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Pod Save America On The Media, Messaging, And Midterms | The Problem With Jon Stewart Podcast
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2022
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One Jon is nice - but have you ever heard a podcast with three of them? (Plus, a Tommy for good measure.) The Pod Save America guys are here to discuss midterm elections, the problem with polling, and whether we should look to journalism to save us. They also take a stroll down memory lane to the Obama White House, reminiscing about the good old days of government website crashes and that time a gaping hole opened in the bottom of the ocean.
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Jon Stewart gets panelists to have some of the most real conversations. The kind of honest talks that we all should be having way more often than we do now. Jon asks some very probing and intelligent questions. If his guests do not answer his questions he’ll tell them and ask it again. I am so glad Jon has decided to get back on the TV horse again. Thank you Jon for doing what you do. I love it.
Jon is good at launching relentless attacks that reach into someone's guts and puts a fire in there for just long enough to drop their barriers and made-for-TV persona.
" The kind of honest talks that we all should be having way more often than we do now. "
Thissss.
Stewart needs to run for office, as a 3rd party and pull in all progressives.
@@TheBushdoctor68 not sure he sees the false left/right dichotomy two party duopoly clearly enough to understand the need for a viable third party.
@@twntwrs I think he would understand the need, but wouldn't see any viability, as that idea has been thoroughly undermined by subtle mainstream propaganda. Once we can convince him that, yes it will be a struggle, but most likely to succeed and therefor worth it, he may actually come around to it.
Jon Stewart I really miss you from The daily show I grew up watching you and you helped give me a better perspective on world politics. Gratitude Mr Stewart
One of the guys who was huge for my intellectual development and awakening to my huge love of history.
Now he's like my sensei on high level economics 😁😂
If you like history and world politics, watch the 1942 USDA video *Hemp for Victory* which legalized "Marihuana" to save the world from fascism and genocide during World War II.
The film was hidden from your parents and grandparents for almost 50 years so that everyone who was born after World War II could be brainwashed with the lie that "Marijuana will destroy America." There is an official US government link to the film from the US National Archives. It became public in 1990.
The film today is the key to repairing the supply chain, reducing pollution, replacing fossil fuels, ending deforestation and stopping climate change.
Your beloved media personalities are contractually obligated to never talk about this because it would change the global economy away from oligarchic control of limited resources.
Thank you for your service Jon Stewart, and for servicing tattooed Azov naughty jackboots with medals for their service to humanity.
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One of the best podcasts Jon's done lately- and that's not a low bar to cross, either.
Yeah but I can't stand those Clinton loving fools from pod save America, they're terrible
This was so good. I need this all day everyday in my life. Decent people with a good head on their shoulders discussing very important things.
Think you intended to say DISCUSSING instead of DISGUSTING ., yes? 🙂
Hahahaaaa
As a Finn, I would like to note that while certain segments of the media did attack Marin for her partying, most of the population actually reacted quite differently and actually made fun of the media for not covering the governance over her vacation time.
Maybe, the Finns should be more concerned with the bitter cold that's coming without Russian gas ... or the bitter heat of nuclear war. Winter is coming.
Thanks for letting us know what most Finns are thinking about the situation. It seems much more reasonable.
@@afshinshahzamani2297 Ooft you think you’re exempt
@@anniebell6846 No, we are f***## because of Western "leaders" idiocy. Nuclear war spares noone.
Marin is US bankers marionette. Her "partying" is just a PR campaign. According to fake news, Jew Zelensky is fighting for American bankers "independent" Ukraine. Marin is Jews "independent Finn". If needed Jews can start another war on Russian border and full of "independence" Marin can help them. Do you think that Finns are not as stupid as Ukrainians?
I want Jon to host a presidential debate. If the Republicans have lost their sense of shame, we should to. The under 60 crowd would love it. Jon will call their shit for what it is regardless of party. Just straight to the point w/o doubletalk!!!!!
Why would I be ashamed of my skin?
To feed your narcissist racial power trip?
As someone nearly 70, I would LOVE that to happen! But they never pick someone that doesn't let them squirm off the hook.
@@smokeyhoodoo because people that use the term "racist" unjustifiably, need to have an adult in the room explain things to them
@@nickvanhorn681 You mean a neurotic racial abuser and a communal narcissist
There is a hunger out there to be informed. We just live in a media “food desert” that serves us nothing but processed crap instead of nutrition. I want to know about the intricacies of an issue. Do you know how freaking hard it is to find a complete picture of an issue? We, who are not journalists, already have jobs! Being well informed is like taking on two more full time jobs.
If you want to be informed try Thomas Sowell.
If you have the time and like to laugh with your news check out Hal Sparks channel
" Being well informed is like taking on two more full time jobs. "
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It's not just being informed, it's going back to issues that were hot for 5 mins. and getting an update on them on a regular basis.
Like what happened to the people flooded in Kentucky? What's going on with the kids who were in the school shooting in MI? (I'm sure there's 6 million other stories getting glossed over because an elderly lady died in another country who was rich and has awful kids.)
And not the news' typical emo follow-ups of "How did that make you feel?" but some actual information based on real research.
@@Corbomite_Meatballs not to mention soooo many stories not covered because an elderly man with terrible hair (and awfui kids) became president of a country. it is insane how often we hear about that on other news shows, and, everywhere.
This is a beautiful discussion. Please do have more pods with the 4 of you. You all have given me faith over the past 6 years thank you so much
Absolutely loved this show. Now, we need Jon Stewart to invite Ben Rhodes and Dan Pfeiffer on the show. Can't wait for that one. Good job!
Or maybe the Trashfuture or Tech Won’t Save Us crowd. That would be some delicious tinfoil hat space alien conversation similar to how this episode was full of space aliens.
Victor Davis Hanson or Jared Taylor would be far more interesting. Or anyone who has even a slight disagreement with Jon and is well spoken.
Yes! Would love to see Ben Rhodes have a discussion with Jon Stewart.
@Sara Mill Therre was a gay guy!
@Sara Mill left just loves to eat it's own
Jon Stewart made sense our healthcare is still a problem. I got diagnosed with MS in November. It's expensive and an issue that altered my daily life. Yet any handicapped person is treated as not a full person. Instead people are complaining about woke culture and other nonsense.
Why I don’t understand how joe can give forgiveness to student loans but not people with medical bills and help improve the medical issue. But he is going all green(!?!?), despite the fact that we are running low on lithium, poor countries with no labor laws or environmental constraints are used for mining… plus, lithium is poisonous to humans!?!?
Do the campaigns and cabinets ever research anything or is it just driven by a small group’s ideology?
@@lanadobritchanin1182 It is still a super slim majority in Congress. So when nothing gets done, people blame instead of understanding how government functions. I understand loan forgiveness. I had college debt for a while. Rates where insane. Got married and was fortunate enough to pay it off. It was called luck. It could of swung the other way and I could of been in massive amount of debt.
@@Burnmaster10 I know how government works and joe has done a lot of stuff without congressional approval. 10,000 debt forgiveness will not do much for people in debt; but, it will kill our economy more. Tho, I think that is this administration’s goal… kill the economy! And, they are Boeing very successful!
@@Burnmaster10 Exactly and I'm not sure how much, if any, power the executive has with medical loans and payments.
Hi Ben, I was diagnosed with MS 10 years ago. I hear you.
Sometimes I try to add to the conversation and then I forget you guys aren't actually in the room with me. Watching the show feels like a real conversation. I like it.
This was great! I am an older American and I want to live long enough to not have to talk about Donald Trump, thanks guys.
John is one of the few strongholds for democracy in media currently. Always coming from an even keeled but resolute mindset that is hard to find in the current click bait rage machine that is "political news".
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Neither lawyer nor journalist can prosper in an age of peace and plenty. Yet in times both blessed & profane, the stalwart bartender shall always reign.
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Stay off the drugs, man. “Lawyer nor journalist can prosper…” Of course they can and they do.
@@jimsanderson4180 You have issues
@@smokeyhoodoo Tell me more
This conversation was amazing. Love Jon Stewart and Pod Save America, hopefully they’ll invite Jon on their show at some point too, he is always a treat.
This conversation was EVERYTHING I needed on my Saturday! and please get together more often! I love that J,J,J &T address the whole right wing line of "we are not a democracy, we are a republic" because I have encountered that same line from some maga family members- my question is what is a good way to respond to this statement??
We are a democratic republic.
Why does no one talk about the right wing killing people by kneeling on their throat etc.
I would ask them to define it, and then ask them why they bother to vote if they don't think they live in a democracy.
WOW! This was the best podcast yet on TPWJS. 15 minutes in and I was hooked. Great guests who were knowledgeable and entertaining.
I love it when my worlds collide in such an amazing way. I'm such a big Pod Save fan and have loved Stewart since the 90's. Great show boys.
It's like one world collided with an identical world, except nothing changed and everyone nodded and laughed.
I am so very thankful for each one of YOU! BRILLIANT HEARTFELT LOVING ACTION!
The dynamic between Lovett and his buddies is really entertaining. I always prefer to see all of them together. Jon is a great host for them.
Fascinating show. As an activist I know legislative aides are the ones you have to talk to.
Progressive podcasts are so much more informative and stimulating than the right wing ones.
Jon is not a progressive. He is a sell out.
That's a low bar to jump over.
Outstanding conversation.
"If sometime says it's raining, and another person says it's dry, your job isn't to quote them both. Your job is to look out the f*cking window and find out which is true."
Sally Claire (h/t Michael Okuda)
Yikes, Murase! Great point and
succinctly stated. But today, unfortunately, the narrative you are promoting to earn your paycheck
trumps the truth every time, every way, every day. You didn't get the memo either, huh? Basically, the billionaires now have more money, power, and influence than the government so they get to do whatever they want without ANY
control over their most embarrassing and egregious behaviors. We're lucky we can still chirp about this stuff on the web,
or read about it in our few remaining newspapers. Wasn't democracy great though when it existed? At
least we can remember it fondly.
They can't take that away from us yet. Good luck to you!
It's so great to see/hear insightful intelligent discussion of these issues. Keep doing the good work!
I learned something almost every single time that I tune into your podcast thank you guys and John Stewart and you have wonderful insights and experience to bring into my awareness I'm like a kindergarten in political consciousness and I feel like I'm having a crash course and something that I should have been involved in long time ago however better late than ever I suppose LOL thank you again. However brilliant all your points are I believe time is up the essence and we should just pound the idea that Roe versus Wade was overturned and that the far right platforms have an agenda to Sunset Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and I feel that's what we should be harping on more than anything and we can do the analytics a little later we have less than 2 months and we should just be informing the viewers of this and asking them to share this key issues that can impact us individually that will cut right through both party lines the issues I mentioned above. And again I thank you so much but this is what I do believe we should just be going on and on and on about right up to the midterms!
MSNBC does a great job of not both siding things. Jon Stewart needs to know that. MSNBC really covered Jon Stewart’s Drive for burn pit relief very well
The main problem is the corporatization of news. It's all about ratings which brings in money so news isn't about the news anymore, it's about personalities.
I would agree with you and would add that viewers are looking to be entertained by the news media and rather than taking in “facts” and making their own decisions and formulating their own thoughts about what is going on in the world.
@@waynelondon9776 I would say money incentivized the conversion of news from informative to entertainment venues.
@@inorite4553 Gone is the sense of civic duty to inform and share the truth with the public. Network news has transformed into a profit centre with shareholder needs at the forefront. That’s why I like what I see in terms of the podcasts that are being done like this one.
When Jon Stewart said, "Look what happened when they tried to forgive $10,000 of student loan money. Okay, Hugo Chavez," my Google assistant activated and said, "To get started with that, I'll need to verify your voice." One day, someone on TV is going to say something that sounds similar to "okay, Google, nuke Canada" and it's just going to do it.
Was at a friend's place the other day watching a movie where a main character's name was Alexa.. and every time someone said her name.. the little speaker in the corner of the room would light up expectantly..
That's why I don't fuck with AI assistants.
I don't need them, I'll google it myself. All they do is take over your devices randomly and cause problems.
don't be ridiculous.
Google is gonna decide to nuke us all long before someone makes that mistake.
More likely Alexa, though.
Thank you everyone!! Four of my favorites all in one place! Not sure if I’m encouraged or terrified but I did get to laugh!! Go Jon Stewart and all those at Crooked Media! Keep doing what your doing!! I’m listening
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Don’t be a hater!
@@donnagoeser3948 its ok to hate people actively working for the ruling class, Dunna
You're right, Donna, these guys, all 4, are awesome, intelligent and make political discussions engaging and entertaining.
Great conversation. Would love to see more conversations between these guys. Jon (Stewart) should go on Pod Save America.
He'd be a great offline guest for sure
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Thanks Jon , love you and love the guys from pod save America 👍💙
45:25 Imagine a newscaster coming on the air, “Not a lot going on today, finally, thank god, and honestly I’m just a bit tired of the outrage machine. So let’s just have the exotic animal handler for the rest of the show.”
I'm a huge fan of your podcast, Jon, and "Crooked Media!" Great shows that educate and entertain!! 🥰!
Four of my favorite podcasters in one episode? ❤ I’m here for it and I want it regularly!!!! We need a monthly dose of Jon and PSA/Crooked Media
SAME :)
You don't tire of the Obama apologetics?
@@dreamingrightnow1174 no because I didn’t expect Obama to behave like a dictator, and I understood then, as we are reminded now, the importance of a legislature w a shared vision willing to write, support, and pass bills to achieve the president’s policy agenda. If that’s all you get from their podcasts, why do you watch? Move along, maybe your pessimism will be appreciated somewhere else
A third episode of Pod Save America!? I'm absolutely here for it!
My favorite men on politics in one place… thank you guys for this honest take once again
I love it and still, I would have enjoyed that even more having Alyssa and/or Erin being around that table.
I'm a big Friend of the Pod Save America! So, I'm here to see The Guys, but enjoyed the conversation with Jon Stewart. Thank you for the sane conversation, guys!! It's greatly appreciated!
The best time I spent today listening to four of my favourite men. I am absolutely in awe. Thanks a million times over. Blessings to you all.
“The Problem” is only one of two shows (the other being “Last Week”) where I always plan to rewatch so that I can absorb the info better. I know Jon was poked fun at in the middle of podcast about “finding a new business plan” but truly, deeply: thank you for everything you’ve done so far.
OMG, four people speaking with thought and intelligence. They are not speaking over each other,they are listening to each other and actually responding to what's being said. Shocking.
This is how people behaved before social media
@@ElmokillaXDK I disagree
So if social media is the issue, then how are these folks doing this in this area of social media?????
My take. Politics can 100% be total crap, but it’s still important to take it seriously. Can’t change the world with one correct view, even if held by most people. It’s a sad mess, and we still have to fight for what’s right. Jon is correct, things should never have become this way. But they are, and we do have to deal with it.
Thx Jon for pointing out the exact places we’ve lost our minds and even souls. Still, it has happened. Hopefully more folks will get some sense from this.So glad you had these lovely guys on (my faves) and that you needled them too. And that you’re doing everything you possibly fucking can to make our world a better place for us all. You have access and god knows skills we don’t have. Keep it up please.
One of the most interesting conversations I've heard in a very long time. Thanks to all 4 of you!
@@ts8206 Lovett is gay.
@@ts8206 That has got to be one of the most inane and nonsensical comments on here. Thanks for so clearly showing your ignorance.
3 Johns and a Tommy.....What a treat in democracy talk. Thank you.
Excellent conversation. THANK YOU!!! There was some pain, but most importantly, there was truth-telling and we need that so badly.
I LOVE Jon Stewart on any platform!
Love Pod Save America!!! They're my guys! Most sensible sarcasm and political commentary ever!!!
On failures of journalism to cover governance:
1. It takes time to get educated on the facts, and the news cycle is too fast to allow reporters to do that
2. The facts are often boring or hard to understand, so hard to 'sell' as infotainment
3. Audiences (like me) are addicted to anger and outrage and facts aren't essential to generate that
But Jon Stewart is doing an amazing job here to battle back xox!
I would add that the advertiser driven model prevents a lot of actual journalism. It’s almost impossible to have an honest conversation about vaccines, climate change, endless wars and challenging corporate power when the segments are sponsored by Phizer, BP, Northrop Grumman and Comcast.
So grateful you're all on one show - amazing conversation. Lovett - you are alot - that's why we love you!
Exactly 😂
So much intelligence and integrity in one conversation! Why can't we get this in government??
Ahhhhh, all is right with the world this morning...Jon Stewart and Pod Save America TOGETHER ??? I'm in heaven :)
Seeing the past few months of Jon Stewart get his groove back is amazing. Love it!!!
More of this please! This was riveting, informative, and funny.
This is one of the best interviews I’ve ever seen.
I can’t help but feel like a large source of the problems with the media originated when we changed from the news being a public service to requiring the news to be profitable.
Absolutely agree, the business models are a massive contributor. There used to be more jobs and time set aside for research and fact-checking when accuracy and reliability were valued over speed and convenience. As soon as people became accustomed to getting news for free online, the business models of print and TV news fell apart. There have been some benefits in terms of accessibility and the removal of some barriers to publishing, but I find it hard to argue that the dissolution of quality standards, the loss of local news outlets, and the proliferation of disinformation silos are an acceptable cost.
Ding ding ding! Getting reliable information is a public good that can't be served by for-profit institutions.
You guys regard a differing perspective as misinformation. You're obsessed with narrative control.
For example, if I said Christians and jews eradicated every ethnicity in Europe you would call me a conspiracy theorist and a liar, but I simply have a different perspective on the same facts.
If you were to assert that jews were forced to collect taxes, I wouldn't assert that you are engaging in misinformation, I would assert that youre dumb and racist
Thank you Lovett for calling out Stewart near the end. The alarmists have been right about everything. Dems and others pointing out how fascistic the GOP have become isn't a both sides issue.
Asserting that white people earn and earned their wealth isn't fascistic. Asserting that they stole it is.
Projection is the strategy of the right.
Thank you for having this available on UA-cam xo
I cannot afford multiple subscriptions, but I love me so Jon Stewart...
This was awesome! So appreciate the truth and honesty shared within. Kudos!
If Pat Toome just said, "I didn't vote for this bill, even though it was the right thing to do and even though my constituents would want it, but just to stick it to the Democrats and for no other reason." I feel like the hardcore conservatives would still support him because the divisions and animosity among the political junkies is so pronounced. They may not even like the end result. But I do feel they would relish the spitefulness of the vote against the PACT Act and they would rationalize the position and think, "well Pat Toome still supports a bunch of other positions that I like so it's worth it."
An amazing conversation gentleman. Thank you for this! Jon Stewart + PSA boys = nerdgasam 😂👍❤️
"All I Want Is The Truth"...even if it hurts...Thanks for all you do Jon!🙃😎
“I’m sick and tired of hearing things from uptight, short-sighted, narrow minded hypocrites All I want is the truth Just give me some truth” - John Lennon wanted it 51 years ago…cringe af
Loved this. Brain candy and humor for the soul.
I'm reading Mary Trump's book about her orange uncle. It's very informative on the "no shame" point, among so many others.
The thing I love about Pod Save the World is because you talk the way people talk casually,, so your shows feel like I'm hanging out with my smartest friends talking politics.
I have no political smart friends in NC.... your all I have...
I am not American. But the way Jon articulates his thoughts and ideas of American politics makes it interesting and really thought provoking. So the discussion he has makes his interviewee really think and reason before they answer.
Absolutely love Crooked Media and so many of the amazing productions!! 😍
Strict Scrutiny is my new addiction!! 💙💙💙💙💙💙
It's almost like the profit motive in for-profit corporate news is a huge problem
This has to be one of the best things I have ever watched UA-cam. Thank you!
Brilliant guys. 4 of my favourite talking heads together. Sharing with everyone I know who’ll appreciate it! Do it again!
I would like to see Democrats stand proud about being liberal, not embarrassed or trying to down play it. I'm very proud of being liberal because of what we stand for. We are on the right or correct side of the issues that affect us all. The environment, taking care of people who need help, honesty, the Constitution, voting rights, women's rights, minority rights, and fair play, and being role models of good governance. Yes, I would prefer to hear news on how the government is legislating and crafting good bills for our rights or programs. We shouldn't be ashamed of being liberals! Great show!! I love these discussions!!
Great show all. Many points truly covered with some humor to take the edge off. Gotta do it more.
Glad Jon is back.
Jon Stewart is a true national treasure!!!! Excellent discussion!!!
Jon Stewart for President!!!!
Please keep this show going strong along with the pod. This kind of curation between the show and the pod is just awesome! Thank you for another no bullshit conversation. When are y'all getting Ben and Dan to talk about world geopolitics?
When we think this is how a conversation should be, they keep doing it better time after time. Great content.
The fact that this is the best conversation on the show, (and it is) is sad. Everyone agreed on everything and nobody learned anything.
@@parkertufts5251 Isn't consensus the point with unity freaks, regardless of truth?
@@smokeyhoodoo "Regardless of truth" could be the title of the podcast. Or the whole woke equity modern Democrat movement...
@@parkertufts5251 Reichwing bingo?
@@michaeladkins6 Maybe some other time.
9/27/22 - So happy that I found you guys, what a life changing discovery for this peon drummer.
This should be required viewing for anyone who cares about the world.
Cynical is when we get trumped out.
My twin brother has been fighting with the VA since 2014 regarding his his benefits. He has asthma, lung disease from burn pits, on top of having a genetic disorder that effects both of our lungs. It is disgusting that he sacrificed his life for our freedom (and was involved in action during the war) to come home and be treated like trash.
Another real conversation. Thanks so much for keeping the Socratic method alive in these new Dark Ages.
At 24, I left the USA in 1987 and got a world-class Masters degree for the princely sum of $300/ year at a public university in France, a country that has one of the highest levels of taxation in the world.
Many of my very successful American friends envy my lifestyle. Why?
Because in this country, and in practically every other developed nation, we get real value out of our tax dollars, not just bloated budgets for armed forces, quasi-military law enforcement and the privatized prison industrial complex.
Affordable health care, affordable education, affordable mass transit, and a social safety net that continues to reflect basic values of empathy and solidarity, despite the cases of abuse and, increasingly, frontal, ideological attacks on institutions that create and uphold the middle class: these are the staples of advanced capitalist democracies.
What dismays me is the creeping “Americanization” of European political discourse. The thin edge of the wedge has been the UK since Thatcher came to power over forty years ago. More recently, we see authoritarian governments in Hungary and Poland aping this “populist” anti-people ethos, with the threat of other countries following suit, in France, Sweden, Italy and who knows where else.
Bill Maher gets it right when he says, “Human beings just aren’t good people.”
Lmao Lovett needing chaperones seems like it could be accurate outside looking in😂
Interesting discussion. I'm sure many watching this saw the clips of Mick Lynch from the railworkers' union 'owning' the media here in the UK.
He has become something of a celebrity here for his straight 'no bullshit' answers that cut through the usual anti-union nonsense the media tends to concentrate on. For me this shows there is a craving for authentic, working class and left wing voices.
He explains his ability to cut through the rubbish as being forged in the canteens of workplaces where he's been accountable to members with acute BS detectors. We need mechanisms to promote these sort of people into politics. Here in the UK this used to be via the unions but they've have been decimated over the last 30-odd years.
There is a want for this sort of discourse but as with the Democrats in the US, the Labour Party in the UK shies away from it, perhaps has lost the ability to talk about politics except as narrowly defined by the corporate media.
Not only is there a want for people to hear voices that represent their intersests I believe there is a need because without them people turn to populist demagogues.
I’ll have to watch this several more times to just grasp the subtleties of the insights in this. It is heartening to know that there exists such intelligence in the world.
I don't know much about how congress works behind the scenes so I am appreciative of Jon giving kudos to legislative aides. It's been obvious in the last 5 years how uninformed many congress people are and it's reassuring that bright minds are doing the research and trying to inform who they are assigned to.
Probably a mistake to have a stroke..That's my kind of humor! People say..oooh too far..but I'm peeing myself from laughing too much...
America has a media aristocracy, a few men whose names alone remind us that there were long stretches of time when the news was reported with clarity, honesty, and integrity. Edward R Murrow, Walter Cronkite, we all know the catalogue. It's a short list.
For some time now, it has seemed obvious that Jon Stewart is and will be remembered as one of those people.
He is essential in the world as it is today.
Absolutely and anyone really asking questions about St. Dept policy is censored George Seldes Izzy Stone Robert Scheer Chris Hedges even the guy responsible for a couple dozen progressive laws Ralph Nader is totally ignored by the Elite.The corporate tools running the country won't even take his phone calls
@@povertybay3260 Yes, I'm afraid you're right. And a man like Stewart will, with hindsight, be one of those like Murrow and Cronkite, who enter the history of America as the bedrock of what we could have been. But my lifetime of crusading idealism has failed me in the face of the reality of this country today (the roots of which go far enough back to make me actually sick).
Today, power is bought, sold, and locked down and all the honest discussion doesn't seem to make a dent. Mr. Stewart is here so those of us who are like-minded don't despair.
'Uncle' Walter was a reporter. He researched the news. He went out into the field. He wasn't a celebrity seeking narcissist like the talking heads that we're seeing 24/7. That's the other thing: the news cycle wasn't 24/7. We were given time to digest the news, think things through, discuss topics with one another. I miss that aspect of the 1950's and 1960's. Absorbing "News" now is akin to trying to carry water with a sieve.
@@cal2780 Yes, indeed. Uncle Walter was a researcher, a reporter, and a full-blown human being. Do you remember when John Kennedy was killed someone had to walk into the studio and escort Cronkite off-camera to get himself together. Stewart, who could easily have taken the celebrity route; he was moving right toward the edge of well-known "alternate" voice into the limelight when WHAM he quit. And he has reinvented himself into an amalgam (that spelling can't be right) of the best of both. It's a small club and getting smaller.
I think I started to get just a little queasy about the news when Dan Rather did a short segment on CBS News about the plight of the farmers. The camera panned to a rough wood fence in a field of green against which Rather slouched casually in an outfit right out of the LLBean catalog. That was a long time ago and was the soul of innocence by comparison, but still.
No, we have a media monopoly. 3 call moanies own all the MSM. Three.
He is so right, Jon delivery makes him my favorite political strategist and advocate today.
WOW 45 minutes in I love how Jon Stewart displays his integrity, humanity and honesty .....and listen gentlemen I believe FUCK is an important part of a conversation when one needs to make a point....sometimes it's the only word one understands.
I still don't understand why these guys don't have 10 million subscribers. Bingo to Stewart for hitting the nail on the "Big Lie".
Idk... They're clearly very smart people, but they read to me as being far too inside the system to accurately assess some of the biggest issues with the system. I'm sure they have great commentary on certain issues, but anything about the issues with the Democratic party, the media, corruption, the excesses of big money, and other issues that are at the core of the fraying of our democracy, it seems they are afraid to levy serious structural critique and instead defer to personality politics and naive beliefs in the inherent goodness of institutions.
Because they are PMC liberals, and liberals and GOP work together to block progressive action because that's what they get paid to do. Elitism is corrupt, boring and fake, that's why.
Because they are fundamentally milquetoast, low-substance centrists would be my guess.
@@KylieIsOverIt that's a big 10-4
The only thing that would have made this discussion more perfect is Ben Rhodes. Love you all! So nice to see smart people having well-informed discussions! And, no, Tommy, you are NOT space aliens!!!! You guys help me make sense of things I cannot possibly digest on my own. And you provide perspectives as well, which is something I greatly appreciate!!! I so miss Jon on The Daily Show...thankfully Crooked helps salve that void for me! Keep up the great work, all of you!
So why did you flush your soul down the toilet?
Too stupid for this world? Do you need to write a better one where I'm a demon? Because you don't belong here?
@smokeyhoodoo what is with all your weird passive-aggressive replies that have nothing to do with the OP
the more one listens the more this is an incredible conversation.
Every time I manage to catch up with Jon's podcasts, I realize just how brilliant he is - WTF can't America find someone like him to be President? 💜💜
Excellent commentary’s by super intelligent individuals. Loved it !
Never disappointed with the content/discussion here.
That was an AWESOME show, rivaling the best of JS's work.
Thanks to Jon, "Side" John,
"Middle" John, and the third panelist for their candid, brilliant, authentic
spitting of fire. My view of why we
are at this point has more to do
with the effects of late stage capitalism on us. We all work for money. But who's getting paid the most? How do billionaires with the most money to spend, deploy their cash? And how do they get the most bang for their bucks from the media?
At the end of the Reagan presidency,
Ronald let Rupert Murdoch start his
conservative media empire, Fox News. To allow them to do new things, they did away with the practice of "fair and balanced"
journalism. If you do this innocuous thing, then the end result of it
will be the end of American democracy. We didn't know this at the time. Now we do.
Since the end of the Eisenhower
Administration, the tax rates paid by businesses and their well-to-do owners have gone down dramatically. We have billionaires like Donald Trump who frequently
get away with paying no taxes. Same for many of the other billionaires like Musk, Gates, Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg,
The end result of this trend
is that the billionaire class now has more money, power, and influence than the weak Federal government.
A billionaire weasel like what's-his-name can pay his army of lawyers, his army of aides, and his
army of fawning government officials to do whatever he wants.
Unfortunately, there's no way to put this genie back into the bottle once it escapes.
What's-his-name is already ruling by
divine fiat. He's trashed the DOJ, the FBI, the congress and the senate,
brutally thrashed the media,
and completely discombobulated his inept political opponents. He's turned the people against each other, and turned the country upside down. The only thing he needs to do now, is declare victory, accept the fealty of the military and the police,
and build a new hurricane proof
capital city somewhere in Florida close to West Palm Beach. Does
anyone know what he'll call his new country yet? Foxlandia, Freedonia,
or Trumpedelphia? The revolution has already occurred people, and
it was televised! So far it's the billionaires one, and the people
nothing.
A lot to think about. Really great segment! For me it all comes down to accountability, compassion and facts
Also "middle John's a lot!" 🤣💀
Another great show-discussion. I remember back in early 1970's living in DC working in Cheverly MD reading the Parade mag I think, where they had distilled short paragraphs highlighting news of the day. I remember thinking , people will just read this and move on, never taking the time to read the full story, follow-up on footnotes or look at companion pieces. I seriously entertained making a newsletter myself based on my nursing journal articles. I was surprised hardly anyone I worked with subscribed let alone read these publications. Of course I didn't have Publisher then, so it was years later that I did do a newsletter for a time. Yeah, people like it distilled, no questions asked. Started watching Fox with Geraldo and his legal coverage of the OJ trial, and later Jon Benet Ramsey. Now Fox just has robots spewing out the same talking point of the day..over and over. I used to think they got a cash incentive based on the number of times they said it. Dana Perino was perplexed that a "secret" document could be so all fired important! She worked in the White House, signed confidentiality oaths did she not? Has her brain turned to mush? We have successfully dumbed down rather than created a truly educated electorate.
The crossover we needed but never knew we did
LOVE all four of these guys - and together is fantastic
This is such a good discussion!!!! I have to watch this a couple of times!
My two favorite podcasts together 🤘
Thx guys; excellent conversation, right-on points. I hope D’s watch/listen to this show/podcast.
For me, the split intensified just after 911: “You’re either with us or against us.” - all or none, black or white, the ‘right’ way or the highway, no room for conversation, tolerance negotiation, truth or unity, just pick a side.
These LOSER LEFTY podcasts are funded by foreign, liberal special interest groups and donors💩🤢🖕🖕 They will lose all their funding if a great nationalist like Trump gets back in (which he will😎)
This is very much how centrist democrats treat progressives nowadays ironically enough.
My skin isn't up for negotiation
I'm of the generation politicized by Jon Stewart. It's comforting to hear this type of thinking articulated so well. I often feel insane for seeing the world like this. You are all true patriots and humanitarians.
Wonderful hour of information, understanding of policy, political and media. Lots of laughs and i am going to listen to it ! 💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊