Does anyone else think its kind of sweet that they keep debating each other? Like after all this time and how much they disagree, theyre still willing to come together like this. I respect them both for it honestly
No not really. Get that you want to represent a wide and varied demographics pool, but maybe dont go to scumbag human beings who have a history of predating folks under his power as a potential podcast guest with the energy of two old chims meeting up again. Wish it were more like Gore Vidal vs...
Yes :-) Maybe O'Reilly is actually a decent person with a weird interest for lesser famous presidents. Or he was just acting nice because his onlyfans doesn't pay like Murdoch did .....
@@karenvanderbeck Understandable. Of course I don't know every detail of his abusive behavior back then (or maybe even still), but not knowing of sexual abuse settlements does not equal the absence of sexual abuse or abuse of power. I may be too pessimistic, but I think humans are selfish by nature and success enforses ruthless behavior. I'm not defending perpetrators, they should be called out and punished, but I believe this is rather the exception to the rule that most media personalities are like O'Reilly but never get caught.
Honestly, this was refreshing. I don’t agree with a lot of the things Riley says, but I do enjoy a conversation between two people who disagree on so many things and they talk it out. I wish our political system worked like this.
This is an oddly heartwarming friendship, and they do honestly come across as friends outside debate. As Jon has said, O'Reilly and him have made a lot of money off selling the foundation of the current politicized, tribal system of charicaturizing the other side and hiding their fans in echo chambers and it's hypocritical for both of them to call it out now. I do think Jon and Colbert tend to be closer to the truth than their equivalents on the right, but the rhetoric has been very similar and its allowed 20% of the most extreme elements on both sides of the population to take turns making the laws rather than focus on the actual majority, and they achieve this hijacking by convincing everyone on their side that the other side wants to destroy the country so the things they want may be unpalatable but at least it's acceptable.
O'Reilly: "SEE? 🤔You CAN debate with fascists (who openly say that they want to preemptively destroy the most-vulnerable people, as well as the people who want to protect the most-vulnerable people), without destroying the fascist before they destroy you!!!"🤗 @Jack_Redview: "YES! I SEE! I SEE!😵💫 Also @Jack_Redview: 💩🧠 Me. 😒🔫
As much as every fibre of my being rebels to listen to Bill O'Reilly, this may be the only way I can - with Jon doing what he does well. It is important to sit with the uncomfortable, it is one of the best ways to figure out what I actually believe in. It is worth challenging myself by listening to the ideas, thinking and opinions of a person I am fundamentally sure I am going to disagree with on almost everything. Thanks Jon, I think.
Being uncomfortable spurs change. We get into our echo chambers and cozy opinions that everyone around us shares, we're content in our smug righteousness that we're better than "them". If we're at unease, we don't want to remain that way. It's a fine line to seek comfort and still peek your head out where it doesn't feel good. Either becoming numb or angry if taken to the extreme.
Jon's doing this for a reason. He's said it for years, you have to be able to engage in a conversation with even your biggest enemy. Bill O'Reilly is still despicable, he did terrible things, and has many views I disagree with, but he still has some valid points to make, and moreover, he's a perfect sounding board for Jon to make relevant points off of.
Don't waste your time listening to it. Bill just lied for 45 minutes straight. By the time it was over I felt worse than going in. I can't believe Jon ever thought this would result in anything other than Bill spreading misinformation.
Heres one classic problem with liberals. . "they look for love in all the wrong places". . . "they grasp at low hanging fruit". . meaning when they find a rightie/conservative/Republican. .and they say something sensible, reasonable, or marginally aligned with them. . they highlight them, laud them. . this is what is happening here. and all the former Republican Party chairs and members on MSNBC. O'Reilly is such a braggart, he loses any possibililty of anyone on the left listening to him.
He hasn't changed at all. You just aren't all spun up about him, because he is ignored by the media you ingest. Republicans disagreed with probably 2/3rds of what he said on his show. The show was a hit because of the guests, and the conversations, not because Bill was ever right about a darn thing.
In what world is this reasonable? The man said that every state should prevent people from getting ARs and that there should be "standards" right after saying that there should be no federal involvement in gun control. Who's going to set those standards, Bill? Should we cross our fingers and hope that all the States will come to the same conclusion independently for public safety? Total nonsense. He's a pseudo intellectual who's views are as harmful as they ever were.
No Bill. I lived in South Korea and Japan. Both countries have strict gun regulations. Both countries have less severe judicial outcomes. You're just wrong.
And if we can laugh have important conversations and not hate each other that’s important. Bill and Jon are the gold standard of that. So are Bill Maher & Ben Shapiro. #nomorehate
@@actownsend7288 - "So are Bill Maher & Ben Shapiro" Tbh, I don't think it's really a valuable format, detrimental even. "Having conversations" with people who are openly lying and operating in bad faith like O'Reilly and Shapiro only serves to normalizes their entirely false beliefs. We don't need to "see both sides of the argument" between reality and falsehoods. And I don't buy the "not hate each other" thing given people like O'Reilly and Shapiro owe their entire careers to spreading hate, and are still doing so today.
@@KingBobXVI Unless you religiously watch O'Reilly and Shapiro (rather than repeating what others say about them), you are participating in that 'rhetoric' they were talking about.
O'Reilly: "SEE? 🤔You anti-fascists CAN debate with fascists (who openly say that they want to preemptively destroy the most-vulnerable people, as well as the people who want to protect the most-vulnerable people), without destroying the fascist before they destroy you!!!"🤗 Working-class dupes: "YES! WE SEE! WE SEE!😵💫 Also working-class dupes: 💩🧠 Working-class anti-fascists. 😒
Same. A lot of intolerant people here in the comments though that couldn't even seriously attempt to listen to an opposing viewpoint. Can't stand those people.
We are not giving up our constitutional rights because of a psycho murderers! 4000 people a day are save from crime because of a firearm, without a shoot fired!
@@Anabee3 i donate to a charity called March for Our Lives. They did a march in downtown Phoenix and i went. But the gun lobby is so rich and so many lobbyists pay our elected officials. .
This is adorable. My father was very much an O’Reilly kinda guy. Adhered to him and Limbaugh religiously. I’m a Stewart/Oliver kinda guy. This reminded me of conversations that my dad and I would have over an afternoon. Weirdly nostalgic honestly. Thanks guys. 😊
Im a hairstylist and my wife works at a call center we dont make much but when trump changed the tax deductions our taxes went up . The tax breaks for average Americans under trump is another fiction
I feel for Americans dealing with price gouges, I do. But we are all going through this situation worldwide. Blaming the problem on a single head of state is just nonsense.
It's easier for people to blame the head of state they can replace, then the system of greed and opportunism from corporation(That they are powerless from) that is closer to the actual cause Like in sport: blame and replace the coach, not the players for losing.. right?
Exactly, we get the same rhetoric in Canada that it's all Trudeaus fault. I'm no Trudeau fan, but come on. We don't need to blame him for a worldwide issue, let's blame him for things he actually did wrong. Studies show the majority of inflation is corporate price gouging, and then another big chunk was supply chain issues. No single leader is to blame anywhere unless you blame them for not cracking down on the corporate price gouging. But that's a left wing argument so the right would rather just blame and not look into what the real cause is.
It’s easier to blame the president who everyone knows and some people hate on gas prices the same people who blame gas prices on the president probably can’t name a single CEOCFO president of any of the major gas or oil companies
Jan 6 started at the first debate in 2020 when Trump declared that the only way he could lose is if the other side cheated, and told his supporters to keep a close eye on poll workers (in other words disrupt their work and look for excuses to create conspiracy theories).
Trump assassination attempt start and flamed at whenever democrats called Trump Hitler. What is the only course of action against Hitler, given the chance?
That's true, I remember when he started talking baselessly about possible fraud early on. But back then I thought it was sort of his excuse in case he would lose, like "I tried, but they cheated". But I never would have thought it would go this far. And he is doing it again right now, with Vance doubling down
For what it’s worth it’s nice to see when you both are willing to stop interrupting each other and listen despite your disagreements. It’s helpful to hear even one good idea from another side. Glad you both have a respectful rivalry of sorts
I don't care if he's smug. What pisses me off is how he makes excuses for Trump's spending and job loss on external events (covid), but not for Biden's inflation, which is worldwide. He is biased and inconsistent, and he thinks he isn't. Utterly clueless. Oh and his gun control plan would be gutted by SCOTUS. You'd think he would know that.
Did you listen? He concedes quite a lot, even if he says it’s not a concession. He even agrees with gun regulation. He is condescending and makes dumb comments, but sounds a lot more reasonable than the other right wing loonies. When he doesn’t have a left leaning counter person, he is pretty batshit crazy.
@sloppynyuszi The gun control argument was weird. He argued that every state needed to have strict regulations because that's how federalism works. Then he turned around and said every gun crime should be a federal crime. So while he certainly sounded more reasonable than most conservatives, his solutions were completely unserious
The books at Harvard are the same as everywhere else. The class sizes are the same. The professors are no easier to understand. It's just more expensive to go there, and it's been forty years since he was in classes.
It's amazing to me that when Bill is pressed on Trumps economy tanking in 2020, he wants to give the covid context, however when it come s to the Biden administration's failings, no context is required. How can that be a sincere debate.. John l applaud you foer trying to get that out of him but good luck getting that honesty
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yep. Bill is GOP to the core and then denies it lol.
No context is required because we're literally living through Bidens failed economy in real time. Trump kept the economy afloat with stimulus programs.. Biden couldn't even tell you what day of the week it is.
Love it when Jon calls out Trump for saying ”Everyone will have health care” Only to do nothing. I still remember Trump’s switch from promising health care to all to ”nobody knew health care was so complicated”. Most moronic moment of a President ever.
Yeah and guess what, he was recently starting to promise an amazing health care bill that nonne has ever seen before on some of his rallies. So amazing that noone has ever seen it and most likely never will... I bet if he did the same thing again, his voters would still act like he was such a great president.
I think hes referring to the first term when they got rid of obama care and failed to replace it. He said on the campaign and he would replace it with something better which never happened. More recently , he said we need to protect medicare from the democrats but hasnt said anything on how he plans to do that .
O'Reilly is terrible, but i disagree with many saying he should not had him on. We need more of this. John Stewart should replace Biden and do this on the big debate stage.
I'd agree if O'Reilly still had his show. He doesn't. Jon is giving this man a soapbox from which to spew his lies when he has otherwise lost his platform.
I have no idea how Jon Stewart kept calm here. I don't understand why Americans keep going on about inflation as if they're the only ones in the world who went through this. The whole world went through rapid inflation rise. Countries are not built to handle inflation rise at this pace. It was the same here in the UK, the same in the rest of Europe, and it was caused by shocks to the system due to the Ukraine war. And Biden actually handled it pretty well. You go on about grocery prices, check out our increases. And we haven't had nearly the wage rises you have. You enable my sanity, Mr Stewart. Thank you.
Problem is the leftist blame the Ukraine war for the inflation, but the Ukraine war would not have happened under Trump. Having a president that can keep us out of wars matters.
@@felixnewman2473Ok, so as a so called "leftist" myself, would you care to enlighten me on how Trump would've so masterfully prevented the Ukraine war?
Lmao you must be new here. Jon and Bill have feuded and familiarized themselves with each other's politics for almost two decades now, if he hadn't learned to keep his cool during these talks there's no way any of use would take his perspective seriously.
@@jerrywil7012 Not only would Trump NOT have prevented the war, he would have been one of Putin's bigger cheerleaders (which he is anyway). He literally tried to blackmail Ukraine into giving up imagined dirt on Biden in exchange for help with defense, and he was rightfully impeached for it. Trump is a disgusting person, and morally bankrupt.
I've never had any love for O'Reilly and I understand why many people may not watch this because of him. But I do appreciate Jon for having him on. Their banter is legendary and the somewhat mutual respect they have for each other despite their opposite values is so rare. Jon is doing the right thing here. Confronting someone with the opposite views, coming in armed with strong arguments and research, showing he is emotionally invested in the debate but always staying grounded and rational. And sprinkling in some humor and jabs. This is what the discourse needs more of. We've gotten so used to avoiding conversations with the other side that when we are confronted we don't have the arguments to defend ourselves.
And it wasn't until after that zinger that we could even realize that O'Reilly's previous comment about Yale was supposed to be a joke. He's just *so bad* at his attempts at humor it's painful.
So, Bill’s staff is the best, most effective, unbiased investigators in all of the history. Good to know. Based on that…they should be in charge of every investigation on the planet.
He let things go that weren’t about an important subject matter, so the conversation stayed on topic. Jon’s synapses are on point most of the time he’s on air I believe.
Smug, yes, but I didn't really appreciate how *simple* he is. Occasionally slightly comedically... not clever, really, but showing good reflexes. But... he's *really* not an intelligent man. But, smug, yeah. "I could be wrong, but I very rarely am," says the idiot who spends most of his time making erroneous assertations.
Michael Douglas.(Purple) I am a non partisan/independent/moderate politics watcher, and I pay attention to the person talking not the partisan agenda. I love Bill and I love Jon But Jon did his interrupting,would not let a Bill complete his point BEFORE reacting,so as far as your comment,all you seen was your party member spewing Air Goo towards the opposite party member. And it is a fact that Anything somebody likes and has a little knowledge on will NOT listen to a different opinion, here let me give an example, topic "GOD" opponents Judism, muslim, Hindu, Christian.none of them will agree on which god is real which god is false. Okay now Chevy- Ford topic durable or tough or dependable. None will agree on other company being better. Okay there ya go. Now so Bill won!!
Its sad because Jon and everyone else thought that part of his life was over, but things are so bad that he feels he still has to say something. Jon is the hero we don't deserve
I wish those talking about COVID would mention the death toll and the number of Americans who have become permanently disabled because of long COVID. I also wish people would also talk about the long term economic effects the pandemic imposed on our healthcare system.
Agree I still don't have my full sense of smell back I caught it in late July of 2021 lasted into early September I had the first variant rough stuff to deal with mentally and physically draining
I've been saying this for a while now. We had an unprecedented disease take over the entire world for over a year, and we're supposed to just... recover in a month?
This is the first time I´ve seen these two guys argue, in fact it is the first time I´ve heard of Bill O´Railley at all but I have to say: I´ve rarely ever seen two people with such different political views from one and other have such a civil discussion in any type of media. I´ve found it especially interesting that they have repeatedly found points where they agree with one another. Honestly impressed with the way they talk to one another!
Not sure how I feel about this one. The thing I love most about Jon is his ability and willingness to call out lies on the spot and Bill gets away with way too much bs spouting here. Nonetheless hearing these two speak is a breath of fresh air in an increasingly musty cave
@@tysonfontanez if you really think he hated stewart when he had him on the factor you don't understand dry comedy at all. like at all. they both were giving eachother completely friendly jabs in a lighthearted tone.
I may be speaking too early, but it is so refreshing to see the two sides be able to have a civilized conversation. Shout out to Bill. This was good for my mental health
The 2.3 trillion was actually the CARES Act (stimulus for businesses and checks for individuals). From 2020 - 2021. But yes, he should have known that.
@@joshmumm1279 Bill didn't say "the US spent 2 trillion on COVID", he claimed that money was spent on vaccines and it objectively wasn't. Now maybe the claim was that Moderna, Pfizer, and Johnson and Johnson will get massive government consideration for future contracts given how quickly they were able to respond with a safe and effective vaccine (and assuming the same protocols are in place, they absolutely should with that track record), but that isn't what he said and 2 trillion is a number pulled directly from his ass.
@@joshmumm1279 Bill knew that ,he's not dumb, he just assumes his audience is, so he can lie to their face so long as it supports the 'left are all evil' rhetoric
I gotta be honest, I don't agree with almost anything Bill O'reilly says about politics, but if his broadcast news history, and the political pundits on the whole behaved the way he did on this podcast, our country would be a much better place. He's right about how politics has devolved.
I love you John! I love how your thinking process works and aligned with your heart. I am listening to this episode to understand the other side a little bit better, but I cannot even all the way to the end. This O’Reilly guy makes me feel physically sick, nauseous actually. You are very very very patient. I am amazed with the way you control your emotions
Anyone who thinks Trump was surprised by what happened on that day has to also believe this: This self-professed genius who imagines that he can perfectly read a room, missed the tenor of that January 6th crowd by a country mile.
I really wish Jon's question included the details about the seven sets of fake electors that were sent that they pressured Pence to pick instead of the real ones, like he literally called out the choosing electors demand in the speech before the riot. Or that the Eastman memo said Trump would win, not that it would be delayed. Or that Trump said he would pardon the rioters recently. Or that some of the fake electors are now his real electors. Or the ruling that recently granted the President immunity so that a lot of this can't even be looked at. Also a better response to "peaceful" being rhetoric is that Trump let them go for 3 minutes while watching it on TV and drinking soda and calling people to make his demands while people were begging him to call off his people.
Well, all good stories need proper fabrication to believe them. In the real world, you will know when Republicans want to revolt, because they will bring their nearly 1 billion guns with them. The idea that these people, of all humans on earth, would try and over throw the government, unarmed, is patently ridiculous and anyone who thinks otherwise, is not a deep thinker.
@@maskedmarvyl4774 I would say O'Reilly presenting contrasting points of view to Stewart is a valuable asterisk to Jon Stewarts opinions, and I do like that O'Reilly calls him out when Jon Stewart interrupts him too much. Because I do want to hear what the guest has to say before Jon responds. It's the whole back and forth dynamic that works pretty well.
@@TheDilligan, Dishonestly, obfuscation, lies and continually interrupting Stewart before he can make a single point are not contrasting points. Quite the opposite, in fact.
Gosh...As a polish citizen, I must say that I just love this kind of conversation! In our country there is a poor level of political discourse, and that's the shame! Thank you for this wonderful debate!!!! Greetings from Poland
I was under the impression that Polish politics had incorporated a lot of American political thinking especially when Jaroslaw Kaczynski is poisoning the well.
43:53 I am seriously impressed Jon, this was one of the hardest talks I’ve listened to lately - his saying this “I’m rarely ever wrong” 😑🙄 I had to pause to go catch my eyeballs as they rolled down the street - I just can’t communicate with people like this - just no wiggle room.
Bravo to the precision at which this conversation was executed, this was amazing to see, and this needs to happen more, since the worlds attention span has shrunken to the size of sound bites, video clips, instant gratification, the dopamine feedback loop, and seemingly memetic warfare.
@brandonskalsky5484 That's fair. Just nice to see both parties absorb a little of what's being spoken rather than loading their next comment into the chamber.
Agreed. I always enjoy watching these two sit down and discuss issues. It's clear that they carry a level of respect for one another regardless of any disagreements.
@@brandonskalsky5484 It isn't necessary to convince the other party of anything, if the discussion is public and in good faith. So long as each side respect the other's point of view and don't try to use classic youtube debate tactics, the people watching should be able to get enough information out of it, to make their own opinion about it. The antagonistic debate environment on youtube where one seeks to win a debate is worthless for the viewer, whether the viewer knows it or not.
A good old-fashioned O’Reilly versus John Stewart debate I never thought I would see this again in either of their lifetimes Maybe they haven’t before no I don’t wanna watch them My life without politics has been very happy
Listening to Bill reminds me of listening to my dad talk... It's wild to me that he devalued the Jan 6 committee report under his personal investigation.
expected as there are people in the camp of the "J6 committee was illegitimate" (for ...reasons...that make very little sense in this current timeline) and therefore the report shoudl be discredited as well. It is a whole circle of logic that defies reality.
@@4RTRDPro but someone who's job is currently presenting "news" to the public, who is seen as an "expert", who supports a specific candidate and condemns another, very specifically over a certain policy, should have a responsibility to have their facts correct. The way he stated, with such conviction, after saying over and over again that he's an historian and knows these things, that "there is no international asylum law!" is just a prime example of the misinformation going around. If he's going to act like a pompous, know-it-all, he really should get his facts straight.
So, that's your takeaway? Clearly you haven't considered that not enough was done to protect the perimeter of the site, guns or no guns. The "guy" was clearly protected as the perp was neutralized before he could finish his job.
I still remember Jon's motorized stepstool from that debate, lmao. 😂 Also, I seem to remember Colbert trying to get Jon to scrub his car with a live chicken as part of his "debate prep"?? 🤣🤣
For someone who walked into a political champaign office for the first time today, this is the kind of debate I am searching for. Respect for person, opinion and ideas from different sides of a fence. Thank you good sirs.
Why would there be a conflation between what Bill and all Republicans might do or think? What you're doing is a hyper generalization, and it's not very smart.. to put it politely.
"Objective facts" do not exist for many of these people, as their worldview requires disbelief of what is literally in front of their eyes. You can hear it when John grumbles, "oh, alright..." There's nothing that gets through. There is no possibility of rational, reasoned discussion because their beliefs require "alternate facts" and, unfortunately, the people they put in power are rewriting the history books.
@@slaapliedje - It's not exclusive to Republicans, but it's a _requirement_ to being a Republican. Not all delusional people are Republicans, but all Republicans are delusional.
Im in no way shape or form a fan of Bill, but having an actual conversation between the two sides with no one shouting, no one talking over each other, just stating ideals respectfully and even sliding some jokes in is refreshing. Thank you Jon, this is why you’re special
I don't care what anyone says, if we had a person like Jon as president, this country would finally have someone who actually cares about the people. I'm not a huge fan of celebrity culture, but I would vote for Jon Stewart for president more enthusiastically than I have ever voted for anything.
How is it that we keep hearing these same topics back and forth like a tennis match but when it’s bill and Jon, they sound fresh, actually important and coherent.
I don’t agree with Bill on a great many things but he doesn’t represent the current Republican party, he’s a Bush conservative not necessarily a Trump one
I actually appreciate Bill after all these years. Grateful that Stewart had him on. I get more out of the respectful debate than a bunch of ppl who think alike
Incredible to watch Bill pivot from "I'm so smart Harvard had to let me in" to "I'm a simple man. I don't understand a thing you just said" based purely on whether he needs to hold onto or move past an argument.
This is how I love you, Jon Stewart. Having discussions with idealogical bullies. I am trying to learn from it to apply to my right-wing brother-in-law who apparently is the best at everything in every way and supports autocrats.
I had to stop watching because O'Reilly did the "look at the grocery prices" garbage and Jon never countered with "look at their record profits". So frustrating and disappointing. That talking point is so easily disproven.
Inflation would naturally cause record profits unless sales slump. Your post has no context which is why the record profit thing is a garbage talking point. Might it be true? Yes, but not necasarly and throwing out one sentence slogans isn't proof.
@@therebellion6911 - "Inflation would naturally cause record profits unless sales slump." No? You're thinking of revenue, or the total amount earned from sales. _Profit_ is the gross revenue, or the amount earned _after expenses._ If prices are rising with inflation solely to cover product costs, the company's margin will either stay the same or drop. For them to be making record profits, they either have to be massively increasing quantity of sales, or if they're making roughly the same amount of sales, their margins have to increase, which means the increase in cost is _beyond_ any increase from material or labor costs. And that's exactly what we've been seeing - the cost of goods has been increasing much faster than the material or labor costs to the company, and in many cases the material cost has _decreased_ (see: shrinkflation). Feel free to look up the multiple studies that have been done on this in the last few years, because they all pretty much show this same thing.
I don't hear much good rebuttal to inflation by the Democrats. For one thing presidents have nothing to do with inflation. The only people who control the prices are the owners and executives of the companies. But people still blame the president. And yes, it was shown that a big percentage of this inflation was price gauging. Some of it was supply chain increases, COVID recovery and the war in Ukraine. And maybe they should point out that there has been inflation for a while but just not in common goods like groceries. Trump gave a huge tax cut to the rich which they didn't need. Of course this money wasn't put into investment or production but was used by them to buy assets like real estate and stocks/stock buybacks. So the price of housing got inflated and the stock market kept going up even though the economy was bad for the poor and middle class. There was inflation in the prices of things rich people buy but that's not talked about. Companies got a 40% tax decrease!!! That's effectively a tax break for the rich people who own the companies. Did average people get that?
@@robertpresley1503 It's literally as simple as that lol. No more than one sentence needed to describe the overall problem (corporate greed, taking advantage of the pandemic situation to fuck us even more for their own gain)
They both did it. They both made careers of teaching young people that the position wanted to ruin the country. Well, Bill's audience was mostly 40+ ers, while Jons audience were mostly children who are now around 40 or so years old.
@@kittredge5167 - I don't think it's fair to blame "both sides" when one side is actively selling hatred and division based on objective falsehoods while the other side is simply pointing out the obvious lies and mocking them. If the former wasn't proactively lying, the latter wouldn't have anythign to call out.
@KingBobXVI Its always not fair to blame both sides when your side gets blame, right? It's always the other guys are so bad. You people are delusional
I think it wonderful that JOhn and Bill are big enough to battle each other. America needs more of that. As to gun laws? Canada, New Zealand, Australia, UK. Grow up America.
I know they had to move on, but I was surprised Jon didn't focus more on the WHY other countries don't have such big problems with gun violence. I think he started to say it, but let Bill continue. It's that they DON'T HAVE GUNS. It's nothing to do with punishment. It's just so difficult to actually get a gun.
I thought being acussed of sexual harassment and having his credibility and reputation destroyed would have made him a little more reasonable and Understanding ….. i was wrong
As long as Trump doesn't get elected, I'll let the govt take every single right. Anything to stop fascism. I love that Stewart and Bill are coming together finally. It means we are healing as a nation. We'll probably have to put another 3-400 billion into Ukraine, but democracy is worth it.
They understand how important it is that the US keep funding the military to save the US and democracy. Bill knows how well Iraq and Afghanistan turned out. Nobody lied. I'm glad Stewart is finally coming around. Finally some hair on his chest.
Does anyone else think its kind of sweet that they keep debating each other? Like after all this time and how much they disagree, theyre still willing to come together like this. I respect them both for it honestly
No not really. Get that you want to represent a wide and varied demographics pool, but maybe dont go to scumbag human beings who have a history of predating folks under his power as a potential podcast guest with the energy of two old chims meeting up again. Wish it were more like Gore Vidal vs...
I prefer when John debates people who haven't paid tens of millions of dollars in sexual abuse settlements.
Yes :-) Maybe O'Reilly is actually a decent person with a weird interest for lesser famous presidents. Or he was just acting nice because his onlyfans doesn't pay like Murdoch did .....
@@karenvanderbeck Understandable. Of course I don't know every detail of his abusive behavior back then (or maybe even still), but not knowing of sexual abuse settlements does not equal the absence of sexual abuse or abuse of power. I may be too pessimistic, but I think humans are selfish by nature and success enforses ruthless behavior. I'm not defending perpetrators, they should be called out and punished, but I believe this is rather the exception to the rule that most media personalities are like O'Reilly but never get caught.
I was honestly surprised to see him associating himself after his sexual misconduct.
Honestly, this was refreshing. I don’t agree with a lot of the things Riley says, but I do enjoy a conversation between two people who disagree on so many things and they talk it out. I wish our political system worked like this.
Agreed!
It’s sort of nice, even though Bill is still so arrogant. And the “both sides” stuff Bill replies with is a lie, as usual.
This is an oddly heartwarming friendship, and they do honestly come across as friends outside debate.
As Jon has said, O'Reilly and him have made a lot of money off selling the foundation of the current politicized, tribal system of charicaturizing the other side and hiding their fans in echo chambers and it's hypocritical for both of them to call it out now. I do think Jon and Colbert tend to be closer to the truth than their equivalents on the right, but the rhetoric has been very similar and its allowed 20% of the most extreme elements on both sides of the population to take turns making the laws rather than focus on the actual majority, and they achieve this hijacking by convincing everyone on their side that the other side wants to destroy the country so the things they want may be unpalatable but at least it's acceptable.
Stewart/O'Reily 2024
O'Reilly: "SEE? 🤔You CAN debate with fascists (who openly say that they want to preemptively destroy the most-vulnerable people, as well as the people who want to protect the most-vulnerable people), without destroying the fascist before they destroy you!!!"🤗
@Jack_Redview: "YES! I SEE! I SEE!😵💫
Also @Jack_Redview: 💩🧠
Me. 😒🔫
As a disc golfer, I can assure you, you don’t need a gun to kill a squirrel. I still feel horrible about it. Poor little guy and damn my awful drive.
well at least the drive has some zing in it... rip
@@aanon4019 no kidding. Haha
So is that like an extra stroke then?
@@zdkama haha I still parred. But might as well been a stroke for the little guy. Yeeesh.
He is a senior citizen doesn't even understand what the internet is 😊
As much as every fibre of my being rebels to listen to Bill O'Reilly, this may be the only way I can - with Jon doing what he does well. It is important to sit with the uncomfortable, it is one of the best ways to figure out what I actually believe in. It is worth challenging myself by listening to the ideas, thinking and opinions of a person I am fundamentally sure I am going to disagree with on almost everything.
Thanks Jon, I think.
Ditto. 😅
Being uncomfortable spurs change. We get into our echo chambers and cozy opinions that everyone around us shares, we're content in our smug righteousness that we're better than "them". If we're at unease, we don't want to remain that way.
It's a fine line to seek comfort and still peek your head out where it doesn't feel good. Either becoming numb or angry if taken to the extreme.
Can't do it, cannot give Bill O'Reilly any of my time or energy
Jon's doing this for a reason. He's said it for years, you have to be able to engage in a conversation with even your biggest enemy.
Bill O'Reilly is still despicable, he did terrible things, and has many views I disagree with, but he still has some valid points to make, and moreover, he's a perfect sounding board for Jon to make relevant points off of.
Don't waste your time listening to it. Bill just lied for 45 minutes straight. By the time it was over I felt worse than going in. I can't believe Jon ever thought this would result in anything other than Bill spreading misinformation.
When Bill O'Reilly is now a "semi-voice of reason" you know something is fucked up. Also the older he get's the more Bill looks like Frasier
exactly what i was thinking.
Heres one classic problem with liberals. . "they look for love in all the wrong places". . . "they grasp at low hanging fruit". . meaning when they find a rightie/conservative/Republican. .and they say something sensible, reasonable, or marginally aligned with them. . they highlight them, laud them. . this is what is happening here. and all the former Republican Party chairs and members on MSNBC. O'Reilly is such a braggart, he loses any possibililty of anyone on the left listening to him.
He hasn't changed at all. You just aren't all spun up about him, because he is ignored by the media you ingest. Republicans disagreed with probably 2/3rds of what he said on his show. The show was a hit because of the guests, and the conversations, not because Bill was ever right about a darn thing.
As somebody who used to utterly hate Bill O'reilly I couldn't agree more.
In what world is this reasonable? The man said that every state should prevent people from getting ARs and that there should be "standards" right after saying that there should be no federal involvement in gun control. Who's going to set those standards, Bill? Should we cross our fingers and hope that all the States will come to the same conclusion independently for public safety? Total nonsense.
He's a pseudo intellectual who's views are as harmful as they ever were.
No Bill. I lived in South Korea and Japan. Both countries have strict gun regulations. Both countries have less severe judicial outcomes. You're just wrong.
I really appreciate this format. Thank you John and Bill for reminding us how to have political conversations.
And if we can laugh have important conversations and not hate each other that’s important. Bill and Jon are the gold standard of that. So are Bill Maher & Ben Shapiro. #nomorehate
@@actownsend7288 - "So are Bill Maher & Ben Shapiro"
Tbh, I don't think it's really a valuable format, detrimental even. "Having conversations" with people who are openly lying and operating in bad faith like O'Reilly and Shapiro only serves to normalizes their entirely false beliefs. We don't need to "see both sides of the argument" between reality and falsehoods.
And I don't buy the "not hate each other" thing given people like O'Reilly and Shapiro owe their entire careers to spreading hate, and are still doing so today.
@@KingBobXVI Unless you religiously watch O'Reilly and Shapiro (rather than repeating what others say about them), you are participating in that 'rhetoric' they were talking about.
O'Reilly: "SEE? 🤔You anti-fascists CAN debate with fascists (who openly say that they want to preemptively destroy the most-vulnerable people, as well as the people who want to protect the most-vulnerable people), without destroying the fascist before they destroy you!!!"🤗
Working-class dupes: "YES! WE SEE! WE SEE!😵💫
Also working-class dupes: 💩🧠
Working-class anti-fascists. 😒
The irony of Oreilly saying the point of discourse is not to destroy the other person? Isn't that how he made his living on Fox all those years?!
Shucks 😅
Kind of. He mostly made a living saying war on christmas which politically isn't very violent talk.
He does point out they're both guilty of that.
No
Yeah, even his default voice is angry old man berating you.
I want Jon Stewart and Bill O’Reilly to have their own show where they teach us how to talk about things we disagree on
I think a 20 minute podcast weekly would be very educational for Americans
The only thing Oreilly has to teach others is lying and gaslighting. He didn’t say a single accurate thing this entire video.
yeah where we the viewer get to see them bicker and sort get caught between... the crossfire...(get it?)
I actually really appreciate the way both of them are at least making an ATTEMPT to communicate with each other
its nice to not hear yelling over each other and while I disagree with Bill 1000% it's nice to see it's possible to talk.
Yea basic communication is happening, but bill is a seasoned boomer propagandist, there is no reasoning with him.
Same. A lot of intolerant people here in the comments though that couldn't even seriously attempt to listen to an opposing viewpoint. Can't stand those people.
An hour of intelligent dialogue between two men with massive, divided audiences, about OUR safety and our future. We are truly blessed.
@@aja3longhorn375it sounds like not listening to people is a viewpoint that opposes yours.. 🤔
I'll say it again: If we did nothing after Sandy Hook, we never will.
We are not giving up our constitutional rights because of a psycho murderers! 4000 people a day are save from crime because of a firearm, without a shoot fired!
Such a sad state this empire is in. Preschool kids. Just destroyed. No change from the government.
@@joshuamcdaniel6530 crying shame on us!
And you are, sadly, correct. Say it again.
@@Anabee3 i donate to a charity called March for Our Lives. They did a march in downtown Phoenix and i went. But the gun lobby is so rich and so many lobbyists pay our elected officials. .
This is adorable. My father was very much an O’Reilly kinda guy. Adhered to him and Limbaugh religiously. I’m a Stewart/Oliver kinda guy. This reminded me of conversations that my dad and I would have over an afternoon. Weirdly nostalgic honestly. Thanks guys. 😊
Im a hairstylist and my wife works at a call center we dont make much but when trump changed the tax deductions our taxes went up . The tax breaks for average Americans under trump is another fiction
That's right - the tax breaks were only for the wealthy.
Only the very wealthy benefitted with Trump's tax laws.
If you think you were worse off under Trump then Biden you need to stop smoking the funny weed.
nonsense @therebellion6911. My taxes went up as well, as did most American’s taxes. Only for the rich did taxes go down. But you know this already.
nonsense @therebellion6911. My taxes went up as well, as did most American’s taxes. Only for the rich did taxes go down. But you know this already.
I feel for Americans dealing with price gouges, I do. But we are all going through this situation worldwide. Blaming the problem on a single head of state is just nonsense.
Thank you for your wisdom & speaking up. I hope you repeat this as often as possible.
@@Anabee3 Feel free to share the message whenever you believe its appropriate
It's easier for people to blame the head of state they can replace, then the system of greed and opportunism from corporation(That they are powerless from) that is closer to the actual cause
Like in sport: blame and replace the coach, not the players for losing.. right?
Exactly, we get the same rhetoric in Canada that it's all Trudeaus fault. I'm no Trudeau fan, but come on. We don't need to blame him for a worldwide issue, let's blame him for things he actually did wrong. Studies show the majority of inflation is corporate price gouging, and then another big chunk was supply chain issues. No single leader is to blame anywhere unless you blame them for not cracking down on the corporate price gouging. But that's a left wing argument so the right would rather just blame and not look into what the real cause is.
It’s easier to blame the president who everyone knows and some people hate on gas prices the same people who blame gas prices on the president probably can’t name a single CEOCFO president of any of the major gas or oil companies
Jan 6 started at the first debate in 2020 when Trump declared that the only way he could lose is if the other side cheated, and told his supporters to keep a close eye on poll workers (in other words disrupt their work and look for excuses to create conspiracy theories).
Trump assassination attempt start and flamed at whenever democrats called Trump Hitler. What is the only course of action against Hitler, given the chance?
I mean, they had dead people voting.
That's true, I remember when he started talking baselessly about possible fraud early on. But back then I thought it was sort of his excuse in case he would lose, like "I tried, but they cheated". But I never would have thought it would go this far. And he is doing it again right now, with Vance doubling down
Hell, he started talking about it in 2015 too. If Hillarly ended up winning the election, he would've claimed fraud at that point too.
As a Russian living in The Netherlands I listen to this podcast every week so it does have some geographical coverage😊Jon Stewart is GOAT!
For what it’s worth it’s nice to see when you both are willing to stop interrupting each other and listen despite your disagreements. It’s helpful to hear even one good idea from another side. Glad you both have a respectful rivalry of sorts
I didn't realize that I totally needed another Stewart/O'Reilly conversation. Good stuff.
I realized. I've been campaigning to my local government for years for another one (I live in Canada).
They didn’t change each other minds but they were able to see each others side. Good sports on both sides
Definitely enjoy when these two get together. Always an interesting conversation.
Oh, I hoped I was walking up in a different timeline where it was the 00's all over again.
If Bill wants lefties to listen to him he should 1. try not acting so god damn smug and 2. stop being utterly wrong about most things.
Hear! Hear! Well said!! :)
Challenge: Impossible
I don't care if he's smug. What pisses me off is how he makes excuses for Trump's spending and job loss on external events (covid), but not for Biden's inflation, which is worldwide. He is biased and inconsistent, and he thinks he isn't. Utterly clueless. Oh and his gun control plan would be gutted by SCOTUS. You'd think he would know that.
Did you listen? He concedes quite a lot, even if he says it’s not a concession. He even agrees with gun regulation. He is condescending and makes dumb comments, but sounds a lot more reasonable than the other right wing loonies.
When he doesn’t have a left leaning counter person, he is pretty batshit crazy.
@sloppynyuszi The gun control argument was weird. He argued that every state needed to have strict regulations because that's how federalism works. Then he turned around and said every gun crime should be a federal crime. So while he certainly sounded more reasonable than most conservatives, his solutions were completely unserious
there are three certainties in life; death, taxes, and John Stewart and Bill O'Reilly "arguing" with each other.
They’ve got such chemistry, it’s unreal.
Bill O’Reilly: “I went to Harvard.” Also, Bill O’Reilly: “Economics?! I’m a simple man. I have no idea what you’re talking about right now.”
The books at Harvard are the same as everywhere else. The class sizes are the same. The professors are no easier to understand. It's just more expensive to go there, and it's been forty years since he was in classes.
@@heathcolwell9190technically... Smarter people are supposed to go there.. so the profs should make more sense...
@heathcolwell9190 the professors are NOT the same as anywhere else. They are often the best and leading scholars/educators.
Leading scholar/ researcher does not always mean best teacher/mentor
@@jenw5557 they said “educator.”
It's amazing to me that when Bill is pressed on Trumps economy tanking in 2020, he wants to give the covid context, however when it come s to the Biden administration's failings, no context is required. How can that be a sincere debate.. John l applaud you foer trying to get that out of him but good luck getting that honesty
yep. Bill is GOP to the core and then denies it lol.
To be fair, Trumps economy before Covid was incredible. Bidens economy post covid is still terrible.
The economy tanked during a worldwide pandemic? oh no, how could this happen!
I guess he's ashamed of himself, as he should be,.
No context is required because we're literally living through Bidens failed economy in real time. Trump kept the economy afloat with stimulus programs.. Biden couldn't even tell you what day of the week it is.
You are brilliant. So important to listen to people you disagree with in addition to your other great guests. Thanks for making this show.
Love it when Jon calls out Trump for saying ”Everyone will have health care” Only to do nothing. I still remember Trump’s switch from promising health care to all to ”nobody knew health care was so complicated”. Most moronic moment of a President ever.
Yeah and guess what, he was recently starting to promise an amazing health care bill that nonne has ever seen before on some of his rallies. So amazing that noone has ever seen it and most likely never will... I bet if he did the same thing again, his voters would still act like he was such a great president.
When did he say this?
@@kittredge5167 ua-cam.com/video/5oQLf65N-AU/v-deo.htmlsi=KktlV_7Rj3rNY6XO
I think hes referring to the first term when they got rid of obama care and failed to replace it. He said on the campaign and he would replace it with something better which never happened. More recently , he said we need to protect medicare from the democrats but hasnt said anything on how he plans to do that .
@@e90RI I believe Trump said he would replace Obamacare with something _terrific_
I love that Bill gets such a kick out of being a little bit of a cartoon villain
The problem is that the poorly educated take him seriously.
Only someone who is poorly educated could come to that conclusion.
@@mr.joshua6818 grifters gotta grift
proof that he knows he’s lying and misinforming.
@@jamesstewart8377yeah the poorly educated go around talking about cartoon villains 😂
These guys have a surprisingly valuable chemistry together.
O'Reilly is terrible, but i disagree with many saying he should not had him on. We need more of this. John Stewart should replace Biden and do this on the big debate stage.
How would that be helpful for vetting Biden?
@@kittredge5167 I suspect @jacobwaldrop8604 meant: run for president
Yes
I'd agree if O'Reilly still had his show. He doesn't. Jon is giving this man a soapbox from which to spew his lies when he has otherwise lost his platform.
@@theEumenides He has a platform, just one you are not aware of
I have no idea how Jon Stewart kept calm here. I don't understand why Americans keep going on about inflation as if they're the only ones in the world who went through this. The whole world went through rapid inflation rise. Countries are not built to handle inflation rise at this pace. It was the same here in the UK, the same in the rest of Europe, and it was caused by shocks to the system due to the Ukraine war. And Biden actually handled it pretty well. You go on about grocery prices, check out our increases. And we haven't had nearly the wage rises you have.
You enable my sanity, Mr Stewart. Thank you.
Problem is the leftist blame the Ukraine war for the inflation, but the Ukraine war would not have happened under Trump. Having a president that can keep us out of wars matters.
Jon seemed pretty unnerved throughout the whole discussion
@@felixnewman2473Ok, so as a so called "leftist" myself, would you care to enlighten me on how Trump would've so masterfully prevented the Ukraine war?
Lmao you must be new here. Jon and Bill have feuded and familiarized themselves with each other's politics for almost two decades now, if he hadn't learned to keep his cool during these talks there's no way any of use would take his perspective seriously.
@@jerrywil7012 Not only would Trump NOT have prevented the war, he would have been one of Putin's bigger cheerleaders (which he is anyway). He literally tried to blackmail Ukraine into giving up imagined dirt on Biden in exchange for help with defense, and he was rightfully impeached for it. Trump is a disgusting person, and morally bankrupt.
"You could never prove that in a court?"
Interesting you say that, Bill. There's EXTENSIVE court documents on that exact situation lmao.
I've never had any love for O'Reilly and I understand why many people may not watch this because of him. But I do appreciate Jon for having him on. Their banter is legendary and the somewhat mutual respect they have for each other despite their opposite values is so rare. Jon is doing the right thing here. Confronting someone with the opposite views, coming in armed with strong arguments and research, showing he is emotionally invested in the debate but always staying grounded and rational. And sprinkling in some humor and jabs. This is what the discourse needs more of. We've gotten so used to avoiding conversations with the other side that when we are confronted we don't have the arguments to defend ourselves.
"You went to Harvard, was that a DEI initiative for Irish guys?" - LOL
😂
And it wasn't until after that zinger that we could even realize that O'Reilly's previous comment about Yale was supposed to be a joke. He's just *so bad* at his attempts at humor it's painful.
It was a DEI initiative for pinheads.
I legit shouted walking home from a bite to eat in LA, a guy who was working in his yard got startled lmao
So all of you acknowledge those programs are inherently unfair.
So, Bill’s staff is the best, most effective, unbiased investigators in all of the history. Good to know. Based on that…they should be in charge of every investigation on the planet.
O’Reilly even when making a “joke”, is sadly so smug. Kudos to you Jon, for staying understanding, patient and circumspect.
He let things go that weren’t about an important subject matter, so the conversation stayed on topic. Jon’s synapses are on point most of the time he’s on air I believe.
Smug is his whole persona
Smug, yes, but I didn't really appreciate how *simple* he is. Occasionally slightly comedically... not clever, really, but showing good reflexes. But... he's *really* not an intelligent man.
But, smug, yeah. "I could be wrong, but I very rarely am," says the idiot who spends most of his time making erroneous assertations.
Bill O'Reilly's entire persona is Smug Dick
Michael Douglas.(Purple)
I am a non partisan/independent/moderate politics watcher, and I pay attention to the person talking not the partisan agenda. I love Bill and I love Jon But Jon did his interrupting,would not let a Bill complete his point BEFORE reacting,so as far as your comment,all you seen was your party member spewing Air Goo towards the opposite party member. And it is a fact that Anything somebody likes and has a little knowledge on will NOT listen to a different opinion, here let me give an example, topic "GOD" opponents Judism, muslim, Hindu, Christian.none of them will agree on which god is real which god is false. Okay now
Chevy- Ford topic durable or tough or dependable. None will agree on other company being better. Okay there ya go. Now so Bill won!!
I'm legitimately loving your frenemy / bromance. You won't give each other an inch but you can tell there's a respect for each other
I always knew Stewart was funny....but O'Reilly is giving it back. This is great tv.
Thank god Jon is back on the Daily Show. This rocks
Its sad because Jon and everyone else thought that part of his life was over, but things are so bad that he feels he still has to say something. Jon is the hero we don't deserve
I wish those talking about COVID would mention the death toll and the number of Americans who have become permanently disabled because of long COVID. I also wish people would also talk about the long term economic effects the pandemic imposed on our healthcare system.
Agree I still don't have my full sense of smell back I caught it in late July of 2021 lasted into early September I had the first variant rough stuff to deal with mentally and physically draining
I've been saying this for a while now. We had an unprecedented disease take over the entire world for over a year, and we're supposed to just... recover in a month?
This is the first time I´ve seen these two guys argue, in fact it is the first time I´ve heard of Bill O´Railley at all but I have to say: I´ve rarely ever seen two people with such different political views from one and other have such a civil discussion in any type of media. I´ve found it especially interesting that they have repeatedly found points where they agree with one another. Honestly impressed with the way they talk to one another!
Not sure how I feel about this one. The thing I love most about Jon is his ability and willingness to call out lies on the spot and Bill gets away with way too much bs spouting here. Nonetheless hearing these two speak is a breath of fresh air in an increasingly musty cave
Oh man, seeing these two together really brings me back...I feel like they are a bit more fond of each other these days.
Gross. Makes Jon look like a hypocrite to be fond of a sex pest like this.
O’Reilly doesn’t have to pretend he hates Stewart anymore now that he’s not on Fox
@@tysonfontanez if you really think he hated stewart when he had him on the factor you don't understand dry comedy at all. like at all. they both were giving eachother completely friendly jabs in a lighthearted tone.
@@aja3longhorn375 i said "pretend to"
I may be speaking too early, but it is so refreshing to see the two sides be able to have a civilized conversation. Shout out to Bill. This was good for my mental health
I don't think it's good for John's mental health though, he's really holding back here
"The US spent 2 Trillion on Vaccines!" - Bill Oreilly a 2 second google search... "the US spent $30 billion on vaccines"
The 2.3 trillion was actually the CARES Act (stimulus for businesses and checks for individuals). From 2020 - 2021. But yes, he should have known that.
@@joshmumm1279 Bill didn't say "the US spent 2 trillion on COVID", he claimed that money was spent on vaccines and it objectively wasn't.
Now maybe the claim was that Moderna, Pfizer, and Johnson and Johnson will get massive government consideration for future contracts given how quickly they were able to respond with a safe and effective vaccine (and assuming the same protocols are in place, they absolutely should with that track record), but that isn't what he said and 2 trillion is a number pulled directly from his ass.
Bill O’Reilly has made a career in lying about every single thing. Jon is too civil and lets him get away with too many lies.
@@joshmumm1279 Bill knew that ,he's not dumb, he just assumes his audience is, so he can lie to their face so long as it supports the 'left are all evil' rhetoric
@@Ajs3371 You're right, he did. Doesn't strike me as a lie about the $2T. Not on the internet where neckbeards are going to fact check it.
"we have to cool down the rhetoric that I don't take into account at all" - Mr. O'Reilly
O'Reilly is smug as they come. He feels he's ALWAYS the smartest guy in any room and always right.
He's a pompous jerk!
I gotta be honest, I don't agree with almost anything Bill O'reilly says about politics, but if his broadcast news history, and the political pundits on the whole behaved the way he did on this podcast, our country would be a much better place. He's right about how politics has devolved.
I love you John! I love how your thinking process works and aligned with your heart. I am listening to this episode to understand the other side a little bit better, but I cannot even all the way to the end. This O’Reilly guy makes me feel physically sick, nauseous actually. You are very very very patient. I am amazed with the way you control your emotions
Jon explained the lead up to Jan 6th perfectly.
He's well thought out does alot of research fact checks bill just flies by the seat of his pants and says whatever lol
Anyone who thinks Trump was surprised by what happened on that day has to also believe this: This self-professed genius who imagines that he can perfectly read a room, missed the tenor of that January 6th crowd by a country mile.
I really wish Jon's question included the details about the seven sets of fake electors that were sent that they pressured Pence to pick instead of the real ones, like he literally called out the choosing electors demand in the speech before the riot. Or that the Eastman memo said Trump would win, not that it would be delayed. Or that Trump said he would pardon the rioters recently. Or that some of the fake electors are now his real electors. Or the ruling that recently granted the President immunity so that a lot of this can't even be looked at.
Also a better response to "peaceful" being rhetoric is that Trump let them go for 3 minutes while watching it on TV and drinking soda and calling people to make his demands while people were begging him to call off his people.
Well, all good stories need proper fabrication to believe them. In the real world, you will know when Republicans want to revolt, because they will bring their nearly 1 billion guns with them. The idea that these people, of all humans on earth, would try and over throw the government, unarmed, is patently ridiculous and anyone who thinks otherwise, is not a deep thinker.
These guys are so much better together cause they instantly check each other 😂
Please tell me how O'Reilly's constant lies is "checking" Jon Stewart.
One more than the other obviously.....
@@maskedmarvyl4774 I think of it as the WWE of infotainment.
@@maskedmarvyl4774 I would say O'Reilly presenting contrasting points of view to Stewart is a valuable asterisk to Jon Stewarts opinions, and I do like that O'Reilly calls him out when Jon Stewart interrupts him too much. Because I do want to hear what the guest has to say before Jon responds.
It's the whole back and forth dynamic that works pretty well.
@@TheDilligan, Dishonestly, obfuscation, lies and continually interrupting Stewart before he can make a single point are not contrasting points. Quite the opposite, in fact.
I truly enjoy their "frienemy" dynamic. They really love hanging out disagreeing with everything the other stands for 😂
Gosh...As a polish citizen, I must say that I just love this kind of conversation! In our country there is a poor level of political discourse, and that's the shame! Thank you for this wonderful debate!!!! Greetings from Poland
I was under the impression that Polish politics had incorporated a lot of American political thinking especially when Jaroslaw Kaczynski is poisoning the well.
43:53 I am seriously impressed Jon, this was one of the hardest talks I’ve listened to lately - his saying this “I’m rarely ever wrong” 😑🙄 I had to pause to go catch my eyeballs as they rolled down the street - I just can’t communicate with people like this - just no wiggle room.
do you think he's reading this comment?
@@timothydoty9309 in my belief system - absolutely!! 😂😂 have a lovely day!
"That's the beauty of America, we can all have our opinions" that is just something people say when they can't defend the nonsense they are asserting
two guys on different sides of the isle not red faced and screaming, disagreeing and laughing and hearing each other? wonderful sight.
They are on the same side. What do you mean? They are both pro war, pro big government, pro imported underclass of labor.
You must have watched a different video, because I heard Bill shout over Stewart and not allow him to finish his point many times.
Stewart: "Why...?"
O'Reilly: "I don't know..."
You act like saying idk is a bad thing lmao.
Bravo to the precision at which this conversation was executed, this was amazing to see, and this needs to happen more, since the worlds attention span has shrunken to the size of sound bites, video clips, instant gratification, the dopamine feedback loop, and seemingly memetic warfare.
"I'm never wrong."
Proceeds to be wrong about everything.
Credits to Jon and O'Reilly to have a constructive discussion across the party line. We need more of that
Agreed. They are a good example of constructive discourse with playful jabs thrown in.
I would argue about how constructive the conversation actually was. It was congenial to be sure, but neither convinced the other of anything
@brandonskalsky5484 That's fair. Just nice to see both parties absorb a little of what's being spoken rather than loading their next comment into the chamber.
Agreed. I always enjoy watching these two sit down and discuss issues. It's clear that they carry a level of respect for one another regardless of any disagreements.
@@brandonskalsky5484 It isn't necessary to convince the other party of anything, if the discussion is public and in good faith. So long as each side respect the other's point of view and don't try to use classic youtube debate tactics, the people watching should be able to get enough information out of it, to make their own opinion about it.
The antagonistic debate environment on youtube where one seeks to win a debate is worthless for the viewer, whether the viewer knows it or not.
A good old-fashioned O’Reilly versus John Stewart debate I never thought I would see this again in either of their lifetimes
Maybe they haven’t before no I don’t wanna watch them
My life without politics has been very happy
Listening to Bill reminds me of listening to my dad talk...
It's wild to me that he devalued the Jan 6 committee report under his personal investigation.
expected as there are people in the camp of the "J6 committee was illegitimate" (for ...reasons...that make very little sense in this current timeline) and therefore the report shoudl be discredited as well. It is a whole circle of logic that defies reality.
@@ClicquotOh Well, the courts and legal system disagree, so there is that.
It is wonderful to see two people who vehemently disagree o political issues do so in a respectful manner. THANK YOU for showing leadership
The only respectful person was Jon.
Love this dialogue. Thanks Jon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's amazing that Bill claims to be an historian, but knows nothing about international (1951, 1967) or national (1980) asylum laws.
a historian doesn't know all things about all history. they are generally focused on a particular niche.
It is what republicans do well. Claim things they cannot back up.
and O'Reilly called himself a journalist😅
@@4RTRDPro but someone who's job is currently presenting "news" to the public, who is seen as an "expert", who supports a specific candidate and condemns another, very specifically over a certain policy, should have a responsibility to have their facts correct. The way he stated, with such conviction, after saying over and over again that he's an historian and knows these things, that "there is no international asylum law!" is just a prime example of the misinformation going around. If he's going to act like a pompous, know-it-all, he really should get his facts straight.
@@4RTRDPro Jon, to be clear, doesn't know very much about history. He's a charismatic guy who can talk loud and interrupt people.
Honestly most honest response . “ if a guy surrounded by guns can’t be protected, how will guns protect me “
So, that's your takeaway? Clearly you haven't considered that not enough was done to protect the perimeter of the site, guns or no guns. The "guy" was clearly protected as the perp was neutralized before he could finish his job.
Respectfully agree to disagree
@@johnberry4568 LOL
Jon thanks for this discourse between two intelligent country loving people. Much respect to you and Bill.
Their 2012 debate was advertised as a joke, but in the context of the Trump era, it’s like watching Noam Chomsky vs William F. Buckley. Lol
In all fairness Buckley debates were all jokes.
@@CancellerPalpatine Especially the one where he tried to debate Hitchens lol
@@CancellerPalpatinewatch the debate between James Baldwin & William Buckley; it’s not funny!
I still remember Jon's motorized stepstool from that debate, lmao. 😂
Also, I seem to remember Colbert trying to get Jon to scrub his car with a live chicken as part of his "debate prep"?? 🤣🤣
Bill is off tv for a reason
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It is an advertiser-based, eyes on the prize ratings driven attack on sensibilities for sales. What could go wrong?
For someone who walked into a political champaign office for the first time today, this is the kind of debate I am searching for. Respect for person, opinion and ideas from different sides of a fence. Thank you good sirs.
Please find better debate O'Riley is still lying and bullshitting
Do republicans honestly think that objective facts and opinions are the same thing? I really hate this timeline.
Why would there be a conflation between what Bill and all Republicans might do or think? What you're doing is a hyper generalization, and it's not very smart.. to put it politely.
"Objective facts" do not exist for many of these people, as their worldview requires disbelief of what is literally in front of their eyes. You can hear it when John grumbles, "oh, alright..." There's nothing that gets through. There is no possibility of rational, reasoned discussion because their beliefs require "alternate facts" and, unfortunately, the people they put in power are rewriting the history books.
No they're all delusional
Ha, it definitely isn't just a Republican issue of people who have a light grasp on reality.
@@slaapliedje - It's not exclusive to Republicans, but it's a _requirement_ to being a Republican.
Not all delusional people are Republicans, but all Republicans are delusional.
It's funny to hear as a person from Kazakhstan, that Bill O'Reilly specifically calls me to complain about Stewart😂😂😂
Sorry about Borat, bro. Sacha Baron Cohen is elite racist
I love how they've kinda turned in to Magneto and Xavier. Like ol' frenemies. ❤
Jon finding himself in an old Mark Twain quote about arguing w fools.
he’s not a fool though. he knows EXACTLY what he’s doing.
Do you think Mark Twain was a progressive?
@@AmyZonkers - Why is that relevant?
Im in no way shape or form a fan of Bill, but having an actual conversation between the two sides with no one shouting, no one talking over each other, just stating ideals respectfully and even sliding some jokes in is refreshing. Thank you Jon, this is why you’re special
lol that you have to do the intro groveling bc this comments section will attack anyone who admits they kinda like him.
Great conversation. I'd like this show.
Jon go submit your name at the Democratic convention
I don't care what anyone says, if we had a person like Jon as president, this country would finally have someone who actually cares about the people. I'm not a huge fan of celebrity culture, but I would vote for Jon Stewart for president more enthusiastically than I have ever voted for anything.
He's too smart to drag himself and his family through the process. You get your life picked apart
i was shocked to hear he thinks he's an independent
Love it when these guys are together. Mutual respect for each other.
How is it that we keep hearing these same topics back and forth like a tennis match but when it’s bill and Jon, they sound fresh, actually important and coherent.
These are important and Jon is coherent. Bill is frankly delusional.
I don’t agree with Bill on a great many things but he doesn’t represent the current Republican party, he’s a Bush conservative not necessarily a Trump one
@@mortecai222 He is clearly a T-rump apologist.
Bill O'Reilly: "[this show] is in front of the world, now that I'm on it!"
Me: Bill O'Reilly has a show?
Podcast lol
Jon's show just changed to the "No Spin Zone" - your fact free alternative to actual news.
I wished the two of them had a podcast together, I would sign up to watch 24/7
Yeah I had no reaction. Honestly it seemed inevitable that at some point something like this was gonna happen.
For real I was not surprised. It was kinda exciting like a high school drama or something so weird. We are fudged.
I can’t stand O’Reilly… But I’ve gotta admit… He cracked me up with the whole, “I’m gonna hire someone to follow you around reading my book” thing.
And he's the kind of guy to actually go through with it
@@Omni0404nah, his goofy ass is completely joking.
@@josiahhartsell As was I. I guess your joke detector is 50-50 today
@Omni0404 no ma'am. Your sense of humor delivery is worse than douche bag Orielly
Always educating always interesting. I watch it weekly.
I actually appreciate Bill after all these years. Grateful that Stewart had him on. I get more out of the respectful debate than a bunch of ppl who think alike
Jon is so decent, smart and best of all - funny!
He is a national treasure!💜
Woah! First time viewer, long time Steward fan. Your office looks amazing!
Why are we still listening to Bill?
Why are we still reading UA-cam Comments?
Dialog is the solution. So proud of Jon and Bill for trying to tolerate eachother. And hilarious to watch how hard it its.
O'Reilly: "I'm a simple man." Translation: "I pretend I don't understand facts that I don't want to acknowledge that prove I'm wrong."
Incredible to watch Bill pivot from "I'm so smart Harvard had to let me in" to "I'm a simple man. I don't understand a thing you just said" based purely on whether he needs to hold onto or move past an argument.
When asked about gun safety, trump had no comment….. it seems he couldn’t lend an ear to the national conversation 👂 🥁🥁 🥁
Hahahahha
Hahaha 😊!
Turn the other Ear😂
This is how I love you, Jon Stewart. Having discussions with idealogical bullies. I am trying to learn from it to apply to my right-wing brother-in-law who apparently is the best at everything in every way and supports autocrats.
I had to stop watching because O'Reilly did the "look at the grocery prices" garbage and Jon never countered with "look at their record profits". So frustrating and disappointing. That talking point is so easily disproven.
Inflation would naturally cause record profits unless sales slump. Your post has no context which is why the record profit thing is a garbage talking point. Might it be true? Yes, but not necasarly and throwing out one sentence slogans isn't proof.
@@therebellion6911 - "Inflation would naturally cause record profits unless sales slump."
No? You're thinking of revenue, or the total amount earned from sales. _Profit_ is the gross revenue, or the amount earned _after expenses._ If prices are rising with inflation solely to cover product costs, the company's margin will either stay the same or drop. For them to be making record profits, they either have to be massively increasing quantity of sales, or if they're making roughly the same amount of sales, their margins have to increase, which means the increase in cost is _beyond_ any increase from material or labor costs.
And that's exactly what we've been seeing - the cost of goods has been increasing much faster than the material or labor costs to the company, and in many cases the material cost has _decreased_ (see: shrinkflation). Feel free to look up the multiple studies that have been done on this in the last few years, because they all pretty much show this same thing.
@@therebellion6911 If there are record profits AND record prices, that means that businesses are price gouging.
I don't hear much good rebuttal to inflation by the Democrats. For one thing presidents have nothing to do with inflation. The only people who control the prices are the owners and executives of the companies. But people still blame the president.
And yes, it was shown that a big percentage of this inflation was price gauging. Some of it was supply chain increases, COVID recovery and the war in Ukraine.
And maybe they should point out that there has been inflation for a while but just not in common goods like groceries. Trump gave a huge tax cut to the rich which they didn't need. Of course this money wasn't put into investment or production but was used by them to buy assets like real estate and stocks/stock buybacks. So the price of housing got inflated and the stock market kept going up even though the economy was bad for the poor and middle class. There was inflation in the prices of things rich people buy but that's not talked about. Companies got a 40% tax decrease!!! That's effectively a tax break for the rich people who own the companies. Did average people get that?
@@robertpresley1503 It's literally as simple as that lol. No more than one sentence needed to describe the overall problem (corporate greed, taking advantage of the pandemic situation to fuck us even more for their own gain)
Guys like him are the reason our country is so divided.
They both did it. They both made careers of teaching young people that the position wanted to ruin the country. Well, Bill's audience was mostly 40+ ers, while Jons audience were mostly children who are now around 40 or so years old.
@@kittredge5167 - I don't think it's fair to blame "both sides" when one side is actively selling hatred and division based on objective falsehoods while the other side is simply pointing out the obvious lies and mocking them. If the former wasn't proactively lying, the latter wouldn't have anythign to call out.
@KingBobXVI Its always not fair to blame both sides when your side gets blame, right? It's always the other guys are so bad. You people are delusional
He damn sure did his part!
"People who disagree with me, are the problem" - The dumbest person in every room, since the dawn of mankind
I think it wonderful that JOhn and Bill are big enough to battle each other. America needs more of that. As to gun laws? Canada, New Zealand, Australia, UK. Grow up America.
I know they had to move on, but I was surprised Jon didn't focus more on the WHY other countries don't have such big problems with gun violence. I think he started to say it, but let Bill continue. It's that they DON'T HAVE GUNS. It's nothing to do with punishment. It's just so difficult to actually get a gun.
Since when someone can claim to be a historian without understanding facts?
history isn't an exact science and seeing Bill-O claiming to be a historian, not a protected title.
I thought being acussed of sexual harassment and having his credibility and reputation destroyed would have made him a little more reasonable and Understanding ….. i was wrong
Stewart and O'Reilly is the buddy cop movie we never knew we needed.
Holy shit, O'Reilly's a gun control advocate? Wasn't expecting that.
Yeah, for sure. That's not a new take from him, either. Have a look back at their older debates over the years.
As long as Trump doesn't get elected, I'll let the govt take every single right. Anything to stop fascism. I love that Stewart and Bill are coming together finally. It means we are healing as a nation. We'll probably have to put another 3-400 billion into Ukraine, but democracy is worth it.
Remember, you have to call it “gun standards”
So good to see progressives and conservatives talking with each other. Civility and respect is necessary - on both sides.
They understand how important it is that the US keep funding the military to save the US and democracy. Bill knows how well Iraq and Afghanistan turned out. Nobody lied. I'm glad Stewart is finally coming around. Finally some hair on his chest.
I love so much of this. Jon's interviewing skills are top notch. I actually liked a lot of what Bill had to say about gun solutions.
I never thought I'd be eager to watch something with Bill O'Reilly on... damn you Jon Stewart! 😂
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