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I owned this base for a year, it was a pleasure to use and never gave me an issue! Fantastic base ! I have just upgraded to a direct drive but if I had to go back to this base i wouldn't mind at all ! Force feedback is tremendous, detail is amazing...Nothing wrong with the TS -XW!
Hi Billy. I never said that is anything wrong with it, on the contrary i said it is impressive, but given the actual market and price point it is not worth buying it, when in the same price range you can get the Moza R5 or the Fanatec GT DD, or CSL DD.
@@JulianNDL well I agree to a point but when you buy this base now with a sparco mod wheel, it's around 600 ..with that wheel I feel it's a good bargain , it does have a bit over 6NM which is plenty strong IMO ....But I see the point also that a person may as well just buy DD ! But I wouldn't bother with say the Moza R5 that's not much of an upgrade imo ..To make it worth while I would go at least 10nm and above .But again for a belt driven wheel it's the best out there! And I also agree there method of wheel attachment is far outdated , especially that stupid screw ! For me however , I don't change wheels really so it wasn't an issue . Anyway as I said , I upgraded to a DD and I'm very happy ! I went with the T818 because I already had rims .It's been great so far ! Happy Racing !
@@billynolanjr2266 Owning all 4 (t300, ts-xw, r5 and dd pro 8nm) of them i can surely say that Moza R5 is not just an upgrade from the TS-XW but a huge one. Starting from materials, build quality, feeling, ffb, level of details, and so on to the quick release solution. Even though on paper the TS-XW has more ffb power, in real life Moza R5 is at least 30% more powerful than TS-XW, smoother, faster. But more about all of these in my next Time Battle video where i will compare all 4 of them.
@markweatherall7437 Unfortunately, no. Exactly the main topic in the comments section of my videos at the moment. I don't understand why all these manufacturers keep ignoring console players. Actually, Moza released the R3, which is only xbox compatible, and the compatibility comes from the steering wheel. So, if you own an R3 and an R5 or R9, you could make them xbox compatible using the R3 steering wheel, which for now can't be bought separately.
I am sorry but that is no reason to spend 500 euros/dollars/pounds on an really old wheel, with an even older QR system, with almost no accessories and a bunch of old steering wheels. With bo decent pedals, etc. Yes, it is still a good wheel but, can't deny that, but it is like spending 50k on an old Vw Golf 3 or waiting a bit and buy the latest Passat, or Merc.
And funny enough i bought from my own pocket the GT DD Pro, the R5 and the R9. So you cand find them online and buy them! Yes, i waited like a month for the GT DD Pro, but it was well worth it.
@@JulianNDL to import in my country any other wheel i need to add extra 40% - 50% on importing fees taxes and rediculous shipping fees which also get included into import tax, 1000€ + 100€ minimum shipping for fanatec setup would cost me additional 500€ if not more to arrive to my door step Thrustmaster in this case is much better value
Hi I never had a wheel before and really want to get one I found this wheel base with a the leather 28 gt wheel and the t3pm pedals and it all looks to in good condition for 350$ should I get it
If you’re planning to do PC playing, I would not recommend it. You can get the Fanatec CSL DD or the Moza R5 for around the same price. They’re direct drive wheelbases, offer better force feedback, better details, and both are new, unlike the old ts-xw.
@@JulianNDL yeah the more reason why I was on the thrust master side was because that I’m on Xbox and I was trying to find a Moza R3 and I couldn’t find one because it’s so new and everyone has it right now
don't buy it in 2023 of course, but for the time it has been released (2016) this wheel base was a monster, probably better than the old belt driven CSL Elite 1.1.
I notice you say don't buy it because there are better options available for the same price TM are charging for this wheel. And yes i 100% agree with you on that one. The trouble is i am a console player and unfortunately there is only 1 real option to buy a DD base and that is fanatec and they are having real issues delivering them to the UK when they say. So for console players i think this is a great wheel base especially if your already in the TM Eco system. I think i will be purchasing this base as i am not going to spend £1400 on the Logitec DD base with pedals and fanatec are just not reliable enough with QC and delivery time to purchase. I just wish you would specify that you are meaning PC players when you say don't buy it. Console have not many options
I did this video more than half a year ago. Back then, the only option for console players was the GT DD Pro. And the price was high, even for the 5nm option. Since then, they lowered their prices so much that yes, now, for the amount that the TS-XW costs, you can buy a Fanatec. The TS-XW is not a bad wheelbase. It's the only belt/gear driven wheel base that I liked and was strong enough, but it costs way too much for what it is, what it offers, and for its build quality and materials. Yes, it's a valid point with delivery times, and to be honest, I have no idea what's the delivery time now with Fanatec, but, if you ask me, I would wait longer for the Fanatec rather than buying the TS-XW. And, like you said, you don't want to have a day without a wheel, I get that you play on a daily basis racing games, so you're not a casual player. When I preordered my GT DD Pro, delivery time was around 3 months, but I received it after just one month.
@@JulianNDLfirst off thanks for the reply. I will be honest with my friend I am so torn by this. I really really want to have a fanatec but I am going to have to sell my t300 to part fund the fanatec but it's just the wait that will kill me without the wheel. But on the other hand I am not going to be in a position to be able to afford to get a fanatec for a very long time. So I am going to have to give it some thought to get the TSXW in a couple days (which would still be an improvement on the t300) or take a risk and have to wait 2 months for the fanatec. I think I may just bite the bullet and get the fanatec. Thanks for the reply and the videos
I totally understand it! I've been through this so many times, and I can say that i got to the conclusion that it is better to get the best I can afford even though that means to wait for it rather than to make compromises, because even though you'll get the TS-XW right now, in a few weeks-months for sure you'll want a DD and yes, you can sell the TS-XW, but you'll lose some money doing that.
@@JulianNDL and also I wouldn't have the cash to make up the rest of it later down the line. Screw it I am going to just bite the bullet and go buy the fanatec tomorrow. Hopefully it will arrive before Christmas🤣. Thanks for the advice
I looked at this wheel for a bit and just couldn't see a reason to purchase it. Once Micro Center started carrying Moza products it was a no brainer to go with them as any issues I have a brick and mortar store I can return it to. Also the quick connect on the Moza is about as good as they get 😁
You're absolutely right. I think once Moza introduced the R5 and also Fanatec the entry version of GT DD PRO or CSL DD, they killed all the belt and gear driven wheels. I see absolutely no reason why one should buy a belt driven wheel, even more at this price range, which is high, to be honest.
@@JulianNDL It makes you wonder where they get the 6NM number from? I did the math for a 280mm wheel the R5 should put out 8.83lbs of force at the wheels edge. I swear it's more than that as I have 20lbs of weight plus a monitor the wheel ect. on a small table and it can shake the whole setup like crazy in certain situations 😂😂
@@jimbonater My guess (noob one) is that it is losing power through the belt system. Because even the T300 has around 4 -4.5 nm, which should be close to the R5 and you can never compare the two. :)))
@Poobear09 It's the best belt/gear steering wheel I owned/tested so far. Now, about buying it. It depends on your budged and on what you are planning to use it. If you're on PC, i would not buy it. It is old, it has outdated technology and it is quite expensive. For the same amount, you can buy a CSL DD Rady2Race, a Moza R5 bundle, or even I would save some more and get the R9. Now, if you are a console player, yes, it is a good option at the moment because there is not one cheap DD option for consoles.
As all thrumaster products this is pure shit. Mine broken after 2 years, sensor issue and goes crazy, loosing ffb and with blocked motor. A pure single shit shipped from France. Fanatec and Moza are cheaper and totally in another league. This is a toy.
I still have it,for the event my fanatec brakes...the time i used it was very nice, with the tlcm pedals and the shifter i still use with pc, cause it is better than the fanatec shifter(never misses a gear). I bought the fanatec just out of curiosity what was the feeling of a dd wheelbase, and also with fanatec could stop using the collective minds adapter everytime i want to change from xbox to pc or ps. If not, would still use the ts-xw. I don't see the reason to not buy it today, if someone is already on thrustmaster and want an aproach to the dd pro, this is it. Just needs the base, nothing else.
It is definitely not worth buying it today for 500 bucks! It's way expensive and the reasons are a lot! It's not a DD first, for such a high price, it's build quality it's worse than Fanatec's or Moza's (completely plastic), even though it's a powerfull wheelbase it FFB details can't be compared to te ones of a DD wheel, being a belt/gear driven base it's not as smooth, it's not as fast and responsive as a DD wheel, it's QR system is a joke, it does not have so many wheel options, and most of all it's an old system and nobody is going to invest in it anymore. Basically, everything you buy for it is obsolete. These bein said, yes, it's a good wheel base. It was amazing back in the days, but today, it's just old and outdated, but still can deliver.
I keep using this comparation, but it is like buying today a VW Golf mkIII for the money you can buy the latest VW Golf. It doesn't make the MKIII, but you can justify buying it instead of the latest one, except if you're a cars collector.
@@JulianNDL ok, it's your opinion. I feel not much diference between the dd pro and the ts-xw. If i would know what i know now, i would still on ts-xw. Of course I do not know moza or something else than these two.But attention, i am comparing this one with the dd 8 Nm, not even the 5Nm. Ok, you right 500 is bit too much today, but when you have already wheels, and pedals is something you do not need to spend anymore. And as i said, the handbrake sparco is strong and usable, the wheels can be used here can also be used on thrustmaster dd, the shifter h-pattern is better than many on market, the pedals tlcm are the same as the fanatecs basics and many others. It is most in plastic for sure, but holds. There is nothing to invest more as theres nothing to invest more on other systems too... but for sure you can have your oppinion, as i as a user each day of this machine, have my opinion. And i finish here.
Of course it's my opinion. I also still own the TS-XW, and that's why I have this opinion. The Sparco handbrake is decent, also the shifter, indeed, but that's not a reason to buy the TS-XW today. If you already own them, you can use them with a USB hub on other systems, too. When I'm saying it's not worth investing in that system, i'm referring mostly to the wheels, as well as the QR system. Yes, the TLCM pedals are, again, decent but you can't compare them even to the CSL DD pedals and here i' talking about build quality, also for the DD pedals you can always get the load cell kit mod for the money difference you would pay for the TS-XW. Again, I repeat myself, it is a good wheel, but not for 500 bucks! It should cost in today's market, and in my opinion, not more than 300 to even start thinking about buying it.
@Deathcadencia And yes, i totally forgot about the app/software for the TS-XW, which, again, in my opinion, is a joke compared to the ones that Moza or Fanatec have.
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I owned this base for a year, it was a pleasure to use and never gave me an issue! Fantastic base ! I have just upgraded to a direct drive but if I had to go back to this base i wouldn't mind at all ! Force feedback is tremendous, detail is amazing...Nothing wrong with the TS -XW!
Hi Billy. I never said that is anything wrong with it, on the contrary i said it is impressive, but given the actual market and price point it is not worth buying it, when in the same price range you can get the Moza R5 or the Fanatec GT DD, or CSL DD.
@@JulianNDL well I agree to a point but when you buy this base now with a sparco mod wheel, it's around 600 ..with that wheel I feel it's a good bargain , it does have a bit over 6NM which is plenty strong IMO ....But I see the point also that a person may as well just buy DD ! But I wouldn't bother with say the Moza R5 that's not much of an upgrade imo ..To make it worth while I would go at least 10nm and above .But again for a belt driven wheel it's the best out there! And I also agree there method of wheel attachment is far outdated , especially that stupid screw ! For me however , I don't change wheels really so it wasn't an issue . Anyway as I said , I upgraded to a DD and I'm very happy ! I went with the T818 because I already had rims .It's been great so far ! Happy Racing !
@@billynolanjr2266 Owning all 4 (t300, ts-xw, r5 and dd pro 8nm) of them i can surely say that Moza R5 is not just an upgrade from the TS-XW but a huge one. Starting from materials, build quality, feeling, ffb, level of details, and so on to the quick release solution. Even though on paper the TS-XW has more ffb power, in real life Moza R5 is at least 30% more powerful than TS-XW, smoother, faster. But more about all of these in my next Time Battle video where i will compare all 4 of them.
@@JulianNDLIs the Moza R5 Xbox/PS Console Compatible?
@markweatherall7437 Unfortunately, no. Exactly the main topic in the comments section of my videos at the moment. I don't understand why all these manufacturers keep ignoring console players.
Actually, Moza released the R3, which is only xbox compatible, and the compatibility comes from the steering wheel. So, if you own an R3 and an R5 or R9, you could make them xbox compatible using the R3 steering wheel, which for now can't be bought separately.
Its available world wide in retail stores, that reason alone is enough to buy it, Moza Fanatec and etc are not
I am sorry but that is no reason to spend 500 euros/dollars/pounds on an really old wheel, with an even older QR system, with almost no accessories and a bunch of old steering wheels. With bo decent pedals, etc. Yes, it is still a good wheel but, can't deny that, but it is like spending 50k on an old Vw Golf 3 or waiting a bit and buy the latest Passat, or Merc.
And funny enough i bought from my own pocket the GT DD Pro, the R5 and the R9. So you cand find them online and buy them! Yes, i waited like a month for the GT DD Pro, but it was well worth it.
@@JulianNDL to import in my country any other wheel i need to add extra 40% - 50% on importing fees taxes and rediculous shipping fees which also get included into import tax, 1000€ + 100€ minimum shipping for fanatec setup would cost me additional 500€ if not more to arrive to my door step
Thrustmaster in this case is much better value
@@xXxBo5sANaCxXx Which country has 40%-50% import taxes? If that is true, then i understand why no one imports them. Usually it is between 15%-25%.
Just bought it for 250 to use with my already existing alcantara wheel and pedals. So I think it's worth it for that price.
are my T3PM pedals able to to connect with this base?
I’m not 100% sure, but I think they’re compatible.
Yes they are.
I’ve had nothing but fun with this set. No complaints.
I can’t find a direct drive wheel base that’s compatible with X-Box. This wheel base is.
Yes, unfortunately companies don’t care that much about console gaming.
Hi I never had a wheel before and really want to get one I found this wheel base with a the leather 28 gt wheel and the t3pm pedals and it all looks to in good condition for 350$ should I get it
If you’re planning to do PC playing, I would not recommend it. You can get the Fanatec CSL DD or the Moza R5 for around the same price. They’re direct drive wheelbases, offer better force feedback, better details, and both are new, unlike the old ts-xw.
@@JulianNDL yeah the more reason why I was on the thrust master side was because that I’m on Xbox and I was trying to find a Moza R3 and I couldn’t find one because it’s so new and everyone has it right now
Worth it in 2024 ? Can get it for 240€
I think for that price it is ok, if you don’t plan getting into simracing.
don't buy it in 2023 of course, but for the time it has been released (2016) this wheel base was a monster, probably better than the old belt driven CSL Elite 1.1.
Yes, i can't agree with you more! Like I said, it still is impressive, but for 500 bucks, it's so expensive when you can buy cheaper DD wheels.
I buy it and i starting working the week after.... i dont have the time anymore
I notice you say don't buy it because there are better options available for the same price TM are charging for this wheel. And yes i 100% agree with you on that one. The trouble is i am a console player and unfortunately there is only 1 real option to buy a DD base and that is fanatec and they are having real issues delivering them to the UK when they say. So for console players i think this is a great wheel base especially if your already in the TM Eco system. I think i will be purchasing this base as i am not going to spend £1400 on the Logitec DD base with pedals and fanatec are just not reliable enough with QC and delivery time to purchase. I just wish you would specify that you are meaning PC players when you say don't buy it. Console have not many options
I did this video more than half a year ago. Back then, the only option for console players was the GT DD Pro. And the price was high, even for the 5nm option. Since then, they lowered their prices so much that yes, now, for the amount that the TS-XW costs, you can buy a Fanatec.
The TS-XW is not a bad wheelbase. It's the only belt/gear driven wheel base that I liked and was strong enough, but it costs way too much for what it is, what it offers, and for its build quality and materials.
Yes, it's a valid point with delivery times, and to be honest, I have no idea what's the delivery time now with Fanatec, but, if you ask me, I would wait longer for the Fanatec rather than buying the TS-XW. And, like you said, you don't want to have a day without a wheel, I get that you play on a daily basis racing games, so you're not a casual player. When I preordered my GT DD Pro, delivery time was around 3 months, but I received it after just one month.
@@JulianNDLfirst off thanks for the reply. I will be honest with my friend I am so torn by this. I really really want to have a fanatec but I am going to have to sell my t300 to part fund the fanatec but it's just the wait that will kill me without the wheel. But on the other hand I am not going to be in a position to be able to afford to get a fanatec for a very long time. So I am going to have to give it some thought to get the TSXW in a couple days (which would still be an improvement on the t300) or take a risk and have to wait 2 months for the fanatec. I think I may just bite the bullet and get the fanatec. Thanks for the reply and the videos
I totally understand it! I've been through this so many times, and I can say that i got to the conclusion that it is better to get the best I can afford even though that means to wait for it rather than to make compromises, because even though you'll get the TS-XW right now, in a few weeks-months for sure you'll want a DD and yes, you can sell the TS-XW, but you'll lose some money doing that.
@@JulianNDL and also I wouldn't have the cash to make up the rest of it later down the line. Screw it I am going to just bite the bullet and go buy the fanatec tomorrow. Hopefully it will arrive before Christmas🤣. Thanks for the advice
My pleasure, man! You'll enjoy it more after the waiting time. Hehehe. It's worth it.
I looked at this wheel for a bit and just couldn't see a reason to purchase it. Once Micro Center started carrying Moza products it was a no brainer to go with them as any issues I have a brick and mortar store I can return it to. Also the quick connect on the Moza is about as good as they get 😁
You're absolutely right. I think once Moza introduced the R5 and also Fanatec the entry version of GT DD PRO or CSL DD, they killed all the belt and gear driven wheels. I see absolutely no reason why one should buy a belt driven wheel, even more at this price range, which is high, to be honest.
@@JulianNDL Does it feel more powerful than the R5 with 0.5 NM more torque listed 6NM vs 5.5?
@@jimbonater Actually it feels weaker than R5, a bit more powerful, faster, smoother than the T300 but not even close to R5.
@@JulianNDL It makes you wonder where they get the 6NM number from? I did the math for a 280mm wheel the R5 should put out 8.83lbs of force at the wheels edge. I swear it's more than that as I have 20lbs of weight plus a monitor the wheel ect. on a small table and it can shake the whole setup like crazy in certain situations 😂😂
@@jimbonater My guess (noob one) is that it is losing power through the belt system. Because even the T300 has around 4 -4.5 nm, which should be close to the R5 and you can never compare the two. :)))
I bought this base a week ago.
Have you liked it I’m thinking of getting it what are you’re thoughts
@@Poobear09 it's good. Plenty of torque for me.
@Poobear09 It's the best belt/gear steering wheel I owned/tested so far.
Now, about buying it. It depends on your budged and on what you are planning to use it. If you're on PC, i would not buy it. It is old, it has outdated technology and it is quite expensive. For the same amount, you can buy a CSL DD Rady2Race, a Moza R5 bundle, or even I would save some more and get the R9.
Now, if you are a console player, yes, it is a good option at the moment because there is not one cheap DD option for consoles.
I wholeheartedly disagree
I respect that, but I would respect it even more if you would explain why do you disagree.
Yes get a TGT II instead 😎🤙
As all thrumaster products this is pure shit. Mine broken after 2 years, sensor issue and goes crazy, loosing ffb and with blocked motor. A pure single shit shipped from France. Fanatec and Moza are cheaper and totally in another league. This is a toy.
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@@SoMiSongbird you are not a clown you're the entire circus
@@ienabellamy Lmao that was funny I'll give you that
@@SoMiSongbird
I still have it,for the event my fanatec brakes...the time i used it was very nice, with the tlcm pedals and the shifter i still use with pc, cause it is better than the fanatec shifter(never misses a gear). I bought the fanatec just out of curiosity what was the feeling of a dd wheelbase, and also with fanatec could stop using the collective minds adapter everytime i want to change from xbox to pc or ps. If not, would still use the ts-xw. I don't see the reason to not buy it today, if someone is already on thrustmaster and want an aproach to the dd pro, this is it. Just needs the base, nothing else.
It is definitely not worth buying it today for 500 bucks! It's way expensive and the reasons are a lot! It's not a DD first, for such a high price, it's build quality it's worse than Fanatec's or Moza's (completely plastic), even though it's a powerfull wheelbase it FFB details can't be compared to te ones of a DD wheel, being a belt/gear driven base it's not as smooth, it's not as fast and responsive as a DD wheel, it's QR system is a joke, it does not have so many wheel options, and most of all it's an old system and nobody is going to invest in it anymore. Basically, everything you buy for it is obsolete. These bein said, yes, it's a good wheel base. It was amazing back in the days, but today, it's just old and outdated, but still can deliver.
I keep using this comparation, but it is like buying today a VW Golf mkIII for the money you can buy the latest VW Golf. It doesn't make the MKIII, but you can justify buying it instead of the latest one, except if you're a cars collector.
@@JulianNDL ok, it's your opinion. I feel not much diference between the dd pro and the ts-xw. If i would know what i know now, i would still on ts-xw. Of course I do not know moza or something else than these two.But attention, i am comparing this one with the dd 8 Nm, not even the 5Nm. Ok, you right 500 is bit too much today, but when you have already wheels, and pedals is something you do not need to spend anymore. And as i said, the handbrake sparco is strong and usable, the wheels can be used here can also be used on thrustmaster dd, the shifter h-pattern is better than many on market, the pedals tlcm are the same as the fanatecs basics and many others. It is most in plastic for sure, but holds. There is nothing to invest more as theres nothing to invest more on other systems too... but for sure you can have your oppinion, as i as a user each day of this machine, have my opinion. And i finish here.
Of course it's my opinion. I also still own the TS-XW, and that's why I have this opinion. The Sparco handbrake is decent, also the shifter, indeed, but that's not a reason to buy the TS-XW today. If you already own them, you can use them with a USB hub on other systems, too. When I'm saying it's not worth investing in that system, i'm referring mostly to the wheels, as well as the QR system. Yes, the TLCM pedals are, again, decent but you can't compare them even to the CSL DD pedals and here i' talking about build quality, also for the DD pedals you can always get the load cell kit mod for the money difference you would pay for the TS-XW. Again, I repeat myself, it is a good wheel, but not for 500 bucks! It should cost in today's market, and in my opinion, not more than 300 to even start thinking about buying it.
@Deathcadencia And yes, i totally forgot about the app/software for the TS-XW, which, again, in my opinion, is a joke compared to the ones that Moza or Fanatec have.