Hello im a fan of your bayonets i have a question to you i bought a butcher bayonet made by simson co (was my first orginal) of 1916 it dosent have any unit markings only because of its year but it got some red paint on some parts how can i know its unit and what color of knot shell i buy
Are these post Imperial knot rules? For WWI and before, isn't it only the bayonet knots that vary by batallion/company? IE, a Prussian officer would have the same sword knot no matter which unit (ie, the long strap beign black and white striped, the slide being black and white weave, the crown and tassel being white and the inside of the tassel black?)
Hi. I guess the answer to your question depends on how you want to translate the word "sword knot". In my video i only talked about the trooper variants of the "Troddel" (foot soldiers) and "Faustriemen" (mounted soldiers) and translated "troddel" to bayonet knot and "Faustriemen" to sword knot. Those had the specific colour code as described in the video from 1818 until 1918. The portepee, the special sword knot for officers you are talking about, is not the topic of my video. But it i should have made it more clear that i was not talking about the officers variants but only the trooper/enlisted rank variants. I hope this answers your question. Cheers, Vincent.
Hi, Good basic introduction to a very complex system that I have struggled with since starting my collection of swords, bayonets and appropriate knots, etc. However, unless I have misread the book on these knots, NCO troddel had coloured striped stem, crown and tassel in the relevant state/kingdom colours. NCO faustriemen had state/kingdom coloured knots. Saxony's NCO train faustriemen I think was different in that it was in green and white. Kreutz,Hofmann, Johnson and Reddick - Edged Weapon Accoutrements of Germany 1800 - 1945 is brilliant but so damned confusing and complex. I have no idea how anyone followed this. Keep up the good work. Have a read of the source because it outlines the very different rules that applied to the display of portepee in the various kingdoms.
Thank you for watching the video and taking your time to write your kind comment. Portepees/Troddel/Faustriemen are really in interesting but very complex topic. I know some gentlemen who exclusivly collect those items and even for the imperial german era there are hundreds of diffrent portepees to collect. There is a german book out there from Mr. Kreutz regarding this topic and as soon as i find an example i will try to read more into this field of collecting. However those books are rare end expensive. We'll see when i find one, maybe i can do another more detailed video. Cheers, Vincent.
@@imperialgermanbayonets9244 Same rat, I cleaned it up and put it in the correct scabbard..lots of unknown dried substance on the blade, might have been varnish.
Again, you have clearly illustrated an interesting area of German military equipment that is not widely known about - thank you Vincent!
Its always great to have such an accomplished collector watching my videos. Thank you Leo.
Very interesting topic. It's so cool that you can completely identify a soldiers unit from his uniform and weapon.
Keep them coming
Indeed! Sadly with all the period black and white pictures its not that easy but still an interesting topic. Cheers, Vincent.
Hello im a fan of your bayonets i have a question to you i bought a butcher bayonet made by simson co (was my first orginal) of 1916 it dosent have any unit markings only because of its year but it got some red paint on some parts how can i know its unit and what color of knot shell i buy
Cool video thanks Vincent 😊👍👍👍
Thank you for your comment :-)
Are these post Imperial knot rules? For WWI and before, isn't it only the bayonet knots that vary by batallion/company? IE, a Prussian officer would have the same sword knot no matter which unit (ie, the long strap beign black and white striped, the slide being black and white weave, the crown and tassel being white and the inside of the tassel black?)
Hi. I guess the answer to your question depends on how you want to translate the word "sword knot".
In my video i only talked about the trooper variants of the "Troddel" (foot soldiers) and "Faustriemen" (mounted soldiers) and translated "troddel" to bayonet knot and "Faustriemen" to sword knot. Those had the specific colour code as described in the video from 1818 until 1918.
The portepee, the special sword knot for officers you are talking about, is not the topic of my video. But it i should have made it more clear that i was not talking about the officers variants but only the trooper/enlisted rank variants.
I hope this answers your question. Cheers, Vincent.
Hi,
Good basic introduction to a very complex system that I have struggled with since starting my collection of swords, bayonets and appropriate knots, etc. However, unless I have misread the book on these knots, NCO troddel had coloured striped stem, crown and tassel in the relevant state/kingdom colours. NCO faustriemen had state/kingdom coloured knots. Saxony's NCO train faustriemen I think was different in that it was in green and white. Kreutz,Hofmann, Johnson and Reddick - Edged Weapon Accoutrements of Germany 1800 - 1945 is brilliant but so damned confusing and complex. I have no idea how anyone followed this.
Keep up the good work. Have a read of the source because it outlines the very different rules that applied to the display of portepee in the various kingdoms.
Thank you for watching the video and taking your time to write your kind comment. Portepees/Troddel/Faustriemen are really in interesting but very complex topic. I know some gentlemen who exclusivly collect those items and even for the imperial german era there are hundreds of diffrent portepees to collect. There is a german book out there from Mr. Kreutz regarding this topic and as soon as i find an example i will try to read more into this field of collecting. However those books are rare end expensive. We'll see when i find one, maybe i can do another more detailed video.
Cheers, Vincent.
Vincent: I obtained a French AN XIII that was captured and used by Prussia, I can send pix if you wish...
Hey Dale, was this the sword we talked about a few weeks back or did you found another treasure in the US? Cheers, Vincent.
@@imperialgermanbayonets9244 Same rat, I cleaned it up and put it in the correct scabbard..lots of unknown dried substance on the blade, might have been varnish.