What the Sony 24-70 GM DOES BETTER

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  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras 7 місяців тому +9

    We live in a time where whatever lens you buy is probably the best lens ever made. I remember back in the 20zeros when the "new" Sigma 24-70 DG EX HSM f2.8 came out and the "new" Canon EF 24-70mm f2.8L came out and both were weak as newborn kittens. The Sigma had horrible AF and the Canon had amazing but weighed as much as Volkswagen Beetle. I have also owned the Canon EF 24-70mm f2.8L Mark II, Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 ART OS, Sigma 24-70mm DG DN f2.8 ART Mark I and tested out the Sony GM as well. They are all amazing and the differences are so small its like comparing perfects with perfects. Its absolutely amazing the OPTICAL quality in lenses these days.

  • @jbello9398
    @jbello9398 7 місяців тому +9

    I needed a 24-70mm and waited 6 years for something to come up that would be budget friendly and fantastic and finally I bought it last week the sigma ii, I'm extremely happy 😊

    • @SonOfWalhall
      @SonOfWalhall 4 місяці тому

      Is it a quiet lens? Also looking at 24-70mm 2.8 options

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому

      a new Sigma 24 70mm II is about $200 more than a used Sony 24 70mm GM II. If that's the case, I'll go for the GM lens as it's lighter and still better than the Sigma lens optically, focus accuracy wise and focus speed wise.

  • @JaySea_Productions
    @JaySea_Productions 7 місяців тому +7

    In Australia, both the Sigma MKII and Sony GM II are around 2.2k AUD lol
    I own the GM II and have to say the Tight / Smooth dial is a game changer as someone who uses dual camera straps for photography I find the lens sagging and when I kneel down the lens may hit the floor. Having it on tight mode alleviates that problem completely! Not sure if the default of Sigma MK II is closer to the tight or smooth setting though?

    • @MastersOfTheHeart
      @MastersOfTheHeart 7 місяців тому

      hi mate, where did you see it for $2,2k? i'm interested to know. cheers from Melb.

    • @JaySea_Productions
      @JaySea_Productions 6 місяців тому

      @@ludovicavice3496 Digidirect, Georges Cameras price match to JB hi fi with 10% off gift cards

    • @dylangreene.
      @dylangreene. 5 місяців тому

      ya mine falls when pointing down but pretty rare for me on the sigma

  • @PNWMOTION
    @PNWMOTION 7 місяців тому +51

    I liked my own comment

  • @SidneyDiongzon
    @SidneyDiongzon 7 місяців тому +9

    Love that couch dude

    • @chrisbrockhurst
      @chrisbrockhurst  7 місяців тому +2

      Thanks man! Glad the space is finally coming together

  • @jonathanalfred9847
    @jonathanalfred9847 6 місяців тому +9

    The 2 things the Sony out performs the Sigma is with focus breathing and fps. 3rd party lenses are artificially capped to 15 fps by Sony. Personally i will never care about shooting more than 15 fps. Especially with a 24/70. Its not really a sports or wildlife focal range. And i would have to be a serious video shooter to care about focus breathing. So for me it would be the Sigma. But Sony really needs to stop with these restrictions they put in there cameras for 3rd party glass. Nikon is starting to get 3rd party glass and there is no restriction on them.

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому +1

      that is so not true. Sony outperforms the Sigma in terms of focus speed, focus accuracy and active stabilization (which will have a larger crop for non Sony lens). If you're doing manual focusing, then fine, they are about equal.

    • @_HalfDuck_
      @_HalfDuck_ 2 місяці тому

      ​@@veritas932You are using the word "outperform" very wrong dude, if the "outperforming" is not even noticeble for the client then it doesn't exist and EVEN if you want to do something about it you can EASILY correct it in 5 seconds in postproduction

    • @macknewmann
      @macknewmann Місяць тому

      What 😂 Did I misunderstand or are you saying sigma and other 3rd party lenses are capped at 15fps? I have no idea where you got this from but it’s so incredibly not true

    • @AndrewPalmerJazz
      @AndrewPalmerJazz 11 днів тому

      @@macknewmann Probably got this rumor from Sony, where they list on their website that only Sony lenses are compatible with the max burst rate. It could have also come from some other horrible source, like the legions of camera reviewers and actual Sony users who have tried it. Maybe when I was shooting with my Sigma 24-70 and my Sony 70-200 on two bodies, my camera sounds were audible to those around, and one camera was bursting at a noticeably faster rate. Lots of ways they could have come across bad information. Thank you for clearing up the record so no one is misinformed.

  • @stephen.
    @stephen. 7 місяців тому +1

    For someone in the market for a 24-70, is Sigma mark II a much better buy than the mark I? They have like a $300 usd difference right now, so I’m wondering if I save money getting the older version 🤔

  • @Daniel_Zalman
    @Daniel_Zalman 7 місяців тому +2

    The Northrups found that the Sigma missed focus quite often when focusing on the subject's eye. Very noticeable at f/2.8.

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому +1

      just pay more and get a used Sony 24 70mm F2.8 GM II. You'll not regret is. Used Sony lens is about the same as a new Sigma 24 70mm version 2 lens

  • @p.k.babacreation4505
    @p.k.babacreation4505 3 місяці тому

    which one is bettery for long lasting vedio shoot?

    • @mbcphotovideo
      @mbcphotovideo 27 днів тому

      ? That depends on the camera body. The lens has nothing to do with it

  • @ChrisSpice
    @ChrisSpice 7 місяців тому +5

    I'm the sort of person that would get the Sony for that 1% different in stabilisation, but I didn't see a lot of difference in your test. I feel like it's more true with GM primes vs non GM/non Sony

    • @chrisbrockhurst
      @chrisbrockhurst  7 місяців тому +2

      The stabilization is a lot more evident with tele lenses

    • @benwu1607
      @benwu1607 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@chrisbrockhurst this is the exact topic that has me a little flummoxed on which lens to buy - I'm looking to pick up either lens with pair as a workhorse with the FX3, primarily handheld work for documentaries, so stabilization will be super important. Like @ChrisSpice mentioned, have to say I couldn't really pick up much of a difference between the two. Anyone else have any more insight or real world experience into the difference in active stabilization between the two lenses?

  • @ahmadsenyum9754
    @ahmadsenyum9754 4 місяці тому

    If sigma mark 2 compared to sony gm old version which one best buy..?

  • @anthonysosa6792
    @anthonysosa6792 4 місяці тому

    Would you personally rather have the sigma II or a GM mark 1? I’m torn on what to do and on offer up I see the mark one in similar price to the new sigma

  • @benharveyphotography
    @benharveyphotography 7 місяців тому +4

    I really enjoyed the video and edit Chris, something a little different to your usual style. Not interested in either of the lenses though, I have the 20-70f4 and very happy with that for stills and video 😎

    • @limagepicture9023
      @limagepicture9023 7 місяців тому

      The same. I replaced my Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 with the Sony 20-70mm F4 because I had too many problems with the Sigma and I did not have the financial means to buy the Sony 24-70mm F2, 8 II.
      The 20-70mm F4 is very versatile and now with Lightroom I can further improve the Bokeh, especially with the new version.😄

    • @chrisbrockhurst
      @chrisbrockhurst  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback, was a test. Shall do more 😉

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому

      did you consider the Sigma 28 70mm F2.8 ? the Sony 20 70F4 is about the same price as the Sigma 28 70 F2.8.

  • @Hobbies4Hire
    @Hobbies4Hire 7 місяців тому +1

    Great job on the video Chris. Thanks for making it. I do love the Smooth/Tight switch on the G-Master, but the real reason I went with the Sony over the Sigma was the little switch the Sigma has instead of the focus ring tightener. That "Zoom Lock " they have isn't a lock at all, but more of a "Zoom Hold". It takes almost no pressure to get the lens to release it, and the fact that they call it a "lock" fills me with a disproportionate rage. If it actually locked onto my desired focal length and didn't allow for movement of the focal ring until manually disengaged, I would have likely bought the Sigma. But the day after I picked up the pre-production version of the Mark 2 Art lens, even while acknowledging that it is still a spectacular lens that is a vastly better buy than anything in its class, I ordered the Sony.

  • @kayalshooting
    @kayalshooting 7 місяців тому +2

    I have the Tamron 28-75 1st version would you pick the new sigma if you were in my place

    • @sashinger5230
      @sashinger5230 6 місяців тому +3

      Yes!

    • @sandeepraiphotography2111
      @sandeepraiphotography2111 4 місяці тому

      i'm actually considering it along with the GM mark II as recently I have noticed when shooting events in low light my Tamron 28-75 mark I struggles to focus every once in a while and I lose some shots. For example for about 860 shots on the last event, about 10-12 were out of focus. The auto focus performance is also a bit slower and I need something a bit faster in low light. Will need to research more though.

  • @PeterCrosbyIII
    @PeterCrosbyIII Місяць тому +1

    The Sony 24-70 GMii is absolute gold. The finest middle trinity lens made for Sony.

  • @Rxd315
    @Rxd315 7 місяців тому

    Would you rate Sigma's zoom ring as 'smooth' or 'tight' compared to Sony? And how does it compare in terms of weight balance? Previous version was quite front heavy.

  • @rubenramirez8241
    @rubenramirez8241 6 місяців тому

    Compared to the original Sony 24-70 GM how much better is this one? I’m looking to buy a 24-70 and found the original 24-70 GM at the same price as the New Sigma 24-70ii. Which one would you recommend?

  • @WillChidlow
    @WillChidlow 7 місяців тому +6

    Great video, loved all the different angles and shots. As a Sigma mk i owner I dont think i'll be upgrading, at least not for a while

  • @PiecesofVinyl
    @PiecesofVinyl 7 місяців тому +1

    Never mind these very good and awesome lenses - where did you get that hat? I have been looking for a "no logo" nice baseball cap for sometime!

  • @sanjaymistry4546
    @sanjaymistry4546 7 місяців тому +1

    Fab video mate, thanks for the comparisons. I would ask...... V2 lens - Tamron vs Sigma vs Sony, for a casual shooter - which would you recommend? I feel that'd be great video - the 3 "kit lens" war ha!

  • @artmaltman
    @artmaltman 7 місяців тому

    Tony Northrup had some eye autofocus problems with his test version of the Sigma v2. Have not heard of others having this problem.

  • @MilesCooperUK
    @MilesCooperUK Місяць тому

    They zoom in different directions, which is a big factor for me. If om swapping from my gm 70 200 to this, my brain is going to have a fit.

  • @kempy2
    @kempy2 Місяць тому

    i have been using my 24 - 70 sigma V1 lense for a while now and never know Breathing comp wan't avalable. I also have a sony 24 prime lense so i hade breathing comp enabled on that lense and just asumed it was enabled on my 24 - 70 never notice till now. its such a small amount on the lense its so slight that you can get away without it.
    also the 24 - 70 may not be parfocus but its almost par focus. you bearly lose much focus where you can get away zooming in and out. if you have auto focus on it is bassicly poar focus
    Still not as good as a real parfocus lense tho.

  • @BlueHawk80
    @BlueHawk80 6 місяців тому +4

    Sigma is still the way to go for 95% of all people. Also pretty clickbaity title.

  • @wedworkflow
    @wedworkflow 7 місяців тому

    Is the sigma still stay warmer than sony?

  • @alliswell2488
    @alliswell2488 7 місяців тому

    Sigma or g master Any suggestions?

    • @chrisbrockhurst
      @chrisbrockhurst  7 місяців тому +3

      That’s what this video is about 😅

  • @RiccardoGabarriniKazeatari
    @RiccardoGabarriniKazeatari 7 місяців тому

    My reason to spend double is not in the video. When I bought the Sony, the new Sigma hadn't come out yet. The old Sigma and the Samyang were way heavier, the Tamron starts from 28mm. So I had to buy the Sony. Great lens, but the price was infuriating, even more so now that Sigma has shown how much should cost a very good 24-70 f2.8

  • @paulg3388
    @paulg3388 7 місяців тому

    thanks for the great Video Chris as always. Much appreciated. On another unrelated subject as I had been meaning to ask you this. As you come from the UK, you will probably know it isn't easy or almost impossible to get a decent storage drawer system like the ones you all have in Canada and the US. Kind of limited to Tool chests which are ok but not the solid quality you have out there,. Due to the size of the things the import costs are extra huge :) So my question is; Did you take anything from the UK to Canada with you and if so where did you buy it/what brand? if not, can you suggest a good brand so that I can see if I can get something sent across from Canada. I have done my research so really not being lazy here Chris .. just not as easy as I thought it would be !! thanks

  • @DaveRhanmia
    @DaveRhanmia 7 місяців тому +1

    My dream lens would be:
    16-35mm sony f2.8
    35mm 1.4 gm
    50mm 1.4 gm or 1.2 gm
    85mm 1.4 sigma
    105mm 1.4 sigma
    70-200mm 2.8gm
    I don’t think you would need anything else for any job in my opinion, 24-70mm i just find it useless but sigma is releasing 24-48mm f1.8 that could be way better. Keep up with your vids great job 🎉🎉

    • @chrisbrockhurst
      @chrisbrockhurst  7 місяців тому +3

      That new sigma lens looks very interesting

    • @DaveRhanmia
      @DaveRhanmia 7 місяців тому

      @@chrisbrockhurst they’ve just released released the sigma check it out

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому

      that lens weighs close to 1kg. It's not something that you would call an everyday carry lens. You can only use it for very specific purpose and then keep it in the cabinet most of the time due to it's weight.

  • @Bo_Hazem
    @Bo_Hazem 7 місяців тому +1

    You forgot that you can't go beyond 15fps on any 3rd party if you're considering an A1 and A9 lineup.

  • @EmileModesitt
    @EmileModesitt 7 місяців тому

    Probably important to mention that the Sony has linear manual focus and the Sigma does not. Could be a deal breaker for a lot of people.

  • @SuperHappyGiantRobot
    @SuperHappyGiantRobot 6 місяців тому

    I honestly can't afford either. I am looking to either get the OG 2-70 Sony, or the OG Sigma 24-70.

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому

      just get used lens.

  • @pinikpikantv3555
    @pinikpikantv3555 6 місяців тому

    Broo I am happy with the v1 .
    350$ but with duat issues still diy cleaning it though.
    Paired with GM 24 1.4 v1, 55z, 90G and 35z pancake. Gotta seel 35 z 2.8 now and my tamron 20 . Definitely prime is really better slightly specially in low light as I own an 7r3 and 6100 . Learnt the bad way that prime alone is not enough. Always bring a zoom lens. I missed a lot from the last wedding I covered swapping lenses. Not a pro but pros will cringe looking some of my shoots as I use great apps post process.

  • @jamesf3382
    @jamesf3382 7 місяців тому +5

    My Sony 24-70 2.8 GM II became very dusty inside after a couple of months of use

  • @pedrol.5417
    @pedrol.5417 4 місяці тому

    Very good video. Thanks. I will go for the new Sigma 24-70 It is a monster lens for what you pay.

  • @limagepicture9023
    @limagepicture9023 7 місяців тому +1

    What you say about the dust problem on the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 DG DN first version is false. I bought it two years after its release and not only did I collect dust very quickly but I also had off-center lenses and autofocus problems.😟
    No, really, I prefer to wait for feedback from people around me in a few weeks or even months to get a real idea of ​​this new Sigma lens before considering a purchase.🧐
    $1100 is not a small amount of money and the way you talk about it, it seems like everyone is rich.😞

    • @chrisbrockhurst
      @chrisbrockhurst  7 місяців тому +1

      I’m confused, I said it had dust issues and you’re saying that’s false but then you had dust issues

    • @limagepicture9023
      @limagepicture9023 7 місяців тому

      ​@@chrisbrockhurst The dust problem does not only concern the first series of Sigma 24-70mm f2.8.

    • @Daniel_Zalman
      @Daniel_Zalman 7 місяців тому +1

      @@chrisbrockhurst No, he's saying the subsequent batches also had major dust issues (at least some of them).

  • @a55tech
    @a55tech 3 місяці тому

    dang it I see the difference when he zoom in like that and will have to lose more money
    but it's just a rental so not too bad

  • @noelbenjaminfernandez3289
    @noelbenjaminfernandez3289 7 місяців тому

    Man. still contemplating whether to get the Sony 24-70 2.8 GMii, or the Sigma 24-70 2.8 ii, or its new Sigma 28-45 1.8.
    Decisions, decisions.

    • @quanzski
      @quanzski 5 місяців тому

      What did you end up getting? I’m holding off because there’s a rumored 17-55 F2.8 from Sigma coming out in September.

    • @noelbenjaminfernandez3289
      @noelbenjaminfernandez3289 5 місяців тому

      @@quanzski I'm loving my 24-70 2.8 GMii now. It has that special character coming from the photos, something you cant quantify until you actually see your photos. It's awesome. And i have like 11 other lenses.

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому

      if you're contemplating, that means the GM price is not an issue. In that case, just go for the GM as it's lighter than the Sigma and that is a very objective parameter.

  • @thefridaynightboi
    @thefridaynightboi 7 місяців тому

    Can’t wait to cop that new sigma mk 2. I guess if I was a professional and I actually make money with videos and photos I’d perhaps pick the Sony but man the half price is huge

  • @veritas932
    @veritas932 2 місяці тому

    the Sigma is 100g heavier than the GM. you missed out on that point. So if money is not an issue and weight is an issue, then the GM lens is the first choice. Pretty strange that Sigma is still heavier than GM II as there were so many complaints that the first version was much too heavy.

    • @yeyuan1738
      @yeyuan1738 2 місяці тому

      No it's 695g vs 735g, Chris did mention this.

  • @_FrontFootFilms_
    @_FrontFootFilms_ 7 місяців тому

    There's a 24-70 F2 coming. Hopefully that one will be the best.

    • @Grr8jon
      @Grr8jon 7 місяців тому +1

      I want this the most....but I get a feeling it's going to be really heavy.

    • @_FrontFootFilms_
      @_FrontFootFilms_ 7 місяців тому

      @@Grr8jon agreed. fingers crossed.

    • @charlieshufflin1019
      @charlieshufflin1019 4 місяці тому

      When?

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому

      oh yes, and then it's going to weigh 1.3kg. No thank you. My bag is heavy enough as it is.

  • @touchtennis
    @touchtennis 7 місяців тому

    I got a workout just watching you run around your office.

  • @Mraz75
    @Mraz75 7 місяців тому

    Hahaha why blame the 24-70 GMII? But it is a good strategy to promote the new Sigma lens. I pity the Sony GMII lens, now i am leaning towards to buy GMII lens.

    • @chrisbrockhurst
      @chrisbrockhurst  7 місяців тому +1

      Haha oh I love mine, Just a simply way to compare em

    • @Daniel_Zalman
      @Daniel_Zalman 7 місяців тому

      @@chrisbrockhurst So, it's worth it for you, but you suggest everyone else buy the Sigma? Interesting.

  • @tobyncummins
    @tobyncummins 4 місяці тому +1

    Feels like Sony are becoming the Adobe of camera lenses 🤔

  • @just_peppe_proto_86
    @just_peppe_proto_86 День тому

    Personaly I don't like Both, I love the new Sony G Master 28-70 F2.

  • @mrmonday42
    @mrmonday42 7 місяців тому +1

    I think sharpness is going to be the deciding factor for most people.

  • @GreigBooth
    @GreigBooth 7 місяців тому

    The sony is 50% more then the sigma in New Zealand. For 50% more is it more justifiable to go Sony?

  • @cervantessolim
    @cervantessolim 7 місяців тому +1

    What it does better is cost twice as much is

  • @rohitmohanty2211
    @rohitmohanty2211 6 місяців тому +1

    I got the Sigma 24-70mm M2 couple of days back, also put it to test at a full day event.
    Auto Focus is fast
    Sharpness is great
    Feel of the lens is also great
    I have used the GM 2 24-70mm many times, usually rent. It is a superb lens and over all I have used it to shoot professional ads as well. Comparing both lenses Sigma is great for individuals who don’t have to shoot something super super super professional, Get the GM 2 only if your u want a super super great quality out of your camera

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому

      not true. Get the GMII if you want a lighter lens. Weight is an important parameter in lens choice. If weight is not a constraint, I would have a lot of lens in my bag.

  • @SPDTDL
    @SPDTDL 7 місяців тому +1

    Tried 2 copies of the Sony, both tilted 😢

    • @chrisbrockhurst
      @chrisbrockhurst  7 місяців тому

      Ouch! That’s bad luck

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому

      just return it and get a replacement

    • @SPDTDL
      @SPDTDL 2 місяці тому

      @@veritas932 naaa, I'm not playing the lottery. Got some primes instead.

  • @lazaroantoniozundaherrera2706
    @lazaroantoniozundaherrera2706 4 місяці тому

    Never never...a sigma art have a problems off sealed...sharp is almost identical...15 fps in a 24 70 2.8😅😅is a joke...no one uses this focal length..for sports...price...sony is overol price

    • @veritas932
      @veritas932 2 місяці тому

      in this range, better to go with primes and then above 70mm, go with zoooms. There are so many choices for primes in this range from third party lens.

  • @strippedlist
    @strippedlist 7 місяців тому

    What Gerard says doesn't matter anymore....he is not a creator of videos or photos...he is a product tester by reading the specs and new features....

    • @chrisbrockhurst
      @chrisbrockhurst  7 місяців тому +2

      I think he may do a little more than that

    • @kingcutttt
      @kingcutttt 7 місяців тому +1

      What more does he do? ​@@chrisbrockhurst

    • @strippedlist
      @strippedlist 7 місяців тому +3

      @kingcutttt last time.i saw him do a lens test was a sigma 40mm 1.4 Canon mount I believe...he shot the rust on a car....:))))

  • @HarrypotterGraffandra
    @HarrypotterGraffandra 7 місяців тому +1

    I won't one camera I am from India 🇮🇳

  • @HarrypotterGraffandra
    @HarrypotterGraffandra 7 місяців тому +2

    I won't one came I am from india

  • @robertbalkovec4087
    @robertbalkovec4087 7 місяців тому

    Obviously, Sony is the winner here. Time will tell how much dust can get into it.

    • @ulyssessait
      @ulyssessait 7 місяців тому

      true. gm has bad dust issue. easily gets inside.

  • @GiveMeP0wer
    @GiveMeP0wer 5 місяців тому

    Still using sigma 24-70 mark 1, and feels great. Dust doesn't bother me.
    And when it was bothering me, I was able to clean it myself. By removing the front element as shown in the youtube video.
    And even now on big projects, some directors who look at the picture from my lens and from GM, prefer sigma because it has its own mood