wondering if that's a good upgrade and my gpu is 4070ti
Which processor would be better pairing with RTX 4070 ti 12GB for gaming?
Me personally would get the 7700x just cuz I like matching 7s and numbers but the 7800x3d is the better gaming cpu
I do have the 7800X3D around 2 weeks now, amazed with the performance already BUT I see temps around 45-50 even in idle, and 55-60 inside the games. I have Corsair H150i Elite 360mm AiO and 5 intake 4 exhaust total of 9 fans, just repasted the cooler but only 2-3 degrees dropped. What might be the reason to run this hot? Is this the case for everyone? Thanks guys.
GPU? i have the same AiO and less fans and i do not run that hot.
@@trkav2634 RTX 4080 but don't think GPU would effect when idle, than I have a problem specific for me with motherboard, bios etc.
Same temps for me using the aio h150i as exhaust on 7800x3D and 6 fans intake on corsair 5000D airflow.. 50c on idle
has to be airflow issue, my power hungry 5900x idles at like 35C on air cooling.. and even a little lower if it sits overnight..
Amd CPU’s just stuck at being idle
Shouldn't you be doing cpu benchmarks at 1080p to remove gpu bottlenecks? when you test at 4k the gpu is doing most of the work here and DLSS is lowering the resolution too.......
No, because gaming at 1080 with a 4090 would be silly and unrealistic. This is real world testing
ddr5 6000 cl30 expo is cheap now in my opinion, got mine for £130, overclocks to 6000cl28 and tight timings too
so what is the best 4090 (not as loud) and best motherboard to go with the 7800x3d ?
*VIDEO CARD 4090: MSI SUPRIM Liquid X is Best.
No saggy weight to worry about later and it is an OC'ING BEAST!!!!!
So quiet and so cool running and tiny in size compared to the rest of the cards... it's like half the size!!!!
A Marvel of a 4090 Card!!!!!
*MOTHERBOARD: GIGYBYTE'S AORUS X670E EXTREME.
*If you opt for m2 expansion card (The offering of other boards supplied m2 expansion card or more than 1 slot on board = Extreme has just one slot) to put m2's in keep in mind, it will drop the x16 slot of the video card to x8 and turn the gen 4 output into gen 3 and reduce a lot of the power (FPS) of the 4090.
GIGYBYTE EXTREME has just one slot on that motherboard for a reason, to keep the card at its x16 gen 4 speed meaning, a 4090 will sit there on the board or next gen card.
People will put m2 cards in slot 2 Video card in slot 1 (of other motherboards) and not know they just lost FPS by reducing their cards performance by the reduction from x16 to x8.
*GIGYBYTE added more M2 Slots where PCI slot would be WHICH IS SMART = MOST OUTPUT FROM THE VIDEO CARD AKA 4K GAMING AND UP TO THE OWNER BABY!!!!
*THEY Stop an Owner from making that mistake by taking away the problem and giving more slots to put m2's in w/o PCI expansion card being used.
As of typing out this comment, the x3d is $380 and the 7700x is $350. Is it worth it to get the x3d or just save the $30 and just get the 7700x?
I have the same question. But I think I’m going to go with the regular 7700 without the X boost. The lower wattage at 65W is just what I want. I’ll hold off on the X3D until the next evolution of AM5 sometime in 2025 or 2026.
650 watt enough for rtx 3060ti & i3 12f ?
sure is.
@@SwingArmCity asus oc rtx 3060 ti?
Did you mention the resolution?
You did mention the resolution… later.
Hear me out 7800x3D vs ryzen 9 7900x because the 7900x is still cheaper but you get more cores and threads, what's better value wise?
Depends, if you actually need more cores than get a CPU with more cores
dont make this mistake and get the 7900x, I did the same and thought 5900x was better value then the 5800x3d oh boy was i wrong..
I’m building a new pc and I don’t know which one to go for I paid 360 for the 7700x or I can pay 375 for the 7800x3D (I already ordered the 7700x so someone tell me if I should cancel and go 7800x3D PLEASE!!!)
As a user of 4K monitors, I think the 7700X is more cost-effective.
Which one? the one the NH-L12S can handle in itx case so 7700x
Would a 4070 + 7700x bottleneck??
In some games you can see the grapics cards is not fully utilized.
With returnal you was fighting a heavy intense npc. No npc fight means more fps
is 1.25 a good safe soc. my asus mb had the value set at 1.28 but i think gamers nexus said real testing was much higher. anyway 1.25 seems stable but im just guessing at a value.
What is a good budget (used) graphics card for Ryzen 5 3600?
Cheap and used 5700xt or 1660ti. More modern options, then the 6600xt or 3060. I'd go for a used 5700xt, probs your best bang for the buck.
So i shouldnt update my bios when its a thunder storm outside?
A 5800X3D can run the 4090 just as good as these.
December 2023, the price difference is down to $10 to $20
What’s best cpu for 4090 fe . I want lowest cpu
The one that doesn't explode...