I'm sure the voice acting, and dialogue is going to be pretty good, as Luke has said, the narrative part of the game is going to be good, it's just everything else is still up in the air.
@@TheBlargMarg I hope so. I know it’s a live service game but if I play through the game and have a pretty fun time gameplay wise and really enjoy the story then I’ll be happy. I played the alpha and actually enjoyed the gameplay.
That's because this game feels like it's gonna change the future for better or worse. I also don't plan on playing this because fawk live services in these types of games but the fascination stems from how it performs critically and financially. It it succeeds that means more studios are gonna greenlight live services and if it fails it sends one more strong message that gamers won't support this and hopefully that causes a restructuring of the future to the gamers benefit. Or maybe I'm just overthrowing it and this game literally doesn't mean shit either way.
Same, there’s lots of things I find off putting about what I’ve seen but I’m still so interested to see what the full game is like and what the reception is
Honestly, regardless of what someone thinks about the game, it’s definitely a W that they’re making every DLC character and story chapter free for players who own the game
Yeah man, I think right now, so many people are caught up in the hate hype of this game that they're ignoring some of the positives. By no means am I expecting this to be some great game day 1, but I see the potential, and I WANT it to succeed and be a good game. More good games is always a good thing. Granted, some of the negativity around this game is warranted, but a game doesn't need to be perfect for it to be fun and worth playing. I'm just hoping that it's not completely trash and will be worth playing
As someone who's loved borderlands since the first game all that matters to me is that the characters feel unique and that loot system is deep enough to keep me chasing the dragon. Can't lie, I think this looks like a blast 🤷
Yea I think it looks fun and me and my friends have grown up on those games so we think this will be fun especially if they keep adding stuff consistently
This??? Is what I was looking for, personally nah I'll probably never play it. The graphics are fine, the voice cast is great and looks very chaotically fun and colorful. And while the premise of being a " live service shooter" as opposed to the typical melee open world of the Batman universe that I've come to expect for RS does disappoint me greatly! it's ppl like you where I can be ok with it. because someone like yourself may or will enjoy this and I for one am happy that it pleases a great many. So I hope it's what you've always wanted, play well and play hard sir...
This just feels like a reskinned Gotham knights sometimes. Like the traversal like how king shark’s jump abilities is like red hood’s jump abilities or harley is like nightwing
I’m so sad Mark Hamil isn’t voicing the Joker since Kevin is in this game as Batman it would have been nice to have the two together one last time and it would make this joker design a bit more tolerable Btw in the endgame stream we can see a poster for the JS members and one of them shows Hal Jorden Green Lantern
I'm no trying to hate on you Luke but I don't think you actually like to play video games. Id like to know what recent releases you have played, liked and actually beat.
Dragons Dogma had that system where other players could use your pawn and then your pawn will get back with more knowledge and sometimes items whenever you rest on an inn
22:37 he's talking about within the context of the suicide squad as a team and also the mix of all 3 gameplay styles , those things together haven't been in a multiplayer space
Well to be fair co op game that involves fun traversal with melee and range combat about large groups of enemies in a 3rd person game? Sounds like Sunset Overdrive but with dc villains.
11:40 Rocksteady just gave the finger to every fan of the Arkham Designs. This reminds me of the DMC devil may cry game where they gave Dante his OG hair just to roast it.
@@xLeandroIXexactly what is the point…While that is true the outfit is recontextualized and not a skirt. Like the original. It’s also an optional cosmetic. Doesn’t mean it’s canon. No different than the characters wearing fire jackets. But it’s more choices and fun for the player.
Hope not , at most maybe a member of the earth 3 crime syndicate verison , but I'd prefer more villians or off beat characters like the Son of Zod & Kirk Lanstrom batman from gods & monsters , where they're more villianous than the characters we know ahd love
This game will probably be to rocksteady what redfall was to arkane... or what avengers was to crystal dynamics. An embarrasing live service disapointment that nobody wanted from a historically respected studio. Its just sad.
Which players are you talking about, people like you ? Dinosaurs my friend. Feel free to prove me wrong, don't support the game and hopefully others like you don't as well and let's see if it's a big enough group to lighten Rocksteadys wallet or not.
Ill be honest, they kinda won me over. I hated that they weren't making a new arkham game, but the more ive seen of this and the more i know what to expect, im kinda pumped for this. The fact that theyve got 2 years worth of content already done and they're including it with the game for free is fucking awesome 👌 Why arent more people talking about that
for me it's the opposite, the more I see of this game, the less and less I'm interested in it (not that I was ever that much interested in the first place) everything just looks so bad, 2 years of free garbage is still garbage
@slavic_shinobi76 what makes it garbage? Destiny is one of the most popular games of all time, with horrible micro transactions, paid dlc THAT GOES AWAY, and a gameplay loop that consists of shooting huge glowing weak spots on enemies. Sound familiar? I think everyone is just hating this game because it's not what they want. Which is fine. But it doesn't make anyone who does want to play it "less than" in any way.
Yall do know this joker is from an entirely different universe? Why am I seeing people cry and say how he isn’t Arkham City joker. It’s a totally different character….. 🤦🏾♂️
Their "you get loot if another player uses your build" feature probably reminds of, like your chat mentioned, the AC: Valaha companion system or most likely Draagon Dogma's Pawn system, which essentially functioned the same way. Also I think that other dude was generalizing about videogames being fun and unique experiences when multiplayer, that playing with friends is always a unique thing, not that their multiplayer specifically is.
wdym “they’re red now” yeah, they’re flash-infused enemies, like do you not want enemy variety?? I feel like whatever they do now they’re just met with petty and annoyance.
The game you were remembering is Dragons Dogma. It lent you other players characters or bits while they were offline. They would get exp as a result of you playing their character. So there is nothing unique about this game.
I really like Rocksteady interpretation of the four suicide squad in the main launch campaign say what ever you want it's better than the movies therefore I am shocked they were able to make the worst joker I've ever seen 😂 especially after they got it right in Arkham like I thought Jay Leto's joker looked bad 😞😞
I dont disagree with your take on the pick up & put down from players quickly after launch. The saving grace is the free episodes that are playable ar any point, so if you dont like a theme you can just skip it and then pick it up again for a few weeks when they like the theme
Not sure if this is the plan but the endgame should also contain boss fights against the JL like in the story. Then maybe add alternate world JL members or even new league heroes to fight.
19:56 i think theyeve said that theres a bunch of different enemy types based for each member of the justice league. The purple ones will be brainiac villains but then theyll be differnet ki ds of enemeies (similiar to the gangs from previous games) for each of the other targets. Like thay red one looks like one of the flash's enemy types. Its why ive hated this "lilling ourple monsters" thing.. like hes braniac... purples kind of his colour. Even if they made a superman game when youre fighting braniac youd just be fighting hundreds of purple monsters
Thank you for this. How many thugs that did the same shit did we beat up in Arkham. Surprise they pretty much were all dressed like inmates. Also most people have only played the beginning of the game and typically those are the easiest and most mundane enemies.
While I don't think this game looks amazing and most of the critiques seem pretty valid, I'm still looking forward to this. I'm not crazy about battle royales, souls likes, or roguelikes and everything seems to be a lot of that. A narrative driven (although with live service elements) third person shooter isn't as common to come by as it was 15 years ago and almost feels like a nice little rarity. I won't hold my breath, but I hope this is fun.
Dude reminds me of every GameStop employee I’ve ever met. He’s the live action Jeff Albertson. And that thing about the multiplayer comment in the video was so pedantic and riddled with the ‘tism. I try so hard to like your videos but jfc Do you like any games? Does anything meet or exceed your refined tastes?
I feel like this is something id like, i know its not for everybody. I doubt im buying this day one, depending on how im feeling a week or two after this, or even if its just on sale or ps plus etc.
I honestly think people are getting nervous that this is actually gonna be a good game and actually succeed and find a dedicated fan base and people are going to be a position to keep hating or play the game and actually say ok we were wrong just my take
With all these colours onscreen, I'd expect there's gonna be colour coded enemies tied to your character. So some are more/less buffed against you when fighting them.
I feel sad I remember games being £20-£30 and stories had you unlock outfits and weapons without a pass or a paywall. Now we pay £50-£80 and we end up having to get battle passes for unique items 🙄 The gaming industry in 90% of cases forget where they've come from and their own fan base from the past
hey, whenever a game made by a well renowned (singleplayer games) company make a game that is live service and a result of corporate greed, criticism is 100% required because the big wigs has officially started to ruin the company! let's hope Rocksteady comes back from this BUT if people buy it ( I assume you as well) it will be an extremely destructive thing for the company regarding how amazing their previous games ( notably the Arkham series) has been.... stop buying these types of games please.... I don't want Rocksteady to turn into a greedy, money hungry company but the evidence shows it will! It's pretty sad!!!!
@@nicorobin7762companies gotta get paid one way or another for making games, at the end of the day it’s a product just like anything else you buy. Just be thankful rocksteady said u pay for base game and content updates will all be free down the road!
I really like to see this live service style for justice league for example for the post story content they could add non main justice league members like atom,hawk man,green arrow and...
It feels like a bad faith take but the fact they're ALREADY talking about post-launch content on a game they barely even want to admit is live-service feels like they already gave up on the game selling itself. Like having a tiny teaser wouldn't have hurt but they're basically showing the whole plan for season 1 a week before launch.
I really like the game's presentation. The character models, the cutscenes, the dialogue are all appealing to me. The gameplay is still not convincing though.
Isn't this the exact same scenario that went on in injustice 2? But instead of the Injustice story It's it's a suicide squad story. Cause both of them involve the Multi verse and brainiac trying to take control of the Earth. While a Separate story which is either the suicide squad or injustice story line happened on the sideline.
Man, if the single player element of this game was just linear, not jumpy / floaty and even mostly melee combat focused with the story elements the same, but also had what the whole game looks like now as a add on multiplayer component.. this game would probably be a 10/10. I know that might've been a lot to focus on, but put way less resources into this multiplayer style game play (but still have it) and focus on a linear melee driven Suicide Squad game, they probably would have a top 10 game this year.
Ohhhhh Luuuuuuke, read the room. What did I tell you was going to happen? People were going to get sick and tired of this played out “video game bad, let’s trash it and convince everyone not to buy it.” People have their own eyes and this game no longer looks like it’s just about shooting purple enemies now does it? Tbh, most of your content is rage bait. Time for a new shtick bud.
This constant notion of "shooting purple guys for hour and hours" as a bad thing is kind of pointless when you realize that the game is literally a looter SHOOTER. Every single looter shooter on the market has the player shooting/killing hundreds/thousands of similar enemy types throughout the entire gameplay loop, with mini bosses, and main bosses thrown in. Borderlands has the bandits, skags, rakks,....etc, division has the street gangs, drones, named bosses,....etc, Destiny has the same handful of enemy factions and their variants the player is shooting their way through,.....etc. Its the nature of the genre and has been since its popularity with the Borderlands series. Also they have already talked about enemy variants in the steam with Lupo and the others, that will be in the base game not just the next season (such as flash infused enemies that zip around the map). So while I agree more enemy variety in a looter shooter is always a good thing, the game is about shooting so obviously if you don't want to spend hundreds of hours shooting similar enemies for the entire time then the entire genre was never for you in the first place. I'm kind of tired of people looking at looter shooters with the lens of other genres, rather then looking at them and realizing that 99% of the gameplay is SHOOTING (duh), its in the name of the genre lol.
Your chat has taken “be skeptical” and made it “shit on everything immediately.” We saw and heard like 2 seconds of Joker and he seems fine. People need to accept that new actors are going to play Joker and quit crying that it isn’t Mark Hamill.
the fact that every DLC will be free is good, yes, but the "avengers vibes" are still here. Games failing is bad for both the developers and the players, i never expected a new arkham game and i still hope this game turns out to be at least a "DC themed" sunset overdrive. what i expected, though, was more focus on melee. i like the shooting focus but it's a bit weird that rocksteady (the pioneers of free-flow) gave the characters one melee attack each. it would have been cool to see a mixture of freeflow combat with shooting mechanics: potentially an original, really cool thing.
The Moment they gave guns to melee characters, especially some that DON'T EVEN HAVE REAL HANDS they lost me and confirmed this game is a joke and will be stillborn
Being a Looter Shooter, I would expect the reviews to be reviews in progress because of it being an on going game as service. That's been the way most outlets have done it lately.
I was staring at the chat there is NO WAY Dekuworld and CM weren't paid chatters. They were glazing this game an unrealistic amount. Either they're paid or children and I hate saying people were paid to support a game 😂
Endgame kind of reminds me of Chaos rifts from Tiny Tina's Wonderlands, hopefully its more than that cuz they got boring fast. Im still excited to play as Joker though (except his voice)
Developer - *says something simple that we all immediately understood* Luke - let me pause the video and mansplain this to everyone for 20 minutes despite the fact that literally nobody needed the explanation l
I like how Joker sounds and I like how he moves around in fights. The jet-umbrella is cool. I don’t like how he looks though. Maybe it’s the default outfit that’s trash, but he just looks awkward. He looks like they tried to make Joker into the Trickster from DBD because he got super popular, especially amongst other kpop fans cuz he looks a lot like this guy from ATEEZ
The hate doesn't seem justified were to defensive because of other games but honestly this game has been upfront with is very detailed might I add and so far everything they said involving life service is actually a huge leap for the genre like the free content and no paid content minus the pre order cosmetic
They expect ppl to play this game for yrs, but we got like 6 other big titles coming out & GTA Vl next yr 💁🏿 everybody at Rocksteady needs to sit back down & do the math
I hope it's awesome, too. It's coming around I think, like at first it was looking like a mess but they're starting to finally get to telling us the core of the game. This stuff clicks with me, I've put 100s of hours into Destiny, so I love shooter combat that lets you break it up with some melee and the idea of having this indirect pvp is cool. The problem to me is still the end game, like if end game is literally just chasing scoreboards, fashion and waiting on new character drops, that's not going to keep people playing. But all of this stuff being free and not being taken away is actually a step in the right direction, coming from being used to Bungie's model with Destiny.
Honestly I’m disappointed that they couldn’t get mark hamill to voice joker and his new voice I’m still not sold on regardless this will probably be my main game until it dies because I genuinely like it and if you have a different opinion then mine then that’s your opinion I ain’t gonna argue with people who hate this game because honestly that’s a waste of my time that could be spent otherwise playing games and doing things I love
They definitely intended to charge for everything then saw the hate and did a quick 180. I'm still very skeptical and as soon as the "looter shooter" shit comes in, it's a giant blah pass
Idk, Luke has been talking a lot of shit about this game but the more they reveal, the more interested I am. We're going back to Arkham at some point? Come on now...we're gonna have more characters coming too. It's definitely not the game I wanted from Rocksteady, but I'm not ready to write it off yet. P. S. "Where have I seen him (Jason f*cking Isaacs) from?" is the most unintentionally funny moment of this video. How do you not know Jason Isaacs from any one of 40 movies? 😅
@@lordyoda9382 Take your pick between the noncommittal overplayed multiverse bullshit for the campaign to explain away the controversial story elements, the generic looter-shooter grindfest gameplay, or the fact that the devs keep trying to underplay the fact that this game is going to be a live-service title. That last one in particular is a *massive* red flag for anyone who has been paying attention to how these games live and die.
I'm definitely gonna buy and play this. I love the DC universe and looter shooters for me this game is straight up my alley. feel bad for the people that probably wont enjoy it.
This seems like it’ll be like the avengers, I kinda liked the story to the avengers but the main gameplay loop was boring I feel like it’ll be cheap fast so I’ll wait for that unless I start hearing fantastic things, alpha felt pretty smooth and I kinda liked what I played but not enough to really hook me
hey look another streamer jumping on the hate train without knowing what they're talking about. it's so amazing the gaming community got to this point where we're rooting for games to fail before they're even released yet. where did it go wrong, i don't know, but the gaming community is at an all time low
20:30 How can you own a game that's online only and is going to be unplayable when it inevitably flops and has its servers shut down? You fucking can't and i feel like barfing when they try to play into the "Ownership" and "No battle pass locked content" like that's such a big selling point. Could've easily been a single player story game with online co op mode and if it was a good game and they wanted to keep investing into it no one would object to buying a 40$ or hell even a 60$ DLC like Destiny does.
It's the DC version of Marvels Avengers. It clearly demonstrates that publishers aren't capable of learning, even from other publishers catastrophic mistakes.
@@bwhere45 those same cofounders also were apart of the direction of the game to the state we are currently at. They left as they wanted to focus on other things maybe no longer superheroes? As the main focus will seemingly be this game and its live service which they don’t really need them for. Lots of games like this, does this. Sefton hill himself has expressed for a long time of wanting to do something different in the industry since Knight. The interviews are there.
@@bwhere45 you misinterpret. Their work is already done. Not as a cofounder but apart of the games direction. The work is done. The game is done. He is done. Him leaving doesn’t indicate the quality of the game.
one thing about rocksteady: they're gonna find a way to put joker in their game
On god
its not rocksteady because im so sure theyre being held at gun point making this game
Yup I'm so sick of the joker being in everything
I mean, I think most of the OG devs are probably working at 100 star games now since 2022.@@TheDon_Vito
@lxsicko it's not Rocksteady because the head dudes left
Say what you want about the game. Jason Issac being Brainiac is actually pretty cool!
I'm sure the voice acting, and dialogue is going to be pretty good, as Luke has said, the narrative part of the game is going to be good, it's just everything else is still up in the air.
@@TheBlargMarg I hope so. I know it’s a live service game but if I play through the game and have a pretty fun time gameplay wise and really enjoy the story then I’ll be happy. I played the alpha and actually enjoyed the gameplay.
@@TheBlargMargup in the air lmao. It’s obvious how it will be.
Dude is just an amazing actor. Makes me feel bad for not wanting to buy it. They really should have made this single-player. 😢
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I’ve got a morbid fascination with Suicide Squad, even though I can’t imagine I’ll play it.
That's because this game feels like it's gonna change the future for better or worse. I also don't plan on playing this because fawk live services in these types of games but the fascination stems from how it performs critically and financially.
It it succeeds that means more studios are gonna greenlight live services and if it fails it sends one more strong message that gamers won't support this and hopefully that causes a restructuring of the future to the gamers benefit.
Or maybe I'm just overthrowing it and this game literally doesn't mean shit either way.
I'll wait until next year, when this goes on sale for $20 just like Gotham Knights did.
Same, there’s lots of things I find off putting about what I’ve seen but I’m still so interested to see what the full game is like and what the reception is
Honestly, regardless of what someone thinks about the game, it’s definitely a W that they’re making every DLC character and story chapter free for players who own the game
Yeah man, I think right now, so many people are caught up in the hate hype of this game that they're ignoring some of the positives. By no means am I expecting this to be some great game day 1, but I see the potential, and I WANT it to succeed and be a good game. More good games is always a good thing. Granted, some of the negativity around this game is warranted, but a game doesn't need to be perfect for it to be fun and worth playing. I'm just hoping that it's not completely trash and will be worth playing
@@justjami9619 The only reason they're doing this is BECAUSE of the massive backlash at the blatant cash grab language Rocksteady was using
Don't believe something you couldn't see with your eyes yet, just like Overwatch 2
Usually, and especially in the case of WB games, if something sounds like a real good deal, _there is a massive catch to it._
100% agree but I'll worry about how true that is until I see it followed through
Dragon's Dogma already did this through the Pawn system a decade ago, player made pawns are what you borrow for your party setups
Facts super excited for dragons dogma 2
I wish I saw this live and in chat because the whole time he was trying to think of the game, I kept saying "pawn system in Dragons Dogma."
As someone who's loved borderlands since the first game all that matters to me is that the characters feel unique and that loot system is deep enough to keep me chasing the dragon. Can't lie, I think this looks like a blast 🤷
I’m with you.
Yup, it looks fun with a ton of possibilities and content
Yea I think it looks fun and me and my friends have grown up on those games so we think this will be fun especially if they keep adding stuff consistently
This??? Is what I was looking for, personally nah I'll probably never play it. The graphics are fine, the voice cast is great and looks very chaotically fun and colorful. And while the premise of being a " live service shooter" as opposed to the typical melee open world of the Batman universe that I've come to expect for RS does disappoint me greatly! it's ppl like you where I can be ok with it. because someone like yourself may or will enjoy this and I for one am happy that it pleases a great many. So I hope it's what you've always wanted, play well and play hard sir...
@@adamboard1446 I loved this from you not hating on others bcs of what they like
You dropped something sir 👑
I think Peacemaker and Bane are likely to be in the post launch content
especially with this elseworld we can get a different version of Bane,deathstroke, bloodsport peacemaker I do have fingers crossed for black manta
Spoiler: they’re not. The three other dlc characters are Ms Freeze (not Mr), Lawless (deadshot’s daughter), and deathstroke
@@bensxbd thats very disappointing
@@bensxbdthose characters definitely work better as shooters than fking king shark and captain boomerang
@@MorgoYT peacemaker could still come. Its live service, they sometimes run for 5 plus years. that's years of content.
Wake up babe, new Luke Stephens video thrashing the Suicide Squad game
🤜 💥 🐴
This just feels like a reskinned Gotham knights sometimes. Like the traversal like how king shark’s jump abilities is like red hood’s jump abilities or harley is like nightwing
Their version of The Joker just seems like a reskinned version Kefka from Dissidia
I’m so sad Mark Hamil isn’t voicing the Joker since Kevin is in this game as Batman it would have been nice to have the two together one last time and it would make this joker design a bit more tolerable
Btw in the endgame stream we can see a poster for the JS members and one of them shows Hal Jorden Green Lantern
18:53 who thought it was a good idea to hire twitter users to design batman villains?
I've seen designs on Twitter that are better than the designs in this game.
I'm no trying to hate on you Luke but I don't think you actually like to play video games. Id like to know what recent releases you have played, liked and actually beat.
He doesn't like shit
He liked plenty of them? Like Baldur's gate for example? He listed the not good parts yeah but he still liked it.
@@Ashbrash1998 the only reason why because it’s general consensus
Man says the this dogshit is shit and get hated on by blind sheep consumers, whats new xd
honestly I feel much better about the game now that I know you get the expansions for free basically.
Dragons Dogma had that system where other players could use your pawn and then your pawn will get back with more knowledge and sometimes items whenever you rest on an inn
Nothing is going to save this Game.
Game is gonna be great stop crying about the fact it’s not another Batman game
@@aronisnotcool This will be free to play within a year lol
So no positivity towards it then? At all? 😂
I think this is gonna be cool. But I’m not paying 70 bucks for it. No way, no how.
So in other words you’re game sharing 😂
Agreed I'm paying 100😮
@@claytonbigsby82Ill pray for you
@@dahoodie3158 awe thanks man😇
22:37 he's talking about within the context of the suicide squad as a team and also the mix of all 3 gameplay styles , those things together haven't been in a multiplayer space
Well to be fair co op game that involves fun traversal with melee and range combat about large groups of enemies in a 3rd person game? Sounds like Sunset Overdrive but with dc villains.
11:40 Rocksteady just gave the finger to every fan of the Arkham Designs. This reminds me of the DMC devil may cry game where they gave Dante his OG hair just to roast it.
I mean the outfit was originated under the jokers rule who she has since grown out of. Considering it was a relation clearly displayed as abuse. So.
@@berice4390 then few seconds later you can see she wearing the old costume when she was still with theJoker. What's the point then?
@@xLeandroIXexactly what is the point…While that is true the outfit is recontextualized and not a skirt. Like the original. It’s also an optional cosmetic. Doesn’t mean it’s canon. No different than the characters wearing fire jackets. But it’s more choices and fun for the player.
I really think that this will slowly become a justice league game.
They can literally introduce different versions of the JL now.
that would not make sense unless they change the entire core of the game.
@@FZJanimatedI have talked with miller Ross in discord he said JL will come back for the final fight
@@karthiknair1711 so...why not just give us a justice league game? Is everyone gonna also have a gun in the Justice League?
Hope not , at most maybe a member of the earth 3 crime syndicate verison , but I'd prefer more villians or off beat characters like the Son of Zod & Kirk Lanstrom batman from gods & monsters , where they're more villianous than the characters we know ahd love
@@MrZithgal he said JL might be playable it’s just a speculation and he also said flash will join us during season 2
This game will probably be to rocksteady what redfall was to arkane... or what avengers was to crystal dynamics. An embarrasing live service disapointment that nobody wanted from a historically respected studio. Its just sad.
Rocksteady being this fantastically out of touch with what players want is a skill in itself
It seems the "players" these days are limpwristed newage kids that love live service games.
@RS-kt6bo Seems pretty pathetic to judge people just for wanting to play a video game dude.
@@theketaminekid1241bro is just being an edgy teen let him live 😂
Which players are you talking about, people like you ? Dinosaurs my friend. Feel free to prove me wrong, don't support the game and hopefully others like you don't as well and let's see if it's a big enough group to lighten Rocksteadys wallet or not.
Stop being poor lol
Ill be honest, they kinda won me over. I hated that they weren't making a new arkham game, but the more ive seen of this and the more i know what to expect, im kinda pumped for this. The fact that theyve got 2 years worth of content already done and they're including it with the game for free is fucking awesome 👌
Why arent more people talking about that
Along with 15 cosmetics
@@memes3751 then don't buy em
I dont understand this argument. It holds no weight at all
Won you over enough to keep playing for yrs? I doubt it
for me it's the opposite, the more I see of this game, the less and less I'm interested in it (not that I was ever that much interested in the first place) everything just looks so bad, 2 years of free garbage is still garbage
@slavic_shinobi76 what makes it garbage? Destiny is one of the most popular games of all time, with horrible micro transactions, paid dlc THAT GOES AWAY, and a gameplay loop that consists of shooting huge glowing weak spots on enemies. Sound familiar? I think everyone is just hating this game because it's not what they want. Which is fine. But it doesn't make anyone who does want to play it "less than" in any way.
Yall do know this joker is from an entirely different universe? Why am I seeing people cry and say how he isn’t Arkham City joker. It’s a totally different character….. 🤦🏾♂️
Fr, there’s nothing wrong with this joker.
Easy because he sounds and looks like shit they couldn't come up with a better design than this.
People already letting them off the hook for bad takes because "aLTerNaTe UnIVErse." Hilarious. Guess it worked.
@@jonasking9587 It don’t take away from what I said. Haha. Also opinions my guy 😁. Yall gotta learn how to move on. We had 4 Arkham games my gosh
@@Aj-B44 it's just a comic book trope and a cop out. I don't care, honestly. Not interested in a live service. Rip Rocksteady though.
Their "you get loot if another player uses your build" feature probably reminds of, like your chat mentioned, the AC: Valaha companion system or most likely Draagon Dogma's Pawn system, which essentially functioned the same way. Also I think that other dude was generalizing about videogames being fun and unique experiences when multiplayer, that playing with friends is always a unique thing, not that their multiplayer specifically is.
The preemptive trashing of this game is absurd tbh
There's no way you actually play games. Name 3 games you played and beat. You literally complained the entire time about the same 5 things.
wdym “they’re red now” yeah, they’re flash-infused enemies, like do you not want enemy variety?? I feel like whatever they do now they’re just met with petty and annoyance.
flash infused enemies? that sounds so stupid.
The game you were remembering is Dragons Dogma. It lent you other players characters or bits while they were offline. They would get exp as a result of you playing their character. So there is nothing unique about this game.
Hoping it’s more than just XP
WB not putting Joker in a Rocksteady game challenge: Impossible
I really like Rocksteady interpretation of the four suicide squad in the main launch campaign say what ever you want it's better than the movies therefore I am shocked they were able to make the worst joker I've ever seen 😂 especially after they got it right in Arkham like I thought Jay Leto's joker looked bad 😞😞
I dont disagree with your take on the pick up & put down from players quickly after launch.
The saving grace is the free episodes that are playable ar any point, so if you dont like a theme you can just skip it and then pick it up again for a few weeks when they like the theme
This guy is really milking the hate out of this game. 33 minute vid out of an 11 minute showcase.
Not sure if this is the plan but the endgame should also contain boss fights against the JL like in the story. Then maybe add alternate world JL members or even new league heroes to fight.
They are
In the roadmap section it did say more boss fights will be added.
Game kinda reminds me of Saints Row 4 and I'm honestly here for it.
So they added the Pawn system from Dragons Dogma?
Joker looks like Shane Madej from BuzzFeed/Watcher 😂😂😂
Unlike the the base characters,Jokers transversal movement is actually unique looking.
The fact that Joker is the first DLC is just perfect to me. it's an absolute cherry on top of a shit Sunday.
19:56 i think theyeve said that theres a bunch of different enemy types based for each member of the justice league. The purple ones will be brainiac villains but then theyll be differnet ki ds of enemeies (similiar to the gangs from previous games) for each of the other targets. Like thay red one looks like one of the flash's enemy types.
Its why ive hated this "lilling ourple monsters" thing.. like hes braniac... purples kind of his colour. Even if they made a superman game when youre fighting braniac youd just be fighting hundreds of purple monsters
Thank you for this. How many thugs that did the same shit did we beat up in Arkham. Surprise they pretty much were all dressed like inmates. Also most people have only played the beginning of the game and typically those are the easiest and most mundane enemies.
People have been saying the game feels good to play. For all the reservations I have, I'm not writing this game off just yet.
'You got boomerang giving you the finger!' Yeah that makes me want to play your game....ha..ha.....ha....
Not into the gameplay at all but I will watch the story on youtube day 1.
This game really just reminds me of Sunset Overdrive but DC. Kinda strange but hey it aint my 70 bucks
While I don't think this game looks amazing and most of the critiques seem pretty valid, I'm still looking forward to this.
I'm not crazy about battle royales, souls likes, or roguelikes and everything seems to be a lot of that. A narrative driven (although with live service elements) third person shooter isn't as common to come by as it was 15 years ago and almost feels like a nice little rarity. I won't hold my breath, but I hope this is fun.
9:27 not a live service, but Dragon's Dogma did this years ago
Dude reminds me of every GameStop employee I’ve ever met.
He’s the live action Jeff Albertson.
And that thing about the multiplayer comment in the video was so pedantic and riddled with the ‘tism.
I try so hard to like your videos but jfc
Do you like any games? Does anything meet or exceed your refined tastes?
Will Luke respond to the latest Helldivers trailer (I'd love to know his thoughts) or will he squeeze out another Suicide Squad video before release?
It's Kevin Conroy opposite The Janker. Classic.
All i can think about is avengers but on a more grander scale. That game burned me man.
I feel like this is something id like, i know its not for everybody.
I doubt im buying this day one, depending on how im feeling a week or two after this, or even if its just on sale or ps plus etc.
I honestly think people are getting nervous that this is actually gonna be a good game and actually succeed and find a dedicated fan base and people are going to be a position to keep hating or play the game and actually say ok we were wrong just my take
With all these colours onscreen, I'd expect there's gonna be colour coded enemies tied to your character. So some are more/less buffed against you when fighting them.
I feel sad I remember games being £20-£30 and stories had you unlock outfits and weapons without a pass or a paywall. Now we pay £50-£80 and we end up having to get battle passes for unique items 🙄 The gaming industry in 90% of cases forget where they've come from and their own fan base from the past
gotta get that hate out ya heart Luke
Yep
maybe once these companies get their fingers out of our wallets
hey, whenever a game made by a well renowned (singleplayer games) company make a game that is live service and a result of corporate greed, criticism is 100% required because the big wigs has officially started to ruin the company! let's hope Rocksteady comes back from this BUT if people buy it ( I assume you as well) it will be an extremely destructive thing for the company regarding how amazing their previous games ( notably the Arkham series) has been.... stop buying these types of games please.... I don't want Rocksteady to turn into a greedy, money hungry company but the evidence shows it will! It's pretty sad!!!!
Will do once we get good games
@@nicorobin7762companies gotta get paid one way or another for making games, at the end of the day it’s a product just like anything else you buy. Just be thankful rocksteady said u pay for base game and content updates will all be free down the road!
10:46 Dragon's Dogma pawn system
I really like to see this live service style for justice league for example for the post story content they could add non main justice league members like atom,hawk man,green arrow and...
marvel avengers problem was the UI if the UI was formatted well it could have been more popular
It feels like a bad faith take but the fact they're ALREADY talking about post-launch content on a game they barely even want to admit is live-service feels like they already gave up on the game selling itself. Like having a tiny teaser wouldn't have hurt but they're basically showing the whole plan for season 1 a week before launch.
To get players invested in the game to know there’s more to it..?
I really like the game's presentation. The character models, the cutscenes, the dialogue are all appealing to me. The gameplay is still not convincing though.
Well the gameplay part in a GAME is pretty important
@@anotherhappylanding4746 Exactly.
Not me being excited for SSKTJL and the Elden ring dlc... my poor bank
Isn't this the exact same scenario that went on in injustice 2? But instead of the Injustice story
It's it's a suicide squad story. Cause both of them involve the Multi verse and brainiac trying to take control of the Earth.
While a Separate story which is either the suicide squad or injustice story line happened on the sideline.
Man, if the single player element of this game was just linear, not jumpy / floaty and even mostly melee combat focused with the story elements the same, but also had what the whole game looks like now as a add on multiplayer component.. this game would probably be a 10/10. I know that might've been a lot to focus on, but put way less resources into this multiplayer style game play (but still have it) and focus on a linear melee driven Suicide Squad game, they probably would have a top 10 game this year.
Sounds unambitious.
Ohhhhh Luuuuuuke, read the room. What did I tell you was going to happen? People were going to get sick and tired of this played out “video game bad, let’s trash it and convince everyone not to buy it.” People have their own eyes and this game no longer looks like it’s just about shooting purple enemies now does it?
Tbh, most of your content is rage bait. Time for a new shtick bud.
This constant notion of "shooting purple guys for hour and hours" as a bad thing is kind of pointless when you realize that the game is literally a looter SHOOTER. Every single looter shooter on the market has the player shooting/killing hundreds/thousands of similar enemy types throughout the entire gameplay loop, with mini bosses, and main bosses thrown in. Borderlands has the bandits, skags, rakks,....etc, division has the street gangs, drones, named bosses,....etc, Destiny has the same handful of enemy factions and their variants the player is shooting their way through,.....etc. Its the nature of the genre and has been since its popularity with the Borderlands series.
Also they have already talked about enemy variants in the steam with Lupo and the others, that will be in the base game not just the next season (such as flash infused enemies that zip around the map). So while I agree more enemy variety in a looter shooter is always a good thing, the game is about shooting so obviously if you don't want to spend hundreds of hours shooting similar enemies for the entire time then the entire genre was never for you in the first place.
I'm kind of tired of people looking at looter shooters with the lens of other genres, rather then looking at them and realizing that 99% of the gameplay is SHOOTING (duh), its in the name of the genre lol.
Your chat has taken “be skeptical” and made it “shit on everything immediately.” We saw and heard like 2 seconds of Joker and he seems fine. People need to accept that new actors are going to play Joker and quit crying that it isn’t Mark Hamill.
the fact that every DLC will be free is good, yes, but the "avengers vibes" are still here.
Games failing is bad for both the developers and the players, i never expected a new arkham game and i still hope this game turns out to be at least a "DC themed" sunset overdrive.
what i expected, though, was more focus on melee. i like the shooting focus but it's a bit weird that rocksteady (the pioneers of free-flow) gave the characters one melee attack each. it would have been cool to see a mixture of freeflow combat with shooting mechanics: potentially an original, really cool thing.
The Moment they gave guns to melee characters, especially some that DON'T EVEN HAVE REAL HANDS they lost me and confirmed this game is a joke and will be stillborn
You see the strong influence of Sweet Baby Inc. in this Joker design (and in the whole game)
Being a Looter Shooter, I would expect the reviews to be reviews in progress because of it being an on going game as service. That's been the way most outlets have done it lately.
I was staring at the chat there is NO WAY Dekuworld and CM weren't paid chatters. They were glazing this game an unrealistic amount. Either they're paid or children and I hate saying people were paid to support a game 😂
I think the game looks fun 🤷♂️
And I really wasn't convinced at first
yikes well ig they gotta make money some how
cant even have interest in a game anymore lol why do you guys care so much if someone wants a game
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Endgame kind of reminds me of Chaos rifts from Tiny Tina's Wonderlands, hopefully its more than that cuz they got boring fast. Im still excited to play as Joker though (except his voice)
18:18 Idk if its just me, but why does Joker built like a Hazbin Hotel character?
Developer - *says something simple that we all immediately understood*
Luke - let me pause the video and mansplain this to everyone for 20 minutes despite the fact that literally nobody needed the explanation l
I like how Joker sounds and I like how he moves around in fights. The jet-umbrella is cool. I don’t like how he looks though. Maybe it’s the default outfit that’s trash, but he just looks awkward. He looks like they tried to make Joker into the Trickster from DBD because he got super popular, especially amongst other kpop fans cuz he looks a lot like this guy from ATEEZ
to be fair shroud this isnt the type of games shroud would normally play ,
The hate doesn't seem justified were to defensive because of other games but honestly this game has been upfront with is very detailed might I add and so far everything they said involving life service is actually a huge leap for the genre like the free content and no paid content minus the pre order cosmetic
They expect ppl to play this game for yrs, but we got like 6 other big titles coming out & GTA Vl next yr 💁🏿 everybody at Rocksteady needs to sit back down & do the math
I hope it's awesome, too. It's coming around I think, like at first it was looking like a mess but they're starting to finally get to telling us the core of the game. This stuff clicks with me, I've put 100s of hours into Destiny, so I love shooter combat that lets you break it up with some melee and the idea of having this indirect pvp is cool. The problem to me is still the end game, like if end game is literally just chasing scoreboards, fashion and waiting on new character drops, that's not going to keep people playing. But all of this stuff being free and not being taken away is actually a step in the right direction, coming from being used to Bungie's model with Destiny.
well like destiny it's gonna come down to the loot mostly
@@ipunchedu8884 Destiny has raids and dungeons, though. Maybe this game will have something like that but it sounds more like the Avengers.
@@jqwright28 yea btu why do you keep coming back for the dungeons and raids ( at least i do) to get the loot
Honestly I’m disappointed that they couldn’t get mark hamill to voice joker and his new voice I’m still not sold on regardless this will probably be my main game until it dies because I genuinely like it and if you have a different opinion then mine then that’s your opinion I ain’t gonna argue with people who hate this game because honestly that’s a waste of my time that could be spent otherwise playing games and doing things I love
I’m pretty sure even if they tried, he still won’t voice joker because of Kevin death.
They definitely intended to charge for everything then saw the hate and did a quick 180. I'm still very skeptical and as soon as the "looter shooter" shit comes in, it's a giant blah pass
Pretty sure the umbrella is the penguins thing.
Idk, Luke has been talking a lot of shit about this game but the more they reveal, the more interested I am. We're going back to Arkham at some point? Come on now...we're gonna have more characters coming too. It's definitely not the game I wanted from Rocksteady, but I'm not ready to write it off yet.
P. S. "Where have I seen him (Jason f*cking Isaacs) from?" is the most unintentionally funny moment of this video. How do you not know Jason Isaacs from any one of 40 movies? 😅
Totally agree
Oh my god, this is going to suck. Holy shit.
Why?
@@lordyoda9382 Take your pick between the noncommittal overplayed multiverse bullshit for the campaign to explain away the controversial story elements, the generic looter-shooter grindfest gameplay, or the fact that the devs keep trying to underplay the fact that this game is going to be a live-service title. That last one in particular is a *massive* red flag for anyone who has been paying attention to how these games live and die.
Joker looks more like the jokester
I'm definitely gonna buy and play this. I love the DC universe and looter shooters for me this game is straight up my alley. feel bad for the people that probably wont enjoy it.
I don't think people who play good looter shooters will feel bad not picking this up but whatever you say 😅
This seems like it’ll be like the avengers, I kinda liked the story to the avengers but the main gameplay loop was boring
I feel like it’ll be cheap fast so I’ll wait for that unless I start hearing fantastic things, alpha felt pretty smooth and I kinda liked what I played but not enough to really hook me
hey look another streamer jumping on the hate train without knowing what they're talking about. it's so amazing the gaming community got to this point where we're rooting for games to fail before they're even released yet. where did it go wrong, i don't know, but the gaming community is at an all time low
20:30 How can you own a game that's online only and is going to be unplayable when it inevitably flops and has its servers shut down? You fucking can't and i feel like barfing when they try to play into the "Ownership" and "No battle pass locked content" like that's such a big selling point. Could've easily been a single player story game with online co op mode and if it was a good game and they wanted to keep investing into it no one would object to buying a 40$ or hell even a 60$ DLC like Destiny does.
I only paid £36 for Suicide squad on PS5 disc. That is a bargain
A studio trying to convince the audience to play the endgame content is laughable. We can decide wether we want ti continue playing or not thanks
Take a shot every time they say "Squad"
Crazy how their hook for you is joker dlc after a month of the game being out... Hm.
Umm no you can’t get it anywhere else. The way you get health back, the way you counter shot. Name another game? Thought so.
Joker looks fun to use
Well, i know what i'm playing on February 2nd - Persona 3.
It's the DC version of Marvels Avengers. It clearly demonstrates that publishers aren't capable of learning, even from other publishers catastrophic mistakes.
Rocksteady wanted to make this game. More or less move to a different direction
@@bwhere45 those same cofounders also were apart of the direction of the game to the state we are currently at. They left as they wanted to focus on other things maybe no longer superheroes? As the main focus will seemingly be this game and its live service which they don’t really need them for. Lots of games like this, does this. Sefton hill himself has expressed for a long time of wanting to do something different in the industry since Knight. The interviews are there.
@@bwhere45 you misinterpret. Their work is already done. Not as a cofounder but apart of the games direction. The work is done. The game is done. He is done. Him leaving doesn’t indicate the quality of the game.
i’m not gonna lie I kinda wish they made a Legion of doom game I guess we kind of had one with DC Lego villains but like a more mature story
So that's what the game director looks like.
I can safe say that I now understand completely why the game is like it is.