Gas vs Diesel engine for towing an RV | How much do you save on fuel with a diesel truck
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I bought a 22 carbonize gray F250 Tremor w the 7.3. The only reason I didn’t go w the 6.7 is I don’t have anything to tow, and what I haul, a smaller truck would be ok, but I wanted a bigger truck, because I can. If I was driving cross country, especially towing, or towing 10k+ regularly, yeah, hands down, diesel. The 7.3 w the 4:30 is amazing and lighter weight (especially front end) for off roading.
Excellent presentation. You answered my questions about diesel.
Joe & Rachel,
I’m so glad your going to be able to start enjoying your kamping again. I love the drone footage and music Joe does for the videos. It is so relaxing and enjoyable to see the different places you guys go. Please continue doing these kind of videos. I can’t image how much time it consumes out of your daily lives. I thank God everyday I see another video you posted . Happy Kamping & safe traveling. As much as I appreciate both of you I want you to take time to enjoy your new healthy lives together.
Love you both 💕God Bless you today.
I have a 2019 F250 with the 6.7 and tow the 2600 RB as well. Upgraded the fuel tank to the S & B 60 gallon and it is amazing!!! 550-600 towing miles and 1,100 miles per tank non towing. So much peace of mind on cross country trips. You’ll love it!
Just ordered the S&B tank
Nice truck and great Dealership. I have bought 2 trucks in the past three years through Cedric, he is very easy to deal with. I just traded my 2020 Diesel in on a 2023 F350 with the 7.3 gas and have been very happy with its performance towing. Good luck with the diesel and pay very close attention to where you get fuel, change those fuel filters every 15k and the oil every 5k and you should be good. Also drain that water separator monthly. Good luck and safe travels.
Thanks for sharing
Beautiful Truck Joe. Congratulations
2017 gmc canyon denali. My husband absolutely LOVES that pickup. He did tons of researched as have always owned gasoline pickups. No need for full sized pickup but this thing tied like no tomorrow. Pickup doesn’t squat, still gets good mileage and isn’t being tugged all over the road by the trailer (mainly a dump trailer like what a roofer would use). He drives logging truck for a living so bringing the diesel mentality down to personal use was really a non issue. The only negative-we live in CA so fuel prices are just stupid. Longevity of vehicle will eventually pay off but it still hurts to fill it up-lol. We keep our vehicles for well over a decade so hopefully 2 decades on this choice.
I also use a GMC Canyon, with the diesel engine, to tow our travel trailer. It does great.
It’s not the engine that dies, it’s all the emissions equipment that fails on a diesel and costs you more to replace then it will for me to replace my entire 7.3L Godzilla.
I've own them both a F350 dually diesel and have since went back to gas 💯 I now own the dodge 2500 6.4 HD towing a 11k 5th wheel with 4.10 gears and love it..
Diesel baby….duramax Chevy….power plus 2024…#5 diesel and lovin the high country Chevy!!!
Hope you continue to love your new Ford diesel!
Great job on the breakdown of which truck to buy Joe. God Bless Rachel learning how to drive it :).
Your information is so, I looked at the same things when I bought my car/Ute.
Looking forward to watching more kamping videos.
I bought a diesel for the same reasons you did.....puddle jumping gas stations every 150 miles while on vacation sucked. Not to mention many times I just couldn't fit in the station and had to drive exit after exit to find a station to get gas. Now I pull in with the semi trucks and fill up easy peasy (plus they have DEF).
Congratulations 🌅 great video you didn’t sugar coat anything. And totally get why you brought it…As you live here in South FLA and get it; yet we travel into our small mountains here on the east coast. But I tow a smaller TT 2022 GD XLS 22mle. And get on avg 9.8 to 10.2 MPG’s @ 62-64 mph. 2023 F150 XLT 2.7 Ecoboost. But a different set-up and lighter TT.
Our 2006 Endura Motor Home came with a 6.6 Duramax and Allison Trans with only 55000 miles on it, and hardly any power robbing emission crap, (and No DEF needed), its a super C (19500 lb) and gets 10.6 mpg pulling a CRV toad. We have an 80 gallon tank and could drive several hundred miles before filling up, (look into the Open Roads fuel card for Diesel fuel discounts of up to a dollar a gallon at times). You will love the torque and the low growl of power, BTW nice Dr. Berry shirt. Stay Healthy. Larry
We have a gas truck! We wanted to Pay cash and just didn't have the Xtra $10K.... Plus, we only tow a 27' RV, and so far, so good! We went 6K miles across country this summer and the truck did great. We have a Ford F150, with factory Max tow pkg. Still haven't figured out that back up button yet😂
I have a 2002 Silerado 1500. It's got just under 300k miles. I pull a forest river Salem 29ft. It's 7500 pond dry weight. I get 6 mpg pn 2 lane highway. It's git the 5.3 vortex
F250 7.3 gas and same 2600RB. Both new 2022 models. Added 1K of solar, 600amp hours of Lifepo4, with 3K inverter, and the entire RV is AC powered with auto switching at the main fuse panel. Pulls great and setup is great.
However, with a do over I would of gotten the F350. Not going with the F350 is like every time you click that seat belt and think how good that feels, at the same time the thought of should of gotten the F350 instead - every time.
Have a diesel engine, towing a trailer I kept running into issues where the gasoline engine just wasn't strong enough. Got the diesel and in 4 low there's an option to lock the rear differential. We don't get stuck in snow and mud anymore!
Ah the never ending debate! Joe, i too did a diesel and tow 10k pounds almost everybweekend. It was worth it buying a used diesel to me. There is no struggle at all rowing.
If you go up thru Canada one day, headed for Alaska, diesel can be hard to find too. Same thing in mainland Mexico. Baja is not too bad though, you can find it in the bigger cities.
Had the same dilemma, ended up going with the 7.3 Godzilla F-250, tows great up and down, the cost of maintaining and Def and out west diesel is more expensive than gas. Towing a 2800bh
Sometimes, smaller is better. I use a 2016 GMC Canyon with the 2.8 Duramax to tow our Imagine 2250RK. It's about 2 feet shorter, and 300 lbs lighter than Eleanor. I get 12 MPG towing at 68 MPG. Not towing, I get 21 in the city and 31 on the interstate. Diesel fuel is more expensive, but I'm saving money on the mileage. I've towed all over the mountains of East Tennessee, and made several trips to Florida.When it's time to trade, I'll probably go with the 1500 Silverado or Sierra with the 3.0 Duramax. Bigger truck, more power but roughly the same great fuel mileage. Your new truck looks great. I know you'll enjoy the diesel torque and mileage. Safe and happy travels!
Unfortunately, most of the 1/2 ton trucks on the dealer lots can not legally tow our RV. I would have to special order one to make sure it has the correct suspension, engine, gear ratio,. Our RV is almost 8000 pounds with everything in it and the tongue weight is just over 1000 pounds
Now you need a window sticker that says
"Real trucks don't have spark plugs"
Lol
Congratulations on your new truck! While I don't own a truck (yet) considering downsizing to trailer of 5th wheel. Diesel all the way but about the only thing I would add in the decision vs gas, if like you said primarily local driving, id also "short" trips that engine never heat up for burnoff and triggering RGEN fuel dump cycles - consider gas. In terms of fuel, while there are discount diesel programs, at other times Gasbuddy is your friend. It can filter its search for diesel, bypassing those that don't have it, giving at truer estimate of the closest station - or price difference of neighboring stations at an approaching Interstate exit. One other factor in your "breakeven" 13 year math - how long do you typically own a truck and with the higher trad-in value erode proportionally. Gasser probably wouldn't last 13 years, but for easy math lets say trade truck at 5 years. Will that $10,000 difference result in a $5000 between gas and diesel, or will the diesel return $7000 or that $10000...and you have enjoyed the diesel driving dynamics over the years.
On a related note, think you will enjoy this, As a Floridian, yes Florida has the high dealer fees in the nation - in the neighborhood of $1000. Faced with that when purchasing a 4 down TOAD, and noting cheap flights out of Orlando. I did a search with my son's CT zip code many cars (Chevy Trailblazer/Buick Encore GX AWD 1.3L) found great selection where only had FWD in FL that would not qualify as a TOAD. With a deposit on a qualifying Trailblazer that was on a ship approaching the Panama Canal, I caught a flight to my son's home. The difference between the $1000 dealer fee and the $250 dealer fee where bought the Encore GX, paid for the flight, rental car, visiting my grandchildren (and my son and his wife too) all fuel and one night hotel for the return. While stayed at sons when shopping, also stayed with a relative in SC and stopped by the dealership in Flagler where deposit was refunded.
I have a Ram 1500 Limited with a 5.7L E-Torque engine. I'm towing a GD XLS 22MLE. Just went on a trip up to the mountains in Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge area. During the entire trip there and back plus driving through the Smoky Mountain State park, I averaged 11.3 Miles per Gallon. The reason I went with a Gas engine is because, like you, I am a weekend warrior and I had to make the decision on the gas truck because I like the functionality of the 1500 as a daily driver and my wife can easily handle the truck.
That's amazing gas mileage. What is your trailers weight?
Around 6000# when loaded and a tongue wt of 710#@@robertrenelle4629
Sometimes the longer have small tanks if it’s got A smaller Engine u will have A smaller fuel tank. Diesel
Will have more Power with Diesel, if u don’t want to mess with Deff Look for Trucks u see 2014 used to get by the Deff.
HAHAHAHAHAH ! Great video and your wife is definitely not camera shy. Lol!
We have a gas powered truck. We live in Canada where the winters are cold. Diesel motors don’t start as easily in the cold. Most drivers just keep them running rather than shutting them off.
How about piece of mind or resale value. Exhaust brakes.
Diesel is the greater value.
We were towing a 6,200 lb travel trailer with a 5.7L hemi and we were getting around 7mpg. This last trip I rented a ram 2500 with the Cummins diesel and we averaged 13mpg. The cost of fuel is probably pretty close to what we would have spent on gas with the other tow vehicle however the ease of which that Cummins diesel managed all the heels and even passing slower vehicles was well worth the cost of renting. If I was moving our camper every month or more I'd definitely buy a diesel. Since we only move every 3 to 6 months for work then I'll just rent when I need it.
I'm curious how hard it is to find a diesel truck rental. And do they have weight limits on the trailer?
@@jeffmockus5400 I have had no issues with enterprise truck rental and the limit is whatever the truck is rated to tow. They didn't even ask what we were towing.
When you trade it or sell it, you'll get your $10k back, if not more. My 03 Ram 2500 with H.O. diesel, ran it to 180k miles, I got more than the $$$ difference between the gas and diesel engine compared to what the diesel option cost when I sold it.
So, longer between oil changes, far better fuel economy and I actually made a profit on the Cummins.
Here is something i would like to see - a motorhome with a seires diesel electric hybrid drivetrain. An electric motor for traction, An EV battery that is charged with a diesel generator that is tuned for maximum efficiency. It may be possible to get 20+ MPG in a motorhome.
I prefer towing with a diesel for comfort. The truck doesn't have to constantly change gears like gas trucks do. Heck last time I towed with a gas truck it was a 2014 Ram 1/2 ton and it just hung in 4th gear and sometimes 3rd gear on hills. As far as maintenance goes, I've found the maintenance to be a wash. Maybe it's just a Cummins thing (I have owned 6, still own 2) but the maintenance schedule on diesels is much longer than gas, or at least it was last time I had a gas truck. Dodge/Ram recommends 7500 mile oil change intervals if you tow all the time, 15,000 if you do not, so I split it at 10,000 miles. I'd like to tow with a new gas truck to see how they perform towing my trailer, but I went back with diesel in 2020 because I knew how it was going to perform. I have a 2018 Ram SLT 4x4 towing a Rockwood Ultra Light 2304DS weighing 5550 empty, but it's tall and is a bit of a parachute.
Great truck!
OMG someone who actually did the used oil thing! I would love to do that. Where do I find out about how that went?? How old of a truck do you need I wonder.
You need an older truck that was made Pre-Def
I owe a gas power truck. I have a trailer to tow my can am spyder. I live in the desert 🏜. But, when I need to tow my can am, I have to drive 125 miles. Up the grade, the mountains. I do travel a lot. So, I need to figure out what will be more convenient and economical. So, I need to do more research. Any recommendations??
Had a diesel. Had several times that station did not have diesel fuel. Got fed up with the hassle, now we have a gas powered v7 with huge engine. Yes, fuel economy suffered but I’m OK with that. Would not go back to diesel. Live in High Desert, California. Camper is only 18 ft.
You can get a fuel card for diesel TSD Open Roads
we have one
Stumbled on this video because I'm also looking to move into a 3/4 ton truck for towing our 33' (28' interior) bumper pull. Our current truck (an '03 Silverado 1500 HD, 5.3l V8, long bed) has the chassis for it, but the engine REALLY struggles, even on moderate hills. I'm retiring in 6 months, and my wife and I have decided that we're going to move into a 3/4 ton that has a lot more capacity than what's needed for our current rig. I'm not brand loyal. Based solely on online research, I think that the top of my list is a GMC Sierra Denali HD, in a moderate trim level, and most likely a gas engine. As you have been, I'm on the fence about going Diesel or Gas, but an currently leaning toward gas. In my Gas/Diesel trade, I had not considered that diesels get better gas mileage (I've never had a Diesel), which is appealing, even though diesel is more expensive than gas. Whatever engine I get, I do want ample low-end torque, as we plan to spend quite a bit of time camping in the mountains. I'm planning to make the purchase in November or December, and am hoping to get a good deal on a truck that has been on the lot for a while. Even so, the price tags on these things have me squirming in my seat. I'll probably pay cash (or close to it), but still, OUCH! Anyway, all of that as a preamble for saying thanks for the honest coverage of gas vs. diesel, considering your own biases (these are the most important for any buyer).
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Our current tow vehicle is 2011 3/4 ton suburban; 6.0L 3.73 gears. Night and day difference towing from our 1500 suburban; 5.7L 3.73 gears. I'm browsing trucks - I favor Ford, so would go with Godzilla if we stay gas. I'd rather have the diesel and never give 2 thoughts about getting up, or down for that matter, the mountains once we finally take the opportunity to get out there. But she's fighting me on the diesel. Good luck with your purchase and enjoy retirement
We bought a 2024 Chevy 2500iHD High Country. Love it! We decided against diesel. Didn't feel that I needed the low-rpm torque of a diesel, didn't want to pay the extra $10K, and didn't want to have to deal with DEF and higher diesel prices (even with the better MPG of a diesel). The 2500 High Country pulls our rig like a dream. Pulled up some pretty steep grades this past weekend with no problem at all. Most importantly, my wife loves the ride and the creature comforts of the High Country. If Momma ain't happy.... LOL
How easy is backing up? So easy, even Rachal can do it.
Turbo kit or supercharge the gas engine for less than the diesel
Did you try to purchase through Costco?
That's the ONLY way I will ever buy my vehicles.
We've bought 3 that way.
We got a better deal than the Costco offer. With that being said, I have not had much luck using Costco to purchase vehicles. I tried twice and the dealer that Costco sent me to would not honor the price or try to tack on fees.
In North Central Texas, many GM and Ram dealers are taking 5000 off sticker since supply has caught up. I'm not sure about Ford. I have a2021 F150 XLT with the Max Tow package that i have enjoyed.
My observation of driving all 3 brands in the 3/4 tons over the past few months is that the Ford doesn't give as nice as ride as the Ram or GM.
I would agree that Ram gives a better ride however Rams generally dont have nearly the towing capacity or payload. When it comes to towing, that is more important to me
@2KrazyKampers This is true because Ram refuses to gross up the weight on the 3/4 tons. Everyone that I have seen is a GVWR at 10K pounds. Many, if not all of the GM and Fords will go several hundreds of pounds above that threshold. I am not sure of Rams reasoning, but it certainly limits what you can tow with their Diesel.
Diesel -- 4 Ever... 😎👍
It's also relative to note that diesel engines last much longer than gas engines if taken care of.
I drive a 97 F250 (7.3 Powerstroke) that has nearly 400k miles. Over the next few months, we'll be going through everything replacing wear items as needed and prepping her for many more miles traveling in 2024!! 😁
What about resale?
Nice
Just remember, it’s gonna take you 10 years of ownership and payments just to break even with the extra cost of the diesel vs the gas engine. Please note at one time I had 3 - 7.3 diesels that I loved, now my personal truck is 6.2 , the work truck a v10 gas . What was the reason you didn’t get the 350?
Price and availability. As I said in the video, A diesel will not save you money however it does have more torque and make towing up and down mountains much easier. We just towed our new Alliance 294rk 2500 miles from Elkhart to NY to Florida and the exhaust brake alone made it worth it. Also, you can not put larger fuel tanks in gas trucks (at least legally). We were tired of having to stop every 100-150 miles with the gas engine. Our diesel truck has a 60 gallon fuel tank and when towing, we can go over 300 miles before getting to a half a tank.
Do you have cloth seats and are they comfortable ?
we have aftermarket Katskin Leather
You failed to mention the 1000lbs of payload you lose with the diesel engine which ultimately reduces your towing ability. Diesel engines truly shine in one ton vehicles; in 3/4 tons, gas affords
You more payload for towing.
It isn’t 1000 pounds. You actually lose more payload getting higher trim levels like lariat and king ranch.
The life span of diesel engines is better barring any catastrophic failures
A vortec 6.0L is good for at least 300,000 miles with no issues and there are a bunch of them with 400,000+ miles on them, tho. I agree a diesel makes sense if you are putting a ton of miles on the vehicle in a short amount of time or have a very heavy load to tow. But, it's really not needed in most cases and current regulations are really hurting diesel engine longevity. Hell, California may be outlawing them at some point.
Get a 350 then not 250 unless gas!
There were no F350s available with the options we wanted when we purchased. Also, we are happy with the F250 since it has more than enough towing capacity and payload for what we use it for.
Really hard to watch this video because of your mug plastered all over the screen instead of looking at pickups.
Guess what. Your nasty comment helps build my channel so thanks for being nasty.
Diesel cost more per gal, maintenance is more and 10k more than gas.....you'll get half back at resale
Take 20 yrs to recoup any savings
If your pulling heavy/ or long distance than diesel is the only way
It's pretty simple to figure out
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Bad choice getting that piece of crap of ford
Thanks for you opinion. Unfortunately, Ram doesn't have nearly the same payload or towing capacity.
@@2KrazyKampers that is not true a ram would been better it has a Cummins and it has a inline 6