He defined God as "everything that you don't know" on Joe Rogan podcast. But he defines God differently depending on who he is talking to. That rubbed me the wrong way at first as a christian, but then i realized that if the person he's talking to isn't a christian, and doesn't believe in God, he already knows they don't believe, so he defines God in a way they can understand, and a way they can relate to and/or respect. None of his definitions are false, God has many names. "I AM" is a name. I think it's brilliant now, because the conversation miraculously DOESN'T GRIND TO A HALT at that point. he steps over it like a cat steps over a landmine, like it's nothing. I can't get enough of this guy.
Spot on, he speaks about Christianity to atheist from the naturalist perspective. It’s essentially the same thing but a different way of looking at it.
You as a Christian should be more humble and less certain of whether or not definitions are correct...if u spent some time thinking as objectively as possible you would realise how little any of us know...that certainty u display is the very archetype of man creating God in his image rather than the other way round,a dangerous ideal,that almost makes sense...u should be both humbled and comfortable in your uncertainty and allow your faith to flourish regardless...that certainty is the reason why we have radicals and fundamentalists in most if not all religions...face it,we don't know shit...and that's ok...
@@qwertymcqwert7066 you are right, and it's troubling. I want to be certain, so I collect all I can, but no matter how much sense it makes, if I 'lean on my own understanding' it always gets me the same result, even if what I'm leaning on is the truth. The only thing safe and stable is faith itself, 'lean not on your own understanding.'
Ya, faith is a great cheat code for life. I'm an agnostic and likely always will be just because I believe I will always be too dumb to have everything figured out, even tho I'm pretty sure I've met both god and satan, and btw, they're chums and were just trying to work together to teach me. Plus there are other possible explanations for what I experienced.
TpXd8bXqT Can't you try? :( Is it because you were in an altered state of consciousness at the time that can't be explained? Were you dreaming, or on a psychoactive drug of some type?
anonymous person , the problem here is that that subjective feeling you're so passionately expressing is purely speculative in and of itself. That's the problem. And it's the problem that's continuously being debated all over the world. Not the fact in which those fortunate enough to experience the passion of the faith in the Holy Spirit subjectively experience, but the fact that no human being can ever be good or high enough to attest any of the speculated validities of God's great existence and power ...
Dr Mona Howard It May be subjective but it also makes sense. Also, god came to be a role model for us, and supposedly died for our sins, so we don’t have to be as good as god to be good Christians, nor should we expect other people to be as powerful as him, assuming God is real.
Have you ever heard of Alvin Plantinga or William Lane Craig's work? Many of their arguments, *when understood correctly*, make a case for theism and Christian from science and history. Plantinga has also written books such as "Where the Conflict Really Lies," the thesis of which is: "there is superficial conflict but deep concord between science and theistic religion, but superficial concord and deep conflict between science and naturalism."
It’s call the GOD of the GAP. Thunderstorm famine pandemic drought diseases tsunami natural disasters all were action of god. Now we know what they are. It’s easier to control dumb humans with hoax like a huge human looking down on you so be careful.so many delusional grown up adults are still around brainwashing younger generation to follow the same path. And the priests monks etc.. are laughing coz some dumb human is doing the marketing for them.
Used to pride myself in being atheist, before I realized it was nothing to be smug about. You trade one dogma for another, no matter how much you try to scrub that good ol' godhood stain off of your spirit. You can try bleaching it, but then it weakens you so much you might not even realize it. I still don't know about a literal _Higher Entity_ but the psychological archetype (or whatever you might call it) is something I now recognize in a very acute way. There is now not a single outspoken atheist I like. Anyone who makes a point to base themselves in the supposed lack of beliefs is someone I can only view with suspicion. All of my favorite lecturers, professors and public figures are, at the very least, deists. This is something that happened organically. The bitter, resentful people are all shuffling to my left side and -wonders!- the fun people are coming to my right hand. Hindsight is weird, I guess. 15-year-old-me would have thrown a huge fit at the very idea of liking someone like Peterson, if only because he's not an atheist.
axelord4ever strangely enough so were the scientists of old who produced something of value, they all either believed in a higher entity or made some room for the possibility, yet today atheism is somehow equated with science and higher intellect 😑😑😂😂
Well, that's that weird thing isn't it? My liking this goup of people is _empirical_ data set. The common point is that they're not atheists... So then I wondered why that was. Sometime it happens that I learn that this or that guy is an atheist, but it's always something I had to look into. Maybe the guy posted about it once in an obscure blog back in 2006 or something. It is *NEVER* something they wear on their shoulder. It's almost as if they take no pride in thinking there is no higher being. It's almost as if humility was a virtue.
how is that strange ? people were overwhelmingly theists, so a large proportion of scientists were also theists (less than the % in the population). Today, there is way less theists, so the same thing happens to scientists (the % is still lower than in the overall population, in fact the majority of scientists today are atheists).
I actually started reading some of his material not too long ago. CSLewisdoodles on youtube has some *GREAT* videos of narrated excerpts. ua-cam.com/users/CSLewisDoodle I highly recommend the channel. Will probably buy books eventually (I always do).
Was agnostic most of my life but once I understood a fragment of God's word, my life has improved in every facet. Family, relationships even business, I only lament that it took so long, I missed out on too much when I was blind. Fear of the Lord IS the beginning of Wisdom. Even if that wisdom is equivalent to one grain of sand out of all the grains of sand in the world, it is a huge blessing.
@@romilmahant2971 Lack of understanding or accepting of God is born out of arrogance and ignorance. I should know, I was once there, I had all the answers as you believe you do now then I questioned myself honestly as to the extent of my knowledge base and I realized my knowledge in the scheme of things is most likely one grain of sand out of all the grains of sands in all the oceans on earth. Of course when one is accomplished and has three college degrees culminating in a Doctorate as I was, it was a small skip and a jump to wrongly believe in my own accomplishments. Thankfully, I came to understand that all my accomplishments were nothing until I learned that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Good luck!
@@ExtrovertedCenobite Dude I'm not getting the point here. Would be glad if you can help me out. How did this sense of non fulfilment that what you know might not be the most comprehensive version of reality (that too after getting multiple degrees) that helped you getting in the search of answers? And how does exactly the fear of God leads to the emergence of wisdom? Isnt fear linked with tyranny?
Psalm 111:10 indeed says that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Also Job 28:28 says: "And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding." Matthew 10:28 is a really good reason to fear God: "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." This fear is not simply an awe of God's awesomeness, but rather a literal dread (Isaiah 8:13), a literal "being afraid", of God. If He can destroy both your body and your soul in Hell, He is so worthy of our fear.
@@irbazzia2590 what about the fear a child has towards their parents correcting them through discipline or disappointment? Is that tyranny based also? Is there no form of healthy and loving fear?
Understand the biblical definition of fear is different than being afraid. It is more an awe at the power and love of God, which when understood with help from the Spirit leads towards reformation. Wisdom is also not the same as intelligence, either.
I was having a serious moment of anxiety and reflection when you said q, "I've never seen anyone get away with anything ever not even once" e.q Such an insight and what a blatant truth that is! Thank you Mr Peterson.
@Nelson Giles Fortunately for us, no, because God offers forgiveness and Grace. BUT! Unfortunately for those who do not accept God's grace, there will be justice for their wrongs, and not only 100%, but 100% times infinite. Without repenting, there's no evading eternal punishment.
Nelson Giles Obviously not every action is judged in a court, but if someone “gets away with something evil”, then justice will come in different forms. Punishment such as constant emotional torment, like what happens to Raskolnikov from Crime and Punishment, or perhaps the action which he takes sets a train of reactions which will bite him in the ass 2 years later, which is what he was referring to in the video. Say you insult someone for the sake of making his day a worse one, and a year later, when applying for a job you desperately need, he turns out to be the interviewer. This isn’t the best example, but similar stuff happen all the time, and justice is not necessarily served right after the action which violates the moral code is committed, but maybe even decades after.
When I had my first awakening and realized how blessed I was , eventually my outlook on others turned into “do they even realize what God has given them? I have. I’m aware. I’m better.” What a joke. I thought myself better than the rest because of how much “wisdom” I gained. I was prideful and without realizing it, had fallen. Until the day came that I was shown that my sins don’t just effect me. They effect everyone. Everyone I loved. And that same day I cried and was humbled. I realized God was still with me , watching me, rooting for me. Someone I cast away, was always there for me. What love. What kindness. Thank you God. You’ve touched my heart. Whatever you have planned for me, thank you. Your blessings and mercy, no matter what shape they take, I accept them. Thank you. Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@Que684 I take his wisdom with a grain of salt. Peterson likes the morals of the bible, just like most people in the west, however, he doesn't believe in that Jesus has resurrected.
Before people get upset, keep in mind that your definition of God may vary and so does Dr. Peterson's understanding of God. I think the point of this clip is the same, regardless if you are religious or an atheist.
It is the bottom step - fear of God is the awakening of a conscience ... the "oh my gosh - I might be in trouble???" they start to worry about their salvation - nobody comes to God without this 1st step. It is the bottom rung of the ladder - the top is Wisdom ... the order goes like this and they are gifts - you can not learn them, they are given through grace. bottom to top - 1) fear of the Lord 2) Piety, 3) Fortitude 4) Knowledge 5) understanding 6) counsel 7) wisdom.
Such an incredibly powerful talk - potentially life changing! Can you imagine what the world would be like if we all understood this and lived by this principle?❤️ "Don't be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap." - Galatians 6:7
Any bozo can cherry pick the Gospels and take things out of context. (That by the way was a call not to fret, not to not work or plan.) Honestly believe or not, but don't be atheist dope. There are 2000 years of apologetics and every question you ever had or implied is covered. Go look it up rather than pretend to know crap.
Wow. Dare I say this? It sounded like a 4:39 Sermon. I have heard way worse Biblical Sermons done in 30 minutes. I will get plenty of flack for writing this, but I am praying that he becomes the next C. S. Lewis in a few years. He would be a most powerful force in a world of darkness.
Right. Agreed. “If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.” ~ C. S. Lewis
Hi Brian. Nice to read your thoughts. One may not agree but prayer is better. Look unto the Lor what you should really pray not what you want to pray. 2Cor.13.14
Basically the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom because if there is no higher authority you fear then there's no cap on how arrogant/hubristic you will become
Ok.....is that the old testament or the new testament? Also i think you are showing your lack of intelligence for interpreting them at face value. In that regard you are no better then a fundamentalist christian. And labeling everyone who is religious as fundamentalist is insulting.
RapidFireReaper you are literally doing the same to me.....just on what grounds can you be so confident that you are right and anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot? Tell me I would just love to hear your reasoning. Besides you do realize that if you are right all morality merely becomes opinions of other people right?
Whether or not an all knowing deity exists is neither here nor there. I do not know if one exists and i care to know even less. All i argue for is the belief of life beyond death and that there is more then what we just see with our own eyes. For if this time on this world is the only chance we have then any act of kindness and sympathy is logically meaningless unless it is for my own personal gain. If what you are saying is true then i should be able to kill you because i feel like it and not get in trouble for it. Your perception of the bible and religion in general is from the perspective of a child, taking it all at face value, the expectation that everything should be perfect, and the idea that humans are just good natured by default. And to make matters worse, you take anyone who is religious, and lump them into the same category as isis and the kkk. Claiming they are the worst of all evil, blatantly ignoring the soviet union, as well as modern day china. Which are not only completely atheists, it demands that their citizens are atheists under pain of death. But i suppose that's just an inconvenience that you just decide to ignore huh? The bible....nay all religious text are only nonsense if you choose to look at them at face value, which in turn proves how short sighted you really are. I suggest you take a look at yourself and get your act together, before you even entertain the thought of criticizing someone else for anything. And if you're like those naturalists, and claim that all we are are physical entities. Then i suggest you watch this and tell me that again. ua-cam.com/video/WnoIf2NwaRY/v-deo.html
Ok 1. your entire premise is based on the assumption that we could eventually reprogram people to think and act how we want, which goes against so many different human rights violations its insane. And 2 That is absolutely false, usually when you get brain damage what happens isn't that you become a different person. What happens is you lose the ability to put on masks or put in a public facade for others. All brain damage does is reveal you for what you really are. It doesn't turn you into an completely different person. Also could you please do a little better then regurgitate Hitchens and Dawkins like their word is absolute truth? But i suppose you are right about one thing, atheism isn't what i have an issue with. It's Scientism. The idea that Science is the only path to truth, philosophy is dead, and only 10% of the world population is actually intelligent. Honestly maybe you could get your message across if you didn't combine keep telling people how utterly meaningless they are in the world. Cause then all that's left is to satisfy ones carnal desires, live a life of emptiness and then disappear into the void. Besides what happens to those who live in 3rd world, war torn countries who struggle every day just to survive? What? Sucks to be them? This is why i hate naturalist atheists, because of how out of touch with everyone else they are. Everyone just rots in the ground and ceases to be when they die and if they don't live in a first world country well tough shit. Seriously the way you talk you almost come off as saying that modern day china is an ideal society.
'I have never in all my years seen anyone get away with anything'. Good lord, that line just hit me like a ton of bricks. I see how unhappy and bereft I am, and I think to myself, 'why am I cursed, why has God or the Universe of whatever condemned me to this misery?' But then I look back and think to myself of all the times I was weak, all the times I lied to myself, all the times I allowed myself to shrink within my shell, all the times I allowed myself to rest on my laurels and not move forwards. This is entirely a bed of my own making, and the worst thing is I can see exactly where it could lead in the future. And try as I might to allow this 'fear of god' to motivate me to push forwards, all it seems to do is lead me further and further into despair. I know what he's saying here is true, but it's hardly encouraging to think that almost everything that's wrong with you is your own fault.
In my youth, I flew fighters in the U.S. Navy. The consequences of being "on your high horse" or hubris were often instant and catastrophic. There was a saying in the community. "Don't believe your own bullshit!" We all have a degree of hubris and we could strut around with the best of them, but we mostly realized that if you invest too much in that, you could end up in a smoking hole! I'm retired now, but the same attitude also served me well flying in the airlines. It's a good motto for life...don't believe your own bullshit!
I will say this about "that line" he was talking about...I left highschool to do school online...everything fell apart for nearly 2 years until I made a damn schedule...working out what I want, time I'll spend on it, then creating the best possible day with all my aspirations...it gave me the same feeling I get after a good workout...just that feeling where you're like I can take on anything you throw at me...I guess you'd call that unstopable
Yes and we also see the law of grace everyday which is actually stronger and brings us into harmony with the law when we recognize it..just my thoughts
I have watched this short video way more times than any other video in my life. You’ll see how much truth he speaks in other people’s lives you know as well as your own.
David Ortiz I definitely appreciate those values. I think they're extremely powerful and beneficial for individuals and society. I just don't see why fear of God (or belief in God at all) is necessary to possess them?
Piano Slayer , the saying means you can possess all those values without having to fear God but doing that means you have only those values and everything else the world and yourself can give you. But, and it's a big BUT, if you don't fear God then those values or anything of this world and of yourself ends in just that - "knowledge". Knowledge of those values/things/yourself. Wisdom, however, comes only when truly fearing God begins within you ...
I agree mostly with what Jordan said but just thought I would include more of the Scripture verse that is mentioned for a clearer picture of Who God is and what He thinks of us. Psalm 103:1-18 Psalm 103 Of David. 1 Praise the Lord, my soul; all my inmost being, praise his holy name. 2 Praise the Lord, my soul, and forget not all his benefits- 3 who forgives all your sins and heals all your diseases, 4 who redeems your life from the pit and crowns you with love and compassion, 5 who satisfies your desires with good things so that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s. 6 The Lord works righteousness and justice for all the oppressed. 7 He made known his ways to Moses, his deeds to the people of Israel: 8 The Lord is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love. 9 He will not always accuse, nor will he harbor his anger forever; 10 he does not treat us as our sins deserve or repay us according to our iniquities. 11 For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his love for those who fear him; 12 as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us. 13 As a father has compassion on his children, so the Lord has compassion on those who fear him; 14 for he knows how we are formed, he remembers that we are dust. 15 The life of mortals is like grass, they flourish like a flower of the field; 16 the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more. 17 But from everlasting to everlasting the Lord’s love is with those who fear him, and his righteousness with their children’s children- 18 with those who keep his covenant and remember to obey his precepts.
Amen! Just add he's not a Christian I don't believe but wow if God chooses to save him he could be used tremendously by the Holy Spirit . He is super bright . Very eloquent 👍😊
Professor Peterson has done a simple, yet incredibly amazing job by intriguing his listeners to seek out God. He understands that the way to minimize the pains of consciousness is by developing a healthy relationship with our creator. In which the person obeys the will of God and diminishes the chances of acting in a narcissistic self-destructive manner.
Powerful message, he is the first person I have heard in my life that can integrate and rationally explain the Bible in modern terms. I have listened to many priests and pastors that don’t come near him, it’s frightening. They could all learn something from him
That's true for me mostly aswell, I'm grateful now to have a pastor of a small church who does bring biblical word into modern terms, it's very inspiring, as is this Jordan man
The last thing he says is so unintentionally BRILLIANT!!! He said," There are rules, and if you break them, God help you" Exactly Jordan, that is why JEHOVAH, sent JESUS!
Sometimes I cry out! (Interiorly) 'Why am I not doing more, Lord?' then I see how CAREFUL we have to be, how READY we need to be, how TIRED I get when I do it right and then I know there are openings and to be ready for those.
This is so true and even deeper than that. Evil forces will try to make you sinn so you have to pray and stay strong against your own demons that comes when you let your guard down when you feel good and are in zen but not aware..
How do you believe in the Creator, when the Creator already existed before your beliefs? Science looks for Empirical Evidence. The only things is, we live in Empirical Evidence. A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent upon arriving. A good artist lets his intuition lead him wherever it wants. A good scientist has freed himself of concepts and keeps his mind open to what is. Thus the Master is available to all people and doesn't reject anyone. He is ready to use all situations and doesn't waste anything. This is called embodying the light. What is a good man but a bad man's teacher? What is a bad man but a good man's job? If you don't understand this, you will get lost, however intelligent you are. It is the great secret.
Seth Frisby You didn't give me an actual answer. I'd like to hear you put it in your own words. Clearly, you value Mr. Peterson's words. I've watched many of his videos and debates and noticed that he never insults people, even those with whom he disagrees. How will it help you spread your argument or case if you insult people instead of explaining your case?
thecsslife That sounds fairly evasive. One of the reasons I'm asking the question is because I want to hear if anyone can make a good case for this video being so profound. I actually don't think it's particularly profound at all and I've yet to hear anyone be able to argue otherwise effectively.
Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil. Ecclesiastes 8:11
A girl cheats on a guy that loved her then breaks up with him to cover up what she did. 2 years later that girl has gone mentally insane and is unlovable emotional wreck because she got used and cheated on by the guy she left him for . I've literally seen this happen . This is an example of never getting away with it .. Mr Peterson has logically stumbled across this in his line of work . And it's made him realise the fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom . But the end is receiving the Holy Ghost and being sealed into the kingdom (Ephesians 4v30)(*AT THIS POINT YOU'RE NO LONGER A SINNER*) Mr Peterson is at the beginning and that's his veiwpoint he is explaining here. *Grace* However for those trying to understand Grace , sin is unbelief . As in not believing Jesus Christ died for your sins. When God sees that you do believe he gives you the Holy Ghost and dwells in you . You become a sinner saved by grace. You will still sin ( mistakes) but the blood of Jesus Christ attones for that sin . Hence why the bible says he that is born of God cannot sin. To be saved you must accept in your heart that Jesus Christ came down on earth walked , lived , eat here on thus very earth . And died for your sins. And his blood is the atonement God sees for your sins.
I’ve experienced this! I met my first girlfriend when I was 16 and we split when I was 21, long story short I worked very hard for things to work out. After I had sent her a long paragraph it turned out that she wasn’t taking the time to think, she already had another boyfriend. I got upset and this is what happened. She laughed at me, she told me that he is so perfect and that he is 100 times better than me, that he had changed her so much for the better, how he takes her out and buys her things, and that she didn’t think about me and wished she ended our relationship much earlier (I ended it but changed my mind). I was very upset and suicidal and for the first time in my life I pleaded to Jesus, I then blocked her on everything. She messaged me a few weeks later asking me if I had changed my number, I knew things went wrong and I ignored her. I spoke to her again a month later because I owed her money and then we spoke about what happened and she told me that he cheated on her and laughed about it as if she was nothing, the difference here was that I didn’t laugh at her like she laughed at me when I cried over her, and it really came back to bite her and told me that it was killing her. I’ve seen this with other people too. Jesus completely changed my life.
xDvxZas amen bro, how long ago was this if you don't mind me asking . I was in the exact same situation you were in a year ago . And thanks be to God I'm I a much better position now .
He said something very profound to me here.. when he mentioned the Old Testament and the commandments I got this : The commandments are a way to live life so that internally you can be at peace and feel good while living. Hell isnt a firey pit it’s the reality you live with when you don’t follow those commandments
The “rules” are meant specifically for the non-believer for simplicity sake understanding why the big 10 (actually the 613) applies to those the mis-informed of not knowing the grace of God is God, arrived in the new covenant. Dominion was gifted to man. It’s on us. God is not your errand boy. Once you believe and receive, soon the next step is understanding that sin consciousness has no place to practice, especially when one receives the Holy Spirit. I’m reminded it’s none of my business how others treat me. It is my business how I treat others. Have a great day people.
If in Nietszche's view the Old Testament is a really accurate representation of the phenomenology of Being, then the New Testament is Nietszche's ubermensch.
4Sk That’s up to your concept of god , I’m not going to get into a sterile debate with you but take this short advice : If you don’t believe in god just stay humble cause you didn’t become one and don’t mock others who have faith in him ,it doesn’t make them wrong . Peace
This must be one of his best speeches. Reality shows it is true, and there is a great solace in the justice of God. A Dutch man of the resistance in WWII once said: In the end I don't accept any human law and any people. I only obey God. It is all about Him and about humanity.
Dr.Peterson is bang on. He is seeking the truth and he understands some things are absolute. We disobeyed God from the get go. And we continue to this very day. God’s rule are not negotiable. So all things we do in our life we are accountable for....so. ...time to take stock of who we are and what we hope to become. I have been a Christian since I was 14 and I still and always will make mistake. We are human. But for me I have an out. I hope you do.....
What Jordan says here is the truth. I'm almost 40 years old, and listen to me young pals, I've seen some dozens of people (including myself) try to twist things and they just break themselves against the rock. It's no game, no game... Flow with it, and you'll be just fine (and even more than fine if you're wise enough).
AWResistance/// ohhh little puppet calm down, I know you feel like punishing them, everyone has some little rascal inside, and the definition of wickedness is such a wide concept, like "let's get wickedly naked and go for a swim" LOL
02:41 - 03:37 - You get away with nothing. If you watch closely, it is the answer to what has gone wrong in history since the beginning - Man has always thought he can get away and have resulted wars, revolutions, carnage, betrayals, pillages. That's what I meant when I said "have you been living under a rock" to not have seen this happen every time Man bends reality (02:41 - 03:37) and thinks there will be no consequences. This consequences part is what Simone Tiu said above that laws we break (betrayals, infidelity, insincerity, justice, moderation) are just as real as physical laws (in that spiritual laws have consequences just as physical laws do)
@@drmonahoward5152 I don't think so. It's hard to believe in it but I can only recommend to scrape under the surface of those people who seemingly get away with anything and see what you discover. Most likely you will find that they are paying the price, no matter how much they try to cover it up.
Jordan is Brilliant...what he does is simply put a Topic out there for discussion..not really to pick a side but to make those involved see things from a neutral perspective...does it without offending anyone, which is a plus
He said that he's never seen anyone get away with anything which would infer that nobody ever gets away with anything. That's most definitely picking a side.
@@ajaxcastle9400 Not really, I think that's in relation to Karma which everyone would have to agree comes into play at some point in ones life...it might not happen immediately but as time goes on it will eventually happen. This is not picking a side just stating the obvious
If you believe that nobody ever gets away with anything, that's your opinion. I believe that people get away with things all the time. There's nothing neutral about either perspective.
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Well, it depends on how you're thinking about "getting away" with something. In some sense, you may get away with a thing, but it may affect you in ways you didn't expect or were smart enough to realize. Maybe you'll look back and put it together. So dear lord, stay honest.
There is so much more to christianity than just following God and reading the word. We are entitled to spiritual blessings and abilities if we humbly believe and have unwavering faith in him. Acts ch 22 I believe, it speaks of men and women receiving dreams and visions in the end of days, and I can tell you that is 100% factual. God, Jesus, is more real and full of beauty, power, and glory, than any of us can comprehend and I have seen it firsthand. No words can describe his love and glory. Have faith because we have a God in control of everything, even when it seems there is no hope. Asking God for true wisdom from a place of humility, you better be prepared because with our fragile egos as humans it can be hard when God makes you to know good and evil, and makes you to know how not good you (we all) are. That's why he is so good though, the mercy he shew to send his Son to die a perfect being to cover our sins even though we are wretched. Repent, believe, transform, have faith. If anyone believes with his whole heart pray for a vision, and if it is meant to be you will recieve. Just have faith and patience in praying. It took two weeks of prayer for me, and I wasnt fully expecting it. God bless you all, and Jordan peterson is the man 😄
I am "born again" and am surprised how close to Christian teaching this is. Mr Peterson has my respect but of course. The difference I could bring up is that when he calls something a mistake it is called a sin in the Bible. Sin and mistake are not the same. Christ died for those sins and it had to be that way. You can only change some things ...only God has can make the big changes.
I'm amused and intrigued by how many Christians are attracted to Jordan Peterson's teaching, when his approach is really far closer to Jewish Orthodoxy than New Testament Christianity. I think the main reason is because secular humanism, propping up science as its Fountainhead of 'knowledge', has attempted to completely throw overboard the idea of universal morality, and is encountering the consequences.
Yep! He deals with the heart..that's why the Pharisee and Saducees were called hypocrites and a brood of vipers...coz the only cleaned the outside of the cup while the inside was dirty...
Everything he said was from the Bible. Even this clip was extracted from his series of lectures where he analyzes the Bible. Wisdom is from the LORD, fear Him.
If you fear god you can't love God and if you can't love God it's not worth it. In my opinion god is real but in what shape or for I don't know. The point is when you're forced to do something then that is where things go wrong.
God shows us who he is in some shapes and forms. Many call him “Heavenly Father”,which is a good example of fear and love working together (ie. kids fearing but loving their loving parents at same time). Generally speaking...Kids aren’t forced to love or even listen to their dad, but it doesn’t go well for them if they don’t. No one is forced to love or accept God, and that’s what hell is as I understand it. Hell is basically one’s option to say “I don’t want anything to do with you”. Hope this rant helps you.
@@Mr61236 you can be forced to love god(though not effective) as the religion demands it... thing is we are humans and we want to be able to decide right ? it's like telling a kid who does not want to stop playing to stop playing and it gets mad at you... or if you tell them to do something on command more times than not they will fail because they have the pressure on them. now if you let them find their own way ( within reason) they will go at it with an entirely honest and human way that does not require one to fear hell or death or anything else! religion is full of contradictions which is probably the point of it where for some people it is enough and for others they need to go about it an entirely different way thus the contradictions are meant to show you these things.
I hear you. I just think if one really took a look in the Bible at what Jesus is about, it’s not about a bunch of rules and commands. People asked him for rules in bible to put Jesus in a box, but He was pretty vague bc it’s not really about the rules, but the heart (priorities, desires, values). He actually seems to only aggressively oppose “religious” people (that claim to know everything, but got it wrong) and is super patient and kind with the “sinners” (ie. prostitute, adulterer, tax collectors, non-religious folk). Just hope u don’t let “religion” get in the way of you being open to God. Jesus didn’t like it when religious church folk got things twisted also. We probably have a lot more in common with Jesus in that respect than we think. I think God is pretty patient about letting people make bad choices but hoping they make the right one. I know That’s how it is with me. Take care.
@@Mr61236 heh i can say this about me.. sometimes it takes 100 mistakes to notice i did something wrong then another 30-40 tries to fix the problem i made for myself though it will never be fixed completely atleast it can be mended to a point
It's good to hear a grown man say he's terrified of God. Now, I know Dr. Peterson knows God is Love and that God wants us to "fear" Him in an attitude of reverence for who He is. But I love the way he takes a stern tone and warns us about crossing the line into disobedience. It's funny when you see God's wrath on someone else, but it's not funny when His wrath is on you. I should know: I've crossed that line enough times to know I can't get away with anything. And I've lived long enough to know that no one else gets away with anything either. Nevertheless, it's not our "toeing the line" that saves us. We are supposed to do that and we transgress often. It's that God's Son toed the line perfectly and we are accepted because of Him. Nuf said.
You cannot separate the New Testament from the Old the Testament. 380 precise prophecies were fulfilled in the Birth or incarnation of the Messiah, Son of God, Jesus the Lord Christ, the Second Person of the Trinity.
Plus God is revealed in both the new and the old testament. The thing that changes is that we are under the new covenant and not the old through Christ Jesus.
There is no God but ONE! KING OF ALL KINGS. OWNER OF THE MIGHTY THROWN. CREATOR OF ALL HEAVENS AND EVERYTHING WE KNOW AND DONT KNOW. God bless. May God have us all walk the path of the righteous and enter one of the heavens. Ameen.
Dear Dr. Peterson, the BIBLE is NOT an ALLEGORY for your UNBIBLICAL WORLDVIEW! I appreciate that you love the Bible, I just wish you did for the right reasons.
It’s helpful to understand the solid meaning behind the term “Fear of God” In it’s best state, you see that it’s not necessarily a fear born out of trying to simply avoid some form of devine punishment. It’s more like being mindful of, or respecting God. The old term “A God fearing man” simply means: A person who acknowledges and respects the idea of a moral lawgiver, and has decided to align actions and behaviour with (non-subjective) moral law. Hahaha! It all starts with “cleaning your damn room!”
Modern society has lost the concept of God as an all powerful lawgiver.As a result it degenerates.We need the idea of God if my understanding of Peterson is correct as an antidote to chaos.Modern liberal rationalism simply doesn't work very well..
It was indeed ominous to hear Peterson, a self professed agnostic, say in all his years of clinical psychiatry he has never once seen anyone truly "Get away" with anything.
He defined God as "everything that you don't know" on Joe Rogan podcast. But he defines God differently depending on who he is talking to. That rubbed me the wrong way at first as a christian, but then i realized that if the person he's talking to isn't a christian, and doesn't believe in God, he already knows they don't believe, so he defines God in a way they can understand, and a way they can relate to and/or respect. None of his definitions are false, God has many names. "I AM" is a name. I think it's brilliant now, because the conversation miraculously DOESN'T GRIND TO A HALT at that point. he steps over it like a cat steps over a landmine, like it's nothing. I can't get enough of this guy.
Exactly!
Spot on, he speaks about Christianity to atheist from the naturalist perspective. It’s essentially the same thing but a different way of looking at it.
You as a Christian should be more humble and less certain of whether or not definitions are correct...if u spent some time thinking as objectively as possible you would realise how little any of us know...that certainty u display is the very archetype of man creating God in his image rather than the other way round,a dangerous ideal,that almost makes sense...u should be both humbled and comfortable in your uncertainty and allow your faith to flourish regardless...that certainty is the reason why we have radicals and fundamentalists in most if not all religions...face it,we don't know shit...and that's ok...
God's ways are not our ways. God is mysterious folks...live with it!
@@qwertymcqwert7066 you are right, and it's troubling. I want to be certain, so I collect all I can, but no matter how much sense it makes, if I 'lean on my own understanding' it always gets me the same result, even if what I'm leaning on is the truth. The only thing safe and stable is faith itself, 'lean not on your own understanding.'
Was an atheist my whole life and was never happy
The moment I started to believe even a little, things got better.
Ya, faith is a great cheat code for life. I'm an agnostic and likely always will be just because I believe I will always be too dumb to have everything figured out, even tho I'm pretty sure I've met both god and satan, and btw, they're chums and were just trying to work together to teach me. Plus there are other possible explanations for what I experienced.
God bless you!
@David Merchant I dont speak whatever language that is
@@TheRABIDdude I truly wish I could, but would be impossible to with words.
TpXd8bXqT Can't you try? :(
Is it because you were in an altered state of consciousness at the time that can't be explained? Were you dreaming, or on a psychoactive drug of some type?
"Truth is the antidote to chaos." -J.P.
anonymous person , the problem here is that that subjective feeling you're so passionately expressing is purely speculative in and of itself. That's the problem. And it's the problem that's continuously being debated all over the world. Not the fact in which those fortunate enough to experience the passion of the faith in the Holy Spirit subjectively experience, but the fact that no human being can ever be good or high enough to attest any of the speculated validities of God's great existence and power ...
Dr Mona Howard It May be subjective but it also makes sense. Also, god came to be a role model for us, and supposedly died for our sins, so we don’t have to be as good as god to be good Christians, nor should we expect other people to be as powerful as him, assuming God is real.
order is the cure to chaos
but chaos is the truth
@@dr.monreauphd8488 no matter what you do everything tends towards chaos
I'm an Agnostic scientist with strong Christian values. There are many things we don't know, and we should be humble.
Have you ever heard of Alvin Plantinga or William Lane Craig's work? Many of their arguments, *when understood correctly*, make a case for theism and Christian from science and history. Plantinga has also written books such as "Where the Conflict Really Lies," the thesis of which is: "there is superficial conflict but deep concord between science and theistic religion, but superficial concord and deep conflict between science and naturalism."
then you don't have Christian values. If you did you wouldn't be agnostic, you'd be Christian. That concludes your lesson in logic.
@Ben Mason logic is not a paint job
um no shit? it wouldn't be logic then. logic isn't superficial or decorative.
It’s call the GOD of the GAP. Thunderstorm famine pandemic drought diseases tsunami natural disasters all were action of god. Now we know what they are. It’s easier to control dumb humans with hoax like a huge human looking down on you so be careful.so many delusional grown up adults are still around brainwashing younger generation to follow the same path. And the priests monks etc.. are laughing coz some dumb human is doing the marketing for them.
Used to pride myself in being atheist, before I realized it was nothing to be smug about. You trade one dogma for another, no matter how much you try to scrub that good ol' godhood stain off of your spirit. You can try bleaching it, but then it weakens you so much you might not even realize it.
I still don't know about a literal _Higher Entity_ but the psychological archetype (or whatever you might call it) is something I now recognize in a very acute way.
There is now not a single outspoken atheist I like. Anyone who makes a point to base themselves in the supposed lack of beliefs is someone I can only view with suspicion. All of my favorite lecturers, professors and public figures are, at the very least, deists.
This is something that happened organically. The bitter, resentful people are all shuffling to my left side and -wonders!- the fun people are coming to my right hand. Hindsight is weird, I guess. 15-year-old-me would have thrown a huge fit at the very idea of liking someone like Peterson, if only because he's not an atheist.
axelord4ever strangely enough so were the scientists of old who produced something of value, they all either believed in a higher entity or made some room for the possibility, yet today atheism is somehow equated with science and higher intellect 😑😑😂😂
Well, that's that weird thing isn't it?
My liking this goup of people is _empirical_ data set. The common point is that they're not atheists... So then I wondered why that was.
Sometime it happens that I learn that this or that guy is an atheist, but it's always something I had to look into. Maybe the guy posted about it once in an obscure blog back in 2006 or something. It is *NEVER* something they wear on their shoulder.
It's almost as if they take no pride in thinking there is no higher being. It's almost as if humility was a virtue.
how is that strange ?
people were overwhelmingly theists, so a large proportion of scientists were also theists (less than the % in the population).
Today, there is way less theists, so the same thing happens to scientists (the % is still lower than in the overall population, in fact the majority of scientists today are atheists).
Read some CS Lewis sometime, I think it'll help you out a lot in your search.
I actually started reading some of his material not too long ago. CSLewisdoodles on youtube has some *GREAT* videos of narrated excerpts.
ua-cam.com/users/CSLewisDoodle
I highly recommend the channel. Will probably buy books eventually (I always do).
Pride comes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 16:18
Was agnostic most of my life but once I understood a fragment of God's word, my life has improved in every facet. Family, relationships even business, I only lament that it took so long, I missed out on too much when I was blind. Fear of the Lord IS the beginning of Wisdom. Even if that wisdom is equivalent to one grain of sand out of all the grains of sand in the world, it is a huge blessing.
God is born out of your fear and gullibility
@@romilmahant2971 Lack of understanding or accepting of God is born out of arrogance and ignorance.
I should know, I was once there, I had all the answers as you believe you do now then I questioned myself honestly as to the extent of my knowledge base and I realized my knowledge in the scheme of things is most likely one grain of sand out of all the grains of sands in all the oceans on earth.
Of course when one is accomplished and has three college degrees culminating in a Doctorate as I was, it was a small skip and a jump to wrongly believe in my own accomplishments. Thankfully, I came to understand that all my accomplishments were nothing until I learned that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
Good luck!
@@ExtrovertedCenobite Dude I'm not getting the point here. Would be glad if you can help me out.
How did this sense of non fulfilment that what you know might not be the most comprehensive version of reality (that too after getting multiple degrees) that helped you getting in the search of answers?
And how does exactly the fear of God leads to the emergence of wisdom? Isnt fear linked with tyranny?
Psalm 111:10 indeed says that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Also Job 28:28 says: "And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding." Matthew 10:28 is a really good reason to fear God: "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." This fear is not simply an awe of God's awesomeness, but rather a literal dread (Isaiah 8:13), a literal "being afraid", of God. If He can destroy both your body and your soul in Hell, He is so worthy of our fear.
@@irbazzia2590 what about the fear a child has towards their parents correcting them through discipline or disappointment? Is that tyranny based also? Is there no form of healthy and loving fear?
Understand the biblical definition of fear is different than being afraid. It is more an awe at the power and love of God, which when understood with help from the Spirit leads towards reformation. Wisdom is also not the same as intelligence, either.
Shane Waters bullshit fear is fear
Shane Waters there’s no such thing as intelligence.
It’s just a fleshly concept whipped up by the enemy to use one’s pride as a lever to conform them.
Shane Waters lol “also either “
JEAN RAMIREZ Word in the original manuscript refers to respect(pretty much what fear is) and awe.
Yeah I mean this is true... to a point. But the fear of God is certainly a literal fear of what He can do to you.
I was having a serious moment of anxiety and reflection when you said q, "I've never seen anyone get away with anything ever not even once" e.q
Such an insight and what a blatant truth that is! Thank you Mr Peterson.
@Nelson Giles
Fortunately for us, no, because God offers forgiveness and Grace.
BUT! Unfortunately for those who do not accept God's grace, there will be justice for their wrongs, and not only 100%, but 100% times infinite. Without repenting, there's no evading eternal punishment.
Nelson Giles
Obviously not every action is judged in a court, but if someone “gets away with something evil”, then justice will come in different forms. Punishment such as constant emotional torment, like what happens to Raskolnikov from Crime and Punishment, or perhaps the action which he takes sets a train of reactions which will bite him in the ass 2 years later, which is what he was referring to in the video. Say you insult someone for the sake of making his day a worse one, and a year later, when applying for a job you desperately need, he turns out to be the interviewer. This isn’t the best example, but similar stuff happen all the time, and justice is not necessarily served right after the action which violates the moral code is committed, but maybe even decades after.
When I had my first awakening and realized how blessed I was , eventually my outlook on others turned into “do they even realize what God has given them? I have. I’m aware. I’m better.” What a joke. I thought myself better than the rest because of how much “wisdom” I gained. I was prideful and without realizing it, had fallen. Until the day came that I was shown that my sins don’t just effect me. They effect everyone. Everyone I loved. And that same day I cried and was humbled. I realized God was still with me , watching me, rooting for me. Someone I cast away, was always there for me. What love. What kindness. Thank you God. You’ve touched my heart. Whatever you have planned for me, thank you. Your blessings and mercy, no matter what shape they take, I accept them. Thank you. Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️
When I worship God, it's the only time I truly feel peace.
Then worship Him as much as you can.
@@thatsamuellu 24/7
Best teacher in the modern age.
The fear of doing bad thing is the beginning of all wisdom
So much true wisdom in a single person. Thank you for sharing your wisdom Professor.
It's not his wisdom, all belongs to God.
@@Que684 I take his wisdom with a grain of salt. Peterson likes the morals of the bible, just like most people in the west, however, he doesn't believe in that Jesus has resurrected.
@@jonathans4503 to each his own my friend. Blessed day
A single person? "If you call me great, it's because I have stood on the shoulders of giants.
I guess he lost a lot of that wisdom in his debate with Matt Dillahunty. Absolutely terrible performance.
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“I have never known anyone to get away with anything at all. Ever. Not even once”. - Jordan B Peterson.
That’s because when someone gets away with something succesfully you don’t know it
@@beanos8750 nobody gets away with anything unlawful! Experience here speaks.
Before people get upset, keep in mind that your definition of God may vary and so does Dr. Peterson's understanding of God. I think the point of this clip is the same, regardless if you are religious or an atheist.
Muslims disliked.
I am a Muslim and I liked it, Christians don't realize how much the Quran and the new testament share.
Probably alot less than they don't share.
It is the bottom step - fear of God is the awakening of a conscience ... the "oh my gosh - I might be in trouble???" they start to worry about their salvation - nobody comes to God without this 1st step. It is the bottom rung of the ladder - the top is Wisdom ... the order goes like this and they are gifts - you can not learn them, they are given through grace. bottom to top - 1) fear of the Lord 2) Piety, 3) Fortitude 4) Knowledge 5) understanding 6) counsel 7) wisdom.
atheists are always upset anyway.
Such an incredibly powerful talk - potentially life changing! Can you imagine what the world would be like if we all understood this and lived by this principle?❤️
"Don't be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap."
- Galatians 6:7
What a moving and fascinating modern secular prophet. Kinda love the guy. May the Lord reveal to him his fully glory in the face of Jesus Christ.
Any bozo can cherry pick the Gospels and take things out of context. (That by the way was a call not to fret, not to not work or plan.) Honestly believe or not, but don't be atheist dope. There are 2000 years of apologetics and every question you ever had or implied is covered. Go look it up rather than pretend to know crap.
You are psychotic. It is a fairy tale. Get help.
Where did you come from nihilismtroll? Bye..
Neil Richardson/// I think the Lord aspired him to greatness, I believe Jesus would approve.
Cheri, you are psychotic. It is a fairy tale figure. Get help.
Wow. Dare I say this? It sounded like a 4:39 Sermon. I have heard way worse Biblical Sermons done in 30 minutes. I will get plenty of flack for writing this, but I am praying that he becomes the next C. S. Lewis in a few years. He would be a most powerful force in a world of darkness.
Right. Agreed. “If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.”
~ C. S. Lewis
If it's from the Holy Spirit, it is.
Brian Eckes
He's probably going to be the next Jordan Peterson.
I think his time is now.
Hi Brian. Nice to read your thoughts. One may not agree but prayer is better. Look unto the Lor what you should really pray not what you want to pray. 2Cor.13.14
The bad news: "There are rules and if you break them, God help you" -Peterson
The good news: You broke the rules but God help you.
Peter Hanley not if you keep breaking them
Kido
Every person breaks the rules in thought word and deed everyday ....our only hope is in the Lord Jesus Christ .
Like which sin?
God was clear there is not a big or a little sin, there is only sins.
God shall forgive you if you repentant
I read out aloud what you wrote. I feel sick!!
“But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost.” -The Apostle Paul
Basically the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom because if there is no higher authority you fear then there's no cap on how arrogant/hubristic you will become
Ok I'm convinced you literally pulled all that out of your ass, cause the bible says NONE of that.
Ok.....is that the old testament or the new testament? Also i think you are showing your lack of intelligence for interpreting them at face value. In that regard you are no better then a fundamentalist christian. And labeling everyone who is religious as fundamentalist is insulting.
RapidFireReaper you are literally doing the same to me.....just on what grounds can you be so confident that you are right and anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot? Tell me I would just love to hear your reasoning.
Besides you do realize that if you are right all morality merely becomes opinions of other people right?
Whether or not an all knowing deity exists is neither here nor there. I do not know if one exists and i care to know even less. All i argue for is the belief of life beyond death and that there is more then what we just see with our own eyes. For if this time on this world is the only chance we have then any act of kindness and sympathy is logically meaningless unless it is for my own personal gain. If what you are saying is true then i should be able to kill you because i feel like it and not get in trouble for it.
Your perception of the bible and religion in general is from the perspective of a child, taking it all at face value, the expectation that everything should be perfect, and the idea that humans are just good natured by default.
And to make matters worse, you take anyone who is religious, and lump them into the same category as isis and the kkk. Claiming they are the worst of all evil, blatantly ignoring the soviet union, as well as modern day china. Which are not only completely atheists, it demands that their citizens are atheists under pain of death. But i suppose that's just an inconvenience that you just decide to ignore huh?
The bible....nay all religious text are only nonsense if you choose to look at them at face value, which in turn proves how short sighted you really are. I suggest you take a look at yourself and get your act together, before you even entertain the thought of criticizing someone else for anything.
And if you're like those naturalists, and claim that all we are are physical entities. Then i suggest you watch this and tell me that again.
ua-cam.com/video/WnoIf2NwaRY/v-deo.html
Ok 1. your entire premise is based on the assumption that we could eventually reprogram people to think and act how we want, which goes against so many different human rights violations its insane.
And 2 That is absolutely false, usually when you get brain damage what happens isn't that you become a different person. What happens is you lose the ability to put on masks or put in a public facade for others. All brain damage does is reveal you for what you really are. It doesn't turn you into an completely different person.
Also could you please do a little better then regurgitate Hitchens and Dawkins like their word is absolute truth? But i suppose you are right about one thing, atheism isn't what i have an issue with. It's Scientism. The idea that Science is the only path to truth, philosophy is dead, and only 10% of the world population is actually intelligent.
Honestly maybe you could get your message across if you didn't combine keep telling people how utterly meaningless they are in the world. Cause then all that's left is to satisfy ones carnal desires, live a life of emptiness and then disappear into the void.
Besides what happens to those who live in 3rd world, war torn countries who struggle every day just to survive? What? Sucks to be them? This is why i hate naturalist atheists, because of how out of touch with everyone else they are. Everyone just rots in the ground and ceases to be when they die and if they don't live in a first world country well tough shit.
Seriously the way you talk you almost come off as saying that modern day china is an ideal society.
'I have never in all my years seen anyone get away with anything'. Good lord, that line just hit me like a ton of bricks. I see how unhappy and bereft I am, and I think to myself, 'why am I cursed, why has God or the Universe of whatever condemned me to this misery?' But then I look back and think to myself of all the times I was weak, all the times I lied to myself, all the times I allowed myself to shrink within my shell, all the times I allowed myself to rest on my laurels and not move forwards. This is entirely a bed of my own making, and the worst thing is I can see exactly where it could lead in the future. And try as I might to allow this 'fear of god' to motivate me to push forwards, all it seems to do is lead me further and further into despair. I know what he's saying here is true, but it's hardly encouraging to think that almost everything that's wrong with you is your own fault.
Thats deep man, you nailed it. Feel the exact same way
In my youth, I flew fighters in the U.S. Navy. The consequences of being "on your high horse" or hubris were often instant and catastrophic. There was a saying in the community. "Don't believe your own bullshit!" We all have a degree of hubris and we could strut around with the best of them, but we mostly realized that if you invest too much in that, you could end up in a smoking hole! I'm retired now, but the same attitude also served me well flying in the airlines. It's a good motto for life...don't believe your own bullshit!
the fear of God is the respect for the ETERNAL consequences by the judgement of God.
the fear of Edward Paterson is the respect for the ETERNAL consequences by the judgement of Edward Paterson.
רֵ֘אשִׁ֚ית חָכְמָ֨ה | יִרְאַ֬ת יְהֹוָ֗ה Psalm 111:10 The beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord;
The fear of God also has to do with love. Fear you could hurt God. But you'd have to live Him to have this fear.
Mr. 2cents. good point, I've never heard that, but it fits
Edward Paterson , no it's not silly ...
The first step to wisdom is admitting that you don’t know anything
Especially when it comes to metaphysical matters such a Supreme Deity.
Do you know that?
Bruh that's just a rewording of the Bible Verse in the video😂
I will say this about "that line" he was talking about...I left highschool to do school online...everything fell apart for nearly 2 years until I made a damn schedule...working out what I want, time I'll spend on it, then creating the best possible day with all my aspirations...it gave me the same feeling I get after a good workout...just that feeling where you're like I can take on anything you throw at me...I guess you'd call that unstopable
Yes and we also see the law of grace everyday which is actually stronger and brings us into harmony with the law when we recognize it..just my thoughts
Can you tell me what that law states?
I have watched this short video way more times than any other video in my life. You’ll see how much truth he speaks in other people’s lives you know as well as your own.
"The Fear of God is the beggining of wisdom." - proverbs 9:10. BOOM!
That happened to me the moment I converted from atheism.
Beginning
How is fear of God the beginning of wisdom? What about it makes one wise?
David Ortiz I definitely appreciate those values. I think they're extremely powerful and beneficial for individuals and society. I just don't see why fear of God (or belief in God at all) is necessary to possess them?
Piano Slayer , the saying means you can possess all those values without having to fear God but doing that means you have only those values and everything else the world and yourself can give you. But, and it's a big BUT, if you don't fear God then those values or anything of this world and of yourself ends in just that - "knowledge". Knowledge of those values/things/yourself. Wisdom, however, comes only when truly fearing God begins within you ...
Thanks God for Mr Peterson, he has been a blessing in my life
I agree mostly with what Jordan said but just thought I would include more of the Scripture verse that is mentioned for a clearer picture of Who God is and what He thinks of us. Psalm 103:1-18
Psalm 103
Of David.
1 Praise the Lord, my soul;
all my inmost being, praise his holy name.
2 Praise the Lord, my soul,
and forget not all his benefits-
3 who forgives all your sins
and heals all your diseases,
4 who redeems your life from the pit
and crowns you with love and compassion,
5 who satisfies your desires with good things
so that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s.
6 The Lord works righteousness
and justice for all the oppressed.
7 He made known his ways to Moses,
his deeds to the people of Israel:
8 The Lord is compassionate and gracious,
slow to anger, abounding in love.
9 He will not always accuse,
nor will he harbor his anger forever;
10 he does not treat us as our sins deserve
or repay us according to our iniquities.
11 For as high as the heavens are above the earth,
so great is his love for those who fear him;
12 as far as the east is from the west,
so far has he removed our transgressions from us.
13 As a father has compassion on his children,
so the Lord has compassion on those who fear him;
14 for he knows how we are formed,
he remembers that we are dust.
15 The life of mortals is like grass,
they flourish like a flower of the field;
16 the wind blows over it and it is gone,
and its place remembers it no more.
17 But from everlasting to everlasting
the Lord’s love is with those who fear him,
and his righteousness with their children’s children-
18 with those who keep his covenant
and remember to obey his precepts.
Amen! Just add he's not a Christian I don't believe but wow if God chooses to save him he could be used tremendously by the Holy Spirit . He is super bright . Very eloquent 👍😊
@@timsharpe6652 I agree with you that he is not a Christian....yet. :) God bless you brother.
Professor Peterson has done a simple, yet incredibly amazing job by intriguing his listeners to seek out God. He understands that the way to minimize the pains of consciousness is by developing a healthy relationship with our creator. In which the person obeys the will of God and diminishes the chances of acting in a narcissistic self-destructive manner.
Powerful message, he is the first person I have heard in my life that can integrate and rationally explain the Bible in modern terms. I have listened to many priests and pastors that don’t come near him, it’s frightening. They could all learn something from him
That's true for me mostly aswell, I'm grateful now to have a pastor of a small church who does bring biblical word into modern terms, it's very inspiring, as is this Jordan man
“And if he feareth not God, God will make him to fear all things; whereas all things fear him who feareth God.” - Bahá’u’lláh 🌿
The last thing he says is so unintentionally BRILLIANT!!! He said," There are rules, and if you break them, God help you" Exactly Jordan, that is why JEHOVAH, sent JESUS!
Sometimes I cry out! (Interiorly) 'Why am I not doing more, Lord?' then I see how CAREFUL we have to be, how READY we need to be, how TIRED I get when I do it right and then I know there are openings and to be ready for those.
Alhamdulillah for this man and his wise insights.
This is so true and even deeper than that. Evil forces will try to make you sinn so you have to pray and stay strong against your own demons that comes when
you let your guard down when you feel good and are in zen but not aware..
You can choose the sin but not the consequences. The Bible is the greatest most wonderful Book of all time!
Amen
True, started reading the Book of Matthew and you can really see that power in His words.
God is Good.
@@giancarloguillen6252 keep going!
@@giancarloguillen6252 Keep up bro and keep going.
Most likely because you haven’t read Quran yet.
How do you believe in the Creator, when the Creator already existed before your beliefs?
Science looks for Empirical Evidence.
The only things is, we live in Empirical Evidence.
A good traveler has no fixed plans
and is not intent upon arriving.
A good artist lets his intuition
lead him wherever it wants.
A good scientist has freed himself of concepts
and keeps his mind open to what is.
Thus the Master is available to all people
and doesn't reject anyone.
He is ready to use all situations
and doesn't waste anything.
This is called embodying the light.
What is a good man but a bad man's teacher?
What is a bad man but a good man's job?
If you don't understand this, you will get lost,
however intelligent you are.
It is the great secret.
Did you write this yourself? It is so rich in meaning like a product of years of meditation. God bless you real good bro
@@restartnaija8087
Where it starts from here,
A good traveler has no fixed plans
and is not intent upon arriving.
That is the TaoTeChing
These few religiously-inspired minutes have more profound wisdom and life-changing advise than hours of anti-theistic drivel.
What about this was profound or wise? I'm really curious to hear.
@@pianoslayer2516 only a moron can watch this and take nothing away.
Seth Frisby You didn't give me an actual answer. I'd like to hear you put it in your own words. Clearly, you value Mr. Peterson's words. I've watched many of his videos and debates and noticed that he never insults people, even those with whom he disagrees. How will it help you spread your argument or case if you insult people instead of explaining your case?
@@pianoslayer2516 How about you work it out yourself bucko
thecsslife That sounds fairly evasive. One of the reasons I'm asking the question is because I want to hear if anyone can make a good case for this video being so profound. I actually don't think it's particularly profound at all and I've yet to hear anyone be able to argue otherwise effectively.
“There are rules, and if you break them... God help you” what a way to end.
Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
Ecclesiastes 8:11
This should have way more than 79K views. So insightful.
Clifton614 X I very much disagree
Yeah, I think he's way off. It's very vague as well.
Break the universal laws.. You WILL reap what you sow...
robert Darren Neilson everyone has though..
You know the truth and the truth will set you free
A girl cheats on a guy that loved her then breaks up with him to cover up what she did. 2 years later that girl has gone mentally insane and is unlovable emotional wreck because she got used and cheated on by the guy she left him for .
I've literally seen this happen .
This is an example of never getting away with it .. Mr Peterson has logically stumbled across this in his line of work .
And it's made him realise the fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom .
But the end is receiving the Holy Ghost and being sealed into the kingdom (Ephesians 4v30)(*AT THIS POINT YOU'RE NO LONGER A SINNER*)
Mr Peterson is at the beginning and that's his veiwpoint he is explaining here.
*Grace*
However for those trying to understand Grace , sin is unbelief . As in not believing Jesus Christ died for your sins. When God sees that you do believe he gives you the Holy Ghost and dwells in you . You become a sinner saved by grace. You will still sin ( mistakes) but the blood of Jesus Christ attones for that sin . Hence why the bible says he that is born of God cannot sin.
To be saved you must accept in your heart that Jesus Christ came down on earth walked , lived , eat here on thus very earth . And died for your sins. And his blood is the atonement God sees for your sins.
I’ve experienced this! I met my first girlfriend when I was 16 and we split when I was 21, long story short I worked very hard for things to work out. After I had sent her a long paragraph it turned out that she wasn’t taking the time to think, she already had another boyfriend. I got upset and this is what happened. She laughed at me, she told me that he is so perfect and that he is 100 times better than me, that he had changed her so much for the better, how he takes her out and buys her things, and that she didn’t think about me and wished she ended our relationship much earlier (I ended it but changed my mind). I was very upset and suicidal and for the first time in my life I pleaded to Jesus, I then blocked her on everything. She messaged me a few weeks later asking me if I had changed my number, I knew things went wrong and I ignored her. I spoke to her again a month later because I owed her money and then we spoke about what happened and she told me that he cheated on her and laughed about it as if she was nothing, the difference here was that I didn’t laugh at her like she laughed at me when I cried over her, and it really came back to bite her and told me that it was killing her. I’ve seen this with other people too. Jesus completely changed my life.
And was raised from the dead. Amen
Jesus Navarro Amen.
xDvxZas amen bro, how long ago was this if you don't mind me asking . I was in the exact same situation you were in a year ago . And thanks be to God I'm I a much better position now .
Llewellyn Kinnaird This was in 2017 bro, since then she’s had multiple relationships and now lives with her current boyfriend.
He said something very profound to me here.. when he mentioned the Old Testament and the commandments I got this :
The commandments are a way to live life so that internally you can be at peace and feel good while living. Hell isnt a firey pit it’s the reality you live with when you don’t follow those commandments
Totally agree. But I still believe there is a literal place named Hell.
The “rules” are meant specifically for the non-believer for simplicity sake understanding why the big 10 (actually the 613) applies to those the mis-informed of not knowing the grace of God is God, arrived in the new covenant.
Dominion was gifted to man. It’s on us. God is not your errand boy.
Once you believe and receive, soon the next step is understanding that sin consciousness has no place to practice, especially when one receives the Holy Spirit.
I’m reminded it’s none of my business how others treat me. It is my business how I treat others.
Have a great day people.
I love Doré's art. His illustrations of Dante are incredible.
If in Nietszche's view the Old Testament is a really accurate representation of the phenomenology of Being, then the New Testament is Nietszche's ubermensch.
It is a comforting thought to think that people will not get away with evil. Eventually.
God is so beautiful. getting to know god is the most higher and honorable thing ,humans can strive for in this life .
Believing in god is like believing in *santa clause*
4Sk That’s up to your concept of god , I’m not going to get into a sterile debate with you but take this short advice : If you don’t believe in god just stay humble cause you didn’t become one and don’t mock others who have faith in him ,it doesn’t make them wrong .
Peace
Can't seem to get enough of this guy!!
that's Gustave Dore's work BTW, for those interested
Mercy on us, please, from all the great forces which shape us. Shape us mercifully because our suffering has already been great.
This must be one of his best speeches. Reality shows it is true, and there is a great solace in the justice of God. A Dutch man of the resistance in WWII once said: In the end I don't accept any human law and any people. I only obey God. It is all about Him and about humanity.
Dr.Peterson is bang on. He is seeking the truth and he understands some things are absolute. We disobeyed God from the get go. And we continue to this very day. God’s rule are not negotiable. So all things we do in our life we are accountable for....so. ...time to take stock of who we are and what we hope to become. I have been a Christian since I was 14 and I still and always will make mistake. We are human. But for me I have an out. I hope you do.....
What Jordan says here is the truth. I'm almost 40 years old, and listen to me young pals, I've seen some dozens of people (including myself) try to twist things and they just break themselves against the rock. It's no game, no game... Flow with it, and you'll be just fine (and even more than fine if you're wise enough).
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Wow, that was good.
Thank you for your 4:39-short message that is deeper than any lengthy Joel Osteen sermoney!
2:15 This is exactly what Boethius concludes in his book The Consolation of Philosophy. Wicked people only seem to get away wickedness.
AWResistance/// ohhh little puppet calm down, I know you feel like punishing them, everyone has some little rascal inside, and the definition of wickedness is such a wide concept, like "let's get wickedly naked and go for a swim" LOL
Terribly powerful... One of those things you would have liked to see sooner, with the maximum attention possible..
Spiritual laws are just as real as physical laws. When we harm (either ourselves or others), we will pay the price in one way or another.
too true.
@Nelson Giles have you been living under a rock or did you just skip all your history classes?
02:41 - 03:37 - You get away with nothing. If you watch closely, it is the answer to what has gone wrong in history since the beginning - Man has always thought he can get away and have resulted wars, revolutions, carnage, betrayals, pillages. That's what I meant when I said "have you been living under a rock" to not have seen this happen every time Man bends reality (02:41 - 03:37) and thinks there will be no consequences. This consequences part is what Simone Tiu said above that laws we break (betrayals, infidelity, insincerity, justice, moderation) are just as real as physical laws (in that spiritual laws have consequences just as physical laws do)
Simone Tiu , some people actually get away with it. That's the scary part :O
@@drmonahoward5152 I don't think so. It's hard to believe in it but I can only recommend to scrape under the surface of those people who seemingly get away with anything and see what you discover. Most likely you will find that they are paying the price, no matter how much they try to cover it up.
Jordan is Brilliant...what he does is simply put a Topic out there for discussion..not really to pick a side but to make those involved see things from a neutral perspective...does it without offending anyone, which is a plus
He said that he's never seen anyone get away with anything which would infer that nobody ever gets away with anything.
That's most definitely picking a side.
@@ajaxcastle9400 Not really, I think that's in relation to Karma which everyone would have to agree comes into play at some point in ones life...it might not happen immediately but as time goes on it will eventually happen. This is not picking a side just stating the obvious
If you believe that nobody ever gets away with anything, that's your opinion.
I believe that people get away with things all the time.
There's nothing neutral about either perspective.
@Shan Neuts Just because you say it's so, doesn't make it so.
Unless you're slow.
Then you wouldn't know.
Your ass from your elbow.
As an objective engineer, this is (in my opinion) one of the best Jordan Peterson clips I've seen - and I've seen a lot.
Excellent !! Thanks for posting this.
MashAllah J. Peterson, this is great subject to talk about.
JP is a voice much needed in the world today
Thank you Mr Peterson. May the God be with You.
Thank God for your life sir.
Emm, I am sorry but
DID YOU CLEAN YOUR ROOM?!?!?!
I JUST FORGOT I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN IT AAAAAAH
That sounds like a challenge to not clean my room... *Challenge accepted*
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Agnostic, and agree
Well, it depends on how you're thinking about "getting away" with something. In some sense, you may get away with a thing, but it may affect you in ways you didn't expect or were smart enough to realize. Maybe you'll look back and put it together. So dear lord, stay honest.
Um thats exactly what he says, and in a nutshell if it did affect you later then you didn't really get away with it
Whoooo. Word! When Truth (with a capital T) is spoken and received, the heart feels and knows.
In 1962, on my knees I ask *GOD* to help me. He did.
He loves you my friend.
There is so much more to christianity than just following God and reading the word. We are entitled to spiritual blessings and abilities if we humbly believe and have unwavering faith in him. Acts ch 22 I believe, it speaks of men and women receiving dreams and visions in the end of days, and I can tell you that is 100% factual. God, Jesus, is more real and full of beauty, power, and glory, than any of us can comprehend and I have seen it firsthand. No words can describe his love and glory. Have faith because we have a God in control of everything, even when it seems there is no hope. Asking God for true wisdom from a place of humility, you better be prepared because with our fragile egos as humans it can be hard when God makes you to know good and evil, and makes you to know how not good you (we all) are. That's why he is so good though, the mercy he shew to send his Son to die a perfect being to cover our sins even though we are wretched. Repent, believe, transform, have faith. If anyone believes with his whole heart pray for a vision, and if it is meant to be you will recieve. Just have faith and patience in praying. It took two weeks of prayer for me, and I wasnt fully expecting it. God bless you all, and Jordan peterson is the man 😄
I am "born again" and am surprised how close to Christian teaching this is. Mr Peterson has my respect but of course. The difference I could bring up is that when he calls something a mistake it is called a sin in the Bible. Sin and mistake are not the same. Christ died for those sins and it had to be that way. You can only change some things ...only God has can make the big changes.
I'm amused and intrigued by how many Christians are attracted to Jordan Peterson's teaching, when his approach is really far closer to Jewish Orthodoxy than New Testament Christianity.
I think the main reason is because secular humanism, propping up science as its Fountainhead of 'knowledge', has attempted to completely throw overboard the idea of universal morality, and is encountering the consequences.
Yep! He deals with the heart..that's why the Pharisee and Saducees were called hypocrites and a brood of vipers...coz the only cleaned the outside of the cup while the inside was dirty...
VERY well said the horror calamity what I have been throw thank the lord the fear of god is the beginning of knowledge amen 🙏🙏
His lectures are the epitome of real education
Everything he said was from the Bible. Even this clip was extracted from his series of lectures where he analyzes the Bible. Wisdom is from the LORD, fear Him.
FEAR OF GOD FOR ETERNITY IS THE TICKET OUT OF HELL
I need to get up to speed I never heard this guy before
I like this speech, I love the heading.
He who wins souls is wise
And he who rejects the wise man is truly doomed
Jordan Peterson sound better than an average pastor.. great understanding of wisdom.
“The best advice I can leave you with is: Fear God!” Heeding such advice brings you peace.
If you fear god you can't love God and if you can't love God it's not worth it. In my opinion god is real but in what shape or for I don't know. The point is when you're forced to do something then that is where things go wrong.
God shows us who he is in some shapes and forms. Many call him “Heavenly Father”,which is a good example of fear and love working together (ie. kids fearing but loving their loving parents at same time). Generally speaking...Kids aren’t forced to love or even listen to their dad, but it doesn’t go well for them if they don’t. No one is forced to love or accept God, and that’s what hell is as I understand it. Hell is basically one’s option to say “I don’t want anything to do with you”. Hope this rant helps you.
@@Mr61236 you can be forced to love god(though not effective) as the religion demands it... thing is we are humans and we want to be able to decide right ? it's like telling a kid who does not want to stop playing to stop playing and it gets mad at you... or if you tell them to do something on command more times than not they will fail because they have the pressure on them. now if you let them find their own way ( within reason) they will go at it with an entirely honest and human way that does not require one to fear hell or death or anything else! religion is full of contradictions which is probably the point of it where for some people it is enough and for others they need to go about it an entirely different way thus the contradictions are meant to show you these things.
I hear you. I just think if one really took a look in the Bible at what Jesus is about, it’s not about a bunch of rules and commands. People asked him for rules in bible to put Jesus in a box, but He was pretty vague bc it’s not really about the rules, but the heart (priorities, desires, values). He actually seems to only aggressively oppose “religious” people (that claim to know everything, but got it wrong) and is super patient and kind with the “sinners” (ie. prostitute, adulterer, tax collectors, non-religious folk). Just hope u don’t let “religion” get in the way of you being open to God. Jesus didn’t like it when religious church folk got things twisted also. We probably have a lot more in common with Jesus in that respect than we think. I think God is pretty patient about letting people make bad choices but hoping they make the right one. I know That’s how it is with me. Take care.
@@Mr61236 heh i can say this about me.. sometimes it takes 100 mistakes to notice i did something wrong then another 30-40 tries to fix the problem i made for myself though it will never be fixed completely atleast it can be mended to a point
It's good to hear a grown man say he's terrified of God. Now, I know Dr. Peterson knows God is Love and that God wants us to "fear" Him in an attitude of reverence for who He is. But I love the way he takes a stern tone and warns us about crossing the line into disobedience. It's funny when you see God's wrath on someone else, but it's not funny when His wrath is on you.
I should know: I've crossed that line enough times to know I can't get away with anything. And I've lived long enough to know that no one else gets away with anything either.
Nevertheless, it's not our "toeing the line" that saves us. We are supposed to do that and we transgress often. It's that God's Son toed the line perfectly and we are accepted because of Him. Nuf said.
You cannot separate the New Testament from the Old the Testament. 380 precise prophecies were fulfilled in the Birth or incarnation of the Messiah, Son of God, Jesus the Lord Christ, the Second Person of the Trinity.
Plus God is revealed in both the new and the old testament. The thing that changes is that we are under the new covenant and not the old through Christ Jesus.
sarah s well yes, but really we’re under both. Christ fulfilled the law(wisdom)!
Old Testament is, the New Testament prophesied and the New Testament is, the Old Testament revealed.
There is no God but ONE!
KING OF ALL KINGS. OWNER OF THE MIGHTY THROWN. CREATOR OF ALL HEAVENS AND EVERYTHING WE KNOW AND DONT KNOW. God bless. May God have us all walk the path of the righteous and enter one of the heavens. Ameen.
“No gets away with anything ever”... Jimmy Saville has entered the chat.
Dear Dr. Peterson, the BIBLE is NOT an ALLEGORY for your UNBIBLICAL WORLDVIEW! I appreciate that you love the Bible, I just wish you did for the right reasons.
What exactly do you mean? Just curious
Also, he will never see your comment here
Are u saying that he used the bible verse in non biblical content?
I am a simple person , I see Jordon Peterson I press the like button
It’s helpful to understand the solid meaning behind the term “Fear of God” In it’s best state, you see that it’s not necessarily a fear born out of trying to simply avoid some form of devine punishment. It’s more like being mindful of, or respecting God. The old term “A God fearing man” simply means: A person who acknowledges and respects the idea of a moral lawgiver, and has decided to align actions and behaviour with (non-subjective) moral law. Hahaha! It all starts with “cleaning your damn room!”
Modern society has lost the concept of God as an all powerful lawgiver.As a result it degenerates.We need the idea of God if my understanding of Peterson is correct as an antidote to chaos.Modern liberal rationalism simply doesn't work very well..
Powerful stuff buddy, wish I would've seen this 30 years ago
@ I was an angry, hate filled person.
Humanity today is not wise enough to understand this. Praise the Lord, for he is perfect and just.
I am devastatingly aware of what veering off the path will bring.Now I am.
U can't twist the fabric of reality with out having it twist back.
JBP
👍🏽👁👌🏽
Fear of the Lord is the Beggining of Wisdom Proverbs 1 7
It was indeed ominous to hear Peterson, a self professed agnostic, say in all his years of clinical psychiatry he has never once seen anyone truly "Get away" with anything.