I went for the 28-70 in the, size matters and it’s a great size for travel, bringing a lighter lens means I am more likely to pick up my camera. And to be honest I get some great shots with it.
In summary, except for size and cost the Art lens is superior. Got it. I would take issue however, with your comment that the weight difference is inconsequential. The Art lens is 370gm heavier than the Contemporary. Not quite double, but close enough. Also, the price difference is $300, not $200.I get that you love your Art lens and have had it for a long time. I understand, but you are a (relatively) young professional photographer. Most of us are not. I can honestly say, that despite everything else, if someone gave me a 24-70mm Art, it would go in the closet with my Minolta glass. The right tool for the circumstance.
Well put. I think the Stefan felt in love with the overall quality of the Art lens which is understandable, and the weight factor was secondary for him. I do agree that if you are going to be carrying a lens for a few hours that the overall quality will come last.
In the lens comparison, there was a significant difference in the shutter speed (1/5, or 0.2 sec for the C, and 0.8 sec for the Art). I'd like to see an apples-to-apples comparison.
I'd love to see a comparison between the 24-70 2.8 Art on a FF body and the 18-35 1.8 Art on a good APS-C one. I recently got the 18-35 1.8 for my 7d2 and while I'm absolutely blown away by its performance so far, I'd love to upgrade to full-frame mirrorless next year.
Switched to FF recently and the 24-70 Art was one of the reasons to switch. Was a bit worried about the size after coming from M43. I just took a short trip to NYC and has no issues, it feels just fine carrying it around all day. Glad I purchased it.
@@spenson89 Zero regrets ... since I am an amateur and make literally zero money from this hobby, my strategy has been to buy Sigma zooms and Sony primes. Right now I have the Sigma 24-70 and 60-600. I also have the Sony 35 F1.4 and the 50 F1.4. Sigma has announced a 70-200 F2.8 that’s going to come out next month, and my plan is to pick that up. The only other lenses I may be interested in the future, is the 14-28 from Sigma and potentially an 85 F1.4 II if Sony ever updates it the original. The larger megapixel sensor and the smaller amount of noise per iso used has been great. I just picked up a star tracker and went out last night and took my first picture of Andromeda with the 60-600 and it is absolutely beautiful, even with zero practice of doing that on my part.
@@symbian1530 I made the switch as month ago. I’m loving it. The gear is much bigger and bulkier but as long as you are ok with that the image quality blows my old M43 system out of the water
5:50 contemporary is MUCH sharper than the Art on the edges. look at the wall outside the frame, an the edges of the circle. I know the Art is a better lens overall, but this whole review just felt 100% biased without explaining some things such as the focus accuracy, which had zero scientific tests or examples that could help conclude it. also i firmly believe 24mm is a huge difference from 28mm. most other youtubers say so as well
totally agree with you ! this review did not feel legit at all with clear bias. even when reviewing the bokeh, he mentioned that the art was a bit warmer when it was clearly more green/blue. I currently have the 24-70mm and was considering changing to the 28-70mm tho i guess the best way to see if its for me is to get one and try it out !!
Kind of lost credibility to me when he called the weight almost the same and 24 and 28 almost the same. Also try carrying them around your neck for 12hrs and then try to say that they weigh about the same. The Art is 55% heavier...
Hey man, just subbed!! Amazing review thanks for separating the 2 for me and going over specs!! Just purchased the contemporary as I couldn’t justify spending the 1k plus on the art lense as I am new to this hobby!! Thanks again
Dude, weight difference is actually one of the biggest factors. 470 vs 830g is *massive*. I am a huge fan for the sexy 24-70 but having to carry this around all day... I dunno. By comparison, the price difference is rather moderate by comparison. Oh, also the 28-70 is NOT fully weather-sealed.
Om Namaste. such a difference in image quality between 24-70 and 28-70 may be due to the fact that SIGMA has three versions of lenses: ART, SPORT, CONTEMPORARY. The CONTEMPORARY version is created for amateurs. Therefore, there may be such differences in picture quality. Thank you
Ideally but shutterspeed has no impact on sharpness when you're using a tripod. If we are dealing with extremely long shutter speeds, than even a truck passing could effect it from tiny vibrations but this is not the case here. Lenses with the same aperture are not always perfectly equal and some will let more or less light in, changing the exposure a bit. What I'm saying is this test is 100% accurate and fair and would not be flawed by shutter speed. Hope that helps.
I've got the Sigma 28-70 C and have been a bit underwhelmed. I shot some test charts today and compared it to the 16-28 C along with the Sigma 24 1.4 and it wasn't even close. You confirmed what I suspected - the ART lenses have better color and contrast. Thx!
I’ve had the 28-70 for 2 years now and feel the same. It’s also a bit too blurry at 70mm wide open. I’ll probably try selling it and getting the 24-70 instead.
I just bought the 24-70 Art discounted so much that it is only 10 dollars more than the 28-70 Contemporary. This video might be the reason why I switch xD
i'we noticed that you got diferent shutter speed on this lenses. Is it because you changed light sceene or why? On 6:16 you got 1/40 om c and 1/13 on art
I have focus hold button on my 3 Sony lenses, and like Jared Polin I never ever use it The Art weights twice as much. I don't care about the price so if I want a bigger lens I will buy a Sony 24-70 GM2.
is it really that big difference in contrast? Or maybe there was a different light etc? it is rother shocking difference. Otherwise for 4K video, there is no practical image quality difference. And small size is tempting
I might switch to a 28-70 because I kid you not I don't know what it's about my 24 to 70 whenever I have it in my camera bag and I go through TSA my bag always gets flagged and I know what's the reason it's that lens they always think I'm smuggling something which again if anyone knows what camera lenses are kind of hard to with all the mechanical contraptions are inside but they always flag my bag and they check my lens so that's an annoying process so hopefully if I get a different lens that just works as great that might make my situation better or could make it worse😅
Shutterspeed has no impact on sharpness when you're using a tripod. If we are dealing with extremely long shutter speeds, than even a truck passing could effect it from tiny vibrations but this is not the case here. Lenses with the same aperture are not always perfectly equal and some will let more or less light in, changing the exposure a bit. What I'm saying is this test is 100% accurate and fair and would not be flawed by shutter speed. Hope that helps.
I'm trying to figure out if the sigma contemporary 28-70 has any close focusing/ macro capabilities. Either gonna get the sigma or sony macro 90mm. Any thoughts?
Feels like a skewed review. Your test chart comparison makes no sense. The 28-70 looks very washed out compared to the 24-70...BUT yet, your sample photos, including the side by side at 3:48, contrast wise, they look identical. Further in the samples, you even state, "You may be hard pressed to find the differences."
yeah, he did different shutter speed for contrast test. 1/40 is significantly faster shutter speed compared to 1/13 and yet exposure levels are almost the same. He must have messed with lighting in his room which led to lower contrast image, maybe light bounced off of something or something like that. Or it could be that his light source got into lens at a specific angle and then reflected inside the lens which led to higher exposure levels and then he stopped it down a little to make it comparable. Whatever the case the test wasn't done properly. It is possible to check sharpness this way, but contrast is just plain wrong. First red flag should've been for him is different exposure levels. As it is right now it's just not comparable. Seeing stuff like that half assed sort of taints the reputation of a reviewer for me. I've seen reviews of 28-70 comaring it to tamron 28-75 and while sigma is softer they have similar contrast, I refuse to believe that there's that big of a difference between [sigma 28-70, tamron 28-75 mk1, mk2] vs [sigma 24-70] in contrast. Hell I even had tamron 28-75 2.8 mk 1 and sigma 28-70 and they had simmilar contrast... And This guy says that 28-70 is washed out compared to 24-70??
Which one are you going for?
love that art... with money problems😁🥲
835g vs. 470g. The weight difference is huge. One is better for local and landscape use, and the other is better for travel and street.
That Art lens pushed me into full frame. It’s my workhorse and a stunner, particularly outdoors.
I went for the 28-70 in the, size matters and it’s a great size for travel, bringing a lighter lens means I am more likely to pick up my camera. And to be honest I get some great shots with it.
In summary, except for size and cost the Art lens is superior. Got it. I would take issue however, with your comment that the weight difference is inconsequential. The Art lens is 370gm heavier than the Contemporary. Not quite double, but close enough. Also, the price difference is $300, not $200.I get that you love your Art lens and have had it for a long time. I understand, but you are a (relatively) young professional photographer. Most of us are not. I can honestly say, that despite everything else, if someone gave me a 24-70mm Art, it would go in the closet with my Minolta glass. The right tool for the circumstance.
Well said i was gonna say the same. That's why i avoid watching reviews because they all end based on specific needs.
Well put. I think the Stefan felt in love with the overall quality of the Art lens which is understandable, and the weight factor was secondary for him. I do agree that if you are going to be carrying a lens for a few hours that the overall quality will come last.
In the lens comparison, there was a significant difference in the shutter speed (1/5, or 0.2 sec for the C, and 0.8 sec for the Art). I'd like to see an apples-to-apples comparison.
If you're talk about the sharpness comparison, they are both on a tripod.
I'd love to see a comparison between the 24-70 2.8 Art on a FF body and the 18-35 1.8 Art on a good APS-C one. I recently got the 18-35 1.8 for my 7d2 and while I'm absolutely blown away by its performance so far, I'd love to upgrade to full-frame mirrorless next year.
Switched to FF recently and the 24-70 Art was one of the reasons to switch. Was a bit worried about the size after coming from M43. I just took a short trip to NYC and has no issues, it feels just fine carrying it around all day. Glad I purchased it.
thinking about making this exact same switch (Sony A7IV + 24-70Art) coming from M43... any regrets?
@@spenson89 Zero regrets ... since I am an amateur and make literally zero money from this hobby, my strategy has been to buy Sigma zooms and Sony primes. Right now I have the Sigma 24-70 and 60-600. I also have the Sony 35 F1.4 and the 50 F1.4. Sigma has announced a 70-200 F2.8 that’s going to come out next month, and my plan is to pick that up. The only other lenses I may be interested in the future, is the 14-28 from Sigma and potentially an 85 F1.4 II if Sony ever updates it the original.
The larger megapixel sensor and the smaller amount of noise per iso used has been great. I just picked up a star tracker and went out last night and took my first picture of Andromeda with the 60-600 and it is absolutely beautiful, even with zero practice of doing that on my part.
@@spenson89I'm thinking to do the same but not sure enough
@@symbian1530 I made the switch as month ago. I’m loving it. The gear is much bigger and bulkier but as long as you are ok with that the image quality blows my old M43 system out of the water
@@spenson89 that's great! Thank for your answer and enjoy the new gear
5:50 contemporary is MUCH sharper than the Art on the edges. look at the wall outside the frame, an the edges of the circle. I know the Art is a better lens overall, but this whole review just felt 100% biased without explaining some things such as the focus accuracy, which had zero scientific tests or examples that could help conclude it.
also i firmly believe 24mm is a huge difference from 28mm. most other youtubers say so as well
totally agree with you ! this review did not feel legit at all with clear bias. even when reviewing the bokeh, he mentioned that the art was a bit warmer when it was clearly more green/blue. I currently have the 24-70mm and was considering changing to the 28-70mm tho i guess the best way to see if its for me is to get one and try it out !!
Kind of lost credibility to me when he called the weight almost the same and 24 and 28 almost the same. Also try carrying them around your neck for 12hrs and then try to say that they weigh about the same. The Art is 55% heavier...
Hey man, just subbed!! Amazing review thanks for separating the 2 for me and going over specs!! Just purchased the contemporary as I couldn’t justify spending the 1k plus on the art lense as I am new to this hobby!! Thanks again
Welcome!
How have you been liking the lens? Still trying to make that decision myself
Dude, weight difference is actually one of the biggest factors. 470 vs 830g is *massive*.
I am a huge fan for the sexy 24-70 but having to carry this around all day... I dunno.
By comparison, the price difference is rather moderate by comparison.
Oh, also the 28-70 is NOT fully weather-sealed.
05:37 that's absolutely shocking. Is there really that much of a difference or may lighting conditions played a role here?
The shutter speed is very different, guess the 28-70 has much more lighting source in that environment.
Agreed, I don't think these lenses were under the same conditions.
Yes the 24 to 28 mm difference is important because often , in my typical situation i can't back up... so it saves the shot
Om Namaste.
such a difference in image quality between 24-70 and 28-70 may be due to the fact that SIGMA has three versions of lenses: ART, SPORT, CONTEMPORARY.
The CONTEMPORARY version is created for amateurs.
Therefore, there may be such differences in picture quality.
Thank you
Great video 👍🏼 interesting to see the art against the tamron g2
In sharpness test why 1/40 vs 1/13 shutter speed? Isn't it better to test at same setting?
The comment i was looking for.
Ideally but shutterspeed has no impact on sharpness when you're using a tripod. If we are dealing with extremely long shutter speeds, than even a truck passing could effect it from tiny vibrations but this is not the case here. Lenses with the same aperture are not always perfectly equal and some will let more or less light in, changing the exposure a bit. What I'm saying is this test is 100% accurate and fair and would not be flawed by shutter speed. Hope that helps.
Very nice video thank you
I've got the Sigma 28-70 C and have been a bit underwhelmed. I shot some test charts today and compared it to the 16-28 C along with the Sigma 24 1.4 and it wasn't even close. You confirmed what I suspected - the ART lenses have better color and contrast. Thx!
I’ve had the 28-70 for 2 years now and feel the same. It’s also a bit too blurry at 70mm wide open. I’ll probably try selling it and getting the 24-70 instead.
I just bought the 24-70 Art discounted so much that it is only 10 dollars more than the 28-70 Contemporary. This video might be the reason why I switch xD
Price difference is too small to justify the "saving" :)
i'we noticed that you got diferent shutter speed on this lenses. Is it because you changed light sceene or why? On 6:16 you got 1/40 om c and 1/13 on art
Slightly different placements because of focal length and yes light would be the exact same. They are on a tripod so shutter speed isint a factor.
I have focus hold button on my 3 Sony lenses, and like Jared Polin I never ever use it
The Art weights twice as much. I don't care about the price so if I want a bigger lens I will buy a Sony 24-70 GM2.
is it really that big difference in contrast? Or maybe there was a different light etc? it is rother shocking difference. Otherwise for 4K video, there is no practical image quality difference. And small size is tempting
I might switch to a 28-70 because I kid you not I don't know what it's about my 24 to 70 whenever I have it in my camera bag and I go through TSA my bag always gets flagged and I know what's the reason it's that lens they always think I'm smuggling something which again if anyone knows what camera lenses are kind of hard to with all the mechanical contraptions are inside but they always flag my bag and they check my lens so that's an annoying process so hopefully if I get a different lens that just works as great that might make my situation better or could make it worse😅
How is a -44% weight reduction "not significant" this is crazy.
5:35 Man, you didnt shoot the lenses in the same settings. Gave an unfair edge to the Art lens..kinda.
Shutterspeed has no impact on sharpness when you're using a tripod. If we are dealing with extremely long shutter speeds, than even a truck passing could effect it from tiny vibrations but this is not the case here. Lenses with the same aperture are not always perfectly equal and some will let more or less light in, changing the exposure a bit. What I'm saying is this test is 100% accurate and fair and would not be flawed by shutter speed. Hope that helps.
5:40 - Yes that’s enough for me to consider the Art Version. 😂
I'm trying to figure out if the sigma contemporary 28-70 has any close focusing/ macro capabilities. Either gonna get the sigma or sony macro 90mm. Any thoughts?
It does not. There are a few newer Tamron lenses with close to macro capabilities but they will not replace a macro lens. Depends on your needs
@@StefanMalloch Thanks Stefan. Just bought the Sony 90mm yesterday. Works like a charm
I have the macro and love to use it for portraits. Its blows peoples minds how sharp it is when the see their photos
@@robertmcastillojr-7506 totally agree!
images look pretty much the same, and for the size difference, I prefer the 28-70 for a walkaround lens. it's much cheaper as well.
the price now, at least in Canada is $800(CAD) for the C and $1300(CAD) for the A , does this change your decision.
Isn’t Contemporary one 1099cad? 😮😢
great review!
24-70 has much better image quality
You need more sharpening on Your face
Feels like a skewed review. Your test chart comparison makes no sense. The 28-70 looks very washed out compared to the 24-70...BUT yet, your sample photos, including the side by side at 3:48, contrast wise, they look identical. Further in the samples, you even state, "You may be hard pressed to find the differences."
yeah, he did different shutter speed for contrast test. 1/40 is significantly faster shutter speed compared to 1/13 and yet exposure levels are almost the same. He must have messed with lighting in his room which led to lower contrast image, maybe light bounced off of something or something like that. Or it could be that his light source got into lens at a specific angle and then reflected inside the lens which led to higher exposure levels and then he stopped it down a little to make it comparable. Whatever the case the test wasn't done properly. It is possible to check sharpness this way, but contrast is just plain wrong. First red flag should've been for him is different exposure levels. As it is right now it's just not comparable. Seeing stuff like that half assed sort of taints the reputation of a reviewer for me. I've seen reviews of 28-70 comaring it to tamron 28-75 and while sigma is softer they have similar contrast, I refuse to believe that there's that big of a difference between [sigma 28-70, tamron 28-75 mk1, mk2] vs [sigma 24-70] in contrast. Hell I even had tamron 28-75 2.8 mk 1 and sigma 28-70 and they had simmilar contrast... And This guy says that 28-70 is washed out compared to 24-70??
me kill3
funny how weight is factor for ANYONE!!! photo is main and only factor.