I'm afraid I feel personally attacked on a personal level as a person. The very core of my being has been insulted and, quite frankly, this is a crime against life itself.
I'm not watching the video. The title is enough for me to say, no, as a film (Myself being unaware of the series until part two came out) Dune is amazing by itself. The scene with the war council was among the strongest "Accepting your destiny" moments put on screen. It invoked feelings in me (mostly chills) that very few films have done in the past 10 years
I respect that you enjoyed it to that extent, I just didn't and that's okay. Thanks for the comment, but I do think if you watched the video you might understand where I'm coming from. Not from a place of hostility or particular dislike towards the film, but towards the hyperbolic reaction of specific people on here. (I will admit the title and thumbnail are bait you have got me there)
@@SKTheCrusader...and I can tell you're from the other side of the pond by how confidently wrong you are about everything - despite all but admitting from the jump that you don't know what you're taking about. 😆
@@TheSleightDoctor I was born in Reading and have an English accent you thicko. I provided that information as context for what shape and direction the video would take. That I would be doing shooting from the hip commentary and not an academic or particularly typical critical analysis.
I am a huge Villeneuve fan and an avid film fan, I love cinema and have watched thousands of movies, I loved Part 1, a lot. After seeing Part 2, I was left with a feeling of disappointment. It seemed like it didn't do anything new or fresh, and the action was a bit redundant and mindless. The Harkonens to a hard backseat and we barely had time with Feyd. The whole lore is much deeper, which is impossible to adapt in a 3hrs movie. I was just left with a "Meh, it's pretty good. I guess." I am also a huge fan of the first 4 books. Everything about the movie is great, except the story. It's just kinda meh been there done that. Visuals, acting etc. 10/10 But the movie was like... 7/10. It was built up as this MASTERPIECE and it just wasn't. Jessica's role was changed from the books and the sister too and it was just very underdeveloped. As hard as it is to adapt, it could have been 30mins longer and deepen the universe and the stakes. It just kinda ended. And I didn't feel like the whole messiah complex angle was explored enough. Sure Paul is conflicted, but the switch to conqueror wad borderline instantaneous when the whole movie was trying to tell us how much he doesn't want it. It hurt the passing and impact. There's a lot to like, but there's a lot that's underwhelming. It threads on a lot of clichés at the expense of the story in the book
First of all sorry your comment is buried by 12 tonnes of horseshit, such is the nature of commenting on films I guess. You’ve largely hit upon points I made in the video, but I do like the interpretation of Jessica’s role in the film I’ve seen more than a couple convincing arguments for that. As for making it 30 minutes longer, that’s just making me wish Jodorowsky had been given his shot with this.
I drove 2 hours round trip to see this film on a sticky chair in a mid Imax theater. Let see if I can remember: When Paul waves and hollars to Stilgar from on top the worm? Cringe. When Paul "mansplains" sand walking to Chani ( yes I get that it was a bit of a goof, the gag just didn't land)? Cringe. Gurney turned up to 11 the whole time? Cringe. Trying to make atomics happen? Cringe. When the "she says/she wants to know" convos between fetus Alia/Jessica and Paul start to sound like Jessica is the go between in a arguing couple's tiff? Cringe. These are kinda nitpicks but a lot of them should not have happened under such a great director. More importantly they took me immediately out of the movie. Over and over again. I didn't HATE the film, but I def prefer the first one. 7/10 on the meh-o-meter
I'm not sure I agree with all of the specifics of what you're saying here, but the broad strokes of not hating it, preferring the first one and 7/10 are pretty much where I am.
I still haven't read Dune because, until the modern part 1 movie, I thought it was the same book as Holes, which I have read and didn't like enough to read again. I guess my brain saw two dirt/sand related titles and was like "these are the same book". Now it's on my tbr but my tbr is literally years worth of reading, so I might read Dune someday.
As someone who went into Dune part two without having any prior context of the series, not even watching the trailer, I absolutely loved it. The music and the soundscape was phenomenal. I want to watch it again. While watching, I couldn't help but see through a political lens and probably why I loved it even more. It was refreshing to see a premise where we can draw parallels to multiple conflicts happening in the world till this day, made me sad in a way but also happy that this story and narrative is getting mainstream success especially during these times. I later found out that he was also inspired by the Middle Eastern conflicts. Honestly, the movie made me want to delve into the books, which is huge considering that I don't really like reading books much. That being said, I get your point and it was interesting to hear your perspective. Personally, I don't care for Imdb rankings, I wouldn't disagree if Dune part 2 was rank 10, 50, 100 or lower but it did kinda feel like it revived cinema, probably because of the reasons you mentioned. The last time I felt this way was during Everything Everywhere All At Once lol.
I'm lost as to how anyone with good eyesight, an average IQ and enough patience to watch 3 hour long Dune 2 would still disagree with the mass honestly positive reviews. I've never read the books, but as a live action adaptation, I haven't seen anything be more captivating. Finally, I'd like to say those who gave this movie a mid or meh review simply can not do better no matter how hard they try. At some point we have to accept certain people's opinion do not even matter anymore because their biases are extreme due to their high expectations from their imagination they'll never be satisfied.
@@JayUchiha17 Firstly, I think invoking IQ is really bad form, but you gave some honest thoughts so I'll give an honest reply. You don't have to take anyone's opinion seriously or act as if they matter, that being said you took the time to reply so I guess it kind of matters to you so let me explain a little bit. What I wanted to do here was in reaction to hyperbolic videos claiming that the film was going to change cinema when I don't think it falls into that role (with the caveat that I think there's room to reassess once it's part of a completed trilogy.) I was actually "satisfied" with the film, I think there's more to like than dislike, I thought it took a notoriously difficult to adapt text and made it into a conventional and visually appealing blockbuster, which is a pretty significant achievement. That's it. It's not a position that requires invocation of "IQ" it's not something that requires you call some people's imagination "extreme". Of course everyone imagines and interprets texts in their own way, but I specifically tried to separate the adaptation from the books so that this specific issue wouldn't come up.
I understand where you're coming from, and they only reason I can see someone making such an abrasive video title is to get people's attention so they can listen to what you have to say. I've also decided to read through almost all the comments, and I saw you did too because I needed to know what type of response you expected to receive aside from all these negative responses. Maybe you're just sadistic🤷🏾♂️. But I did find out there are a few that gave a good worded plantation on your perspective (I did watch your video the first commented) All I've got to say is story wise if the movie isn't exactly like the books that's very unfortunate. It's simply not possible in our reality, and it probably won't make the same kind of money on the silver screen. Maybe because of the time, make the film, the budget, or the niche target audience. It's like doing the best you can with what you have. I guess the more you make videos, the better you'll get at making it palatable to your target audience. All they best to you sir.
Broadly agree. It was what I expect from a Villeneuve film at this point, visually fantastic but not particularly stirring (with some exceptions - mainly the Harkonnen bits). I wouldn't rank it as one of the best movies of all time but it was enjoyable and worth the watch. Glad I got to see it at an actual cinema too.
Glad there's another Harkonnen appreciator out there and yeah definitely an incredible visual spectacle, but that's not really enough for me for longer than 2 hours.
With you 100% Sinan. Its a really skillfully done adaptation of an incredibly difficult novel to adapt, and is definitely worth 7 or 8 out of ten. I really hope it brings more people to the books cos I found them mindblowing in the way people are describing the film.
I enjoyed these movies more to get an insight into what denis villeneuve got out of the books and seeing how he translate the books because what he got from the books was something completely different or very different from what I got from the book. it was a little disappointing but also encouraging because there are different ways to adapt this story and Dune adapted again and done "properly" as a series because it really needs space to breathe and get into the politics. A couple of movies is not enough. And let's be honest, it just wasn't weird enough.
There's a reason Jodorowsky wanted something like 10 hours for his planned adaptation and I do think that one of the strength's of the Lynch adaptation is that it just decided to get a bit weird with it, but I do also see the appeal of playing it straight like a conventional blockbuster. I did enjoy finding out that Villeneuve compared the Fremen to the Quebecois which is probably the funniest way to interpret them anyone could have come up with.
@@SKTheCrusader the designs for Jodoroskys version looks incredible. The only thing that bothered me was the ending. He seemed to have missed the point that Herbert was making about the chosen one narrative. I still would loved to have seen that version. Personally I dream of the animated dune that's in my head. Maybe one day.
I watched Dune part one some month ago for the first time and it got me hooked on the franchise, started reading the book. Part Two is a great movie, but I feel kinda empty, and I have to agree with your points here, it felt both rushed and dragged at the same time.
I'm glad I could give voice to some of those feelings you had about it. As you say I think there's a lot to like about the film. I just can't quite get behind "this is going to change cinema" when I think it let a lot slip through its fingers.
@@DarkoFitCoach Well it's nice to know we have some overlap even if we'll have to agree to disagree about Dune Part 2 (I just enjoyed Part 1 more, no accounting for taste)
while watching it in the cinema i definitely felt that part 1 was superior i was literally cringing at certain dialogue points in the first half of the movie like the one with chani and paul? the “stop looking at me like that” line had me crawling lmao love this movie, everything about it is perfect but part 1 was just simply better
I have to disagree and contrary to the general tone of the comments here actually step up in explicit defence. For me it was well choreographed and intense. Of all the specific parts of the film I’d almost put that beyond criticism from my perspective. That being said I’d be fascinated to hear how you’d make it more epic?
I can see how that would have worked, but I think the narrative arc clearly needed it to end at the start of the "Holy War" as I say I think there's a path to that, that doesn't feel like it's misfiring after the 2 hour mark, but it didn't quite manage it for me.
@@SKTheCrusader oh I think the end of the 3rd Gil could have had the same ending. (With the start of the jihad) BUT, the stakes to drink the water of life could have been greater. Like use more of the original time line of 2-3 years vs 9 months. Let Alia be born, let Paul & Chani have their son and have him be killed in the raid while Paul’s away. Those dramatic stakes could have been more of a tipping point to flip the table. Then the 2nd movie ends with him making the choice. Then the 3rd film is the campaign. Make the battle great, let Alia show do her thing and end it with the start of the war. Boom
Haven't seen it. It can't be better than Mid though given the number of bare faces in the clips (in daytime desert) I've already seen. Given the excitement it must be at least Mid. Now I'll watch your video ;) Definitely better than Two Towers -treatment of Gimli in LotR is an atrocity (I didn't even watch Two Towers :P) Greg Egan's Diaspora is the book I give everyone.
Do you think this is actually a substantive reply to a critique or is this just you giving yourself an excuse to keep on coddling yourself in case I make a cogent point or two?
The term "Jihad" is actually important as it relates to the source material and the overall themes. Yes, I think (probably) the studio resisted the term rather than Villeneuve and I think that resistance is rooted in the sensibilities of a largely American (or American aligned) worldview. As time goes on, I think one of the bigger things that will be looked back on as a failure of what the film is trying to say or could have achieved will be replacing "Jihad" with "Holy War". Whether you like the term, or not, it does matter and the decision to change does have impact.
It is woke regardless of you being a tryhard or not, chani is not there to be a 2007 youtube atheist yelling at southern yokels and getting undignant at paul for his political marriage.Not to mention changing kynes for no reason at all. But besides that, the movie is terrible regardless of it being woke or not, drab, grey, unimaginative visuals, hack hans zimmer "music" more akin to a sound of the beach cd, offputting casual dialogue, etc, it has the same flaws a marvel or transformers movie has but people give it a pass because it has an artsy droning veneer, probably cause the ost makes the theater shake or whatever, but it's a lifeless movie just as br 2049 was. Btw someone has to get rid of this overt cleanliness in film, it's horrendous, in br 2049 they got a garbage dump that looks cleaner than the taj mahal.
@@SKTheCrusader I agree the visual quality is much better in dune but Idk if I would say its actually much more interesting. And I havent read the book but I think the story is probably more subtle and interesting than a marvel story but I dont think the movie did a great job of telling it
@@Michalemonkey It struggled with how to use the material as I say in the video, but there's probably 10, 20, 100 videos to be done on the Dune books even with all the other people putting out great videos on them. Or at least that's how I feel about it but that's coloured by teenage reading experiences.
@@SKTheCrusader I didn't mean that the books aren't really good. I haven't read them. Just that the visuals were not that exciting to me and the pacing/tone/acting was pretty meh. Honestly with how much people love it it makes me think I am missing something
@@Michalemonkey I think that can be chalked up to different tastes, I've already sparked controversy in my discord about this so I've definitely missed something too.
@@122blazer I have to ask in all seriousness, do you think that I hate all movies because I only like this one and don't think it's going to change cinema?
@@122blazer Look, you clearly feel personally aggrieved that I didn't love the movie and that's okay, but do you really think this is a coherent or proportionate response to someone who's simply said "I think the film is a 7/10 for these reasons"? I don't think so. I'm glad you liked the film, loved it even. I think there's more to like about it than dislike, but you're projecting an attitude and a position onto me that I simply don't hold.
Sinan Al Gaib!
Only the true Dune Part Two fan would declare it mid, by their honesty they show us!
Can't believe this is how my ass is getting got on this video.
@@SKTheCrusader Yous start to believe when it consumes you.
I'm afraid I feel personally attacked on a personal level as a person. The very core of my being has been insulted and, quite frankly, this is a crime against life itself.
Hate to see it
Hard same, what the fuck next? Sinan going to come round my house and shoot my dog? They may as well have with this video etc. etc.
Thats just, like, your opinion, man.
If you're gonna be this wrong about something, I'm happy it's about a movie and not politics
If you like I can make another video about a British guy for you?
Please, no!
'Not an expert on cinema'
Too fucking right m8
You're allowed to enjoy things that aren't perfect.
Unsubbed, blocked, now a hater
Damn who will help me dodge my taxes now?
I'm not watching the video. The title is enough for me to say, no, as a film (Myself being unaware of the series until part two came out) Dune is amazing by itself. The scene with the war council was among the strongest "Accepting your destiny" moments put on screen. It invoked feelings in me (mostly chills) that very few films have done in the past 10 years
I respect that you enjoyed it to that extent, I just didn't and that's okay. Thanks for the comment, but I do think if you watched the video you might understand where I'm coming from. Not from a place of hostility or particular dislike towards the film, but towards the hyperbolic reaction of specific people on here. (I will admit the title and thumbnail are bait you have got me there)
This guy definitely pays for Disney+ and cries at Star Wars.
The scene I cry at the most? When Rey says her name is "Rey Star Wars"
@@SKTheCrusader lmao
"I'm not a film critic, nor I am an expert on cinema..."
Yeah let's just leave it there.
I can tell you're English because you clearly have brainworms (not Shai-Hulud)
@@SKTheCrusader...and I can tell you're from the other side of the pond by how confidently wrong you are about everything - despite all but admitting from the jump that you don't know what you're taking about. 😆
@@TheSleightDoctor I was born in Reading and have an English accent you thicko. I provided that information as context for what shape and direction the video would take. That I would be doing shooting from the hip commentary and not an academic or particularly typical critical analysis.
@@TheSleightDoctorthey’re clearly not American you fucking dipshit 😂
I am a huge Villeneuve fan and an avid film fan, I love cinema and have watched thousands of movies, I loved Part 1, a lot. After seeing Part 2, I was left with a feeling of disappointment. It seemed like it didn't do anything new or fresh, and the action was a bit redundant and mindless. The Harkonens to a hard backseat and we barely had time with Feyd. The whole lore is much deeper, which is impossible to adapt in a 3hrs movie. I was just left with a "Meh, it's pretty good. I guess."
I am also a huge fan of the first 4 books. Everything about the movie is great, except the story. It's just kinda meh been there done that. Visuals, acting etc. 10/10
But the movie was like... 7/10. It was built up as this MASTERPIECE and it just wasn't. Jessica's role was changed from the books and the sister too and it was just very underdeveloped. As hard as it is to adapt, it could have been 30mins longer and deepen the universe and the stakes. It just kinda ended. And I didn't feel like the whole messiah complex angle was explored enough. Sure Paul is conflicted, but the switch to conqueror wad borderline instantaneous when the whole movie was trying to tell us how much he doesn't want it. It hurt the passing and impact.
There's a lot to like, but there's a lot that's underwhelming. It threads on a lot of clichés at the expense of the story in the book
First of all sorry your comment is buried by 12 tonnes of horseshit, such is the nature of commenting on films I guess. You’ve largely hit upon points I made in the video, but I do like the interpretation of Jessica’s role in the film I’ve seen more than a couple convincing arguments for that. As for making it 30 minutes longer, that’s just making me wish Jodorowsky had been given his shot with this.
😂im sad for you honestly imagine not being able to enjoy a masterpiece and having fun
I drove 2 hours round trip to see this film on a sticky chair in a mid Imax theater. Let see if I can remember: When Paul waves and hollars to Stilgar from on top the worm? Cringe. When Paul "mansplains" sand walking to Chani ( yes I get that it was a bit of a goof, the gag just didn't land)? Cringe. Gurney turned up to 11 the whole time? Cringe. Trying to make atomics happen? Cringe. When the "she says/she wants to know" convos between fetus Alia/Jessica and Paul start to sound like Jessica is the go between in a arguing couple's tiff? Cringe. These are kinda nitpicks but a lot of them should not have happened under such a great director. More importantly they took me immediately out of the movie. Over and over again. I didn't HATE the film, but I def prefer the first one. 7/10 on the meh-o-meter
I'm not sure I agree with all of the specifics of what you're saying here, but the broad strokes of not hating it, preferring the first one and 7/10 are pretty much where I am.
I still haven't read Dune because, until the modern part 1 movie, I thought it was the same book as Holes, which I have read and didn't like enough to read again. I guess my brain saw two dirt/sand related titles and was like "these are the same book". Now it's on my tbr but my tbr is literally years worth of reading, so I might read Dune someday.
As someone who went into Dune part two without having any prior context of the series, not even watching the trailer, I absolutely loved it. The music and the soundscape was phenomenal. I want to watch it again. While watching, I couldn't help but see through a political lens and probably why I loved it even more. It was refreshing to see a premise where we can draw parallels to multiple conflicts happening in the world till this day, made me sad in a way but also happy that this story and narrative is getting mainstream success especially during these times. I later found out that he was also inspired by the Middle Eastern conflicts. Honestly, the movie made me want to delve into the books, which is huge considering that I don't really like reading books much.
That being said, I get your point and it was interesting to hear your perspective. Personally, I don't care for Imdb rankings, I wouldn't disagree if Dune part 2 was rank 10, 50, 100 or lower but it did kinda feel like it revived cinema, probably because of the reasons you mentioned. The last time I felt this way was during Everything Everywhere All At Once lol.
I'm lost as to how anyone with good eyesight, an average IQ and enough patience to watch 3 hour long Dune 2 would still disagree with the mass honestly positive reviews. I've never read the books, but as a live action adaptation, I haven't seen anything be more captivating. Finally, I'd like to say those who gave this movie a mid or meh review simply can not do better no matter how hard they try. At some point we have to accept certain people's opinion do not even matter anymore because their biases are extreme due to their high expectations from their imagination they'll never be satisfied.
@@JayUchiha17 Firstly, I think invoking IQ is really bad form, but you gave some honest thoughts so I'll give an honest reply. You don't have to take anyone's opinion seriously or act as if they matter, that being said you took the time to reply so I guess it kind of matters to you so let me explain a little bit.
What I wanted to do here was in reaction to hyperbolic videos claiming that the film was going to change cinema when I don't think it falls into that role (with the caveat that I think there's room to reassess once it's part of a completed trilogy.)
I was actually "satisfied" with the film, I think there's more to like than dislike, I thought it took a notoriously difficult to adapt text and made it into a conventional and visually appealing blockbuster, which is a pretty significant achievement. That's it. It's not a position that requires invocation of "IQ" it's not something that requires you call some people's imagination "extreme". Of course everyone imagines and interprets texts in their own way, but I specifically tried to separate the adaptation from the books so that this specific issue wouldn't come up.
I understand where you're coming from, and they only reason I can see someone making such an abrasive video title is to get people's attention so they can listen to what you have to say. I've also decided to read through almost all the comments, and I saw you did too because I needed to know what type of response you expected to receive aside from all these negative responses. Maybe you're just sadistic🤷🏾♂️. But I did find out there are a few that gave a good worded plantation on your perspective (I did watch your video the first commented) All I've got to say is story wise if the movie isn't exactly like the books that's very unfortunate. It's simply not possible in our reality, and it probably won't make the same kind of money on the silver screen. Maybe because of the time, make the film, the budget, or the niche target audience. It's like doing the best you can with what you have. I guess the more you make videos, the better you'll get at making it palatable to your target audience. All they best to you sir.
Are you ok?
It's a warm enough day and I'm listening to some 7/10 music. So yeah, are you?
nah u wrong
Broadly agree. It was what I expect from a Villeneuve film at this point, visually fantastic but not particularly stirring (with some exceptions - mainly the Harkonnen bits). I wouldn't rank it as one of the best movies of all time but it was enjoyable and worth the watch. Glad I got to see it at an actual cinema too.
Glad there's another Harkonnen appreciator out there and yeah definitely an incredible visual spectacle, but that's not really enough for me for longer than 2 hours.
With you 100% Sinan. Its a really skillfully done adaptation of an incredibly difficult novel to adapt, and is definitely worth 7 or 8 out of ten.
I really hope it brings more people to the books cos I found them mindblowing in the way people are describing the film.
It would have got an 8 out of 10 if it had used the term "Jihad"
Thanks for this, I have never seen a title that made me feel more offended 🎉
Happy to be of service
No.
No, it was better than the previous entry.
I enjoyed these movies more to get an insight into what denis villeneuve got out of the books and seeing how he translate the books because what he got from the books was something completely different or very different from what I got from the book. it was a little disappointing but also encouraging because there are different ways to adapt this story and Dune adapted again and done "properly" as a series because it really needs space to breathe and get into the politics. A couple of movies is not enough. And let's be honest, it just wasn't weird enough.
There's a reason Jodorowsky wanted something like 10 hours for his planned adaptation and I do think that one of the strength's of the Lynch adaptation is that it just decided to get a bit weird with it, but I do also see the appeal of playing it straight like a conventional blockbuster. I did enjoy finding out that Villeneuve compared the Fremen to the Quebecois which is probably the funniest way to interpret them anyone could have come up with.
@@SKTheCrusader the designs for Jodoroskys version looks incredible. The only thing that bothered me was the ending. He seemed to have missed the point that Herbert was making about the chosen one narrative. I still would loved to have seen that version. Personally I dream of the animated dune that's in my head. Maybe one day.
I watched Dune part one some month ago for the first time and it got me hooked on the franchise, started reading the book.
Part Two is a great movie, but I feel kinda empty, and I have to agree with your points here, it felt both rushed and dragged at the same time.
I'm glad I could give voice to some of those feelings you had about it. As you say I think there's a lot to like about the film. I just can't quite get behind "this is going to change cinema" when I think it let a lot slip through its fingers.
Part 2 is actually goated
I rank this as top 3 sci fi movies of all time. Yes of all time
May I ask out of curiosity what the top 3 of all time are in your mind?
@@SKTheCrusader sci fi: in no order i would say: matrix, space oddysey 2001, dune part 2
Lets see few more: empire strikes back and alien or aliens
@@DarkoFitCoach Well it's nice to know we have some overlap even if we'll have to agree to disagree about Dune Part 2 (I just enjoyed Part 1 more, no accounting for taste)
while watching it in the cinema i definitely felt that part 1 was superior
i was literally cringing at certain dialogue points in the first half of the movie like the one with chani and paul? the “stop looking at me like that” line had me crawling lmao
love this movie, everything about it is perfect but part 1 was just simply better
I definitely agree that Part 1 was much more enjoyable for me, much closer to "this is going to change cinema" than Part 2 was for me.
The final battle wasn't epic enough for me
I have to disagree and contrary to the general tone of the comments here actually step up in explicit defence. For me it was well choreographed and intense. Of all the specific parts of the film I’d almost put that beyond criticism from my perspective. That being said I’d be fascinated to hear how you’d make it more epic?
The 3rd act was rather rushed. They could have ended it at him drinking the water of life and making a 3rd movie out of the 3rd act.
I can see how that would have worked, but I think the narrative arc clearly needed it to end at the start of the "Holy War" as I say I think there's a path to that, that doesn't feel like it's misfiring after the 2 hour mark, but it didn't quite manage it for me.
@@SKTheCrusader oh I think the end of the 3rd Gil could have had the same ending. (With the start of the jihad) BUT, the stakes to drink the water of life could have been greater. Like use more of the original time line of 2-3 years vs 9 months. Let Alia be born, let Paul & Chani have their son and have him be killed in the raid while Paul’s away. Those dramatic stakes could have been more of a tipping point to flip the table. Then the 2nd movie ends with him making the choice. Then the 3rd film is the campaign. Make the battle great, let Alia show do her thing and end it with the start of the war. Boom
Haven't seen it.
It can't be better than Mid though given the number of bare faces in the clips (in daytime desert) I've already seen.
Given the excitement it must be at least Mid.
Now I'll watch your video ;)
Definitely better than Two Towers -treatment of Gimli in LotR is an atrocity (I didn't even watch Two Towers :P)
Greg Egan's Diaspora is the book I give everyone.
No, it's awesome.
are you always this wrong?
Sebastian, buddy, I think you're cool. Don't put yourself down like that in your channel name.
@@SKTheCrusader I don't think you get to decide what's cool man, I've seen your track record.
Watchmen was a great movie!
Can we just acknowledge though, that sex scene was actually torture? (not in the fun way either)
Lord of the rings is for children or adults who refuse to leave their childhood. In essence it’s horse shit. Let the hate pour in now :D
I respect what's being attempted here
It wasn't mid, kthxbye :3
Sir/Madame, this is by far the most profound comment I've ever received and also loving the use of the retro sign off. You have a good day.
7 min of disclaimers LOL
It's one minute, if you're patient enough to sit through a 3 hour film you can sit through that.
it was not mid😂
The fact you use the term "Mid" is an immediate red flag for taking any critical assessment seriously
Do you think this is actually a substantive reply to a critique or is this just you giving yourself an excuse to keep on coddling yourself in case I make a cogent point or two?
Pretty substantive, as substantive as the word "Mid"@@SKTheCrusader
I respect your opinion. But it's clearly wrong on so many level. Greetings
Hey man, thanks for being polite about it. I respect that you're wrong about this film too.
You think they didn't use Jihad because of the suburban American audience. Okay, dude. You've completely lost perspective.
The term "Jihad" is actually important as it relates to the source material and the overall themes. Yes, I think (probably) the studio resisted the term rather than Villeneuve and I think that resistance is rooted in the sensibilities of a largely American (or American aligned) worldview.
As time goes on, I think one of the bigger things that will be looked back on as a failure of what the film is trying to say or could have achieved will be replacing "Jihad" with "Holy War". Whether you like the term, or not, it does matter and the decision to change does have impact.
Anyone who has "mid" in their vocabulary won't appreciate Dune.
It is woke regardless of you being a tryhard or not, chani is not there to be a 2007 youtube atheist yelling at southern yokels and getting undignant at paul for his political marriage.Not to mention changing kynes for no reason at all. But besides that, the movie is terrible regardless of it being woke or not, drab, grey, unimaginative visuals, hack hans zimmer "music" more akin to a sound of the beach cd, offputting casual dialogue, etc, it has the same flaws a marvel or transformers movie has but people give it a pass because it has an artsy droning veneer, probably cause the ost makes the theater shake or whatever, but it's a lifeless movie just as br 2049 was. Btw someone has to get rid of this overt cleanliness in film, it's horrendous, in br 2049 they got a garbage dump that looks cleaner than the taj mahal.
I would give dune 2 a 4/10. Honestly I think its only like two steps away from a marvel movie
I would only really say that's unfair given how awful Marvel movies look and how much easier it should be to adapt a Marvel comic than Dune.
@@SKTheCrusader I agree the visual quality is much better in dune but Idk if I would say its actually much more interesting. And I havent read the book but I think the story is probably more subtle and interesting than a marvel story but I dont think the movie did a great job of telling it
@@Michalemonkey It struggled with how to use the material as I say in the video, but there's probably 10, 20, 100 videos to be done on the Dune books even with all the other people putting out great videos on them. Or at least that's how I feel about it but that's coloured by teenage reading experiences.
@@SKTheCrusader I didn't mean that the books aren't really good. I haven't read them. Just that the visuals were not that exciting to me and the pacing/tone/acting was pretty meh. Honestly with how much people love it it makes me think I am missing something
@@Michalemonkey I think that can be chalked up to different tastes, I've already sparked controversy in my discord about this so I've definitely missed something too.
Go make a movie yourself. ✌️ sofa boy.
I'll get right on that, thanks for the constructive feedback.
@@SKTheCrusader No problem movie hater.
@@122blazer I have to ask in all seriousness, do you think that I hate all movies because I only like this one and don't think it's going to change cinema?
@@SKTheCrusader Please just stop hating on Cinema. Hate on something else
@@122blazer Look, you clearly feel personally aggrieved that I didn't love the movie and that's okay, but do you really think this is a coherent or proportionate response to someone who's simply said "I think the film is a 7/10 for these reasons"? I don't think so.
I'm glad you liked the film, loved it even. I think there's more to like about it than dislike, but you're projecting an attitude and a position onto me that I simply don't hold.