This is why I became fascinated with Jordan Peterson in the first place. I think UA-cam threw him my way for whatever reason 6 months or a year before he blew up and appeared on all the talk shows and became a household name. I loved his lecture material, such an engaging and relatable speaker. I loved to hear him lecture in his field of expertise. I think in his interviews he's often dragged onto subjects outside that field, and although he'll offer a thoughtful and interesting answer, it's not the same.
Having parents that were both narcissistis I shut down my emotions. I am now learning about emotions. I thought I was depressed but it turned out I was really disappointed. Emotions are temporary so I have learned to wait them out - they are not permanent.
Jordan Peterson saved my life, but it's weird that I have to go back to 2017-2020 to really find videos where I truly resonate with his message - Everything lately seems to be politics and a bit of carnivore
@@ChrisJohnston-z7uno he hasn’t, it just happens that we have major world events and Peterson believes that it’s important to talk properly about these things, that’s why he explores them with brave and intelligent people in front of millions of people, that doesn’t mean “he’s lost”, it also has to do with the constant attack he’s receiving from the psychological psychopaths from Canada who want to take away his license and he’s so fed up with it
Thanks for honoring free speech. If the emotion we feel is anger ... for everyone's sake ... we had better learn to control it. Many school shootings ... and many spousal killings occurred and are still occurring because of that extremely difficult to control emotion. Leaders of countries go to war because of the anger felt when egos are "insulted." One example was when President Bush Junior (with a very flushed face) mocked Iraq's Saddam Hussein by responding ... "BRING IT ON!" “If Anger Helps You Feel in Control, No Wonder You Can't Control Your Anger!” … author … Leon F. Seltzer Ph.D. Raymond W. Novaco coined the phrase Anger Management. "We all experience anger; anger only becomes a serious concern when an individual is angry too frequently, too intensely, and for too long." ~ Raymond W. Novaco, 1984
Fully agree. In the same way, people run from darkness because they consider it bad or wrong and they MUST be in the LIGHT! Well, you won't really know the Light until you know and are aware of the Darkness, as well. Also, some orthodox religious teachings and some Spiritual teachings tell us that some emotions are wrong, sinful, weak, defective, imperfect, bad. Therefore we should not feel them or express them. Squash them down. Pray them away. Conquer them! Fight them to death. Punish them. ( and yourself). Ignore them. Dismiss them. Ask God to take them away! You can't possibly be a good person if you feel them. No wonder then, since we're attempting to live impossible realities and promised lands we'll never reach....we " struggle" with our human selves, see them as defective and imperfect to be " saved". Constantly feel we're not " good enough" or " worthy" enough and don't really heal. As long as this is how we treat our emotional selves we won't....
Stay calm, breath and know the truth is always there” You just got to want it! Once you know the truth, It cant be unknown! The mind is the battle field. People Avoid Truth because sometimes we don’t want the truth but in ways we do” Common sense says If your actions hurt those that love you the most, It’s wrong! It’s not of God! It’s desires of the heart. That is from the evil one tempting you and making you feel as if you deserve more and or better. God bless everyone watching the video and reading the comments. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I would agree with Jordan Peterson that your emotions are not only the centre of clever thinking, but it also tells yourself that something's there or not.
i cant quite figure it out where the dragon is, im going to therapy but i dont know where is it, im talking im expressing my self, dont know where should i look, what is actually the thing that is disturbing me.
Jordan says that what's behind the game he's playing is sacrificing his innate helpful conscience to become the learned harmful conscience that would survive the forces of his father's dislikes. (Rule 5) Jordan's harmful conscience covers up helpful primary emotions and actual experiences with harmful secondary emotions and projections.
Yes , had same situation and in my research learning I saw that there are no end to the possible weak or destructive wishes , npd can carry even with their children. It can be sadistic sadly.....
@@apparently_sonam sorry to hear you are going through this i try to see it as an opportunity to build knowledge about human mind and for self development, from my understanding of psychology which may be imperfect, but if you are familiar with star wars franchise? there is a familar reasoning from Yoda "fear leads to dark side" therefore i think not all but many NPDs are based on traumas and adaptations to those events i believe those are called vulnerable types?, and adaptation to society as malignant as it may be sometimes, so i trust there are many layers and nuances of narcissistic traits not being present in all of NPD people, also i think that people should talk about unconcious narcissistic traits as well and denial of those , we could call it NPD shadow based on Jungs teachings. Because to be honest i even in my own head recognize some traits of vulnerability based arrogance and thinking i m above those below me in some hierarchies. So its interesting to observe these traits in others and in myself and figure out what the hell is really going on and based on that try to integrate this shadow and replace it with something more pure. i m working on it and i can see improvements already i m aware of these thought patterns and practicing seeing all people as equal while still trying to excell as much as i can in all ways that matter to my own goals.
@@apparently_sonam Yes i think my father saw my siblings and me as competition , beat us mentally and physically eversince we developed thinking ability and programmed himself as a god in our eyes whle denigrating us to level of worthless brats any chance he got, my older brother is golden child he developed codependnt psychosis, i developed psychosis as well as well as vulnerable npd traits myself i guess out of all abuse using it as a coping mechanism, my twin brother is another scapegoat but he is the most INdependent of all of us and totally ignores fathers opinion of him. Anyway, im working every day to get rid of all the crappy programming installed in my mind.
You’re still going to have emotions after rectifying anything. That’s normal. That’s the whole point. Why? Because xyz. What’s left to unpack? “Temet Nosce”
There's no clear description. That means no clear definition of what an emotion is. Is it a feeling ???? A sensation ???? A stream of thoughts ???? Who knows ??? Psychologists and others who casually bandy about fancy words and other technical terms often assume everyone is on the same page. Not so. And it's kind of obvious it's difficult to ignore such "emotions." After a clear description of what it is . . . the next step would be how to deal with it. Personally i would like to tell mind doctors to . . . PYSS OFF. Except JP of course. He's kinda easy to make fun of. haha . . . lobsters and all that room cleaning.
Wdym who knows, there are pretty clear definitions😭 Where does these definition fail to agree so drastically? (genuine question, i rlly dont get your point), or if ur joking, in which case im dumb))
@@olaikintel I didn't say the definitions disagree " Drastically." But these experts claim to be " scientists. " That means there should be no disagreement whatsoever about basic truth. And i did give several examples of how " emotions " are described. Fact is psychology and psychiatry have failed miserably to cure depression. One reason is they can't even agree on what it is. And the experts have most of us snowed. Because we are too easy on them. With few exceptions they're glorified fakers, modern witch doctors. Every literate and educated person could do as well or better. And i'm not joking. Life is hard.
@@olaikintel i just posted a reply. But the censors have either deleted it or hidden it. I wasn't joking. Most medical professionals and that includes the mind doctors have us conned . It's a business about filling their pockets with our money. Helping any individual is merely coincidental. Emergency surgery personnel are one notable exception. They earn their keep.
@@olaikintel i just posted a reply. But the censors have either deleted it or hidden it. I wasn't joking. Most medical professionals and that includes the mind doctors have us conned . It's a business about filling their pockets with our money. Helping any individual is merely coincidental. Emergency surgery personnel are one notable exception. They earn their keep.
@@olaikintel i just posted a reply. But the censors have either deleted it or hidden it. I wasn't joking. Most medical professionals and that includes the mind doctors have us conned . It's a business about filling their pockets with our money. Helping any individual is merely coincidental. Emergency surgery personnel are one notable exception. They earn their keep.
@@pcall1975 Jesus Said we would hate people..even members of our own family. I was married to a narcissist..who made my life Hell. He Knew Everything..like JP. Sorry!
I would rather listen to whatever else JP said at the end of the video than the commentary voice
Exactly. That moment in the video is also so relevant, I wish we had the full video somewhere. Who cares about the lame voice over.
all of this lectures are in his channel, go to the lectures list and look for the 2017(? lectures i think
Just think for yourself bro
For real. WTF man
Totally. It's like some high school book report repeating what they read out of an encyclopedia via bot voice.
This is why I became fascinated with Jordan Peterson in the first place. I think UA-cam threw him my way for whatever reason 6 months or a year before he blew up and appeared on all the talk shows and became a household name.
I loved his lecture material, such an engaging and relatable speaker. I loved to hear him lecture in his field of expertise. I think in his interviews he's often dragged onto subjects outside that field, and although he'll offer a thoughtful and interesting answer, it's not the same.
Everything that makes you anxious and upset is the same as every other thing that's ever made you upset. These are the things you've never dealt with.
Having parents that were both narcissistis I shut down my emotions. I am now learning about emotions. I thought I was depressed but it turned out I was really disappointed. Emotions are temporary so I have learned to wait them out - they are not permanent.
You are right they are temporary however, you never forget the deed that was or wasn't done. So when the memory pops up again so do the emotions.
My mum was a huge narcissist and it took me until my late thirties to learn this. I think we are the lucky ones who get to “do the work”. Go well ❤️🩹
Oh yes. Also, you probably shut down your emotions also because narcs dont allow for normal emotions.... they shame emotions....
@@caleuxx9108 the one I was married to would try to shame me when I would get excited about something.
To me this is Peterson at his best.
Jordan Peterson saved my life, but it's weird that I have to go back to 2017-2020 to really find videos where I truly resonate with his message - Everything lately seems to be politics and a bit of carnivore
I think Jordan Peterson has lost his way.
Right, he's become a parody of himself. I think he just lost sight of things. Happens in a lot of facets of life, enjoy them while they last.
He talks a lot about the psychology in religion, there's so much there that helps
@@ChrisJohnston-z7uno he hasn’t, it just happens that we have major world events and Peterson believes that it’s important to talk properly about these things, that’s why he explores them with brave and intelligent people in front of millions of people, that doesn’t mean “he’s lost”, it also has to do with the constant attack he’s receiving from the psychological psychopaths from Canada who want to take away his license and he’s so fed up with it
@@John-zh1udNo. Have you heard what he’s doing lately and that he published a new book?
Thanks for honoring free speech.
If the emotion we feel is anger ... for everyone's sake ... we had better learn to control it.
Many school shootings ... and many spousal killings occurred and are still occurring because of that extremely difficult to control emotion.
Leaders of countries go to war because of the anger felt when egos are "insulted." One example was when President Bush Junior (with a very flushed face) mocked Iraq's Saddam Hussein by responding ... "BRING IT ON!"
“If Anger Helps You Feel in Control, No Wonder You Can't Control Your Anger!” … author … Leon F. Seltzer Ph.D.
Raymond W. Novaco coined the phrase Anger Management. "We all experience anger; anger only becomes a serious concern when an individual is angry too frequently, too intensely, and for too long." ~ Raymond W. Novaco, 1984
Fully agree. In the same way, people run from darkness because they consider it bad or wrong and they MUST be in the LIGHT! Well, you won't really know the Light until you know and are aware of the Darkness, as well. Also, some orthodox religious teachings and some Spiritual teachings tell us that some emotions are wrong, sinful, weak, defective, imperfect, bad. Therefore we should not feel them or express them. Squash them down. Pray them away. Conquer them! Fight them to death. Punish them. ( and yourself). Ignore them. Dismiss them. Ask God to take them away! You can't possibly be a good person if you feel them. No wonder then, since we're attempting to live impossible realities and promised lands we'll never reach....we " struggle" with our human selves, see them as defective and imperfect to be
" saved". Constantly feel we're not
" good enough" or " worthy" enough
and don't really heal. As long as this is how we treat our emotional selves we won't....
That's true and beautifully put 👏 👌.
Thanks for sharing ✅️ 👍
The wisdom in this… sweet goodness.
Stay calm, breath and know the truth is always there” You just got to want it! Once you know the truth, It cant be unknown! The mind is the battle field. People Avoid Truth because sometimes we don’t want the truth but in ways we do” Common sense says If your actions hurt those that love you the most, It’s wrong! It’s not of God! It’s desires of the heart. That is from the evil one tempting you and making you feel as if you deserve more and or better. God bless everyone watching the video and reading the comments. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Absolutely brilliant
All I can learn from this video and many of life tribulation is " Never be dependant upon anything in this world ".
I would agree with Jordan Peterson that your emotions are not only the centre of clever thinking, but it also tells yourself that something's there or not.
Having a breakdown because of suppressed emotions and I am scared no one can help.
There is help 💔
Amazing work dr
Where can I find the whole lecture?
ua-cam.com/video/J9j-bVDrGdI/v-deo.htmlsi=o5BQTZEbELaUaSVe
Around minute 30
I spent half an hour trying to find it lol.
Thank you sir
i cant quite figure it out where the dragon is, im going to therapy but i dont know where is it, im talking im expressing my self, dont know where should i look, what is actually the thing that is disturbing me.
If you cannot find it in your past, , , maybe it is right in front of you.
If you cannot find it in your past,,,, then maybe it is right in front of you.
In front of you
Sometimes the dragon is yourself. In other words - ur in need of transformation. Maybe?
Seek the demon, hope it's a dragon. Amateur.
4:54 is so real
Jordan says that what's behind the game he's playing is sacrificing his innate helpful conscience to become the learned harmful conscience that would survive the forces of his father's dislikes. (Rule 5)
Jordan's harmful conscience covers up helpful primary emotions and actual experiences with harmful secondary emotions and projections.
Dr.Peterson is father i never had, i mean i had a father NPD who never told me these truths but he knew them, i wonder if my father wanted me weak.
Yes , had same situation and in my research learning I saw that there are no end to the possible weak or destructive wishes , npd can carry even with their children. It can be sadistic sadly.....
@@apparently_sonam sorry to hear you are going through this i try to see it as an opportunity to build knowledge about human mind and for self development, from my understanding of psychology which may be imperfect, but if you are familiar with star wars franchise? there is a familar reasoning from Yoda "fear leads to dark side" therefore i think not all but many NPDs are based on traumas and adaptations to those events i believe those are called vulnerable types?, and adaptation to society as malignant as it may be sometimes, so i trust there are many layers and nuances of narcissistic traits not being present in all of NPD people, also i think that people should talk about unconcious narcissistic traits as well and denial of those , we could call it NPD shadow based on Jungs teachings. Because to be honest i even in my own head recognize some traits of vulnerability based arrogance and thinking i m above those below me in some hierarchies. So its interesting to observe these traits in others and in myself and figure out what the hell is really going on and based on that try to integrate this shadow and replace it with something more pure. i m working on it and i can see improvements already i m aware of these thought patterns and practicing seeing all people as equal while still trying to excell as much as i can in all ways that matter to my own goals.
@@apparently_sonam Yes i think my father saw my siblings and me as competition , beat us mentally and physically eversince we developed thinking ability and programmed himself as a god in our eyes whle denigrating us to level of worthless brats any chance he got, my older brother is golden child he developed codependnt psychosis, i developed psychosis as well as well as vulnerable npd traits myself i guess out of all abuse using it as a coping mechanism, my twin brother is another scapegoat but he is the most INdependent of all of us and totally ignores fathers opinion of him. Anyway, im working every day to get rid of all the crappy programming installed in my mind.
I'm annoyed by the background music. Is the message not emotional enough without it?
Omg...me to...trying to find the same youtube video without backcround music..
You’re still going to have emotions after rectifying anything. That’s normal. That’s the whole point. Why? Because xyz. What’s left to unpack?
“Temet Nosce”
3:50
Love the lecture
The door to “Room 101” is not a good door to open.
Freudian slip..... All the stuff you have never dealt with..... come out..... Free association....
My family can’t stand me oh well. I got all As so who was stupid lol
careful poo post of a comment section incoming. enjoy the video not the confusion
Thanks ♥️ 😊
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There's no clear description. That means no clear definition of what an emotion is. Is it a feeling ???? A sensation ???? A stream of thoughts ???? Who knows ??? Psychologists and others who casually bandy about fancy words and other technical terms often assume everyone is on the same page. Not so. And it's kind of obvious it's difficult to ignore such "emotions." After a clear description of what it is . . . the next step would be how to deal with it. Personally i would like to tell mind doctors to . . . PYSS OFF. Except JP of course. He's kinda easy to make fun of. haha . . . lobsters and all that room cleaning.
Wdym who knows, there are pretty clear definitions😭 Where does these definition fail to agree so drastically? (genuine question, i rlly dont get your point), or if ur joking, in which case im dumb))
@@olaikintel I didn't say the definitions disagree " Drastically." But these experts claim to be " scientists. " That means there should be no disagreement whatsoever about basic truth. And i did give several examples of how " emotions " are described. Fact is psychology and psychiatry have failed miserably to cure depression. One reason is they can't even agree on what it is. And the experts have most of us snowed. Because we are too easy on them. With few exceptions they're glorified fakers, modern witch doctors. Every literate and educated person could do as well or better. And i'm not joking. Life is hard.
@@olaikintel i just posted a reply. But the censors have either deleted it or hidden it. I wasn't joking. Most medical professionals and that includes the mind doctors have us conned . It's a business about filling their pockets with our money. Helping any individual is merely coincidental. Emergency surgery personnel are one notable exception. They earn their keep.
@@olaikintel i just posted a reply. But the censors have either deleted it or hidden it. I wasn't joking. Most medical professionals and that includes the mind doctors have us conned . It's a business about filling their pockets with our money. Helping any individual is merely coincidental. Emergency surgery personnel are one notable exception. They earn their keep.
@@olaikintel i just posted a reply. But the censors have either deleted it or hidden it. I wasn't joking. Most medical professionals and that includes the mind doctors have us conned . It's a business about filling their pockets with our money. Helping any individual is merely coincidental. Emergency surgery personnel are one notable exception. They earn their keep.
This guy is a speaker? He can not explain himself very well.
If you don’t understand it just say so.
I Hate Jordan Peterson and it Feels So Good 😊❤
Why?
Can'f stand to look into yourself yourself, can you?
@@winterbuds
On the contrary. I Love me and Jesus Loves me..All that I need! If you love JP..fine with me but I am True to myself.
You say you believe in Jesus yet hate someone? And then why would you even share that? To show how confused you are?
@@pcall1975
Jesus Said we would hate people..even members of our own family. I was married to a narcissist..who made my life Hell. He Knew Everything..like JP. Sorry!