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@@paulwhite9242 You havent spent much time with chicks huh. From *friends* to chicks i banged it was always physical attraction or being ignored and having daddy issues making them enjoy the degradation.
Especially when your lifting partner fucken farts on your damn face when in the middle of a rep on the bench press. No joke, happened to me the other day
@@missingperson2904 Dude face doesn't matter, it's us men who are visual creatures women are much less visual, nobody is saying it won't help but you are using it as an excuse to not put the work in. You're pathetic. Go to the gym
@@DMHR100 mf if you're tall tall and get jacked you'll look amazing, of course it needs more effort than getting jacked as someone who's short but come on
"No matter how much they eat, they simply remain skinny" Ayy, that used to be. I lifted hard for 2 years and didn't gain a pound. Then I started tracking calories and surprise surprise, when I actually consistently ate in a caloric surplus I gained weight just like everyone else.
Yea have seen that many, many times as a coach. "I'm eating so, so much but can't gain weight" "what did you eat yesterday, exactly?" **silence** Usually under 2k calories a day or something ridiculous.
I had a friend that was always telling me this. Then he went for 7days holiday trip with me and seen how I eat. He doesnt tell anyone, hes eating alot anymore
I had the same experience, I worked out hard for a long time and thought my natural limit was achieved at 180 ibs (pretty lean ~15-18% BF), a couple years ago I tracked calories and found I was not eating enough, now I weigh 200 ibs and am much stronger.. but not quite as lean (~18-20% BF), but being strong trumps being lean to me lol
I think the most overlooked/under-discussed aspect of any form of exercise is Endorphin release. Do people not realize that beyond all the other benefits, it just makes you fucking feel good?
Agreed. If I may add to that, making progress especially 'makes you fucking feel good', and that experience of making demonstrable progress through planning and hard work translates to other areas of life, too.
As a Manlette myself, i have to say that muscle will definetly help. Not only in terms of attracting other people, but also making you feel more comfortable with how you look and giving you a different perspective of the world.
@@Dave_Marmolejo Most of the time when people refer to 'The West' they are talking about the liberal democracies of North America, Europe & Oceania. It's more of a cultural grouping than an actual location.
It’s actually kind of advantageous too. If your arms, legs, torso are shorter they’ll fill out with muscle way better. As our beloved 5 foot 5 alphadestiny put it, try to seek out the women who like muscular men and chances are height won’t be a big deal
@@arandomzoomer4837 It's kind of not. Height is mostly determined by the length of the thigh bone. The differences in arm and torso length isn't really a deciding factor. If it was the reduced leverage would cancel the advantages out by providing a smaller stimulus to the muscle. But it's all pretty negligible, if you're not looking at extremes.
Thats the ENTIRE point of the channel. Think its sad all you want. But The channel is about how to get women duh. Its obviously not the entire point working out.
as cringe as it is labelling it and taking different pills i do honestly think the "teachings" of the redpill are good, Accepting reality. instead of taking the blackpill and giving up all hope and living in anger because of lack of dicipline, taking the redpill is realising how the world is and it is up to YOU to make the most of it and improve.
@@Triopticblaze I mean 'redpill' is a huge community and there are many who have quite a fucked up view of women as well, but yeah, its certainly more heplful than this 'blackpill' pessimistic bs.
Incels will waste their money on anything as long as they're promised some booty No don't go to therapy for your porn addiction, just buy my book and hit the gym bro
@@Eudaemoniac it is extremely easy to find information on proper training, but the point of books like this is to compile the information in an easy to digest structured manner as opposed to a sea of information on the internet, so yeah, there are pretty good reasons.
A friend of mine who died when I was a teen thought me one of the most important life lesson a man can get. He froze to death overnight on the main street of our hometown (on a meth/PCP frenzy). Through his gruesome death, he thought us all that you can have friends, you can have parents that love you, but once you give up on yourself - nobody is coming to save you.
This "dude" need to watch NH videos. Especially "why do we lift". That video alone gives me hope for the future. I wish the best for all black pilled guys who wish to turn their life around
@@fred_g7802 If you can walk, even roll, you can turn away from anything that's harmful to you once you realize the problem and decide to do something about it.
NH truly is an inspiration. Amusingly, I had the 'Why do we lift' video open in my browser right now. I figured it will be a good one, but this just hypes me more.
"It's definitely not worth putting in the time and effort to go to the gym at this height." There is no situation where it's "not worth it" to go to the gym. There are infinite physical and mental benefits to working out. Even if you get no girls, so what? You have improved tremendously. By the way, there is no way that you are going to look worse by going to the gym, and also, many of the things he mentions (like frame and all the proportions) are hard to judge without trying to work out first. And of course, even if you have bad proportions - you are still going to look better when you put some muscles on.
@@epicotakugamer4930stupidest shit I mean that all these “I know everything” black pilled idealogy is about a cry baby wanting to get laid u will never get laid if u keep acting that way
@@Masterdesstructlonely cope b.s. improve yourself so you can fantasize about intimacy alone in the corner of the room until you eventually succumb to the ills of mortality one day. Affection and intimacy is far more important than some materialist feats and vanity my dude. It's a cope to think bettering yourself matters when the lottery has unfavorably treated you from birth.
Spot on brother! This is the exact opposite of the messaging that should be getting out there as it’s completely counterproductive to inspiring or helping people, & it’s just disingenuous & not factually accurate info.
I mean, if we're being honest with ourselves, a prominent goal for most people who go to the gym is to look better. We shouldn't lie to ourselves and say looks don't matter at all, because they do to some degree.
@@SirMordred524 True but even if we absolutely conclude that training won't increase someone's physical attractiveness, they would still benefit in other ways.
I've met guys like this in real life, and hey, I'm no psychologist, so take this with a grain of salt, but I think the difference between me and them is I try to be honest with myself about what my insecurities are (we all have them, don't we?) and work on them the best I can. Some people try to bury their insecurities and end up hating the world.
I've gone from being a rail all of my childhood and early adulthood, to a dad bod for most of my mid to late 20s, to now looking like a God in my 30s. This idea you can't change your body drastically has no basis in reality, you might not look exactly like your favorite crush's dream guy but you can still make real changes if you put your mind to it. What's the worst that can happen if you try? Oh no you're so much stronger, fitter, and healthier than you were before oh the horror.
Me too. The craziest part though, is that women don’t even care that much, black pill people just need to develop interests that other people have and they’ll be swimming in pussy/ dick/ whatever
To be honest it is true that some people are fucked. Some people can’t get to 21 lean bmi at 13 bodyfat percentage. I’m probably in the minority here, but I reckon my natural limit is probably about 22 at 13 percent, which is a lot bigger than I am now (19-19.5 at 15-16%, 149 lbs, 1.72m), but it’s smaller than a lot of guys I see who have only been lifting for 6 months. And my natural limit would require another decade of hard training of which 2 years at least would need to be near flawless in and out of the gym, and my injuries and life might prevent this from being possible.
Yup, I was consistently weaker than all my peers at any exercise: cardio, strength training, you name it. Weighed a solid 154lbs at 6'2" when I was around 19-20. That's why I gave up and never tr- SIKE, I gained 40 lbs over the course of 6-7 years, and can currently do multiple reps of +100lbs weighted pullups.
my brother is far stronger than me but I dominate him completely in anything cardio related, his heart is weak and his cardiovascular system is inefficient compared to mine.
Honestly that can happen just cause your married doesn’t mean your good with women maybe you get lucky not saying this guy is like this just an example
Its so fucking dumb. I was a virgin till21. Fucking terrible with women. Cant flirt. No game. Slightly short. Guess what? I went to the gym. Practiced social skills, got hobbies and met my gf and weve been together for nearly 7 years. And i didnt even have game then. We went for a drink as friends and i asked if i could kiss her. Very lame. Still got a gf. Just try fellas. Its hard but really give it the business and i promise youll be ok. Most of these guys look fine. Its all psychological.
@@ucnguyenanh9414 Then build it back up. If you need a therapist then see one. If you can list one positive benefit to wallowing I’m all ears, but otherwise you can control a hell of lot more than you probably think
@@JFearless nah, rebuild it for what?To have our hearts broken all over again? Go to the therapists, the ones who confused my enlightenment with depression? No,
@@toptextbottomtext3062 it's pretty much the height that building codes revolve around even. When you're 5'9" the world feels like it was made with you in mind.
Dude, I am a 25 years old guy, 5'7 and with braces and with underbite and with relatively closed pair of eyes and big nose. I obviously don't like my face but I still go to gym and try to improve one of the few things I feel I can change. According to waffle it's pointless to work hard, but hey, I prefer dying alone thinking I did my best rather than dying alone without even trying. I would feel less of a loser
Same except I'm a shorter manlet (5'4"), I still go to the gym to improve my physique but I acknowledge that it's over for me. The only women I'll ever be able to get are escorts unfortunately, the black pill is correct. Genetic determinism wasn't polite with me
Same i’d rather make sure i can be the best version of myself by being healthy and by being fit instead of whining about my situation and genetic destiny
I used to watch videos like this, from similar content creators, and all I felt was shame and guilt. Since noticing that pattern I've cut down on the conent I consume and if I leave that content in a less positive emotional state I'll block their channels from being recommended to me. I now only watch fitness content that I feel uplifts me (Bald Omni Man, NH and yourself). It has really improved my mindset and my mental wellbeing!
Nice! I used to like watching this type of stuff. It definitely makes you feel unhelpful, pointless shame and guilt, but the hook is how it'll make you feel like you're finally being in on a deep dark secret that everybody irl is pretending doesn't exist. They're not. They're depressed af and this is how they cope. Depression can help you see harsh truths that the non-depressed might have a harder time seeing, but it also causes a lot cognitive distortions. You see that in this video: he catastrophizes, cherry picks examples, and he perceives average looking people as abominations. This Wheat Waffle guy is living in a hell of his own creation and trying to bring people down with him lol. Maybe that's also a cope.
My big problem with the incel phenomenon is that they seem to be completely online. Like they rely on tinder, social media and videos of women too judge and determine reality. The truth is real life doesn’t exist in a black and white framework.
These people will weakly ask out 2-3 girls and then get denied since their social skills are lacking. Instead of improving they’ll use this as confirmation bias and just talk shit about women online instead of seeing what they can work on. Extremely sad existence tbh
@@mooseworld5678 >lacking social skills. You can pretend to be a former pedo and still pull girls on online dating (if you are catfishing with a chad profile picture), which makes up as much as 35% of dating for younger people.
I lift for many things, aesthetics is only part of it as 99.9% of people will never see me lift anything but they see arms and shoulders that one only gets from lifting even if they only notice it subconciously.
I needed this one! As a 5'5" dude, training consistently for 7+ years I can undoubtedly say that my confidence when it comes to all aspect of life, dating included has been so much better! Regardless of whether I look physically good or not (I'm sure I look better) the confidence alone that comes from physical exercise makes it worth it for me.
@Tony Riccio Can’t say the same about me. No matter how I talk to women and no matter what I do we only talk for a week and just stop from there. Even then I’m always the first one to text to invite to do this and that.
@@aabahdjfisosososos the black pill is correct in many aspects of its philosophy. Maybe try identifying what makes you unattractive, and whether it’s genetic or not
I was a gym rat. I got in great shape. I did a lot of powerlifting by doing deadlifts, bench press, and squats. I gained a lot of strength and muscle. But that certainly never gave me more dating success. If you go to the gym, just do it for your health but don't expect dating miracles to come of it. I am a short guy. I have no money. I'm old. I am not ugly but not particularly attractive ether. Average looks. I'm honest with myself. I am who I am. I am not an incel (that's way too extreme) but I at least understand blackpill philosophy. It's good to be honest with yourself and that's why I think Wheat Waffles is right. He has a good channel.
I think staying in shape helps, but, as you say: “Don’t expect dating miracles.” Certainly, going the other way, like getting fat, is a bad idea. However, you can only push self improvement as far as things can go. Wheaties points out that you’re going to be wearing clothes anyway. But you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear; nor can the leopard change its spots.
You are wrong,incel means involuntary celebrate, don't twist the definition, a Chad with bad game is not an incel,an average looks man who hates woman is not an incel,a very ugly person is @@lunistylz587
This is a very interesting topic to me. I definitely went through a red pill and maybe even a little black pill phase for a while....and there are certainly liberating truths within.......but there's also a very dark hole you can get dragged into if you allow yourself.
@@michadomeracki5910 My guy that's kindergarden levels of cope, if they truly would "learn the truth" they wouldnt bitch and moan every 5 seconds. They learn nothing not even how to be alone
There’s so much wrong in the claims Wheat Waffles makes in his video, & I don’t remotely get the “black pill” mindset. We can all control of our own fate & improve our lives by doing things like exercising regularly regardless of the base we’re starting with.
"We can all control of our own fate & improve our lives" some people really don't want to believe this, it absolves them of their responsibility, their life sucks and it's not their fault at all, it's just easier for them to cope that way...
Someone who always been rich will never understand a poor person. Same thing with people with normal or average genetics to those with poor. If you had shit genetics your mindset would be vastly different
@@Asraeks With all due respect, I don’t agree with the comparison you made there at all. The “bad genetics” argument is almost entirely a marketing scheme used for influencers to sell people some BS products or programs, or it’s an excuse people make for their lack of progress made that’s almost always actually due to not doing one or multiple things properly. This same concept can be applied to so many facets in life, such as the jealous excuses someone makes for why they didn’t become as successful in their career as their friend, when the real reason is that their friend worked much harder and smarter to get to where they are professionally, while the person complaining can’t admit that they’re just generally lazier or less motivated, & not willing to really push themselves to put in a full effort into their work or career development. Genetics really don’t matter much until/unless you’re planning on competing in bodybuilding or are aiming to be a top performing athlete, as it really only defines the absolute physique & performance limits that we’re all capable of if we put in enough hard work consistently for a long enough time…..and even in the best cases, most people rarely ever reach their absolute “genetic limits”. We all start from zero when starting a fitness journey, each with a different starting point as our “zero”. Some have better muscle insertion & attachment points that can allow us to look better or be a bit stronger, while others have a faster innate metabolism, greater lung capacity, or naturally higher/lower hormone levels, etc…but we all have the same basic ability to gain lean muscle mass, strength, & endurance if we optimize the several important factors that all matter for improving any of those things & then actually putting in the work to achieve our goals. Those things will look a bit different for everyone, but the overall recipe is always the same even if some may need more or less of some of the “ingredients” than others to achieve those goals.
Cop out right. Yeah 5'7" with big forhead, balding, unattractive facial geometry. "Do you even lift bro"? For what exactly? Be an ugly ass manlet, who isn't attractive for lifting, just compensating? These assholes who were given a live life to the fullest free card telling people who are nearly not of the same species to lighten up need to get the fuck over themselves and their baseless critiques.
Imagine using Kamail Nanjiani and Vegan Gains as examples of “Gymcels”. WTF, both guys that are definitely not “ugly” facial wise, and both guys aren’t celibate. And yeah it’s been known for a while now that fibre characteristics can change through training style. Particularly the Type 2-A “Intermediate Fibres”.
Also, it is beyond laughable to argue that they look WORSE than they would have looked if they didn’t work out. Holy shit, the things humans are capable of convincing themselves of never cease to amaze mе. “A good body goes with a good face otherwise don’t bother” lmao.
Amazed at how hard some people will work to find excuses instead of solutions. Thanks for making this video, we need to push back at this stuff wherever we see it. Not necessarily for those creators but their potential audiences.
I just noticed that Geoff's beard grows asymetrically. One cheek line is higher than the other. Which path should he take? -The Blue Pill: Accept himself and ask girls to love him in spite of his flaws. -The Red Pill: Perfect his shaving technique to ensure he is LooksMaxxed, go clubbing and smash. The Black Pill: Curse his genetics for giving him such a lobsided beard and seek comfort in the arms of Reddit. The choice is yours Geoff.
@@razoredge6130 Wrong. The blackpill says that for MOST men it's over the day they're born due to bad genetics and there is NO POINT in looksmaxxing because only the top few percent can ever be attractive any way. If any subpar male (aka almost everybody) looksmaxxes he is just coping (see "gymcelling", "overcompensating"). That's what blackpillers actually believe and if you don't then you're not one of them. Looksmaxxing is redpilled or perhaps even bluepilled, definitely not blackpilled. I've spent way too much time around people taking various "pills".
@@forasago Blackpill=looks matter most in dating Looksmax= improve your looks in order to date Looksmaxxing is the most blackpill you can do even Wheat Waffles says losing weight increases smv and most blackpill channels say to looksmax(tails, BlackvsSilver, Dr Freeman, Inkwelltv) From what I understand from the redpill is Game, Confidence, Money and Status is what women are attracted to.
@@razoredge6130 Uhhh... what if confidence, charisma, (I think this is what is meant by "game", we stopped saying that as we left the 90s) your job & wealth, your looks... what if all these matter in varying amounts to different women because interestingly enough, women are individuals? It's not a mathematical formula and you are assuredly single.
Wheat waffles is not even the worst blackpill youtuber. There's some (one is called 'Tails' I think) who think wheat waffles isn't even blackpilled enough and gives people too much hope. The blackpill trend in general is not a healthy one, I understand the mainstream narrative of "just be yourself" doesn't actually work all the time but deciding to do nothing but complain and resent the world is only going to make things worse.
@@buddyboyingtonesq.231 Tails is the only one who doesn't cope with morals and misogyny at least + gives actual advice intead of ranting. That's why he's my favorite
Yeah telling people happy b.s sweet nothings and giving false hope is really so much better than just giving people thr cold hard truth. Lol. You're one of these people who thinks supporting others delusion is virtuous.
You may hate what Wheat waffles says, but honestly women do agree with a lot of what he says. But that's why you shouldn't base your self worth on what women think of you. The black pill can destroy some people, but it can be the best thing to ever happen to others. Pros and cons
@nnnnnnnnnn5654 The creator definitely cares as he's not feeding me some delusional nonsense that "there's someone for everyone". I know where I stand, I know that I'm an undesirable sub5 manlet, beancel that will never attract any girl. And it's not about how I feel, it's about reality. You said the creator makes me feel small and useless, that's exactly how women see me. Small and useless, I'd rather be told the truth.
I agree with a lot of your points. I don't see it as pessimism though and being aware of black pill and how relevant looks are to women is important. black pill encourages looks maxing and gym does that so he is not against it. he's saying that if you are a 3 or 4 out of 10 after looks maxing you can try real hard and get rich all that good stuff, women will just play you and take your money, or reject you I think it's better and healthier to give up if you are not in a favourable position. It's like trying to get in the NBA if you are 5 '1, you should play to your strenghts. The game is much harder and the juice is not worth the squeeze at that point
Well said man. This is possibly the most docile and thoughtful way to express the dilemma to people who only regurgitate sweet nothings or the I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a gut who has a gf and gets action, and they never mention whether its a hooker, methhead, or otherwise or is 2-5.
Agree 1000% but this clown just wants us to buy his book.. lol if your below average height hitting the gym will have drastically lower results in terms for attracting women i see all these copers in the comment saying we dont do it for female approval.. 😂 common guys we all know a big reason for hitting the gym and getting muscles is for female attention… if you go to the gym purelyy for feeling good then more power to you but stop coping though
@@Tank_lover I mean If you look at all the awful things that occur in this world, it’s safe to say that being pessimistic is being real. If you’re optimistic, you’re just deluding yourself into thinking life is all sunshine and rainbows.
@@Juve-vo3ie When you're an optimist, you tend to see the brighter side of things, and you're convinced that things are getting better. You tend to believe in people, and you think that life's really pretty good and getting better by the day. You look at challenges as bright, shining reward systems, just waiting for you to collect them through effort and positive attitude. The opposite of the optimist is the pessimist, who tends to see everything in as negative and dark a light as possible. The pessimist believes that things are bad, and that they're going to get worse. The realist tries to see things as they really are, and expects the future to act according to probabilities and tendencies. When you're a realist, you tend to see people as complex combinations of impulses and thoughts, which can slide toward positive or negative behaviors. You see challenges as inevitable aspects of life, which can get in the way or move you toward goals, depending upon how you respond to them.
@@Tank_lover while if this is the case then why can’t I think of myself as both a realist AND a pessimist? Or is your red pill cult going to flame me for that too?
4:43 The picture on the left side of the screen is Joe Fazer. A UA-camr from the UK who makes content mainly on fitness-related topics. His entire channel is mostly based on the idea that a lanky, weak and scrawny-looking, 110-lbs teenager with plenty of insecurities about his body/appearance can in fact turn things around by consistenly hitting the gym OVER THE YEARS while GAINING WEIGHT. Now he weighs around 185 lbs (that is a 75-lbs increase from where he started) and has some respectable numbers in time tested lifts. I just think that is pathetic and absolutely appalling to see that some people on this platform seek to spread a defeatist mindset of a loser who is predetermined to amount to nothing in life despite hard work. But I'd say it is even more stupid to find out that these morons are trying to further their black-pill agenda by using images of those who actually prove their entire worldview wrong. P.S. Not trying to white knight Joe (not a fan boy). I just happen to know that that's his picture because I'm actually making a reaction video on one of his latest videos (FYI)
He just did a face reveal and long interview in 1STMAN's channel if you wanna do more content on this guy. I feel like he tries to just waltz through criticism and resume as usual but shit like this should temper that.
Going to the gym and exercising will benefit EVERYONE. Telling someone they shouldn't bother working out immediately kills everything else he says. As for the manlets, I guess he doesn't realize that alot of these dudes you see on the gram super muscular with alot of girls are like 5 foot 6. Hell look at someone like Jeff nippard or Russell orhi. Both of them are short as hell. Being taller helps but being short doesn't disqualify you
Right. Surely an athletic looking 5'7 guy is more attractive and desirable than a unathletic, sedentary 5'7 guy. Woe is me. Easier to convince themselves that they're irredemibal than actually put in a small effort. Sad really.
Yes , if being short was so detrimental that wheat waffles claim. Then short people would have been breed out of the gene pool thousands of years ago, which is not true
I have a great friend from Philly. He's 5'4" on a good day. He's fit, professionally successful, and a decent, kind human being with hobbies. His wife is at least three inches taller, a drop-dead gorgeous blonde marathoner, with a pharmacy degree. High quality women are into all kinds of men. You want to date successfully? Get a job, your own place, and a hobby. And be okay with rejection. It happens to everyone. Keep getting out there.
Dang. Yesterday, Wheat waffle's videos first came up suggested on my feed. After watching a few of them, I thought to myself let me check Natural hypertrophy's channel, he must have already dissected this guy's views and offered critic and enlightenment. And here is Geoff, stepping forward and attending to the task.
What they think is unattractive: - Being short/skinny - Having an average face - Not being famous/rich - Not being muscular What actually is (way more) unattractive: - Being full of (penis)envy/resentment - Rating women on a scale of 1-10 - Being insecure - Being negative - Talking about concepts such as 'Sexual Market Value'
@Matt Joseph Not saying they don't care, but it isn't everything. Hopefully you have more to offer than appearances and money/status. Hopefully you can meet a woman that values other things than that. Sure, SOME women will ONLY go for that, but not all. And not women worth dating long term, if u ask me. Plenty, like 80% of my friends/relatives have wives or gf, kids, cars, houses and lead a happy life even though they don't live up to the standards people talk about on YT/incel culture.
Never thought you’d cover content like this, but I’m so glad you did. Blackpill channels like WheatWaffles do SO much damage to young men’s self-image, and it’s especially insidious since most people who watch this incel fuel are young guys whose facial and aesthetic changes are far from over. What I think most of these dudes fail to realize is that you have far more control over your appearance than you might think, but transforming your looks requires a wholesale lifestyle change. You start working out, you start seeing results which leads you to optimize your nutrition with healthy foods. Your skin starts to clear, and you invest in a skincare routine. As you build muscle and lose fat, you buy some new clothes and get a new haircut. You start going out more and interacting with people in the real world who aren’t brain-poisoned by online incel forums. There is indeed hope for anybody who seeks it, but I feel like these blackpill losers tell themselves their genetics are the end all be all in order to avoid putting in the work. Funny enough, just like how GShred puts everything on genetics and blackpills his own audience that way. Is GShred creating incels?
That's not the point, the point is that ugly people get treated like shit and having to looksmax just to be treated With respect gives me so much pain😖😣😞
@@milklover3158 ugly people do not get treated like shit as a de facto reality. The MAJORITY of people in the world are ugly. Get off of Instagram for two fucking minutes and look around at normal people. Develop a personality, be enjoyable to be around, stop caring so much about looks, and delete social media. Your life will be much better.
It's been a while since a video put out from someone I've never heard of before pissed me off this much. I HATE this type of thinking with a PASSION! I hate that people see this way of thinking as "deep" or even "realistic". It's about as deep as a petri dish and as realistic as a Dr. Suess book. I've always said that unrelenting pessimism is just as naive as unrelenting optimism. True realism takes both the positive AND negative outcomes into account.
It's like a pissed of high school read Nietzsche, failed to actually even partially understood him, then mentally masturbated to Holden Caufield and Ayn Rand and called it good.
As a manlet myself (5.5 or 5.6, 167cm) I've never, but never had any issues dating. Just until I started watching more "self improvement -gym" content i found out that it's a problem lol and I'm also balding at 24...
@@josecarlosxyz maybe I should clarify that I've never been in the united states? I've been in Europe and south America, maybe those places don't care about height, but to be honest I doubt the difference is that much...
Fellow short guy here (5'6) also never had any issues with 1 night relationships, or long term. Just having confidence in yourself, caring about your physical and mental health, and always trying to improve will do wonders. As for the balding part, well that started at 28 for me and as of last year I've been going full bald. If it's noticeably balding then I suggest either shaving it all off, or razor that skull smooth. Women prefer bald over balding lol.
I'm more in the 170cm range but again literally it never made a difference with women. However, I *thought* it did when I was generally down on myself and couldn't get a date. Once I felt good about myself, I realized that sure some girls will never give me time of day, but most don't care that much
A very lanky buddy of mine is in a college frat and complained non stop about being a hard gainer because he ate a big surplus and worked out regularly. I tried to tell him that a terrible sleep schedule and drinking 20+ beers a week is gonna have a huge impact and is probably the main thing holding him back... Anyway he ignored me and now takes growth hormone.....It's 'working' but I just think its dumb to hop on drugs when lifestyle changes would do more.
I've discussed my friend about the effect of gaining muscle before and we had similar experiences: as soon as we got big and strong, people started to give us more attention (male and female, sexual and not sexual) and they started to really listen when we spoke. And I'm a slightly short guy (174cm) with a mediocre face and my friend is a bit taller.
Pointing out how absurd and cruel reality is is not going to win people over to your side. This isn't something to celebrate, and all of the people lacking self awareness in your anecdote are the reason I train myself to implant a negative bias against attractive people.
on the "gymcelling" thing like...maybe some people go to the gym for themselves and not so that they can fantasize about getting their highschool sweetheart back.
I'm 6'2 and I'm 22 right now I was 235 lbs when I was 20. My brother took me on a 4 mile run in the middle of spring and it made me want to die but it showed me that if I just hung in there the pace didn't matter as long as I was at least jogging. At first I did a comfortable 2 miles then I went a little further and further still until I could do the 4 mile circuit my brother showed me. I was running every other day and changed my diet to whole foods only no sugar that didn't come from fruit. I eventually got comfortable running 12 miles in one go.. Over the course of 7 months I got down to 185 at my lowest. I'm now back up at 210 with more fat than I'd like but also more muscle mass than I've ever had. I feel way better than when I was 19 and to make that transformation it took a constant effort and to make that effort I had to believe it was worth it that I could make my life better by trying hard. Sucks that a lot of people don't have that belief in their own potential.
@/\/igger My brother, I only said that I became healthier and I did. I don't know why you took the trouble to write this but no matter what your situation is you can improve yourself. In the world we live in you will be left behind if you dont make an effort and even if it doesn't work the only thing I know that works less than trying is not trying. (PS after losing 50 lbs I can tell you it very much did improve my jaw line)
Black pill is a sorry excuse to not improve yourself mentally, financially, and physically. This is why, when the going gets tough, I’m going by this quote from a music video that I saw recently. “You need to be a soldier. You have to go out there, into the world and say, hey I know the situation is $&%ed up. Hey, I know life isn’t fair. U just have to enjoy it for what it is.” Anything that helps me improve my life is a straight up bonus. ✊🏻✊🏻
@@The_Lovey_Informer by giving up? By just rotting in a pool of a vicious cycle of misery that u put onto yourself because of your looks? Also, u’d rather be on welfare because of your looks?! That’s not what I’m gonna do. Black pill is poison to me. Nothing more nothing less.
Thanks for releasing this. I'm glad the UA-cam algorithm helped me to find this video because I really needed it after watching those wheat waffle videos
The worst thing is that 95% of guys have this deterministic thinking about everything. A very common example in the fitness industry is the term "genetics", which is used as a universal and fatalistic excuse to simplify everything, but it actually doesn't say much about physique, since there are thousands of factors that determine a good physique or bad.
As someone who used to wallow in this kind of miserable content, you don't. You spend more and more time hidden away in your room living on the internet. It becomes painful to go outside and risk seeing an attractive woman. You'll feel desire, followed by anxiety, then a whole lot of self-pity and hatred (both of yourself and of the random woman). It's even worse if she's with some guy. There's a positive feedback loop where the more miserable you become, the more you seek this type of garbage out because at least your delusional despair and self-hatred will be validated. This type of shit absolutely leads to suicidal tendencies. They'll explicitly advocate LDAR (lay down and rot).
Is it possible that having a shitty or defeatist attitude is a great way to be unattractive to anyone? Who the hell would want to be around someone that thinks life is terrible AND there's nothing they can do to improve their situation? That would be exhausting.
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy that only gets further reinforced by their echo chamber. Absolutely no one is attracted to people with defeatist attitudes and a shitty outlook on life. They never stop to think that maybe the problem doesn’t lie in how women think, but in how they themselves think. It may seem easier to blame women rather than improving themselves, but it most certainly isn’t. If they’d stop wallowing in their own self pity and get to work on the aspects of themselves they can improve, they’d become more attractive to everyone. Improving yourself makes you more attractive to yourself. That in itself will make you more attractive to others.
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy that only gets further reinforced by their echo chamber. Absolutely no one is attracted to people with defeatist attitudes and a shitty outlook on life. They never stop to think that maybe the problem doesn’t lie in how women think, but in how they themselves think. It may seem easier to blame women rather than improving themselves, but it most certainly isn’t. If they’d stop wallowing in their own self pity and get to work on the aspects of themselves they can improve, they’d become more attractive to everyone. Improving yourself makes you more attractive to yourself. That in itself will make you more attractive to others.
To be a *"black piller"* is to be a coward. It means that you look at life and say *"I quit."* It's pathetic. You have ONE LIFE to live. Don't waste it wallowing around in self pity.
Flawed logic. Quitting people is a better option than quitting life. Blackpill isn't even about quitting, it's understanding that society is always against you
Blackpill isn't quiting life It's quiting dating because you have self awareness. And it also involves quiting any profession that requires in person social interaction because you understand the massive disadvantage you have when it comes to how people will treat you. That's why I'm a CNC Programmer, I looked in the mirror and decided that my time would be better spent working with machines and numbers rather than people. I'd probably be treated like shit if I worked in the service industry.
@@The_Lovey_Informerright. which is a bad mentality. cause society isn't out to get you in particular, and fearing that limits your own potential in your mind.
@@kamo7293okay he made an error black pill is literally your card you been dealt with if your sub 5 your card is already against you it like dog in a wolf world not gonna work.
This video was great stuff. Black pill content is such a toxic gateway to some pretty horrible places. Just hearing a few clips of this channel is enough to ruin my day
I am glad you addressed something like this. Given, the algorithm recommended his stuff a few times, so I saw some vids out of curiosity. He has made some decent points in a few videos, such as his video on going clubbing. However, his videos are incredibly depressing and I could tell when all of the optimism was being drained out of me. I had to stop, because I didn't want to share that pessimistic attitude, especially his views on going to the gym. I've been lifting for around 2 years now and have felt so much more confident and stronger than before lifting. Be the best you for you. The right woman will come along.
I love how he included a picture of Joe Fazer at 4:49 as an example for "lankletism", just look at this man now and tell me you cant have an aesthetic body😂 Just shows how ridiculous this content is...
This wheat waffle guy is more picky than any woman I've ever met haha. Of all seriousness...this guy seems to be perhaps reflecting alot of his own insecurities. He has given up, so he urges other men to give up too. What an absolutely disgusting and toxic message. Makes me really sad honestly. Thank you for making this video, Geodude! This is an extremely important video.
I had few girls that had crush on me in college, but I was not confident enough and have social anxiety due to childhood traumas. I never believed in those pill stuff, because everything was the opposite for me in life. Now I finally let go of all desires for women, now I'm free, I love being alone, planning to travel the world after that I'll move to somewhere remote, in nature, I love the survival stuff :)
Lucky that girls had crush on you. I am 21 and I never had a girlfriend. I had been using tinder, bumble and hinge for almost a month but not even a single match. I have 4 crushes on real life. 3 are from my college and are 18-20 year olds and another is 23 or 24 from another institute. I am too shy but finally managed to get the name of 2 of my crushes and follow them on Instagram and finally messaged one of them and was really happy when finally one of the crush who is 19 and in 2nd year replied to me. I didn't say her yet that I have crush on her but I am in last year of college and will be graduating by August end or Sept first week so would I have any chance with her and should I try to date her?
Im so sorry bro, i used to be where you were, but after some brutal self work, I was able to pull 6 girls within a year, and the 7th girl ended up being someone really special and we have been dating for 4 years. You really just have to force yourself in as many social situations as possible. Even after I mostly conquered my social anxiety, it would still come back at the start of a night going out. This is normal, and I found that my routine was so introduce myself to a fee people I really have no interest talking to, and trying to get away with saying the most ridiculous stiff possible. This seeming to quickly remind me that people really dont care that much and I dont need to worry.
@@DoomCookie but I am still kinda scared that what if she blocked me on Instagram and badly rejected me after I say her that I have a crush on her. And will it still work if I am gonna graduate college by August end or first week of Sept and she will just get into 3rd year? I really like her and she is really pretty.
@@user-yy4ux9zf4r Appreciate your message. I'm glad you conquered your social anxiety, it's no joke and takes big effort. Now I don't have any desires for women anymore, I've been doing a lot of extreme mental work for more than 4 years especially to let go of my wildest desires. My end goal is to buy some remote land far away from population and build a sustainable settlement there and live a solitary life. I might consider adopting many kids in the future, they can get all my love. I don't think any typical modern women would love that lifestyle, nor they have the same values as me. I need peace, I suffered enough :)
It's about time someone in the fitness industry brought this matter into light. The backpill ideology is tearing apart the fitness industry by taking hope away from men while remaining in the shadows.
Imo it's not gonna help. Alot of people came at these dudes and they just are viewed by all the stans as haters. Wheat waffles literally just made a video about him vs haters
@@epicotakugamer4930 Accepting being a loser and giving up because of being a loser are completely distinct. I am a loser myself but I still haven't given up yet
@@violetazur Giving up on what you can't get outside your control(whether it's genetics or not) is good because that means you can try to focus on other aspects of your life or just work around it.
Ive came across this wheat waffle dude a few times. I personally dont think it makes sense to try to debate / debunk his shit. He is just way too out of touch with the real world to even take his points serioud
Exercising isnt just for looks anyway even if it is the biggest driving force. Health improves the quality of life, productivity and is essential for happiness.
This is a very serious topic. People are way too concerned about small things that do not matter. There are workouts for slimming calves. Who cares if someone has fat calves. If you look at world leaders or entrepreneurs, very few of them are good-looking. They are successful because they focused on things that matter instead of crying about looks.
Thanks for shedding light on the youtube blackpilled incel community. I stumbled upon the wheat waffles channel couple months ago and found that the contest just radiated depression. Many young men fall into despair and pessimism through this kind of content.
You lost me at "I dont really like the term manlet" and elaborating on why you think it is shitty to make fun of someones size or male pattern baldness. The truth is that women are ruthless, they ridicule short men and most women I have dated would never date a man that is shorter than them or bald. It is not about what you dont like or what you think, it is about reality. You are not a woman, Goeffrey, and you not liking that men get ridiculed for their height or looks does not change a single thing about their reality.
I never said height doesn't matter to women, in fact in this very video I said it did. Which...you presumably watched. Or maybe just gave up after one statement you didn't agree with. My point is there's also no need to be unnecessarily mean about height. Or anything.
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@@Tee468 appreciate that, I think you'll enjoy it and get a lot from it! 👊👊
Just buy my book bro, it will totally turn you into a chad bro
@@Asraeks or, you know, do nothing. up to you.
@@GVS those are the only options?
The real black pill: The gym won't help you get women because the moment you start to train properly the faces you make will scare women away.
Or because they'r enot attracted to a manchild regardless of if they're yoked.
@@paulwhite9242 You havent spent much time with chicks huh.
From *friends* to chicks i banged it was always physical attraction or being ignored and having daddy issues making them enjoy the degradation.
@@paulwhite9242 💪💪💪💪💪
Especially when your lifting partner fucken farts on your damn face when in the middle of a rep on the bench press. No joke, happened to me the other day
@@davidkymdell452 Reminds me of high school...
The last thing any depressed internet addict needs is a health-promoting hobby that feels good, is fun, and builds self-efficacy.
Now post face
@@missingperson2904 Post rear glute spread.
As a former depressed internet addict, well said. Lifting is soo good for depression.
@@missingperson2904 Dude face doesn't matter, it's us men who are visual creatures women are much less visual, nobody is saying it won't help but you are using it as an excuse to not put the work in. You're pathetic. Go to the gym
Efficacy? A scientific term used to denote the effects of an experiment in an controlled environment..overused term by youtubers
Beeing short -> manletism -> it’s over
Beeing tall -> lankletism -> it’s over
Okay
Lol it’s funny if you think about it
Black pill channels are bullshit actually
Extremes are bad
@@DMHR100 mf if you're tall tall and get jacked you'll look amazing, of course it needs more effort than getting jacked as someone who's short but come on
@@inksword6029 there’s being too tall, anything over 6’7 looks weird
"No matter how much they eat, they simply remain skinny"
Ayy, that used to be. I lifted hard for 2 years and didn't gain a pound. Then I started tracking calories and surprise surprise, when I actually consistently ate in a caloric surplus I gained weight just like everyone else.
Yea have seen that many, many times as a coach.
"I'm eating so, so much but can't gain weight"
"what did you eat yesterday, exactly?"
**silence**
Usually under 2k calories a day or something ridiculous.
Same! It’s just the inverse of when overweight people don’t realize how many excessive calories they’re taking in
I had a friend that was always telling me this. Then he went for 7days holiday trip with me and seen how I eat. He doesnt tell anyone, hes eating alot anymore
I had the same experience, I worked out hard for a long time and thought my natural limit was achieved at 180 ibs (pretty lean ~15-18% BF), a couple years ago I tracked calories and found I was not eating enough, now I weigh 200 ibs and am much stronger.. but not quite as lean (~18-20% BF), but being strong trumps being lean to me lol
yeah it's typical skinny guy bullshit
People don't realize long distance runners are skinny on purpose. It is a disadvantage having to carry around more weight for such a long time
I weigh 134
I think the most overlooked/under-discussed aspect of any form of exercise is Endorphin release. Do people not realize that beyond all the other benefits, it just makes you fucking feel good?
It’s not like that
@@josecarlosxyz can you explain what you mean by that?
Agreed. If I may add to that, making progress especially 'makes you fucking feel good', and that experience of making demonstrable progress through planning and hard work translates to other areas of life, too.
Probably if i wouldnt have started lifting i would have killed myself years ago
@@bryancheron6902 PRs are like crack
As a Manlette myself, i have to say that muscle will definetly help. Not only in terms of attracting other people, but also making you feel more comfortable with how you look and giving you a different perspective of the world.
@Gabriel Kvarnberg Latin America is part of the west too my guy
@@Dave_Marmolejo Most of the time when people refer to 'The West' they are talking about the liberal democracies of North America, Europe & Oceania. It's more of a cultural grouping than an actual location.
It’s actually kind of advantageous too. If your arms, legs, torso are shorter they’ll fill out with muscle way better. As our beloved 5 foot 5 alphadestiny put it, try to seek out the women who like muscular men and chances are height won’t be a big deal
@@smolgok384 China will clean up after the west self implodes.
@@arandomzoomer4837 It's kind of not. Height is mostly determined by the length of the thigh bone.
The differences in arm and torso length isn't really a deciding factor. If it was the reduced leverage would cancel the advantages out by providing a smaller stimulus to the muscle. But it's all pretty negligible, if you're not looking at extremes.
He seems to think the only reason to lift is for the approval of others lol. What a weird thing to believe, lol
It’s a self-report on his part, cuz nobody who actually goes to the gym would say stuff like this
What a depressing thing to believe.
Sounds like projecting to me.
LOL at seeing you guys actually believe you are somehow above this and don't experience the world like humans. Fuck off your moral high horse
Thats the ENTIRE point of the channel. Think its sad all you want. But The channel is about how to get women duh. Its obviously not the entire point working out.
Tall --> its over
Short --> its over
improving your body --> its over
having abs --> its over
having hobbies --> its over
do anything --> its over
🤣🙈
Don't forget about negative canthal tilt. It's so over.
Don’t forget about philtrum and canthal tilt
What? He never said it’s over if you’re tall. Where did you see that? Being tall is the best possible thing that can happen
@@Ididnahthitherwho fucking cares? Only idiots
He is not white or black rapper-ropemax
If I was 4'10 I would go full buff dwarf mode and start wearing runes
Black pill, red pill, blue pill, green pill, turk pill........ IDGAF At this point people just need to train hard. Keep it up Geoffrey!!
Take the pill-pill - reject all pills
Yeah mate, once in the church of iron. THERE IS NO LEAVING. We gonna train haarrddd!!!!!!!
as cringe as it is labelling it and taking different pills i do honestly think the "teachings" of the redpill are good, Accepting reality. instead of taking the blackpill and giving up all hope and living in anger because of lack of dicipline, taking the redpill is realising how the world is and it is up to YOU to make the most of it and improve.
@@cyberdoe6707 chill pill
@@Triopticblaze I mean 'redpill' is a huge community and there are many who have quite a fucked up view of women as well, but yeah, its certainly more heplful than this 'blackpill' pessimistic bs.
Just buy my book bro
People should, they're well worth it.
Incels will waste their money on anything as long as they're promised some booty
No don't go to therapy for your porn addiction, just buy my book and hit the gym bro
@@GVSYou’re book is worthless. Information on proper training is totally ubiquitous. You have no reason to write books on this subject
@@Eudaemoniac it is extremely easy to find information on proper training, but the point of books like this is to compile the information in an easy to digest structured manner as opposed to a sea of information on the internet, so yeah, there are pretty good reasons.
@@vanillabatcave5677 no, you’re a fool. There are 5 minute UA-cam videos and articles that provide all you need to know
A friend of mine who died when I was a teen thought me one of the most important life lesson a man can get. He froze to death overnight on the main street of our hometown (on a meth/PCP frenzy). Through his gruesome death, he thought us all that you can have friends, you can have parents that love you, but once you give up on yourself - nobody is coming to save you.
thought or taught?
@@davidchu2001 farted
I'm sorry that happened, but am glad you took something good from it regardless.
@@davidchu2001Exploded
This "dude" need to watch NH videos. Especially "why do we lift". That video alone gives me hope for the future. I wish the best for all black pilled guys who wish to turn their life around
on days when i have no motivation to go lift in my oven of a garage, "why we lift" is the video that's playing in my head. works everytime.
No turning away from the Blackpill 💯
@@fred_g7802 If you can walk, even roll, you can turn away from anything that's harmful to you once you realize the problem and decide to do something about it.
NH truly is an inspiration. Amusingly, I had the 'Why do we lift' video open in my browser right now. I figured it will be a good one, but this just hypes me more.
@@DarkVeghetta only took you a year to respond...nice username btw.
"It's definitely not worth putting in the time and effort to go to the gym at this height."
There is no situation where it's "not worth it" to go to the gym. There are infinite physical and mental benefits to working out. Even if you get no girls, so what? You have improved tremendously.
By the way, there is no way that you are going to look worse by going to the gym, and also, many of the things he mentions (like frame and all the proportions) are hard to judge without trying to work out first. And of course, even if you have bad proportions - you are still going to look better when you put some muscles on.
No point in being a gymcel if I can't sleep with women that easily
Well what if the gym is on fire? Id say thats a great reason where its “not worth it” to go to the gym
Life doesnt have to revolve around women. And we should improve ourselves without expecting anything from them, just for us.
@@epicotakugamer4930stupidest shit I mean that all these “I know everything” black pilled idealogy is about a cry baby wanting to get laid u will never get laid if u keep acting that way
@@Masterdesstructlonely cope b.s. improve yourself so you can fantasize about intimacy alone in the corner of the room until you eventually succumb to the ills of mortality one day. Affection and intimacy is far more important than some materialist feats and vanity my dude. It's a cope to think bettering yourself matters when the lottery has unfavorably treated you from birth.
There are a multitude of issues with this content. For starters, what happened to going to the gym for health purposes? This is some toxic garbage 😵💫
Seems like it’s an excuse to be a negative asshole because believing you can’t do anything to change your situation is a coping mechanism 😂
Spot on brother! This is the exact opposite of the messaging that should be getting out there as it’s completely counterproductive to inspiring or helping people, & it’s just disingenuous & not factually accurate info.
I mean, if we're being honest with ourselves, a prominent goal for most people who go to the gym is to look better. We shouldn't lie to ourselves and say looks don't matter at all, because they do to some degree.
@@SirMordred524 True but even if we absolutely conclude that training won't increase someone's physical attractiveness, they would still benefit in other ways.
@@smolgok384 right on 💯 💪🤓
I've met guys like this in real life, and hey, I'm no psychologist, so take this with a grain of salt, but I think the difference between me and them is I try to be honest with myself about what my insecurities are (we all have them, don't we?) and work on them the best I can. Some people try to bury their insecurities and end up hating the world.
I don’t have insecurities?
Well said, brother!
How to work on baldness and being 5”7
Work on other aspects of your life that you can control and you will have a great life.
@@ahmedwolf8299 having a personality helps
I've gone from being a rail all of my childhood and early adulthood, to a dad bod for most of my mid to late 20s, to now looking like a God in my 30s. This idea you can't change your body drastically has no basis in reality, you might not look exactly like your favorite crush's dream guy but you can still make real changes if you put your mind to it. What's the worst that can happen if you try? Oh no you're so much stronger, fitter, and healthier than you were before oh the horror.
Me too. The craziest part though, is that women don’t even care that much, black pill people just need to develop interests that other people have and they’ll be swimming in pussy/ dick/ whatever
He is talking in context would that increase your sexual market value (probability to get a chick)
To be honest it is true that some people are fucked. Some people can’t get to 21 lean bmi at 13 bodyfat percentage. I’m probably in the minority here, but I reckon my natural limit is probably about 22 at 13 percent, which is a lot bigger than I am now (19-19.5 at 15-16%, 149 lbs, 1.72m), but it’s smaller than a lot of guys I see who have only been lifting for 6 months. And my natural limit would require another decade of hard training of which 2 years at least would need to be near flawless in and out of the gym, and my injuries and life might prevent this from being possible.
@@tquasa07 Eat more
Nothing funnier than a +7 trying to tell the -5 off
Kek
"Just work out bro" works out, realizes that only "street" girls exist now...
Yup, I was consistently weaker than all my peers at any exercise: cardio, strength training, you name it. Weighed a solid 154lbs at 6'2" when I was around 19-20. That's why I gave up and never tr- SIKE, I gained 40 lbs over the course of 6-7 years, and can currently do multiple reps of +100lbs weighted pullups.
SUUUUUIIIIII
Absolute king energy
Lets gooo, same starting stats here in 2018 at 20, now 30 pounds up :-)
my brother is far stronger than me but I dominate him completely in anything cardio related, his heart is weak and his cardiovascular system is inefficient compared to mine.
Did I mention I'm 6'2
Bro is literally married and makes jokes about not being good with women lmao
Right
Honestly that can happen just cause your married doesn’t mean your good with women maybe you get lucky not saying this guy is like this just an example
It's much easier keeping a woman than getting one haha. Source: me
Its so fucking dumb. I was a virgin till21. Fucking terrible with women. Cant flirt. No game. Slightly short.
Guess what? I went to the gym. Practiced social skills, got hobbies and met my gf and weve been together for nearly 7 years.
And i didnt even have game then. We went for a drink as friends and i asked if i could kiss her. Very lame. Still got a gf.
Just try fellas. Its hard but really give it the business and i promise youll be ok.
Most of these guys look fine. Its all psychological.
humility
Guys like wheat waffles destroy the mental health and confidence of young, insecure men. Thanks for calling him out Geoff 💪 you the man
Facts!!! 💯
Wrong.. WW is the Blackpill GOAT 🐐
he doesn't have to though, our mental health and confidence is already destroyed.
@@ucnguyenanh9414 Then build it back up. If you need a therapist then see one. If you can list one positive benefit to wallowing I’m all ears, but otherwise you can control a hell of lot more than you probably think
@@JFearless nah, rebuild it for what?To have our hearts broken all over again? Go to the therapists, the ones who confused my enlightenment with depression? No,
Doubtful he'll ever realize it's his personality that's the problem.
Handsome dudes doesn’t need personality they just stay mute
@@josecarlosxyz Lucky them, are you? Am i? Point stands. Develop a personality
lol
@@josecarlosxyz Not even true, unless you look like Alain Delon most handsome dudes won’t get anywhere with awful and bland personality.
@@Jay-gr4lt whatever helps you sleep at night
Did he really say Kumail Nanjiani is ugly? dude looks like a superhero. What the hell lol.
That pic is after he got jacked for a Marvel film role even.
How the fuck is 5'9" short?
Isn't that literally average height in the States?
@@toptextbottomtext3062 Pretty much
it's not most blackpill people don't even think that
It is short in some places
@@toptextbottomtext3062 it's pretty much the height that building codes revolve around even. When you're 5'9" the world feels like it was made with you in mind.
Reality is dangerous...
And that's the _point_ , best not to lie to men about their chances.
A cope a day keeps the rope away
😂
Dude, I am a 25 years old guy, 5'7 and with braces and with underbite and with relatively closed pair of eyes and big nose. I obviously don't like my face but I still go to gym and try to improve one of the few things I feel I can change. According to waffle it's pointless to work hard, but hey, I prefer dying alone thinking I did my best rather than dying alone without even trying. I would feel less of a loser
Same except I'm a shorter manlet (5'4"), I still go to the gym to improve my physique but I acknowledge that it's over for me.
The only women I'll ever be able to get are escorts unfortunately, the black pill is correct.
Genetic determinism wasn't polite with me
Same i’d rather make sure i can be the best version of myself by being healthy and by being fit instead of whining about my situation and genetic destiny
I used to watch videos like this, from similar content creators, and all I felt was shame and guilt. Since noticing that pattern I've cut down on the conent I consume and if I leave that content in a less positive emotional state I'll block their channels from being recommended to me. I now only watch fitness content that I feel uplifts me (Bald Omni Man, NH and yourself). It has really improved my mindset and my mental wellbeing!
You should watch Tails and 1nc3l TV instead for actual brutal blackpilling.
@@epicotakugamer4930 "blackpill" channels are the epitome of fucking cringe.
Nice! I used to like watching this type of stuff. It definitely makes you feel unhelpful, pointless shame and guilt, but the hook is how it'll make you feel like you're finally being in on a deep dark secret that everybody irl is pretending doesn't exist. They're not. They're depressed af and this is how they cope. Depression can help you see harsh truths that the non-depressed might have a harder time seeing, but it also causes a lot cognitive distortions. You see that in this video: he catastrophizes, cherry picks examples, and he perceives average looking people as abominations. This Wheat Waffle guy is living in a hell of his own creation and trying to bring people down with him lol. Maybe that's also a cope.
Good luck on your journey! Never lose hope 💪
@@mrlover928 it's crazy that term exists
My big problem with the incel phenomenon is that they seem to be completely online. Like they rely on tinder, social media and videos of women too judge and determine reality. The truth is real life doesn’t exist in a black and white framework.
These people will weakly ask out 2-3 girls and then get denied since their social skills are lacking. Instead of improving they’ll use this as confirmation bias and just talk shit about women online instead of seeing what they can work on. Extremely sad existence tbh
@@mooseworld5678 >lacking social skills.
You can pretend to be a former pedo and still pull girls on online dating (if you are catfishing with a chad profile picture), which makes up as much as 35% of dating for younger people.
Keep coping bluepilled 🤡's
@@fred_g7802 You do realize incel content goes against Christian and Traditional values. You don’t have to be a leftist to critique it.
@@MG-fv4oj false most incels, I'll include the entire manosphere all leans right and it aint even close
His video is based on the false assumption that guys lift solely for aesthetics.
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I lift for many things, aesthetics is only part of it as 99.9% of people will never see me lift anything but they see arms and shoulders that one only gets from lifting even if they only notice it subconciously.
"Incel" to me is a derogatory and shameful term to categorize many men, I go to the gym to lose weight and for health reasons, not to get laid.
If everyone would just stop working out, I would feel like less of a loser.
- The internet.
I needed this one! As a 5'5" dude, training consistently for 7+ years I can undoubtedly say that my confidence when it comes to all aspect of life, dating included has been so much better! Regardless of whether I look physically good or not (I'm sure I look better) the confidence alone that comes from physical exercise makes it worth it for me.
Still s manlet bro
@@pewtercamaro no matter what he does he will be 5'5, complaining wont help him, hes actually getting on with his life which is the smart move
@@peamutbubber getting on with his manlet life…yes.
Never even began, dude.
@@pewtercamaro you are just jelly even a guy like him gets girls
Inb4 inkwells in the comments telling you you have a wife just because you’re 6feet
It helps
@@aabahdjfisosososos shut up
It's because he geomaxxed.
@Tony Riccio
Can’t say the same about me. No matter how I talk to women and no matter what I do we only talk for a week and just stop from there. Even then I’m always the first one to text to invite to do this and that.
@@aabahdjfisosososos the black pill is correct in many aspects of its philosophy. Maybe try identifying what makes you unattractive, and whether it’s genetic or not
Probably one of your most important videos. Thanks for it Geoff.
I was a gym rat. I got in great shape. I did a lot of powerlifting by doing deadlifts, bench press, and squats. I gained a lot of strength and muscle. But that certainly never gave me more dating success. If you go to the gym, just do it for your health but don't expect dating miracles to come of it. I am a short guy. I have no money. I'm old. I am not ugly but not particularly attractive ether. Average looks. I'm honest with myself. I am who I am. I am not an incel (that's way too extreme) but I at least understand blackpill philosophy. It's good to be honest with yourself and that's why I think Wheat Waffles is right. He has a good channel.
I think staying in shape helps, but, as you say: “Don’t expect dating miracles.” Certainly, going the other way, like getting fat, is a bad idea. However, you can only push self improvement as far as things can go. Wheaties points out that you’re going to be wearing clothes anyway. But you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear; nor can the leopard change its spots.
If you don’t attract women, you are by definition an incel whether you think your one or not
You are wrong,incel means involuntary celebrate, don't twist the definition, a Chad with bad game is not an incel,an average looks man who hates woman is not an incel,a very ugly person is @@lunistylz587
This is a very interesting topic to me. I definitely went through a red pill and maybe even a little black pill phase for a while....and there are certainly liberating truths within.......but there's also a very dark hole you can get dragged into if you allow yourself.
Never go back. You know better now 🦾
This guys pissed me off real bad tonight. What an immoral asshole
A lot of these guys dont even try. Im fucking terrible with women but i still got a gf.
@@markbaker4425 Yeah, that's why they are losers, even animals are on a higher plane of existance then them because they atleast try
@@warcrimeconnoisseur5238 At least they can learn the truth.
@@michadomeracki5910 My guy that's kindergarden levels of cope, if they truly would "learn the truth" they wouldnt bitch and moan every 5 seconds. They learn nothing not even how to be alone
There’s so much wrong in the claims Wheat Waffles makes in his video, & I don’t remotely get the “black pill” mindset. We can all control of our own fate & improve our lives by doing things like exercising regularly regardless of the base we’re starting with.
"We can all control of our own fate & improve our lives" some people really don't want to believe this, it absolves them of their responsibility, their life sucks and it's not their fault at all, it's just easier for them to cope that way...
Agreed. It just seems like a way to cope with lack of drive towards overall self-improvement as a man.
Someone who always been rich will never understand a poor person. Same thing with people with normal or average genetics to those with poor. If you had shit genetics your mindset would be vastly different
Right on, brother 💪🤓 and yeah, what the heck is this black pill business 😵💫
@@Asraeks With all due respect, I don’t agree with the comparison you made there at all.
The “bad genetics” argument is almost entirely a marketing scheme used for influencers to sell people some BS products or programs, or it’s an excuse people make for their lack of progress made that’s almost always actually due to not doing one or multiple things properly. This same concept can be applied to so many facets in life, such as the jealous excuses someone makes for why they didn’t become as successful in their career as their friend, when the real reason is that their friend worked much harder and smarter to get to where they are professionally, while the person complaining can’t admit that they’re just generally lazier or less motivated, & not willing to really push themselves to put in a full effort into their work or career development.
Genetics really don’t matter much until/unless you’re planning on competing in bodybuilding or are aiming to be a top performing athlete, as it really only defines the absolute physique & performance limits that we’re all capable of if we put in enough hard work consistently for a long enough time…..and even in the best cases, most people rarely ever reach their absolute “genetic limits”.
We all start from zero when starting a fitness journey, each with a different starting point as our “zero”. Some have better muscle insertion & attachment points that can allow us to look better or be a bit stronger, while others have a faster innate metabolism, greater lung capacity, or naturally higher/lower hormone levels, etc…but we all have the same basic ability to gain lean muscle mass, strength, & endurance if we optimize the several important factors that all matter for improving any of those things & then actually putting in the work to achieve our goals. Those things will look a bit different for everyone, but the overall recipe is always the same even if some may need more or less of some of the “ingredients” than others to achieve those goals.
It’s so easy for guys that have pocket aces to tell other men with a shit hand to just “improve bro”
Cop out right. Yeah 5'7" with big forhead, balding, unattractive facial geometry. "Do you even lift bro"? For what exactly? Be an ugly ass manlet, who isn't attractive for lifting, just compensating? These assholes who were given a live life to the fullest free card telling people who are nearly not of the same species to lighten up need to get the fuck over themselves and their baseless critiques.
What else could they tell them beyond improving? Just stay how you are and wallow in sadness?
@@uwotm8634 It doesn’t matter how much you improve. Genetics are baked in. “Just work out bro.” *bro is 5’9*
@@polish_american5736 So don't bother doing anything? Wow great advice, I'm sure that's really gonna help.
@@uwotm8634 Not saying that at all. I just don’t wanna hear it from the people that everything handed to them because of looks.
Imagine using Kamail Nanjiani and Vegan Gains as examples of “Gymcels”.
WTF, both guys that are definitely not “ugly” facial wise, and both guys aren’t celibate.
And yeah it’s been known for a while now that fibre characteristics can change through training style. Particularly the Type 2-A “Intermediate Fibres”.
Yeah, i was like shit. If thats the bar for ugly now we're gonna need a new word for me. Best grab my phantom mask and relearn the piano.
@@spank86 😂💀
Thank you!!! When I saw Kumail in there I was like "WTF, Nanjiani is def hot".
*not homo btw. I'm a woman
That's the problem, even if they find a women in their life if she isn't 10/10 and with makeup all the time they will call her ugly
Also, it is beyond laughable to argue that they look WORSE than they would have looked if they didn’t work out. Holy shit, the things humans are capable of convincing themselves of never cease to amaze mе. “A good body goes with a good face otherwise don’t bother” lmao.
Amazed at how hard some people will work to find excuses instead of solutions. Thanks for making this video, we need to push back at this stuff wherever we see it. Not necessarily for those creators but their potential audiences.
Blackpill always prevails 💯
I just noticed that Geoff's beard grows asymetrically. One cheek line is higher than the other. Which path should he take?
-The Blue Pill: Accept himself and ask girls to love him in spite of his flaws.
-The Red Pill: Perfect his shaving technique to ensure he is LooksMaxxed, go clubbing and smash.
The Black Pill: Curse his genetics for giving him such a lobsided beard and seek comfort in the arms of Reddit.
The choice is yours Geoff.
Straw man
The blackpill says to looksmax to improve YOUR LOOKS
@@razoredge6130 Wrong. The blackpill says that for MOST men it's over the day they're born due to bad genetics and there is NO POINT in looksmaxxing because only the top few percent can ever be attractive any way. If any subpar male (aka almost everybody) looksmaxxes he is just coping (see "gymcelling", "overcompensating"). That's what blackpillers actually believe and if you don't then you're not one of them. Looksmaxxing is redpilled or perhaps even bluepilled, definitely not blackpilled.
I've spent way too much time around people taking various "pills".
@@forasago Blackpill=looks matter most in dating
Looksmax= improve your looks in order to date
Looksmaxxing is the most blackpill you can do even Wheat Waffles says losing weight increases smv and most blackpill channels say to looksmax(tails, BlackvsSilver, Dr Freeman, Inkwelltv)
From what I understand from the redpill is Game, Confidence, Money and Status is what women are attracted to.
@@razoredge6130 Uhhh... what if confidence, charisma, (I think this is what is meant by "game", we stopped saying that as we left the 90s) your job & wealth, your looks... what if all these matter in varying amounts to different women because interestingly enough, women are individuals? It's not a mathematical formula and you are assuredly single.
@@AdamOwenBrowning I agree with you. It does depend.
Wheat waffles is not even the worst blackpill youtuber. There's some (one is called 'Tails' I think) who think wheat waffles isn't even blackpilled enough and gives people too much hope.
The blackpill trend in general is not a healthy one, I understand the mainstream narrative of "just be yourself" doesn't actually work all the time but deciding to do nothing but complain and resent the world is only going to make things worse.
"Black Pill Jesus" is less preachy (oddly enough..) than Tails, but just as hard hitting.
@@buddyboyingtonesq.231 Tails is the only one who doesn't cope with morals and misogyny at least + gives actual advice intead of ranting. That's why he's my favorite
@@Averageenjoyer-br1zm Jesus is all about them morals, mainly cuz of his father....
Z00mER TradER>>>>
Yeah telling people happy b.s sweet nothings and giving false hope is really so much better than just giving people thr cold hard truth. Lol. You're one of these people who thinks supporting others delusion is virtuous.
Manletism? I prefer the term “dwarfmaxxing”
You may hate what Wheat waffles says, but honestly women do agree with a lot of what he says. But that's why you shouldn't base your self worth on what women think of you. The black pill can destroy some people, but it can be the best thing to ever happen to others. Pros and cons
The black pill helped me realize I'm worthless to women and genetic determinism has dictated that it's over for me.
@nnnnnnnnnn5654 The creator definitely cares as he's not feeding me some delusional nonsense that "there's someone for everyone".
I know where I stand, I know that I'm an undesirable sub5 manlet, beancel that will never attract any girl.
And it's not about how I feel, it's about reality. You said the creator makes me feel small and useless, that's exactly how women see me. Small and useless, I'd rather be told the truth.
@@nnnnnnnnnn5654they care because if they didn’t they’d be trying to lie to us. Then again wheat waffles isn’t the best example.
@@UserRobot215you are actually retarded
@@nnnnnnnnnn5654 and the doompill merchant is totally not making money off his pitiful subscribers....
Kumail Nanjiani is less attractive now that he's jacked? Laughable. The guy looks like a Greek god
Yea the idea that it made his situation "worse" is beyond absurd.
So wheat waffle is out there improving himself while making sure nobody else even consider doing so... what a truly despicable human being !
No, he’s saying when it can actually help and when it won’t.
WW is GOAT 🐐
@@DMHR100 big brain time
@@CenkHoca he’s actually decoding the fact society consider young men as shit. Just spreading the truth.
@@DMHR100 it will always help tf?!? your gonna look better jacked than being fat or skinny fat
I agree with a lot of your points.
I don't see it as pessimism though and being aware of black pill and how relevant looks are to women is important.
black pill encourages looks maxing and gym does that so he is not against it.
he's saying that if you are a 3 or 4 out of 10 after looks maxing you can try real hard and get rich all that good stuff, women will just play you and take your money, or reject you
I think it's better and healthier to give up if you are not in a favourable position.
It's like trying to get in the NBA if you are 5 '1, you should play to your strenghts.
The game is much harder and the juice is not worth the squeeze at that point
Well said man. This is possibly the most docile and thoughtful way to express the dilemma to people who only regurgitate sweet nothings or the I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a gut who has a gf and gets action, and they never mention whether its a hooker, methhead, or otherwise or is 2-5.
Agree 1000% but this clown just wants us to buy his book.. lol if your below average height hitting the gym will have drastically lower results in terms for attracting women i see all these copers in the comment saying we dont do it for female approval.. 😂 common guys we all know a big reason for hitting the gym and getting muscles is for female attention… if you go to the gym purelyy for feeling good then more power to you but stop coping though
"I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"- a pessimist
Pessimism is realism
@@Juve-vo3iehas no understanding of pessimism and realism
@@Tank_lover I mean If you look at all the awful things that occur in this world, it’s safe to say that being pessimistic is being real. If you’re optimistic, you’re just deluding yourself into thinking life is all sunshine and rainbows.
@@Juve-vo3ie When you're an optimist, you tend to see the brighter side of things, and you're convinced that things are getting better. You tend to believe in people, and you think that life's really pretty good and getting better by the day. You look at challenges as bright, shining reward systems, just waiting for you to collect them through effort and positive attitude. The opposite of the optimist is the pessimist, who tends to see everything in as negative and dark a light as possible. The pessimist believes that things are bad, and that they're going to get worse.
The realist tries to see things as they really are, and expects the future to act according to probabilities and tendencies. When you're a realist, you tend to see people as complex combinations of impulses and thoughts, which can slide toward positive or negative behaviors. You see challenges as inevitable aspects of life, which can get in the way or move you toward goals, depending upon how you respond to them.
@@Tank_lover while if this is the case then why can’t I think of myself as both a realist AND a pessimist? Or is your red pill cult going to flame me for that too?
4:43 The picture on the left side of the screen is Joe Fazer. A UA-camr from the UK who makes content mainly on fitness-related topics. His entire channel is mostly based on the idea that a lanky, weak and scrawny-looking, 110-lbs teenager with plenty of insecurities about his body/appearance can in fact turn things around by consistenly hitting the gym OVER THE YEARS while GAINING WEIGHT. Now he weighs around 185 lbs (that is a 75-lbs increase from where he started) and has some respectable numbers in time tested lifts.
I just think that is pathetic and absolutely appalling to see that some people on this platform seek to spread a defeatist mindset of a loser who is predetermined to amount to nothing in life despite hard work. But I'd say it is even more stupid to find out that these morons are trying to further their black-pill agenda by using images of those who actually prove their entire worldview wrong.
P.S. Not trying to white knight Joe (not a fan boy). I just happen to know that that's his picture because I'm actually making a reaction video on one of his latest videos (FYI)
He just did a face reveal and long interview in 1STMAN's channel if you wanna do more content on this guy. I feel like he tries to just waltz through criticism and resume as usual but shit like this should temper that.
Going to the gym and exercising will benefit EVERYONE. Telling someone they shouldn't bother working out immediately kills everything else he says.
As for the manlets, I guess he doesn't realize that alot of these dudes you see on the gram super muscular with alot of girls are like 5 foot 6. Hell look at someone like Jeff nippard or Russell orhi. Both of them are short as hell. Being taller helps but being short doesn't disqualify you
Right. Surely an athletic looking 5'7 guy is more attractive and desirable than a unathletic, sedentary 5'7 guy.
Woe is me. Easier to convince themselves that they're irredemibal than actually put in a small effort. Sad really.
Yes , if being short was so detrimental that wheat waffles claim. Then short people would have been breed out of the gene pool thousands of years ago, which is not true
@@smolgok384 it's basically like saying "if you have one flaw, you're out of luck and should just give up"
I have a great friend from Philly. He's 5'4" on a good day. He's fit, professionally successful, and a decent, kind human being with hobbies. His wife is at least three inches taller, a drop-dead gorgeous blonde marathoner, with a pharmacy degree. High quality women are into all kinds of men.
You want to date successfully? Get a job, your own place, and a hobby. And be okay with rejection. It happens to everyone. Keep getting out there.
@@smolgok384 What matters most is being independent, confident, and productive in both work and free time.
Dang. Yesterday, Wheat waffle's videos first came up suggested on my feed. After watching a few of them, I thought to myself let me check Natural hypertrophy's channel, he must have already dissected this guy's views and offered critic and enlightenment. And here is Geoff, stepping forward and attending to the task.
What they think is unattractive:
- Being short/skinny
- Having an average face
- Not being famous/rich
- Not being muscular
What actually is (way more) unattractive:
- Being full of (penis)envy/resentment
- Rating women on a scale of 1-10
- Being insecure
- Being negative
- Talking about concepts such as 'Sexual Market Value'
@Matt Joseph Not saying they don't care, but it isn't everything. Hopefully you have more to offer than appearances and money/status. Hopefully you can meet a woman that values other things than that.
Sure, SOME women will ONLY go for that, but not all. And not women worth dating long term, if u ask me.
Plenty, like 80% of my friends/relatives have wives or gf, kids, cars, houses and lead a happy life even though they don't live up to the standards people talk about on YT/incel culture.
Never thought you’d cover content like this, but I’m so glad you did. Blackpill channels like WheatWaffles do SO much damage to young men’s self-image, and it’s especially insidious since most people who watch this incel fuel are young guys whose facial and aesthetic changes are far from over. What I think most of these dudes fail to realize is that you have far more control over your appearance than you might think, but transforming your looks requires a wholesale lifestyle change. You start working out, you start seeing results which leads you to optimize your nutrition with healthy foods. Your skin starts to clear, and you invest in a skincare routine. As you build muscle and lose fat, you buy some new clothes and get a new haircut. You start going out more and interacting with people in the real world who aren’t brain-poisoned by online incel forums. There is indeed hope for anybody who seeks it, but I feel like these blackpill losers tell themselves their genetics are the end all be all in order to avoid putting in the work. Funny enough, just like how GShred puts everything on genetics and blackpills his own audience that way. Is GShred creating incels?
Funny you could be straight-up ugly and drowning in wet-wet in the 90s and 00s. All you had to do was be cool.
That's not the point, the point is that ugly people get treated like shit and having to looksmax just to be treated With respect gives me so much pain😖😣😞
@@milklover3158 ugly people do not get treated like shit as a de facto reality. The MAJORITY of people in the world are ugly. Get off of Instagram for two fucking minutes and look around at normal people. Develop a personality, be enjoyable to be around, stop caring so much about looks, and delete social media. Your life will be much better.
Gymbros definitely do more damage to boys self image
*_“You're C∅ping,C∅ping and S££thing,_*
*_You Just Won't Accept The Truth”_*
It's been a while since a video put out from someone I've never heard of before pissed me off this much. I HATE this type of thinking with a PASSION! I hate that people see this way of thinking as "deep" or even "realistic". It's about as deep as a petri dish and as realistic as a Dr. Suess book. I've always said that unrelenting pessimism is just as naive as unrelenting optimism. True realism takes both the positive AND negative outcomes into account.
It's like a pissed of high school read Nietzsche, failed to actually even partially understood him, then mentally masturbated to Holden Caufield and Ayn Rand and called it good.
Cope
cringe
@@fred_g7802 yeah
2k subs in a week bro! Hell yeah! You’re on a rampage and the message you send , the shit you spread is powerfull. Full support here. 💪💪🤘
Respect for calling out this toxic garbage
As a manlet myself (5.5 or 5.6, 167cm) I've never, but never had any issues dating. Just until I started watching more "self improvement -gym" content i found out that it's a problem lol and I'm also balding at 24...
I don’t believe in you for a second
@@josecarlosxyz maybe I should clarify that I've never been in the united states? I've been in Europe and south America, maybe those places don't care about height, but to be honest I doubt the difference is that much...
Fellow short guy here (5'6) also never had any issues with 1 night relationships, or long term. Just having confidence in yourself, caring about your physical and mental health, and always trying to improve will do wonders. As for the balding part, well that started at 28 for me and as of last year I've been going full bald. If it's noticeably balding then I suggest either shaving it all off, or razor that skull smooth. Women prefer bald over balding lol.
I'm more in the 170cm range but again literally it never made a difference with women. However, I *thought* it did when I was generally down on myself and couldn't get a date. Once I felt good about myself, I realized that sure some girls will never give me time of day, but most don't care that much
Alpha Destiny, is that you?)
GVS your existence is literally the counter to his video lol
Damn bruh you callin my boi ugly?
A very lanky buddy of mine is in a college frat and complained non stop about being a hard gainer because he ate a big surplus and worked out regularly. I tried to tell him that a terrible sleep schedule and drinking 20+ beers a week is gonna have a huge impact and is probably the main thing holding him back... Anyway he ignored me and now takes growth hormone.....It's 'working' but I just think its dumb to hop on drugs when lifestyle changes would do more.
Mfw you destroy your test production with bad habits so now you permanently destroy your test production with roids
I've discussed my friend about the effect of gaining muscle before and we had similar experiences: as soon as we got big and strong, people started to give us more attention (male and female, sexual and not sexual) and they started to really listen when we spoke. And I'm a slightly short guy (174cm) with a mediocre face and my friend is a bit taller.
174 is not short, except of course if you are Danish.
Pointing out how absurd and cruel reality is is not going to win people over to your side. This isn't something to celebrate, and all of the people lacking self awareness in your anecdote are the reason I train myself to implant a negative bias against attractive people.
Maybe people are scare of you because you are muscular? It is something different from being attractive.
174.... I would literally stomp 100 puppies to be that height. You have no fucking idea
100% agree. Saying that people will look worse by working out is dumbest thing I've heard in a while
on the "gymcelling" thing like...maybe some people go to the gym for themselves and not so that they can fantasize about getting their highschool sweetheart back.
I'm 6'2 and I'm 22 right now I was 235 lbs when I was 20. My brother took me on a 4 mile run in the middle of spring and it made me want to die but it showed me that if I just hung in there the pace didn't matter as long as I was at least jogging. At first I did a comfortable 2 miles then I went a little further and further still until I could do the 4 mile circuit my brother showed me. I was running every other day and changed my diet to whole foods only no sugar that didn't come from fruit. I eventually got comfortable running 12 miles in one go.. Over the course of 7 months I got down to 185 at my lowest. I'm now back up at 210 with more fat than I'd like but also more muscle mass than I've ever had. I feel way better than when I was 19 and to make that transformation it took a constant effort and to make that effort I had to believe it was worth it that I could make my life better by trying hard. Sucks that a lot of people don't have that belief in their own potential.
@/\/igger My brother, I only said that I became healthier and I did. I don't know why you took the trouble to write this but no matter what your situation is you can improve yourself. In the world we live in you will be left behind if you dont make an effort and even if it doesn't work the only thing I know that works less than trying is not trying. (PS after losing 50 lbs I can tell you it very much did improve my jaw line)
I feel like this waffles guy just got dumped and is taking it out on the internet.
I think he is gettt paid by mr soros
He sounds like someone who got rejected by a girl when he was 11 and refuses to get over it.
He’s a pizza delivery guy in college. He has zero life experience. Look up the exposed videos on here by “John Anthony Lifestyle”
@Matt cope, he got a girlfriend because he was blackpilled, blackpill gives the only legit advise
@@milklover3158 touch grass
Black pill is a sorry excuse to not improve yourself mentally, financially, and physically. This is why, when the going gets tough, I’m going by this quote from a music video that I saw recently.
“You need to be a soldier. You have to go out there, into the world and say, hey I know the situation is $&%ed up. Hey, I know life isn’t fair. U just have to enjoy it for what it is.”
Anything that helps me improve my life is a straight up bonus. ✊🏻✊🏻
It's not an excuse, it's understanding your hand dealt in life.
@@The_Lovey_Informer by giving up? By just rotting in a pool of a vicious cycle of misery that u put onto yourself because of your looks? Also, u’d rather be on welfare because of your looks?! That’s not what I’m gonna do. Black pill is poison to me. Nothing more nothing less.
@@The_Lovey_Informerthat's indeed correct
Thanks for releasing this. I'm glad the UA-cam algorithm helped me to find this video because I really needed it after watching those wheat waffle videos
What is the cure for such disorders? Beatings.
The worst thing is that 95% of guys have this deterministic thinking about everything. A very common example in the fitness industry is the term "genetics", which is used as a universal and fatalistic excuse to simplify everything, but it actually doesn't say much about physique, since there are thousands of factors that determine a good physique or bad.
Every guy can’t get a girl or sleep with attractive women
I do wonder with that kind of outlook at life how long can you last in the world? That is just so sad mate :(
As someone who used to wallow in this kind of miserable content, you don't. You spend more and more time hidden away in your room living on the internet. It becomes painful to go outside and risk seeing an attractive woman. You'll feel desire, followed by anxiety, then a whole lot of self-pity and hatred (both of yourself and of the random woman). It's even worse if she's with some guy. There's a positive feedback loop where the more miserable you become, the more you seek this type of garbage out because at least your delusional despair and self-hatred will be validated. This type of shit absolutely leads to suicidal tendencies. They'll explicitly advocate LDAR (lay down and rot).
I am turkesterone pilled gained 4 lbs a month with my cookbook from G-Shred 🤓
Never thought I’d see the day of Geoff making a video on Wheat Whaffles.
Based response and I really hope it helps pull some folk out of the blackpill mindset.
JustignoreRealityBro
JustBeDelusi0nalTheory
@@AbuBased731 the fact you had to edit this lmfao
Feel sorry for the kids that get sucked into that garbage
@Matt Joseph If that's your profile pic, you aint even remotely ugly man, get a grip
Is it possible that having a shitty or defeatist attitude is a great way to be unattractive to anyone? Who the hell would want to be around someone that thinks life is terrible AND there's nothing they can do to improve their situation? That would be exhausting.
Who the hell wants to be around delusional people thinking life is all sunshine and lavender 🤔
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy that only gets further reinforced by their echo chamber. Absolutely no one is attracted to people with defeatist attitudes and a shitty outlook on life. They never stop to think that maybe the problem doesn’t lie in how women think, but in how they themselves think. It may seem easier to blame women rather than improving themselves, but it most certainly isn’t. If they’d stop wallowing in their own self pity and get to work on the aspects of themselves they can improve, they’d become more attractive to everyone. Improving yourself makes you more attractive to yourself. That in itself will make you more attractive to others.
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy that only gets further reinforced by their echo chamber. Absolutely no one is attracted to people with defeatist attitudes and a shitty outlook on life. They never stop to think that maybe the problem doesn’t lie in how women think, but in how they themselves think. It may seem easier to blame women rather than improving themselves, but it most certainly isn’t. If they’d stop wallowing in their own self pity and get to work on the aspects of themselves they can improve, they’d become more attractive to everyone. Improving yourself makes you more attractive to yourself. That in itself will make you more attractive to others.
Lol wrong. He’s literally had girlfriends so….
@@Juve-vo3ie so... What? Or, have you been one of them?
To be a *"black piller"* is to be a coward. It means that you look at life and say *"I quit."* It's pathetic. You have ONE LIFE to live. Don't waste it wallowing around in self pity.
Flawed logic. Quitting people is a better option than quitting life. Blackpill isn't even about quitting, it's understanding that society is always against you
Blackpill isn't quiting life It's quiting dating because you have self awareness. And it also involves quiting any profession that requires in person social interaction because you understand the massive disadvantage you have when it comes to how people will treat you. That's why I'm a CNC Programmer, I looked in the mirror and decided that my time would be better spent working with machines and numbers rather than people. I'd probably be treated like shit if I worked in the service industry.
@@The_Lovey_Informerpathetic coward
@@The_Lovey_Informerright. which is a bad mentality. cause society isn't out to get you in particular, and fearing that limits your own potential in your mind.
@@kamo7293okay he made an error black pill is literally your card you been dealt with if your sub 5 your card is already against you it like dog in a wolf world not gonna work.
This video was great stuff. Black pill content is such a toxic gateway to some pretty horrible places. Just hearing a few clips of this channel is enough to ruin my day
I am glad you addressed something like this. Given, the algorithm recommended his stuff a few times, so I saw some vids out of curiosity. He has made some decent points in a few videos, such as his video on going clubbing. However, his videos are incredibly depressing and I could tell when all of the optimism was being drained out of me. I had to stop, because I didn't want to share that pessimistic attitude, especially his views on going to the gym. I've been lifting for around 2 years now and have felt so much more confident and stronger than before lifting. Be the best you for you. The right woman will come along.
I love how he included a picture of Joe Fazer at 4:49 as an example for "lankletism", just look at this man now and tell me you cant have an aesthetic body😂 Just shows how ridiculous this content is...
blackpill only applies to deformed people like me... not for the normal person
This wheat waffle guy is more picky than any woman I've ever met haha.
Of all seriousness...this guy seems to be perhaps reflecting alot of his own insecurities. He has given up, so he urges other men to give up too.
What an absolutely disgusting and toxic message. Makes me really sad honestly.
Thank you for making this video, Geodude! This is an extremely important video.
He is a scammer
@@inspektorsx683 nope he's a role model for men
@@iminlove1148 nope he isn't
@@iminlove1148 he's a role model for losers who like to cope
@@SergyMilitaryRankings that's funny .your the only one coping rn
Was never expecting this cross over lmao
Thank You so much Geoffrey. This guy fucked up my mindset after consuming his content. Your doing the lords work debunking these videos
GOATED CONTENT
Urs I mean not wheat waffles
I had few girls that had crush on me in college, but I was not confident enough and have social anxiety due to childhood traumas. I never believed in those pill stuff, because everything was the opposite for me in life. Now I finally let go of all desires for women, now I'm free, I love being alone, planning to travel the world after that I'll move to somewhere remote, in nature, I love the survival stuff :)
Lucky that girls had crush on you. I am 21 and I never had a girlfriend. I had been using tinder, bumble and hinge for almost a month but not even a single match. I have 4 crushes on real life. 3 are from my college and are 18-20 year olds and another is 23 or 24 from another institute. I am too shy but finally managed to get the name of 2 of my crushes and follow them on Instagram and finally messaged one of them and was really happy when finally one of the crush who is 19 and in 2nd year replied to me. I didn't say her yet that I have crush on her but I am in last year of college and will be graduating by August end or Sept first week so would I have any chance with her and should I try to date her?
@@manosijthehero3686 if you don’t try you have already lost.
Im so sorry bro, i used to be where you were, but after some brutal self work, I was able to pull 6 girls within a year, and the 7th girl ended up being someone really special and we have been dating for 4 years. You really just have to force yourself in as many social situations as possible. Even after I mostly conquered my social anxiety, it would still come back at the start of a night going out. This is normal, and I found that my routine was so introduce myself to a fee people I really have no interest talking to, and trying to get away with saying the most ridiculous stiff possible. This seeming to quickly remind me that people really dont care that much and I dont need to worry.
@@DoomCookie but I am still kinda scared that what if she blocked me on Instagram and badly rejected me after I say her that I have a crush on her. And will it still work if I am gonna graduate college by August end or first week of Sept and she will just get into 3rd year? I really like her and she is really pretty.
@@user-yy4ux9zf4r Appreciate your message. I'm glad you conquered your social anxiety, it's no joke and takes big effort. Now I don't have any desires for women anymore, I've been doing a lot of extreme mental work for more than 4 years especially to let go of my wildest desires. My end goal is to buy some remote land far away from population and build a sustainable settlement there and live a solitary life. I might consider adopting many kids in the future, they can get all my love. I don't think any typical modern women would love that lifestyle, nor they have the same values as me. I need peace, I suffered enough :)
It's about time someone in the fitness industry brought this matter into light. The backpill ideology is tearing apart the fitness industry by taking hope away from men while remaining in the shadows.
Imo it's not gonna help. Alot of people came at these dudes and they just are viewed by all the stans as haters. Wheat waffles literally just made a video about him vs haters
@General Kinetics
I'm pretty sure telling men that they will remain a loser no matter what they do is screwing them up more than all of that combined
@@violetazur Accepting where you are in life(being a loser) is liberating than coping about it.
@@epicotakugamer4930 Accepting being a loser and giving up because of being a loser are completely distinct. I am a loser myself but I still haven't given up yet
@@violetazur Giving up on what you can't get outside your control(whether it's genetics or not) is good because that means you can try to focus on other aspects of your life or just work around it.
Ive came across this wheat waffle dude a few times.
I personally dont think it makes sense to try to debate / debunk his shit. He is just way too out of touch with the real world to even take his points serioud
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He probably won't change his mind, but maybe some of his impressionable viewers can be helped.
No its very important se debate this shit. It spreads and infects people.
Explain how he is
@@BitchChill ?
Thanks man. Good talk.
Exercising isnt just for looks anyway even if it is the biggest driving force. Health improves the quality of life, productivity and is essential for happiness.
This is a very serious topic.
People are way too concerned about small things that do not matter. There are workouts for slimming calves. Who cares if someone has fat calves.
If you look at world leaders or entrepreneurs, very few of them are good-looking. They are successful because they focused on things that matter instead of crying about looks.
Lol 'just buy my book bro' what a joke
Thanks for shedding light on the youtube blackpilled incel community. I stumbled upon the wheat waffles channel couple months ago and found that the contest just radiated depression. Many young men fall into despair and pessimism through this kind of content.
Blackpill is absolute Truth 💯
thank you so much man, you helped me feel better and to make new plans to work out more
You lost me at "I dont really like the term manlet" and elaborating on why you think it is shitty to make fun of someones size or male pattern baldness.
The truth is that women are ruthless, they ridicule short men and most women I have dated would never date a man that is shorter than them or bald.
It is not about what you dont like or what you think, it is about reality. You are not a woman, Goeffrey, and you not liking that men get ridiculed for their height or looks does not change a single thing about their reality.
I never said height doesn't matter to women, in fact in this very video I said it did. Which...you presumably watched. Or maybe just gave up after one statement you didn't agree with. My point is there's also no need to be unnecessarily mean about height. Or anything.
I literally got called a 2/10 for constructively criticising the black pill ideology.
Why would you care about it?
I am a beeg lanky
Yet I won't surrender ✊️
4 months gym so far
Tons of strength gains
Only 3lbs of weight gain 🙀
Nice brah!
MOAR CALORIES!!
I don't like the pills but you do realize as a white dude in China you're playing on easy mode?
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Lmao JBW-Maxxer?
Well imagine my shock!!!!!