We bought an EV about 4 years ago now. We had one EV and one ICE. 3 years passed. We lived with it, we used it, we did long motorway journeys. We did short journeys. We did winter journeys, we did summer journeys. We drove it 30k miles. We saw what they were actually like. We now have two EVs.
I wish govts mandated that gas stations must have 4 super chargers in the US. most stations are grocery stores & should benefit even more from electric cars as we need to stay for 20-30 mins
@@aneeshmenon3379 nah mate let the market decide. Fk off with your governments. When the market decieds a winner, then it truely is a winner. Just like the model Y.
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Every time I see an electric vehicle I see someone who is fully vaccinated.
You forgot to mention your EVs are worth next to nothing because you paid for disposable junk. If you paid the same money for combustion engine cars they would be worth much much more. Not sure if you car understand you didn’t save any money but you lost a lot instead.
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@@pevvex4452 Yep. I'm running a 15 yr old Honda and my ability to go through life not needing to replace everything on a whim means my carbon footprint is far less.
@@benjimc1 I get it but it looks like you don’t drive with a ev day to day. There are always moments where you stop for “stuff” and there are chargers in place, for example if you go to Lidl there is a 75kw charger there. If your boss is to stubborn to put in charging infarction that’s his loss. He could make his company more attractive.
@Tim_Custers I have had an EV for 2 years. Had workplace charging but only in office 2 days a week, travel 35k/Yr so majority of my charging was public charging. Public infrastructure was sufficient for the first year, but by the end of it the demand outweighed the supply. Now back to hybrid however will go EV again soon as they have just put chargers fairly local to me. However I work from home permanently now and my landlord won't fit chargers on this apartment block, the BiK is the only reason I am going EV again.
Probably the most sensible and informative view of EV’s I’ve ever seen, quite unbiased and educational. Can I add, I just pay as I go on longer trips as the savings I make during my normal driving makes up for the extra charges on these longer journeys, and at home I only charge from a granny charger when at 20%
@@nsweeney3970it is a free market, you can keep driving the old school stuff indefinitely, so easily to 2040 and beyond. You might be the only one in your street, but you can. Free choice.
@@nsweeney3970What do you mean about “free market”? The fact I can’t buy a BYD EV in the US because of crony capitalism? You might have your facts inverted buddy.
I admit I was a petrolhead. I loved the feel of living the road while driving the car. 3 years, 150 K miles and 3 EV later: I love EVs. Practical, fun and easy to drive, cheap to run and maintain. Would I go back to ICE? I would put a manual, quite sporty one in my drive just to drive on sundays for good old days feel. Thats about it!
I think Petrolheads get annoyed by Ev drivers who simply use the car as a commuting tool and aren’t interested in going to a Cars and coffee meet or a spirited mountain blast on the weekend. I believe there’s room for both.
@@TIWNA851 EVs have no equivalent to a Miata, 86, S660, etc. because the simplicity and lightness of these cars are antithetical to the EV philosophy. Unfortunately, those are the kinds of cars I tend to enjoy. Which is to say that as of now, EVs aren't meant to be enjoyed; they are designed for highway commuting, not spirited mountain drives.
As a BMW 3 series owner, I never imagined i would drive an EV. When we needed to get a second car to help with the school run, an EV seemed like the most logical option (my son's school is 16 mikes away, so we do ~65 miles daily). We got the 2024 Tesla Model 3 and we've been blown away ever since. The tech, cost savings and performance are just unbelievable. E.g We've done 1,250 miles in the Tesla and at 7p/kwh overnight charging only, it has cost us less than £20. Similar distance in the 3 series would have cost £180. It's a no-brainer.
Great informative video Rory! Thnx a lot! As a driver of the Zeekr 001 Privilege I’m a big fan of EV’s. Don’t fly anymore, no more meat, no more petrol. All for the environment!
I'm 4 years into an EV, on my second EV, and I will never go back to ICE cars. - I've saved over £7k on fuel - EV's are quick, easy to drive, quiet and very smooth
I think the fuel cost difference is often understated due to the fixation on rapid charger prices. Vs. a 40mpg car, a fairly standard EV (3.5m/kWh) charged at home off-peak (which is easy to do - presuming you can charge at home - and even easier if you install a smart charger) will cost 1/8th as much to go one mile. That's £1400 less per 10k miles with a £1.40 petrol price. When you're rapid charging at a service station, and you aren't using the Tesla ones (you should! Many are open to all cars now and they're much cheaper) a 3.5 mile/kWh electric car will instead be about 25% more expensive vs. £1.40. So, about the same as paying service station petrol prices I suppose.
@@SDK2006b I am genuinely curious, how did the fuel saving compare to the car depreciation? You are on your 2nd EV, why? Was it because your lease or company car was up for renewal or was your EV losing battery performance? Again, not trying to get a reaction, genuine questions.
@@scottsteele765 - my EV’s are obtained through salary sacrifice. So I pay a fixed price for 3 years for the car, which includes insurance, maintenance and tyres.
I have a new EV and live 2 hours from a city. I do charge at home but am finding in the cold winter I can't get to the city and back without charging. The infrastructure outside of the city is not good. There is no fast chargers so planning is a bit frustrating. It will take 3 hours to get a 20% increase in charge in order to make it home on the public chargers outside the city. I appreciate and love driving the car except for the problem of winter driving/charging because of the infrastructure.
Superb job, simply and clearly explaining all things EV. Rory presented so well, he truly is the GOAT. One minor "correction" would be the time to charge on a 7 kW home charger. It actually is only 5 seconds per night. 5 seconds to plug in, and you are done. No need to stop at a petrol station on the way home. One other thing: Where did the 3.6 kW charging from a 3-pin UK plug come from? AFAIK UK plugs were found not to be good for their 13 A rating, so EV charging must be limited to 10 A. At 230 V, that would be 2.3 kW, not 3.6.
Great video thank you! I'm already an EV convert but this sort of thing really nails a lot of the queries that people considering EV's have. And those who aren't too! Honestly I would never go back now. On the rare occasion I drive an ICE car it just feels like there's something wrong with it! All noise and vibration and so sluggish!
I'm on an EV for over a year now. My wife still has an ICE car (Audi A4 252 hp). Haven't used it for some time until yesterday. I always thought it's a very nice car. But after getting used to the EV, it was just a horrible experience driving this old tech. Had the feeling it was unwilling to react on my gas pedal input. It's always the same. Once you get used to something better, what felt good until then suddenly feels old.
Awesome work Rory , complete and informative , for me i'm an ev fan so follow and hear anything you mention but is a great collection and good way to inform the rest of the world ❤
Thanks for the video. I learned a lot. But for me it's not just about climate change. Simply reducing pollution is a significant health benefit. I recently serviced my car and seeing the old air/cabin filter made me realise how much pollution we potentially breathe.
I'm the same. I just don't want an exhaust pipe near me anymore & I also want independence from those who distillate the 🛢 (& all the vampires that tax it). If that helps the climate, it's just the cherry on top.
😅 i said exactly that, I will never….in stubborn resistance because i thought they were taking away something i loved. I have now de-iced and own two, and boy am i glad i did. A lot of blind rubbish on YT so thanks to Rory for his usual engaging take on things
I want to thank you Rory for this review of EV use, I've decided to purchase my first EV and second vehicle to my DD SRT, a Honda Prologue. can't wait to experience the EV revolution for myself.
Congrats Rory for such a honest, objective, video about EV. Without sensationalism, and myth. Telling the reality that media and Tik Tokers don't tell. Thanks so much for this informative video !!!
Evs are still evolving and that is why I have waited until now. I have two cars, my 4 year old VW Polo and my KIA EV6 which I have had since 3 June 2024. The EV is a Salary Sacrifice and is more like a company car, meaning in 4 years I return it (hence keeping the Polo), and in the meantime, all maintenance and insurance is included in the costs. My commute to work is 97 miles in total each day. I have been doing this journey for 4 years in the Polo for a cost of around £280 per month. Over the last 3 months, I do four journeys in the EV and one in the Polo. The EV cost is a little over £2 per day return. In August my total cost in charging the car at home (4 X per week) was £42.97. Public charging is much different and much more costly, so if you don't have access to home charging (and this can be a 3 pin plug), then charging an EV is expensive, but my last use of public charging was mid-July. I could get away with 3 pin plug charging as long as I charge every night and I fully charge over the weekend, but I would lose miles each day, but not to the point that I could not drive or be forced to use a public charger by the end of the week. About 14 days after I received the car, I was forced to go to Manchester and back in the same day (535 miles). The initial charge was 100% at home then Public charging the rest of the way. This journey cost me around £100. This would have been around £77 in a similar-sized ICE Car. The Manchester journey is a journey I have done hundreds of times since I was around 18 years old; I am happy to tell you that despite the need for charging at no point was my journey slowed by the charging process, I plugged in at routine rest stops. Each way took around five hours which included a 20-minute stop in both directions. EV works for me and I am projected to save around £2,000 over the entire year.
One big thing you seemed to have omitted is the lack of servicing, oil, filters, cambelts, etc.. Otherwise, a great video with loads of info. Thank you,
I smile every time I drive by the fuel stations. Watching people pour £100s a week into their inefficient vehicles. I think I'm at about £3 a week in nightly electric. Octopus even offer some free sessions. Being educated has its perks.
@@Markcain268 A new BMW 320i sport is £40k (as entry a spec as I could see), and a new Tesla model 3 RWD is also £40k :) The latter is notably faster, too! If you want to have competitive performance, you need to be pushing well, well beyond what the performance versions of the EVs do, so they once again come out ahead. Batteries have dropped down in price hugely, so it's really just the European manufacturers inflating EV prices still. Tesla/MG etc. are all very competitive vs. ICE cars on initial price.
@TheComfiestChair wow, thats 80 times more expensive than my car! Amazing that people fork out £40k on a car then claim they are getting cheap motoring!
Here in France there are thousands of EVs and very very few pot holes, it has more to do with road maintenace than the weight of the cars. We have a Dacia Spring and we love it and always charge at home at night using a domestic plug.
Great video! The best analogue for charging rates are people (electrons) finding seats at a movie theater (battery's cathode). If the theater is empty, it is easier to find seats. Locating seats becomes harder as the theater fills. It is easier to sit everyone if they arrive slowly (low charging rate) than if there is a crush of people (high charging rate) when doors open. Love my used 2023 Volvo C40 Recharge Twin at 50% off new. More smiles per pound: burning rubber to save the earth! :) Highly recommend used EVs if you can home charge.
For anyone commenting that they won’t ever own or drive an EV and they haven’t actually driven or been in one…just try one. I was completely opposed until I drove one and now there’s no way I’d ever buy a petrol or diesel car again. They feel so rough and primitive to drive in comparison and unless you have a glorious V12 or similar, the noise is just annoying once you’ve switched.
@@emjbee101 This is such a good point. Your awesome Sunday drive (e.g. zooming around mountain-y B roads) or track cars are still almost certainly better as an ICE car right now. But how many people really take their cars to a track. I find a good chunk of drivers won't keep to 60 when a B road gets mildly interesting, never mind consider a track. And that's totally fine, of course, but goes to show that for the vast majority of drivers, there's no driving experience downside, and just the upside of acceleration and a smooth drive. I do think EVs are more fun cars day to day, though. There's plenty of opportunity to play with ridonk 0-60 times if you're so inclined, for example.
@@TheComfiestChair I am surprised people make point about ICE car is better for zooming around. The delayed response in ICE cars kills any joy in zooming about. Whereas with EV you immediately feel the response and can make nicer maneuvers.
EV are disposable junk even dealers don’t want to buy back because they lose value in speed of light. I guess your cars are worth absolutely nothing now. EVs drive badly compared to good combustion engine cars. Evs lose value much faster than combustion engine cars. EVs are more expensive to run with rising prices of energy and insurance. Where is the advantage of EVs ?
@@pevvex4452 how many times have you driven an EV? I’m going to guess zero? Significantly cheaper to run. Costs me £5.60 for 300+ miles of range. Insurance is the same cost as my ICE car. I bought second hand and let the value drop out. Smoother to drive, more relaxing and arrive feeling less tired after long journeys. Instant performance when you want to go quickly. Servicing cheaper as way less to go wrong. To be honest, you clearly know the square root of nothing about EVs and it shows from your reply.
Rory is the smartest motoring journalist working today. In a profession that has historically been against any sort of change he stands out. Also a great presenter.
Not a huge ev fan as a petrol head but can see their place as utility vehicles for the right people, never got my head around all the different wattage stuff but this was really helpful
Drive one, maybe the Ioniq 5N, and you will see performance ice is the Nokia of cars. Electric motor and its performance characteristics are far far far better traction solution. Torque curve is amazing. And with the fun of the 5N features, I can’t think of what you need from ice. Sure the sound… but progress means change. I’m happy with that loss.
@@Pilch9 Exactly. Electric performance cars are such a huge improvement over ICE cars, it's amazing. Better in every aspect, except for the usual suspects (range and quick refilling). If silent motors are better or worse is of course a personal preference. But I think we've been conditioned the past 100 years to associate power with that sound that ICEs need to make according to their working principle. If motors had been silent all the time, and someone came up with an engine that makes loud noise, I bet everyone would hate it.
for me silent motors are better cos as I'm reading 60 in less than 4 seconds I am alerting nobody. at night the police are off chasing an ICE going 0-60 in 7 secs 3 streets over because they are making so much noise. I'm simply stealthily zipping around.
I'm an auto enthusiast, owned many fun cars. Now I'm an EV auto enthusiast and owner of a Tesla Model 3 Long Range AWD. I love the benefits of driving EV and they aren't boring. Mine is very quick and fast enough. 0-60mph is 3.7s, 233kph top speed, and handles really well (I mean, really well). I have saved far more $$ in not paying for gasoline to close the gap on the difference between my last car and this car (even though this Tesla has more power and I like it better). I wanted to say that this was a very good introductory EV video. Note: I dislike the fake noise that EVs and hybrids are forced by the government to make. Also, many regular gas vehicles are extremely quiet as well - to the point that you may not even hear them coming when they're moving slowly. I think the forced fake noise on quiet cars should be dropped. It sometimes spoils the quiet car thing.
Hi Rory, a great informative video. However, just one small gripe; The on-screen captions don't stay there long enough to be easily read. I find myself pausing the video in order to read and assimilate the captions. (However, I do admit that they're on-screen a bit longer than the football match lists at the start of Match of the Day) !!! LOL
My first electric car is a 2024 Cadillac Lyriq. I always enjoyed the way that my mother’s Cadillac XT5 drove and I wanted one for myself because my Hellcat Charger and my Jeep SRT were complete gas guzzlers. But I wanted something bigger. I am 6’6” and she’s 5’9. My father is 6’0”. I wanted a luxury car that I could drive without having to deal with the massive gas consumption. Normally: I would have bought a Mercedes S class S 500 (rather than S580) because my father and my aunt both have one and I’ve seen how horrible that car is on gas and how expensive the insurance is. I purchased and held Tesla stock for years, but I could never bring myself to buy one of their cars because of the boring and plain interior. My Cadillac LYRIQ is fully loaded: heated/ventilated/massage seats, power moonroof, 19 kW upgraded charger, 22 inch wheels, etc. After having owned an electric car, I’ve learned a lot about electric cars and the infrastructure and the politics behind them. For me, it’s been a social experiment. I enjoy my car and I love my car. I’m actually looking forward to Cadillac releasing the Escalade iq and the VISTIQ. One of the things that I enjoy about having my electric Cadillac is charging at the public charger and meeting new people. It’s a networking opportunity that most people don’t think about. I meet married women, single women, men who own businesses, car, enthusiast, etc.
With the addition of a heatpump that big battery on the drive would come in very handy this winter... thanks for the information and your really clear way of explaining things 😎
It's also worth mentioning that even with a completely incorrect view that the grid is still like the 1970s, having that pollution happen at power stations instead of in the middle of residential areas would still be better for air quality. The fact that the 1970s were half a century ago and things have dramatically changed just makes things much better!
@@ganymede6535 we decommissed the last plant recently :) We are about 60/40 renewable + nuclear, vs. gas right now. So the idea of it coming from coal is from those woefully out of date. We get quite a lot of our power from wind, seeing as we're a blustery island clinging onto Europe.
@@TheComfiestChairnot to mention that people often forget about the fact that even dirty coal plants are going to be more efficient than an internal combustion engine not to mention all the cost of producing the gasoline and transporting it to stations
A great video and one that more people need to watch if they are unsure or have decided they 'just don't want an EV' with seeing all the benefits and how easy they actually are to live with. We're coming towards the end of our 3rd year of EV ownership, in an EV with quite a small battery (38kWh), but have managed just fine, and saved thousands of pounds in fuel costs over our previous petrol powered car; we still have a petrol 2 seater for occasional use, but would never go back to ICE for our main car. Rory and Auto Trader team are great at this stuff.
@@latsword3513 It's getting there! The first big waves of used cars are helping make it more of an option for more people too (new cars have always been expensive and depreciation heavy). Considering how expensive petrol is nowadays, and cost of living in general, it's nice for something to finally make the day to day cheaper.
Great video, congrats! 🥰 I have 8y old EV-TMS 2016. It's out of warranty and battery is still at cca 400km of range (app, cca 13% degradation). I was driving 1,5M km with ICE-s before and I' ll never go back again. Smooth, quiet, powerfull and cheap compared to ICE.🙂
Excellent video spot on the myth busting! Well done. Only thing I think you could of pointed out is EVs require very little to no maintenance like ICE cars do which is an additional cost saving benefit.
Thanks for the great, informative video Rori! It seems there are so many negative myths out there about EV's. My family just purchased our second EV. We no longer have a gas vehicle and we've been quite happy with electric cars. Evs do seem to ruffle some peoples feathers though.
Well done Rory. I’m currently driving a hybrid as a company car, but due to tax I’m definitely switching to EV car early 2025. The hybrid has given me a glimpse into the EV world and I’m on board… 👍
21:49 “EVs are heavier…”. No, they’re not: BMW 340i XDrive 1,870kg unladen & without fuel. Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor 1,899kg. So, no difference between ‘similar’ cars. Land Rover Discovery 2,718kg, Volvo XC90 2,095kg unladen. So, if we want cars that are lighter to prevent/reduce potholes (for which there is no actual evidence of causation), reduce the number of SUVs on the road.
A more apples to apples comparison would be the BMW I4, which is 2125kg vs the the lighter BMW 340i. There is no petrol equivalent to the Model 3 for us to figure out how much weight batteries in that specific car.
@@AutoTraderTV I can see why you have made that comparison, but the i4 is derived from the GranCoupe ICE vehicle, which is a massive compromise (pun intended). Many EVs have been developed ground-up and are significantly more efficient in their energy use, packaging, mass , etc. My comparison of BMW 340i X-Drive vs Tesla M3 Dual Motor was very deliberate: both ’premium’, 4WD, high-performance cars with a similar price tag. Both are excellent cars for most families. Both 2/3 the mass of a Discovery…
@@AutoTraderTVI guess the question is, why do so many legacy makers struggle to make efficient EVs (both in weight, aerodynamics and motors) to the level of the Tesla Model 3?
@@latsword3513Good point: ALL cars have gotten heavier due to safety (crash regs, etc), comfort, power, as well as the trend for larger, heavier vehicle styles.
In Australia the cheapest charging time is from 10am to 3pm (sometimes 4pm) because of the amount of rooftop solar flooding the market during the day. I charge at 8c per kWh during this time (about 4p) unless I'm charging for nothing from my solar. It's more expensive overnight (34c), and most expensive in the evening from 5pm to 9pm (75c).
A good review I think there should be a programme on all TV stations to educate people about electric cars because some sales people are selling the wrong electric car requirements to some people through lack of knowledge on both parties, sales people are not fully informed themselves which is a big problem and is contributing to a lot of the negative press around purchasing of electric cars.
@@Markcain268 Soon it will be the future of every driver. EVs are that much better. No regulation required. lets see in 15 years though. Its only the begining.
Really enjoyed watching that Rory. You explain things so well. I’ve been driving electric for just over two years now and love it! Recently had a petrol courtesy car while my electric car was in for a software update. The petrol car-premium German make- felt old and rough.
The biggest benefit of EVs is definitely the air quality in towns and cities for pedestrians, cyclists. A side benefit is less CO2. Maybe it's time for all ICE vehicles to have the exhaust output piped through the cabin before it's allowed on the street and that may get the penny to drop for the Luddites
What about the destruction to the environment needed to mine the battery elements for your ev, shall we pump those fumes and the fumes of the power plant through your cabin too?
@@msm2267 they were already being mined long before EVs came along - where were your complaints when you bought your first mobile phone or laptop that uses the same battery tech? Look up "hypocrisy" in the dictionary be cause you shouldn't throw stones in a glass house
You are just transfering your C02 to the poor people where the mining takes place with massive earth moving machines and the trucks that move the minerals to the refining plants and then on to the battery manufactureres.The the batteries have to be transported to the car plants and then the completed cars shipped around the world. So don;t be so complacent and "holier than thou" as to get your EV you have caused harmful emissions for other people in differnt parts of the world
Excellent video. I got my first EV last year. A Kia EV6 AWD, I Love it. Won't be returning to ICE cars if I can avoid it. I charge at work and have used public chargers for 2 road trips. Just clocked over 10K miles.
Great vid. Nice to break everything down and talk about all the issues around EVs and give evidence rather then just speculation about controversial issues . All tech has it's positives and negatives but on balance EVs seem like they are the way to go to me.
@@craigroberts3732 dont bother people like nsweeney are just smooth brains and rather keep paying through the nose. I came from an Audi RS.. like you.. saved massively. Also living in Aus I can charge from solar for free very reliabily.
We did the same. Replaced a BMW M50d with a Tesla. The new car was cheaper, goes quicker, has lower running cost, and is a lot more fun. Never going back. However, the main reason for swapping was our insight that we can't go on burning fossil fuels, we wanted to do our share for the environment. But after we did, we quickly realized how much better EVs are compared to the now aging 120 year old ICE technology.
Weird thing is, if you're first at the lights you can leave everyone else in your silent wake if you choose to. I plan to do this a few times, though mostly I'm driving economically.
The clue is in the name. Destination chargers don’t need to be ultra-fast as it’s somewhere you are staying at for a considerable amount of time. If it’s only an hours stop and you need a fast charge, that’s not a destination stop.
@@ISuperTed exactly, and it assumes there are destination chargers, but thats not the case in many places since a normal plug that takes more than a day and a half to charge is not really a viable option
Great overview Mark. The only thing I'd add is that constantly charging EV batteries to 100% is why they degrade faster than they need to. If you don't need 100% of the range, stick with 80% or less. EV use needs a bit more forethought and planning, but we also have numbers to work with so the planning isn't hard. This is true of NMC batteries, LFP are a bit different, and when solid state batteries come in they'll be different again.
@skyworks1621 I think modern diesels are very quiet, try a 1970's diesel for a while, then a modern one will seem like a rolls Royce, and why do you find gears annoying? If used correctly they are very useful and in my opinion add to the enjoyment of driving, I once had an automatic car and it was very boring to drive, just point n squirt, very little driver involvement, safe to say I soon got rid and bought a manual car!
@@Markcain268 The 'go' pedal in my EV gives me much more control than the 19th century idea of a grearbox. The engine is always in the right 'gear' for the circumstances, ready with instant torque , ready with instant application of just the right power to the driving wheels, and ready with just the right engine braking as required. Remember that the whole idea of a gearbox is simply to cover the inadequacies of the Internal Combustion Engine with its poor power bands and its need to protect the fragile engine from over speeding or over loading.
@solentbum sorry, I like having a manual gearbox, driven autos before and they bore me, most things that involve modern tech tend to bore me, all tech does is take away half the enjoyment in my opinion
Excellent comprehensive video. Despite not yet being EV owner (yet), there aren't too many gaps in my EV knowledge. However, it just struck me how much there is for a noob to absorb! Especially someone non tech-oriented. I can see how it could be bewildering and could perhaps explain some EV reluctance. Happily EV's are not complicated in practice & people overwhelmingly warm to them with familiarity
The big difference between mining the materials for an EV vs an ICE car is once the EV had been made sll you need to do is keep topping it up with sunshine, with an ICE car you need to drill for oil to convert into petrol or diesel for every mile it drives along the road, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out which one is the most damaging to the planet we all have to live on, even my grandkids can work it out in a few seconds.
@@GaryV-p3h And, of course, let's not forget that once the material is out of the ground, it makes sense to keep it out of the ground with recycling. Once petrol is burned, it's gone. Mining sucks, for many reasons, but once you have the raw materials above ground, they will be able to stay there.
Your grandkids are probably more intelligent than you are based on that statement. Do you realise where the lithium (a non renewable material) comes from that is in the enormous lithium batteries in those cars? Have you seen the horrendous mining and refinement process of the rare earth materials needed to make BEVS? What fuel do you think the armies of plant machinery use that pull the material from the ground….? (Diesel) Being that China make most of the batteries, what fuel do you think they use to power their factories, machinery etc? They use Coal fire power stations, the dirtiest form of fuel there is. And they use ALOT. You need to employ some better critical thinking.
@@nsweeney3970 the latest batteries are sodium (lithium free) & solid state , lithium with soon be fased out & batteries will become cheaper with more range. ICE cars will always need oil, but not too worry because in a few more years you won't be able to buy a new one anyway.
@@nsweeney3970all your logic can equally be applied to fossil fuel mining. That's the point. Critical thinking should make you widen your terms of reference to include that as mining. Nothing critical about ignoring the largest mining operations in the world (by an extremely long way) from your answer. Lithium is abundant and recyclable. Oil, not so much.
Absolutely cracking video! Dispelling myths and giving clarity to ev ownership! I owned a R35 GTR and now own a performance Tesla. Day to day the Tesla is a better driving prospect and I am a convert.
@@alexpro60798 you can have a passion about electric cars too. Theres only small number of differences. Fuel source being one thing, and the engine being another.
I understand for electric cars but why are some uk insurance companies refusing to insure them. The cost of batteries yes that might come down eventually and the time it takes to charge them but I stick to my petrol engine thank you
I think that is the key - we're so used to 'filling up' being an active thing that we assume electric cars must charge as fast a petrol cars to be as convenient. EVs will reach thay point soon anyway, but you don't want to rapid charge if you can avoid it. Plug in whilst you shop, or sleep, or fetching a coffee :) If you think about all the time your car is just... sitting there, that's when it should be charging. The rest is really just adding those charge points in one way or another.
@@jasonallatt5410 It's genuinely crazy what the price difference is if you can charge at home with an off peak tariff. Combined we do around 25k miles a year, and average around 2p/mile to do so. We would spend more than our current annual cost on our old petrol/diesel cars in about 6 weeks. Fwiw, I don't know about any major insurers not insuring electric cars. They always pop up for us on comparison sites, even if we always end up just sticking with the ol' Admiral multi-car year after year.
On my Third EV (2 Zoes and now an Ioniq 5). I wouldn't even consider considering an ICE car. EVs are wonderful to drive. Small things you notice: the lack of engine vibration through the steering column, the instant reaction off the lights, no longer faffing on pulling up to or away from junctions, always having a full tank each morning without having to go anywhere to do it, SAVING £THOUSANDS a year in fuel costs (yes, really: my first year in the Hyundai saved me £1200 in fuel). You can pry my EV from my cold dead hands.
@boothbarmy1882 no costly maintenance so far, only oil changes, and it's so much better than walking to work in the rain, if it was expensive to own and run then I wouldn't have it as I wouldn't be able to afford to run it, buying the cheapest used ev would require me to get a loan over several years at monthly payments much higher than my petrol bill and road tax/ maintenance combined, then there's the fact that my insurance would also be a fair bit higher due to the ev being more valuable than my old car.
EV cars are the same as the appliances, that the real truth. We have to accept them as they are. I love the EVs. I am the owner of a md3 Highland... Life can be simpler!
All these ranges leave me with one question. I have just bought my first e-bike and am disappointed in one thing. With gas, you fill the tank and have consistent and full power from the top of the tank to the last drop. With my bike, I have ever decreasing power from about half a tank on down to zero. The realistic range of the bike being driven conveniently is half of what is advertised based on this one fact. Is this solved to where electrics now maintain power for the full tank, or do cars, like my e-bike, still die by degrees after they are below half a charge.
I can fully ‘ charge ‘ my vehicle in less than 5 minutes, it has an absolute minimum range of 700 miles, it costs around 10k less to purchase, it depreciates far more slowly than an EV, if it catches fire it can be extinguished with relatively little collateral damage….. yeah , I guess I’m ignorant.
@@karlhulme8014millions of people driving EVs every day but of course you have the use case where it doesn't work for you. Happens with some surprising regularity in YT comments section. To broaden you mind slightly, 700 miles in my EV costs about £12 and I've never needed to 'refuel' it in 5 minutes despite doing circa 12000 miles a year. Your problems are imaginary at this point
When I was a kid and heard about the Nissan leaf being released, I thought the idea behind it was amazing, but it’d never go far enough to be actually useful. At the end of 2022, I got my first car, a Renault Zoe ZE40, which has been nothing short of a completely loyal friend. The only things I’ve had to replace have been tyres and the cabin filter. I’ve crossed Ireland back and forth multiple times, done trips like the ring of Kerry, and they’ve always got me where I need to be. Genuinely fun to drive with the instant response to the pedal, but also composed and calm when you just need to chill. Suffice to say, I’m not going backwards to ICE. ⚡️
A 50 kwh battery can run a 115 kw motor at full power for 26 minutes, not 2 hours. EV for Dummies by a dummy. A 50 kwh battery won`t charge at the full 7 kw from empty to full so the charge time is longer than 50/7.
True. Overall the video was very informative and almost all information was correct. With that said, 7kW is a low power for a car battery. The battery can most definately charge at that constant power from 0-100% state of charge. Charge power tapering off is only relevent when charging at higher power ie: >50kW.
Yeah :) 7kW to a modern car battery is like charging your phone on a 5W USB charger. The batteries are so chunky that they just don't care. Both of our cars will charge at 7kW all the way up to 100% :) I can imagine that some early EVs, or ones with tiny batteries, may have had this issue though.
To the 26 minute point, you are technically correct, but that is like running an ICE car at its rev limiter the entire time. It's an interesting maths study but not that relevant to the driving experience. Charging may be a little longer, but the car won't be at 0% to start with, ever. And you'll be asleep, so who cares!😊
I have to say Rory's comment that "you can program your car, or wallbox, to charge at night while the country sleeps" gave me pause. Living in the states my whole life, the idea that the whole country sleeps at the same time was a total mind-bender! 😂
Public Rapid Chargers are up to 350KW. Some have in small print "shared" Another considerate is temperature of the battery when it is either too hot or too cold you have to wait until it is ambient before it will kick up the rate of charge!
You can precondition the battery to heat or cool to an optimum temperature before you even arrive at the charger (the car does it automatically if you have your destination in the nav).
Yes, so funny. But the title is based on an existing book series "_____ for dummies" to teach people about a complicated subject matter who knows nothing about the topic. I myself own Calculus for Dummies and C++ for Dummies. You should not laugh or discourage those who wish to learn.
It’s true that you cannot get a manual transmission, but if you have an EV with strong regen or one pedal drive, it feels the same as driving a manual. You get the seem feel of engine braking when lift off the accelerator.
Until we can replace Li-ion batteries with a new and way better battery type and countries upgrade their electric grids, electric cars are not a viable option nor are they green.
Wrong, wrong and wrong again.. Do try to keep up. Or are you the type of person who refuses to get electric lighting because their oil lamps are good enough?
Another misleading talking point-our electrical grid doesn't need a major overhaul to support electric vehicles (EVs). In fact, the grid is already undergoing continuous upgrades. Most EVs are charged at home using a 3kW charger, which is about the same power consumption as a standard split air conditioning system. Current EV batteries are safe and meet the daily needs of the majority of users. But we’re in an era of rapid advancements in EV technology, with battery development constantly improving. EVs are undeniably greener, even when the electricity comes from coal-fired power plants. Consider the energy used to transport fuel to gas stations-burning fuel to move more fuel. When you compare using an EV to the end of its life versus an internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle, the EV is much greener by a large margin. On top of that, EV batteries are over 90% recyclable. Fuel? Not even close. Plus, EVs provide a better driving experience, offer more advanced tech, and are more convenient-you'll never have to stop at a gas station again.
They are greener. They do not emit emissions. Even using a state like West Virginia that uses 90% coal power, EVS, Plugins, and Hybrids still admit 6,000 pounds less of CO2 from using that electricity (all three are about the same emissions wise due to the electricity make up). The batteries can be recycled, keeping about 90% of the material used, reducing the amount of mining, and gas is gone when you burn, is required to transfer it to gas stations, and uses electricity to make your gas pumps work as well in addition to ICE emissions. You can also make EVs cleaner if you have solar panels, which some do. Some don't. Electic companies are preparing for the increase but it will also take time. Not everyone will switch over night. They are a viable option at this moment. While not perfect and needs better improvements, it will get better as the years go on and hopefully a better way will present itself in the future. But doing something even a little is better than nothing at all. There is a channel that shows how long it would take to offset the increased emissions to make the battery and EV compared to an ICE car. It takes a few years, but it does happen. Faster using solar energy or a place that doesn't use coal as their main way to make electricity, but it does pay itself off. And as the video said, 400,000 miles later, the tesla still had 72% of its battery. And there was no oil changes, timing belt changes, transmission fluid changes, and maybe breaks once or twice.
an excellent video Rory covering just about all bases, the only sml addition i would make is whilst ice produces CO2 which damages the planet the NoX emissions from ice damage our health, this is a more important point to me than the co2 levels. Top work Rory & the AutoTrader team 👍
An estimated 40000 premature deaths in the UK due to pollution from personal transport. Increased incidence of asthma and damage to lung development. The health impacts from ICE emissions are so important! It's worth people knowing as it drives council decision making.
But electric cars are for dummies! (Sorry to everyone offended, I am just a petrolhead salty that ev’s are on their way to replace ice because of idiotic regulations)
EVs will not replace ICE the way you think they will. It will replace ICE because it is a better alternative. Its that simple. No regulation caused me to buy it. It simply drove better than my BMW.
@@Sal3600 brother, quartz watches are more accurate than mechanical ones, but I would choose the latter all day everyday. It is not really about the way it drives but the way it makes you feel. Yes, a taycan for example drives incredible, but the lack of sound (the one from the speakers does not do it for me because it is like comparing a real steak to a soy one) killed it for me. Same with the charging time. I really like to travel, and done 40k km in last year alone. I cannot imagine charging a car for around an hour (if there is no queue) every 300km. Yes, evs are generally quicker, but if you need to go fast to have fun in a very heavy car it makes it inherently very dangerous. My main point is that the market alone should dictate what is popular and what is not, and the government should F… off our buisness. For daily commute ev are just fine, but have MUCH less soul than ice. Post scriptum: your point about ev outselling ice is inherently wrong if you see what happened to ev sales when government grants stopped.
@@Jambajoba I would have to agree 3 years before but now I think it can make sense if you get a great deal. For example a Tesla model 3, Y or a used Mercedes EQ where the price is stable now. It looks linke the prices are quite stable now and also the cars a very reliable in general.
@pereldh5741 yeah. It would look pretty beaten up, be less fuel effiecent, causing black smoke bombs, hard to start and the list goes on. I have seen it, i lived with a 2002 Nissian Sunny for 15yrs and the only thing it didnt do was cause a cloud of smoke to appear from its tail pipe. Yeah no i would be switching
@pereldh5741 the battery will still have a capacity of 70% after 10 years. It can very well last 20 years if cared for. Just like any other piece of hardware.
@@CrazzieGamer yes. I am 18 going 19 soon. Do you have a problem with what i said? Cause most people are sheep who just go off of what another person said.
@@ganymede6535 most people just like to follow trends and at the minute it’s electric cars once people realise that the infrastructure isn’t working or the next best thing comes out then people will be going back. EVs can be good for some people but majority of the uk not. People don’t have the money to buy not a 40k car. I just personally wouldn’t get one regardless of price because they are just don’t suit my needs and I would have too much range anxiety. I don’t even like turning ac on in my petrol car think how bad it would be in an electric car, I would be frightened to turn anything on and for good reason because my 300 mile range would turn into 100!
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We bought an EV about 4 years ago now. We had one EV and one ICE.
3 years passed. We lived with it, we used it, we did long motorway journeys. We did short journeys. We did winter journeys, we did summer journeys. We drove it 30k miles.
We saw what they were actually like.
We now have two EVs.
I wish govts mandated that gas stations must have 4 super chargers in the US. most stations are grocery stores & should benefit even more from electric cars as we need to stay for 20-30 mins
@@aneeshmenon3379 nah mate let the market decide. Fk off with your governments. When the market decieds a winner, then it truely is a winner. Just like the model Y.
Every time I see an electric vehicle I see someone who is fully vaccinated.
You forgot to mention your EVs are worth next to nothing because you paid for disposable junk. If you paid the same money for combustion engine cars they would be worth much much more. Not sure if you car understand you didn’t save any money but you lost a lot instead.
@@pevvex4452 Yep. I'm running a 15 yr old Honda and my ability to go through life not needing to replace everything on a whim means my carbon footprint is far less.
I drive about 30k miles a year and have no problem living with an EV . And if I ever change may car again ,it will be for another EV for sure .
do you charge at home?
@@benjimc1 I drive 65k km peer year and only charger at work I find it way more convenient than stopping twice a week at the gas pump
@Tim_Custers for sure, but not everyone can charge at home or at work. For me, distance isn't the issue, charging infrastructure is.
@@benjimc1 I get it but it looks like you don’t drive with a ev day to day. There are always moments where you stop for “stuff” and there are chargers in place, for example if you go to Lidl there is a 75kw charger there. If your boss is to stubborn to put in charging infarction that’s his loss. He could make his company more attractive.
@Tim_Custers I have had an EV for 2 years. Had workplace charging but only in office 2 days a week, travel 35k/Yr so majority of my charging was public charging. Public infrastructure was sufficient for the first year, but by the end of it the demand outweighed the supply. Now back to hybrid however will go EV again soon as they have just put chargers fairly local to me. However I work from home permanently now and my landlord won't fit chargers on this apartment block, the BiK is the only reason I am going EV again.
Probably the most sensible and informative view of EV’s I’ve ever seen, quite unbiased and educational.
Can I add, I just pay as I go on longer trips as the savings I make during my normal driving makes up for the extra charges on these longer journeys, and at home I only charge from a granny charger when at 20%
Rory is single handedly wiping out much of the ignorance that is out there to do with EVs. Bravo 👏
It’s not ignorance, it’s called disliking a product in what is meant to be a free market
@@nsweeney3970it is a free market, you can keep driving the old school stuff indefinitely, so easily to 2040 and beyond. You might be the only one in your street, but you can. Free choice.
You can always tell the bell ends who drive shitty ev company cars
@@nsweeney3970What do you mean about “free market”? The fact I can’t buy a BYD EV in the US because of crony capitalism? You might have your facts inverted buddy.
@@adam.677 you can always tell the bell end keyboard warriors who feel the need to insult people who make a different choice.
I admit I was a petrolhead. I loved the feel of living the road while driving the car.
3 years, 150 K miles and 3 EV later: I love EVs. Practical, fun and easy to drive, cheap to run and maintain.
Would I go back to ICE?
I would put a manual, quite sporty one in my drive just to drive on sundays for good old days feel.
Thats about it!
I think Petrolheads get annoyed by Ev drivers who simply use the car as a commuting tool and aren’t interested in going to a Cars and coffee meet or a spirited mountain blast on the weekend. I believe there’s room for both.
@@TIWNA851 EVs have no equivalent to a Miata, 86, S660, etc. because the simplicity and lightness of these cars are antithetical to the EV philosophy. Unfortunately, those are the kinds of cars I tend to enjoy.
Which is to say that as of now, EVs aren't meant to be enjoyed; they are designed for highway commuting, not spirited mountain drives.
@@WhatisaLee Bad take. Take a model 3 for a test drive on a mountain.
@@Sal3600 I like my cars slow and light. It's a matter of preference.
@@WhatisaLee the model 3 feels lighter than my bmw when i drive it. But yes it's a matter of preference. Enjoy the road.
As a BMW 3 series owner, I never imagined i would drive an EV. When we needed to get a second car to help with the school run, an EV seemed like the most logical option (my son's school is 16 mikes away, so we do ~65 miles daily).
We got the 2024 Tesla Model 3 and we've been blown away ever since. The tech, cost savings and performance are just unbelievable. E.g We've done 1,250 miles in the Tesla and at 7p/kwh overnight charging only, it has cost us less than £20. Similar distance in the 3 series would have cost £180.
It's a no-brainer.
Great informative video Rory! Thnx a lot! As a driver of the Zeekr 001 Privilege I’m a big fan of EV’s. Don’t fly anymore, no more meat, no more petrol. All for the environment!
You lost me at no more meat lol. One must still have something to give him the will to live 😂
@@bighit20100 Women and Beer?
@@solentbum Before you know it, they will claim both are bad also and you need to stop that as well lol. Climate crazies just overdo it.
0:10 can you tell the home owner that their gutter isn't attached.
@@SDrtheone well spotted...
You reckon that's Rory's house?😆
@@SDrtheone I can’t believe I had a look to see if you were right 😂😂😂…… eagle eyes 😎😉👍
Rory's garage, probably doesn't notice as it's the garage.
I'm 4 years into an EV, on my second EV, and I will never go back to ICE cars.
- I've saved over £7k on fuel
- EV's are quick, easy to drive, quiet and very smooth
I think the fuel cost difference is often understated due to the fixation on rapid charger prices.
Vs. a 40mpg car, a fairly standard EV (3.5m/kWh) charged at home off-peak (which is easy to do - presuming you can charge at home - and even easier if you install a smart charger) will cost 1/8th as much to go one mile. That's £1400 less per 10k miles with a £1.40 petrol price.
When you're rapid charging at a service station, and you aren't using the Tesla ones (you should! Many are open to all cars now and they're much cheaper) a 3.5 mile/kWh electric car will instead be about 25% more expensive vs. £1.40. So, about the same as paying service station petrol prices I suppose.
You can always tell which bell ends drive shitty ev company cars 😂
@@SDK2006b I am genuinely curious, how did the fuel saving compare to the car depreciation? You are on your 2nd EV, why? Was it because your lease or company car was up for renewal or was your EV losing battery performance? Again, not trying to get a reaction, genuine questions.
@@scottsteele765 - my EV’s are obtained through salary sacrifice. So I pay a fixed price for 3 years for the car, which includes insurance, maintenance and tyres.
Lol they don't seem to last long, most people buy a new one every 2 or 3 years, I've kept £500 old bangers on the road for longer !
I have a new EV and live 2 hours from a city. I do charge at home but am finding in the cold winter I can't get to the city and back without charging. The infrastructure outside of the city is not good. There is no fast chargers so planning is a bit frustrating. It will take 3 hours to get a 20% increase in charge in order to make it home on the public chargers outside the city. I appreciate and love driving the car except for the problem of winter driving/charging because of the infrastructure.
Superb job, simply and clearly explaining all things EV. Rory presented so well, he truly is the GOAT.
One minor "correction" would be the time to charge on a 7 kW home charger. It actually is only 5 seconds per night. 5 seconds to plug in, and you are done. No need to stop at a petrol station on the way home.
One other thing: Where did the 3.6 kW charging from a 3-pin UK plug come from? AFAIK UK plugs were found not to be good for their 13 A rating, so EV charging must be limited to 10 A. At 230 V, that would be 2.3 kW, not 3.6.
Thank you, Autotrader, for educating the people. Very well done and accurate info. We need more media outlets like you!
Great video thank you! I'm already an EV convert but this sort of thing really nails a lot of the queries that people considering EV's have. And those who aren't too!
Honestly I would never go back now. On the rare occasion I drive an ICE car it just feels like there's something wrong with it! All noise and vibration and so sluggish!
I'm on an EV for over a year now. My wife still has an ICE car (Audi A4 252 hp). Haven't used it for some time until yesterday. I always thought it's a very nice car. But after getting used to the EV, it was just a horrible experience driving this old tech. Had the feeling it was unwilling to react on my gas pedal input.
It's always the same. Once you get used to something better, what felt good until then suddenly feels old.
Awesome work Rory , complete and informative , for me i'm an ev fan so follow and hear anything you mention but is a great collection and good way to inform the rest of the world ❤
Thanks for the video. I learned a lot. But for me it's not just about climate change. Simply reducing pollution is a significant health benefit. I recently serviced my car and seeing the old air/cabin filter made me realise how much pollution we potentially breathe.
I'm the same. I just don't want an exhaust pipe near me anymore & I also want independence from those who distillate the 🛢 (& all the vampires that tax it).
If that helps the climate, it's just the cherry on top.
😅 i said exactly that, I will never….in stubborn resistance because i thought they were taking away something i loved. I have now de-iced and own two, and boy am i glad i did. A lot of blind rubbish on YT so thanks to Rory for his usual engaging take on things
I want to thank you Rory for this review of EV use, I've decided to purchase my first EV and second vehicle to my DD SRT, a Honda Prologue. can't wait to experience the EV revolution for myself.
I have a rather easy prediction: you will love your new EV.
Congrats Rory for such a honest, objective, video about EV. Without sensationalism, and myth. Telling the reality that media and Tik Tokers don't tell. Thanks so much for this informative video !!!
Evs are still evolving and that is why I have waited until now. I have two cars, my 4 year old VW Polo and my KIA EV6 which I have had since 3 June 2024. The EV is a Salary Sacrifice and is more like a company car, meaning in 4 years I return it (hence keeping the Polo), and in the meantime, all maintenance and insurance is included in the costs. My commute to work is 97 miles in total each day. I have been doing this journey for 4 years in the Polo for a cost of around £280 per month. Over the last 3 months, I do four journeys in the EV and one in the Polo. The EV cost is a little over £2 per day return. In August my total cost in charging the car at home (4 X per week) was £42.97. Public charging is much different and much more costly, so if you don't have access to home charging (and this can be a 3 pin plug), then charging an EV is expensive, but my last use of public charging was mid-July. I could get away with 3 pin plug charging as long as I charge every night and I fully charge over the weekend, but I would lose miles each day, but not to the point that I could not drive or be forced to use a public charger by the end of the week.
About 14 days after I received the car, I was forced to go to Manchester and back in the same day (535 miles). The initial charge was 100% at home then Public charging the rest of the way. This journey cost me around £100. This would have been around £77 in a similar-sized ICE Car. The Manchester journey is a journey I have done hundreds of times since I was around 18 years old; I am happy to tell you that despite the need for charging at no point was my journey slowed by the charging process, I plugged in at routine rest stops. Each way took around five hours which included a 20-minute stop in both directions. EV works for me and I am projected to save around £2,000 over the entire year.
Thank you for the detailed breakdown. I know the EV6 is too new to tell, but do you have any repair costs on the Polo yet?
One big thing you seemed to have omitted is the lack of servicing, oil, filters, cambelts, etc.. Otherwise, a great video with loads of info. Thank you,
Changed from a tuned 335d to a Tesla M3P and would never go back to ICE. 8500 miles done and has cost less than £200
I smile every time I drive by the fuel stations. Watching people pour £100s a week into their inefficient vehicles.
I think I'm at about £3 a week in nightly electric. Octopus even offer some free sessions.
Being educated has its perks.
You forgot your initial purchase price
@@Markcain268 A new BMW 320i sport is £40k (as entry a spec as I could see), and a new Tesla model 3 RWD is also £40k :)
The latter is notably faster, too! If you want to have competitive performance, you need to be pushing well, well beyond what the performance versions of the EVs do, so they once again come out ahead.
Batteries have dropped down in price hugely, so it's really just the European manufacturers inflating EV prices still. Tesla/MG etc. are all very competitive vs. ICE cars on initial price.
@TheComfiestChair wow, thats 80 times more expensive than my car! Amazing that people fork out £40k on a car then claim they are getting cheap motoring!
@@Markcain268 You are not the target customer. Stick to your 500 pound car.
I wished someone made this video when I went electric!! Great inclusive guide & learnt a thing or two.
Here in France there are thousands of EVs and very very few pot holes, it has more to do with road maintenace than the weight of the cars. We have a Dacia Spring and we love it and always charge at home at night using a domestic plug.
U can't afford oil😅
Great video! The best analogue for charging rates are people (electrons) finding seats at a movie theater (battery's cathode). If the theater is empty, it is easier to find seats. Locating seats becomes harder as the theater fills. It is easier to sit everyone if they arrive slowly (low charging rate) than if there is a crush of people (high charging rate) when doors open. Love my used 2023 Volvo C40 Recharge Twin at 50% off new. More smiles per pound: burning rubber to save the earth! :) Highly recommend used EVs if you can home charge.
For anyone commenting that they won’t ever own or drive an EV and they haven’t actually driven or been in one…just try one.
I was completely opposed until I drove one and now there’s no way I’d ever buy a petrol or diesel car again. They feel so rough and primitive to drive in comparison and unless you have a glorious V12 or similar, the noise is just annoying once you’ve switched.
@@emjbee101 This is such a good point. Your awesome Sunday drive (e.g. zooming around mountain-y B roads) or track cars are still almost certainly better as an ICE car right now. But how many people really take their cars to a track. I find a good chunk of drivers won't keep to 60 when a B road gets mildly interesting, never mind consider a track.
And that's totally fine, of course, but goes to show that for the vast majority of drivers, there's no driving experience downside, and just the upside of acceleration and a smooth drive.
I do think EVs are more fun cars day to day, though. There's plenty of opportunity to play with ridonk 0-60 times if you're so inclined, for example.
@@TheComfiestChair absolutely, for a lot of driving situations an EV is just a way more relaxing and enjoyable place to be.
@@TheComfiestChair I am surprised people make point about ICE car is better for zooming around. The delayed response in ICE cars kills any joy in zooming about. Whereas with EV you immediately feel the response and can make nicer maneuvers.
EV are disposable junk even dealers don’t want to buy back because they lose value in speed of light. I guess your cars are worth absolutely nothing now. EVs drive badly compared to good combustion engine cars. Evs lose value much faster than combustion engine cars. EVs are more expensive to run with rising prices of energy and insurance. Where is the advantage of EVs ?
@@pevvex4452 how many times have you driven an EV? I’m going to guess zero?
Significantly cheaper to run. Costs me £5.60 for 300+ miles of range. Insurance is the same cost as my ICE car. I bought second hand and let the value drop out. Smoother to drive, more relaxing and arrive feeling less tired after long journeys. Instant performance when you want to go quickly. Servicing cheaper as way less to go wrong.
To be honest, you clearly know the square root of nothing about EVs and it shows from your reply.
Rory is the smartest motoring journalist working today. In a profession that has historically been against any sort of change he stands out. Also a great presenter.
What an excellent video - I will be showing this to someone very elderly (my mother) as her next car will be electric (she doesn't know this yet...)
Best of luck. I don’t think the older generation are ready to change
@@rinnin if I buy it, it's quick, easy to put the dogs in, and cheaper to run... I'm sure she will adapt very quickly!
I think one of benefits of an electric vehicle is you could make your own “fuel” with solar panels and maybe wind.
We do, we got solar last year, 26 x 400W panels on our roof, and an EV this year. Our car runs on sunshine.
Had a VW ID.4 52kwh
Not amazing range but absolutely great car
Having my dual motor Model Y delivered soon!
Excellent info you crammed in there! Great stuff 👍🏼. I’m currently driving my 1st EV a Cupra Born and love it.
Not a huge ev fan as a petrol head but can see their place as utility vehicles for the right people, never got my head around all the different wattage stuff but this was really helpful
I respect people making an informed decision
It's not that difficult. kW equals horsepower, kWh equals liters of fuel.
Drive one, maybe the Ioniq 5N, and you will see performance ice is the Nokia of cars. Electric motor and its performance characteristics are far far far better traction solution. Torque curve is amazing. And with the fun of the 5N features, I can’t think of what you need from ice. Sure the sound… but progress means change. I’m happy with that loss.
@@Pilch9 Exactly. Electric performance cars are such a huge improvement over ICE cars, it's amazing. Better in every aspect, except for the usual suspects (range and quick refilling). If silent motors are better or worse is of course a personal preference. But I think we've been conditioned the past 100 years to associate power with that sound that ICEs need to make according to their working principle. If motors had been silent all the time, and someone came up with an engine that makes loud noise, I bet everyone would hate it.
for me silent motors are better cos as I'm reading 60 in less than 4 seconds I am alerting nobody. at night the police are off chasing an ICE going 0-60 in 7 secs 3 streets over because they are making so much noise. I'm simply stealthily zipping around.
Nice clear and simple video. Obviously not made to change people's mind but helpful for newbies.
I have owned multiple I.C.E. vehicles. Now I have a 2022 Chevrolet Bolt EV, and I love it! I won't be buying another I.C.E. vehicle.
That’s not a car it’s a shoebox
That's a fantastic video. It covers all the main points well, and manages to be educational and entertaining. Well done Rory.
Thank you for a brilliant and easy to understand guide to EVs ❤
Thanks
I'm an auto enthusiast, owned many fun cars. Now I'm an EV auto enthusiast and owner of a Tesla Model 3 Long Range AWD. I love the benefits of driving EV and they aren't boring. Mine is very quick and fast enough. 0-60mph is 3.7s, 233kph top speed, and handles really well (I mean, really well). I have saved far more $$ in not paying for gasoline to close the gap on the difference between my last car and this car (even though this Tesla has more power and I like it better).
I wanted to say that this was a very good introductory EV video.
Note: I dislike the fake noise that EVs and hybrids are forced by the government to make. Also, many regular gas vehicles are extremely quiet as well - to the point that you may not even hear them coming when they're moving slowly. I think the forced fake noise on quiet cars should be dropped. It sometimes spoils the quiet car thing.
Which "fun" combustion cars have you owned out of interest?
How does yours go from 0-60 in 3.7s? this is not true. I have one and it does not go that quick unless you have the performance model.
@@nsweeney3970 hot hatches.
Hi Rory, a great informative video. However, just one small gripe; The on-screen captions don't stay there long enough to be easily read. I find myself pausing the video in order to read and assimilate the captions. (However, I do admit that they're on-screen a bit longer than the football match lists at the start of Match of the Day) !!! LOL
You can slow down the video playback
My first electric car is a 2024 Cadillac Lyriq.
I always enjoyed the way that my mother’s Cadillac XT5 drove and I wanted one for myself because my Hellcat Charger and my Jeep SRT were complete gas guzzlers.
But I wanted something bigger. I am 6’6” and she’s 5’9. My father is 6’0”.
I wanted a luxury car that I could drive without having to deal with the massive gas consumption. Normally: I would have bought a Mercedes S class S 500 (rather than S580) because my father and my aunt both have one and I’ve seen how horrible that car is on gas and how expensive the insurance is.
I purchased and held Tesla stock for years, but I could never bring myself to buy one of their cars because of the boring and plain interior.
My Cadillac LYRIQ is fully loaded: heated/ventilated/massage seats, power moonroof, 19 kW upgraded charger, 22 inch wheels, etc.
After having owned an electric car, I’ve learned a lot about electric cars and the infrastructure and the politics behind them. For me, it’s been a social experiment. I enjoy my car and I love my car. I’m actually looking forward to Cadillac releasing the Escalade iq and the VISTIQ.
One of the things that I enjoy about having my electric Cadillac is charging at the public charger and meeting new people. It’s a networking opportunity that most people don’t think about.
I meet married women, single women, men who own businesses, car, enthusiast, etc.
If you're not in the US and have access to BYD, consider the Tang along with those Cadillacs. You might be surprised.
Those lyriqs are great looking suvs.
With the addition of a heatpump that big battery on the drive would come in very handy this winter... thanks for the information and your really clear way of explaining things 😎
the "start cleaning the room" analogy was perfect in answering the point of "but electricity comes from coal"
It's also worth mentioning that even with a completely incorrect view that the grid is still like the 1970s, having that pollution happen at power stations instead of in the middle of residential areas would still be better for air quality.
The fact that the 1970s were half a century ago and things have dramatically changed just makes things much better!
From what i heard the brits barely use coal
@@ganymede6535 we decommissed the last plant recently :) We are about 60/40 renewable + nuclear, vs. gas right now. So the idea of it coming from coal is from those woefully out of date.
We get quite a lot of our power from wind, seeing as we're a blustery island clinging onto Europe.
@@TheComfiestChair thank you for proving my point
@@TheComfiestChairnot to mention that people often forget about the fact that even dirty coal plants are going to be more efficient than an internal combustion engine not to mention all the cost of producing the gasoline and transporting it to stations
A great video and one that more people need to watch if they are unsure or have decided they 'just don't want an EV' with seeing all the benefits and how easy they actually are to live with.
We're coming towards the end of our 3rd year of EV ownership, in an EV with quite a small battery (38kWh), but have managed just fine, and saved thousands of pounds in fuel costs over our previous petrol powered car; we still have a petrol 2 seater for occasional use, but would never go back to ICE for our main car.
Rory and Auto Trader team are great at this stuff.
Well done Rory. It’s a good explanation despite some of the puerile comments!
However compared to 1 year ago when he made his last video myth busting ev's there's a big change.
@@latsword3513 It's getting there! The first big waves of used cars are helping make it more of an option for more people too (new cars have always been expensive and depreciation heavy).
Considering how expensive petrol is nowadays, and cost of living in general, it's nice for something to finally make the day to day cheaper.
Great video, congrats! 🥰
I have 8y old EV-TMS 2016. It's out of warranty and battery is still at cca 400km of range (app, cca 13% degradation). I was driving 1,5M km with ICE-s before and I' ll never go back again. Smooth, quiet, powerfull and cheap compared to ICE.🙂
Excellent video spot on the myth busting! Well done. Only thing I think you could of pointed out is EVs require very little to no maintenance like ICE cars do which is an additional cost saving benefit.
Sir! I absolutely love the way you prepare and present these videos! Thank you!
At last a clear and easy for all to understand what EV cars are all about! A brilliant job done by Rory and his team!!
Thanks for the great, informative video Rori! It seems there are so many negative myths out there about EV's. My family just purchased our second EV. We no longer have a gas vehicle and we've been quite happy with electric cars. Evs do seem to ruffle some peoples feathers though.
I’ve had ICE, HEV, PHEV and now EV. There is no way I’m going back to ICE… Hydrocarbons are so last century.
Electric is sooo modern, actually it predates ice 😂
@@Markcain268 not development wise. We’ve hit peak ICE.
@@Markcain268 Its true that EVs came out more than 100 years ago but current EVs shit on ICE.
Well done Rory. I’m currently driving a hybrid as a company car, but due to tax I’m definitely switching to EV car early 2025. The hybrid has given me a glimpse into the EV world and I’m on board… 👍
21:49 “EVs are heavier…”. No, they’re not: BMW 340i XDrive 1,870kg unladen & without fuel. Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor 1,899kg. So, no difference between ‘similar’ cars. Land Rover Discovery 2,718kg, Volvo XC90 2,095kg unladen. So, if we want cars that are lighter to prevent/reduce potholes (for which there is no actual evidence of causation), reduce the number of SUVs on the road.
A more apples to apples comparison would be the BMW I4, which is 2125kg vs the the lighter BMW 340i. There is no petrol equivalent to the Model 3 for us to figure out how much weight batteries in that specific car.
@@AutoTraderTV I can see why you have made that comparison, but the i4 is derived from the GranCoupe ICE vehicle, which is a massive compromise (pun intended). Many EVs have been developed ground-up and are significantly more efficient in their energy use, packaging, mass , etc. My comparison of BMW 340i X-Drive vs Tesla M3 Dual Motor was very deliberate: both ’premium’, 4WD, high-performance cars with a similar price tag. Both are excellent cars for most families. Both 2/3 the mass of a Discovery…
@@AutoTraderTVI guess the question is, why do so many legacy makers struggle to make efficient EVs (both in weight, aerodynamics and motors) to the level of the Tesla Model 3?
Irrespective of drive train most car makers have moved towards heavier, bigger models. The trend will only shift if SUV sales decline
@@latsword3513Good point: ALL cars have gotten heavier due to safety (crash regs, etc), comfort, power, as well as the trend for larger, heavier vehicle styles.
In Australia the cheapest charging time is from 10am to 3pm (sometimes 4pm) because of the amount of rooftop solar flooding the market during the day. I charge at 8c per kWh during this time (about 4p) unless I'm charging for nothing from my solar. It's more expensive overnight (34c), and most expensive in the evening from 5pm to 9pm (75c).
Really good over view and explanation. Loved it.
A good review I think there should be a programme on all TV stations to educate people about electric cars because some sales people are selling the wrong electric car requirements to some people through lack of knowledge on both parties, sales people are not fully informed themselves which is a big problem and is contributing to a lot of the negative press around purchasing of electric cars.
well done, so many idiotic click baiting anti EV videos on UA-cam, EVs are the future.
Not everyone's future, only 18% of the world population actually have a car.
@@Markcain268 Soon it will be the future of every driver. EVs are that much better. No regulation required. lets see in 15 years though. Its only the begining.
There's a crazy number of UA-cam channels that do literally nothing but anti-EV stuff. I can only presume they're well-funded from the oil lobby.
There are a huge number of channels that do literally nothing but anti-EV stories. Wonder who funds them...
Not the future. EVs are here now.
Really enjoyed watching that Rory. You explain things so well. I’ve been driving electric for just over two years now and love it! Recently had a petrol courtesy car while my electric car was in for a software update. The petrol car-premium German make- felt old and rough.
The biggest benefit of EVs is definitely the air quality in towns and cities for pedestrians, cyclists. A side benefit is less CO2. Maybe it's time for all ICE vehicles to have the exhaust output piped through the cabin before it's allowed on the street and that may get the penny to drop for the Luddites
Very fair if you ask me
What about the destruction to the environment needed to mine the battery elements for your ev, shall we pump those fumes and the fumes of the power plant through your cabin too?
@@msm2267 they were already being mined long before EVs came along - where were your complaints when you bought your first mobile phone or laptop that uses the same battery tech? Look up "hypocrisy" in the dictionary be cause you shouldn't throw stones in a glass house
You are just transfering your C02 to the poor people where the mining takes place with massive earth moving machines and the trucks that move the minerals to the refining plants and then on to the battery manufactureres.The the batteries have to be transported to the car plants and then the completed cars shipped around the world. So don;t be so complacent and "holier than thou" as to get your EV you have caused harmful emissions for other people in differnt parts of the world
@@msm2267 as they'll soon be using EV mining rucks, not an issue. ALL mining is destructive and virtually everything you own contains mined elements.
Excellent video. I got my first EV last year. A Kia EV6 AWD, I Love it. Won't be returning to ICE cars if I can avoid it. I charge at work and have used public chargers for 2 road trips. Just clocked over 10K miles.
do I own an EV? - yes. did I still watch the whole video? - YES
Great vid. Nice to break everything down and talk about all the issues around EVs and give evidence rather then just speculation about controversial issues . All tech has it's positives and negatives but on balance EVs seem like they are the way to go to me.
Sold my bmw m cars and bought an EV, I save a fortune and it’s a much more refined driving experience. EV is the perfect daily driver!
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@@nsweeney3970 go drive one and you’ll see what I mean
@@craigroberts3732 dont bother people like nsweeney are just smooth brains and rather keep paying through the nose. I came from an Audi RS.. like you.. saved massively. Also living in Aus I can charge from solar for free very reliabily.
@@z00fbar you're right. I'm sure you and I both enjoy ICE cars but for daily driving an EV is a no brainer
We did the same. Replaced a BMW M50d with a Tesla. The new car was cheaper, goes quicker, has lower running cost, and is a lot more fun. Never going back. However, the main reason for swapping was our insight that we can't go on burning fossil fuels, we wanted to do our share for the environment. But after we did, we quickly realized how much better EVs are compared to the now aging 120 year old ICE technology.
"They're boring"
Yep, when I'm driving to the shops or work it's not fun unless I can do a few burnouts and power slides on the way.
Weird thing is, if you're first at the lights you can leave everyone else in your silent wake if you choose to. I plan to do this a few times, though mostly I'm driving economically.
8:50 that is assuming you can charge at your destination at a fast rate
The clue is in the name. Destination chargers don’t need to be ultra-fast as it’s somewhere you are staying at for a considerable amount of time. If it’s only an hours stop and you need a fast charge, that’s not a destination stop.
@@ISuperTed exactly, and it assumes there are destination chargers, but thats not the case in many places since a normal plug that takes more than a day and a half to charge is not really a viable option
Great overview Mark. The only thing I'd add is that constantly charging EV batteries to 100% is why they degrade faster than they need to. If you don't need 100% of the range, stick with 80% or less. EV use needs a bit more forethought and planning, but we also have numbers to work with so the planning isn't hard.
This is true of NMC batteries, LFP are a bit different, and when solid state batteries come in they'll be different again.
Absolutely perfect~
These is the gold standard, for how a responsible Auto review UA-camr should be. 👍👍👍
Thanks for the heads up, man! Great video. 😊👍🏽
I have been driving an EV for the last 3 years and I love it. So much better to drive no more loud diesel engine and annoying gears.
Don't forget about the stinky smells...
Which is great as a commuting tool. No problem with that. But I still want a Lotus Elise or 911 in the garage for weekends.
@skyworks1621 I think modern diesels are very quiet, try a 1970's diesel for a while, then a modern one will seem like a rolls Royce, and why do you find gears annoying? If used correctly they are very useful and in my opinion add to the enjoyment of driving, I once had an automatic car and it was very boring to drive, just point n squirt, very little driver involvement, safe to say I soon got rid and bought a manual car!
@@Markcain268 The 'go' pedal in my EV gives me much more control than the 19th century idea of a grearbox. The engine is always in the right 'gear' for the circumstances, ready with instant torque , ready with instant application of just the right power to the driving wheels, and ready with just the right engine braking as required.
Remember that the whole idea of a gearbox is simply to cover the inadequacies of the Internal Combustion Engine with its poor power bands and its need to protect the fragile engine from over speeding or over loading.
@solentbum sorry, I like having a manual gearbox, driven autos before and they bore me, most things that involve modern tech tend to bore me, all tech does is take away half the enjoyment in my opinion
Excellent comprehensive video. Despite not yet being EV owner (yet), there aren't too many gaps in my EV knowledge. However, it just struck me how much there is for a noob to absorb! Especially someone non tech-oriented.
I can see how it could be bewildering and could perhaps explain some EV reluctance. Happily EV's are not complicated in practice & people overwhelmingly warm to them with familiarity
The big difference between mining the materials for an EV vs an ICE car is once the EV had been made sll you need to do is keep topping it up with sunshine, with an ICE car you need to drill for oil to convert into petrol or diesel for every mile it drives along the road, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out which one is the most damaging to the planet we all have to live on, even my grandkids can work it out in a few seconds.
@@GaryV-p3h And, of course, let's not forget that once the material is out of the ground, it makes sense to keep it out of the ground with recycling. Once petrol is burned, it's gone.
Mining sucks, for many reasons, but once you have the raw materials above ground, they will be able to stay there.
My young grandkids seem to get it, my adult son not so much
Your grandkids are probably more intelligent than you are based on that statement. Do you realise where the lithium (a non renewable material) comes from that is in the enormous lithium batteries in those cars? Have you seen the horrendous mining and refinement process of the rare earth materials needed to make BEVS?
What fuel do you think the armies of plant machinery use that pull the material from the ground….? (Diesel)
Being that China make most of the batteries, what fuel do you think they use to power their factories, machinery etc? They use Coal fire power stations, the dirtiest form of fuel there is. And they use ALOT. You need to employ some better critical thinking.
@@nsweeney3970 the latest batteries are sodium (lithium free) & solid state , lithium with soon be fased out & batteries will become cheaper with more range. ICE cars will always need oil, but not too worry because in a few more years you won't be able to buy a new one anyway.
@@nsweeney3970all your logic can equally be applied to fossil fuel mining. That's the point. Critical thinking should make you widen your terms of reference to include that as mining. Nothing critical about ignoring the largest mining operations in the world (by an extremely long way) from your answer. Lithium is abundant and recyclable. Oil, not so much.
Absolutely cracking video! Dispelling myths and giving clarity to ev ownership! I owned a R35 GTR and now own a performance Tesla. Day to day the Tesla is a better driving prospect and I am a convert.
Everyone prepare for the inevitable "I wIlL nEvEr BuY aN eLeCtRiC cAr!!!1" comments.
Well personally i won't but they're cool, no denying that.
Well sorry for having a passion about cars 🙄
I would love to. But I will not until we can move away from Li-ion batteries and until countries won't upgrade their grids.
"Life is full of disappointments and I just added you to the list."
@@alexpro60798 you can have a passion about electric cars too. Theres only small number of differences. Fuel source being one thing, and the engine being another.
Great work! This video addresses just about all of the most common questions I get from non-EV owners and the EV-curious and then some!
I understand for electric cars but why are some uk insurance companies refusing to insure them.
The cost of batteries yes that might come down eventually and the time it takes to charge them but I stick to my petrol engine thank you
because lack of data. The insurance costs are too much right now.
The price is down already, and getting cheaper.. Why worry about charge-time, when you're in bed asleep, or at work, or shopping? No worries!
I think that is the key - we're so used to 'filling up' being an active thing that we assume electric cars must charge as fast a petrol cars to be as convenient.
EVs will reach thay point soon anyway, but you don't want to rapid charge if you can avoid it. Plug in whilst you shop, or sleep, or fetching a coffee :) If you think about all the time your car is just... sitting there, that's when it should be charging. The rest is really just adding those charge points in one way or another.
You keep on paying through the roof for petrel. Makes perfect sense. 😳
@@jasonallatt5410 It's genuinely crazy what the price difference is if you can charge at home with an off peak tariff. Combined we do around 25k miles a year, and average around 2p/mile to do so. We would spend more than our current annual cost on our old petrol/diesel cars in about 6 weeks.
Fwiw, I don't know about any major insurers not insuring electric cars. They always pop up for us on comparison sites, even if we always end up just sticking with the ol' Admiral multi-car year after year.
Well done, a balanced and factual video from a mainstream car channel. Great job.
On my Third EV (2 Zoes and now an Ioniq 5).
I wouldn't even consider considering an ICE car. EVs are wonderful to drive. Small things you notice: the lack of engine vibration through the steering column, the instant reaction off the lights, no longer faffing on pulling up to or away from junctions, always having a full tank each morning without having to go anywhere to do it, SAVING £THOUSANDS a year in fuel costs (yes, really: my first year in the Hyundai saved me £1200 in fuel).
You can pry my EV from my cold dead hands.
Same here. My Tesla Model 3 rwd saved me $3,600 last year just in fuel costs.
@That-Guy_ my £500 ford focus has saved me £1000s in depreciation over the past 3 years🎉🎉
@@Markcain268
Depreciation is an issue for those that get a new car every 3 or 4 years. I will have my Tesla for 10+ years.
@@Markcain268that's great if you're happy driving a £500 car and not worry about costly maintenance it may need.
@boothbarmy1882 no costly maintenance so far, only oil changes, and it's so much better than walking to work in the rain, if it was expensive to own and run then I wouldn't have it as I wouldn't be able to afford to run it, buying the cheapest used ev would require me to get a loan over several years at monthly payments much higher than my petrol bill and road tax/ maintenance combined, then there's the fact that my insurance would also be a fair bit higher due to the ev being more valuable than my old car.
Brilliant feature containing so much basic and really useful to know facts. I Need to watch a few times to capture all the info. 😅
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EV cars are the same as the appliances, that the real truth. We have to accept them as they are. I love the EVs. I am the owner of a md3 Highland... Life can be simpler!
A lot of people get cold feet thinking about it?
All these ranges leave me with one question. I have just bought my first e-bike and am disappointed in one thing. With gas, you fill the tank and have consistent and full power from the top of the tank to the last drop.
With my bike, I have ever decreasing power from about half a tank on down to zero.
The realistic range of the bike being driven conveniently is half of what is advertised based on this one fact.
Is this solved to where electrics now maintain power for the full tank, or do cars, like my e-bike, still die by degrees after they are below half a charge.
Just a matter of time until they make us pay subscriptions to run our cars. Saving the environment is total bs
Thank you mate for the effort put in explaining all the charging terminologies and different types of chargers. great video✌
The whining anti EV gang are loud in their ignorance! 🙄
I can fully ‘ charge ‘ my vehicle in less than 5 minutes, it has an absolute minimum range of 700 miles, it costs around 10k less to purchase, it depreciates far more slowly than an EV, if it catches fire it can be extinguished with relatively little collateral damage….. yeah , I guess I’m ignorant.
EVs 4 DUMMIES! V8 for normal
@@karlhulme8014 are you a whining anti ev gang member? if no, then you are not ignorant. or maybe you are who knows.
@@artureff3046 normal people cant tell between a v8 and a v6.
@@karlhulme8014millions of people driving EVs every day but of course you have the use case where it doesn't work for you. Happens with some surprising regularity in YT comments section. To broaden you mind slightly, 700 miles in my EV costs about £12 and I've never needed to 'refuel' it in 5 minutes despite doing circa 12000 miles a year. Your problems are imaginary at this point
When I was a kid and heard about the Nissan leaf being released, I thought the idea behind it was amazing, but it’d never go far enough to be actually useful.
At the end of 2022, I got my first car, a Renault Zoe ZE40, which has been nothing short of a completely loyal friend. The only things I’ve had to replace have been tyres and the cabin filter. I’ve crossed Ireland back and forth multiple times, done trips like the ring of Kerry, and they’ve always got me where I need to be. Genuinely fun to drive with the instant response to the pedal, but also composed and calm when you just need to chill. Suffice to say, I’m not going backwards to ICE. ⚡️
If you've never owned an ice car how can you say that?
@@Markcain268 Easily! I’ve driven a fair few ICE cars before, they just didn’t belong to me, of course.
@@FluffyArcheops manual gearbox ice?
@@Markcain268 Yes, petrols and diesels. Only auto was a hybrid though.
@FluffyArcheops but never owned one so can't really comment on things like maintenance, long term costs etc
A 50 kwh battery can run a 115 kw motor at full power for 26 minutes, not 2 hours. EV for Dummies by a dummy. A 50 kwh battery won`t charge at the full 7 kw from empty to full so the charge time is longer than 50/7.
True. Overall the video was very informative and almost all information was correct. With that said, 7kW is a low power for a car battery. The battery can most definately charge at that constant power from 0-100% state of charge. Charge power tapering off is only relevent when charging at higher power ie: >50kW.
Yeah :) 7kW to a modern car battery is like charging your phone on a 5W USB charger. The batteries are so chunky that they just don't care. Both of our cars will charge at 7kW all the way up to 100% :)
I can imagine that some early EVs, or ones with tiny batteries, may have had this issue though.
To the 26 minute point, you are technically correct, but that is like running an ICE car at its rev limiter the entire time. It's an interesting maths study but not that relevant to the driving experience.
Charging may be a little longer, but the car won't be at 0% to start with, ever. And you'll be asleep, so who cares!😊
I have to say Rory's comment that "you can program your car, or wallbox, to charge at night while the country sleeps" gave me pause. Living in the states my whole life, the idea that the whole country sleeps at the same time was a total mind-bender! 😂
Coming soon to a dealership nearby, Porsche-style "buy 2 EVs before we let you buy a proper car".😂
like a rimac?
Public Rapid Chargers are up to 350KW. Some have in small print "shared" Another considerate is temperature of the battery when it is either too hot or too cold you have to wait until it is ambient before it will kick up the rate of charge!
You can precondition the battery to heat or cool to an optimum temperature before you even arrive at the charger (the car does it automatically if you have your destination in the nav).
“ Electric cars for dummies “ ….. not gonna argue with that title.
Totally intended. 😂
3:50 Kilowatts is a sensible unit of power. Horsepower on the other hand….. 😂
@@summertyme5748 are you saying that’s the big selling point of EVs ?
Yes, this is actually the very best and most informative video about EV ownership. So much better than any and all of the others.
I saw the title “Electric cars for dummies “ and thought…..Correct !
Yes, so funny. But the title is based on an existing book series "_____ for dummies" to teach people about a complicated subject matter who knows nothing about the topic. I myself own Calculus for Dummies and C++ for Dummies. You should not laugh or discourage those who wish to learn.
@@Alphasnowbordergirl fair comment
It’s true that you cannot get a manual transmission, but if you have an EV with strong regen or one pedal drive, it feels the same as driving a manual. You get the seem feel of engine braking when lift off the accelerator.
Until we can replace Li-ion batteries with a new and way better battery type and countries upgrade their electric grids, electric cars are not a viable option nor are they green.
Wrong, wrong and wrong again.. Do try to keep up. Or are you the type of person who refuses to get electric lighting because their oil lamps are good enough?
Another misleading talking point-our electrical grid doesn't need a major overhaul to support electric vehicles (EVs). In fact, the grid is already undergoing continuous upgrades. Most EVs are charged at home using a 3kW charger, which is about the same power consumption as a standard split air conditioning system.
Current EV batteries are safe and meet the daily needs of the majority of users. But we’re in an era of rapid advancements in EV technology, with battery development constantly improving.
EVs are undeniably greener, even when the electricity comes from coal-fired power plants. Consider the energy used to transport fuel to gas stations-burning fuel to move more fuel. When you compare using an EV to the end of its life versus an internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle, the EV is much greener by a large margin.
On top of that, EV batteries are over 90% recyclable. Fuel? Not even close.
Plus, EVs provide a better driving experience, offer more advanced tech, and are more convenient-you'll never have to stop at a gas station again.
Do you still use a fax machine?
If not why not? I'm sure you'd state it was more reliable than email.
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@@raffiefoxmew3691 Very stupid argument and has nothing to do with EVs.
They are greener. They do not emit emissions. Even using a state like West Virginia that uses 90% coal power, EVS, Plugins, and Hybrids still admit 6,000 pounds less of CO2 from using that electricity (all three are about the same emissions wise due to the electricity make up). The batteries can be recycled, keeping about 90% of the material used, reducing the amount of mining, and gas is gone when you burn, is required to transfer it to gas stations, and uses electricity to make your gas pumps work as well in addition to ICE emissions. You can also make EVs cleaner if you have solar panels, which some do. Some don't. Electic companies are preparing for the increase but it will also take time. Not everyone will switch over night. They are a viable option at this moment. While not perfect and needs better improvements, it will get better as the years go on and hopefully a better way will present itself in the future. But doing something even a little is better than nothing at all. There is a channel that shows how long it would take to offset the increased emissions to make the battery and EV compared to an ICE car. It takes a few years, but it does happen. Faster using solar energy or a place that doesn't use coal as their main way to make electricity, but it does pay itself off. And as the video said, 400,000 miles later, the tesla still had 72% of its battery. And there was no oil changes, timing belt changes, transmission fluid changes, and maybe breaks once or twice.
an excellent video Rory covering just about all bases, the only sml addition i would make is whilst ice produces CO2 which damages the planet the NoX emissions from ice damage our health, this is a more important point to me than the co2 levels. Top work Rory & the AutoTrader team 👍
An estimated 40000 premature deaths in the UK due to pollution from personal transport. Increased incidence of asthma and damage to lung development. The health impacts from ICE emissions are so important! It's worth people knowing as it drives council decision making.
But electric cars are for dummies!
(Sorry to everyone offended, I am just a petrolhead salty that ev’s are on their way to replace ice because of idiotic regulations)
Ever driven one or even sat in one?!
They aren't going to replace petrol cars, hybrids will. More people own hybrids than EV's in the UK.
EVs will not replace ICE the way you think they will. It will replace ICE because it is a better alternative. Its that simple. No regulation caused me to buy it. It simply drove better than my BMW.
Or are you the type of person who refuses to get electric lighting because their oil lamps are good enough?
@@Sal3600 brother, quartz watches are more accurate than mechanical ones, but I would choose the latter all day everyday. It is not really about the way it drives but the way it makes you feel. Yes, a taycan for example drives incredible, but the lack of sound (the one from the speakers does not do it for me because it is like comparing a real steak to a soy one) killed it for me. Same with the charging time. I really like to travel, and done 40k km in last year alone. I cannot imagine charging a car for around an hour (if there is no queue) every 300km. Yes, evs are generally quicker, but if you need to go fast to have fun in a very heavy car it makes it inherently very dangerous.
My main point is that the market alone should dictate what is popular and what is not, and the government should F… off our buisness. For daily commute ev are just fine, but have MUCH less soul than ice.
Post scriptum: your point about ev outselling ice is inherently wrong if you see what happened to ev sales when government grants stopped.
This is a really great video. Full of information and knowledge i needed. I enjoy every singke seconds watching this video
Lease them, never buy them.
@@Jambajoba I would have to agree 3 years before but now I think it can make sense if you get a great deal. For example a Tesla model 3, Y or a used Mercedes EQ where the price is stable now.
It looks linke the prices are quite stable now and also the cars a very reliable in general.
@pereldh5741 a motor outlasts an internal combustion engine.
@pereldh5741the battery pack last up to 10-12 years where most people would be swiching out their car anyways
@pereldh5741 yeah. It would look pretty beaten up, be less fuel effiecent, causing black smoke bombs, hard to start and the list goes on. I have seen it, i lived with a 2002 Nissian Sunny for 15yrs and the only thing it didnt do was cause a cloud of smoke to appear from its tail pipe. Yeah no i would be switching
@pereldh5741 the battery will still have a capacity of 70% after 10 years. It can very well last 20 years if cared for. Just like any other piece of hardware.
This was very informative. Thank you and please keep it up.
That’s right - electric cars ARE for dummies 😂😂😂
Great stuff Rory, very interesting and informative.
“World EV day” there is a day for everything worlds gone mad. But anyway stick with an ICE car
In your opinion. Pick a car of your choosing dont pick ICE just because someone told you to pick a car that you would want and drive
@@ganymede6535 are you even old enough to drive?
@@CrazzieGamer yes. I am 18 going 19 soon. Do you have a problem with what i said? Cause most people are sheep who just go off of what another person said.
@@ganymede6535 most people just like to follow trends and at the minute it’s electric cars once people realise that the infrastructure isn’t working or the next best thing comes out then people will be going back. EVs can be good for some people but majority of the uk not. People don’t have the money to buy not a 40k car. I just personally wouldn’t get one regardless of price because they are just don’t suit my needs and I would have too much range anxiety. I don’t even like turning ac on in my petrol car think how bad it would be in an electric car, I would be frightened to turn anything on and for good reason because my 300 mile range would turn into 100!
An excellent video. It answered most of my questions on running an EV.