First Look at the Smith & Wesson M&P Compact 2.0 (versus the Gen 5 Glock 19)
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2017
- Tonight on TFBTV: A Saturday Night Special (feature) as we take a look at the brand new Smith & Wesson M&P Compact 2.0. This gun is an upgrade to the S&W M&P Compact 1.0 and it's gunning for the Glock 19's sport as the most revered 15+1 9mm compact pistol on the market. Fortunately, James has not only the M&P9c 2.0, but the M&P 9 Compact 1.0 and the Gen5 Glock 19 to compare against the 2.0. In this special episode, James evaluates these three guns - size, weight, trigger, ergonomics, mechanics, price, and more.
Clearly, the 2.0 Compact is in direct competition with the Glock 19: The dimensions and capacity are identical, and of course both are striker-fired, polymer framed guns...but the M&P costs $100 less.
So do you get what you pay for or is the M&P 9c 2.0 superior to what some people consider an obsolete or incomplete Gen 5 Glock 19? James tells you, and only on TFBTV. - Спорт
$100 less RRP and comes with good quality sights. S&W is showing Glock who wears the tight short shorts in the house with this one.
When S&Ws M&P gets adopted by a lot of military units and gets away from that flimsy trigger,then you might have a argument worth debating.
Who brought up military contracts? This is aimed at civilian and law enforcement, with many departments adopting it. Stop creating and answering your own arguments.
akmarksman glocks come with plastic crap sights. The trigger on the 2.0 is fine. And it comes with steel sights.
+akmarksman - You mean like the Sig P320?
It sounds like S&W listened to the Glock customers more than Glock did lol, I think I've been hearing about the sights and slide serrations complaints FOR YEARS.
I put it down to Austrian arrogance!
Extremely great and meticulous review.
that drone zoom was amazing James 👍
I run the SW 9c with Hyve +3 mag extentions.I also stippled it very lightly in the grip textured areas and kept it so it looks stock, it completely changed the feel of the gun, I love it!!
Always great videos! Thanks for sharing!
I just bought mine yesterday. I can't wait to get it out to the range! James, as usual, a very fine video full of good information. Cheers, brother!
Did they not have a shmedium grip for James to match his shirt size?
Very informative. Thank you!
You did leave 1-thing out. S&W Made in USA.
"S&W Made in USA." ... so ?
@@mikeng.4121 So, you must be one of " Those."
So are some Glocks, basically all FN America pistols, all Sigs sold in the US now, and even some Taurus's. It's not really that special anymore.
Another great vid James. Look forward to owning one myself.
Looking forward to the full review!
Thanks Jim.
Loving your vids James! This is my favorite gun channel for sure!
+Cole Scheck thanks, Cole!
Finally someone showed the 15 round mag in the old MP9C. I see myself just getting some 15 round mags instead of dropping $450
Dropping the 15-round mag in my gen1 compact was the first thing I tried, and as James pointed out, the sleeve isn't long enough to fill the whole gap. I thought about just getting mags also, but now that I've got the 2.0 compact, it was well worth it for the trigger and the grip, to me.
Don Wallace my wife probably wouldn’t agree with you on that lol
NO! Trade in your 1.0 so bottom feeding used gun buyers like me can snap it up! Looking forward to a plethora of Gen 3 & 4 used Glocks on the cheap. too.
Great review.thanks
You just sold me on the m&p 2.0 great comparison vid thanks
i went with m2.0 it was 506 out the door, coulda saved money online but trying to support local business. im happy with it. the blue end of the spring was opposite on my gun but. i like the grip extension too. feels like a full size too.
I honestly hate they made it larger and more like the glock19. I liked how the original was inbetween the glock 19 and glock 26. I think it was just a great balance. More concealable that glock 19 higher capacity than glock 26. I hope they offer a smaller 2.0 about the size of the original
Lyle Bonney The Shield is dimensionally identical to the original M&P Compact, except for the width, which meant that the Shield and original Compact were poaching sales from one another. I think S&W is (wisely) re-aligning their offerings to more clearly differentiate the Compact vs Shield, while coming straight at the Glock 19's mantle with teeth bared. Also, fwiw it doesn't look like S&W is discontinuing the first-generation models for the moment (don't quote me on that)
Lyle...they just released the M2.0 in the sub compact...and the Shield 9 (the 45 Shield already was M2.0 configuration). The compact isn't larger than the 19; I have both. They really are the same size.
I agree I love the balance in between. This is why I have a Springfield XD9sc 13+1 in a smaller size. I was THIS CLOSE to buying an m&p compact. Both great.
Own both my EDC M&P 2.0 Compact. Since this video was made M&P 2.0 Compact retails for $569, mines came with a stock trigger which averages 5.4 lbs. on the Wheeler Pro digital Trigger Gauge.
*Opens' case for the first time at home.*
*Sees' his beautiful new pistol, sees' the big brothers' imprint within it with the threaded muzzle that S&W purposely put their to guilt you.*
.........
*Brings back to dealer to pick up the Threaded version with a can.*
Just grabbed one of these as my first carry gun. Apex trigger and Ameriglo night sights. Happy 18th to me.
Gorgeous gun!
looks are so important when it comes to a pistol, and the internal lock is a special feature as well!
Wait ! how is the glock better ? .. oh ya ! it's NOT !!
Josh B Nah, I’ve seen several you tubers and read plenty of reviews with the SW compact has jamming issues. I still don’t think smith and Wesson is as reliable.
Dave Lpz The 2.0 compact or full size ? what video? what youtuber ?
Backwoodsboy405 the hostility, lol
+Josh B Glock's not a jam-o-matic like S&W, but the Smith has an internal lock, and that's a valuable feature!
seth tenrec I haven't heard of any large scale issues with the 2.0 ... what do you mean internal lock ?? as in the safety? I wouldn't carry a striker fired handgun with a safety ,thankfully they offer the 2.0 both ways .. these are both great guns ,top tier
Jim you got the information.
Traded my G19 in on one of these. With the safety.
Can't wait to get one of these new M&P's in my hands.
i almost didn't click on this video but im glad i did end up clicking on it ....i could always count on tfb for some of the best firearms content!!
Only issue on my 2.0 Compact is that the left side slide stop is not a slide release. This is due to a combination of the stiffer right side stop catch mechanism and flex in the left side release arm, so not an easy fix. Not a problem for right handers though.
You brushed over the beveling of the chamber opening on the slide to reduce "stove piping" and you missed mentioning the wider feed ramp on the barrel.
Fun fact, you can put the 1.0 slide on a 2.0 frame, and put a 2.0 frame on a 1.0 frame.
Been kinda patiently waiting and hoping that they'll release a subcompact version in similar dimensions to the 1.0. Already have plenty of guns that fit the compact's size and attributes, and have finally reached the point where the original compact's short but full grip and the longer-than-pea-sized barrel make sense to my carry needs.
They are such good looking guns
That was a cool zoom shot with the drone. Somehow you need to manipulate the zoom and get the Jaws vertigo effect.
Yes! The only thing Glock has on S&W now at this point is magazine availability. The $450 price is hard to beat but unlike Glock, S&W is always offering rebates and I wouldn't be surprised to see these go as low as $399 at times. I am definitely a Glock fan but I'm an even bigger M&P fan, S&W just rocks.
Hey man. Thanks for seeing if the magazine on the original compact. I've been wondering about that. Going to get one the m2.0 compact magazine and see if I CNT make it fit with one of the original x-grips by taking it down
I have been carrying my Glock 19 Gen 4 for over a year now but when the M&P 2.0 compact came out I bought one and my oh my. Everything wrong with the Glock has been fixed by S&W. What a gun! It is my EDC now. The Glock 19 Gen 5 is not as good as the Gen 4.
areyouready22 same here except I carried the g19 for 4 years
Great video James I look forward to owning one. Oh shit I forgot I live in California so I won't be able to.
LOL
but also not LOL
Man I’m excited found one for $425 shipped and plus the summer $75 rebate.
The M&P Compact 2.0 is joining my collection when they make a FDE version.
Smith needs to get more FDE on the market. I don't know why they don't push that harder. I want the 5" FDE, but if they come out with the Compact in FDE I'm in
Greg Mason Absolutely, they also need to come out with more models that are cut for optics.
chrisloUSA if they cut this for an optic like the CORE they would fly off the shelves. It’s $200ish at most places to do slide work for the old MP9c, and then it’s stuck to one optic
dustinmcd91 Absolutely, I hope we don't have to wait 12 years for that, now is the time.
+dustinmcd91 no one wants to waste money putting an optic on a second-rate gun
I'm starting to like the M&Ps, too bad we can't get them in CA anymore. At least I bought the M&P 22CA when I did though.
Di.... did you just use a drone to get a shot of a m&p on a sidewalk?!?!
*Looks Left*
*Looks right*
CZ-75 IS THE BEST GUN OF ALL TIME
;)
AGREED
Testify!
All these people arguing about ergonomics and not a mention of the P-07 in sight. Someday they'll see the light.
P07 is awesome and feels amazing but I have to agree the CZ75 shoots best for me. I'm actually even better with the Israel version the Jericho all steel but honestly life would be easier if I could drink the Koolaid and go Glock. Amazing aftermarket, and pretty decent at everything.
Finally, a reason to get an M&P. If they would just ditch that funky trigger.
I want both.
Absolutely love my 2.0 compact.
started carrying a glock 19 when I 1st got my permit, it was always an ok gun for me. Reliable, absolutely but I was one that didn't enjoy the ergonomics, the 2.0 compact has been reliable and is much more enjoyable to shoot. So far it has been a better pistol than the 19.
Front slide serrations, 3 dot metal sights, aggressive grip texture, better styling, and possibly the best difference; it has a more traditional grip angle! The grip angle for the Glock is the largest No-Go for me, followed by the plastic, basket sights, and the higher price. Other than the price, it’s all subjective, but the S&W is far better in my mind!
Sights, better rail, steel reinforcement, trigger, ergonomics, and 20% cheaper: there is no comparison. . . . except to Glock cultists.
King Baldwin IV Is it as reliable? That’s the big question.
Dave Lpz It was the first pistol that failed out of the MHS competition, so signs point to no
+Kataquan 👍👍👍 exactly
Dave Lpz, yes, yes it is. I read the Glock talk and other discussion groups. Glocks have plenty of dysfunctions when Glock people are hufdled together and don't think that other people are listening. They also start talking about the real aggregate cost of their perfect pistol.
Add a new trigger, sights, slide release, grips, barrel, etc. and you are approaching $1000 for something you could buy off the shelf for 60% of the cost.
Buying a Glock is usually a mistake, but is a common one.
Dave Lpz yes 100%
Looks like a better Glock. I prefer extra textured grips because if your actually in a andrenaline rush situation such as home/street defense your hands get sweaty to the point you can drop your expensive equipment. So s&w gets my vote especially since they have been making guns for one of the longest times.
Seldom see it come up, but price is a consideration for us non operators. Considering the Glock 43 vs M&P Shield. Well after rebate the shield was $299 with 2 mags. Guess which one I purchased. Respect to both, but when it's apples to apples price is the tie breaker.
elk hunter, you are dead on right. For those of us that are not buying 10 pistols this year, cost-benefit makes the decision.
I was tempted to get the shield, then the PPS, but the shield seems to be cheaply made. I’ve seen not so great things about the PPS. So I just got a G43.
apples to rotten apples
Where did you get your green triggers from?
Next on the list.
I might get one but I love my 1.0
Where can we get the patch?
I'm looking to buy my first ever firearm and I think I've narrowed my search down to these 4 pistols(9mm):
1. HK VP9 (Is there a compact?)
2. S&W M&P9 2.0c (Great price!)
3. Beretta APXc (It's growing on me)
4. Sig Sauer P320c (won the military contract but had problems what???).....
.....(Runner ups): Glock 19 Gen5 or SA XD9 Mod.2.
But let's stick with my top 4. So it looks like I could fall in love with any of these wonderful firearms but which of these would you choose for your first ever handgun?
Also, any reviews or comparisons of these 4 badass pistols in the near future?
Someone needs to compare the 2.0 Compact to the Sig P320 Carry
How do you carry james? I live in the south and any tips on how you manage to carry any doublestack pistol in hot humid weather would be awesome
Nate, I'm doing a video on it eventually. I have five methods that I use for summer weather, none of which involve concealing in my prison wallet. - James
TFB TV awesome, thanks james
I see you own a drone now
I think that S&W is making a smart move with this, but I’ll be taking a pass. I liked the version 1.0, but not enough to keep me for selling it and getting a Glock 26. I love my Shield though, and I look forward to seeing a Shield 2.0 if one is forthcoming.
Shoot the 2.0 and I promise you will change your mind.
Shield 2.0 specs and photos are being leaked
There is...check around
Hey James what kind of sunglasses do you normally wear in your videos? Im looking to get a pair and I really like those...
+Patrick Cygan hey Patrick, they are Electric Knoxville frames with ballistic prescription lenses installed by tactical RX. Thanks for watching, brother.
Woah thanks for the reply! Definitely gonna pick up a pair sometime...
Favorite compact pistol nerd
James said he likes something on a S&W better than a Glock. He said it several times in fact. So, is he still a Glock fanboy? I can hear people typing the "Typical James, Smith & Wesson fanboy" comments being drafted now.
Great review James.
Does the magazine adapters fit the 1.0 with longer mag.
Scoobydoo 39 there will still be a gap bc the adapter is for 2 more rounds but there is 3 more (or 5 for full size mags) between the 1.0 and 2.0
Im truely excited about the new m&p compact might have to get one to go with my sig p320 and i still like the p320 better than stinkie glocks
IMO, comparing apples to apples almost always comes down to personal preference or nitpicks.
I'd be more interested in general comparisons, like in this case - a Colt Defender, S&W 3913, and a Glock 19.
Compact showdown. Cz 10c vs sig p320c vs m&p 2.0 compact vs gen 5 glock 19.
They should make a 10mm model
My take away from this video is that my gun would look cooler with a green trigger. Thanks James.
I think its fair to say that you will save $200. The plastic sights on the glock will shift or pop off eventually. Especially if you train one handed reloads.
I hestate between glock and M&P for my first handgun.
The m&p 2.0
Or the glock17FR
Do they put this out in 45?
Any holsters available for the m2.0 compact??? Ive been looking around and cant seem to find any. :(
GearNut23 t Rex arms
Alpha Concealment will hook you right up.
Loosing you occasionally with the single camera set-up, maybe a two camera setup the next time? (I know that makes it a little less quick in post so a little longer editing time overall, but you will have more chance of catching all the views you want.)
This is not S&W first G19 size pistol. This is the first one in the M&P line up. But they always had a G19 size pistol.
The only thing I dont like about the gun is that the front seems to be mangled with gouges and holes in the frame and slide.
James how many guns do you carry on average?
Oi. The magazine baseplate is the over travel stop. On fast reloads, you will bash and bend the ejector. Use mag sleeves!!!
before I see the video I know the result would be glock wins. when tfb made up that specific test to bash sig for winning the army contract，I knew who is behind all this already. right after that video glock announced new gen. what a sales plan. good job
Cause a cop totally didn't get shot by a dropped SIG P320 in his duty holster..
Maybe you missed the memo that said the MHS contract handgun has a MANUAL SAFETY LEVER..
Your troll level is good,or you are that ignorant.
Needs more cowbell.
Is there somewhere I can buy the TFB patch?
We are working on a web store. Right now, the only way to get one is through Patreon. I am sorry, trying to get that rectified soon! - James
I think you got the Glock Gen 5's weight slightly wrong. According to the website it's 23.99 oz, not 23.65 oz. You may have been looking at the Gen 4 weight which is listed as 23.65 oz.
Glock should change their design more from the factory Imo if they want to stay on top. Better/redesigned stippling, cuts in the slide. Stock steel sights. And be a game changer and take it too 16+1 in the same size frame/magazine. Three out of the box. If they offered a Glock like that for 550 out the door I'd take it. But M&p is such a better bargain in reality.
Do I need this "new" size if I already have a 4" SD9VE?
that was my take on another channel. the glock 19 sized smith & wesson has been here all along. with the inexpensive modifications, its every bit as good as the Glock or the 2.0. In fact, the 2.0 looks alot like a sdve with a black slide.
I'm convinced that S&W is using the SDVE line as a loss leader. Its working for them too.
Can't really call front serrations an added benefit, since no one ever uses them except range operators. The $100 savings is really the big story here.
Semper Fi
James i love how you don't have room in your pants for a compact pistol soccer moms must love it...Damn it FBI's kicking in my door for that Comment
Another great feature rich factory pistol on the market for $500. Imagine what a feature rich factory Glock would cost...with a great trigger lol
Are the gen 3's still being sold from factory?
Yes, Gen 3 Glocks are still being produced and sold. - Patrick
Gen 3 and Gen 4 still being produced. I like the adjustable back strap and the Extra Magazine (3rd) with the Gen 4.
Have to say, the M&P compact kicks Glock 19 ass for so many reasons, although I like the 19 as well..
I will say I like the m&p ergos better I just shoot glocks better have more invested in glock and just don't see that much benefit over the 19...I'm still just fine with a gen 3 myself
I personally a g43 guy myself though and since they ets mags have came out to give me 9 and 12 round reloads, I carry my 43 ALOT more now
0:04 you dropped your gun dude don't worry I found it on google street view.
Needs more shorts.
The grip on the 2.0 will tear you up if you carry iwb without an undershirt. Be warned
The M&P is the same thing plus extra for $100 cheaper.
M&p is a glock, just with nicer features and more aesthetic appeal.
polymer sights - i only hear the criticism, that its only a plastic... but have someone ever had any problem with the sights only becasuse they are made of plastic???
What's with the tape?
+Quintus Aurelius Symmachus watch the video
TFB TV must've been a part I missed.
You have to tape the triggers in order to get an accurate read. Both guns have trigger safeties. - James
TFB TV fuck. I should've been able to guess that. I'm not a smart man, but I know what trigger safeties is.
Would have been so funny if a black hand grabbed that pistol at 0:07!
Hey a compact pistol and a guy with compact tooty shorts!!
Glock is the Apple and Toyota of guns. Everyone says they're inferior yet every manufacturer copies their products.
CZ CZ!!!