Sigma 28-70 2.8 DN vs Sigma 24-70 2.8 ART for Sony (Does SIZE Matter?)
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This is a REVIEW of the Sigma 28-70 2.8 for Sony E Mount Mirrorless Cameras. Should you go with this lens or the more expensive Sigma 24-70 2.8 Art for Sony? In all honesty, it's not much more to go with the Art lens. Yes, it's slightly heavier, but it's an ART lens and it goes wider, to 24mm. Non the less, this is my review, you can check out sample RAW files at this link. froknowsphoto....
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Easy, buy both - one is for biceps training, the other one for the trizeps.
Because you can zoom more?
Jared, please explain one more time the 300 dollar difference (time stamp 12:01) between 1099 USD and 899 USD 🙈
Good catch.
I came to the comments to roast him for it too 🤣
😂😂😂
Well it’s $300 as of now! $100 off so I copped 🤣✊
I really enjoy your approach to these reviews. "does it do the job" is so much more effective than counting bokeh blades or looking at contrast and grain at 1000% mag. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) photography lives primarily on social media which will be destructively downsizing images anyways. Does it get the job done? cool. send it.
Once you go 24, you never go back. 28 just does not seem wide enough.
Unless it’s the rf 28-70 f2
@@froknowsphoto good point - I’ve never used it, but would bet that extra light and bokeh is worth it in the right situation.
@@froknowsphoto I doubt if that's the matter though. I really can't relate with you carrying a hefty lens which weights about 4 pounds only for 1 stop of more light, sacrificing the most useful dramatic wide end I do need! In every zoom lens I find the range coverage way more important than the brighter aperture. If the background blur is the matter, then that 28-70 f2 can't do anything as near as a f1.4 prime lens or even a 70-200 f2.8 lens with the same weight.🤷
@@Michael-uo1qv haha light.
I own the 28-70 f2 and agree with this message.
Been furiously researching this lens for the past few weeks in the hopes of pairing it with an A7C. Glad Jared is covering it.
Did you pull the trigger? If yes, how you liking it?
@@rammurthy7686 I’m so close to getting it (next 3 weeks or so) I’ll give you an update if I remember to 👌🏽
@@helixviper5782 any updates?
@@codetony2996 hi, since I was able to secure more money, I’ve preordered the A7IV and plan to get the 24-70 f2.8 GM. It doesn’t look like I’ll be getting these lenses after all
@HelixViper any regrets? I think the Sigma is better than the original 24-70 GM.
I would just use the lens correction profile to get straight lines. I guess it's not immediately available, but before it is you can make and use your own "rough correction profile".
I have the Sigma 24-70. It is hefty, but I’m so happy I went with it for my a7iii. I also have the Sony 28-70 kit lens that I can use if I need to save space, but it’s not my fav.
No! I regret getting my Sigma 24-70 now. I loved it at first but because of the weight, I had to upgrade to a heavier duty gimbal which in turn made the whole setup heavier. And I'm a small guy. I wish I would have waited for this one
I have the 28-70 but would like to have 24-70 if you want we can change.
Your presets are mysteriously always on sale ahah ! But I love your content, I'm a big fan 🌷
Because no one would pay for it at that price if they didn’t think it was a deal
business strategy aha
Sigma makes the best lenses. Quality and price-point are too great to pass up, I swear
Dude. I opted for the Sigma Art and have gotten incredible results from it. In static situations. In sports photography, the zoom’s reverse twist from my GM’s lenses was a real problem for me. It’s a bit of a learning curve to zoom correctly. Since i shoot HS sports, I think if i had it to do over, I’d go with the GM. No YT reviewer addressed the reverse zoom of the Sigma vs GM phenomenon. Great video, though
Agree i hate the reverse zoom
A camera won't correct 3rd party lenses but once you load the files into lightroom, aren't there lens profiles to correct the distortion, making it a non-issue? (Even if the lenses are new there will eventually be profiles available I guess)
Yes and the lens profile for the 24-70 is incredible in Lightroom.
@@thegeneral123 I wonder why Jared didn't mention it at all...
@@loukashareangas4420 Probably because his channel is more US centric entertainment than factual. Plus a good percentage of his videos are more focused on pimping his own stuff.
@@thegeneral123 haha, you got some points there!
I love seeing you take photos of artists and workers in their natural habitat
DN actually stands for deez nuts. Everybody knows that #vugang
so glad it passes the wind tunnel test. its a deal breaker for me.
Very helpful and informative as always! Thank you so much Jared! Good luck!
Real men wear pink.
@Real Vision Finance huh?
Mean while us Canon RF users are yet to get one sigma lens while Sony has dozens of choices....
my decision point to go Sony
@@RandomTheories Ehh. I'm way to invested at this point with EF glass and accessories and so on. But would be nice if sigma stopped and actually made lenses for other brands instead of just sony
Jared, thank you for this review! May I ask why you use a Lightroom instead of Capture One? I've noticed such a great difference in colours between these two! Especially in greens! This difference is visible just at RAWs from Sony cameras, I guess. But it is huge!
Look how out of focus the bokeh is looooool complimented with a head shake.. brilliant. Great review as usual
Just sold my Tamron 28-75 f2.8 after 2yrs for the Sigma "bigger brother" 24-70 f2.8 that 28 just got really on my nerve even tho I own the Tamron 17-28 f2.8 too, but if I really just wanna carry 1 lens I need that 24mm! also JARED what do you think of the 14-24 Sigma lens? is it worth the upgrade from the Tamron 17-28???
my dear sir i have been looking for a camera under 100$ can you tell an idea to get a good one for the price
Just got the Tamron 28-75 in the mail yesterday...but am happy with the few tests I shot with it. Glad to know Tamron is a company with investing in (Sony lenses are expensive, and I didn't know this existed until now haha).
& NOW TAMRON IS RELEASING 28-75/2.8 G2
And here’s me, waiting for my 28-70 to come in the mail, reading the comments and wondering if I made the wrong decision 😅
how is it? I am looking at the 28-70 as well, mostly due to the size/weight!
@@the_mrkaryo I should say this is my first mirrorless and first mirrorless lens. I like it, it’s obviously a very good lens. It’s light and small which I preferred because I knew I was going to likely carry around multiple lenses. I did have some trouble with focusing, but I should also say since I’m new to the mirrorless game it’s honestly about 90% user error. However, yesterday I got the Sony 70-200 2.8 gm ii in the mail and although I was only able to take it out for a few minutes (I practiced on our 5 cats lol) I could tell immediately the difference between a good and a great lens. Obviously they’re different lenses in terms of focal lengths but you know what I mean. Another thing I’d mention is that it starting at 28 bothers me a little bit more than I thought it would, but now I have an excuse to get a prime wide lens. However if I was on a tighter budget I’d probably get something starting at 16 or at least 20 and try to stick to two lenses. I posted a few pictures on my instagram (it’s my name), if you’re wondering- they were taken in a tiny little house with barely any natural light and somehow I was able to get some insta worthy cat pictures 😅 I suppose to conclude the rant I’d get this lens if you either don’t need anything wider or don’t mind carrying multiple lenses around. Because I’m wondering, if I got a 20-70 (or even 17-70 etc) I probably wouldn’t even be thinking of getting another wider lens. So I saved some money (I got it for 200 off) and some weight and still got a perfectly good lens, but now I feel I need to spend more money and carry around more lenses/weight to get the kind of setup I want.
@@TerezaBarloon Thank you for the information ! The cats do look awesome indeed :D Yea, I plan on carrying at least 2 lenses, either + a wide prime or a wide portrait one, so I might be fine starting at 28mm. Thanks again and enjoy the new sony, looks like a beast :D
Wishing you all the best from Vancouver... BTW: you may want to check out the Sigma ART 24-35mm f2 at some point.
I love that lens!
Do you mean the old DSLR lens "Sigma 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art" - or is there some new model?
@@tkermi old one... but a superb niche lens
@@StreetsOfVancouverChannel Thanks for the answer. Yes, I'm sure it's a really nice lens!
I hope sigma makes a dg dn version of it soon!
I paid like $240 more and got the Art lens, just for the better build quality and that 24mm at-hand range. The only annoying thing about the 24-70 is the lens hood. That rubbery-thingy on the bottom of it gets smudged and looks pathetic.
Hi. Why don’t you make playlists for cameras and lenses based on lens mount? That will make it far more easy for someone planning to purchase the gear, wouldn’t it?
Although I am a fujifilm x shooter I am still watching you 😊 and sorry to correct you again after the tiger this time it is about math, between 899 and 1099 the difference is only 200 not 300 😊 🙏
What about this vs. Tamron 17-70 f2.8?
How does the auto focus on the Sigma 24-70 compare to the new G2 version of the Tamron 28-75 for sports and live events?
As a video shooter which one would be best for autofocus on a Sony A7III?
too many sigma have the dust problem, a big mistake by Sigma, I don't know whether to choose the new Tamron G2 or the Samyang 24-70
Sony also has dust issues, my 18-200 OSS had some dirt after just 5 months under the front lens.
The 28-70mm f2.8 is a great replacement for the Sony Kit lens. But probably won't do as well until there are more websites referring it as the "Best" 28-70mm lens for the Sony e-mount. Or if you're a photographer that used to have a 24-70mm f2.8 for your DSLR and upgraded to a Sony mirrorless, you may miss that extra 4mm on the wide end by going with the 28-70mm f2.8
Did you go the Woodstock Festival in 1969? Great review, I might go with the new Sigma 28-70 because it's smaller and lighter). Thx!
i just bought the 24-70 art and just did a shoot of a live band, watching this while i import my photos
What you gain by just giving 4mm of focal length range is worth it. I mean there isn't much difference between 24mm and 28mm anyway.
On the wide angle those 4mm really makes a difference. In small interiors, where you don't have much room to step back it can define whether you do photo or not. In this case it is 75 degrees on 28-70 versus 84 degrees on 28-70, it is a huge difference considering the number of mm.
@@bartomiejgoebiowski3614 Dude interior design photographers don't really use 24mm, they use anything from 12mm to 16mm. So your point although has a concept it isn't really valid regarding standard zooms.
@@johnadams3038 Im not talking about interior design photography, sometimes you have to shot a family party (or anything like that) in really small room, then those 4mm could save your life.
@@johnadams3038 of course in most cases it is not so important.
@@bartomiejgoebiowski3614 Still it's not that big a deal. The chances of 4mm ruing completely a moment are going to be almost zero considering the advantages of the more compact lens and the lighter lens
"It's gonna be perfectly fine on the E-mount..."
Yeah, and the L-mount, which now does a lot of things better, at 70% of the price.
You know Fros probably failed his maths lesson back in high school when he thought the price difference was $300
Is the Tamrons full body protection a deal breaker against the Sigma?
is the dust issue still a thing with the 24-70 Art lense? I had heard that they were fixing it under warranty
thanks for the range comparison, most of the reviewer just forget about that smh
It could be 1 bokeh blade 🤣🤣🤣 real asf. Regular people don’t give a shit about how rounded the bokeh balls are
ugh! we need lenses for the rf mount
Every time he says Photoooo a baby kitten dies somewhere.
24-70 Art all the way. Fully weather sealed unlike the peasant 28-70. Wider unlike the peasant 24-70 and it's an Art lens, unlike the peasant Contemporary lens. There's not enough price difference to not get the better lens and while it's a chonky boy. It's very manageable as a single lens set up. Which is what I use on my A7ii.
On a gimbal 28-70mm is much easier to use. That's probably the best reason to have the lens. Or if you travel a lot.
Yeah but the dust problems...
@@raggedyexynos9487 Which were fixed with a revised design. So only the very earliest models have that issue. Had mine well over a year now and only a couple of tiny specs of dust in mine which you get with all lenses with use.
@@thegeneral123 thats good to hear
Says „all the way“ and then lists the number one reason not to go with the 24-70, which is weight. And dust issues are still being reported after the supposed „fix“, but keep shilling for Sigma…
Which lens better Sigma or Sony g master
I really need sigma to release their RF mounts 😩😩😩
But the Canon OEM's are so amazing though 🥺
@@longliveclassicmusic yeah man I just mean price wise. I was going to order thr 24-70 last week but it sold out at Best Buy and I was like is this a sign? Anywho just waiting for it to come back
Can someone tell me what’s defferent between Contemporary and Art lens on sigma?
The quality and quality contol of the lens
I switched to 28. If you go hiking, tent, sleep bags etc, then 24-70 is the pain in the a**. Even so, I'm now preferring pancake lens with lower quality but fits in my larger pocket with the camera. :)
Prestige Worldwide deserves its own soundbite.
When does fro pack 0 arrive which will convert images to a single color per preset
The 24 70 was way better for me on an A7R iv. I sent back the 28-70 pronto.
why?
@@factsnchill168 Much sharper wide open. Grabbed focus better. AF better.
@@parmanduke I’ll get the 24-70 then 😁
When we getting a Nikon 50mm 1.2S review?
I've gotta pick it up again.
DN stands for what again 😏?
Deez nuts
@@froknowsphoto my man
Man... I wish these prices were Canadian... Canadian prices fricken suck...
I feel like Jared is almost softer on the Sigmas than he is on native brands that cost more money. It's funny but I like it.
Thank you so much 💓
Thanks so much for the video Jared! Have you had the chance to look into the Samyang 24-70mm f2.8 yet? It would be incredible to see your review of that lens since some reviewers say it's better than the Sigma Art, almost on par with the first gen Sony GM glass.
I'm surprised those guns could handle dainty 💪😲
does size matter? no its the performance haha
That's what she said 🤣
"L-MOUNT ALLIANCE (that nobody cares about, nobody uses)." Hmm. That didn't age very well. I guess Jared is a Sony fanboy?
Am i th only one that finds the sigma 24-70 missing focus too often on video??
I HAVE A 28-70 2.8!!
(for the f mount 😖)
Well I think the price difference is not even the case comparing those two Sigmas. It's only matter of weight and size! Which is not a small thing itself, come on Jared all photographers dn't have those f***in big muscles you have!
I still prefer more space with 24mm.
Hahaha love the L mount alliance but
I would go with Sigma 24-70 but the reverse zoom, dust issue and size & weight of it really prevents me from buying it but at the same time, it would be nice to have that extra 4mm on the wide end.
I think Tamron 28-75mm G2 lens is much better if you don't care about the extra 4mm on the wide end.
Heard they fixed the dust problem now
@@fffernxndo how do you know wich model has this fixed? Im looking to buy used not sure what to do
@@ajgallegos7432 I’m not entirely sure I just know the newer ones had it fixed, but I’m guessing if you go on Reddit you can find out with ones
I care about the L-Mount Alliance.
That rainbow drip
The Sony and Canon shoooooow.
You got rid of the nice brick for the actual Canon 28-70. Rip brick.
Why did they make this a contemporary vs a art? Is it missing some coatings?
It's similar to how a GM is not the same as a G lens. The ART lenses are like a GM lens and the contemporary are like G lenses. ART and GM lenses are superior in their optical design but they are also heavier, more expensive and more premium.
@@benldr the G lenses are missing coatings buttons and the aperature dial. Im still confused 😅
@@Roysphotos8 no, some of the newer G lenses have aperture rings, focus buttons, coatings, and weather sealing while some of the older GM lenses don't have aperture rings or some of the newer features in the G series lenses. It really comes down to optical performance. For example, the new 20-70mm F4 lens has heavy distortion and vignetting on the wide end that is corrected in camera in order to have a smaller and lighter design. A GM lens is as close to optically perfect as possible. Size and weight come secondary to optical performance because it is considered a "professional lens." This being said, it doesn't mean that the images from G lens are bad. GM lenses are simply top tier in terms of performance. Interestingly, the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 ART lens was lighter and had a closer focusing distance than the original GM lens and was superior in some ways.
@@benldr like which ones ? U may get the rings but u never get the coatings.
@@Roysphotos8 the new 20-70 I just mentioned has not only one AF button but two as well as a clickable and declickable aperture ring as well as a AF/MF switch, Two XD (Extreme Dynamic) linear motors, a minimum focus distance of 9.8in. It only weighs 1.68lbs. 9 aperture blades. Almost no focus breathing. Fluorine coating on front lens element. Dust and moisture-resistant design. The only thing is the inferior image rendition when shooting in raw with out in camera image correction and the F4 aperture. The benefit is the lighter weight and size. A "professional" lens like a 24-70 f2.8 GM is going to cost much more because of the faster aperture and superior optics. It is also going to be much larger and heavier. I'm personally thinking about picking up the 20-70mm vs a 24-70mm f2.8 Sigma because the size, weight and wider focal length would be very beneficial to me with travel photography and I have 3 prime lenses to compliment it when shallow depth of field or low light performance are needed.
Id rather have 24 to 60 if it needs to stay compact
Or a 20-50
That’s so much more compact
24-70 is better by every means I don't think weight is an issue now a days even a cheaper gimbal can handle heavy weight as a videographer point of view.
Can Ronin Sc gimbal handle its waiting on.?
@@Rohitkrvlogs that gimbal is made for small mirror less camera. They made it for small set-up, your question makes no sense and If you want to use big expensive glass , you got the wrong gimbal sc isn't the righ choice . I'll any time choose better glass and not compromise bcoz of my gimbal,upgrade your gimbal.
@@Rohitkrvlogs or just get a stedy cam I still use a steady cam and with heavy rig it works amazing
@@hiteshpatil5933 Thank You Hitesh For your solution. I am completely angry with you
umm..not to be stickler but 1099-899= 200, just saying
I loved that " I DON'T CARE "
are your presets ever not on sale haha?
That's for lazy editing 😉
L-Mount alliance money truck backing up to your door soon!
@Jared Polin 🤔....the scientific formula for the JARAD POLIN PARADOX?
I got my Sigma 24-70 for 899 during the bhphoto sale few months back and I couldn't be happier :D
I use the S5II LUMIX. Woohoo for L mount
Nice video
L MOUUUUUUUNNNNNNNTTTTTT will be growing faster soon, since Leica, Sigma, DJI and Blackmagic are in the L Mount ALLIANCE, yeah i care about it haha Team LUMIX/PANASONIC
The environment must be dark shooting at iso 1000
Sir im from india and i am very passionate
about photography. Ut still cant afford and
im saving from last two mont i want to be
content creator
Sigma is elite
So my friend was asking me, can't I get the same snapshots with my iphone, than buying an expensive Camera and lenses?
sigma nuts!
Jared, when is Sigma going to come out with DN Canon RF mount lenses for the Canon R5 camera?
So far anyone wanting native mount RF lenses, has to pay out the big bucks to Canon. I need the trinity.
@Jared Polin You're giving me an LA phone number to call in code? Why? Have you been hacked?
you need to change your test….. smell test and blow test are outdated….. go with taste test and hairbrush test
Every mm counts
not bad
Jared, George Lucas was famous for 1 second or 2 seconds shots of something that took months to build
why ? cause we don't see it but we feel it ... fix your lines.
Everybody say 'Vignette"
Vignette
Like that hefty thickness to flex em biceps 💪🏼 lol
L-Mount is awesome, bye!
24-70mm sigma would be the better option but that dust problem....
"When the A74 comes out...."
@Jared Polin I•n••st•i•n•g i•d•e•a•s = Insting ideas? are you okay fro?
@@NoBodyKnowsWhoIAm fake profile☝🏻
Just for the record: I am an L-Mount user!
Well, we can all sleep better at night knowing that!
@@K12SXXFire 😂
Great :)
Not a grower or shower