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  • @weshammer
    @weshammer  3 місяці тому +79

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    • @AnimeShinigami13
      @AnimeShinigami13 3 місяці тому +4

      I checked for women's sizes and they don't have them. I was going to reccomend them to mom because she can never find a sturdy comfortable white t-shirt that's 100% cotton. Polyester actually makes her break out!!!!! Also have you ever thought about turning the graphics from your worn out t-shirts into wall scrolls? Or rugs?

    • @weshammer
      @weshammer  3 місяці тому +4

      @@AnimeShinigami13 all their shirts are unisex which from my perspective is a good thing but my wife inform me that no, it's not the same thing as having an actual women's cut haha. No I hadn't considered that, would make for a cool project

    • @Zenphoshen
      @Zenphoshen 3 місяці тому +1

      Love the design brother, I had to pick up 2 of them. One for myself and one for my buddy.

    • @Scudboy17
      @Scudboy17 3 місяці тому

      Hey Wes- the trials of the Ultramarine aspirants is pretty well documented in the Marnius Calgar comic series, but I don't recall the name of the series. It's got a lot of detail, and a somewhat underwhelming twist ending, but it's worth checking out.

    • @garrettpoole2073
      @garrettpoole2073 3 місяці тому

      0😊😊😊0p😊00o

  • @ChaosGaming965
    @ChaosGaming965 3 місяці тому +1072

    My favorite quote of the Ultramarines is Guilliman talking to one of his sons who's polished his armor to the point of insanity with the Primarch claiming he was trying to hard "Arkus nodded, and rested the base of the standard on the ground. ‘My lord,’ he said. ‘I am an Ultramarine. Trying too hard is the entire point of us, isn’t it?" they may be the boy scouts of space marines, but they try to be the best and honestly they come pretty damn close.

    • @Neoth40k
      @Neoth40k 3 місяці тому +47

      This makes me ponder... Fulgrim and the Emperor's Children had the same ideals as this Ultramarine, but they got corrupted because of It.
      Combining this with the idea of certain Primarchs having equal roles to others, so that the loss of one is not so devastating, It can be concluded that Guilliman and Fulgrim would be like equal weapons, but one of them proved to be better for humanity than the other, and this also applies to their legions.
      The similarities are: both Primarchs being legendary heads of state, and both legions being good at everything but not the best at anything (apart from logistics, where the Smurfs win)

    • @monoclesquid9667
      @monoclesquid9667 3 місяці тому +79

      @@Neoth40kthe difference is Fulgrim cared about perfection as an unachievable endpoint that one should strive towards to the point of madness, whereas Roboute saw perfection as an eternally recursive and iterative process not *meant* to be fully realized, only better understood.

    • @Neoth40k
      @Neoth40k 3 місяці тому +34

      @@monoclesquid9667 yes, this is why the Ultramarines deserve their plot Armour

    • @blacksun3920
      @blacksun3920 3 місяці тому +13

      ​@@Neoth40k I think you're on the right track but a little too narrow. The Ultramarines aren't a perfect foil to the Emperor's Children, just like they aren't to the Word Bearers. They are the jacks of all trades and can fight like any of the other legions which is why Guilliman was able to learn and adapt to the Raven Guards fighting style, or why they can be as berserk as the Blood Angels at times. I don't think the 13th and G man were meant to be the back up for Fulgrim and the E'sC, I think they were the back up to the back ups. 3rd in line in any skill so they were never going to be as good as the other legions even where 2 already overlapped, instead they were there to plug the gaps if BOTH failed or even just to be there as a stop gap if the other legions were somewhere else and couldn't make it where they were needed. They are the A- where other legions are the A+ and A, not as good but still a passing great and a pretty good one at that.

    • @thewerdna
      @thewerdna 3 місяці тому +7

      ​@@monoclesquid9667which is also what many Emperor's Children realized. Sadly the ones who did were those purged at Istvan III

  • @marcirahmatias7057
    @marcirahmatias7057 3 місяці тому +276

    Narrator: Each and every battle brother, a beacon of nobility
    Me: But Leandros exists

    • @Historyfrek4ever
      @Historyfrek4ever 3 місяці тому +17

      I guess he is exemplar of spoiled, pompous nobility.

    • @TimmyMicBobbins
      @TimmyMicBobbins 3 місяці тому +13

      ​@@Historyfrek4ever there always has to be one in every story.

    • @nevertellmethaoddz8581
      @nevertellmethaoddz8581 3 місяці тому

      F Leandros, all my homies hate Leandros

    • @hawkconvel4530
      @hawkconvel4530 3 місяці тому +11

      We don't talk about leandros no no..

    • @GabBlackxox
      @GabBlackxox 2 місяці тому +10

      All my homies hate Leandros

  • @AutumnOnFire
    @AutumnOnFire 3 місяці тому +496

    I like the Ultramarines because, being raised in a good-boy Catholic household, it feels so relatable that they are essentially always like, "GUYS, WTF ARE YOU DOING. THAT'S NOT WHAT DAD SAAAAAAAAAAID. FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKK!"
    _Especially Guilliman. _*_Poor Good-boy Guilliman._*

    • @lucas_leoheart
      @lucas_leoheart 3 місяці тому

      i'm guessing this comment should be drilled to a specific bastard's head currently holding the very same position he should approach first in the first place lol

    • @Jerga27
      @Jerga27 3 місяці тому +34

      [Guilliman wakes up]
      Praise to the God Emperor!!
      Guilliman: ... wtf did the Word Bearers do now..

    • @ProphetsCrusade
      @ProphetsCrusade 2 місяці тому +7

      I too main Ultramarines because Catholicism lol

    • @chillobsidian9592
      @chillobsidian9592 2 місяці тому +1

      Pretty based

    • @kjimxd6791
      @kjimxd6791 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Jerga27 Underrated comment

  • @myself2noone
    @myself2noone 3 місяці тому +572

    I like that in Ultramar everything is named after Hera. Meaning Guilliman is naming everything after his mom.

    • @toddbatchelder9380
      @toddbatchelder9380 3 місяці тому +54

      Oh no..., now I have a mental image in my head of Muscleman from Regular Show as Roubute Guiliman, screaming this every other line: "You know who else can *insert context of the conversation here*? MY MOOOOOOOM!!!!"

    • @NeoSzaman21
      @NeoSzaman21 3 місяці тому +17

      Simmilar thing is with the space wolves after you discover that Russ was raised by wolves.

    • @discountplaguedoctor88
      @discountplaguedoctor88 3 місяці тому +12

      Since when was Tarasha Euten named Hera?

    • @rafalesousa6781
      @rafalesousa6781 3 місяці тому +4

      Haha hes a mommys boys

    • @dragonlord498
      @dragonlord498 3 місяці тому +14

      ​@@rafalesousa6781
      Well given who is "biological" father is can't blame him for liking his adopted parents more same with many of the other primarches

  • @judyfps5059
    @judyfps5059 3 місяці тому +159

    I nearly spat out my drink when hearing Robotic GuiltyCan declare his (lack of) dexterity his worst enemy. The man who has fought the legions of hell, died multiple times and survived the total vacuum of space; mentally defeated by his lack of dexterity (each second he doesn’t have a giant pen in his hand, 578193 guardsman die because he couldn’t sign a piece of paper, and he knows that)

    • @Spectacular_Insanity
      @Spectacular_Insanity 2 місяці тому +13

      In the grim darkness of the far future. there is only paperwork. 🤣

    • @nicolairvynlee5097
      @nicolairvynlee5097 Місяць тому +2

      "How did our reinforcement not deploy?!"
      ". . . . "
      "WELL?!"
      "Primarch couldn't grip the - ".
      "DON'T FINISH THAT SENTENCE. Mark the report done, filed under Failure of Communication."

  • @timconner7693
    @timconner7693 3 місяці тому +352

    Wasn't there a story where one Ultramarine had his arm chopped off and was getting chewed out by his Sargeant for sloppiness for losing an arm only for the guy to go "I didn't lose it, its right over there."

    • @AngelGonzalez-dn3pb
      @AngelGonzalez-dn3pb 3 місяці тому +82

      Not quite. Instead of Ultramarines, it was the Crimson Fists chapter. Said Ultramarine was actually a CF Captain named Alessio Cortez, and said sergeant was the CF Chapter Master himself, Pedro Kantor.

    • @luisarza7202
      @luisarza7202 3 місяці тому +33

      ​@@AngelGonzalez-dn3pb to be fair the crimsom fists were the most ultramarine like of their legion

    • @clementbianchini8651
      @clementbianchini8651 3 місяці тому +5

      Nope that was in Rinn World between Pedro Kantor Chapter Master of the Crimson Fist and Alexio Cortez his first captain

    • @DeathsAgent
      @DeathsAgent 3 місяці тому +3

      they were fighting the orks warboss and the chapter master was yelling at him saying that he could’ve easily been killed

    • @DekkarJr
      @DekkarJr 2 місяці тому +1

      haha based.

  • @ADMG
    @ADMG 3 місяці тому +188

    Almost two fucking hours of Wes talking about the Ultramarines?
    Let's fucking go!

  • @seanread5556
    @seanread5556 3 місяці тому +151

    small correction for the bit at the start, as difficult as it is to believe nowadays, the Ultrasmurfs weren't actually the coverboys for the entire length of the franchise. IIRC, in second edition the Blood Angels were the cover boys (they LOVED red in the 90s, most of the cover factions were the red ones) then the Black Templars for most of 3rd. It wasn't really until 4th edition and Matt Ward's dark presence coming to full fruition that the boys in blue really became the cover boys.

    • @weshammer
      @weshammer  3 місяці тому +61

      You're correct! Very good point! I even think the crimson fists were the poster boys for a hot minute at one point 😅

    • @alexianthedragon
      @alexianthedragon 3 місяці тому +11

      LOL on the whole Matt Ward hate. He gave an interview where he was very clear that everything regarding his work was examined and OKed by GW. Please direct your ire towards the correct target, GW.

    • @davidgeorge3944
      @davidgeorge3944 3 місяці тому +5

      Blood angels, space wolves, grey knights, they were all super popular back then. I remember when utramarine were just a choice, a small option, but the most uninteresting faction so anyone with a whiff of fun wouldn't play them, how they became so popular ill never know, maybe it's the name ultra having people ruining they must be the best? Not knowing it's because their from Ultramar? God knows. Their OK. I am a 90's wh4k fan and.. Yeah I totally love the blood angels dude it was either them or space wolves for top spot back then 👌

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon 3 місяці тому

      @davidgeorge3944 If Arbiter Ian is to be believed, the “Ultramarines” were originally the “Ultra Marines” (or as he liked to call them, the “Ultra (space) Marines)”). So the “ultra” name issue might’ve been a real thing (until the name was retconned into coming from Ultramar).

    • @wephilips6651
      @wephilips6651 3 місяці тому +3

      @@alexianthedragonerm even it that were 100% true it’s still Ward writing the stuff. I am only aware of the Ward hate through memes and I have zero feeling about him either way but if you do hate his writing it’s still mainly ward’s fault with GW being only partially responsible

  • @bobberto3399
    @bobberto3399 3 місяці тому +55

    I'm completely hooked on these lore videos. How I never heard anything about 40k is insane. Better late than never. Aside from like posters and pics of figures I had no idea how vast and interesting the world is.

    • @TheHo1yGhost
      @TheHo1yGhost 3 місяці тому +11

      Welcome aboard! All are welcome in the embrace of The Emperor, beloved by all.

    • @vanderwallstronghold8905
      @vanderwallstronghold8905 3 місяці тому +2

      Welcome to the fold brother.

    • @Mercator89
      @Mercator89 3 місяці тому +3

      Enjoy the almost endless supply of 40k lore videos on YT ^.^

    • @mustbemeech
      @mustbemeech 3 місяці тому +1

      They gonna fuck around and make a movie lol or anime series would be littt

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon 3 місяці тому

      Brace yourself, the rabbit hole goes _Deeeep._ 😅

  • @niks5463
    @niks5463 3 місяці тому +92

    Thank you!
    As I was playing SM2, I kept thinking Titus and crew were very....nice to everyone considering the overall lore I know about. The Ultramarines being unique in that regard helps connect the dots

    • @Vaudrin
      @Vaudrin 3 місяці тому +24

      I'd argue that they share that trait with the salamanders

    • @niks5463
      @niks5463 3 місяці тому

      @@Vaudrin I only know a tiny bit about them, mainly just that they exist. I'll look them up and see what they're all about next.

    • @MaticustheRed
      @MaticustheRed 3 місяці тому +7

      ​@@niks5463Hugs and Flamethrowers mostly.

    • @derrickallen8138
      @derrickallen8138 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@niks5463 The Salamanders make the Ultramarines look like servants of Khorne unless you're Eldar

    • @BlackIronHero
      @BlackIronHero 3 місяці тому +24

      Most chapters are pretty disconnected from humanity but some are cool. The Salamanders are all about ensuring civilian safety, they go even further than Ultramarines in that regard because their religion, the Promethean Cult, specifically teaches the virtue of compassion and self sacrifice. They don't save people to adhere to a code, they just straight up want to do it, even if it means putting themselves at risk.
      Space Wolves are pretty humanitarian as well because they like picking older aspirants - fully grown, battle tested soldiers instead of promising young recruits. It means they tend to hold onto their humanity better because they spend longer as humans. Even still, Ultramarines and space Wolves, neither of them put a patch on the Salamanders in terms of love for humanity.

  • @mercenarygundam1487
    @mercenarygundam1487 3 місяці тому +89

    *Ultramarines Chant intensifies*
    MY GLORIOUS CHAPTER MASTER WE SUCCEDED IN GETTING WESHAMMER TO COMPLETE HIS DEEP DIVE!!!

    • @lanchester101
      @lanchester101 3 місяці тому +6

      FOR THE GLORY OF ULTRIMAR!!!!

    • @bluntblade6887
      @bluntblade6887 3 місяці тому +6

      COURAGE AND HONOR!!!

    • @IIC7
      @IIC7 3 місяці тому +4

      Calgar: *ultra groan*

  • @foxdavion6865
    @foxdavion6865 3 місяці тому +106

    Funny thing is, when I was a kid, Ultramarines lore was little more than 2 pages of text in the Codex Space Marines, with a very early 4 page story on them from White Dwarf on them during the Crusade and Horus Heresy, that was it, in fact they were never special or the poster child of the setting, they were just the chapter chosen to feature in the book art as they were the default chapter, nothing unquie at the time in the late 90s. We had far more in depth backstory on the Blood Angels, Imperial Fists, Space Wolves and Dark Angels back then. In fact, Crimson Fists and Black Templar got more attention in the past. Ot wasn't until 4th Edition in 2005 that Games Workshop decided to flesh out the Ultramarines and make them the posterchild of the setting.

    • @michaelgreider9486
      @michaelgreider9486 3 місяці тому +14

      It’s so crazy to me something I love so much has 30+ year fans. I’m literally about a 2 year fan

    • @Washoii
      @Washoii 3 місяці тому +3

      @@michaelgreider9486Yep, next year will mark exactly 30 years of collecting GW starting with Lizardmen way back when. Not a fan of their money grubbing though so certainly don’t buy many models these days.

    • @davidgeorge3944
      @davidgeorge3944 3 місяці тому +3

      Your right. I got comics on blood angels and the sisters of battle to this day. I loved the blood angels.. Crazy brave bastards. Blood drinking was weird though but its useful lol

    • @foxdavion6865
      @foxdavion6865 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Washoii What is really offensive is the cardboard of the box is worth more than the plastic in the box in terms of resource costs, exactly $2 US. Labour, transport and staff costs are a different matter though, totalling around $10 US per box. GW often makes a 90% profit on every single sale of miniatures boxes, more so on Battleforces and Starter Boxes, you'd think they'd make less, but no it is actually more, the more plastic, the higher the profit to print cost ratio. With that said, plastic to box ratio, Games Workshop isn't actually the worst for price hiking, that would be LEGO. LEGO has always been expensive, even in the 90s.
      Games Workshop has only become expensive in the past 20 years due to yuppies in middle management muddying the waters within the company demanding increasing wages while those employed under them are given minimum wage. While the Investors demand the same returns every year, which forces GW to increase prices double relative to inflation to maintain the same profit curve every year, it's horrendous. The investors control GW's finances because I know it isn't the board making this choice as I've met people on GW's board and they're pretty cool, their CEO doesn't make much money, he isn't greedy, the issue is squarely their investors and middle management, ask anyone at the company and they'll answer the same. But that is just half the story, the other big nasty whale in the room is the fact Games Workshop isn't entirely an international entity and their main office is still in the UK and they are a registered UK business with half their model range being manufactured in the UK while the other half is manufactured in the USA which accounts for a large percentage of the overall costs of miniatures being thrown back on buyers, because Games Workshop has to pay really nasty taxes in the UK and the USA, they have to pay double taxes, for both their manufacturing and their business and they have to pay staff too and not at a minimum wage (again middle management issue); GW refuses to have their models made cheaply in China or other cheap labour countries because they're obsessed with model quality. My Uncle once said to me "why the hell is this $200?!" then saw the box "made in the UK" and was like "Oh ok nevermind."

    • @lebendigesgespenst7669
      @lebendigesgespenst7669 2 місяці тому +1

      That is something I’ve been thinking about as I’ve been studying older Warhammer. Rogue trader featured crimsons fists on its main products. Second edition had the blood angels front and center on its starter box (though ultramarines certainly featured on some space marine boxes). 3rd Edition featured the Black Templars more heavily in its art.
      By all accounts 4th edition was just par for the course in rotating the spotlight a bit. But it has obviously stuck on the Ultramarines since then somehow

  • @norrecvizharan1177
    @norrecvizharan1177 3 місяці тому +34

    Y'know, just from hearing the general description of them, where it went over how they were so tactically minded that they could adapt their strategies on the fly, it immediately clicked as to why they were the biggest and most well known legion. Sure, the other ones are loads more badass in particular ways, but hell hath no fury like an army that can maintain optimal efficiency regardless of their foe, and even manage to have a good level of logistics at that. Ten of them might not necessarily be able to beat ten Space Wolves in a melee brawl, but they don't have to when they're running things so smoothly that they consistently can bring in an extra thousand imperium troops as backup, and so on.
    Specialized champions alone are a grand sight to behold, but there's nothing scarier than having the equivalent of a galactic nation's worth of ammunition, bodies, and weapons bearing down on something. Seems it really pays off to focus on more than just the fights themselves.

    • @Weebash14886
      @Weebash14886 3 місяці тому +10

      I imagine a space wolf going full werewolf because he used up all his munitions and his weapons are broken,then say
      "The fuck are you going to do blueberry"
      Then the Ultramarine just points at his heavy machinegun full of ammo, and a squad of sniper back him up from the background, with dozens of dots on the wolf
      "I have the power of proper logistics and daddy-G at my side furry"

    • @minhducnguyen9276
      @minhducnguyen9276 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@Weebash14886 There's a segment in Deathwatch lore that shows exactly that. The Deathwatch have a Library of records on space marines xenos encounters and how they were defeated to take as the lesson. There's a footage of space wolves getting overwhelmed by Necron because no matter how hard they can fight the Necrons get resurrected and eventually surrounded the space wolves. And there's also footage of the Black Templars getting gunned down by the Tau because of their insistence on melee combat. The only time the Ultramarines got beaten was when they faced the Tyranid and that's because the Tyranid can beat the Ultramarines at their own game

    • @JokeeGA5
      @JokeeGA5 27 днів тому

      To be fair all space marines can do that. It’s not like Blood Angels have no idea as to how to conduct any other kind of war than death from above melee plunge. It’s just that if there is an option between jumping in and cutting a guy or blasting him from afar they prefer the close option.
      Salamanders are perfectly capable of not using flamers but again if there’s an option between flamer and not, they’ll choose flamer.
      Same with really any chapter. The gimmick is in addition to that same tactical and strategic genius.
      Ultramarines strength comes from the fact they analyze stuff ad nauseam. And that unlike other chapters, they don’t have the gimmick. The lack of any doctrinally preferential method of waging war is a gimmick of its own.

  • @1000Tomatoes
    @1000Tomatoes 2 місяці тому +120

    Are you sure Ultramarines are the best representation of space marines? Don't know much about Emperor's Children but with a name like that they gotta be a real loyal, pious, and stand-up group of dudes.

    • @jijidu69
      @jijidu69 2 місяці тому +17

      They sound like they'd be the perfect space marines

    • @ItzJack23
      @ItzJack23 2 місяці тому +2

      Heresy!

    • @joshuabrookmyer4119
      @joshuabrookmyer4119 2 місяці тому +5

      Sit down, child. Uncle Space Marine needs to explain something.

    • @Iesse13
      @Iesse13 2 місяці тому +4

      The demons in purple? sure why not.

    • @kylegardner8698
      @kylegardner8698 2 місяці тому +5

      Who’s gonna tell him?

  • @JesBdoinItAgain
    @JesBdoinItAgain 3 місяці тому +58

    I'd love to imagine the moment Aliens visited Earth when the humans went to extinction, the Very First thing they found is a library filled with Just 40K lore, and it scares them that they actually believe Humanity has been dealing with Gods of Chaos and other World-Destroying Aliens for the past millennia, making them extremely grateful that humanity didn't found them yet.

  • @Aerowarrier
    @Aerowarrier 3 місяці тому +19

    Okay but Ultramarine humor is fantastic, that shit is great. And honestly Guilliman and the UMs being essentially a mini Emperor and His Custodes is kinda cute. Magnus may have the most in common with Emps as the only one to realize his psychic might back then, but Guilliman seems to think the most like him. It would have been interesting to see how he adapted to the end of their war if that had had the chance to happen

  • @samuelanders7597
    @samuelanders7597 3 місяці тому +181

    A conversation from 2 of my friends
    Friend 1 - "im an ultramarine guy"
    Friend 2 - "i bet you cry after sex"

  • @renatoafonsomaiacarneiro950
    @renatoafonsomaiacarneiro950 3 місяці тому +116

    Quick someone to call Iysander! Wes is hyping the Blueberry Bois!

    • @Jedishill680
      @Jedishill680 3 місяці тому +19

      Second Company we hold this ground in the name of the primarch- Demetrian Titus

    • @TheHo1yGhost
      @TheHo1yGhost 3 місяці тому +12

      @@Jedishill680that scene goes so hard! My favorite sequence from a masterpiece of a campaign

  • @Lohengrin88
    @Lohengrin88 2 місяці тому +9

    "You are encouraged to openly question the Codex Astartes"
    You heard that Leandros? I said - DID YOU HEAR THAT?

    • @Garbik88
      @Garbik88 5 днів тому

      It's the same story when Your manager saying: "I encourage you to challenge our decisions, we appreciate the comments of our employees"
      And the next thing you do is looking for a job like Titus :)

    • @spartana1116
      @spartana1116 4 дні тому +1

      Wasn't that because Leandros kinda skipped the other companies after graduating from a scout?

  • @maneman13
    @maneman13 3 місяці тому +13

    Ultramarines were my first big army in 40k. I built a full battle company back around 3rd edition. I'd been playing since rogue trader (over 30 years ago at this point), and had a small collection, but the 5th company was one of my biggest investments at that point. Squad markings, company marking (black rimmed shoulder pads), chapter markings (obvs), they are one of the most fun bits of my collection.

  • @commandodante13
    @commandodante13 3 місяці тому +83

    taking some note for this one.....
    G-man:*declare the flimshy plastic as his enemy*
    Kato: emmm are you joking my lord????

  • @monoclesquid9667
    @monoclesquid9667 3 місяці тому +47

    Ultramarines more than any astartes faction understand that there is no point in subjugation if one is left with nothing but ash and ruin to rule.

    • @Faint366
      @Faint366 Місяць тому

      Ash makes one of the greatest fertilizers

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 8 днів тому

      ​@@Faint366a fully functional world is better.

  • @zackbob6
    @zackbob6 3 місяці тому +10

    For Ultramar! But real talk, I haven't read any of their novels yet, just seen them in the games. Their "normalness" is why I like them. I'm a minimalist in pretty much everything so a chapter that doesn't go crazy or turn to dust or drink blood or hug humans while burning eldar children is a welcome idea to me. Nothing crazy, nothing complicated. Just organized, superhuman, awesome military power. Also as someone who uses spreadsheets and lists to organize everything, I love their logical, task oriented ways.

    • @alexianthedragon
      @alexianthedragon 3 місяці тому +1

      The Ultramarines are not quite your perfect normal military force, but they are the chapter designed to be most easily relatable for us in M3. Read the two Ultramarines Omnibus by Graham McNeill which are the story of Uriel Ventris, Captain of the Fourth Company, and the inspiration for Titus.

    • @bluntblade6887
      @bluntblade6887 3 місяці тому

      That series is very good, a bit out of date for some of the info (lore changes and all), but nice read which gives the Ultramarines character.
      Would also recommend the books focusing on them during the Horus Heresy, for me they went along way towards presenting Guilliman and his legion as interesting characters.

    • @phreakazoith2237
      @phreakazoith2237 24 дні тому

      @@alexianthedragon and within the Omnibus, in Warriors of Ultramar, you will also encounter the Ultramarine's weird cousins, the Mortifactors who are very different and get you in touch with the huge variety among Space Marines chapters

  • @dukeofawesome3718
    @dukeofawesome3718 3 місяці тому +8

    I absolutely love the rivalry between Cato Sicarius and Severus Agemman. Both Captains believe they are the obvious successor for Chapter Master and they couldn't be any different from one another.

  • @Garryo_27
    @Garryo_27 3 місяці тому +16

    I was about to say that you are late to the Space Marine 2 party and then realised its a 1h 40min Video. crazy research

    • @weshammer
      @weshammer  3 місяці тому +12

      Ya I had hoped to get it up around launch but I don't release things I feel are incomplete. If that means a bunch of all nighters and a week of extra work, so be it

  • @pjsparrow5904
    @pjsparrow5904 3 місяці тому +5

    Know No Fear is one of my favorite Horus Heresy books. “ Always make sure your enemy is dead. If you must fight an Ultramarine, pray you kill him. If he is still alive, then you are dead."

  • @tsrboomer09
    @tsrboomer09 2 місяці тому +2

    Wes, you have to be one of the best UA-camrs I've ever watched. You put so much effort and feeling into these videos and as someone who is, space Marines 2, new to 40k your videos are amazingly well done. Thank you!

  • @Valkyrie_RR
    @Valkyrie_RR 3 місяці тому +2

    I just came in deep touch with Warhammer a few months ago and I fell in love with the Grim Dark, the lore and the whole universe. Its awesome. Great videos, love to watch them and learn so much about 40k 😍

  • @Nightsight971
    @Nightsight971 3 місяці тому +10

    Never got into this when it came out. It looked cool but complicated. I'm now in my 50s, and between the games Inquisitor and Space Marine 2, I love this universe. So far, I am partial to the Ultra Marines, but I also like the Blood Angels rage. Great informative video, good job!

    • @davidkamps9879
      @davidkamps9879 2 місяці тому

      Check out the salamanders, I think they would click with you too

    • @Nightsight971
      @Nightsight971 2 місяці тому

      @davidkamps9879 agreed, I have discovered the Salamanders and Vulcan. I like their style alot. May be my new fav

  • @rafalesousa6781
    @rafalesousa6781 3 місяці тому +5

    Holy trinity of Ultramarines:
    The holy Bolter
    The a Emperor
    The holy Exel sheet

  • @SupremeKermitOG
    @SupremeKermitOG 3 місяці тому +5

    You should do a dark angels or a black Templar deep dive. You’re by far my favorite way to learn about warhammer

  • @nailz92002
    @nailz92002 3 місяці тому +1

    FANTASTIC video Wes. Thank you for that refresher course on the Ultramarines. Like many people , I've been enjoying Warhammer 40k in some form, tabletop, reading novels, playing the numerous video games (currently Space Marine 2) or watching lore Content since the mid 90s. I have to say even though this was a synopsis it was a very through and detailed summary. Bravo! Thank you for all your hard work and dedication to this wonderful hobby we share.

  • @bobolos23
    @bobolos23 3 місяці тому +190

    The First Company Veterans, stand ready!

    • @logangrimnar3800
      @logangrimnar3800 3 місяці тому +3

      Proud boys sympathizer? Really?

    • @MarioVegaTOAO
      @MarioVegaTOAO 3 місяці тому +8

      @@logangrimnar3800 Proud boys?

    • @smithjack1741
      @smithjack1741 3 місяці тому

      ​@@logangrimnar3800 -_- tourist

    • @92coyote92
      @92coyote92 3 місяці тому +14

      @@logangrimnar3800yeah wtf are you talking about dude

    • @Spectre2V
      @Spectre2V 3 місяці тому

      ​@@logangrimnar3800i want whatever you're smoking to come up with that

  • @GFEXCerberus
    @GFEXCerberus 3 місяці тому +7

    Guillimans and the Ultramarines superpower is literally being level headed/reasonable😂
    And in the grim dark that is remarkable 💀

  • @AmandaTroutman
    @AmandaTroutman 3 місяці тому +2

    I don't know why but I have to keep rewatching this because I feel like I catch on to something new every time. Great video

  • @MrLufugful
    @MrLufugful 3 місяці тому +43

    Sir... This is a Wendy's...

  • @captaint.tearex9279
    @captaint.tearex9279 3 місяці тому +50

    VULKAN LI-
    Oh, wrong Legion. Sorry.

    • @emmanuelperez5741
      @emmanuelperez5741 3 місяці тому +8

      I'm sure the sons of guliman would be happy to support their green brothers

    • @MaticustheRed
      @MaticustheRed 3 місяці тому +6

      We'll allow it.

    • @Mercator89
      @Mercator89 3 місяці тому +7

      HYDRA DOMINA- ....Oh Shit!
      Nevermind.

    • @blacksun3920
      @blacksun3920 3 місяці тому +5

      ​​@@Mercator89The Inquisition would like a word. Please step into this "office" over here. Mind your step, the floor is a little wet from the last "meeting".

  • @radualioanei6109
    @radualioanei6109 3 місяці тому +1

    I really like how this video is structured and how it explains every company in detail. Please do more of these for other chapters/ war bands in the future

  • @simon6272
    @simon6272 3 місяці тому +8

    @17:54 In the midst of battle against a shape shifting harlequin esq enemy, the Ultramarine battle brother spits back in response "We all float down here... FOR MCCRAGGE!"

  • @ArtyomMikitich
    @ArtyomMikitich 2 місяці тому +1

    1. "We float for Maccrage!" - that phrase made my day😊
    2. "Deathwatch - Rites of Battle" is such an awesome rulebook. Everyone could make his own Astartes heroes and even almost lore-accurate homebrew Space Marine Chapters with parts of this book, using their own choice or several dice tools to pick up positions from tables of parameters. I don't know how much I should appreciate authors of that tome of lore knowledge.

  • @cesaraugusto6083
    @cesaraugusto6083 3 місяці тому +4

    Basically a full length movie about the Ultramarines, gonna eat well today. Hopefully there's at least 1 "massive understatement" in the video.

  • @djashovel
    @djashovel 3 місяці тому +13

    The first Ultramarine chapter I heard it was the Skywatch. It was from a Star Wars warhammer cross-over, which honestly is pretty good and very will Written
    They're liberian in that story was in a great fight between mace wind and Obi wan
    The chapter master For some reason, that's still unclear in the story. He left his chapter and found a sith temple
    ( I highly recommend the series. It's made by a fan with too much time )

  • @paulhilario1419
    @paulhilario1419 2 місяці тому +5

    0:31- The Emperor is pleased you have fixed this.

  • @QuinnFTW
    @QuinnFTW 3 місяці тому +1

    Opened up UA-cam after a crappy day, and saw an almost 2 hour video by Wes and my day just became awesome! Love you dude you’re awesome!

  • @pixiesquid
    @pixiesquid 3 місяці тому +2

    I've been really looking forward to this one! You, Luetin09 and Occulus are my favourite lore channels.

  • @archeod586
    @archeod586 3 місяці тому +6

    NICE !!! A video on the UltraMarines!!! Good chapter with interesting story!!

  • @ayushmaanchakraborty9636
    @ayushmaanchakraborty9636 3 місяці тому +2

    I know I didn't ask for an almost 2 hour deep dive into lore of the Ultramarines. But now I know I needed it! Praise the Emperor

    • @Sunmocker
      @Sunmocker 2 місяці тому

      The Emperor Protects

  • @Rubberbucket0038
    @Rubberbucket0038 3 місяці тому +1

    YESS!!! I just came for the Into AM code I love their shirts so much and now we got a COLLAB!!!

  • @ToastedShoes
    @ToastedShoes 2 місяці тому +1

    Learned a lot about 40K through your videos thanks man! Was wondering if you’d possible do lore videos on Kill Team factions? Very curious about some of the more lesser known groups in 40k

    • @weshammer
      @weshammer  2 місяці тому +1

      That's not a bad idea! I've done so far with the mandrakes as a lot of their new lore came from their new kill team set, but researching the other factions could be fun

    • @ToastedShoes
      @ToastedShoes 2 місяці тому

      @@weshammer That would be great if you did! I really want to know more about the Adeptus Arbites and their Exaction Squad or the Beastmen!

  • @jeremyortiz2927
    @jeremyortiz2927 2 місяці тому

    I think it's really good having so many new people coming into the realm of 40k. I've been playing since 1989 and the lore, history, and content available niw is several orders of magnitude better (just by existing - we had Jack Crap when I started). Welcome and please enjoy your ride.

  • @Webb0
    @Webb0 2 місяці тому

    Stoked! Thanks for this man. Just getting into Warhammer from the Space Marine 2 at 39 years old! This is a great listen as I work my way through painting my first box of what will soon be some Ultramarine Assault Intercessors :)

  • @workinprogress5431
    @workinprogress5431 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow, great job, man! I've only been lightly into 40k for a few years, but probably similar to you, as a kid I had a thing about "by the book leader" types. I didn't like Leonardo in TMNT. Same for Cyclops in XMen. So a little of that followed me to 40k with the Ultramarines. But this video helped me appreciate them a lot more. Commitment to excellence and unfaltering discipline isn't always cool, but it is immensely respectable.

  • @Indigo8899
    @Indigo8899 3 місяці тому

    This might be one of your best deep dives yet Wes. Ive been into Warhammer for almost 2 years but i didn't realize until recently how little i knew about the Blue Boys.
    i don't know if i really had too strong of emotions tied to them but i always thought they and especially Guilliman were cool, but my god their lore is truly incredible too hear.
    learning about all the history and systems they have and how efficient they all are, learning about the building of the Ultramar Utopia and just seeing marines that genuinely try to improve with every single action and experience they take and have is incredible and honestly a little inspiring
    their organization, especially scratches the OCD part of my brain in the best way lol

  • @no1asked4this
    @no1asked4this 2 місяці тому +1

    watchin this during hurricane milton. thanks for bein here man. im not super familiar with Warhammer 40k but i wanna get into it IF the fans are better than star wars fans LOL. but fr, thank you for existing weshammer ❤️❤️❤️

  • @mr.butterfly4892
    @mr.butterfly4892 3 місяці тому +2

    Been sending people from TikTok’s abt space marine 2 here for a deeper rundown. Loving seeing people discover warhammer.

  • @thizloliboi7523
    @thizloliboi7523 3 місяці тому +28

    BABE WAKE UP... A NEW WESHAMMER VIDEO HAS DROPPED

  • @Zenphoshen
    @Zenphoshen 3 місяці тому +1

    I went through a similar path as you with the Good Ol Blueberries.
    I first fell in love with the Blood Angels because they are just so damn cool and Sanguinius is just a bad ass. Wrath made manifest in physical form.
    There was just something about them, the Legion that should have easily fallen to Chaos, yet not a single Blood Angel has ever turned traitor. Even the Chapters that were excommunicated due to their well Horrific nature remained true sons of Sanguinius and remained loyal to the Imperium.
    I'm a Blood Angel at heart but man do I also just love the aspects that the Ultramarines bring to the table.
    The Salamanders, Raven Guard Imperial Fists and Iron Hands are also some of my other favorites. My favorites have switched up massively over the last 10ish years. The Blood Angels have always been my number 1 but my number 2 and 3 have consistently changed as I was introduced to more cool lore and stories. Way back when I was first learning about Warhammer 40k, my #2 was the Imperial Fists but Sigi was just so damn cool and number 3 was the Raven Guard because Corvus Corax "Raven Raven will never not make me laugh" was the epitome of now you see me, now you don't. Now my number 2 is the Carcharodons because Tyberos the Red Wake and the crazy Shark Magic their Librarians employ and my number 3 is the Ultramarines because well the games, books and Papa Smurf himself have just grown on me a ton over the years.
    Fantastic video brother, I always enjoy these long form videos.
    This video is perfectly timed to line up with Space Marine 2 and help introduce all the new people to wider lore.

  • @eddieclark6629
    @eddieclark6629 3 місяці тому

    Awesome of you for this video to touch on some of the basics about space marines and lore in general in consideration for the probably large number of people who came here from space marine 2 and are new to the franchise

  • @Hempnizzle
    @Hempnizzle 3 місяці тому

    The timing for this video is perfect. I told my friend I needed to watch lore videos before committing to paying for the new Space Marine. I'm on day 3 or 4 of being hooked because of these videos. Thank you for your work, Wes!

  • @Mor1177
    @Mor1177 3 місяці тому +5

    Please do a deep dive on the dark angels! This was a great video.

  • @lindconnor
    @lindconnor 3 місяці тому

    This video is so awesome! I've been bingeing all your videos for the last few weeks to learn more and I'm starting the table stop soon. I'd love to see a deep dive of the Grey Knights. They're so interesting and I think you'd be the perfect person to do an in depth look

  • @johnsabalburo8241
    @johnsabalburo8241 3 місяці тому +2

    Angron telling Girlyman what true courage and honor really is is still one of my favorites.

    • @shadearca
      @shadearca 3 місяці тому +2

      Angron had neither courage not honour, he spent his time butchering beings much weaker than himself, including his own sons and is a loser who would die to a bunch of slave traders if the emperor did not save him.
      Not even his rage is pure and his. As seen on his jealousy when he witnessed the Angel's rage during the fight. In which he got spanked btw.

    • @johnsabalburo8241
      @johnsabalburo8241 3 місяці тому

      @@shadearca that's the point isn't it. The Emperor denied him to fight with courage and die with honor and made him the thing he hated the most a Slaver.

  • @prisoner817
    @prisoner817 3 місяці тому +4

    This must have been a ton of work sheesh, so much ultramarines stuff out there.

  • @kidceph8088
    @kidceph8088 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you so much!!!
    This was the type of video I was looking for with the Ultramarines.

  • @kyleveach3238
    @kyleveach3238 2 місяці тому

    EXCELLENT video Wes, I'm an Ultramarine fan myself, so sinking my teeth into all this new information is super satisfying. Always been curious about the specifics of companies!

  • @dallinskinner4800
    @dallinskinner4800 2 місяці тому +1

    Making an Ultramarine deep-dive double as an overview of Space Marines generally seems really fitting.

  • @pyr0cyb3r
    @pyr0cyb3r 3 місяці тому +13

    "Just don't ask me for an eye, I have few to spare."
    Ok this man just peaked space marine humour.

  • @Arides2010
    @Arides2010 3 місяці тому

    Great video, keep at it! Buuuuuuuut….
    Minor corretion regarding the events surrounding Uriel Ventris: He got his captaincy after Aedeus died in combat, then got his death oath mission (which let him to be stuffed into the demonculaba) and after returning - much to the resentment of the lieutenant how reported his transgression to chapter command in the first place - got reinstated as captain of the fourth company.

  • @No-sr5fb
    @No-sr5fb 3 місяці тому +2

    As one of those new space marine 2 noobs, your channel has been fantastic to dive through brother

  • @Aerowarrier
    @Aerowarrier 3 місяці тому +3

    I really wanna see Guilliman find out about the Tau. I feel like he would call a ceasefire and insist on meeting an Ethereal to see if the two races can coexist lol

  • @daemonicxi91
    @daemonicxi91 3 місяці тому

    I don't know how much of your content I've watched this week. Just finished the thousand suns deep dive and then death guard and now I see this is a recent post! lets go!! thankyou Wes I love your content while I'm painting and at work :)

  • @yescooliotime
    @yescooliotime 3 місяці тому +44

    I like to think of the Ultramarine humor as that of the Spartans of Ancient Greece.

    • @arkadisevyan
      @arkadisevyan 3 місяці тому +5

      No romans

    • @discountplaguedoctor88
      @discountplaguedoctor88 3 місяці тому +6

      Dude, they're space ROMANS. Space Greeks are someone else entirely.

    • @Ghaztoir
      @Ghaztoir 3 місяці тому +5

      It's all the same, relax nerds

    • @JJJBunney001
      @JJJBunney001 3 місяці тому +4

      Also Spartans weren't really that special, people need to get over them as some sort of super elite fighting force. Apart from a small part of history, they weren't really that much different and won far less battles or wars than most of their neighbours

    • @PhantomGato-v-
      @PhantomGato-v- 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@JJJBunney001Spartan *humour* . It's still called Laconic humour nowadays for a reason.

  • @Smoothbrainium
    @Smoothbrainium 3 місяці тому

    Love that you made this video with the new and old fans in mind to learn more about the lore!

  • @jeremyortiz2927
    @jeremyortiz2927 3 місяці тому +2

    Space Marine humor 👍💯❤️
    We honestly need more of that.

  • @NP3GA
    @NP3GA 3 місяці тому +2

    About the trials: I'm not sure if it counts, but we were shown what marneus calgar had to go through during his trials in a comic.

  • @darksindri
    @darksindri 3 місяці тому +7

    I'd love for you to do a 'space marine power armor' deep five (MKI all the way to chaos specific armor)

  • @jamesbgood25
    @jamesbgood25 3 місяці тому +1

    Yesssss!! A deep dive detailing that being basic like me is AWESOME!!

  • @evantiel727
    @evantiel727 3 місяці тому +5

    Warhammer fandom giving Ultramarines some love, it's something that we desperately need more!

  • @chucklytell
    @chucklytell 3 місяці тому +2

    I'll forever be a loyal son of the Khagan, the tactics and lifestyle of the White Scars just speak to me on many levels. that said, you have to respect the Ultramarines and especially Guilliman himself, Know No Fear is maybe the finest hour of any single legion barring the defense of Holy Terra itself

  • @guyinapandasuit2691
    @guyinapandasuit2691 2 місяці тому +1

    Would love a video of you explaining how the Space Marine games fit into the overall lore. If they do at all. Seeing a certain chapter master has me curious how accurate the game is. Also, considering Mcragge was before the games, I'm surprised it's not mentioned more while killing the Nids.

  • @hallguys9311
    @hallguys9311 3 місяці тому +1

    This. This is what we have been waiting for Brothers! For Ultramar!

  • @dylons3184
    @dylons3184 2 місяці тому +1

    I love all your videos, especially your deep dives keep it up, dude!

  • @albinofox2772
    @albinofox2772 3 місяці тому +1

    You should make a video going over what major events are currently happening in Warhammer 40K

  • @Irishmonster13
    @Irishmonster13 3 місяці тому

    I remember when I first saw your videos on TikTok maybe 2 years ago and so glad to see you growing and still produce great videos

  • @AdeoluwaAdesada
    @AdeoluwaAdesada 3 місяці тому +14

    To the ultra Marines the codex is everything

    • @TheFallenOne0702
      @TheFallenOne0702 3 місяці тому +6

      Not everything. As Gman said in his own words "The codex Astartes is there to set a guideline for the legions to follow but not follow it so religiously to become blind to their own humaness" not a direct quote mind you but a jist of his words

    • @minhducnguyen9276
      @minhducnguyen9276 2 місяці тому

      ​@@TheFallenOne0702 The Codex allows for new sections to be added so it is intended to be flexible. After the Tyranid caught them lacking the blue boys had to put some addendum into the Codex.

    • @TheFallenOne0702
      @TheFallenOne0702 2 місяці тому

      @@minhducnguyen9276 True. But there's also the point of our lovely boys in blue being so narrow minded about the Codex they throw the little humanity they have left out the window to follow the words. Granted it's worked to keep them sane for 10k+ years but they still don't make the genefather proud with how robotic they can be at times. Especially nowadays with Gman having a existential crisis of his life after having a big nap for 10k years he wakes up to find out his brother has returned to the system only to try and infect his own system of Macragge during the Plague Wars.

    • @minhducnguyen9276
      @minhducnguyen9276 2 місяці тому

      @@TheFallenOne0702 My favorite theory is because Gulliman is secretly a savage that happened to land on a planet that could tamed his nature that's why he's the few level headed in his legion. Like before meeting Gulliman the 13th legion was called the warborn because they were selected from the last resistance against the emperor. And that's why they need constant guidance from Gman or the Codex otherwise they'll devolve.

    • @TheFallenOne0702
      @TheFallenOne0702 2 місяці тому

      @minhducnguyen9276 That's the exact reason why actually. Once Gman was talking to a Servitor right after his big nap and legit almost snapped and killed the servant but didn't because he knew that's what he (the servant) wanted

  • @cjdowns5748
    @cjdowns5748 2 місяці тому

    It's crazy just a month ago when I started watching your vids I knew almost nothing about 40k. I own a few 40k games but it's always been Sci-fi nonsense to me. I actually started playing chaos gate again and was blown away because I understood nearly all the references.

  • @krisheim
    @krisheim 3 місяці тому +1

    Now i know why i'm liking them so much. You voiced my thoughts :)

  • @madams117ma
    @madams117ma 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey your videos are really getting me into 40k, I'm hoping you do a Space Wolves video

  • @thanakornkhumon7365
    @thanakornkhumon7365 3 місяці тому

    For the glory of Ultramar! Courage and Honour! For the Emperor! And praise the Emperor for very very deep dive from Weshammer vid this time, thank you

  • @JustaRandomGuy-el7sg
    @JustaRandomGuy-el7sg 3 місяці тому +5

    For the Ultra marine trail Calgars graphic novel goes over it a bit

    • @weshammer
      @weshammer  3 місяці тому

      Thanks I will have to check this out!

    • @JustaRandomGuy-el7sg
      @JustaRandomGuy-el7sg 3 місяці тому

      @@weshammer Its called Warhammer 40,000: Marneus Calgar for the full title if you need that

  • @DarkCellsCustos
    @DarkCellsCustos 3 місяці тому

    Yo Wes.... You're awesome and you're videos are awesome.
    For sure one of my favorite UA-camrs.... I've learned so much from your videos.... Keep up the hard work brother!

  • @sebastianosionnides
    @sebastianosionnides 3 місяці тому +1

    *stares at video in Sons of Dorn* yes. The smurfs... Always there for you...
    Great video

  • @MikeJones-wq7pg
    @MikeJones-wq7pg 3 місяці тому +7

    Can't wait to experience what a 36 page script sounds like. You are insane Wes and I'm totally here for it.

  • @HB2K-h8m
    @HB2K-h8m 3 місяці тому +5

    Point of order. When I first got into the hobby in the mid nineties Ultramarines definitely were not the poster boys. Blood Angels were the predominant chapter, while space wolves were the exciting new sculpts and the meta choice (inasmuch as such a thing existed). I didn't know anyone with Ultramarines.
    So while they have been poster boys for a long time, 40 years is pushing it...

  • @grayson6451
    @grayson6451 3 місяці тому +1

    Great vid you’re really doing incredible work. I hope you’re proud

  • @HB2K-h8m
    @HB2K-h8m 3 місяці тому +2

    Did you look at the marneus calgar comic when it comes to the Ultramarines trials? That suggests the attrition rate is well over 90%.

  • @shakestruekingmusic335
    @shakestruekingmusic335 3 місяці тому

    Just got that warhammer 2 game and absolutely love it I’ve been using your videos to learn all the lore and I appreciate how passionate and knowledgeable you are about it
    Now I can be a lore master myself

  • @Khalith
    @Khalith 3 місяці тому +1

    I always found it especially fascinating how they basically “graduate” from the school to become an ultramarine. It’s a very Guilliman way of doing things.

  • @Dablo_Escobar
    @Dablo_Escobar 2 місяці тому

    @weshammer, just want to say, thanks for this long vid on the ultramarines, I've got a squad of mk3 Marines, one kratos and one sicarian tank which i will paint in ultramarines heresy colours