To be honest, with the technology we have today, "not wanting to put prosthetics on the actor" is NOT a valid excuse. Like, back in 1977, sure I get it, but today? YOU HAVE CGI JUST USE THAT
The reason Katee Sackhoff looks like Bo Katan is because the character's appearance was based on her from the beginning. Filoni had Katee in mind when he created Bo for her to voice in CW and also hoped she'd get to play her in live action eventually, so this was always the plan
Katee Sackhoff recently told in one episode of her Podcast that Bo Catan was designed after the image of Dave Filonis Wife. I honstly don´t know wether Katee Sackhoff did play a part in the Character design of Bo Katan but Dave Filonis first intentions was, as i said based on his Wife. It was by the way the Interview with Sam Witwer on her UA-cam Channel where she told this Story.
I heard that. It’s why she’s probably my favorite animation to live action adaptation. Though I freaked with Thrawn and Ezra too. All I cared about with Thrawn was the voice and the charisma and they nailed both.
I just wanted to add to the Ahsoka bit. They have also done longer lekku in live action before. Shaak Ti is also a Togruta and she had long ass lekku. Granted, Shaak Ti didn't have to move very much with the prosthetics on, thus having them that long would be impractical for more acrobatic scenes. But even still, they could've found some kind of way to get longer lekku and still made the costume maneuverable. There are many ways to get good looking results without sacrificing functionality. Other than that, I do agree that Rosario Dawson is the perfect casting for Ahsoka and her performance is amazing.
Hell they could have cgid them And I'm going to have to respectfully disagree roasrio kind if vaguely looks like ahsoka but just doesn't act like her she's wooden and acts uninterested most the time and dint give me the she's older she acts differently crap if we didnt know that was ahsoka would you really think she is roasrio is just an orange lady But the girl who played younger ahsoka during the flashbacks she did a good job
@@wordlesslfiddling Ever since Ahsoka left the Jedi Order, she has been in a state of uncertainty it doesn't matter how much time has passed. Once you learn the results it will have an impact on you. Now could Rosario Dawson be a bit more expressive for sure. However, her personality is comparable to an older Ahsoka from Rebels which was a lot more neutral in mind. She's 47 in terms of lore, people around this age aren't going to magically act like a child or a teenager, they have their own worries issues, and limitations due to age. Aside from this Ahsoka is also struggling to balance both the Light and Dark since she is a Grey Jedi and their code is. "Flowing Through All There is Balance There is no peace without A passion to create Knowledge stagnates without The Strength to Act There is Freedom in Life There is a purpose in Death The force is all things and I am the Force" Obviously, there are different ways to write this but all dictate the same thing in the show it shows she fears to let the dark side out as she fears it will consume her. Which is also now affecting her own decision-making.
Wasn't there a scene in the arc with the brother, sister, and father where an older Ahsoka comes up in a vision to padaway Ahsoka warning her of the dangers ahead? I vaguely remember her Lekku were much longer. Guess you can say that is just a vision and not a real version of her but still, would've been cool to see something like that
@@sinisterisrandom8537Mate, grey Jedi aren’t a canon thing. Closest thing is maverick like Jedi (Qui-Gon Jinn). Also just because Ashoka has aged doesn’t mean that it is a sensible choice to vastly change her characteristics without explaining why. And her main characteristics is her compassion and stubbornness with witty humour sprinkled around it. She went from an energetic and compassionate character in clone wars to an older and more reserved version in rebels (great character development) to an emotionless and bland wooden imitation in mandolin and her own show. And as a big Ashoka fan (from clone wars and rebels at least, I rly disliked her in her own show - her appearance in mando was iffy but I could stand it).
At least the Grand Inquisitor actually has an explanation for his different appearance, as Reva likely destroyed one of his stomachs when she stabbed him, leaving him with only one. This means that it’d be much harder for him to gain weight, leading to him becoming skinnier as we see in Rebels. It’s still silly though, and he should’ve just looked the same from the start, but at least it can be explained
I do agree but in the earth Vader comics which are before obi wan he is skinnier, but Disney has changed details in books and comics before. But I do really like this explanation.
@@IrokCorrander that could just be chalked up to the art style. Comic books aren’t necessarily known for depicting the most realistic visuals. But I still think the Inquisitor should have just been skinny in the show and actually looked like a Pau’an instead of having to come up with random explanations to explain the discrepancy.
@@Сайтамен it’s xenobiology, Pau’ans likely don’t operate the same way as humans in real life. And also, you could absolutely live with one kidney. Ever heard of a kidney transplant?
7:59 So. At first I was going to go on a tangent about how Doug Chiang (the guy speaking) was the art director for the prequels and how I’m so confused he would have messed this up, BUT, I just looked into that a bit further and apparently he only worked on 1 and 2, not 3. So I suppose it’s fair he didn’t realize they had created that design already, but it’s a bummer no one else thought to relay that to him. He has done great work for Star Wars.
Yeah, there is no doubt he's talented af. Ignoring the fact that The Grand Inquisitor was a preexisting character. It's actually a good design, and it looks good for a TV show budget.
Yeah but for a a guy in his position it is the absolute minimum to know something like that. Even if he didnt work on episode 3, he should have watched it, but even that wouldnt be necessary if he just googled Grand Inquisitor species. Stop finding excuses for people who mess up.
Regarding the eyes: Harry Potter in the books famously inherited his mom's green eyes. When shooting the first movie they actually tried to give him contacts, but either he had an allergic reaction or they hurt him in general (contacts for kids can be difficult), so Daniel Radcliffe played the role with his normal gray eyes. To maintain eye continuity, the studio cast the also gray-eyed Geraldine Somerville as the adult Lily Potter. Years later, Ellie Darcey-Alden was cast to play young Lily. She in turn has brown eyes, so they tried contacts again, but similarly to Daniel Radcliffe, she had some sort of reaction, so she played the role without them. Her part was pretty short, so I think after effects could have done the trick, but that wasn't done for some reason. TLDR: Contacts, especially with children, seem to be kind of a hassle.
Cad banes voice sounded great cause it was the voice actor, corey burton, who voiced him again. Lars mikkelson also has crazy natural high cheekbones so the only prosthetics used was his forehead and the actor has a real lanky muscular body(hes also 6,4"), the reason he has a gut is simply the clothes. He also voiced him in the show. Almost all SW clothes on actors makes them look bigger. Unless its like a shirt, pants, dress and maybe vest or sweater. Rosario Dawson had 14yr old Ahsoka lekku for practical purposes. As another commenter said, the actress for shaak ti didn't move around much and it was BECAUSE of the lekku and montrails. They eere so big she had trouble just walking! I mean Ahsoka is Dave Filoni's baby, you really think he wouldn't do everything possible to have her perfect in live action? It just can't be done in some instances. Almost all the characters on the list were created or used by Dave Filoni when he was doing animation and hes George Lucas' apprentice. You can ask the guy anything about SW its continuity etc and he knows it (like Grand Inquisitors race, Paawan, being in live action first) but he comes from an animation background. Doug Chiang had to wrangle him in a bit cause Filoni wanted the characters 100% accurate. Good list overall but just wanted to give you a bit more info (and opinion)on everything
I'm aware of all this, but thanks. Also, that gut is not just a side effect of "the cloths". Lars has a gut. I've seen him interviews. I am glad they casted him in live action because he does have similar bone structure to Thrawn except for the forehead. That's what I was referring too when I said "prosthetics". Plus I love his thrawn voice. In regards to Ahsoka, I am already aware as to why her Lekku are so short. But the reasoning is irrelevant because I was ranking it on accuracy. Anyway I'm glad you liked the video dude. What's your what's your ranking?
I liked the video but I have 1 complaint, to say Doug Chiang has no knowledge of Star Wars is just laughably incorrect. Doug worked on almost everything Star Wars since Phantom Menace, he was Lucas’s right hand man for designs, if you want to design something you go to Doug
Doug was likely stuck with a no-win situation. The actor was cast likely for performance reasons and nothing else, and either he didn’t want to act through a huge prosthetic or the budget wouldn’t allow for that kind of daily makeup expense. That left Doug with the impossible task of not only redesigning the character based on these limitations but also coming up with a plausible explanation for why (without throwing anyone under the bus).
Nice video! The edits made me laugh fr. I pretty much agree with your list 99%! Only thing I would say is to give more credit to Doug Chiang, as he worked on the Prequels and was designing for Star Wars before Disney. I think something went wrong along the way with how the inquisitor turned out. I personally think it was the actor that screwed the way he looks.
It’s weird I bet the real reason was actually wanting to cut down on budget/hassle with the prosthetics and they didn’t actually forget we’ve seen his species in live action as I’m pretty sure Doug Chiang had involvement with designing the Pau’an if not definitely has seen them before
Sabine was cocky with Ezra, but she almost always followed orders. Disrespecting your fallen comrades by ignoring the ceremony without any reason and even endangering the pilots is a whole another level of a bitch. Not to mention trading the galaxy's safety for a chance to see Ezra again...
So about Ahsoka’s Lekku. Dave Filloni addressed this when she was introduced in the Mandalorian Season 2. He stated that they did in fact have the longer Lekku, to match her Rebels appearance. But the Lekku were so heavy and bulky that it nearly made it impossible for Rosario to do ANY stunts.
I wonder if they could have used CGI for for her head things in the action scenes, and just had the long ones on for talking scenes. I think marvel kinda does something like that all the time.
I'm slightly disappointed you didn't mention how Zeb's species, Lasats, have made a semi-live-action appearance. Cal Kestis's master in Jedi: Fallen Order was a Lasat, so you could have said it was the closest thing before Mando season 3 to a live-action transition.
Honestly Ezra is probably my number 1. He was easily the best cast in the Ahsoka cast except David Tennant and Clancy Brown obviously. He was so well cast I don’t even care that his hair isn’t blue anymore. You could just say it darkened with age. I also love how he looks like Jesus. Also you actually forgot another character from Rebels in Ahsoka. The senator Ryder introduces to cover for Sabine’s absence is Jai Kell who was Ezra’s classmate when he was at the stormtrooper academy and later helped in the last few episodes to free Lothal.
The weird thing about the Grand Inquisitor in Kenobi is the man in that clip is Doug Chiang. He was one of the lead concept artists for the prequels. So this man not only worked for Lucas while the Pau'an race was originally developed, I think it's likely he personally designed the Pau'an race for ROTS. Doug Chiang is great, his art and ideas are amazing, but that clip of him is weird.
Damn, didn't love all the takes on here but you nailed Zeb. The whole process of live-action to animation, and the reverse. That's exactly why he looks perfect.
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The thing I don't get is that they literally modeled the Grand Inquisitor after Jason Isaacs in the show and had him voice him and then didn't bother getting him back like that's his face it's not even that exaggerated
Grand Inquisitor feels even more like a slap in the face because the voice actor for him in the show, Jason Isaacs, has stated that he would have loved to play Grant Inquisitor in live action, and he would have been perfect for it.
It could be fun to see the reverse, like animated adaptations of live action characters. Obviously there'd be a loooot more, so it could be divided like just the characters from the Original Trilogy for example, as those won't appear in the Clone Wars too much, etc.
In my opinion it was more distracting when they use the colored contacts on Hera and Ezra bc it just looks so unnatural I’d prefer a small continuity error with the eye color over Ezra’s weird looking eyes in the live action show
7:13 This guy worked on "Revenge of the Sith." He's been at Lucasfilm for decades. He's actually in the behind the scenes documentaries on the Sith DVD and is one of their primary concept artists. He was ignorant, he just plum forgot. XD
Lothal Senator Jai Kell from the Ahsoka show was such a good adaptation he was off the charts hence why he didn’t make the video (He was a cadet in Rebels S1 and also had a role in the Season 4 final episodes)
This was probably already said in the comments, but the reason her Lekku is so short was because it was getting in the way of Rosario's fighting scenes.... But once again, if you look at Shaak' Ti's Lekku in the movies.. they are the length they are supposed to be... You do see he fight as well. So maybe Ahsok'a costume designer should take notes, or make Ahsok'a Lekku out of the same material that they made Shakk' Ti's rather than whatever foam rubber they made Ahsoka's out of!
One thing that baffles me every time I see it is when the film crew forgets to give the characters their contact lenses. Mythrol (the blue alien guy from The Mandalorian) has a scene in Season 2 where he suddenly has brown eyes, and it's a close-up shot of his face... HOW CAN YOU FORGET THE CONTACT LENSES in such a shot? And why does the SFX crew not correct that mistake afterwards? 😪
It's crazy to me that Obi-Wan Kenobi was planned for YEARS before it even started production and it was still a complete rush job, right down to the looks of important characters. I don't blame the makeup team, I assume they were given really shitty deadlines and instruction, but the Grand Inquisitor and Fifth Brother were SO messed up
My biggest problem with the costumes is they're all so clean, and it's not just the costumes. All the scenes and areas just look so sterile. They should've invested in a bag of dirt and sprinkled it on everything.
I think every translation after Jason was good or great. Cad Bane is my favorite bounty hunter and I always felt he looked different from his species in clone wars anyway. Zeb not being in Ashoka was also a let down.
Pretty much agree with all of this. Idk what they did but the inquisitors look so bad and aren’t menacing at all. I hate the way they adapted Cad Bane but at least he’s kinda scary. Also I never in a million years would have noticed eye color but good on you for catching that. My only wish is that you covered not just their physical traits but the whole personalities and characterizations of these characters as well. Since that’s as (or more) important than how they look to me. But that’s probably beyond the scope of one video, and maybe worthy of another vid in the future? Great video!
I think they said something about Ahsoka's lekku's for Mando. They were forced to make them short so Rosario could move easily and duel normally, they didn't really want to make them short, but had no choice really. Some say that Shaak Ti in ROTS had long lekku's and there was no problem with that. Difference is that Shaak Ti was just in one scene and she was mainly sitting on the floor, Ahsoka was dueling in the show.
That’s not really an excuse to have it be shorter than it should be and they could have had it be shorter and use CG to have it look as long as it should
Chopper is my number one! He's a menace to society and I love him!
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Dang this was a great video. I would love to see something similar but the opposite, like top 15 worst character transitions from live action to animation if that makes sense. Yea itll be a lot more subjective becayse of the art style purposely making caricatures, but it would be a cool video nonetheless
I didn't include background characters or characters with very minor rolls. Hamato was in one scene in Star Wars Resistance. I also didn't include Jai Kell because he literally didn't have any lines in Ahsoka. At the beginning of the video, I did say I wasn't going to be including a few characters. I just did a "☝️🤓 Um Actually" to YOUR "☝️🤓 Um Actually".
Sabine in Ahsoka looks nothing like she does in Rebels. They had to add a piss filter to the scene where she looks at the mural with her Rebels incarnation drawn on it to distract from how different the actress looks from her animated incarnation (even ignoring the stylistic choices of Rebels' art-style).
I understand reworking Ahsoka and the GI for functionality in action sequences, more dynamic movement, long shoot days, etc. Obviously, being a background character and a main character with action sequences and extended scenes means there can't be the exact same design elements for several reasons, but it still feels too toned down. I wonder if there just weren't any other ways to approach them or how they could push those difficult design elements further. Doug Chiang's explanation of the Grand Iquisitor probably doesn't help that point though, lol.
9:54 damn how could you choose green contacts over the raw emotion his actual eyes bring to the scene. Gotta say Saw is one of my favorite animation to live action transitions, I woulda preferred they didn’t use contacts for ezra
Well thrawn was legends character we only see illustrations of him in book cover and comics cause there’s no pre existing actors back then before thrawn was adapted in animated and made him canon.
Wait no! Bo is definitely above Sabine if just slightly. I agree Sabine’s maneurisms and armor were great, but I need her doing more artsy stuff. Bo Katan always felt seamless to me. Though I do agree that Zeb was done really well. I’d give many of the characters that appeared for the first time in Ahsoka a chance to be tweaked in later projects. I bet Herra’s makeup and Thrawn’s prosthetics will be improved over time like with Ahsoka.
I agree that the Grand Inquisitor definently could have been portrayed better in live action, especially because he didn't have any fight scenes. Thus not needing significant adjustments like with Ahsoka's montrals. But you suggested that Doug Chang dosn't get Star Wars but he has been working on Star Wars since the phantom menace.
To be fair, the overall continuity, as you say, of the Torguta head tails is odd. They tend to slip in length, depending on the age, if I'm not mistaken. So her show has it well. But, yes, the Mandalorian did crack it. Then again, I'm biased because, to be fair, she's my favourite character in the whole Star Wars. Others share a second place, but she holds the sweet first spot. Sometimes shared, though that's very rare and she's never overthrown. Anyways, yeah, the head tails are odd in general, or so I've noticed, so...
I'll say this as to why Jason's eyes weren't green -- due to laws regarding children on sets of films and child actors, unlike an adult, they cannot coax or convince a child to wear contact lenses if they are allergic to them, and most film companies do NOT want to risk a child actor having an allergic reaction like that because it can be very serious and it will mean the child HAS to be hospitilised. No one wants that for a child. They likely decided in post not to digitally edit it, either, because that's a lot of money down the drain on a small detail that will look even worse if a few frames are missed in post-edit.
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Tbh, my main complaint about the grand inquisitor is the head, and it's NOT impossible AT ALL to get something close to that head shape. My uncle literally has the head shape from the cartoon. I wouldn't expect him to get hired, but you can't tell me you can't find some megamind lookin dude that's a half decent actor. And i personally think huyang got waxed or something. I do agree though, just a little less shiny
My top picks are probably Bo Katan and Ahsoka. Herra took some getting used to, but once I got over the different voice I think she was done well. Oh Thrawn is up there too though I need to see more of him before ranking him. I thinknk Ezra is just above Thrawn for me. Definitely in the top 3 to 5 for me. Of course characters like Cad Bane and Zeb were done well, these were just the ones that stuckck out to me when I thouhht about my rankings. Buut Bo’s definitely right at the top either way.
I think that the cartoon from the Holiday Special could be canon, but Boba Fett's first appearance was in a parade a few months ago before the Holiday Special released so it wouldn't count.
Couldn’t disagree more both Sabine and Ahsoka look terrible. The makeup and tails on Ahsoka look extremely fake like they didn’t even try to make it look real (the prequels did a better job with Aayla secura) As for Sabine the actress fits the part but her armour looks like absolute shit, it’s looks like cheap plastic. (They did a 10/10 job with bo but a terrible 3/10 job with Sabine. Awful. Bo and Ezra looked great though.
it's the fact that they could get the lekku right for shak ti for her 3 seconds of screen time in the prequels, why couldn't they do it for the main character of her own series!!
As much as a I agree with you that the Grand inquisitors design was flawed, to say "Disney Star Wars just hire people who know nothing about Star Wars" is ridiculous as the person you are talking about and clip you shown is literally Doug Chiang lol, he was lead for Lucasfilm's art department in 1995 as he was the design director for Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones and today is the senior vice president and executive design director of Lucasfilm. Yes the design is flawed but he definitely knew of the previous design from revenge of the Sith. Obviously there was massive issues at play behind the scenes that we don't know about. But Doug has done incredible work for years.
I feel that some of the characters would just have been animated Star Wars characters because if you make a character in animation you’ll struggle to make them in live action
I think every rebel in the Ahsoka show including Ahsoka was perfect! Yes, Ahsoka's lakuu, (sorry I can't spell that lol) in the Mandalorian were way too short, and it did kind've annoy me. In Ahsoka, they fixed them. They might not be quite as long as her animated counterpart, but being an actual headpiece, I completely understand, so it doesn't bother me anymore. Rasario was perfect casting! Just like Natasha was perfect casting for Sabine and so on!!! I don't have any problem with Sabine now, but when she first cut her hair, I admit, I didn't like it. That's how her hair is in Rebels though, so it grew on me, but I prefer her long hair she had if I'm being honest. Speaking of the Ahsoka show, I thought it was as perfect as Dave could make it!!! I love it with a passion, and everything made sense to me!!! 10/10!!! I'm so beyond happy season 2 got confirmed and Dave got promoted to CCO!!!!!
I feel most of these critiques are kinda petty. Like not everyone can put on colored contacts to match the eye color in their animated counterpart. To you it may be distracting, but to most people it’s barely even noticeable. Performance and portrayal matters most at the end of the day, and quite a number of them deserves higher spots on this list for performance alone.
To be honest, with the technology we have today, "not wanting to put prosthetics on the actor" is NOT a valid excuse. Like, back in 1977, sure I get it, but today?
YOU HAVE CGI JUST USE THAT
Disney would find someway to f it up CGI just saying
I agree. Like you have one job.
Correction: Cad Bane is actually roughly 71 years old
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Andrewdominate He’s just a true Star Wars fan
2:53 also says the guy with a Mario hat in his room
@MasterYoda066 Correct, I am also a nerd. You are very wise master yoda but you should learn about sarcasm
Is 71, but his species live longer than humans, so he might feel younger than most human feel with that age!
the most annoying thing about star wars is that i know more about star wars than the people making star wars
The reason Katee Sackhoff looks like Bo Katan is because the character's appearance was based on her from the beginning. Filoni had Katee in mind when he created Bo for her to voice in CW and also hoped she'd get to play her in live action eventually, so this was always the plan
Katee Sackhoff recently told in one episode of her Podcast that Bo Catan was designed after the image of Dave Filonis Wife. I honstly don´t know wether Katee Sackhoff did play a part in the Character design of Bo Katan but Dave Filonis first intentions was, as i said based on his Wife.
It was by the way the Interview with Sam Witwer on her UA-cam Channel where she told this Story.
I heard that. It’s why she’s probably my favorite animation to live action adaptation. Though I freaked with Thrawn and Ezra too. All I cared about with Thrawn was the voice and the charisma and they nailed both.
I just wanted to add to the Ahsoka bit. They have also done longer lekku in live action before. Shaak Ti is also a Togruta and she had long ass lekku. Granted, Shaak Ti didn't have to move very much with the prosthetics on, thus having them that long would be impractical for more acrobatic scenes. But even still, they could've found some kind of way to get longer lekku and still made the costume maneuverable. There are many ways to get good looking results without sacrificing functionality. Other than that, I do agree that Rosario Dawson is the perfect casting for Ahsoka and her performance is amazing.
Hell they could have cgid them
And I'm going to have to respectfully disagree roasrio kind if vaguely looks like ahsoka but just doesn't act like her she's wooden and acts uninterested most the time and dint give me the she's older she acts differently crap if we didnt know that was ahsoka would you really think she is roasrio is just an orange lady
But the girl who played younger ahsoka during the flashbacks she did a good job
@@wordlesslfiddling Ever since Ahsoka left the Jedi Order, she has been in a state of uncertainty it doesn't matter how much time has passed. Once you learn the results it will have an impact on you. Now could Rosario Dawson be a bit more expressive for sure. However, her personality is comparable to an older Ahsoka from Rebels which was a lot more neutral in mind.
She's 47 in terms of lore, people around this age aren't going to magically act like a child or a teenager, they have their own worries issues, and limitations due to age. Aside from this Ahsoka is also struggling to balance both the Light and Dark since she is a Grey Jedi and their code is.
"Flowing Through All
There is Balance
There is no peace without
A passion to create
Knowledge stagnates without
The Strength to Act
There is Freedom in
Life
There is a purpose in
Death
The force is all things and
I am the Force"
Obviously, there are different ways to write this but all dictate the same thing in the show it shows she fears to let the dark side out as she fears it will consume her. Which is also now affecting her own decision-making.
Wasn't there a scene in the arc with the brother, sister, and father where an older Ahsoka comes up in a vision to padaway Ahsoka warning her of the dangers ahead? I vaguely remember her Lekku were much longer. Guess you can say that is just a vision and not a real version of her but still, would've been cool to see something like that
@@sinisterisrandom8537Mate, grey Jedi aren’t a canon thing. Closest thing is maverick like Jedi (Qui-Gon Jinn).
Also just because Ashoka has aged doesn’t mean that it is a sensible choice to vastly change her characteristics without explaining why. And her main characteristics is her compassion and stubbornness with witty humour sprinkled around it. She went from an energetic and compassionate character in clone wars to an older and more reserved version in rebels (great character development) to an emotionless and bland wooden imitation in mandolin and her own show. And as a big Ashoka fan (from clone wars and rebels at least, I rly disliked her in her own show - her appearance in mando was iffy but I could stand it).
@@DatBoi127I mean she got older, people usually have a different outlook about life and become more jaded or neutral… or at the least maturing.
I got one major continuation error that was actually a positive. Somehow General Syndulla got an ABSOLUTE wagon in them orange pants
Lmao
Only a Sith deals in absolutes
well then call me Darth Downbadius@@ECSOrder66
Fun fact: Clancy Brown (Mr.Krabs) also voiced Savage Opress in The Clone Wars
Fun and obscure fact: He also plays that mandolorian Obi-Wan knocked out in the elevator after he rescued Satine.
@@andrewdominate 😮
And he's the red devaronian in Mando s1!
At least the Grand Inquisitor actually has an explanation for his different appearance, as Reva likely destroyed one of his stomachs when she stabbed him, leaving him with only one. This means that it’d be much harder for him to gain weight, leading to him becoming skinnier as we see in Rebels. It’s still silly though, and he should’ve just looked the same from the start, but at least it can be explained
Never really thought about that before. That is a good explanation as to why he's skinnier in Rebels.
I do agree but in the earth Vader comics which are before obi wan he is skinnier, but Disney has changed details in books and comics before. But I do really like this explanation.
@@IrokCorrander that could just be chalked up to the art style. Comic books aren’t necessarily known for depicting the most realistic visuals. But I still think the Inquisitor should have just been skinny in the show and actually looked like a Pau’an instead of having to come up with random explanations to explain the discrepancy.
you serious? If you stab me in a lung or a kidney and leave me in a garbage, I will die despite having two of them. This entire show is trash.
@@Сайтамен it’s xenobiology, Pau’ans likely don’t operate the same way as humans in real life. And also, you could absolutely live with one kidney. Ever heard of a kidney transplant?
7:59 So. At first I was going to go on a tangent about how Doug Chiang (the guy speaking) was the art director for the prequels and how I’m so confused he would have messed this up, BUT, I just looked into that a bit further and apparently he only worked on 1 and 2, not 3. So I suppose it’s fair he didn’t realize they had created that design already, but it’s a bummer no one else thought to relay that to him. He has done great work for Star Wars.
Yeah, there is no doubt he's talented af. Ignoring the fact that The Grand Inquisitor was a preexisting character. It's actually a good design, and it looks good for a TV show budget.
Yeah but for a a guy in his position it is the absolute minimum to know something like that. Even if he didnt work on episode 3, he should have watched it, but even that wouldnt be necessary if he just googled Grand Inquisitor species. Stop finding excuses for people who mess up.
I'm glad to hear that at least. He seemed really passionate so I felt bad.
Regarding the eyes: Harry Potter in the books famously inherited his mom's green eyes. When shooting the first movie they actually tried to give him contacts, but either he had an allergic reaction or they hurt him in general (contacts for kids can be difficult), so Daniel Radcliffe played the role with his normal gray eyes. To maintain eye continuity, the studio cast the also gray-eyed Geraldine Somerville as the adult Lily Potter. Years later, Ellie Darcey-Alden was cast to play young Lily. She in turn has brown eyes, so they tried contacts again, but similarly to Daniel Radcliffe, she had some sort of reaction, so she played the role without them. Her part was pretty short, so I think after effects could have done the trick, but that wasn't done for some reason.
TLDR: Contacts, especially with children, seem to be kind of a hassle.
Didn't know that. Thanks!
Cad banes voice sounded great cause it was the voice actor, corey burton, who voiced him again. Lars mikkelson also has crazy natural high cheekbones so the only prosthetics used was his forehead and the actor has a real lanky muscular body(hes also 6,4"), the reason he has a gut is simply the clothes. He also voiced him in the show. Almost all SW clothes on actors makes them look bigger. Unless its like a shirt, pants, dress and maybe vest or sweater. Rosario Dawson had 14yr old Ahsoka lekku for practical purposes. As another commenter said, the actress for shaak ti didn't move around much and it was BECAUSE of the lekku and montrails. They eere so big she had trouble just walking! I mean Ahsoka is Dave Filoni's baby, you really think he wouldn't do everything possible to have her perfect in live action? It just can't be done in some instances. Almost all the characters on the list were created or used by Dave Filoni when he was doing animation and hes George Lucas' apprentice. You can ask the guy anything about SW its continuity etc and he knows it (like Grand Inquisitors race, Paawan, being in live action first) but he comes from an animation background. Doug Chiang had to wrangle him in a bit cause Filoni wanted the characters 100% accurate.
Good list overall but just wanted to give you a bit more info (and opinion)on everything
I'm aware of all this, but thanks. Also, that gut is not just a side effect of "the cloths". Lars has a gut. I've seen him interviews. I am glad they casted him in live action because he does have similar bone structure to Thrawn except for the forehead. That's what I was referring too when I said "prosthetics". Plus I love his thrawn voice. In regards to Ahsoka, I am already aware as to why her Lekku are so short. But the reasoning is irrelevant because I was ranking it on accuracy. Anyway I'm glad you liked the video dude. What's your what's your ranking?
He did everything to ruin her character, so...
Why did he make this aweful show then if he wants her to be perfect?☠️
I liked the video but I have 1 complaint, to say Doug Chiang has no knowledge of Star Wars is just laughably incorrect. Doug worked on almost everything Star Wars since Phantom Menace, he was Lucas’s right hand man for designs, if you want to design something you go to Doug
Exactly
Then it’s worse. Dude went from legend to incompetent
Doug was likely stuck with a no-win situation. The actor was cast likely for performance reasons and nothing else, and either he didn’t want to act through a huge prosthetic or the budget wouldn’t allow for that kind of daily makeup expense. That left Doug with the impossible task of not only redesigning the character based on these limitations but also coming up with a plausible explanation for why (without throwing anyone under the bus).
Chopper is so so good, I feel like all the 'main' Rebels characters are amazing: Chopper, Hera, Ezra, Sabine and Zeb. All perfect, in my opinion
im so glad you pointed out the chonker of thrawn i laughed my ass off when i first saw him
Nice video! The edits made me laugh fr. I pretty much agree with your list 99%! Only thing I would say is to give more credit to Doug Chiang, as he worked on the Prequels and was designing for Star Wars before Disney. I think something went wrong along the way with how the inquisitor turned out. I personally think it was the actor that screwed the way he looks.
It’s weird I bet the real reason was actually wanting to cut down on budget/hassle with the prosthetics and they didn’t actually forget we’ve seen his species in live action as I’m pretty sure Doug Chiang had involvement with designing the Pau’an if not definitely has seen them before
@@pupulauls I don't think he had involvement with the Pau'an species since he wasn't involved on Ep III, only I and II
Sabine was cocky with Ezra, but she almost always followed orders. Disrespecting your fallen comrades by ignoring the ceremony without any reason and even endangering the pilots is a whole another level of a bitch. Not to mention trading the galaxy's safety for a chance to see Ezra again...
There was zero romance either. Tf did she endanger the galaxy for just to say an awkward hi
So about Ahsoka’s Lekku. Dave Filloni addressed this when she was introduced in the Mandalorian Season 2. He stated that they did in fact have the longer Lekku, to match her Rebels appearance. But the Lekku were so heavy and bulky that it nearly made it impossible for Rosario to do ANY stunts.
I wonder if they could have used CGI for for her head things in the action scenes, and just had the long ones on for talking scenes. I think marvel kinda does something like that all the time.
I'm slightly disappointed you didn't mention how Zeb's species, Lasats, have made a semi-live-action appearance. Cal Kestis's master in Jedi: Fallen Order was a Lasat, so you could have said it was the closest thing before Mando season 3 to a live-action transition.
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Honestly Ezra is probably my number 1. He was easily the best cast in the Ahsoka cast except David Tennant and Clancy Brown obviously. He was so well cast I don’t even care that his hair isn’t blue anymore. You could just say it darkened with age. I also love how he looks like Jesus. Also you actually forgot another character from Rebels in Ahsoka. The senator Ryder introduces to cover for Sabine’s absence is Jai Kell who was Ezra’s classmate when he was at the stormtrooper academy and later helped in the last few episodes to free Lothal.
The weird thing about the Grand Inquisitor in Kenobi is the man in that clip is Doug Chiang. He was one of the lead concept artists for the prequels. So this man not only worked for Lucas while the Pau'an race was originally developed, I think it's likely he personally designed the Pau'an race for ROTS. Doug Chiang is great, his art and ideas are amazing, but that clip of him is weird.
Doug is not credited for ROTS, but it's still surprising if he didn't know.
Damn, didn't love all the takes on here but you nailed Zeb. The whole process of live-action to animation, and the reverse. That's exactly why he looks perfect.
Hera flying that ship raggin on Chopper is everything! She IS flying a fuckin spaceship being shot at in the upper atmosphere
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Thanks, man. I appreciate it
The thing I don't get is that they literally modeled the Grand Inquisitor after Jason Isaacs in the show and had him voice him and then didn't bother getting him back like that's his face it's not even that exaggerated
More star wars! That was a great video!
Grand Inquisitor feels even more like a slap in the face because the voice actor for him in the show, Jason Isaacs, has stated that he would have loved to play Grant Inquisitor in live action, and he would have been perfect for it.
Alright I feel Doug Chiang is just straight up lying there because he was literally one of the major art designers for the prequels
I love how he kept saying "they brought back the actor to voice.. so and so" as if every single one of them is an iconic actor themselves. 🤣
Zeb is definitely the best, fully agree
It could be fun to see the reverse, like animated adaptations of live action characters. Obviously there'd be a loooot more, so it could be divided like just the characters from the Original Trilogy for example, as those won't appear in the Clone Wars too much, etc.
Really impressive video how don't you have more subscribers?
Thanks dude
Having live action reference and messing it up that bad is just baffling
I read this as star wars transitions ranked like the screen wipe.
They really should’ve just gotten Jason Isaac’s to play the grand inquisitor since he played him in rebels
Great list, love these vids. I agree with your number one choice, Zeb looked great in Mandalorian, I’m surprised that they did him so well
In my opinion it was more distracting when they use the colored contacts on Hera and Ezra bc it just looks so unnatural I’d prefer a small continuity error with the eye color over Ezra’s weird looking eyes in the live action show
7:13 This guy worked on "Revenge of the Sith." He's been at Lucasfilm for decades. He's actually in the behind the scenes documentaries on the Sith DVD and is one of their primary concept artists. He was ignorant, he just plum forgot. XD
My big problem with Ahsoka in her show is the lack of emotion
Lothal Senator Jai Kell from the Ahsoka show was such a good adaptation he was off the charts hence why he didn’t make the video (He was a cadet in Rebels S1 and also had a role in the Season 4 final episodes)
This was probably already said in the comments, but the reason her Lekku is so short was because it was getting in the way of Rosario's fighting scenes.... But once again, if you look at Shaak' Ti's Lekku in the movies.. they are the length they are supposed to be... You do see he fight as well. So maybe Ahsok'a costume designer should take notes, or make Ahsok'a Lekku out of the same material that they made Shakk' Ti's rather than whatever foam rubber they made Ahsoka's out of!
One thing that baffles me every time I see it is when the film crew forgets to give the characters their contact lenses. Mythrol (the blue alien guy from The Mandalorian) has a scene in Season 2 where he suddenly has brown eyes, and it's a close-up shot of his face... HOW CAN YOU FORGET THE CONTACT LENSES in such a shot? And why does the SFX crew not correct that mistake afterwards? 😪
It's crazy to me that Obi-Wan Kenobi was planned for YEARS before it even started production and it was still a complete rush job, right down to the looks of important characters. I don't blame the makeup team, I assume they were given really shitty deadlines and instruction, but the Grand Inquisitor and Fifth Brother were SO messed up
I thought that the voice actor for Thrawn was also the actor for live action?
He is
I'm upset he mentioned it for others, my guy played him well.
My biggest problem with the costumes is they're all so clean, and it's not just the costumes. All the scenes and areas just look so sterile. They should've invested in a bag of dirt and sprinkled it on everything.
I think every translation after Jason was good or great. Cad Bane is my favorite bounty hunter and I always felt he looked different from his species in clone wars anyway. Zeb not being in Ashoka was also a let down.
Cad Bane is badass. Honestly, I really like his look in Book of Boba Fett. The only reason he was so low is cuz I was trying to rank it on accuracy.
@@andrewdominate I get it. Also shows how good they did the others.
Yea cad bane good but can't beat boba fett
If only they didn't ruin their characters.
Doug Jones would be a perfect cast for the grand inquisitor but no...Disney do all wrong with the character
Bro,that "make up guy" is DOUG CHANG WHO WORKED ON PREQUELS WITH GEORGE
How did you ever think that Sabine was white 😂
Live action Ezra looks like historically accurate Jesus (minus the blue eyes)
Pretty much agree with all of this. Idk what they did but the inquisitors look so bad and aren’t menacing at all. I hate the way they adapted Cad Bane but at least he’s kinda scary.
Also I never in a million years would have noticed eye color but good on you for catching that.
My only wish is that you covered not just their physical traits but the whole personalities and characterizations of these characters as well. Since that’s as (or more) important than how they look to me. But that’s probably beyond the scope of one video, and maybe worthy of another vid in the future?
Great video!
I love how thrawn just looks like a blue hitler without the mustache
I think a good actor to play the 5th brother could’ve been that really tall guy from John Wick 3
I think they said something about Ahsoka's lekku's for Mando. They were forced to make them short so Rosario could move easily and duel normally, they didn't really want to make them short, but had no choice really. Some say that Shaak Ti in ROTS had long lekku's and there was no problem with that. Difference is that Shaak Ti was just in one scene and she was mainly sitting on the floor, Ahsoka was dueling in the show.
Ahoka's Lekku was shorter because the longer Lekku would had a problem when doing fight scenes.
That’s not really an excuse to have it be shorter than it should be and they could have had it be shorter and use CG to have it look as long as it should
Chopper is my number one! He's a menace to society and I love him!
Dang this was a great video. I would love to see something similar but the opposite, like top 15 worst character transitions from live action to animation if that makes sense. Yea itll be a lot more subjective becayse of the art style purposely making caricatures, but it would be a cool video nonetheless
We do really need to see zeb again in ahsoka s2 a lot more
underrated ✨
Just wait until someone realises that one senator who hated on hera in Ashoka was in an animated series
I didn't include background characters or characters with very minor rolls. Hamato was in one scene in Star Wars Resistance. I also didn't include Jai Kell because he literally didn't have any lines in Ahsoka. At the beginning of the video, I did say I wasn't going to be including a few characters. I just did a "☝️🤓 Um Actually" to YOUR "☝️🤓 Um Actually".
Hiya! What about a video of 'best Movie characters adapted in animation' ?
That would be a 6-hour video
@@andrewdominate fair point , but what about a top 5, 10, 15 or 20?
Maybe the leku's shrink when they're cold. I know some body parts work like that...
Sabine in Ahsoka looks nothing like she does in Rebels. They had to add a piss filter to the scene where she looks at the mural with her Rebels incarnation drawn on it to distract from how different the actress looks from her animated incarnation (even ignoring the stylistic choices of Rebels' art-style).
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I understand reworking Ahsoka and the GI for functionality in action sequences, more dynamic movement, long shoot days, etc. Obviously, being a background character and a main character with action sequences and extended scenes means there can't be the exact same design elements for several reasons, but it still feels too toned down. I wonder if there just weren't any other ways to approach them or how they could push those difficult design elements further. Doug Chiang's explanation of the Grand Iquisitor probably doesn't help that point though, lol.
4:24 he has the same actor as Hitman agent 47
9:54 damn how could you choose green contacts over the raw emotion his actual eyes bring to the scene. Gotta say Saw is one of my favorite animation to live action transitions, I woulda preferred they didn’t use contacts for ezra
Well thrawn was legends character we only see illustrations of him in book cover and comics cause there’s no pre existing actors back then before thrawn was adapted in animated and made him canon.
Great ranking
Wait no! Bo is definitely above Sabine if just slightly. I agree Sabine’s maneurisms and armor were great, but I need her doing more artsy stuff. Bo Katan always felt seamless to me. Though I do agree that Zeb was done really well. I’d give many of the characters that appeared for the first time in Ahsoka a chance to be tweaked in later projects. I bet Herra’s makeup and Thrawn’s prosthetics will be improved over time like with Ahsoka.
21:04 I know, right.
I agree that the Grand Inquisitor definently could have been portrayed better in live action, especially because he didn't have any fight scenes. Thus not needing significant adjustments like with Ahsoka's montrals. But you suggested that Doug Chang dosn't get Star Wars but he has been working on Star Wars since the phantom menace.
To be fair, the overall continuity, as you say, of the Torguta head tails is odd. They tend to slip in length, depending on the age, if I'm not mistaken. So her show has it well. But, yes, the Mandalorian did crack it. Then again, I'm biased because, to be fair, she's my favourite character in the whole Star Wars. Others share a second place, but she holds the sweet first spot. Sometimes shared, though that's very rare and she's never overthrown. Anyways, yeah, the head tails are odd in general, or so I've noticed, so...
I'll say this as to why Jason's eyes weren't green -- due to laws regarding children on sets of films and child actors, unlike an adult, they cannot coax or convince a child to wear contact lenses if they are allergic to them, and most film companies do NOT want to risk a child actor having an allergic reaction like that because it can be very serious and it will mean the child HAS to be hospitilised. No one wants that for a child. They likely decided in post not to digitally edit it, either, because that's a lot of money down the drain on a small detail that will look even worse if a few frames are missed in post-edit.
8:46 This is the same guy?😮
Yup. Same character
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Tbh, my main complaint about the grand inquisitor is the head, and it's NOT impossible AT ALL to get something close to that head shape. My uncle literally has the head shape from the cartoon. I wouldn't expect him to get hired, but you can't tell me you can't find some megamind lookin dude that's a half decent actor.
And i personally think huyang got waxed or something. I do agree though, just a little less shiny
The grand inquisitor thing literally makes no sense as that’s Doug Chiang, a guy who was majorly involved in making the prequels
My top picks are probably Bo Katan and Ahsoka. Herra took some getting used to, but once I got over the different voice I think she was done well. Oh Thrawn is up there too though I need to see more of him before ranking him. I thinknk Ezra is just above Thrawn for me. Definitely in the top 3 to 5 for me. Of course characters like Cad Bane and Zeb were done well, these were just the ones that stuckck out to me when I thouhht about my rankings. Buut Bo’s definitely right at the top either way.
How could you rank thrawn higher than ahsoka???
Also, it was George Lucas who put Kathleen Kennedy in charge not Disney
Gorge caused the butchering of his own work?
Live action Sabine sent my lesbian meters into overdrive istg
Everyone was simping for her dude🤣
I think that the cartoon from the Holiday Special could be canon, but Boba Fett's first appearance was in a parade a few months ago before the Holiday Special released so it wouldn't count.
Couldn’t disagree more both Sabine and Ahsoka look terrible.
The makeup and tails on Ahsoka look extremely fake like they didn’t even try to make it look real (the prequels did a better job with Aayla secura)
As for Sabine the actress fits the part but her armour looks like absolute shit, it’s looks like cheap plastic. (They did a 10/10 job with bo but a terrible 3/10 job with Sabine. Awful.
Bo and Ezra looked great though.
This one thing star wars is doing better than the mcu
The MCU hasn’t adapted any character from animation to live action
We could just chalk cad banes skin shade up to his older age
I feel like the fifth brother just doesn't look like the fifth brother
it's the fact that they could get the lekku right for shak ti for her 3 seconds of screen time in the prequels, why couldn't they do it for the main character of her own series!!
As much as a I agree with you that the Grand inquisitors design was flawed, to say "Disney Star Wars just hire people who know nothing about Star Wars" is ridiculous as the person you are talking about and clip you shown is literally Doug Chiang lol, he was lead for Lucasfilm's art department in 1995 as he was the design director for Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones and today is the senior vice president and executive design director of Lucasfilm. Yes the design is flawed but he definitely knew of the previous design from revenge of the Sith. Obviously there was massive issues at play behind the scenes that we don't know about. But Doug has done incredible work for years.
I wish sabines hair was longer
I feel that some of the characters would just have been animated Star Wars characters because if you make a character in animation you’ll struggle to make them in live action
What about Jai Kell??????
Doesn’t even look like the same person lol
Do a reverse version of this
That’d take forever
thrawn was trapped so he grew some blubber 🤣
I think every rebel in the Ahsoka show including Ahsoka was perfect! Yes, Ahsoka's lakuu, (sorry I can't spell that lol) in the Mandalorian were way too short, and it did kind've annoy me. In Ahsoka, they fixed them. They might not be quite as long as her animated counterpart, but being an actual headpiece, I completely understand, so it doesn't bother me anymore. Rasario was perfect casting! Just like Natasha was perfect casting for Sabine and so on!!! I don't have any problem with Sabine now, but when she first cut her hair, I admit, I didn't like it. That's how her hair is in Rebels though, so it grew on me, but I prefer her long hair she had if I'm being honest. Speaking of the Ahsoka show, I thought it was as perfect as Dave could make it!!! I love it with a passion, and everything made sense to me!!! 10/10!!! I'm so beyond happy season 2 got confirmed and Dave got promoted to CCO!!!!!
Sung Kang who plays Fifth Brother is actually 6 feet tall. He’s taller than me.
I feel most of these critiques are kinda petty. Like not everyone can put on colored contacts to match the eye color in their animated counterpart. To you it may be distracting, but to most people it’s barely even noticeable. Performance and portrayal matters most at the end of the day, and quite a number of them deserves higher spots on this list for performance alone.
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Question but let’s say we bump this list from 15 characters to 16, and we include Ariana Greenblatt’s young Ahsoka on the list, where would she be?
Doug Chiang has been with Star Wars since Episode 1.
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