Why Do Fitness Influencers Sell Out? (4 Case Studies)

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  • Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
  • Not much to say I guess. Selling out is a range and I'm not saying everyone that appears in this video is a dirtbag or anything. Except that last dude.
    Timestamps:
    00:00 Geoff Says Hello
    00:17 What Is Selling Out
    01:16 Case Study 1: Revival Fitness
    05:36 Case Study 2: Elliot Hulse
    08:52 Case Study 3: Golden Era Bookworm
    10:44 Case Study 4: Greg Doucette
    12:30 Needs of Audience vs Creator
    13:02 Everyone Justifies It
    13:44 Environment Has A Big Impact
    14:22 Plenty Of Opportunities
    14:45 YouTubin' Ain't Easy
    15:22 Cash Grabs WILL Fuck You Eventually
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  • @GVS
    @GVS  2 роки тому +327

    Yea, ironic posting this here, but this is legitimately how I support my ad-free content, plus the book kicks-ass anyway so I hardly think it's selling out. Appreciate the support!
    Includes:
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    Check it out, it's not even hundreds of dollars like SOME in the fitness industry charge...
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    • @ebelesaurus2
      @ebelesaurus2 2 роки тому +34

      Geoffrey please just put ads on your videos. Like it’s ok 😂

    • @ebelesaurus2
      @ebelesaurus2 2 роки тому +13

      I promise we won’t unsubscribe

    • @Lolek080195
      @Lolek080195 2 роки тому +36

      How dare You earn money from Your content.

    • @GVS
      @GVS  2 роки тому +75

      @@ebelesaurus2 trouble is about 70-80% of fitness ads are either slightly bullshit or totally bullshit. I had them on for a month...just not worth it, I'd rather support myself in other ways. Appreciate the support though :)

    • @its_james_fitness
      @its_james_fitness 2 роки тому +18

      No way is promoting a programme which you put your work in to and genuinely believe in is selling out. You're a trainer/trainee at the end of the day 👍 pushing someone else's book which you don't believe in to make a quick buck would be selling out, even if it's a good book.

  • @PROPAINZERO
    @PROPAINZERO Рік тому +128

    To actually watch greg go from calling out test boosters and fat burners at one point to now selling them is just crazy

  • @craigpage1261
    @craigpage1261 2 роки тому +423

    I’m always amazed that Alpha Destiny is such a straight up dude. He never pushes BS but puts out super solid content. I hope he is making money off of something because he deserves it but I can’t remember him mentioning any products to buy.

    • @masongreen1371
      @masongreen1371 2 роки тому +23

      Only thing I can think of was that neck extension thing

    • @SuperBetaBuxbros.
      @SuperBetaBuxbros. 2 роки тому +7

      He gets made fun of a lot same with Jason blaha

    • @MikeOxtinks
      @MikeOxtinks 2 роки тому +30

      @@SuperBetaBuxbros. wtf

    • @natereynolds2783
      @natereynolds2783 2 роки тому +145

      @@SuperBetaBuxbros. yeah, people don't get that he went from a teenager trying to act like a chad into becoming a real man. They are always using his old clips/PUA and the high block knee pull stuff(And not informing people that he isn't the same anymore, and pinning comments saying that they won't follow his modern advice now), which he has stated to find suboptimal from a Fatigue/Stimulus ratio, and with the PUA stuff he doesn't do that anymore and doesn't really give a shit about girls. He never was scamming people, just made some mistakes, was your typical teenager, but now that he has matured(Unlike Bahna who went reverse) and gained more experience, he has become essential for getting stronger past the novice/intermittent phase. Ironically they always use bots to hide their voice, don't give any details on their lifts, give no lifting advice besides clowning on people, and we don't know their physiques. Just some nameless trolls. Not the ones doing it in the past, the movement stuff needed to be discussed, but what are the odds the people taking these old clips out of context are against cancel culture, but our doing it themselves.

    • @tarunpratap017
      @tarunpratap017 2 роки тому +34

      He is one of my Fav Fitness UA-camr. Great Dude who interacts with his audience and gives good advices.

  • @JonnnyStorrrm
    @JonnnyStorrrm 2 роки тому +342

    I think Revival Fitness has put up some good content but I personally don't like him as a person. His demeanor can be pretty condescending tbh and not to mention how poorly he responds to criticism. Just makes him seem like such an insecure person deep down

    • @zerodood
      @zerodood 2 роки тому +42

      He's actually a pretty nice guy when you talk to him, I think he just acts snarky and blunt in his videos for entertainment. Though I'm definitely not excusing what he did with the Lumen thing.

    • @Gigaflare8822
      @Gigaflare8822 2 роки тому +29

      He seemed like a pretty chill guy in the Q&A he did a few weeks ago. But you're right, he has come across as abrasive from time to time.
      The guy has a tremendous amount of potential and did a lot for online fitness with bulking and "ab anxiety", though.

    • @whale1983
      @whale1983 Рік тому +27

      I like him because he’s real and doesn’t give a fuck

    • @wasabi5338
      @wasabi5338 Рік тому +16

      He's a pretty chill guy, he just acts like he has a chip on his shoulder for entertainment. And he did take the Enkiri criticism well, he joked about taking a hard L about it and he took the video down about kettlebell swings. He is a pretty alright dude, just a bit cynical.

    • @natedog380
      @natedog380 Рік тому +5

      These are the types of people you want to take advice from. Blunt and honest rather than someone who caters to your little feewings and feeds you false info to keep you as far away from your goals as possible just so you can keep coming back and consuming their material

  • @thedeadman8361
    @thedeadman8361 2 роки тому +361

    You're a legend, Geoff. Never afraid to call someone out if it means protecting the less informed from being exploited. The Revival Fitness stuff is really sad to see.

    • @notashton.
      @notashton. 2 роки тому +4

      I'm so confused that people arnt allowed to take a protein sponsor

    • @GVS
      @GVS  2 роки тому +76

      @@notashton. protein isn't a problem, but 90% of supp companies are selling something that's sketchy, or underdosed, or overmarketed. That's where they make the real money.

    • @thedeadman8361
      @thedeadman8361 2 роки тому +29

      @@notashton. someone can take a protein sponsor but when that sponsor also pushes testosterone boosters and BCAAs you aren't just taking protein sponsor are you.

    • @notashton.
      @notashton. 2 роки тому

      @@thedeadman8361 ok so go after Derek and gorilla mind for his sigma test booster. Or does that not count

    • @thedeadman8361
      @thedeadman8361 2 роки тому +9

      @@notashton. I totally agree, Gorilla Mind sigma Test booster is full of shit and Derek should be called out for it. Why would that not count exactly?

  • @FitLabb
    @FitLabb 2 роки тому +586

    I called it months ago that Revival was becoming a clout chasing sellout. It’s actually sad because he had/has a lot of potential, but he’s ruining his own future in the industry by continuing to pursue the wrong path of selling out his integrity for short term cash grabs, clout chasing in the exact same way those he criticizes have done, & becoming an unreliable source of info while promoting things like PED use after he’s had just over 2 solid years in the gym himself.
    I hope he sees this video & takes the criticism constructively and is able to realize he needs to change his ways not only for his own future in the industry, but for his viewers’ benefit as well. As much as I’ve had some major disagreements with him in the past, I truly do wish the guy well.

    • @adnanrawashdeh3965
      @adnanrawashdeh3965 2 роки тому +53

      He won't dont bother yourself

    • @Croissantrophy.meme.channel
      @Croissantrophy.meme.channel 2 роки тому +116

      I know for a fact he doesn't take criticism very well 😅

    • @GVS
      @GVS  2 роки тому +188

      He doesn't respond well to criticism, but hopefully he changes course yes.

    • @ilhamjaa5059
      @ilhamjaa5059 2 роки тому +47

      He is still in his teenage rage phase. I remember you agreeing with me when i call him future Greg Doucette. He literally the same now

    • @LasTortugasAzules
      @LasTortugasAzules 2 роки тому +35

      I haven't given up on him yet. I have to admit though, there was a video earlier this year, I think it was before he entered the bodybuilding competition, where he announced his bulk was over and he was going to start cutting. There was a line in that video, something along the lines of "I need to get a six pack. No one's channel grows without a six pack." That was a red flag. It was just a) so superficial, and b) another example of him seemingly putting subscriber counts above all else, instead of good information and a good community
      He and his channel have flaws, but again, I don't think it's to the point of giving up on him just yet

  • @jsmith108
    @jsmith108 2 роки тому +119

    It saddens me how common it is for people to sell out their fellow man for a dollar.
    1. Create insecurity
    2. Offer "solution"
    3. Profit

  • @ilyaankheraj6480
    @ilyaankheraj6480 2 роки тому +471

    Finally someone called out revival fitness’ BS

    • @notashton.
      @notashton. 2 роки тому +34

      literally everyone piles on that guy lmao

    • @iwnl_vale
      @iwnl_vale 2 роки тому +40

      NH did but people didn't like it

    • @TheMarkTenification
      @TheMarkTenification 2 роки тому +79

      @vxlkrye I've been subbed to RF a while. I think he's poised to launch clear into the crankosphere at a moments notice. Maybe he won't though. My prediction is he becomes a whole milk liver King, not red jug, unpasteurized, may kill you straight from the cow whole milk. He's also completely wrong about artificial sweeteners.

    • @PauIdenino
      @PauIdenino 2 роки тому +31

      Never liked that guy

    • @exquisitesoundsandmusic3232
      @exquisitesoundsandmusic3232 2 роки тому +74

      he is not going to stay natural for much longer after his show

  • @DefGoat
    @DefGoat 2 роки тому +59

    Revival fitness definitely had me and lost me in a very short time.

  • @Nick-wc7ov
    @Nick-wc7ov 2 роки тому +241

    So true with Greg. When I first started lifting in 2019 his videos were really helpful. Never would have gotten as lean as I did without his videos. Although it’s hard to stomach his “anabolic cookbook” (which I did unfortunately purchase lol). And it’s just sad to see what he’s become.
    Same with Revival. I only found him like 4 months ago and he already seems different than when I found him.

    • @scottf3456
      @scottf3456 2 роки тому

      Greg was a drama queen piggybacking of athlean x from the beginning.

    • @Nick-wc7ov
      @Nick-wc7ov 2 роки тому +6

      @@scottf3456 That may be, but I can’t say I didn’t get any useful information from him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @mickethegoblin7167
      @mickethegoblin7167 2 роки тому +27

      Greg is not even funny anymore

    • @joeyh6521
      @joeyh6521 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@mickethegoblin7167 he's shown that he's only interested in bringing people down. Put a video up within 10 seconds of Mike Thurston putting up a 10 year transformation but still hasn't put anything up after the MPFD Matt Does Fitness steroid stuff.

    • @satinderjit4
      @satinderjit4 2 роки тому +3

      I bought his cookbook just to support him and have yet to make anything from it. It's been over a year since I bought it...I even forgot I even bought it until I saw your comment. Greg used to be a pretty cool guy before.

  • @Gio53087
    @Gio53087 2 роки тому +4

    These movie cuts are amazing hahaha. Great video and thanks for still being organic and transparent

  • @MariaT-95
    @MariaT-95 2 роки тому +24

    I clicked because the picture of Elliot took me way back, had almost forgotten about him. He was one of the first channels related to lifting that I ever watched too, back in 2016. Glad I watched, great video and overview.
    Also, the lumen stuff is so infuriating to me, as someone studying nutrition who's trying to give good, science based information/advice. We're being drowned out by these companies who end up worsening their customers economy and maybe even their health. It was chilling to listen to Revival Fitness' comment on integrity. :(

  • @SirMordred524
    @SirMordred524 2 роки тому +254

    Can't say I'm surprised in Revival's case. I initially subbed to him because of his thorough well-deserved roasting of Greg, but not long after that, he needlessly went after NH. That combined with his pure projection of "if you had easy access to PEDs you would use them" was a red flag. I didn't even know about his sponsorship with shady products and his "everyone's a liar and just here to make money" attitude until this video. It's a shame since I found his content mostly good, but his rise to relative fame from roasting Greg seems to have gotten to his head.

    • @chairmanmeow8481
      @chairmanmeow8481 2 роки тому +25

      It's not a problem that he went after NH. He's allowed to criticize NH and present his own arguments even if those arguments weren't the best. Free speech bruv

    • @christophersmith3341
      @christophersmith3341 2 роки тому +26

      Everyone's mentioning the support for PED. Somehow I've missed this entirely. The ads don't bother me. I'm not going to buy the products, I skip past them, and I get that he's working hard to maintain his channel while living on a low-income scale, so a little corporate sponsorship helps him out. But the PED support. Man, that's depressing.

    • @justingreek6428
      @justingreek6428 2 роки тому +10

      @@chairmanmeow8481 it might be constitutional, but that doesn't mean it's going to build his channel.

    • @dmate9889
      @dmate9889 2 роки тому

      Revival definitely has a 'calling out the BS and giving you the hard truth' sort of vibe, and unfortunately it seems like he is setting himself up to gain some money and fame and go 'Sorry, hard truth of the industry, go buy my fat burner so I can afford my PED's.' Hopefully he realizes that his popularity comes from calling out the industry, not from feeding into a nihilism by making it seem like its inevitable that he will become the BS he critisizes.

    • @zerodood
      @zerodood 2 роки тому +5

      Forgive me guys, but who's NH?

  • @icce.
    @icce. 2 роки тому +14

    This is why I don't subscribe to a lot of fitness youtubers, most are grifters. Good to see you calling them out especially revival fitness.

    • @Kaledrone
      @Kaledrone 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah, you just subscribe to a dude after seeing that their content is pretty good and they give very solid and encouraging advice and then all of a sudden one day they begin posting videos that completely contradict everything they stood for at one point and at that point all you can just say is "not again"

  • @briand5047
    @briand5047 2 роки тому +129

    I've been into lifting for over 40 years and somehow still shocked at the weird, infantile dependency, and cult-like hero worship of many people. If someone teaches you progressive overload, thank the person that taught you but most of your gratitude should be be towards reality, human evolution, human physiology or however one wants to say it. A teacher interested in your strength doesn't weaken you by allowing, let alone encouraging, you to put them on a pedestal.

    • @72Dexter72Manley72
      @72Dexter72Manley72 2 роки тому +12

      Man I think a lot of young people just don't get the concept of busting their ass when working out.
      Looking for the easy way to get bigger and or stronger. Trying their hardest to get on Test or another drug.
      There is no easy way. Bust your ass when you're working out. Set a goal for your workout. 10 more minutes on cardio. One more rep than last workout. 2-5 more lbs then the last workout. Don't play around between sets. Focus on the goal you set for yourself. Eat well. Get good sleep. Drink plenty of water.
      There is no easy way. Just Bust your ass.

    • @briand5047
      @briand5047 2 роки тому +5

      @@72Dexter72Manley72 Those fundamentals are at least 90% of the process.

    • @72Dexter72Manley72
      @72Dexter72Manley72 2 роки тому +6

      @@briand5047 Yes but most younger lifters don't get it. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️.
      Back in the day when I relatively new to lifting, I was working out with guys who were much stronger and much bigger than me. They weren't lowering the weights being used so I had to get mine in before they went up in weight. I drove 45 minutes to go to that gym because I knew those guys would be there pushing me. And there were other gym's 5-10 minutes from my Apt. I progressed very fast because of them pushing me. But I had to be willing to bust my ass to work out with them. And they worked me out hard. Forced reps, drop sets, applying resistance to every other rep when we used machines. When I caught up to them on a few exercises they were shocked. But I told them why. You guys pushed me and never let me slack off. I caught up because of you guys also. 👍🏽

    • @peterdearborn
      @peterdearborn Рік тому

      @@72Dexter72Manley72 It's honestly nothing new. Remember the "fat melting" reciprocating band machines of the 50s-60s? The 80s-90s had their own weird obsession with "toning" so as to avoid accidentally getting as big as Arnold (and surely avoiding the associated effort).
      I think the biggest change is the parasocial relationship of youtube and social media more broadly. Fitness youtubers are essentially using the fireside chat effect to get folks to open their wallets.
      There is a lot more good info out there these days, but growing up pre-internet we also didn't get pulled in by the algorithm on some of the more dubious stuff.

    • @doublevision2943
      @doublevision2943 7 місяців тому +1

      People are suffering from self induced loneliness and social anxiety, it's 1000 times easier sitting down in front of a screen and watching a video which makes it seem like you're there with the guy conversing than talking to real people, this is also a big reason why podcasts are so popular even though they exist in ridiculous abundance. Parasocial relationships are extremely dangerous and most regular Internet consumers fall for them super hard and don't escape the trap anymore. They obsess over fake personas and live in a pretentious space where they're friends with all these people they have and will never meet. The worst is that to their object of obsession they are nothing but a means to an end, money to be made.
      The worst I've seen are donaters on Livestreams leaving messages that are quite literally formulated in a way that makes it obvious that in their head they are buddies with the streamer, it's pathetic and sad, the streamer will give some court and pointless reply and in reality they're annoyed that the slave didnt give them more cash.
      What a stupid concept to donate to someone who has enough passive income to live lifetimes anyway lol. Of course it can always get worse like soulless coomers but I don't even want to think about that

  • @Ethan-Relearning-Movement
    @Ethan-Relearning-Movement 2 роки тому +1

    Videos like this are great not just for viewers but anyone considering starting their own channel. Please keep up the good influence!

  • @tomlazoriksuccessfitness
    @tomlazoriksuccessfitness 2 роки тому +57

    Really glad you made this, Geoff. Especially in regards to Revival, I’m glad to see you holding someone you’ve respected quite a bit (and even somewhat still) accountable for his actions. Shows YOUR integrity! It’s a sad story, and hopefully those who sell out come back around. Wishful thinking! 💪🤓

  • @vulturesiii6450
    @vulturesiii6450 2 роки тому +6

    I gotta say Geoffrey I've been training 3.5 years and have looked through hundreds of fitness channels, and my favourites have changed as I've matured and realised how I want to train and what actually works (this took multiple years) to sift through the crap and finally have landed on your channel. Have Really high respect for ya mate.

  • @longdrums
    @longdrums 2 роки тому +3

    Great video as usual Geoff. I think the American Psycho edit was the funniest one yet for me. Fully laughed my ass off and had to replay it.

  • @plaguedoctor2k
    @plaguedoctor2k 2 роки тому

    One of the best things to happen to me in 2022 is discovering ur channel my guy. U r definetly one of a kind & one of the rare ones. Full support to you. 🤩💯

  • @kapitalidea
    @kapitalidea 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video GVS! Damn I appreciate your honesty and integrity! I am truly a humbled fan! Keep up the fantastic work brother!

  • @Daggerpaw1
    @Daggerpaw1 2 роки тому +81

    How people didn’t jump ship when revival fitness shilled for a test checking service while shilling TRT in general and projecting his desire to be a gear head on his audience is beyond me.

    • @carlosdelsol76
      @carlosdelsol76 2 роки тому

      the parasocial was already in, he has a niche auidience of nerdie bis who want to fuck him

    • @ilhamjaa5059
      @ilhamjaa5059 2 роки тому +5

      @@dionysosalters1895 really condescending

    • @ilhamjaa5059
      @ilhamjaa5059 2 роки тому +11

      I dont watch him that much, but if i did maybe i didnt notice it because its hard to take him seriously when all he do is judge people

    • @brandongaul4481
      @brandongaul4481 2 роки тому +2

      His content is still good contrary to Greg doucettes. Same with Elliot

    • @Chillsies
      @Chillsies 2 роки тому +16

      The way he just started rattling off SARMs and peptide companies during that NH beef and claiming that NH and his fans Have the tabs open on their browsers for the companies was so weird

  • @fatcat22able
    @fatcat22able 2 роки тому +77

    When Revival exposed Greg's maingaining nonsense, I thought he was a huge breath of fresh air. But now, I'm wondering if he only wanted to have his turn getting the bag instead.

    • @novavisuals9570
      @novavisuals9570 2 роки тому +34

      Nah bro, he's still preaching good shit but LA and money problems are a terrible combination.

    • @atomerki9759
      @atomerki9759 2 роки тому +3

      You wondered exactly right. He just wanted to divert the cash flow to himself

  • @Oceanbreeze160
    @Oceanbreeze160 Рік тому +1

    I’m new to your channel. I love your content as well as this video. This was eye opening for me but at the same time I’m partially not surprised. You only wish it was the other way around but it is what it is. Thanks a bunch man!!

  • @antonpohrebniak
    @antonpohrebniak 2 роки тому

    Very nice and useful video man❤👌🏻💪🏻 Well done genuinely!

  • @whippedflame8484
    @whippedflame8484 2 роки тому +39

    I enjoyed some of Revival’s videos, but his personality is really grating. You, IronMusket, and MPMD are the only fitness channels I follow anymore

    • @antipaganda5635
      @antipaganda5635 2 роки тому +23

      MPMD is like one long ad for finasteride.

    • @parsa5290
      @parsa5290 2 роки тому +3

      You forgot jeff nippard and noel dyzel 😉

    • @Kaledrone
      @Kaledrone 2 роки тому +26

      Revival's personality is absolutely horrific and I don't mean that in a good way. All these dudes with the "life is unfair and I am just an asshole out of necessity, you gotta do what you gotta do to survive" attitude always turn out to be malevolent bastards in the end. These dudes just use that attitude to try to justify their malevolence by saying it's "out of necessity" and "that's just how life works". Never listen to people whose entire personality is "I'm just trying to be real bruv", there are already a lot of them in this comments section

    • @erickg667
      @erickg667 2 роки тому +5

      @@antipaganda5635 Whenever he promotes a sponsor, like the protein cereal or the Seed pill, I enjoy hearing him talk because no one else is going to do it like him. Words keep coming out of his delts.

    • @frog6054
      @frog6054 2 роки тому

      @@Kaledrone
      True. All this guys are tryhard.

  • @dabualifts
    @dabualifts 2 роки тому +28

    I feel like "selling out" is especially bad if you are someone that mainly calls other people out on their bullshit. If you are doing your own content and sell some shitty stuff once or twice, people might give you the benefit of the doubt. But if your brand is to call out the bullshit...not a good look.

    • @aesyamazeli8804
      @aesyamazeli8804 2 роки тому +6

      If you sell out from the get go nobody cares. People just don't like betrayels.

  • @benjamin07420
    @benjamin07420 Рік тому

    I like your selection for case studies. New viewer here. Enjoying your content, only watched a few videos so far but have gained some key knowledge so far and looking forward to putting it to work in the gym.

  • @nicholascruz8285
    @nicholascruz8285 2 роки тому +1

    Found your channel through RF … glad I’m here tho brother..

  • @getjacked
    @getjacked 2 роки тому +72

    I'm interested to see the pure cope/shade thrown by Revival Fitness in his future videos. I love some of his content but its sad to see the path he's going down especially with his bodybuilding shows. I still think he can change not like some other content creators in this video.

    • @gm9460
      @gm9460 2 роки тому +2

      Is the bodybuilding show thing not just to prove a point? That you can be natural but also that training for bodybuilding and trying to be shredded really sucks (he admits to hating it)
      I haven’t followed it that closely to be fair
      If he is secretly no longer natural (I have my suspicions) then that is sad

  • @thomaswilliams1533
    @thomaswilliams1533 2 роки тому +12

    Every RF video I've seen made me uncomfortable for some inexplicable reason. Glad to see my subconscious is working properly.

    • @111kino
      @111kino 2 роки тому

      I only saw him in a critique video from another small channel about his kettlebell swings demonstration and advice. The clips that were used from RF's video gave me giant red flags that dude was way too into himself and thought he knew a lot more than he actually did. Standard stuff really. I mean, is anyone really surprised when its a dude who's only been into fitness for 2 years but giving training and coaching advice to others? I'm all for more info and learning, but there's a bit of lacking humility there that isn't addressed.

    • @pennyblue6372
      @pennyblue6372 2 роки тому +1

      @@111kino i criticted his shoulder workout and gave multiple arguments for my criticism his second response was demanding a physic picture of me. i sended it and got ignored after….😅

    • @111kino
      @111kino 2 роки тому

      @@pennyblue6372 probably cuz you mogged on him and made him have to reconsider his entire life. I've gotten that numerous times in real life from guys who're bigger than me and don't see me lift heavy or do certain exercises often. Deep seated insecurities and all that. It's a giant tell that they aren't into learning, just being perceived as being better than others. It's way too common, especially for people primarily bodybuilding.

  • @zodd67
    @zodd67 2 роки тому

    Good on you for not falling for that sh*t, I could imagine it's tempting but I'd have a guilty conscience knowing I'm ripping off naïve/young people

  • @wasabi5338
    @wasabi5338 2 роки тому +10

    I enjoy RF's content but man that Lumen ad is just so funny lmaooo

  • @learnerlove6853
    @learnerlove6853 2 роки тому +26

    Yeah I saw the RF grift immediately. The plus side to having been scammed a lot in the past is that I now realize when someone is trying to sell you something to your detriment/ or atleast not your benefit.

  • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
    @ghfjfghjasdfasdf 2 роки тому +6

    The world will end the day NH starts selling sponsored crossaints.

  • @antipaganda5635
    @antipaganda5635 2 роки тому +256

    Greg talking about integrity is like governments talking about freedom lol

  • @DEUltra82
    @DEUltra82 2 роки тому +41

    The most upsetting of these is RF. I had watched a few of his videos starting around a year ago, and thought it was great that he did the call out on greg. I really overlooked the first couple of things he promoted, but was done when he started promoting that lumen garbage. Sad to see a channel with that much potential sell out so hardcore, practically over night.

  • @PenziPitlergaming
    @PenziPitlergaming 2 роки тому +5

    This
    This is why I love your channel
    I love how you defend people
    But also are critical of them when they screw up
    I'm so glad you are unbiased. Thx Geoff

  • @londonmm
    @londonmm 2 роки тому +8

    I've been building my own programs for years now diet, exercise, sleep, etc. I have years of experience in the gym and playing sports, but during my Ph.D., I've needed to focus on one thing. Over the past few months, you've inspired me to go deeper into hypertrophy training. Without a doubt, I feel confident in building my own program with structured mesocycles and dieting. Nonetheless, I appreciate everything you have to offer and I am purchasing your book after writing this. Doesn't matter how much I've experienced or know currently, your book will undoubtedly improve my journey. This is my first fitness book (outside of academics) and will most likely be my last.
    Much love and respect, peace.

    • @GVS
      @GVS  2 роки тому +3

      Appreciate the support, you'll definitely enjoy it!

  • @tommellorlifts8631
    @tommellorlifts8631 2 роки тому +1

    Underrated channel bro ❤

  • @BigDees19
    @BigDees19 2 роки тому +1

    Damn, the legend himself Geoffrey! lol
    im always happy to hear and see you making these awesome videos bro! love your content man also super funny too and informative!
    Keep up the integrity man.
    Any man
    that can eazily be swayed by a little money is a guy I want nothing to do with or especially buy his or hers products.
    Just because the fitness Industry is a damn mess! It seriously doesn't mean it has to be that way.
    Be the CHANGE YOU want to SEE. or atleast try to be that change! Don't be like other sellouts ppl! thanks Geoffrey for seeing you stil got heart and class in a industry that has just about none !

  • @spbspb2413
    @spbspb2413 2 роки тому +105

    Greg's downfall is definitley the biggest. When i found his channel back then, when he was talking without a bunch of scam supplmenets behind him not about every single drama, but about diet and exercise, called out BS programms of AthleanX for example, and advised progressive overload, his videos genuinely helped me go into the right direction.

    • @scottf3456
      @scottf3456 2 роки тому +10

      The only reason greg went after ax was to chase clout. He was selling out from day 1.

    • @spbspb2413
      @spbspb2413 2 роки тому +13

      @@scottf3456 maybe he was, but when he was just talking with a shit camera and his background was just a wall, talking about training stuff and food, he was a useful channel.

    • @stanleyelnats
      @stanleyelnats 2 роки тому +11

      Greg actually believes in HIS product though and he still gives solid info and hasnt changed his mind much about fitness and none about diet. I dont understand why hes even in this video. If Greg is clout chasing then what do you call this video? And lastly there is a difference between selling out and advertising your product.

    • @worteltel2914
      @worteltel2914 2 роки тому

      @@stanleyelnats COPIUMOVERDOSE

    • @spbspb2413
      @spbspb2413 2 роки тому +11

      @@stanleyelnats don't be a fanboy bro

  • @Paroex
    @Paroex 2 роки тому +22

    Dear lord RF's outlook on life is grim as hell.

    • @gaminikokawalage7124
      @gaminikokawalage7124 2 роки тому +1

      Yh lol it is

    • @aesyamazeli8804
      @aesyamazeli8804 2 роки тому +3

      He's in the red/black pill community so his outlook of life is very grim lmao.

    • @ohhellothere3217
      @ohhellothere3217 2 роки тому +3

      Living in le big city + too much internet. The dude clearly browses /fit/ despite his normie dudebro video persona

    • @mickethegoblin7167
      @mickethegoblin7167 2 роки тому

      He needs money I guess

  • @elliottmanners1620
    @elliottmanners1620 2 роки тому

    Anybody else peep the last bookmark on the video 🤣. All jokes aside great content again from you Geoff. This is my favourite UA-cam channel. Keep pushing and I will in fact be grabbing a copy of your book!

  • @branflakes496
    @branflakes496 2 роки тому

    Such a fantastic video man.

  • @Croissantrophy.meme.channel
    @Croissantrophy.meme.channel 2 роки тому +11

    Oh damn!! Thanks for the shout out! Means a lot 🙇🏻‍♂️🙇🏻‍♂️🙇🏻‍♂️

    • @GVS
      @GVS  2 роки тому +5

      👊👊👊

  • @gpfitness8194
    @gpfitness8194 2 роки тому +4

    He replied to a comment on his new video and has now deleted it. But he essentially said he doesn’t care what other people think. Which I think you expected. Anyways thanks for keeping it real Geoffrey, always been a stand up dude!

  • @shanevisitacion9795
    @shanevisitacion9795 2 роки тому

    can't love this enough, I hope it helps others

  • @anthonyplaysbass
    @anthonyplaysbass 2 роки тому

    Hey Geoff, great vid! I admit, I first saw one of your videos months and months ago and I've really come to appreciate your honesty and no BS approach. Kind of like the modern age Alpha Destiny, in the sense that it's no nonsense, truth

  • @MassiveIron
    @MassiveIron 2 роки тому +6

    Good video.

  • @steelmongoose4956
    @steelmongoose4956 2 роки тому +30

    It’s easier to sell a dream than hard work. Whatever an influencer’s ideas may be at the beginning, it’s going to be a real test of…integrity when that realization is made. It comes down to what you want to see when you look in the mirror.

  • @dionysosalters1895
    @dionysosalters1895 2 роки тому +1

    Im just happy that more YTers like you, NH, BOM exist now.

    • @Shvabicu
      @Shvabicu 2 роки тому

      Jeff Nippard and Renaissance Periodization with Dr. Mike are still proper legit. I also don't follow bb that much anymore and prefer pl stuff from proper goats like Haack and Atwood

  • @HasturYellowSign
    @HasturYellowSign 2 роки тому +1

    You’re right about GEB. I only watch their older videos now. I kept fast forwarding through one of their newer vids

  • @AHeroAlmost
    @AHeroAlmost 2 роки тому +50

    Greg became the definition of ..
    “You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain “

  • @smartsimplefit
    @smartsimplefit 2 роки тому +50

    The UA-cam fitness community (or perhaps the noble natty community) showing it's low tolerance for sell outs and shenanigans is wonderful to see. Exercise your discernment muscles folks! The scams are a plenty. Think before you buy.

    • @cimi93x
      @cimi93x 2 роки тому +6

      If i hear noble natty one more time i'm gonna puke

    • @smartsimplefit
      @smartsimplefit 2 роки тому +1

      @@cimi93x noble natty :D

    • @cimi93x
      @cimi93x 2 роки тому +2

      @@smartsimplefit 🤢🤮

  • @joshranowsky8083
    @joshranowsky8083 2 роки тому

    Great video. Just subscribed.

  • @julienl.3327
    @julienl.3327 2 роки тому +8

    The misunderstanding is that RV’s quest for truth was a marketing stunt from the beginning. For me the guy is fake from the beginning.

  • @Croissantrophy.meme.channel
    @Croissantrophy.meme.channel 2 роки тому +20

    I WAS WAITING FOR THIS!

  • @thevision4734
    @thevision4734 2 роки тому

    Great work

  • @ClarksvilleBarbellClub
    @ClarksvilleBarbellClub 2 роки тому

    Great video, brother!

  • @adnanrawashdeh3965
    @adnanrawashdeh3965 2 роки тому +9

    First let me say that this was an excellent video and we'd love to see more of this kind in the future
    Second we'd like to thank you for distinguishing between the 2 terms covered in the video and you staying true to yourself.

  • @Yaderix
    @Yaderix 2 роки тому +3

    5:04 I remember in one of ur videos you said you couldn't bulk because it was over your budget. Glad to see your income is in 6 figures now king 👑💪🏽

  • @arvind3891
    @arvind3891 2 роки тому +2

    You and natural hypertrophy are people every fitness youtuber should strive to be(not the content, but everything else)

  • @thomaswilson191
    @thomaswilson191 2 роки тому +1

    My fav fitness channel for a few months now and still going strong

  • @Rylienivek
    @Rylienivek 2 роки тому +5

    Shocking to see revival fitness on the thumbnail, really enjoy his content. I think he is struggling financially, so I can understand why he’d promote bs products , but still no excuse

  • @goghvonjohann2924
    @goghvonjohann2924 Рік тому +3

    "Rants about people selling stupid supplements... ends video with advertising his own stupid supplements"

  • @stephanea5364
    @stephanea5364 2 роки тому

    Great vid.

  • @theOGofREDS
    @theOGofREDS 2 роки тому

    I like how you look like you actually live in the place where you film. Half of these channels have a model home look to their habitat.

  • @BlacK40k
    @BlacK40k 2 роки тому +46

    Elliot's change really saddened me. I mostly watched his life advice content because I simply lacked a positive mentor figure in my life

    • @Verbux
      @Verbux Рік тому +2

      That’s why I watch him now :p

    • @FitFatFit
      @FitFatFit Рік тому +3

      That’s what turned me off lol 😂 I was subbed for workout stuff , have no interest in the guru …I’ve lived through more shit than he did 😂

    • @ham5483
      @ham5483 11 місяців тому

      Hes lost his mind

  • @comicalcomicsdotcomics726
    @comicalcomicsdotcomics726 2 роки тому +3

    I feel like the best way you can do it properly is the Sean Nalewanyj way by making your own product so that you have complete control of what goes into it and so that it doesn't have control over you.

    • @BuckeyeNE
      @BuckeyeNE 2 роки тому +1

      Similar to MPMD, the fact he breaks down his products ingredient by ingredient is nice.

  • @larrygaking2731
    @larrygaking2731 2 роки тому

    Great video

  • @GreenSageAce
    @GreenSageAce 2 роки тому +5

    It makes sense why RF bashes natty lifters. Deep down he feels ashamed of potentially hopping on gear.

    • @atomerki9759
      @atomerki9759 2 роки тому +1

      He probably already did. Just because he isn't big doesn't mean he isn't on gear. A lot of people have naturally achievable physiques while being on PEDs.

  • @vermillionumbrella2939
    @vermillionumbrella2939 2 роки тому +3

    I think revival fitness has given all he can with his prior videos and i don't see any good reason to keep following him other than entertainment. Especially the whole "everyone's lying to you so i might as well" thing. That's not how people are supposed to behave and that doesn't make it okay to have no integrity. You're the 🐐, Geoff

  • @usamakhanfit
    @usamakhanfit 2 роки тому +24

    Guys like Greg I can’t stand. Elliot Hulse was a sad one for me tho. His content changed my life and made me not just a better lifter but a better man and for that I’m forever grateful.

    • @nickbyrd1027
      @nickbyrd1027 2 роки тому +6

      I truly hope you are not taking life advice from anything this dude has said in the last 3 years...

    • @kozmo7
      @kozmo7 2 роки тому +6

      Elliot lost his marbles a long long time ago
      Maybe Strength Camp Elliot had something, but he turned into a dude praying on betas

  • @Kurio71
    @Kurio71 11 місяців тому +2

    I don't really care too much what people are selling. I only take creatine and coffee for preworkout.

  • @geetee2694
    @geetee2694 Рік тому

    You need a case study #5...The Clash.

  • @noahgearhart4098
    @noahgearhart4098 2 роки тому +3

    I still watch every Revival video and it seems like every one of them get worse

  • @BasedChadman
    @BasedChadman 2 роки тому +28

    It's unfortunate to see RF selling out, but I get it. You look at the viewership of any natty with integrity vs the affiliate shills and get a bitter taste left in your mouth when you realize how much the algorithm screws honest people on thus platform as well as others.
    People want the shortcuts, so that's what sells, unfortunately. Anyway, mad respect for you for staying true to yourself despite this. I hope your channel continues to grow as one of the very few quality sources left here 💪

    • @Shvabicu
      @Shvabicu 2 роки тому +2

      Jeff Nippard is doing well. Been with his channel since the early days of him making videos in his Subaru

    • @BasedChadman
      @BasedChadman 2 роки тому +1

      @@Shvabicu Jeff has the privilege of looking like an absolute specimen and a half even as a natty. Physique is a huge factor in the online space especially (take Ryan Memistin for example or Greg Douchette)

    • @Shvabicu
      @Shvabicu 2 роки тому +1

      @@BasedChadman yeah because Jeff is short as hell. My boy is tiny and looks mad jacked with his amount of muscle on his small frame.

  • @Treklosopher
    @Treklosopher Рік тому +1

    I've grown up and lived around LA all my life. You're 100% correct. Here, you either sell out or suffer.

  • @Wiizardii
    @Wiizardii Рік тому +1

    Man these were awesome channels once upon a time many millennias ago, especially Elliot Hulse..
    You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain :(

  • @BerserkHaris
    @BerserkHaris 2 роки тому +15

    Revival fitness selling out is tough to see genuinely enjoyed his content

  • @ashm3697
    @ashm3697 2 роки тому +4

    Revival obviously hopped on the gravy train because he’s left his job as a personal trainer

  • @cameronmiri4020
    @cameronmiri4020 2 роки тому +1

    Geoffrey, the beard is looking sharp.

  • @thomashunt6000
    @thomashunt6000 Рік тому +2

    Damn, dude. Found Rivival Fitness shortly after finding your channel and was just about to ask if he's ever done a Collab with you because I thought you guys were kind of on the same wave length. Sucks he did the whole supplement sponsor thing and glad I didn't ask. Greg Doucette sucks too, and don't even get me started on Cbum.

  • @kevindadswell603
    @kevindadswell603 2 роки тому +33

    I'm a cop and I have seen so many people lose their integrity a little bit at a time. As Geoff said, It's a slippery slope that eventually you can't climb back from

    • @BuJammy
      @BuJammy 2 роки тому

      How did you keep your integrity? Genuinely interested.

    • @kevindadswell603
      @kevindadswell603 2 роки тому +2

      @@BuJammy You have to make a conscious decision to never compromise, even when it's the easier solution.

    • @GurlsiLike
      @GurlsiLike 2 роки тому

      @@kevindadswell603 Moral Fiber indeed.

  • @thecarnager1949
    @thecarnager1949 2 роки тому +34

    R.I.P Revival fitness, he was meant to destroy the sellouts, not join them 😢

    • @diaris8177
      @diaris8177 2 роки тому +8

      He was supposed to bring BALANCE to fitness, not leave it in darkness 😪

    • @gavman31295
      @gavman31295 2 роки тому

      I HATE YOOOOU!!!

  • @jonathanouimette4720
    @jonathanouimette4720 2 роки тому

    I’m IN LOVE with this man

  • @4uto_4ddict
    @4uto_4ddict 2 роки тому

    I’m excited about this video (grabs “test boosting” popcorn)

  • @benscoins7848
    @benscoins7848 2 роки тому +5

    I unsubbed from revival awhile ago because honestly his information was never that great or unique to begin with

  • @LeonGainsborough
    @LeonGainsborough 2 роки тому +4

    Meanwhile Alpha Destiny: Yo guys do seated barbell overhead press for bigger delts 🔥😀

  • @austinhowley3907
    @austinhowley3907 3 місяці тому +2

    I need a trigger warning for the Greg douccette Jump scares 😢

  • @truediltom
    @truediltom 2 роки тому +2

    Am I the only one who thought Elliot Hulse was one of the Hodge Twins???

  • @ssdabel
    @ssdabel 2 роки тому +4

    Greg's integrity was in his hair.

  • @Sir_Killsalot
    @Sir_Killsalot 2 роки тому +6

    Knew about you since like three years, from quora. Its great to see you grow, while retaining authenticity, all the way.

  • @amjadkhalawi589
    @amjadkhalawi589 Рік тому +1

    One wise man said "you whether die a hero or you live long until you become the villain"

  • @Section8dc
    @Section8dc 2 роки тому +2

    I was lifting seriously during the old Elliot days of "Hey Elliot" and he used to be solid and one of the leading people in the industry, how the mighty have fallen smh

  • @ilhamjaa5059
    @ilhamjaa5059 2 роки тому +17

    Revival fitness selling out in the early phase of his youtube journey is sad but funny. Judging people too much and now he is being tested by it.

  • @axezazel
    @axezazel 2 роки тому

    This video is 100% accurate. Well done

  • @KeganVanSickle
    @KeganVanSickle 2 роки тому +1

    I've checked myself out of the "fitness industry" UA-cam stuff for months now. I've been happier, healthier, so much stronger, have actually gained weight and muscle. No supplements, just food, hard work and fun. No more burnout workouts. It sucks, I'm over it all.

  • @Protein-Man
    @Protein-Man 2 роки тому +4

    Perfect video. I think it was necessary.
    Also im so happy that my boy Crossaint got a cameo

    • @Croissantrophy.meme.channel
      @Croissantrophy.meme.channel 2 роки тому +3

      This made my day, my week, my month 😭

    • @MonkeyBarsEveryday
      @MonkeyBarsEveryday 2 роки тому +1

      @@Croissantrophy.meme.channel don't forget us when you're famous

    • @Croissantrophy.meme.channel
      @Croissantrophy.meme.channel 2 роки тому +1

      @@MonkeyBarsEveryday as long as you buy my new brand of anabolic pastries is gonna be fine 😈💰

    • @wasabi5338
      @wasabi5338 2 роки тому +1

      @@Croissantrophy.meme.channel anabolic french bread when

    • @Croissantrophy.meme.channel
      @Croissantrophy.meme.channel 2 роки тому

      @@wasabi5338 let me move to LA first, then I'm gonna release my bread and pastry supplements