I just sold my Mach-E GT Performance for the EV6 GT, and, respectfully, I don't think that Rory did a good job of understanding and reviewing this car. It's actually a real HOOT, and has perhaps the best bang for the buck (or pound) of any EV performance-oriented car. It outshines the i4 M50 in interior space, handling, and acceleration, and price. I find that the car has a lot of adjustability in its suspension, I just don't think Rory seemed to spend much time with it in anything but GT mode (which is a stiff ride). I think Rory couldn't look get past the sport seats -- I think he just might not be, uh, the body type for this car. For those who fit, it's completely wrong to dismiss this as a viable competitor to the i4 M50 and base Taycan. And it blows the Mach-E away with its much more sophistcated powertrain and suspension. Oh and I got one for $12k off of MSRP in the US, I think it's a steal.
Agree. I canceled my i4 M50 order after a test drive in the EV6 GT, which I bought. I immediately felt more comfortable in the Kia - much better forward visibility and unlike Rory, I love the seats. I think the tech in the Kia is better, the paddle regen control is wonderful. I am also getting way better range than the EPA rating. How Rory can say the car has unnecessary power and is not fun is beyond me.
Yeah, I don't get the seat comments. When I heard that I thought "Huh? I've never felt disccomfort along the thigh in this? I thought the seats were actually quite good". The climate/media control switching... never found that a problem either. Though these days I default it to climate (if I switch it to media it reverts to climate again after a few seconds) as nearly all the media controls are operated through buttons on the steering wheel. Australia may have a different suspension tune (or my prior experience is with stiff sports cars), but I'd hardly call the ride harsh, even in GT mode. I never really change the seat position, so lack of power seats isn't a big deal. Though I really would have liked the ventilation that is on the GT-Line seats. I haven't pushed my EV6 GT hard around corners yet (still getting used to it; don't want to bingle it), but there may be some truth to the lack of predictability mid corner. Shall see how much of that sense diappears once I'm more accustomed to the car. Overall, this car is a sensational drive, as well as a comfy cruiser. And in a squirt from the traffic lights it will destroy pretty much any ICE car out there.
You may be able to get a Taycan for £60k, I think I’d still have that Kia. It’d probably go the same distance on a charge, and you don’t need to find one with £25k worth of options as they’re full spec from the start.
Design wise I think it looks like what we’ve come to expect from EVs today. However, the numbers on the speed is mind blowing. Kia might have outdone themselves here
I'm just really happy that that these brands can challenge the 'luxury' brands for their money. Having an EV means the acceleration/speed is not a factor anymore. Please do a drag race between this and the ferrari .
I daily drive a bmw 5 series and have a Peugeot 306 gti6 as a track car. But I have always appreciated kia as a company. They build decent cars for the morning and offer good warranty
@slickidrich490 : I have owned BMW's for the past forty-plus years. We also have a Kia Niro EV... I could not be more impressed with the standard of fit & finish in the Kia; OK, the seats are covered in something fake with a fancy name right out of Elon's book, and will never compare to BMW's M-Sport leather offerings, but it was only half the price. Things are changing at a scary pace! 🥴
There's also the fact that the base model has more than enough performance for a daily-driver crossover. You are paying more for worse experience with the GT.
I agree on the spoiling part. EV6 GT laps on track quite well, but it seems that Rory is on a mission to trash the car. "... For a Kia" and comparison to slower USED porsche Taycan gave it up. 😂
@@speksih : I really enjoy Rory's presentation... a bit of fact, a bit of his opinion, and a bit of 'tongue in cheek'. He has been (relatively) flattering about Kia's in the past, and while you may not agree with the comparison to a USED car, remember this channel is called 'AutoTrader' for a reason! 😜 Maybe if you and I were supplied with an Audi E-tron GT, we would look down our noses at most other cars on offer? Lucky Bas***d!
I have. Been driving my gt daily, taking the time to learn the car and how to use the settings is half the fun. Once setup for your style it becomes amazing.. love this car.
3.5 mins in and already Rory dishing out the REAL review on all the small things right and wrong. He calls it as it is and catches all the driver annoyances that most other reviewers miss. Matt Watson comes close with his 5 annoying things but Rory never fails. The REAL reviewer on YT.
@pumpituphomeboy : I agree... I have watched Rory's reviews on cars I have no interest in, just because I enjoy his videos. Nevertheless, not everyone is annoyed by the same things; For example, Kia's Lane Keep Assist (LKA) is a real hate for me... I want to be able to 'ease' through a corner by touching the sideline without getting into a 'Tug of War' with the steering wheel. As for have the damned thing scare the carp out of my passengers by 'Bonging' repeatedly... HELL NO! I have tried and failed to turn this off in the menus; having to turn it off each trip is a faff. My BMW allows me to turn the steering-tugger off, and choose whether to have vibrate on, and at what level... it would never be so uncouth as to involve my passengers in the decision by yelling at them! AND IT REMEMBERS WHAT I TOLD IT!... it is my car, after all. 😡
You dont have to press the heat button. If you're in one of the auto heating modes the car toggles that on and off for you. The reason its there is to allow you to use an ambient air fan to clear the windscreen without all the power use of using the heater. I own one. It doesnt matter much in the EV6 but i wouldve killed for that feature in my 1st gen 24kwh Nissan Leaf 😂
@@AutoTraderTV you just leave it in auto. Then it heats or cools to whatever temp you set like a normal climate control. It remembers the setting when turned off. Set and forget.
You just leave it turned on in normal situations. But if you need to maximise range, you have the ability to turn off the heat. No one complains that you have to press the A/C button to get cold air in ICE car...
WTF Tesla is a punching bag. Hyundai-Kia group is doing great EVs but they need to be taken down a peg. Don't be a cliche and treat all brands a fairly.
The turn radius is probably reduced due to the size of the electric motors, depending on their placement. Or possibly because it's using axles and CV joints from another vehicle, to save on R&D and production costs, making it difficult to optimize its turning radius, as the pre-existing parts are already a certain size.
I have one. it's bonkers fast. Totally usable in just about every way. If you want to impress your mates, the GT button is the EV equivalent of Nitrous.
@@adams7405 haha. Clearly never driven one. Will keep an eye out for you in your Citroen C1 though! Personally I think the Toyota Aygo is better version. Do you have the 1.3?
I love automobiles, everything from big trucks to nimble convertibles. EVs have a place, especially in daily commute duty or purpose build. But now, this Kia makes electric fun, set me up with one...PLEASE!
Ignore the naysayers who say electric cars are “soulless“. I have had perfomance gas engine cars my whole life, but my EV6 GT has won me over. What it may lack in noise and vibration (if that’s your thing, it’s not mine anymore) it makes up for in instant, massive torque - which is its own kind of soul. You will love it.
I would go for the MG4 X Power 36 grand 429 BHP 0 - 62 3.8 seconds bargain of the century well done MG hope all prices come down prices are too high at the moment.
Yeah, MG's are crazy good, especially for the money. And the Cyberster is an absolute beaut. Even so, I've always loved Korean cars like Hyundai and Kia.
Well yes, it is awesome pricing, but the MG4 certainly hasnt had the attention it needs to handle the 429bhp properly. Theyve just strapped all that power into an almost standard car and the bright orange brake covers on it, dont fill you with confidence. However 3.8 secs for £36k is STILL bonkers. Im not sure there has been a new car in the last decade sold for that kind of money (hhmm. am I right?!) that gives so much straightline performance. Given the absolute daft EV pricing at the moment, its outrageous what MG have done there.
@SteYoung Absolutely agree with you thr MG does need more upgrades for it to be a better handling car but for straight light of the lights performance it is very hard to beat good sleeper car to pull up at the red lights in.
When people say that’s impressive “because it’s a Kia” they still think of the Kia of old, and a bit of badge snobbery is hinted in, the company has changed, it has gone through a complete overhaul, it no longer is that cheap, budget joke of a car company it use to be, it has now become a premium brand and a big time player, it offers performance, luxury and quality to that of European brands, Kia along with Hyundai have re-invented themselves and if you think they’re still a cheap run-of-the-mill car company you need to get that mentality out of your head.
I prefer manual seats.. how often am I really moving it? For me the answer is basically never, why carry around a bunch of gears and motors for something that moves maybe 5 times in the whole duration I own it?
@shovel : True, but the whole picture changes when two or more people share a vehicle. We have a Kia Niro without seat memory, and a BMW with "Comfort Access". Approach the BMW with your own key in your pocket and the door unlocks, the seat moves to your position, the door-mirrors do the same, the sound system switches to your station, the Head-Up display adjusts to your height, etc. Just think how much complication you are avoiding! 😜 🥴
I don't understand how lazy the humanity has become. Because of the winging about manual seating and now, unpowered tailgates. Really! I love manual seating, so easy and quick. What a step backwards, waiting for electric motors.
The manual seat surprised me when I first went to look at mine. I said “Really? A manual seat?” The sales guy claimed it was for “weight reduction”. Uh huh… but it has a power moonroof… But I’m the only person that drives my car. I set it once and I don’t touch it ever again. It’s not a deal breaker.
Same with mine. I set it up in a few seconds when I first got the car and haven’t touched it since. My wife will never drive it, she’s terrified of the car!
@@michaelc2254 Ha! My wife loves the car, but she refuses to drive it for some reason. She has an Ioniq 5. I think maybe she doesn't want to get jealous. Ha ha!
i think the ioniq 6 N will beat everything. i have a 2023 golfR performance at the moment but im ready to trade it in, in a heartbeat for the ioniq 6N. finally an ev worth it
The heat does not come on automatically when you set the temperature, because it's a thermostat. This means that when the temperature varies too far above, or too far below the temperature that you have set, it will automatically turn on heat or cool depending on the circumstance. If you set the temperature to the temperature that you want, and need use heat to get there, then you need to press heat. If you set the temperature to what you want, and need to get cool to get there, then you press the cooling button. But if you just set the temperature and leave it alone, it works automatically.
Sounds like they need some of the Hyundai N engineers to actually do some of the dynamics on this. All that power and falls apart at the sight of a bend, even more baffling when you effectively have those engineers within your sister brand.
I received a $3750 dealer discount and another $4000 discount for financing with Kia. My OTD with taxes in VA was $3000 less than MSRP. Oh, and I am beating the 207 mile EPA range rating by 30 miles. I am confident that when it's not 98F here I can get closer to 240miles and up for range. As for finding DC charging stations, if you use Apple Car Play your charging apps and drill down by charging speed.
@@ThisiscoolGAMES I'd put the build quality of this car against my Mercedes-Benz GLC AMG. I agree, Kia probably doesn't end up as a poster on the wall of teenagers. I wanted an EV for the performance. This thing is considerably quicker than my RS3 tuned on E85. It's a hoot!
@@sforry9332 I agree. I have one and the fit and finish is just as good as my BMW. It’s scary fast and I’m killing the EPA range rating. I have been taking it easy to see how much I could stretch it and driving mostly in Normal Mode with occasional blasts in GT I am getting 270-280 miles on a full charge. I don’t know how the EPA tested it, but it is capable of WAY more than 206 miles.
Nice review (as ALWAYS!) but, I disagree in that it's not difficult to wrap your head around buttons and allocation of them, once you've been in the car for longer than 10mins, or more than a one off test drive, and I 100% prefer the option of physical buttons over a one screen to do EVERYTHING, meaning I need to look away from the road to see/check my speed!
A quick FYI on the infotainment.... you can select which chargers the map shows you when you press EV on the screen. Mine is set to 100kW chargers and above - this shows only the faster DC chargers!
Obviously this was the shocker around 6mths to 1yr ago. Now I am looking forward to the Volvo XC30 Performance. OK it is a little smaller but at £42,000 it even comes with a panoramic roof.!!
The Electric seats would not only add weight they would also more than likely increase the seat height. And then Rory would complain about the seats being too high😂😂😂
Give me mechanical seats any day of the week. My wife and I are constantly adjusting seats for each other and it takes way less time with a mechanical lever than holding a button and waiting for the seat to bzzzzzz its way into position. Pull, slide, clunk, done.
@@TheDaern If you had a good auto seat it would memorise both your favourite positions and automatically preset them based on whose key was used to open the door. No adjustment necessary. Ever.
Those suspensions are set like that because SUVs are inherently top heavy.. That's just physics.. They would like them to perform like a car. SUVs are not "cars". They're a bridge between minivans and trucks..
I would for sure buy this car. I would love dust my hardcore ICE motorhead friends with an family EV designed for going to work, bringing the kids to soccer games, and to the grocery store.
Why is everyone obsessed with electric seats? They're heavy and slow. I adjusted my seats in January when I got my car and haven't touched them since. Also for the slightly slimmer driver (🤣) the bolsters fit perfectly and don't dig in to your thighs.Overall it's an incredible car, especially when you consider it's half the price of the equivalent Taycan. I agree the heating controls are a bit annoying but it's no big deal. The power is quite addictive though. Certainly for most people the regular car is probably better (and more than fast enough) but that extra grunt is nice to have. My weekend toy is a BAC Mono, and in a straight line the KIA doesn't feel at all slow, that's mental. My Porsche 997 now sits in the garage most of the time.
A word of warning… I recently bought the GT (in black) and have been driving it now for 4 months. During that time I’ve accumulated numerous scratches in nearly every area of the car. The drive is great and the performance is something else, but the paint is the worst paint on a car I’ve ever had, and especially one which costs over £60k.
I would only like that heat on/off button for plug in hybrids.. keep that engine from turning on and just give me some airflow to keep the fog off the windshield
You have to turn the heating on as it has to be generated via an electric heater - totally different to a ICE powered car that generates the heat regardless.
Best low profile tires Goodyear Eagle Sport ive tried out most on the market Goodyears are the best in rain and are the smoothest riding they feel like your riding on clouds all the way til theres no thread left
@hieroglyph321 : I assume you are referring to the Ioniq 5 N? Without seeing one 'in the flesh', I really like the look of it. The Yt reviews I've seen suggest that the standard Kia EV6 is a bit better to drive than the standard Ioniq 5, but early signs suggest the Ioniq 5 N might have the edge on the EV6 GT. It will be interesting to watch progress.
@@PiefacePete46 The Kia GT was made as a GT, so fast on long straights. The Ioniq 5 N is even more special, totally different interior and exterior, more cooling for on track, more aero for downforce, more things you can customize (torque to front or rear), different interior etc etc. Albert Biermann even said it in an interview, the N is made for the track, the GT for long distance cruising,
@@andrewmcmillan8110 see that is the problem with you car babies, n is not only about straight line performance ... get ur ev6 gt meet me with an ioniq 5N I will show u what 0.5s feels and looks like then choose any track in the world let's see if u can kp up
@@afrikengunner the GT laps the Nurburgring in 7:42 and can do better with a better driver. Sorry nerd but car babies don’t have a fleet of cars like I do
Great review!! Unrelatedly I hope you do a distance road trip review with the new Land Cruiser similar to what you did with the Audi estate from Germany
I have a kia ev6 gt-line and I really don't see what use 585hp would have. The car is comfortable but the number one enemy is weight. It doesn't matter if you give me 200hp more, it's still much too heavy to attack the turns well. here in Canada the ev6 GT costs around $24,000 more with lost government rebates. I don't regret my choice of the GT-line
one thing I don't like about the modern cars is the digital displays . They are just square IPADS stuck on the dash. While they offer amazing features, I don't think they are being explored enough. II would like to see them more harmonized with the dash shape and with some cool 3D dials, which would resemble old stylish bezels.
I have had one of these for 6 months. You don’t need to press the heat button if climate is in auto mode as it should be. Not remotely bothered about the lack of electric seats. No idea what Rory is going on about regarding the bolster 🤷♂️. I find the handling is great (and I’ve had M cars previously). Does Rory know how dual motors work? The GT has a more powerful rear motor and you can’t direct power from the front motor to the rear one. It has similar performance to a Tesla Model 3 P (which I had before my GT - the GT is a much better car) but I don’t recall Rory saying that had too much power. Seems like Rory set out to discredit the car from the off - unlike the other EV6 GT reviews. Strange.
Whether it’s heat or auto, you do need to press a button in addition to setting the temp via the knob. Not the case on other cars. I think you misunderstood by point about moving power front and rear. Yes it has a less powerful motor up front, but my preference would be for it to use even less of the power it has at the front during cornering (in GT mode specifically). And ALL high performance EVs are unnecessarily fast - especially when they’re family cars whose primary purpose is not performance. The g-forces you pull when deploying the full and immediate torque are too uncomfortable to use regularly.
@@AutoTraderTV Auto is the default. No need to press any buttons unless at some point someone has turned it off. I last pressed one of those in January when I was trying stuff out - no need since. GT mode partially disables traction control. If you don't like that and still want full power, you can configure MY mode with TC fully on. Also you can get more power by using maximum power output mode. But sounds like you wouldn't like that.
@@speksih : The way I read it, @davidwolff1400 is not suggesting there are EV6 GT seats that are powered; rather he is suggesting that @thespeedlife had driven an EV6 GT-Line, not an EV6 GT. Unless he drove an updated model nobody else has ever seen, the seats would not be "the exact same seats". I had a look at thespeedlife UA-cam channel, but there was no Kia reviews there. BTW: I was close to buying an EV6 Long Range (Basic RWD model). The lack of side-bolster support, along with my wife finding it hard to judge the hidden extremities in traffic, killed it. We bought a Niro EV. Performance is a little down on the EV6 Long Range, but it is ideal for our requirements, and we have a BMW 330e if we need more.
Porsche promised a 1000HP Taycan in the works, I've driven the Tesla Plaid and Lucid Air, that pure EV acceleration, 0-60 in sub 2 seconds, after a few times, it's nothing more then a novelty. I'll take a sub 6-7 second EV with a 500 mile range any day over a 1000HP or sub 2 second EV. Stop giving us more power, give us range.
I agree with you on the power front, but I think range is already good enough. I just completed a 5000km road trip across Australia in my EV6 GT-line and there was only one leg where we dropped below 10%. What the current crop of EVs need is not more power or range, but more value, refinement, and character.
EV’s don’t work the same as ICE. A powerful ICE car is burning excess fuel when travelling slowly. A powerful EV isn’t using any more power when travelling slowly, than one with much less power.
They don't have electric adjustments because electric adjusting seats are notoriously heavy, it's electric vehicle and they are focusing on the highest range possible, this means shedding wait where possible. The fact that 62 Grand, and has no electric adjustment seats, makes perfect sense if you actually know what you're talkin about.
What happens if soccer mum picking up her kids from school after shopping in her high heels accidently releases 585HP kick down in front of the school, it could do some real damage whereas if she stuck to her Honda Odyssey worse is a bump onto someones rear bumper.
Good review as always thanks :). I think it looks epic in black and nothing new comes close for value/performance. The cheapest Taycan is 80K and probably 90K when you have added some tech to avoid feeling cheated - half as much again as the EV6. Electric seats wouldn't bother me, never adjust my seats anyway once they are set. Apart from the bolster issue which I would have to check out, it would be a serious contender for my money. Great car and great job by Kia.
The fact that a humble MG4 XPower can out accelerate a Ferrari, Porsche, Aston etc has taken the joy and aspiration out of driving a 'real' performance car. EVs have taken the fun out of motoring.
They can't. I own a Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS and am sick of dopes in EVs who think they're driving some kind of supercar. The reality in the real world on the open road is they can't even get close to you, I rinse Tesla model S and shitty Kia EVs all day long. All they do is embarrass themselves by thinking they can stay with a proper performance car.
I have to say .. I know it’s a Kia. And it’s an EV. But where else can you buy a car outputting those performance figures - brand new - for £60k? No normal engined car will get near those torque figures and for overall horsepower you’ll be looking at M-sport BMWs which are much more expensive than £60k new. You are paying a premium for performance. An 2023 M5 has similar power.. similar performance, but at least £115k up to £130k+ specced up.
And really, at those levels of costs, £120k + .. you’re into good second-hand supercar territory there, or even new Porsche land. That for a Beamer is a lot. As excellent and practical as M5s are.
YAWN, interesting until the price is mentioned again as usual with all these cars these days, maybe I'm just old but come on, when did average ish cars become as expensive as some houses? I suppose cheapest house around here is £100k though so only 60% of the price lol. Good review though as usual, maybe one day I'll be willing to buy something like that but right now I'd rather invest my money than to pXXs it away on overpriced cars.
@@FlyingFun. - a new Golf R with a similar interior spec to the EV6 GT costs £53k, and it’s still a lot slower & smaller, and doesn’t have the cheaper running costs of electric only.
With a smooth ubderbody, the diffuser probably does more than on a typical ICE car. And the spoiler does work, it is just more about aero efficiency than downforce.
If you get confused about two simple knobs i don't know what to tell you, i'm pretty sure most people appreciate having physical knobs to control basic functions instead relying on a tactile screen for everything.
Agree. I have an EV6 GT and in 6 months of ownership I think I have mistaken the mode I’m in maybe twice. Besides, you can control the radio from the steering wheel, no need to use the screen. I think it’s mainly an issue for car reviewers who always seem to find something to niggle about in their limited time with the vehicle. For owners, it’s a non-issue.
I had high hopes for this, but the downsides Rory mentioned around handling, unpredictable cornering dynamics are deal breakers for me. Still looking for a Touring M340i Electric equivalent.
Why do so many car journalist think we all wish to drive like Jenson Button …??? We are NOT Jenson Button …… This EV is great value with a bit of extra zip if required … that’s it …??
@@SDK2006b It’s still an EV ….. The obsession with high speed cornering is ludicrous… these are family cars, most of the driving population could not handle 400Hp … all these figures are just silly …. Yes when it comes to McLaren, Ferrari, etc that’s their brand and marketing, that’s what car enthusiasts expect,but come on it’s gone ridiculous….
@@conner.9262 - it’s not really an obsession - very few 400bhp+ family vehicles are sold, compared to the number of the cars on the road. My Polestar 2 has 460bhp and driving it day-to-day I barely use the power but Occasionally I have some fun ⚡️👍🏻 Powerful family cars have existed since the early 1990’s
@@SDK2006b No body would dispute that, but come on all these car journalist think they are Jenson Button and the driving public, obviously they are not ? I sound like I’m not a car enthusiast, far from the truth. This drive to EV motoring is crashing, the depreciation of these cars are off the scale, it’s not sustainable and there will be a big U-Turn that’s inevitable…?? My daughter and her husband recently bought a brand new Jaguar I-Pace, beautiful car, for me one of the best designs of EV at a cost over £70K not even a year ago, put her registration into we buy any car and it’s now value was just over £32K, it’s not even a year old …… the market will collapse with such depreciation…… As for me not interested in any EV, I’m happy with my 2014 Jaguar XKR convertible, does everything it said on the tin !
@@conner.9262 - depreciation : We Buy Any Car buy cars off people to sell at a higher price, about +30%, so every car they buy will much lower than the actual value. All new cars depreciate fast in the first year, some more than others. Also, markets go up and down, depending on global finance strength. Just a year ago used cars, ICE and EV, were selling for more than new, due to the wait on new orders. It’s just a cycle. Also, just a year ago people were complaining about high prices, now they are complaining about low used prices - what gives 🤷🏼♂️🤣 ::Edit:. You can easily get £7k+ off a new Jag iPace, so any used valuation/depreciation needs to take that into account
Odd that a professional reviewer can’t operate easy-to-use aircon controls that has been in Kia’s and Hyundais for years. This review is also inaccurate in how the aircon works as you do not need to press a heat button. As a consequence, the information in this video is highly misleading as cabin environment is such an important part of driving for most people.
@@nealeTH Disagree. Most cars set their temps using only the temp selector and nothing else. This car requires a separate button, whether that’s auto or heat, to be engaged.
@@AutoTraderTV that’s not true. Kia (and Hyundai) have auto climate control which controls the temperature (hot and cold) depending on what you set on the dial. And they have zones so the passenger can choose their own temperature on their own dial separate from the driver if they wish. I have got one.
Reviewers really need get over their Kia snobbery. Hyundai / Kia are innovation leaders in EVs and their prices are extremely good for the quality they offer.
Seems there is a common trend with AWD EVs that have 400+ of horse power. They accelerate like rockets on a straight line but on corners they show their weaknesses and cant compete with cars like the i30N. The only thing where these cars are fun at, is to awe other drivers at traffic lights.
you need to be a skilled testdriver and take the car to the limits on a trackrace to be able to point out the true performance capabilties which are not seen on the datasheet. sadly none of this is the case here. but french automagazine l'argus did find out with a bunch of performance EVs on german nurburg ring. -Model 3 Performance couldn't do a single lap before its batteries overheated and poweroutput dropped below 50%. Also the brakes failed after the 3rd curve. -Porsche Taycan Turbo S went into turtle mode after the 1st lap due to overheating batteries, same with BMW i40 M50 which also handles poorly. While the Kia EV6 GT could finish 3 fast laps without issues (fastest 7:42...). in addition the EV6 GT consumed 94 kWh whereas BMW and Porsche took more than 130 kWh during the testcourse.
The power of modern EVs is incredible, no doubt. 0-60 times are just silly now. But it's hard to compare to true sports cars because what you don't see on the paper stats is responsiveness under braking and cornering. EVs are great in a straight line, but they're still yet to impress in terms of feeland feedback around tight and twisty sections of road where the real fun comes to play.
Yup. This thing doesn't bode well for the Hyundai ioniq5N. The way Porsche etc make heavy pigs handle, drive and ride well is with super expensive suspension. These don't have triple chamber 48v anti roll etc etc, so ride and handle like crap. Bravo guys. Bravo.
@pigeonpoo1823 a 160k€ porsche taycan turbo s can only do one fast lap on nurburg ring until its battery overheats and goes into turtle mode, same for BMW i4 M50, Model3 perf can't even do one single lap. You can do 3 fast laps with the EV6 GT with max poweroutput and the I5N will probably beat any "performance" EV on the EV market
@@uludak8468 look I really want to see a positive to the EV future. We may not have a choice. But high riding +2000kg vehicles are not the answer, EV or Ice. Eg, the e208 is quicker around a track than a petrol 208. And? It drives and rides worse because of the additional 300-400kg. Basic physics. End of.
I disagree with you needing electric seats when they always break and they are too heavy save the money on the electric seats and put it somewhere else.
What puts me off buying an electric car, apart from the missing infrastructure, high energy costs and massive environmental damage creating the batteries is the fact they’re now like phones, the next best thing will be out in 12 months time or less making this not only less desirable but a depreciation time bomb.
For how much longer old people are going to say "And its a KIA", "For a KIA", " Cant believe its a KIA"? I keep hearing this for the last 15 years already. Its getting old. Get used for KIA's to be high performance cars already.
100% agree.The only real reason to change your ev in the future will be for a better battery and so I'm sure manufacturers will probably make it as difficult as possible to upgrade them! From a commercial perspective, I also don't see why manufacturers will build a battery capable of 500mile range and a 500,000 mile lifespan. If the batteries are that good to start, you'd only change the car based on the interior. I can see us all eventually in self driving pods which can be setup as an office/living room. Driving a car, let alone a sporty car will be dead. I shall enjoy my 3.0 turbo petrol until that day arrives.
@@KAWTELENUH there are a lot of cars with petrol and diesel engines without character. Probably the Taycan has more character than 99% of the cars on sale today
@@03Deltaintegrale you will change the car a lot sooner because of the poor quality of the interior plastics. We only work with expensive Mercedes V-class and the new ones make terrible noice from the plastics after 20.000miles
@@andreiarama8745 ummm no. The taycan is literally like all the other ev cars on the road. If you want to have fun, most people wouldn't pick a ev. Don't forget why ev were created in the first place "save the planet"
In the US, the only Taycan cheaper than an EV6GT on Autotrader is a salvage car with front end damage.
I’m guessing Porsches are less expensive in Europe 😢
It’ll buff off
😂😂😂😂
@@Nonegiven14582 : True, but unlike many others of this ilk, it is not too biased, and very watchable!
@@SlayerJim no, it isn't cheaper here or that cheaper 😅
I just sold my Mach-E GT Performance for the EV6 GT, and, respectfully, I don't think that Rory did a good job of understanding and reviewing this car. It's actually a real HOOT, and has perhaps the best bang for the buck (or pound) of any EV performance-oriented car. It outshines the i4 M50 in interior space, handling, and acceleration, and price. I find that the car has a lot of adjustability in its suspension, I just don't think Rory seemed to spend much time with it in anything but GT mode (which is a stiff ride). I think Rory couldn't look get past the sport seats -- I think he just might not be, uh, the body type for this car. For those who fit, it's completely wrong to dismiss this as a viable competitor to the i4 M50 and base Taycan. And it blows the Mach-E away with its much more sophistcated powertrain and suspension. Oh and I got one for $12k off of MSRP in the US, I think it's a steal.
Agree. I canceled my i4 M50 order after a test drive in the EV6 GT, which I bought. I immediately felt more comfortable in the Kia - much better forward visibility and unlike Rory, I love the seats. I think the tech in the Kia is better, the paddle regen control is wonderful. I am also getting way better range than the EPA rating. How Rory can say the car has unnecessary power and is not fun is beyond me.
Rory is all worked up about the thigh support - not sure on his seating position but I don’t have his issue…
This is also the first "negative" review I see of the EV6 GT, other reviewers where having a blast and where calling it the first real performance EV.
Yeah, I don't get the seat comments. When I heard that I thought "Huh? I've never felt disccomfort along the thigh in this? I thought the seats were actually quite good".
The climate/media control switching... never found that a problem either. Though these days I default it to climate (if I switch it to media it reverts to climate again after a few seconds) as nearly all the media controls are operated through buttons on the steering wheel.
Australia may have a different suspension tune (or my prior experience is with stiff sports cars), but I'd hardly call the ride harsh, even in GT mode.
I never really change the seat position, so lack of power seats isn't a big deal. Though I really would have liked the ventilation that is on the GT-Line seats.
I haven't pushed my EV6 GT hard around corners yet (still getting used to it; don't want to bingle it), but there may be some truth to the lack of predictability mid corner. Shall see how much of that sense diappears once I'm more accustomed to the car.
Overall, this car is a sensational drive, as well as a comfy cruiser. And in a squirt from the traffic lights it will destroy pretty much any ICE car out there.
Where did you get it for so cheap?
You may be able to get a Taycan for £60k, I think I’d still have that Kia. It’d probably go the same distance on a charge, and you don’t need to find one with £25k worth of options as they’re full spec from the start.
Design wise I think it looks like what we’ve come to expect from EVs today. However, the numbers on the speed is mind blowing. Kia might have outdone themselves here
I'm just really happy that that these brands can challenge the 'luxury' brands for their money. Having an EV means the acceleration/speed is not a factor anymore. Please do a drag race between this and the ferrari .
thats it tho your not paying for luxury 585 bhp in a kia isnt gonna be as nice as 585 bhp in a ferrari or bentley
Carwow already did a drag race with this EV and Ferrari
It can never be luxury if it's mass marketed.
Going fast in a straight line is about where it ends. These shitty EVs are horrible cars. No challenge what so ever pal.
I daily drive a bmw 5 series and have a Peugeot 306 gti6 as a track car. But I have always appreciated kia as a company. They build decent cars for the morning and offer good warranty
@slickidrich490 : I have owned BMW's for the past forty-plus years. We also have a Kia Niro EV... I could not be more impressed with the standard of fit & finish in the Kia; OK, the seats are covered in something fake with a fancy name right out of Elon's book, and will never compare to BMW's M-Sport leather offerings, but it was only half the price. Things are changing at a scary pace! 🥴
What about for the afternoon?
You are spoiled by the Audi/Taycan experiences you’ve had Rory 🙂
There's also the fact that the base model has more than enough performance for a daily-driver crossover. You are paying more for worse experience with the GT.
@@smog535have you driven one? I tested it and could not tell a major difference in comfortability in comfort mode vs my EV6 GT-Line.
I agree on the spoiling part. EV6 GT laps on track quite well, but it seems that Rory is on a mission to trash the car. "... For a Kia" and comparison to slower USED porsche Taycan gave it up. 😂
@@speksih : I really enjoy Rory's presentation... a bit of fact, a bit of his opinion, and a bit of 'tongue in cheek'. He has been (relatively) flattering about Kia's in the past, and while you may not agree with the comparison to a USED car, remember this channel is called 'AutoTrader' for a reason! 😜
Maybe if you and I were supplied with an Audi E-tron GT, we would look down our noses at most other cars on offer? Lucky Bas***d!
This car is the epitome of those who know, know 😮
I have. Been driving my gt daily, taking the time to learn the car and how to use the settings is half the fun. Once setup for your style it becomes amazing.. love this car.
3.5 mins in and already Rory dishing out the REAL review on all the small things right and wrong. He calls it as it is and catches all the driver annoyances that most other reviewers miss. Matt Watson comes close with his 5 annoying things but Rory never fails. The REAL reviewer on YT.
@pumpituphomeboy : I agree... I have watched Rory's reviews on cars I have no interest in, just because I enjoy his videos.
Nevertheless, not everyone is annoyed by the same things; For example, Kia's Lane Keep Assist (LKA) is a real hate for me... I want to be able to 'ease' through a corner by touching the sideline without getting into a 'Tug of War' with the steering wheel. As for have the damned thing scare the carp out of my passengers by 'Bonging' repeatedly... HELL NO! I have tried and failed to turn this off in the menus; having to turn it off each trip is a faff. My BMW allows me to turn the steering-tugger off, and choose whether to have vibrate on, and at what level... it would never be so uncouth as to involve my passengers in the decision by yelling at them! AND IT REMEMBERS WHAT I TOLD IT!... it is my car, after all. 😡
You dont have to press the heat button. If you're in one of the auto heating modes the car toggles that on and off for you. The reason its there is to allow you to use an ambient air fan to clear the windscreen without all the power use of using the heater. I own one. It doesnt matter much in the EV6 but i wouldve killed for that feature in my 1st gen 24kwh Nissan Leaf 😂
So you have to press auto or press heat to get heat?
@@AutoTraderTV you just leave it in auto. Then it heats or cools to whatever temp you set like a normal climate control. It remembers the setting when turned off. Set and forget.
You just leave it turned on in normal situations. But if you need to maximise range, you have the ability to turn off the heat. No one complains that you have to press the A/C button to get cold air in ICE car...
Lol car reviewer doesn't know how automatic hvac controls work
I've never seen that much negativity directed to a Tesla. It would be good to see this level of scrutiny applied to that brand.
WTF Tesla is a punching bag. Hyundai-Kia group is doing great EVs but they need to be taken down a peg. Don't be a cliche and treat all brands a fairly.
The distinct difference between car producing and making bhp. Thank you Rory for stating it that way.
The turn radius is probably reduced due to the size of the electric motors, depending on their placement. Or possibly because it's using axles and CV joints from another vehicle, to save on R&D and production costs, making it difficult to optimize its turning radius, as the pre-existing parts are already a certain size.
I have a white one and I love it. This is the cheapest way to buy a supercar.
I have one. it's bonkers fast. Totally usable in just about every way. If you want to impress your mates, the GT button is the EV equivalent of Nitrous.
And if you want to go round corners and embarrass you and your mates it is so heavy I could leave you for dead in a citroen c1.......
@@adams7405 haha. Clearly never driven one. Will keep an eye out for you in your Citroen C1 though! Personally I think the Toyota Aygo is better version. Do you have the 1.3?
I love automobiles, everything from big trucks to nimble convertibles. EVs have a place, especially in daily commute duty or purpose build. But now, this Kia makes electric fun, set me up with one...PLEASE!
mine coming this month :-)
Well I’ve ordered one in black and can’t wait!
Im excited for you!
@@RiffShark007me too
Congrats, I’m sure you will enjoy it
Looks great and big power so no brainer really
Ignore the naysayers who say electric cars are “soulless“. I have had perfomance gas engine cars my whole life, but my EV6 GT has won me over. What it may lack in noise and vibration (if that’s your thing, it’s not mine anymore) it makes up for in instant, massive torque - which is its own kind of soul. You will love it.
I would go for the MG4 X Power 36 grand 429 BHP 0 - 62 3.8 seconds bargain of the century well done MG hope all prices come down prices are too high at the moment.
36k? That's shockingly powerful for the drive
Yes 36k brilliant pricing plan by MG hope all other manufacturers follow
Yeah, MG's are crazy good, especially for the money. And the Cyberster is an absolute beaut. Even so, I've always loved Korean cars like Hyundai and Kia.
Well yes, it is awesome pricing, but the MG4 certainly hasnt had the attention it needs to handle the 429bhp properly. Theyve just strapped all that power into an almost standard car and the bright orange brake covers on it, dont fill you with confidence. However 3.8 secs for £36k is STILL bonkers.
Im not sure there has been a new car in the last decade sold for that kind of money (hhmm. am I right?!) that gives so much straightline performance. Given the absolute daft EV pricing at the moment, its outrageous what MG have done there.
@SteYoung Absolutely agree with you thr MG does need more upgrades for it to be a better handling car but for straight light of the lights performance it is very hard to beat good sleeper car to pull up at the red lights in.
Thanks for being so openly critical... all your critical comments are extremely helpful and spot on!
Will that 2nd hand Porsche have a 7 year warranty? Amongst other things 🤔
When people say that’s impressive “because it’s a Kia” they still think of the Kia of old, and a bit of badge snobbery is hinted in, the company has changed, it has gone through a complete overhaul, it no longer is that cheap, budget joke of a car company it use to be, it has now become a premium brand and a big time player, it offers performance, luxury and quality to that of European brands, Kia along with Hyundai have re-invented themselves and if you think they’re still a cheap run-of-the-mill car company you need to get that mentality out of your head.
World hasn't gone mad, it's an excellent brand new vehicle, 62k is perfectly reasonable in today's economy.
I prefer manual seats.. how often am I really moving it? For me the answer is basically never, why carry around a bunch of gears and motors for something that moves maybe 5 times in the whole duration I own it?
@shovel : True, but the whole picture changes when two or more people share a vehicle. We have a Kia Niro without seat memory, and a BMW with "Comfort Access". Approach the BMW with your own key in your pocket and the door unlocks, the seat moves to your position, the door-mirrors do the same, the sound system switches to your station, the Head-Up display adjusts to your height, etc.
Just think how much complication you are avoiding! 😜 🥴
I don't understand how lazy the humanity has become. Because of the winging about manual seating and now, unpowered tailgates. Really! I love manual seating, so easy and quick. What a step backwards, waiting for electric motors.
Really; like adjusting a manual seat is just so HARD. My god.
1:46 And how much maintaining the Taycan gonna cost you vs the EV6 ? Food for thought. 👍
The manual seat surprised me when I first went to look at mine. I said “Really? A manual seat?” The sales guy claimed it was for “weight reduction”. Uh huh… but it has a power moonroof… But I’m the only person that drives my car. I set it once and I don’t touch it ever again. It’s not a deal breaker.
Same with mine. I set it up in a few seconds when I first got the car and haven’t touched it since. My wife will never drive it, she’s terrified of the car!
@@michaelc2254 Ha! My wife loves the car, but she refuses to drive it for some reason. She has an Ioniq 5. I think maybe she doesn't want to get jealous. Ha ha!
i think the ioniq 6 N will beat everything. i have a 2023 golfR performance at the moment but im ready to trade it in, in a heartbeat for the ioniq 6N. finally an ev worth it
The heat does not come on automatically when you set the temperature, because it's a thermostat. This means that when the temperature varies too far above, or too far below the temperature that you have set, it will automatically turn on heat or cool depending on the circumstance. If you set the temperature to the temperature that you want, and need use heat to get there, then you need to press heat. If you set the temperature to what you want, and need to get cool to get there, then you press the cooling button. But if you just set the temperature and leave it alone, it works automatically.
Only if you’ve also pressed auto.
All that shenanigans just to get HEAT! I'll drive my non-automated ICE donkey till the wheels fall off
On my car I just set the temp and the system then goes about it’s business without any further intervention - which is as it should be.
Truly appreciate the honesty. Valued opinions. Thanks for the information
Sounds like they need some of the Hyundai N engineers to actually do some of the dynamics on this. All that power and falls apart at the sight of a bend, even more baffling when you effectively have those engineers within your sister brand.
Ioniq 5 n is going to shit on this lol
Yes it is very heavy,quite laughable when a Tesla Y trying to show off couldn't shake me off on a B road ...I was in a 2012 Citroen C1......
In the satnav you can filter out chargers with less than 200kw power. And the ones you really want to charge at are the HPC chargers.
I received a $3750 dealer discount and another $4000 discount for financing with Kia. My OTD with taxes in VA was $3000 less than MSRP. Oh, and I am beating the 207 mile EPA range rating by 30 miles. I am confident that when it's not 98F here I can get closer to 240miles and up for range. As for finding DC charging stations, if you use Apple Car Play your charging apps and drill down by charging speed.
Nobody aspires to buy a Kia though 🤷🏾♂️ until they’re more swank it’s still a hard sell in the US IMO
@@ThisiscoolGAMES I'd put the build quality of this car against my Mercedes-Benz GLC AMG. I agree, Kia probably doesn't end up as a poster on the wall of teenagers. I wanted an EV for the performance. This thing is considerably quicker than my RS3 tuned on E85. It's a hoot!
@@sforry9332 I agree. I have one and the fit and finish is just as good as my BMW. It’s scary fast and I’m killing the EPA range rating. I have been taking it easy to see how much I could stretch it and driving mostly in Normal Mode with occasional blasts in GT I am getting 270-280 miles on a full charge. I don’t know how the EPA tested it, but it is capable of WAY more than 206 miles.
@@michaelc2254 my last charge was 273 with 8% remaining
Rory - your honesty is priceless ! Nice to have your opinions on board prior to buying a vehicle. Thank you.
For thr first time, it felt like Rory's being is a bit biased.
Nice review (as ALWAYS!) but, I disagree in that it's not difficult to wrap your head around buttons and allocation of them, once you've been in the car for longer than 10mins, or more than a one off test drive, and I 100% prefer the option of physical buttons over a one screen to do EVERYTHING, meaning I need to look away from the road to see/check my speed!
A quick FYI on the infotainment.... you can select which chargers the map shows you when you press EV on the screen. Mine is set to 100kW chargers and above - this shows only the faster DC chargers!
And it says HP next to the high power ones.
Obviously this was the shocker around 6mths to 1yr ago. Now I am looking forward to the Volvo XC30 Performance. OK it is a little smaller but at £42,000 it even comes with a panoramic roof.!!
EX30?
@MarkSmith-lu7ly Sorry typo!!
Obviously I meant EX30... too many bloody abbreviations
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The Electric seats would not only add weight they would also more than likely increase the seat height. And then Rory would complain about the seats being too high😂😂😂
So… from 2.1 tonnes to 2.12 tonnes?
@@AutoTraderTV every ounce counts..😂😂😂
You do know the r8 has manual seats to but no one complains about that
Give me mechanical seats any day of the week. My wife and I are constantly adjusting seats for each other and it takes way less time with a mechanical lever than holding a button and waiting for the seat to bzzzzzz its way into position. Pull, slide, clunk, done.
@@TheDaern If you had a good auto seat it would memorise both your favourite positions and automatically preset them based on whose key was used to open the door. No adjustment necessary. Ever.
I never thought I’d say this, but I can’t afford a KIA
Those suspensions are set like that because SUVs are inherently top heavy.. That's just physics.. They would like them to perform like a car. SUVs are not "cars". They're a bridge between minivans and trucks..
Suspension on the standard EV6 isn't that harsh plus all the weight is down low because of the battery
I would for sure buy this car. I would love dust my hardcore ICE motorhead friends with an family EV designed for going to work, bringing the kids to soccer games, and to the grocery store.
And after you'd dusted your ice friends, you'd spend the rest of the day charging it up or you wouldn't be going anywhere
@MTB_Rider_96 : This is the kind of "Buzz" people got when Hot-Hatches first appeared, just dragged into the next millenium and upscaled! 👍
Why is everyone obsessed with electric seats? They're heavy and slow. I adjusted my seats in January when I got my car and haven't touched them since. Also for the slightly slimmer driver (🤣) the bolsters fit perfectly and don't dig in to your thighs.Overall it's an incredible car, especially when you consider it's half the price of the equivalent Taycan. I agree the heating controls are a bit annoying but it's no big deal. The power is quite addictive though. Certainly for most people the regular car is probably better (and more than fast enough) but that extra grunt is nice to have. My weekend toy is a BAC Mono, and in a straight line the KIA doesn't feel at all slow, that's mental. My Porsche 997 now sits in the garage most of the time.
Hot take: manual seats >> electrical seats. Quick & easy
A word of warning… I recently bought the GT (in black) and have been driving it now for 4 months. During that time I’ve accumulated numerous scratches in nearly every area of the car. The drive is great and the performance is something else, but the paint is the worst paint on a car I’ve ever had, and especially one which costs over £60k.
I would only like that heat on/off button for plug in hybrids.. keep that engine from turning on and just give me some airflow to keep the fog off the windshield
Great review mate
You have to turn the heating on as it has to be generated via an electric heater - totally different to a ICE powered car that generates the heat regardless.
Best low profile tires Goodyear Eagle Sport ive tried out most on the market Goodyears are the best in rain and are the smoothest riding they feel like your riding on clouds all the way til theres no thread left
Beautiful car
I love the speech bubble GT badge.
Nice and honest review of the Kia EV6 GT.
Still better than anything else at that power and price ... I'd still go the ioniq 5 route though.
@hieroglyph321 : I assume you are referring to the Ioniq 5 N?
Without seeing one 'in the flesh', I really like the look of it. The Yt reviews I've seen suggest that the standard Kia EV6 is a bit better to drive than the standard Ioniq 5, but early signs suggest the Ioniq 5 N might have the edge on the EV6 GT. It will be interesting to watch progress.
@@PiefacePete46 The Kia GT was made as a GT, so fast on long straights. The Ioniq 5 N is even more special, totally different interior and exterior, more cooling for on track, more aero for downforce, more things you can customize (torque to front or rear), different interior etc etc. Albert Biermann even said it in an interview, the N is made for the track, the GT for long distance cruising,
The Ioniq 5N with 650ps will make this look like child's play!
According to Hyundai, the 0-60 time is only .1 seconds quicker than the EV6 GT. We’ll see what happens when they hit the street.
@@michaelc2254 it will be faster than that. The last two N cars have been .5 sec quicker than claimed times
@@afrikengunner 5N 11.1, EV6 GT 11.3 1/4 mile
@@andrewmcmillan8110 see that is the problem with you car babies, n is not only about straight line performance ... get ur ev6 gt meet me with an ioniq 5N I will show u what 0.5s feels and looks like then choose any track in the world let's see if u can kp up
@@afrikengunner the GT laps the Nurburgring in 7:42 and can do better with a better driver. Sorry nerd but car babies don’t have a fleet of cars like I do
Great, honest review, thanks Rory!
The EV6 GT can go 0-60 in 3.1 seconds at charge levels over 70%, as long as the weather is warm and the road surface is decent.
Great review!! Unrelatedly I hope you do a distance road trip review with the new Land Cruiser similar to what you did with the Audi estate from Germany
I have a kia ev6 gt-line and I really don't see what use 585hp would have. The car is comfortable but the number one enemy is weight. It doesn't matter if you give me 200hp more, it's still much too heavy to attack the turns well. here in Canada the ev6 GT costs around $24,000 more with lost government rebates. I don't regret my choice of the GT-line
Still waiting for my model Y P review?
Cheque is in the post from Porsche 😮
one thing I don't like about the modern cars is the digital displays . They are just square IPADS stuck on the dash. While they offer amazing features, I don't think they are being explored enough. II would like to see them more harmonized with the dash shape and with some cool 3D dials, which would resemble old stylish bezels.
I have had one of these for 6 months. You don’t need to press the heat button if climate is in auto mode as it should be. Not remotely bothered about the lack of electric seats. No idea what Rory is going on about regarding the bolster 🤷♂️. I find the handling is great (and I’ve had M cars previously). Does Rory know how dual motors work? The GT has a more powerful rear motor and you can’t direct power from the front motor to the rear one. It has similar performance to a Tesla Model 3 P (which I had before my GT - the GT is a much better car) but I don’t recall Rory saying that had too much power. Seems like Rory set out to discredit the car from the off - unlike the other EV6 GT reviews. Strange.
Whether it’s heat or auto, you do need to press a button in addition to setting the temp via the knob. Not the case on other cars.
I think you misunderstood by point about moving power front and rear. Yes it has a less powerful motor up front, but my preference would be for it to use even less of the power it has at the front during cornering (in GT mode specifically).
And ALL high performance EVs are unnecessarily fast - especially when they’re family cars whose primary purpose is not performance. The g-forces you pull when deploying the full and immediate torque are too uncomfortable to use regularly.
@@AutoTraderTV also I think this is the first review of a performance car that says it’s too fast!!!
@@carboresross I’ve said it many times in relation to EV acceleration.
@@AutoTraderTV
Auto is the default. No need to press any buttons unless at some point someone has turned it off. I last pressed one of those in January when I was trying stuff out - no need since.
GT mode partially disables traction control. If you don't like that and still want full power, you can configure MY mode with TC fully on.
Also you can get more power by using maximum power output mode. But sounds like you wouldn't like that.
KIA would not put me off these days excellent 😊
The EV6 we reviewed had the exact same seats, but electrically opereted. Kinda didn’t expect it but it sure surprised me when I saw it
I call bullsh1t. There are no electric seats for the GT. And there are no electric seats similar to GT seats from Hyundai Corp.
@@speksih I think its a case of GT-Line awd versus "GT" from this review
@@davidwolff1400 But they are not Exact same seats, the basic EV6 have no side support compared to thr GT ones. They are totally different seats.
@@speksih : The way I read it, @davidwolff1400 is not suggesting there are EV6 GT seats that are powered; rather he is suggesting that @thespeedlife had driven an EV6 GT-Line, not an EV6 GT. Unless he drove an updated model nobody else has ever seen, the seats would not be "the exact same seats". I had a look at thespeedlife UA-cam channel, but there was no Kia reviews there. BTW: I was close to buying an EV6 Long Range (Basic RWD model). The lack of side-bolster support, along with my wife finding it hard to judge the hidden extremities in traffic, killed it. We bought a Niro EV. Performance is a little down on the EV6 Long Range, but it is ideal for our requirements, and we have a BMW 330e if we need more.
Porsche promised a 1000HP Taycan in the works, I've driven the Tesla Plaid and Lucid Air, that pure EV acceleration, 0-60 in sub 2 seconds, after a few times, it's nothing more then a novelty. I'll take a sub 6-7 second EV with a 500 mile range any day over a 1000HP or sub 2 second EV. Stop giving us more power, give us range.
I agree with you on the power front, but I think range is already good enough. I just completed a 5000km road trip across Australia in my EV6 GT-line and there was only one leg where we dropped below 10%.
What the current crop of EVs need is not more power or range, but more value, refinement, and character.
EV’s don’t work the same as ICE. A powerful ICE car is burning excess fuel when travelling slowly. A powerful EV isn’t using any more power when travelling slowly, than one with much less power.
it that the base tycan you are comparing this to that is super slow?
You do know that r8 has manual seats to but no one complains about that
Really looking forward to the Smart 3# Brabus version. The interior is way better than the EV6.
They don't have electric adjustments because electric adjusting seats are notoriously heavy, it's electric vehicle and they are focusing on the highest range possible, this means shedding wait where possible. The fact that 62 Grand, and has no electric adjustment seats, makes perfect sense if you actually know what you're talkin about.
What happens if soccer mum picking up her kids from school after shopping in her high heels accidently releases 585HP kick down in front of the school, it could do some real damage whereas if she stuck to her Honda Odyssey worse is a bump onto someones rear bumper.
Seen it happen to a soccer dad
Good review as always thanks :). I think it looks epic in black and nothing new comes close for value/performance. The cheapest Taycan is 80K and probably 90K when you have added some tech to avoid feeling cheated - half as much again as the EV6. Electric seats wouldn't bother me, never adjust my seats anyway once they are set. Apart from the bolster issue which I would have to check out, it would be a serious contender for my money. Great car and great job by Kia.
Model Y Performance is 62K and does 0-60 in 3.5s ..and you get electric memory seats
A Porsche at only 1.5 x the price of a Kia is a bargin. They are not fighting in the same league at all unless you are only looking at the spec list.
@@DavidBrown-bs7ggin Denmark the EV6 top model is even 15-20% more expensive than MY Performance.
@@DavidBrown-bs7gg good point, I don't like Teslas though.
Très bon reportage ! Merci
I Have GT for 4 days... I can go for 18kwh - 100km/h - 4 adult people.
On 100%, my guess-o-meter showing 450km atm.
The fact that a humble MG4 XPower can out accelerate a Ferrari, Porsche, Aston etc has taken the joy and aspiration out of driving a 'real' performance car. EVs have taken the fun out of motoring.
And more to the point MG are rebadged SAIC cars which means all profit goes straight into the CCP's coffers.
If only people knew
Ha... I agree Ev's can take the fun out of ICE cars... especially when my Tesla out accelerates them.
It's funny...
They can't. I own a Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS and am sick of dopes in EVs who think they're driving some kind of supercar. The reality in the real world on the open road is they can't even get close to you, I rinse Tesla model S and shitty Kia EVs all day long. All they do is embarrass themselves by thinking they can stay with a proper performance car.
I'm in love with this model but the one I'm after is SOOOOO EXPENSIVE!!
They are amazing - I sold my f10 m5 for one - they are so good - quick and different -
It weighs 2t. Hardly think the diffuser is contributing much as the battery pack is pushing the tyres into the ground. Rip michelins
I can't wait for to drive the IONIQ 5N
Can't wait to order one!
I have to say .. I know it’s a Kia. And it’s an EV. But where else can you buy a car outputting those performance figures - brand new - for £60k? No normal engined car will get near those torque figures and for overall horsepower you’ll be looking at M-sport BMWs which are much more expensive than £60k new. You are paying a premium for performance. An 2023 M5 has similar power.. similar performance, but at least £115k up to £130k+ specced up.
And really, at those levels of costs, £120k + .. you’re into good second-hand supercar territory there, or even new Porsche land. That for a Beamer is a lot. As excellent and practical as M5s are.
Just drive one and you'll realise why a proper performance car costs what it does.
Alex: I bet you can’t use the word “fetching” more than once in the same video 😂
Rory: Challenge accepted.
😂😂😂 I have watched the brits use massive and fantastic 30x in one video.
YAWN, interesting until the price is mentioned again as usual with all these cars these days, maybe I'm just old but come on, when did average ish cars become as expensive as some houses?
I suppose cheapest house around here is £100k though so only 60% of the price lol.
Good review though as usual, maybe one day I'll be willing to buy something like that but right now I'd rather invest my money than to pXXs it away on overpriced cars.
On the price - You can't go quicker for cheaper! So yes, expensive, but good value !
Based on Golf/Focus/Mini prices the average ICE car seems to be around £30-40k. £20k more for an electric GT - maybe not too bad.
@@Simon_PieMan sounds reasonable when you say it like that, but it's still 60k which is a lot to me lol.
@@SDK2006b value is subjective , I would spend 60k on it if it could make me some money but cars are money pits not for profits.
@@FlyingFun. - a new Golf R with a similar interior spec to the EV6 GT costs £53k, and it’s still a lot slower & smaller, and doesn’t have the cheaper running costs of electric only.
Don’t try to tell me that that spoiler and diffuser actually do anything 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahaha. The diffuser is pushing the car down onto the tyres. No mate, a ton of batteries is doing that!
With a smooth ubderbody, the diffuser probably does more than on a typical ICE car. And the spoiler does work, it is just more about aero efficiency than downforce.
@ChrisYT1812 : Of course it does... it generates comments on UA-cam review videos... any sort of public comment is free advertising! 😜
I prefer having manually adjusting seats.
If you get confused about two simple knobs i don't know what to tell you, i'm pretty sure most people appreciate having physical knobs to control basic functions instead relying on a tactile screen for everything.
One knob for one purpose is preferable to one knob with six purposes depending on context, sir. You don’t have to tell me anything.
Agree. I have an EV6 GT and in 6 months of ownership I think I have mistaken the mode I’m in maybe twice. Besides, you can control the radio from the steering wheel, no need to use the screen. I think it’s mainly an issue for car reviewers who always seem to find something to niggle about in their limited time with the vehicle. For owners, it’s a non-issue.
I had high hopes for this, but the downsides Rory mentioned around handling, unpredictable cornering dynamics are deal breakers for me. Still looking for a Touring M340i Electric equivalent.
Ma man you can still go for the EV6 GT-line S e-AWD model... It has the power, the range, the tech and is cheaper!
Ioniq 5 N
@@canadianaviator not out yet right?
@@networkn Deliveries will begin in October. It is the only EV atm that was developed on track for track.
@@canadianaviator My Hyundai dealer told me deliveries in March, orders starting in October
Why do so many car journalist think we all wish to drive like Jenson Button …??? We are NOT Jenson Button …… This EV is great value with a bit of extra zip if required … that’s it …??
Really 🤦🏼♂️
Shock - a performance car gets tested by driving in a performance related manner 🤷🏼♂️🤣
@@SDK2006b It’s still an EV ….. The obsession with high speed cornering is ludicrous… these are family cars, most of the driving population could not handle 400Hp … all these figures are just silly …. Yes when it comes to McLaren, Ferrari, etc that’s their brand and marketing, that’s what car enthusiasts expect,but come on it’s gone ridiculous….
@@conner.9262 - it’s not really an obsession - very few 400bhp+ family vehicles are sold, compared to the number of the cars on the road.
My Polestar 2 has 460bhp and driving it day-to-day I barely use the power but Occasionally I have some fun ⚡️👍🏻
Powerful family cars have existed since the early 1990’s
@@SDK2006b No body would dispute that, but come on all these car journalist think they are Jenson Button and the driving public, obviously they are not ? I sound like I’m not a car enthusiast, far from the truth. This drive to EV motoring is crashing, the depreciation of these cars are off the scale, it’s not sustainable and there will be a big U-Turn that’s inevitable…?? My daughter and her husband recently bought a brand new Jaguar I-Pace, beautiful car, for me one of the best designs of EV at a cost over £70K not even a year ago, put her registration into we buy any car and it’s now value was just over £32K, it’s not even a year old …… the market will collapse with such depreciation…… As for me not interested in any EV, I’m happy with my 2014 Jaguar XKR convertible, does everything it said on the tin !
@@conner.9262 - depreciation : We Buy Any Car buy cars off people to sell at a higher price, about +30%, so every car they buy will much lower than the actual value.
All new cars depreciate fast in the first year, some more than others. Also, markets go up and down, depending on global finance strength. Just a year ago used cars, ICE and EV, were selling for more than new, due to the wait on new orders. It’s just a cycle.
Also, just a year ago people were complaining about high prices, now they are complaining about low used prices - what gives 🤷🏼♂️🤣
::Edit:.
You can easily get £7k+ off a new Jag iPace, so any used valuation/depreciation needs to take that into account
Odd that a professional reviewer can’t operate easy-to-use aircon controls that has been in Kia’s and Hyundais for years. This review is also inaccurate in how the aircon works as you do not need to press a heat button. As a consequence, the information in this video is highly misleading as cabin environment is such an important part of driving for most people.
I can operate it. I just don’t like it.
@@AutoTraderTV you don’t have to like it. It is your review. But nor should you include influential mis-information to support that opinion.
@@nealeTH Disagree. Most cars set their temps using only the temp selector and nothing else. This car requires a separate button, whether that’s auto or heat, to be engaged.
@@AutoTraderTV that’s not true. Kia (and Hyundai) have auto climate control which controls the temperature (hot and cold) depending on what you set on the dial. And they have zones so the passenger can choose their own temperature on their own dial separate from the driver if they wish. I have got one.
Reviewers really need get over their Kia snobbery. Hyundai / Kia are innovation leaders in EVs and their prices are extremely good for the quality they offer.
Seems there is a common trend with AWD EVs that have 400+ of horse power. They accelerate like rockets on a straight line but on corners they show their weaknesses and cant compete with cars like the i30N. The only thing where these cars are fun at, is to awe other drivers at traffic lights.
Don’t think I’ve ever seen any enthusiast say that speed is unnecessary 🧐
I found that strange as well. In fact, it’s shocking.
Have you ever felt the acceleration and torque of a fast EV? It’s incredibly violent. Accelerating alone feels like being hit by another car.
@@AutoTraderTV I haven’t but you’ve spawned some additional interest 🤔. Sounds like a good time and like I need to visit the dealership 👌
@@AutoTraderTV I have an EV6 GT, the violent acceleration is what drew me to the car. What is unnecessary to some is desirable to others.
you need to be a skilled testdriver and take the car to the limits on a trackrace to be able to point out the true performance capabilties which are not seen on the datasheet. sadly none of this is the case here.
but french automagazine l'argus did find out with a bunch of performance EVs on german nurburg ring.
-Model 3 Performance couldn't do a single lap before its batteries overheated and poweroutput dropped below 50%. Also the brakes failed after the 3rd curve.
-Porsche Taycan Turbo S went into turtle mode after the 1st lap due to overheating batteries,
same with BMW i40 M50 which also handles poorly.
While the Kia EV6 GT could finish 3 fast laps without issues (fastest 7:42...).
in addition the EV6 GT consumed 94 kWh whereas BMW and Porsche took more than 130 kWh during the testcourse.
The power of modern EVs is incredible, no doubt. 0-60 times are just silly now. But it's hard to compare to true sports cars because what you don't see on the paper stats is responsiveness under braking and cornering. EVs are great in a straight line, but they're still yet to impress in terms of feeland feedback around tight and twisty sections of road where the real fun comes to play.
Yup. This thing doesn't bode well for the Hyundai ioniq5N. The way Porsche etc make heavy pigs handle, drive and ride well is with super expensive suspension. These don't have triple chamber 48v anti roll etc etc, so ride and handle like crap.
Bravo guys. Bravo.
EV6 GT non official mark by non professional driver on nurburg ring: 7:42...😉
@pigeonpoo1823 a 160k€ porsche taycan turbo s can only do one fast lap on nurburg ring until its battery overheats and goes into turtle mode, same for BMW i4 M50, Model3 perf can't even do one single lap.
You can do 3 fast laps with the EV6 GT with max poweroutput and the I5N will probably beat any "performance" EV on the EV market
@@uludak8468 look I really want to see a positive to the EV future. We may not have a choice. But high riding +2000kg vehicles are not the answer, EV or Ice.
Eg, the e208 is quicker around a track than a petrol 208. And? It drives and rides worse because of the additional 300-400kg. Basic physics. End of.
@@pigeonpoo1823 or maybe you're not skilled enough to handle EV
For Kia. It's Kia. KIA~ so sick of it. Kia has been making great cars.
Rory needs to complete a further review. I cancelled my Polestar order for this car based on the Carwow review.
If I've said it once I've said it twice, electric seats are a complete waste of raw materials, weight, time and money!
In your opinion. Many others disagree. Depends on age/fitness etc.
@@Simon_PieMan Fitness?! Lol
I disagree with you needing electric seats when they always break and they are too heavy save the money on the electric seats and put it somewhere else.
What puts me off buying an electric car, apart from the missing infrastructure, high energy costs and massive environmental damage creating the batteries is the fact they’re now like phones, the next best thing will be out in 12 months time or less making this not only less desirable but a depreciation time bomb.
For how much longer old people are going to say "And its a KIA", "For a KIA", " Cant believe its a KIA"? I keep hearing this for the last 15 years already. Its getting old.
Get used for KIA's to be high performance cars already.
What Kia has ever accelerated like this?
@@AutoTraderTV Stinger Gt2, Optima SXL, K9 in max spec - all are very fast cars.
Much rather have a stinger, EV6 is nice but Stinger just looks special
@cornpop8260 : Stinger EV? 🤔 2025!
@@PiefacePete46 That would be nice, i can't stand SUVs and the stinger is big so plenty room for a battery, dieing breed of car :(
I bet you can adjust your seat faster manually than electrically.
I've been saying this for years,as soon that everyone starts doing EV's there will be no difference between them
There all gonna be boring compared to ice cars. No character
100% agree.The only real reason to change your ev in the future will be for a better battery and so I'm sure manufacturers will probably make it as difficult as possible to upgrade them!
From a commercial perspective, I also don't see why manufacturers will build a battery capable of 500mile range and a 500,000 mile lifespan. If the batteries are that good to start, you'd only change the car based on the interior.
I can see us all eventually in self driving pods which can be setup as an office/living room.
Driving a car, let alone a sporty car will be dead.
I shall enjoy my 3.0 turbo petrol until that day arrives.
@@KAWTELENUH there are a lot of cars with petrol and diesel engines without character. Probably the Taycan has more character than 99% of the cars on sale today
@@03Deltaintegrale you will change the car a lot sooner because of the poor quality of the interior plastics. We only work with expensive Mercedes V-class and the new ones make terrible noice from the plastics after 20.000miles
@@andreiarama8745 ummm no. The taycan is literally like all the other ev cars on the road.
If you want to have fun, most people wouldn't pick a ev.
Don't forget why ev were created in the first place "save the planet"