Worst MMO Ever? - Lucent Heart

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  • @visceral8293
    @visceral8293 3 роки тому +2942

    "The meta is making out with someone before charging into battle" is one of the most anime things I've ever heard

    • @ericb3157
      @ericb3157 3 роки тому +133

      reminds me of an old Star Wars themed game i read about where watching someone Dance would restore your health...and Dancing was a SKILL, which counted toward the limited number of skills any one character could learn!
      other non-combat skills included weapon crafting. it had a pretty-well made player-run economy...
      BUT the game was effectively ruined by the inclusion of Jedi characters.
      after that, EVERYONE wanted to be a Jedi, and since Jedi don't use blasters, all the weapon crafters went out of business, and so on.

    • @dontkickmychick6076
      @dontkickmychick6076 2 роки тому +48

      @@ericb3157 capitalism moment

    • @spoofsrocks13
      @spoofsrocks13 2 роки тому +14

      Ancient Greece moment.

    • @Fiercesoulking
      @Fiercesoulking 2 роки тому +5

      Well I could understand if somebody wanted to make the world better with this game but not with this cash shop. By the way Runes of Magic had when married some other char also very useful buffs xD

    • @Christian-gr3gu
      @Christian-gr3gu 2 роки тому +13

      the power of love is just a more powerful version of the power of friendship

  • @Alresu
    @Alresu 2 роки тому +1706

    Josh: "If you need more room to display your stuff, just use more room! You've got the room!"
    Also Josh: "I am still determined to list every Patreon supporter on one slide."

    • @imasspeons
      @imasspeons 2 роки тому +106

      This is funnier than it should have been. Well done.

    • @ashleyreynolds1991
      @ashleyreynolds1991 2 роки тому +39

      bruuuhhhh, damn lol ... this made me smile! He is right, Josh!

    • @BasvandenBerg
      @BasvandenBerg 2 роки тому +66

      Well... he does use the full screen space :P

    • @AmaryInkawult
      @AmaryInkawult Рік тому +6

      Still is to this day, and I need a microscope to read the patron names

    • @Alresu
      @Alresu Рік тому +2

      @@AmaryInkawult Not sure, how you get the second monitor in a slide, but colour me impressed!

  • @KaguyaHimex
    @KaguyaHimex 3 роки тому +2833

    This entire series is basically "triggering your long-buried memories of banner ads you saw on deviantart in 2007"

    • @MerlinCross13
      @MerlinCross13 3 роки тому +73

      Yeah. The memories of weird mmo/card game banners on old art/comic sites are coming back.

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 3 роки тому +20

      Good times i always wondered what those games where like but i had limited time so i only played games that i knew where good.

    • @MerlinCross13
      @MerlinCross13 3 роки тому +20

      @@belstar1128 The only 3 I really tried were... Urban Rivals, Eredan and Pocket Nightmares...,
      Eredan died, Pocket Nightmares rebranded(Due to Pocket Monsters/Pokemon) dunno what's it doing anymore, and Urban Rivals is.... still alive WAT?
      But yeah several pages of Mabonogi ads along with those three spring to mind.

    • @CYPH3RsD0M41N
      @CYPH3RsD0M41N 3 роки тому +26

      Not just DeviantArt! A lot of Flash Games websites had those kind of ads plastered all around them.

    • @MerlinCross13
      @MerlinCross13 3 роки тому +5

      @@CYPH3RsD0M41N I saw Pocket Nightmare on Armor Games years ago. And Newgrounds always had weird and wild game ads.

  • @ayajade6683
    @ayajade6683 3 роки тому +596

    They all share a sound designer because it's one held captive in a shared warehouse

    • @DarthZ01
      @DarthZ01 3 роки тому +65

      It's just some dude handcuffed to a chair with a computer from the 90s loaded with thousands of stock sound effects and he just has to drag-and-drop them onto crappy mmos all day

    • @adventurepeaks4514
      @adventurepeaks4514 3 роки тому +43

      Maybe if we put some of these awful audio clips into a audio spectrogram it wil spell out "help me"

    • @Phantom_Zer0
      @Phantom_Zer0 3 роки тому +2

      I had the same dark though, hahaha. .. maybe it's true.

    • @Phantom_Zer0
      @Phantom_Zer0 3 роки тому +5

      @@adventurepeaks4514 - it will say "pay now fifty dolah, yes?"

    • @desther7975
      @desther7975 3 роки тому +4

      I figure they don't even have a dedicated sound designer. Something tells me these games are pieced together from preexisting bits of software and audio libraries; i.e., asset flips.

  • @Goodmanperson55
    @Goodmanperson55 3 роки тому +1080

    I think a lot of the interface problems probably originate from how they were designed around Asian glyphs (Japanese, Chinese, Korean) and the devs/localisers are too lazy to resize UI assets to accommodate typically longer English words.

    • @Fe7Ace
      @Fe7Ace 3 роки тому +138

      Stuff being tiny and shoved too hard around the edges usually also caused when the UI is designed for example only with 1080p resolution in mind, and old mate here might be playing with a 2k or 4k monitor? Most old games would look like this at 4k because devs were just like "yeah 1080p is all that matters let's just base our whole UI on pixel dimensions"

    • @rolfs2165
      @rolfs2165 3 роки тому +118

      @@Fe7Ace If it's from 2010, it's more like designed with 1024*768 in mind. Maybe 1280*720, if you're lucky. Just look at the window size of the game before he makes it full screen.

    • @frogge8495
      @frogge8495 3 роки тому +21

      I dont know why but the way you used 'glyphs' made me chuckle

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 3 роки тому +7

      @@Fe7Ace 1080p more like 480.

    • @sucyshi
      @sucyshi 2 роки тому +16

      It's not just resizing needed. The UI is designed to look information dense because Chinese characters (which have affected those three languages and countries greatly) are information dense so that's what's aesthetically pleasing to them, unlike how the west tends to like spacing and minimalism.

  • @loydtheliar5659
    @loydtheliar5659 3 роки тому +1346

    Josh i cant stress this enough, watching most of the "Worst MMO Ever?" series, you have become one of my favorite youtubers, idk just wanted to say that somewhere. Feels like watching a big brother rant about online games, which i love!

    • @xionkale3688
      @xionkale3688 2 роки тому +1

      who is a hypocrite that does paid advertisement for BS like Perfect World Mobile and calls out a decade old game "WOrsT mMO eVeR"...

    • @loydtheliar5659
      @loydtheliar5659 2 роки тому +74

      @@xionkale3688 at that point in time he had 8k subs and was working a regular job. He's now able to turn down ads and stuff like that without breaking the bank. It's not hypocritical, it's from before he became reliant on being credible. Also the "worst mmo ever" series explicitly is not calling these MMOs the worst of the worst, but is rather a search through all the somewhat niche mmos to find the worst one. He's had many videos where he came out of the game with a very positive experience.

    • @uuu12343
      @uuu12343 2 роки тому +19

      @@xionkale3688
      You really pulled out a decade long topic and used that huh...?

    • @xionkale3688
      @xionkale3688 2 роки тому +2

      @@uuu12343 thats Decade long? cause i remember seeing that ad about a week ago so idek or care, but my Hypocricy case stays

    • @sna1466
      @sna1466 2 роки тому +5

      @@xionkale3688 lol so you just don't care about the time or place or where you are or what you're doing? crazy

  • @Drawesometoons
    @Drawesometoons 3 роки тому +523

    Thats no waterfall noise, its the sound effect for people flushing their money down the toilet in that cash shop

    • @hunger4wonder
      @hunger4wonder 3 роки тому

      Ah! Indeed!

    • @YRahmeier
      @YRahmeier 3 роки тому +1

      i read "scuba" points the first time.

    • @wdf70
      @wdf70 3 роки тому +5

      I like to think it's all the ladies reacting to Josh's presence in their game. ;)

    • @Firepulser
      @Firepulser Рік тому

      i know this is a joke but really it was just the waterfalls on the wall behind him.
      Honestly, JSH is so dense sometimes.

  • @lockhart7813
    @lockhart7813 2 роки тому +152

    One of my oldest friends played this game like a second life for years and years, becoming a well known community member, moderator, leader of several guilds, several maxed out characters, sought after bachelor, etc; Eventually, right before the game died, he sold his account for thousands. This game is forever burned into my brain due to the years spent sitting next to him while playing my own stuff. Wild times, blast from the past.

    • @MistressIzayoi
      @MistressIzayoi 2 роки тому +6

      lmao what was his IGN cause i also played back then LMFAO

    • @pyroflare7774
      @pyroflare7774 Рік тому +18

      ​@@MistressIzayoiyou got ignored

  • @Sleepless.Nights
    @Sleepless.Nights 3 роки тому +432

    Joined the primere at "didn't even step on my head, out of 10" and my expectations are high

  • @LumyTheQueen
    @LumyTheQueen 3 роки тому +628

    I played Lucent Heart back when it was originally made and the biggest appeal was the socialising and the group dancing, because it was the only innovation in the game. And yeah, the group dancing was seriously fun and a nice way to make online friends while listening to cheesy pop music.

    • @DaMy2345
      @DaMy2345 3 роки тому +23

      I played it until maybe 2 years ago from time to time. I always thought it was a terrible game but ended up going back to it to goof around and find new friends lol. Sad how they let it die, making custom dances and joining dance events was pretty fun.

    • @TiberianFiend
      @TiberianFiend 3 роки тому +54

      By "dancing," do you mean stepping on guys' heads while they call you "queen"?

    • @grandbean9031
      @grandbean9031 3 роки тому +81

      @@TiberianFiend wait that's not what dancing is? I have been going to "dancing" lessons for years now!

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 3 роки тому +7

      Sounds like something i would make fun of.

    • @1sennacherib
      @1sennacherib 3 роки тому +4

      Remember once upon a time, group dancing in the original Guild Wars was a big thing too in Lion's Arch.

  • @Mushezable
    @Mushezable 3 роки тому +354

    I don't care how Non-nutritious White Bread is, I will call it my queen and let it step on me.

    • @doubtful_seer
      @doubtful_seer 3 роки тому +34

      I can’t figure out if this is a reference the the white bread art guy or not and I hate myself for it

    • @metrotider5371
      @metrotider5371 3 роки тому +45

      @@doubtful_seer now draw her buying wonderbread

    • @grandbean9031
      @grandbean9031 3 роки тому +9

      Now I want an 18+ art of bread stepping on someone's head

    • @errortryagainlater4240
      @errortryagainlater4240 3 роки тому +10

      @@metrotider5371 *now draw her buying wonderbread and demolishing a rainforest* 🥵

  • @Ponifex
    @Ponifex 3 роки тому +389

    3:10 Bit late to comment on this, but several ancient KMMOs tend to implement some sort of password/PIN requirement when accessing your storage/inventory/whatever, to prevent tampering from other players when stepping afk in a PC bang.
    These sorts of preventative measures are almost always entirely unnecessary for the vast majority of an NA/EU playerbase, since PC cafes/bangs aren't anywhere near as popular or commonplace in those regions, yet they're often included when the game gets imported overseas due to sheer laziness from the publisher.
    (For example, the current-day Global client for Maplestory _still_ requires a PIN input every time you select a character, access your storage, adjust your V-Matrix, buy/sell Meso via the Meso Market, etc.)
    So yes, the devs of Lucent Heart actually thought people would be playing this thing out in public. Amazing.

    • @lamlelamatsiliza8550
      @lamlelamatsiliza8550 2 роки тому +22

      I still wouldn't play this on my own home.

    • @dustydew
      @dustydew 2 роки тому +14

      Did not know this! Thanks, very informative

    • @ashleyreynolds1991
      @ashleyreynolds1991 2 роки тому +2

      Learn something new every day!

    • @ElysetheEevee
      @ElysetheEevee 2 роки тому +5

      @@lamlelamatsiliza8550
      Don't shit where you sleep/eat, eh?

    • @Nightweaver1
      @Nightweaver1 2 роки тому +3

      Literally zero people in the US use internet cafes anymore. I'm pretty sure those disappeared sometime in the early 2000s.

  • @radiantray5231
    @radiantray5231 3 роки тому +896

    At first I was like: "I thought this game shut down already." Then you mentioned Suba Games and it all makes sense. I played this game for about 10 mins one time and I uninstalled it because of how bad it was. It still holds the record for the fastest I ever quit a mmorpg to this day. It's is interesting to see this game's combat systems, it's very reminiscent of mmorpgs of it's time.

    • @TheTankbus
      @TheTankbus 3 роки тому +46

      I put too much time into this game during beta. Maybe like 6 hours or more a day for a week. To the point I had headaches. After that week I asked wtf I was doing and quit.
      Guess I was desperate for something over a decade ago with a shit computer and a summer full of nothing

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 роки тому +3

      Not funny anymore.
      Kinda disgusting, tbh.
      Am i too harsh? I dont think so.

    • @bernkastel7438
      @bernkastel7438 3 роки тому +34

      @@slevinchannel7589 What are you even going on about? I’m genuinely confused.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 роки тому +3

      @@bernkastel7438 This Video here??
      Hello?

    • @nikirol4051
      @nikirol4051 3 роки тому +13

      @@slevinchannel7589 Are you saying that the video is not funny?
      Are you saying that this comment is not funny?
      What is disgusting about any of this?

  • @deliriouszora
    @deliriouszora 3 роки тому +167

    From my experience, anything that try to add a dating like aspects while also trying to pull in a kid player base, usually have a lot of nasty people that use it.

  • @defaulted9485
    @defaulted9485 3 роки тому +424

    Lucent Heart : "Hey, can I copy your Date Dungeon?"
    Luna Online Reborn : "Sure but please change a bit so it doesn't look obvious."

    • @adm102401
      @adm102401 3 роки тому +6

      It be like that

    • @datcrazy1038
      @datcrazy1038 3 роки тому +12

      Luna online(2009) was before Lucent Heart(2016). Luna Online Reborn is just an update of Luna Online.

    • @webserververse5749
      @webserververse5749 3 роки тому +17

      @@datcrazy1038 lucent Heart has had 3 re-releases and is way older than 2016. Still in Open Beta BTW

    • @nyanny9729
      @nyanny9729 3 роки тому +7

      Actually, Lucent Heart was released in 2008. Not 2016, that was only the year it was added to Steam.

    • @nyanny9729
      @nyanny9729 3 роки тому +4

      At the time, the MMOs were all pretty much similar to each other. Wouldn't say they copied from one another at all.

  • @kingscrump
    @kingscrump 2 роки тому +328

    I hear the sunken cost fallacy, but what about the sunken social fallacy? The fact that you don’t want to give up on a crap game because the relationships you build are strong and varied.

    • @k_taaro
      @k_taaro 2 роки тому +27

      I think that's called peer pressure

    • @Neuroshimi
      @Neuroshimi 2 роки тому +57

      That's also sunken cost. Just not monetary but social.

    • @RariettyC
      @RariettyC 2 роки тому +25

      I feel like that's a lot less of an issue now than it was when this game was new, as most people who play MMOs nowadays can easily just use Discord to connect outside the game rather than relying on in-game social features

    • @imasspeons
      @imasspeons 2 роки тому +4

      I believe it's "sunk-cost fallacy".

    • @ashleyreynolds1991
      @ashleyreynolds1991 2 роки тому +2

      I get that, but I mean you guys could all move to another, better game... or write each other letters (yes, I do know that this most likely will show you how old I really am ;p) ... you guys could pretty much find another way to keep those friendships alive... but yeah, no I get what you mean!

  • @kurovah5475
    @kurovah5475 3 роки тому +229

    "Who needs magic when you have the power of *gun*"
    lmao

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 3 роки тому +6

      well we have anime characters who can destroy bullets and move faster than bullets or they are invincible to bullets so really........

    • @DoctorSpacebar
      @DoctorSpacebar 2 роки тому +6

      @@Cecilia-ky3uw That's when you add more gun. And if that don't work, add even more gun.

    • @SpecShadow
      @SpecShadow Рік тому

      reminds me old Ross Scott (of Freeman's Mind fame) comparing guns to magic

  • @SomeMortyDude
    @SomeMortyDude 3 роки тому +892

    Josh: mocks glass being in the blacksmithing
    Me playing skyrim: *cries in glass weapons*

    • @TonyMurchisonArt
      @TonyMurchisonArt 3 роки тому +213

      'Glass' in the Elder Scrolls is apparently just a colloquial name for Malachite. It's not actually supposed to be glass.

    • @PhoenixAriel
      @PhoenixAriel 3 роки тому

      @no or maybe yes i need to replay that game

    • @ammagon4519
      @ammagon4519 3 роки тому +19

      @no or maybe yes but Morrowind glasses aren't actual glass as well? I do read somewhere that they mostly grow on volcanic or hot areas, but again still aren't glass.

    • @pikapower_kirby
      @pikapower_kirby 3 роки тому +13

      Not an MMO but Fire Emblem has glass weapons too.

    • @heatherharrison264
      @heatherharrison264 3 роки тому +45

      Many of the games in the Ultima series have glass swords. They are single use magical weapons; the general principle is that the sword hits extremely hard, doing enough damage for a one shot kill on all but the toughest enemies, but it shatters into worthless bits after doing its grim duty. They are rare, and if available for purchase in shops, very expensive. This naturally caused me to hoard them and seldom if ever use them for their intended purpose. At high level, there are spells that are similarly powerful and act from a distance, so the glass swords tend not to be all that necessary anyway once the party is strong enough to go to the bad places where the big, mean monsters are found.

  • @skyesfury8511
    @skyesfury8511 3 роки тому +206

    There's a "hand holding" emote?! How is this allowed? Anywhere?! LEWD!!!

    • @ericb3157
      @ericb3157 3 роки тому +38

      reminds me of "perfect world", where it's possible for any male character to PICK UP any female character and carry her around!
      the female character DOES have to agree to it, fortunately.

    • @raven75257
      @raven75257 2 роки тому +5

      @@ericb3157 I dunno, this seems weirdly wholesome to me

    • @franciscopereira5760
      @franciscopereira5760 2 роки тому +3

      @@ericb3157 unfortunately

    • @yuurina5092
      @yuurina5092 Рік тому +3

      @@ericb3157 that is weirdly wholesome

  • @crossveilkyt
    @crossveilkyt 3 роки тому +398

    AHHH HE SAID IT! HE SAID THE THING ABOUT the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV that has a free trial, and includes the entirety of A Realm Reborn AND the award-winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 with no restrictions on playtime!

    • @sora8711
      @sora8711 3 роки тому +17

      It's a pretty cringe circlejerk.

    • @jhalilxvii
      @jhalilxvii 3 роки тому +6

      Impossible.

    • @kelnhide
      @kelnhide 3 роки тому +56

      @@sora8711 it's a meme

    • @sora8711
      @sora8711 3 роки тому +10

      @@kelnhide A meme that some people unironically think isn't and people are just literal walking talking billboards for the game.

    • @Frankenllama
      @Frankenllama 3 роки тому +59

      @@sora8711 you must be fun at parties.

  • @ElijahG98
    @ElijahG98 3 роки тому +137

    Pretty upset that I didn't get to see the "step on me emote".

    • @leokommadant938
      @leokommadant938 3 роки тому +1

      yeah.. then no one is playing it to have that kind of emote :/
      i felt like something interesting for social interaction lol.

  • @Alikaoz
    @Alikaoz 3 роки тому +39

    As someone with a younger sister, yes. She likes these things and so do her friends, so there's a market for games that allow for (E)RP.

  • @itsprivate3061
    @itsprivate3061 3 роки тому +66

    a morpg where i can fulfill my daily depraved quota of getting stepped on? GOTY

  • @leolor9328
    @leolor9328 3 роки тому +290

    Ahh yes 12 year old me's favorite type of game, a dating sim disguised as an mmo

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 роки тому +5

      Its fluffed up.

    • @HaplessOne
      @HaplessOne 3 роки тому +53

      Lmao this is when you could go into RuneScape and see dudes sitting there like "looking for gf" 😂

    • @jamaluddinkhalifa8371
      @jamaluddinkhalifa8371 3 роки тому +35

      @@HaplessOne *buying gf, 10gp

    • @finallychangedmyname3614
      @finallychangedmyname3614 3 роки тому +29

      @@jamaluddinkhalifa8371 they do be expensive

    • @damienthonk1506
      @damienthonk1506 3 роки тому +5

      @@slevinchannel7589 *Flyffed up. I really hope someone gets my joke lol

  • @nebufabu
    @nebufabu 3 роки тому +108

    "i would play the crap out of an MMO where you beat your opponent by summoning benches"
    City of Heroes, from beyond the shutdown: It's random junk, from pieces of statues to cars to whatever, but... Gravity control can do that.
    ADD: And then he goes on about interesting city layouts...

    • @nervsouly
      @nervsouly 3 роки тому +7

      I think you can play it again on the Homecoming servers unless they closed down. I went there to get my fond memories back but it just wasn't the same as back then, so I quit again and stopped following the news. Sometimes it's better to just keep your memories as illusion of perfection and not test the truth of your sentiment years later.

    • @ericb3157
      @ericb3157 3 роки тому +4

      reminds me of several stories where D&D players acquired magical folding/unfolding BOATS and used them as weapons...

    • @nebufabu
      @nebufabu 3 роки тому +2

      @@nervsouly Homecoming (and so on, there are multiple servers now with different forks of the leaked code ) are still, technically pirated software, pirated software is bad, m'kay... Don't use pirated software, m'kay... (Homecoming specifically asked not to record or stream any gameplay.)
      That said, City still has that energy it did back then, at least for me. Revisiting all the golden oldies (Faultline, Mercedes Sheldon, ITF...) was something I always wanted to do.

    • @TheMichigami
      @TheMichigami 3 роки тому +6

      @@nervsouly Homecoming is still alive and well and doing their own development for updates and new costume pieces, as are several others. We Have Cake, Rebirth, and several other all have their own branched variations of the game now, some servers run it as close to the "vanilla live" experience as possible, others have created new archetypes and costume pieces and powers and run customized setups with boosted xp just for the giggles of it. If you look around you can probably find a server that fits your play style and has a decent community. They're all unofficial and rogue and will forever be such despite a few people trying to talk a big game about negotiating with NcSoft to create official servers, so enjoy it while ya can (if you like there's even standalone versions to play singleplayer people have built you can find, but it loses a lot of the fun of all the madness other people bring to the game)

    • @TheMichigami
      @TheMichigami 3 роки тому +5

      speaking of interesting city layouts, whatever drunk sadist designed the rogue isles maps specifically to punish people for playing redside by getting them endlessly lost between point a and point b....

  • @Darkshadow715
    @Darkshadow715 3 роки тому +91

    Random comment not about the game: It's crazy how much that list has grown since your refusal to move from a single slide for the patreon list. It's absolutely mind blowing, to me, the amount of effort/funds people will put in to try and make someone do something. Like your content is great but it's also a genius tactic on your hand and I love to see it being used. I'm certain there's a decent sized chunk of those supporters who are just BUSTING AT THE BRIM to say they were the one that pushed you past your limits. They were the one that forced your hand. They made Josh Strife Hayes give in and do something he said he wouldn't do. Yet you strike me as a person who never relents and it keeps my interest piqued and ready to come back just to see how far it's gone. It really is just a treat for everyone. Bravo sir.
    As a side note, I also really dig the Worst MMO Ever? Series and your out of 10 ratings. Those also keep me coming back :)

    • @richardpreston7333
      @richardpreston7333 2 роки тому +6

      Binge watching this series means you get to watch Josh's patreon list expand and shrink to ridiculous proportions at the same time

  • @LikaLaruku
    @LikaLaruku 3 роки тому +112

    I wanted to recommend a Chinese browser MMO that literally plays itself to the point where it actually talks to NPCs & accepts quest without you, but for the life of me I cannot remember what it was called. It could be "Kingdom Rift" by R2Games.

    • @lyranoto6264
      @lyranoto6264 3 роки тому +16

      Oh my god, R2 games. I used to play Crystal Saga religiously on Kongregate as a kid because it was all my white MacBook could handle. Was like 2010.

    • @bernkastel7438
      @bernkastel7438 3 роки тому +1

      @@lyranoto6264 I used to play Slayaway Camp on Kongregate

    • @onomatopoeia7505
      @onomatopoeia7505 3 роки тому +37

      You mean League of Angels? Because that indeed plays itself.

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 3 роки тому +4

      Why. do. they. make. games. that. play. themselves. who. would. enjoy. that.

    • @HolyGoddessMotherAnne
      @HolyGoddessMotherAnne 2 роки тому +3

      @@belstar1128 put in a comma as christ that's nonsensical as a sentence, the people enjoying such a game are ones out there difficult to find or locate but r probably people who are like into their idle games too much.

  • @ThankYouCityOfficial
    @ThankYouCityOfficial Рік тому +19

    "As you can see I've followed the traditional death ritual of being buggered by a plant while clipping my entire top half under the ground."
    I burst out laughing, which was awkward because I was in a very quiet and full office

  • @Ithirahad
    @Ithirahad 3 роки тому +21

    Chinese and Japanese writing systems have whole syllables or words packed into one character; Korean at least combines a consonant and vowel into the space of one letter. They're both a lot more information-dense than English's janky implementation of the Roman alphabet. It's understandable that the UIs end up a bit undersized when they obviously aren't too worried about the quality of their localizations.

  • @kmdgaming6039
    @kmdgaming6039 3 роки тому +36

    The funniest part is that I would have never seen or heard of these games had I not watched your channel.
    Because my BS alarm would go off like crazy if I found them myself.

  • @grim566
    @grim566 3 роки тому +315

    so ironically this was the MMO where I met my fiance almost 10 years ago and sometimes we go back and play it.
    Edit: Did notice Josh closed the window where you pick up skills after changing to warrior and I had a chuckle when he said they don't give you skills think he may have just been rapid clicking on quests

    • @Cecilia-ky3uw
      @Cecilia-ky3uw 3 роки тому +10

      Im cringing it sounds weird

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 3 роки тому +3

      Damm i should have played this.

    • @grim566
      @grim566 3 роки тому +30

      @@belstar1128 it was one of those things where we both went. "Lol no one does this thing" turns out, we both did and its been a fun time since. Recently moved out of state and with all thats been happening. They're finally able to come visit

    • @navatheramenguy3127
      @navatheramenguy3127 3 роки тому +34

      That's.... Weird.... Wholesome but weird

    • @Sammy-S
      @Sammy-S 2 роки тому +2

      Weirdly some of my fondest mmo memories are of playing this about 10 years ago. The communities in this game used to be so good

  • @Esvald
    @Esvald 3 роки тому +38

    I remember randomly installing this while browsing mmos on steam and I lasted like a week or so. I actually got to talk to one of the town ildlers, a super chill guy who invited me to his guild and we talked about the game briefly.
    Still, the actual gameplay was so damn boring I quit a few days after.

  • @TheDeadGunslinger
    @TheDeadGunslinger 3 роки тому +90

    Who needs magic, when you have the power of gun.

    • @SwayRod836
      @SwayRod836 3 роки тому +3

      (Pow pow) No world, you put your hands up! -Dr. Zoidberg

    • @JustSkram
      @JustSkram 3 роки тому +4

      I cast GUN

    • @TomatoCarrotSoup
      @TomatoCarrotSoup 3 роки тому +8

      I interrupt your spell by casting level two Assault Weapons Ban!

    • @JustSkram
      @JustSkram 3 роки тому +6

      @@TomatoCarrotSoupYou fool, you fell for my trap. I CAST CONSEALED CARRY

    • @pixelettee
      @pixelettee 3 роки тому +2

      Wizards with Guns

  • @FhtagnCthulhu
    @FhtagnCthulhu 3 роки тому +54

    That FF meme hit me. (and yes, everyone should know that the award winning MMORPG...)

    • @michaelo5665
      @michaelo5665 3 роки тому +4

      What's ff?

    • @SchlauSchafe
      @SchlauSchafe 3 роки тому +2

      @@michaelo5665 final fantasy 14

    • @michaelo5665
      @michaelo5665 3 роки тому +4

      @@SchlauSchafe it was a joke but thank you. I truly cant bring myself to play any of the modern final fantasy games. Maybe I'll try the newest one since the protagonist doesnt look like a k pop star.

  • @Ghost_Moonz
    @Ghost_Moonz 3 роки тому +90

    Did anyone notice that he was more annoyed then usual lol

    • @Todesschleicher
      @Todesschleicher 3 роки тому +8

      I was thinking "this series might end soon, he's REALLY fed up with this crap"

  • @hiramsiqueiros9018
    @hiramsiqueiros9018 3 роки тому +158

    Plot twist : taquito bandito is the ceo of suba games.

  • @rafaelbordoni516
    @rafaelbordoni516 3 роки тому +31

    As a hobbyist developer, here is some technical insights about some points you mentioned:
    1:26 If this is 2010, they probably made the launcher to fit a 2010 monitor resolution and never updated it. I'm pretty sure the whole UI was built to fit smaller resolutions and no one bothered to update it, hence why it looks so small in-game.
    8:41 This is how view distance works, actually. They increase the fog intensity the farther the thing is to have the transition between skybox and 3D mesh to be less jarring. What was happening is that at far render distance, the game was rendering all the terrain behind the mountains, which sounds stupider but it's how stuff works if you don't optimize with care. There's this technique called occlusion culling that stop stuff that's behind other stuff from rendering. This is usually done by the engine, but given it's 2010 I doubt they do it, the models are low poly and the textures are low definition for a reason.
    What? The music cycle being broken? No idea. The sound designer is probably kept in a basement, together with the VFX artist who made those purple flames mismatched with the feet. To their credits, they might have made stuff work back at launch, but then at some point, when they updated something (cash shop items, holiday events, new technologies) someone unwittingly messed these up and didn't knew.

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 9 місяців тому +1

      In 2010 I was using a 2560x1440 monitor, I still use 1440p to this day (just 5120x1440 instead) designing for 1024x768 monitors was already stupid in 2010

  • @jkbscopes1233
    @jkbscopes1233 3 роки тому +24

    Someone needs to make an RPG called seatomancer where your skills change and upgrade the type of seating you can use,

    • @ericb3157
      @ericb3157 3 роки тому

      reminds me of the "culinaromancer", a villain in Runescape 2.
      he's part of the "recipe for disaster" quest line.

  • @ded2thaworld963
    @ded2thaworld963 3 роки тому +30

    Him: makes fun of glass blacksmithing
    Me playing skyrim: 😖

    • @WolfCoder
      @WolfCoder 3 роки тому +12

      Yeah but at least in Skyrim its not the first thing you learn and it explains how it isn't the glass you think if you read the light armor forging book

    • @Kawamura2
      @Kawamura2 3 роки тому +4

      It's a fantasy game. You can make weapons out of magical ice, I forget what it's called, so glass shouldn't be the thing balked at lol

  • @b_wb1056
    @b_wb1056 3 роки тому +20

    Ooh I remember this game! The issues with the small UI and text might be because of your screen resolution, a lot of these older low-budget mmos have troubles dealing with high res in Windows 10. I'd figure it would look normal on a crappy old laptop, funnily enough. You'd have to change it in the properties tabs of the game's executable.

  • @grandbean9031
    @grandbean9031 3 роки тому +35

    "This game has lovers emote tab"
    Ah, so they"re yabe
    "It has an emote with a girl standing on a boy's head"
    Ah so they're cultured
    "That says get stepped on by your queen, did you like it?"
    Ah so they're cringe.

  • @Kafj302
    @Kafj302 3 роки тому +15

    You need to start turning names vertical to fill in the space between the horizontal names and organizing the names by length. Just absolutely fill the patreon screen.

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks 2 роки тому +9

    I remember seeing art and the character images. I had no idea it was an actual game...it looks terrible. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

  • @Freakymonify
    @Freakymonify 3 роки тому +91

    Josh is like the spiritual successor of TotalBiscuit, his unofficial protégé. Amazing content, keep it up.

    • @yami2828
      @yami2828 3 роки тому +31

      I miss total biscuit

    • @ino_mation
      @ino_mation 2 роки тому +12

      Wow.. Okay, yeah, this. You've finally hit the nail as to why I kept coming back to Josh's content in the last couple of weeks, first thinking "Oh, what's that? Okay, I'll watch it, not subscribe though", and then... just kept doing so, and not subscribing, because I was like, I *kinda* like the guy, but I dunno... am I going to stay interested enough beyond just watching a few videos? Then, I saw this comment, alright, I'm subscribing, because, yes, you're right.

    • @prototype102010
      @prototype102010 2 роки тому +1

      I'm late... sorry. But I was thinking this the other day while watching one of Josh's videos on 40K. Just, MAD nostalgia from how he presented it, things he said, etc.

    • @Chaosfly10
      @Chaosfly10 Рік тому +3

      Yeah, Its actually really refreshing and great. I like that his critiques of the games are actual ones instead of just nitpicking everything, As well as naming all the positives and negatives without being overly generic about it. Very Totalbiscuit-like indeed
      Sure do miss him though, I grew up watching him

  • @nobodyfromnowwhere7510
    @nobodyfromnowwhere7510 3 роки тому +9

    I just had the image of this in my head. Picture your old days playing FFXI - Remember all those times you were dead and shouting for a raise? Well, in this game, you stand by the roadside and beg people to come make out with you. You know, so you can continue your adventure as a mighty hero....

  • @richardlam171
    @richardlam171 3 роки тому +66

    With every upload, we get closer to a Maplestory video

    • @hyperionnova2854
      @hyperionnova2854 3 роки тому +10

      I’m really hoping he covers MapleStory at some point... a lot of the problems in these Eastern MMOs are especially prevalent there, the only difference is that MS came out way earlier

    • @TheResidence.mp4
      @TheResidence.mp4 3 роки тому +2

      I'm waiting for the day

    • @SkySumisu
      @SkySumisu 3 роки тому +6

      It's weird to think that old MapleStory had the same types of problemas as this type of game (e.g. being a "Potion-chugging" game, having low HP restore rate, being a slogfest, being punished for leveling up before updating your class, etc), but they eventually solved them and now have a plethora of other issues (Most of the maps being empty, ther enot being a reason to do PQ's anymore, nor most quests, and that the game only truly begins after level 200).

    • @zibix4562
      @zibix4562 3 роки тому +3

      @@SkySumisu saddens me too because i have a ton of good memories from old maplestory(when zakum was the big boss and ludi clocktower was the shit too)

    • @Konpekikaminari
      @Konpekikaminari 3 роки тому +1

      @@zibix4562 back in the day where little ol' me would've stand there, mouth agape as those stone-hatted elites passed me by

  • @sucyshi
    @sucyshi 2 роки тому +13

    The information cramming is a cultural thing. Chinese characters, which can be found in pre-hangul Korean (which most of these mmos come from), Japanese, and obviously the Chinese languages, are information dense. So apps, websites, etc from these countries made for these countries tend to be visually information dense as an aesthetic

  • @smoothboy21
    @smoothboy21 3 роки тому +9

    Big love for you man.. for having the Legacy of Kain series installed..

  • @yawninglion1677
    @yawninglion1677 2 роки тому +6

    That waterfall noise unlocked some weird distant memory of mine involving a website or game with chooseable sound-effects, including a waterfall noise. I have no idea what game or website it might've been, and I'm going insane. It wasn't just a stock sound-effects website because I was choosing them for a purpose.

  • @fatrobin72
    @fatrobin72 3 роки тому +15

    UI wise I imagine it has the issue of being designed for resolutions that these days are more commonly seen on watches...

  • @hybridlawify
    @hybridlawify 2 роки тому +9

    oh, lucent heart...... the fondest memory of this game that i have is the fact i was in the beta for it, and i had a lot of fun talking to my fellow beta players. in retrospect it really wasn't the best or most interesting game though (especially since i fell out of playing it within the first month of its release, lol) but at least i can say i was in the beta for it

  • @MoonTiger88
    @MoonTiger88 3 роки тому +8

    God bless your heart for the FFXIV Free Trial meme, the whole community just embraced that shit.
    (Jokes aside, do you actually have a FC on Omega for the community? I'd gladly join, my kitty is there)

  • @Sleepless.Nights
    @Sleepless.Nights 3 роки тому +21

    14:58 "I just think it's neat"

  • @franklywell1539
    @franklywell1539 3 роки тому +28

    Does this one have date dungeons too?

  • @Avigorus
    @Avigorus 3 роки тому +15

    Suggestion regarding the name slides: Don't just organize them alphabetically, organize them by name size first, so you can have narrower columns take up less space then wider ones, instead of just doing it haphazardly.
    Granted would take more time, but would make them more legible lol

    • @ErwinPommel
      @ErwinPommel Рік тому

      They're not ordered alphabetically, though. They're ordered by length of patronage. Oldest patrons at the top left, newest at the bottom right.

    • @Avigorus
      @Avigorus Рік тому

      @@ErwinPommelOh gotcha I'd missed that

  • @alloounou6900
    @alloounou6900 2 роки тому +11

    Happy and sad emotions for battle abilities is actually really immersive. So immersive, in fact, players used their immense amounts of sad IRL to distance themselves from this game.

  • @kieragreywolf546
    @kieragreywolf546 3 місяці тому +2

    "Who needs magic when you have the power of gun!?"
    Just ask Emet-Selch from Final Fantasy 14.

  • @foureyeddragon00
    @foureyeddragon00 3 роки тому +6

    All of these bring back so many memories of hours spent playing games like FlyFF. Looking back now I’m so glad that I’ve moved on to so much better games.

  • @CeruleanChurch
    @CeruleanChurch 2 роки тому +11

    I feel like this is the episode where Josh is the absolute MOST passive aggressive

  • @YogTezcatSothoth
    @YogTezcatSothoth 3 роки тому +38

    having the queen step on your head is the best part of the game. You really aren't giving the game a fair chance if you don't try it.

  • @jerehirvonen7075
    @jerehirvonen7075 3 роки тому +6

    These were the days where every new upcoming mmo was exciting. I remember hyping up for months for this back in 2010? or 2011. We even made a guild before the game launched. The game was ok back then but didn't really keep me hooked for that long

  • @zMiiChy
    @zMiiChy 3 роки тому +12

    Oh boy, that's a very suspicious thumbnail.

  • @marcusalm7350
    @marcusalm7350 3 роки тому +5

    I just started FFXIV, after Jesse Cox did a video on it a little while ago (and a whole bunch of other UA-cam channels before that).
    You don't need to tell me to get it anymore Universe!

  • @Jasina85
    @Jasina85 3 роки тому +3

    Always fun to watch you break the game down and analyze it in these videos. Kinda hoping one day you'll do an episode on the Eternal Lands - it's an old indie MMO I remember playing excessively with my friends back in school. Curious what you'd have to say about it.

  • @sadmann4222
    @sadmann4222 3 роки тому +5

    Yeah there was a period of time where there was a new low budget MMOs were seemingly coming every other week. Fun times during the late 2000s, early 2010s.

  • @moopert86
    @moopert86 6 місяців тому +3

    "I would play the crap out of a MMO where I beat my enemies to death by summoning benches."
    This should not have made me laugh nearly as hard as it did.

  • @Tsarius11
    @Tsarius11 2 роки тому +17

    I feel like there needs to be a distinction between game developers and game publishers. Suba didn't make Lucent Heart, they published it. I know publishers can be blamed for the cash shop, they typically can't be blamed for the world design though? I just think it would be good to add a "developed" or "designed by" line in your script.

  • @redrum1190
    @redrum1190 3 роки тому +6

    Lol this game made me a bunch of friends that I still talk to today, and the girl cupid matched me with we still talk and play a bunch of different games together. I played this hardcore like 10 years ago.

  • @TheGeneReyva
    @TheGeneReyva Рік тому +2

    "Summons a bench wait I'm a benchmanser?!" Sounds like a class in Dungeonmans.

  • @Bridgeofaudio
    @Bridgeofaudio 3 роки тому +13

    Might I suggest Angel’s Online? It’s not… super bad iirc, but I also haven’t played it in literally years.

  • @aetherwizard3218
    @aetherwizard3218 2 роки тому +6

    I tried this game once and made the mistake of playing a healer. They clearly intend for the guys to all take knight and the girls to take the mage. My only 3 player interactions were male knights who after just randomly healing them and starting to run off was told that they're not (slurs for gay people) and insulted for healing them. The problem with a "dating mmo" is that everyone thinks that every small interaction is an attempt to have sex with them.

  • @philipnickels9441
    @philipnickels9441 3 роки тому +6

    That "dumbest feature ever" of an inventory 2nd password is very similar to the bank pin in runescape lol infact many player have asked for the ability to lock your inventory like your bank since their 2fa is a joke.... hmmmmm thonking face.

  • @mister-x2
    @mister-x2 3 роки тому +8

    Josh is one "AAAAASSS!" scream away to become the next AVGN

  • @tomekd789
    @tomekd789 3 роки тому +61

    Ah yes, another coverup for a shady and possibly illegal dating site.

  • @andersonwatch9075
    @andersonwatch9075 3 роки тому +2

    Lol those animal sound effects are so good damn loud that I paused the video wondering if there was something in my room

  • @heebusjeebus64xxjivo70
    @heebusjeebus64xxjivo70 Рік тому +3

    This MMORPG is for that one kid in high school who wears a wolf tail, growls at random passerby & runs with his arms stretched back yet for some reason he always has a date & is always biting them.

  • @KollinsPlays
    @KollinsPlays 3 роки тому +53

    There are a lot of things I could put on my list of traits for the ideal partner. A penchant for really bad MMOs that look child friendly but have excessive adult content and monetization is not one of them. (edit: autocorrect correction correction. Thanks @DarthZ01)

    • @DarthZ01
      @DarthZ01 3 роки тому +4

      Penchant for them.
      Perchance is like maybe. Or like 'by chance'.

    • @KollinsPlays
      @KollinsPlays 3 роки тому +1

      @@DarthZ01 Autocorrect is the worst.

  • @ShelBelSapphire
    @ShelBelSapphire 3 роки тому +7

    Ah man, The Rasmus. There's a band I really haven't listened to since highschool...

    • @Dreznin
      @Dreznin 3 роки тому

      I heard what he said and was like, "whoa now, don't go bagging on The Rasmus!" Then again, I think it's been almost ten years since I last binged their music, but still...

  • @tvctaswegia497
    @tvctaswegia497 2 роки тому +6

    As a developer that launcher looks hardcoded and they're dumping logs, so no real effort was spent there. The ui layout looks like some lazy translation/migration perhaps.
    The instant level up looks to be a cheap game stat check - how many people who installed the game actually played it for more than a minute.
    The rest of your points are excellent and rage-inducing as always. Well done.

  • @scorpion07070
    @scorpion07070 3 роки тому +4

    I think a lot of foreign games are simply translated "as-is" and any graphical assets like window sizes aren't changed from the original, fitting, japanese ones. Often the japanese characters take far less space than western script and for some reason they either don't, or can't, change the font size. Cheap ports don't employ all-new graphics designers. Just translators and voice actors (maybe).

  • @toolazyforthis3164
    @toolazyforthis3164 3 роки тому +3

    I have never been so tempted to become a patron as I do when I look at that massive list of names

  • @Razeluxe01
    @Razeluxe01 3 роки тому +12

    actually, Lucent Heart was marketed as a dating sim mmorpg. So that's why those features and tabs and whatnot are there. That was literally the purpose. If I remember correctly, you could dance with your date partner/spouse as a mini-game for buffs as well.
    Also, if I remember correctly, once you hit a certain point you were given some weird zodiac armor form that buffed your stats and whatnot. Was pretty cool at the time. Also, you got a level up box for every 5 levels that constantly gave you better gear. So you were supposed to be demolishing those wolves. Lol. of course, the level up boxes made crafting and whatnot 100% useless. In fact, you could craft like, 10 different weapons every crafting tier that all had the exact same stats. They just looked different. It was weird and pointless.

  • @estefaniac.1011
    @estefaniac.1011 3 роки тому +13

    Let's not forget that the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV is not only a great game but also a better place to meet people and they generally won't step on you (unless you go to Limsa Lominsa, but what you do with cat/bunnygirls hopefully away from prying eyes is up to you) 😄
    Good to see you're a fellow Chaos datacenter dweller, Josh ❤️

    • @pyroflare7774
      @pyroflare7774 Рік тому +1

      I play that but I'm so burned out from it

  • @HauntedOath
    @HauntedOath 3 роки тому +3

    We need to start a go fund me for Josh to get a new pc since most of his gameplay footage is always low quality and laggy lol good video as always though mate

    • @BT-ex7ko
      @BT-ex7ko 3 роки тому

      He's mentioned in previous videos that it's due to his recording software settings. I think its to save on space when recording footage - he plays some of MMO's for extensive amounts of time despite the short videos. I know for the later Otherlands videos and other MMO's he removed these limitations and you can see the footage in what seems to be 1080p at at least what looks to be 30 fps, maybe higher.

  • @mirridianthebold2688
    @mirridianthebold2688 3 роки тому +4

    Oh my god! The Final Fantasy mene broke me. I can't escape!

  • @butteryfriedwizard2219
    @butteryfriedwizard2219 2 роки тому +2

    Getting your head stepped on must be boss level buffs.

  • @Jokerbuzzed
    @Jokerbuzzed 3 роки тому +3

    1:14 "Even has that forgettable Euro techno music playing" .........I quietly close Shazam

  • @CelAbration
    @CelAbration Рік тому +2

    I used to beta test mmos in highschool and college. This is a trip down memory lane

  • @whtiequillBj
    @whtiequillBj 3 роки тому +3

    I thought the conclusion was going to be "password protected inventory, out of 10".

  • @toxicity791
    @toxicity791 Рік тому +2

    Those dog/wolf mobs at the start look pretty nice though actually.

  • @samueleveleigh2767
    @samueleveleigh2767 3 роки тому +4

    "who needs magic when yoy have the power of gun"
    Nobody tell him about gate for the love of god

  • @angustheterrible3149
    @angustheterrible3149 3 роки тому +1

    I'd really like to see you do one of these for Mabinogi after seeing this. It's a pretty famous/notorious nexon anime game.

  • @taliyah6275
    @taliyah6275 8 місяців тому +3

    You didn't get stepped on by the queen 😞

  • @EsailiaLightheart
    @EsailiaLightheart Рік тому +2

    17:42 I heard a completely different line in my head than the one he used.
    "And the first thing they try to sell me is glass, because someone played Elder Scrolls."

  • @sandiblack5072
    @sandiblack5072 3 роки тому +3

    You get a power up for kissing? "No homo, bro, I just need the power boost!"

  • @diersteinjulien6773
    @diersteinjulien6773 3 роки тому +1

    That "sitting on bench" pose.... that's the Kuso Miso bench pose.
    And I hate myself for having instantly recognized it

  • @Maverynthia
    @Maverynthia 3 роки тому +12

    Once again, Suba Games didn't "work on", "develop", or make the game. THey are just the publisher. Playcoo seems to be the one that made the game here.
    Also for the lay people at home. It does not take any more coding to put the animations on the female avatar. Just click model, click skeleton, click bind.
    Also Find NPC with Auto run is an assessability feature

  • @TheThirdDaySH
    @TheThirdDaySH 3 роки тому +2

    Ever accidentally click on a video, and then the first line just HOOKS you?

  • @Arkhavist_S
    @Arkhavist_S 3 роки тому +8

    Ah yes, the next installment of the Tinder MMO.

  • @antonjohansson3819
    @antonjohansson3819 3 роки тому +2

    Can you do Goat MMO Simulator ? Got one of the funniest trailers I've seen about game development.