GENGHIS TRON Dream Weapon Composer Reaction and Song Breakdown
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Ten Years ago I bought Genghis Tron "Board Up The House" and became a fan. It was like an industrial electronic version of Dillinger Escape Plan. It was intense. When Dream Weapon released, i instantly fell in love with the synthy progish rock sound. The new drummer is sick. The new vocalist appeals to "older me" than the old screamo vocals. The album starts heavy and slowly becomes more relaxed and it kicks. Love it when a band returns older and wiser. The 10 min track "Ritual Circle" is the highlight for me.
The new album really hits those same vibes usually only the band TORCHE could hit...
@@camw621 i haven't heard them before, i'll check it out
Ritual Circle is AMAZING
This!
The really interesting thing is that Dream Weapon isn't THAT much of a departure. The guitar melody in the chorus is very similar to Board Up the House's title track, but the rest of it is closer to their previous album's final track 'Relief'. I'm sure that's intentional: The guitar is telling you it's the same band, but they're progressing from the _last_ thing you heard from them, not the first.
Board Up The House was sick. "Things Don't Look Good" and "I Won't Come Back Alive" were damn bangers. Haven't listened to the new one yet, but this is really different.
This new one is a huge departure but it’s so good! And I think that’s what I like about GT - you never know what to expect
Highly, HIGHLY recommend "Pyrocene" off this album.
OH PLEASE THIS SONG IS AMAZING
I was a huge fan of their music back in the day and when this new album came out, it caught me completely by surprise. There was such a massive difference in their sound but it was soooo good.
The Feast has a really cool rhythmic riff that I always loved.
Rock Candy was one of my favorites because it was all over the place. Laser Bitch was my favorite to show to my EDM friends 🤣
They have a more "complete' lineup on this comeback album with a new vocalist. Their previous lineup was 3 guys, one guy on guitar, one guy on a big Andromeda keyboard, and a vocalist with additional keys, along with programmed drums (they used the software Drumkit from Hell for realistic sounding drumming). I got into them when their first EP came out, and that thing throws a lot at you in a short amount of time and sounds more playful and less 'serious' than everything they released after it.
Wow i f*ckin dig this - gonna go buy it. Geebs, you should put affiliate links to Amazon/Apple/Etc music stores (since u dont get YT ad $). I'm sure tons of people buy music from your vids, so why not link them there and get the bread? :)
Maaaan. I love Genghis Tron. I have the pleasure of saying that my band opened up for them twice. They are truly wonderful human beings. I would love for you to check out something from their earlier albums!
Please oh please do more Genghis Tron! Love the new stuff but their older work is where the most fun bits are.
Well surprise surprise Nick Yacyshyn is the drummer. He's a god damn beast on the drums and I love his work on SUMAC.
Check out his drum cam Live at Rain City Recorders by the band Baptists
sumac is incredible
I love these guys music. Even did a remix with my own vocals over the chill part of their best song.
glad you reacted to GT, this was one of my favorite albums of last year as its quite different than their previous work
Man, they've come a long way since Board Up The House
Still here ! Thanks for this one again Geebz, have a great day ! 👊🤙
I've to say... I've been playing this song in repeat the whole day. It really hit something! Thanks!
My album of the year when it came out. Fantastic discography.
Yes!
And mine!
That was great! Good call, thank you! I'm still here! Awwright!
Every time i remember about this channel my whole day gets better
I was so stoked to see you check theses guys out. If you go back into that album check out "ritual circle". And please check out the "board up the house" album. A lot "heavier", really good, you'll be surprised
New Genghis Tron? Wow. That's great
Saw them open up for Converge in like 2005 and it was incredible.
it's amazing watching them do this live.
You know a songs really hitting when Geebs mouths the F word 🤣
I’m still here! Definitely going to check this band out
Absolutely incredible song and album.
I'm so glad to see GT being talked about! I think they are their own genre and Hamilton does hammer ons for the most part...adds to the synth sound
Absolutely love this album. Nic, the drummer, really nails it. There's a good podcast with him discussing the recording process of this album. He recorded his parts in Canada without ever actually meeting the other band members. He definitely overdubs on almost every song. He had two kits, one of them set up almost like a timpani rig, to do the awesome tom fills. He said he listened to tons of Phil Collins and Tears for Fears prior to recording. Tony, the vocalist, is one of the founding members of The Armed, another awesome band that does some crazy stuff (experimental hardcore).
Love The Armed, seen them live and it was insanity.
Theres a lot of "hidden" nostalgia on this track, and IIRC, the album in general, that echoes back to some of their older songs. If you ever decide to do Genghis Tron again, check out the song Board Up The House, lots of cool similarities.
Genghis tron is awesome and I can’t recommend board up the house more highly! Dream weapon is a great choice too!
Hey, Geebz 🙂! On 11 Jul 2021, you did *The Dillinger Escape Plan* - _One of Us Is the Killer._ How about _Party Smasher_ sometime 🤔?
Late to the party here, but some really great stuff coming along! This was a PHENOMENAL track, really blew me away!
What I love the most in music like this is the layers and depth that everything comes along from. Just every new measure brings something new from backing guitars, to layered choruses, to ambient background noise, to extra drum fills, to the fucking kitchen sink. Love, love, love it!
You said it before, Geebz, but it's the power of simplicity. Not too difficult for any of the musicians.
This brought a new dimension to "wall of sound" where it doesn't need to get loud and proud, it just wants to be complex, and add on and on and on without becoming muddied but what's tracked before it.
Freaking amazing song choice here!
Thanks for the vid, Geebz, will absolutely have to hear some more from these guys. Hope they become another new addiction for me!
I'm still here! Keep on rocking!🤘🤙
this album is a 10 out of 10 for me, perfect record. would love to see you react to more from it, maybe the closer, "great mother."
Need to do the song "Laser Bitch" by Genghis Tron. 🥳
Wow! I've never heard of GENGHIS TRON before, but this song was killing it! That drummer tho 🤯 and that repeating riff. Late nite playlist for sure when I've piped one up 😀 I'm still here Master Geebz ❤️🤘💯
Right? What a find for sure :)
@@KeyOfGeebz Tha truth!
Genghis Tron is the best band ever. But this album was definitely not cybergrind.
Cloak of Love EP is where it's at.
And Board Up the House.
I saw em live shortly after Dead Mountain Mouth came out, in a tiny 200 person cinder block building. Loudest show I've ever seen. My ears were ringing for about 3-4 days afterward.
Yes I agree, not much Cybergrind here at all. I would like to see him do a reaction to S.M.E.S or Libido Airbag😁😁
I remember when their drummer was a little black box
You should check out " Radar " by Secret Chiefs 3. Its led by Mr. Bungle guitarist Trey Spruance. Its a cover of an incidental score piece from 1941 " The Day the Earth Stood Still " by Bernard Hermann
First heard Laser Bitch off Cloak of Love EP 2004. Formative band for 15 year old Ian - sick stuff!
That's some sick poly-rhythmics there.
Love their old and new stuff. Truly outstanding band.
If you get a chance, check out "Relief" from them... beautiful, brutal song.
Howzit!!! First found your channel a few videos ago reacting to Polyphia. Could absolutely without a doubt tell you was local from that intro! It would be awesome to see you do a reaction to 'Maximum the Hormone' and/or 'Dexcore'. Anyways good to hear the floodings settled! Keep doing what you do!!
Not a musician but fucking love your videos. Especially on heavy music. Check out the refused. Drummer is self proclaimed greatest jazz drummer ever
While I definitely gravitate more towards their old stuff, its cool to see you reacting to these guys
Incredibly underrated band, and part of that is because the harshness of their early material definitely wasn't everyone's cup of tea. But this departure isn't even really them becoming more "accessible" so much as maintaining the complexity but naturally progressing from the end of their last album. Each release they put out is similar to the previous one, but nothing like the one before it; almost like going halfway into a new style, then next time it's fully into that style and halfway into the next one.
I think that doing a reaction outside every once in a while could be a cool change. I really thought it was cool 😎🤙
Hi Adam! Yea, going to make that part of my "thing" - people really seemed to like it :)
@@KeyOfGeebz mahalo
So interesting that you'd pick this band. I have a bit of history with them myself. Their first EP was released in 2005 and I was reviewing music at the time ending me up with a copy - it's a 5 track whirlwind that can't last more than twelve minutes, but that was kind of the point, grindcore never does anything more than it needs to; it ended up being a regular listen for me. So much so, in fact that I remember staying up and refreshing the store page of their label to get the limited print remix EP "Cape of Hate."
At some point I got to talking to Hamilton the guitarist and made friends. Enough so that he shipped me from the US to the UK, a CD-R of what would become their first album, with "do not share" written on it with Sharpie. This was months before the release date, so I consider it an heirloom.
Not long after they played at the Camden Underworld where I got to have a brief chat with everyone.
This video is actually my intro to their new material, so I'm more excited than usual for the Geebz rundown.
Oh, okay this new album is nothing like the old stuff. It sounds like Floor!
NEW BAND ALERT!
Antisaint
Just saw them open for puddle of mudd. They are great. Please listen to Parasite, Feed the crows, or unreal expectations.
They program all the drums. 3 piece. Definitely check out some older stuff please. Board Up the House, White Walls, Rock Candy, or Laser Bitch maybe?
They always programmed the drums before. This was the first album they used a live drummer for recording. When I saw em live in 08 or so it was all programmed, which is weird to see a live band like this with no human drummer.
They USED to. They actually got a real drummer and new singer for this album.
It's always a risk when a band fundamentally changes their sound. Genghis Tron's new style is one of the most successful style transitions I've heard. I really like their old stuff as well, but they've gone in a totally different direction with this album and just nailed it. Thanks for taking the time to look at this song!
Insane track! 👌🏼
You've listened to cybergrind before - Clown Core! My personal go to for cybergrind is WHOURKR! Check out the song Arithmetic Punishment!
Their old stuff is definitely where all the cybergrind is. It's also worth reacting to or just checking out at the very least.
If you want some other weirdo synth metal though check out Horse the Band. I'd recommend either The Black Hole or Lord Gold Throneroom.
Sort of in a similar vein was The Number Twelve Looks Like You. Especially their last album.
Horse the Band need WAAAYYYYY more love then they get!
@@BillPassmore HARD agree! Would be fun to see him react to Cloudwalker by HTB
You turned me on to a new band! I loved this track. Always dig your commentary, man! 🤙 Would love to hear you react to the massively underrated band Stepa. The song Spaceships and Airplanes is amazing. Would love to see this band get a bit of a signal boost.
I stumbled on this track by sheer accident a few hours after it got posted on YT. Had no idea the band was coming back to life. I found myself blasting this in the car over and over, probably driving faster than I could expect to get out of a ticket. I feel that same sense of nostalgia others are commenting about, especially when those plucks begin around 7:18 in this vid, the sounds seemingly pulled right from The Downward Spiral. Killer album, imo one of the highlights of the last 3-4 years.
great reaction!!! And I'm glad you have sorted out all of the issues with the flooding. Glad all is will. If you're interested in digging in to cybergrind at all, I'd recommend checking out the album "Altered States of America" by Agoraphobic Nosebleed. it's noisy, furious, and a bit uncomfortable. super groovy shit.
Spotify recommended me this album and I thought the name was cool so I checked em out, I love this album. I don’t listen to a lot of stuff like it so it’s kind of my “variety” album when I want to listen to something different
Absolutely over the moon to see you finally check out Genghis Tron. I'd love it even more if you checked out some of their older stuff to find out how different (and yet still identifiable and uniquely themselves) their sound can be. White Walls would be my top choice, I think you'd find it fascinating.
Please listen to their first EP "Cloak of Love", Geebz. Really different from this song, but I think you'd love the broadness of the sonic soundscape.
Also that triplet dugga da dugga triplet and possibly syncopated beat is what we old heads used to call a breakbeat. And tell me it's not the same. Jsrf-concept of love did it the same way in a eurostyle punk underground metal vibe. The exact beat sped up with effects. Dethklok did the triplet sweeps patterns. It's as new as a can of tuna from the 80s.
I've never heard of this band before, or even this genre, but something about the sound reminded me to recommend Cynic to you again. I know I've seen a lot of other people recommend them, too. The vibe is similar to this, but turn the dial more in the prog death metal direction. I think you would be into it.
Straight to playlist, never heard of them but like it.
If you like multi-genre bands try the band Psykup, i suggest Violent Brazilian massage as a start- you’ll live it! 🌸🤘🏼🤙🏻
ps love the dinosaurs on the fridge!!
Never heard of this band nor this genre but I dig it! Very spacy. Love the muffled (?) vocals. Kind of reminds me a little bit of Ancient Sky I think? Though with faster tempo. Maybe even a hint of Silversun Pickups too
Their latest album is a monument
This was cool. I remember seeing the name quite a few years ago but don't remember if I heard anything. I did like the 2nd half of it more, the more atmospheric build.
I'm still here!
Whoa I haven’t heard this band in like a decade. But they have really really changed their sound. I like it actually.
This record was my absolute favorite musical discovery last year! If I may make a suggestion, put "Gold and Silver" by Stavesacre on your radar. You WILL get chicken skin...
I'm assuming the drumme is imitating the gallops of horses, really suiting the 'Genghis' part of the band name
Now this is good - pushed me to listen to the Dream Weapon album and I really like it - nice layers and repeats - triggers a few thoughts, gentler Trent Reznor, meets Boards of Canada, meets a proggy-synthy Sonic Youth - in parts. Nice one Geebz -thank you.👍
Cybergrind is an interesting subgenre. You should check out Pig Destroyer’s cover of “Excess” by Perturbator. Very good crossover of a classic grindcore band and an electronic song.
Whoa! Kudos for even engaging with, let alone addressing Genghis Tron!! Commenting to view later.
Vassar, Poughkeepsie kids fo sho.
I'm a send ya more weird soon duder.
How do I escalate past subs. To suggestion engagement sir? I has deep cuts for ya!.....?
k, dug that. new to me. that drummer made me question my own cardio.
Hi! I really like your videos, could you please react to some Tally Hall music?, you can start with "ruler of everything" or "welcome to tally hall". They only have two albums, so you can hear it all easily
You can tell in the instrumental break down at the end
that these guys are influenced by Queens of the Stone Age big time. The vocals coming in on the 9 with the driving beat and continued guitar riff. I dig it.
Interesting sound, I'll have to look further into this. Not entirely sold on the laid back vocal with the drum speed.
(edit, more in reference to the lead in, seemed a little better in the outro but still not convinced.)
In the "hmmmm" basket, I will check this genre out a bit more.
😄still here
Damn, you got around to Genghis Tron? I thought they were relatively obscure! Now I gotta see if you'll listen to Cloudkicker at some point
Dream weapon is A+.
Look at the rev. From avenged sevenfold. So far away was his final...... Notation. But he wrote every single part. Right before he...... Passed. Worth a look, maybe not on the channel. Reminds me a hell of a lot of this solid capable metal drummer. Like an uncomfortable amount of reminiscence. Song is AVENGED sevenfold- FICTION.
Hey Geebz,
Can you listen to This Town Needs Guns “Baboon”?
Their guitarist uses a regular capo and a banjo capo on that song. Just curious what you would think about it.
Thanks!
Really good album!
You want a really weird one...? Horse The Band. Nintendo-core. I suggest starting with the song that made them: Cutsman.
HORSE: the band is great. The album Mechanical Hand is a masterpiece.
They did cancel a whole tour for pizza once though.
@@TheRealLetharos Now that you mention it, Birdo would be another great song to start with.
You should check out White Arms of Athena
Hi Geebz. Glad you enjoyed Genghis Tron. They’re great
May I recommend a reaction to anything from Dreadnought (maybe midnight moon)? They are a progressive group I feel would make for a very nice reaction.
Thank you and keep up the great work!
Hard to call Dream Weapon a cybergrind album. Their earlier stuff had a lot of elements of metalcore & grindcore weaving in & out of synth pop or industrial rock/metal. When they came back they kinda picked a side and took it in new directions, more electronic rock than crazy experimental metal (certainly not extreme metal like grindcore).
One of the album descriptions I read said it "picks up where Board Up the House left off" but it really doesnt, it picks up where half of it left off and pretty much abandons the more aggro punk/metal side for a more relaxed synth/prog thing. It's like punk vs. post-punk or something, you might call it post-cybergrind lmao. It's still really good but in a different way.
If you wanna see what I mean check out songs from their earlier records like Laser Bitch or The Folding Road, or something from their last album way back in 2008 like Endless Teeth or Things Dont Look Good. The differences are immediately apparent, and the direction they decided to go is also apparent in the tracks and passages that arent especially metalcore-inflected. Can't say I dont miss the heavier stuff. They sorta found a middleground but the dynamics between the light and the heavy were pretty enjoyable.
Board Up The House has a great intro section...
I love Genghis Tron, but the newer stuff is waaaaaay different than previous albums. check out a track like The Folding Road for comparison. chaotic electro tech-metal that's absolutely brutal in comparison to this which is a little more progressive and dreamy.
Board Up the House was a game changer for me, such a uniquely brilliant album. Love this song but am yet to hear the album, time to rectify that!
Another cyber grind band is Gigantic Brain, some interesting songs to be found.
Gotta go with the classic offerings
Hi Geebz, I’m still here. I’ve never heard these guys before and I thought it was great. I think the last two min. of the song seemed like a tremendous build up. I’m still trying to figure out music theory but did they every really go to the “home” note in the last two min? I thought I heard the vocal hit it once but maybe I was just looking for it. Thanks 😀
Namaste
I didn't know they were still active. I remember hearing ride the steambolt back in the day. I didn't like thier full length album they released after that as much but this is great.
They were on hiatus for a long time. I stumbled across their return when I wanted to go back to Board Up the House for the first time in ages. This song IMMEDIATELY grabbed me. So good.
You got to try Iwrestledabearonce
Scar Symmetry - Holographic Universe
Their first two albums were absolute bangers. I can't remember the name of the first one but I believe it had a coffin on it. EDIT: It was Cloak Of Love: Board Up the House though is just a huge game changer. When "The Whips Blow Back" hit after "City On A Hill" It's just the best.
I was lucky to find these guys around 2004 and see them live with Baroness and The Red Chord at Iowa City around 2006 or 07?
I love 'em.
Wow. Never heard this band before
Check out An Iteration by The Armed.
I loved Genghis when they were cybergrind but this album is a masterpiece. It's metal but it's also an art piece.
hey geebz, listen to Autotheist by The Faceless
Glad no mold.
It's hard to hear over the drums kinda, like they're too far in the front of the mix... maybe it is just me. Don't know why but im getting smashing pumpkins vibes. Good work/study music. I'm still here.
It's my b-day at the start of october and may i humbly suggest kevin sherwood - Drowning. I know you'll love this song because of its sound engineering, funky bass and a sick solo. I'd rather suggest Pareidolia because that song means more to me but Drowning has WAY better sound engineering (because its newer). It is basically one guy who writes/plays the music/ lyrics who has a guest singer (Malukah for this) along with one other guy scott eckert that does the sound engineering/mixing.... that's it. I know you got a ton of songs on your list be i thought I'd at least put this out in the Aether.
Ah shit, listen to some Torche. Torche - Kicking
can you please react to the music video too lol