*STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS* Can't Math
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- I think I need to stop saying side note after this video. No I don't have ocd I just watch too much clone wars lol.
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Somehow, those clone troopers returned.
😂😂
Some how Longshot returned
@@suarezfan99his survival wasn’t a long shot then?
@@glitchedsouls7593 No it was still a long shot but he returned
I love the use of lego minifigures
legos goated
I have the exact same need to count the clones that live and die and noticed this happens a lot
Any episodes you know of that I missed that has this? And glad I’m not the only one!
@@Aaron_Compton The bomb squad troopers magically disappear from Mystery of the Thousand Moons, Crisis at Heart platform battle where Thorne dies has a bunch of dudes just appearing in front of him then disappearing. I think you got the most egregious ones. Also I think in background of Arc troopers episode when echo and fives are made arcs we see havoc standing in the background who should be dead and then the model later switches to Hammer
Yes, i know i was not the only one, as a child i always found it weird
This is a common issue in movies, like you see 10 baddies, the hero kills 50 baddies and at the end there is still 10 baddies.🤔😅
And what’s funny too is with scenes like that there’s another problem where those 10 will fight the hero one at a time instead of like fighting all at once, which is so incredibly dumb of them to do 😂
@@Aaron_Compton Honor requires it I suppose.😂
"somehow random ass clone trooper returned" still makes more sense then palpatine
Every clone has a HUD in their helmet that gives readouts on their vitals and other important data and they are able to sync their HUDs with other clones so Cody would have been able to tell that Longshot was dead the moment his vitals dropped and Obi-Wan knows Cody well enough to likely know that if Cody isn't checking the downed trooper than that trooper is dead.
So, if every single Clone Trooper is also a Stealth Trooper, why don't they use that advantage a lot more often?
See that’s what I’m saying!
I will pleasure myself to the infographic at 23:30 for the rest of my life. Also this arc didn't have enough Jar Jar.
You scare me
We need the next reaction to clone wars ASAP!!!!
The math for the episode with the zombie bugs can be described like this: your final answer was correct but the steps you took to get to it were not
Exactly 😂
Now you have me thinking.
If SWTCW is an in-universe propaganda piece then the extra deaths are justification... because it wouldn't look good to have the "good guys" show up and slaughter everyone without taking any losses. So they added in deaths.
Then all you have to do is rewatch and mentally edit out those deaths to see the brutal remorseless one-sided slaughter that the Clone Wars was!
That’s math right there
It also helps smooth over issues it caused in the old EU (now legends)
Or they didn't have enough extras, so despite lowering the deaths to make the heroes more heroic, they still have incorrect math
Darth plagues the wise was so strong, that he could save other Clone troopers lifes.
it's also real fun when a math problem is retroactively created, like with what happened with The Clone Wars movie and the Obi-Wan show, in the film Rex and a few unpainted 501st clones are captured by and later make a final stand against a droid unit at the Teth monestary until they are rescued by Cody and the 212th, by the end of the fight all but Rex and a single 501st trooper are killed, season 7 implied that surving 501st trooper was Ridge, who was namedropped earlier in the film, but the release of the Obi-Wan show saw the reintroduction of Nax into canon as the homeless 501st veteran as confirmed by a visual guide, which mentions that Nax was part of the Battle of Teth (like in the film's novelization where he originally appeared), which retroactively makes the movie's math wrong, as now there are 3 501st survivors, Rex, Ridge and Nax, despite the film only showing 2, any additional generic clones are just 212th troopers that came with Cody.
See as much knowledge I have on this show, I feel like you could’ve made a better video on it 😂
Appreciate your comments man!
I think the worst example for me comes in S2 Ep9, conveniently this also applies to the 212th Legion (guess Kenobi is just hiding his men above until they’re on screen). They were doing so well with having 3 men alongside Cody to keep Grievous from escaping the ship, with 2 of them dying which is perfectly represented in the shots with that sole reg being alive… Until they board into Anakin's shuttle, where that clone suddenly disappears as they’re getting on board even though he's there for the outside shot.
Where did he go?! Is he safe? Is he alright…?
Oh shit you’re right! That’s a great catch I forgot about that but you nailed it
I will say sometimes a character being absent in a shot where they should be, can be due to limitations with the character model, the most noticeable example is after Fives' death, where the shock troopers take off their helmets and stand in a circle around Anakin, Rex and Fives, in that shot Commander Fox is noticeably absent, which is most likely due to Fox never being given a helmetless appearance, always being shown with his helmet on, additionally most clone officers are given something unique about their head, especially if they are a reoccurring character, it's likely that they didn't feel that one scene at the VERY end of a single episode was enough justification to create a unique head for Fox, especially since as far as what publicly available information there is, that episode was his final appearance in the show, so they just opted to intentionally leave him out. unrelated but the clone killed alongside Denal is named "Koho"
That’s cool to know, thanks!
Shrodingers Clones
13:39 When Krell says "We will attack them with all our force", he's talking about the final attack on the capital. Anakin's plan, that Rex tried to persuade Krell into following was to split up the 501st into multiple squads, which would've approached and attacked the capital on different routes from the same general direction. Krell refused to split his forces, opting to lead the entire battallon along the same route, so that they are together when they reach the capital, and thus attack it from one place with all their forces.
He was not talking about attacking the road with everything they had, because they didn't even know there were Umbaran forces stationed nearby. Rex's squad went-in with the intention of secureing the road, so that the entire battallion can march along it towards the capital.
Isn’t it poetic that people can find mistakes in my video talking about mistakes 😂
Haha thanks for the info!
Fun fact, turret guy is named Koho
Oh cool thanks! Where’d you learn that btw?
@@Aaron_Compton it was in the episode guide for the episode back in the day, and he’s remained named in Disney canon due to that
Next time you watch clone wars, remember 1 Venator is supposed to be able to beat 5 Munificent frigates.
Another prequel meme to add to my collection.
😂
Somehow those clone troopers return also great video
Yeah, like the first two seasons do that, but then they fix that for the rest of the show or for at least most of the show I’ve watched every episode like 50 times o7
“Watched every episode like 50 times”
So you’re telling me you’ve got good taste, we love to see it! 😁
Yep
There is a logical explanation for all of these.
The Force.
The Force is the plot contrivance that makes the plot happen.
Also
Enjoyed the video. Much funny.
Aww damn you’re right
oh my, I CAN NEVER UNSEE THIS
I’m sorry I had to do this to you 😂
Speaking of clone wars problems, the republic military structure is so wacky. They have the rank of commander, a naval rank, in the army and are missing so many regular army ranks such as colonels, 2nd lieutenants, and most NCO ranks. Worse still, they can’t make up their minds on how the structure actually works, having a captain leading an entire legion, (which was about 8,000 men), yet having a commander, who is higher ranking than a captain, leading a battalion (according to Wikipedia being between 300 and 1200 men).
So in legends the ranks are as followed:
Marshal Commander
Senior Cmdr
Regimental Cmdr
Battalion Cmdr
Major
Captain
Lt
2nd Lt
Sgt Major
Sgt
Cpl
Private/Trooper
The 501st under rex’s command isn’t the entire unit rather only a company (or so its supposed to be but TCW never cared for continuity and sucks)
@@ulty1472 To be fair, thats in legends, not even in the actual series, and it still skips several ranks such as lance corporal, and a few other sergeant ranks. And if we're assuming that the commanders replace all of the other ranks, that would mean that the actual clone army only goes up to lieutenant general, so unless they had a lot of jedi to fill the upper echelons, they've decapitated half of the leadership ranks: General, Marshal, and Field Marshal.
@@ulty1472 Feel free to correct me, as I'm probably wrong, but if this is the case (which I assume it is because it makes sense, but who knows, clone wars was wacky), then that would mean that Anakin was actually over qualified to be leading the legion, the most likely rank to be leading one being a Major General, or in our case, Marshal Commander, whereas Anakin, a Jedi General, most likely had the equivalent of the rank of General. My point on Cody still stands though. A Marshal commander should not be leading a battalion of men.
@@Purple_694 ok so marshal commander would be equivalent to major general however MCMDRs led Corps (which are analogous to US Army Division rather than US Army Corps), Legions/Brigades were led by Senior Commanders. I forgot exactly where Jedi fit into this but I believe Jedi Generals co-lead these larger units
You’re crushing it my guy. Great video. I’d love to hear your theories on why the creators were so lazy about the math, but also I respect a video just pointing out the inconsistencies lol
If I’m analyzing it seriously about the creators it was probably just some miscommunication between the writers and the artists.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
The way I immediatly knew the worst one was going to be the Citadel Arc 😭😭
Haha I love the arc but man is the math just so wrong 😂
Y'know, for an Elliot, this video is really good! ;)
Great video. I subscribed after the open season. Would love to see another like this
Happy to see you from that video!
Same here. I knew immediately this might be one of my favorite UA-camrs
How does he not have more subs funniest UA-camr I’ve seen
Appreciate you!
Honestly this is a really cool episode I never really paid that much attention to it watching it as a kid
Dude I could watch 10 hours of this!! Like you could make this a 100 part series and I would not get bored. Hell I’m gonna sub just in case it happens. As a kid I LOVED doing this sort of thing. Funny enough I’ve actually specifically picked through these exact episodes and came to your conclusions years ago! There’s so many good examples of this. The disappearing 212th clone in grevious intrigue, commander ponds disappearing kama etc
Glad you enjoyed it so much! And thank you for the sub! I’ll definitely consider doing another one of these 😁
In rebels, I wear Sabine leaves her helmet in an exploding ship 50 times
Oh don’t even get me started on rebels inconsistencies 😂
Just found this channel and I love it! I will be tuning in for more uploads! o7
Happy to hear!
0:13 its funny, a video about mistakes making a mistake about one of the mistakes. They've said it wasnt a starbucks but a local cafe
Ah fuck my math wasn’t mathing 😂
so in a world of lazer swords, spaceships, telekinetic monks and angry teenagers that kill children your worried about the maths... sounds about right
Yes
Maybe clones are just really resistant and the show makes you think they died, like the ones pulled off from the group by zombies just caught up later.
i will never be able to watch the show again knowing the numbers are bad "mason the numbers what do they mean"
Nah the logic is they have the Mysterious Stranger/Miss Fortune perk activating
6:07 unrelated but this has gotta be the only fandom where you'd be judged for wearing merch
Yeah it’s kinda crazy 😂
o7 to the fallen, but when one falls........ more spawn in randomly :/
True that 😂
6:07 I'm glad you said that. This T-shirt really confused me.
Good video btw
Haha thanks!
This was very funny, ima be real I never noticed those things before. Now I am going to pay a lot of attention to those things XD, hope you upload more W vid
Haha appreciate it!
21:28 artoo saved that droid
This broke my immersion in an entertaining way lmao
I’m glad it was at least entertaining 😂
Im happy you made this video, ive also recognised this many times. There are many more mistakes you can find.
Oh I’m sure I’ve barely cracked the surface 😂
I haven’t watched the full video but I got a feeling the citadel arc is going to be in this.
I knew it.
LOL
Love the video, haven’t really watched much SW that genuinely made me laugh more than once or twice. Definitely checking out your channel, a few videos have already caught my eye 😂
Haha glad you liked it!
10:52 Bro said for number two the number drops down to two one runs by (two run by) and a third one back there
That’s a clone and anakin, not two clones. I realize it’s a little confusing with the timing of my commentary
so glad you caught the boil one, that really bugged me
Same man, same
0:57 nah bro how little budget did they have 🗿🗿🗿 or maybe the animators where doing a lil trolling like giving droids off and on back packs every 2 frames
Yo me too!
I always focused on the un named clone deaths
cad bane be like;
and i suuposte to have numbers advantage with droinds;
clones look like dont not only clone on camino but also on the battelfeld; ;]
Love this! You deserve so many more likes, for real
Thank you! I appreciate that!
Matchstick crashed into Tag... i dont see them as counting the gunners.. because then its just "6, 7, and 10 were caught in the ray." They only counted the pilots
Tho one has to say:
Seeing those regular Clones as expandables was actually a whole Part of the Show itself.
Showing that Clonetroopers were used as canonfodder by a regime which actually saw them as expandable, with caring Generals Like ObiWan or Skywalker being the exception.
Turns out that a lot of clones didnt feel guilty during Order66, as they were aware of their supposed Worth in the Eyes of the Jedi.
(Which was actually portrait in the Old StarWars Battlefront II Campaign or the Republic Commandos Storys)
I like to see this as a way of cinematic means, as I think the Clones themselves told the Storys of the Clonewars.
So whenever they faced Combat, nobody was exactly sure How many of their Clone comrades were actually still alive or even present when a firefight took Place.
But thats Just my own humble opinion.
Edit: Well okay ObiWan does not really care about Clones ngl
I appreciate your thoughts!
Explenatin: 5 clones became gods and started helping out in missions
😂
Okay okay so what if like At the end of legacy of terror there’s three surviving 212th troopers. Then right after the Geonosis arc, there’s grevious intrigue and there’s 3 of them again. What if it’s the same guys? Then 1 get air locked and another disappears but imagine he died idk. But point is there’s one left. Next time we see 212th troopers is the citadel arc. And perhaps maybe the reason Cody is upset Longshot dies is because in recent time they had worked closely on missions and were the sole survivors each time
1:38 this drives me crazy now especially with the bad batch where they are low on clone numbers 😅😂
In the second 2 episode with Cody they had 8 clones, 12 clones died during the episode and end with 8-10
I knew pretty quickly this was going to touch on the citadel arc. My god, the body count made no sense.
Yeah man that arc is just full of inconsistencies. Still love it tho 😂
Bro is just the same as me noticing these things, either the graphic and numerical inaccuracy, or as my best friend would refer to me, “autistic”
😂😂
3:04 This is the obvious case, considering we see details constantly appear and disappear on characters in this show
It’s kinda crazy how often that happens 😂
2:44 I think I do see Denal but it might just be the shadow
Nah, they just respawned on the squad leader
"because sometimes i don't feel like i'm the main charater of my own story".......... " Jesus that was dark"..." i i sho i should go talk to someone about it"
I’m sure I’m fine 🙂
@@Aaron_Compton yeah just the math of star wars isn’t mathing
There was a scene in the citadel ark where Ashokas lightsabers were blue.
Now i cant forget it when i see it the next time. Thank you xD 😂
You’re welcome 😂
@@Aaron_Compton thanks :)
I just found this weird thing that happens with Captain Rex in the clone wars sometimes he'll go to Bald to blonde buzz cut
Imagine he actually is cutting his hair everyday 😂
it always bothered me how expendable each clone felt
Especially since they try to say how they’re NOT expendable 😭
I have never noticed these errors
5:59 second clone with denal is koho.
love the longshot joke
😂😂
God, I need to rewatch Clone Wars. It's so good... also o7 for Lunchbox and Yogurt, the two previously unnamed clones who had their deaths overshadowed
o7 to our boys
21:30 I'll argue R2 DID, he saved c3po that time in episode 2. he's allowed to save them
If I didn’t see it it didn’t happen!
(You’re probably right tho that’s probably the answer 😂)
@@Aaron_ComptonMe personally, I love lazy writing.
Denal was there when they enter the room with cad bane he's clone trooper that's right behind rex and Ahsoka they forgot to add his blue markings
Yes but I didn’t see it! (You’re probably right) and either way the math still doesn’t work 😂
11:55 I laughed so hard at this
Bro I couldn’t say the thing it was crazy 😂
Now do it for the battles of malastare and geonosis
more of this energy
You got it!
Well for a conflict that is at a galactic level we know the numbers are wrong since the beginning fighting a war with only 6.2 million clones you can't even conquer earth with that 😅
Hello there,
Loved this video. Interesting and unique ❤
I also like the lego 🧱
haha thank you! love me some lego
@@Aaron_Compton watching your open season vid rn
There’s clones who get shot and live. Unlike stormtroopers hair armor was partially blaster resistant.
But this is really funny
haha glad you enjoyed it!
Prequel fans : I am the witness of the greatest media literature and entertainment, I am superior compared to other underlings like the sequels!
Later on the store
Cashier: Sir it will be 30 follars
Prequel fans : Here you go
Cashier : Sir this is a dollar, you need to pay with 29 more dollars
Prequel fans : It's outrageous, it's unfair, why do I need to pay 29 more dollars if 1- 30= 0 ?
Cashier : Sir you are making a scene, either you pay the requested amount or leave
Prequel fans: You underestimate my power... HEY GET OFF
Gets escorted by guards and then fights back
Prequel fans: Gets tased what?! I didn't think that a side character who is behind me and has a clear shot would tase me...
OT fans: You are a fucking dumbass
Sequel fans: "We HaVe ChOrEoGrApHy ThAt MaKeS sEnSe" my ass.
MATH! *bangs fist on table* ALGORITHMS!
MATH IS MATH
Odd question but have you ever watched Heavenly Delusion? It's just so great
I have not! That’s good to know tho!
@@Aaron_Compton If you give it a try, the animation and story is great
11:55 I think Matchstick and Tag were the pilots, and the gunners were left unnamed but still implied in Ahsoka’s report.
Probably would have been inefficient (in battle) to name all four clones KIA from two lost ships. They can pay attention to all losses after the battle (off camera) when time is less of a factor.
Am I the only one who thinks the 212th trooper that got sucked into space above saleucami was probably fine. I mean phase I armor was atmospherically sealed and had oxygen, and I’m pretty sure other republic ships showed up so like, he coulda just been chillin out there waiting to get picked up
See but did he ever get picked up?!?
@@Aaron_Compton I’d like to think he did, but as was established in the video, if it was up to obi wan he probably wasnt
Sorry to ruin ot for you, but he is absolutely dead. P1 clone armor can be sealed for limited survival in a vacuum, but the clone has to seal their armor before entering said vacuum. That 212th trooper got sucked out into space so fast that he didn't have time to seal his armor which means he almost certainly perished.
I see you didn’t know about the secret clone ability of mitosis
Crazyyy
Rogue One the beach battle did the same as the first clone battle where they started with 50 and end up with hundreds were running around after watching 2 U wings make it in and the original drop ship with 50 and I watched half of the original ground assault team get killed off by the Shore trooper Captain with the E-22L and then the AT-ATC’s started blowing through the teams fast, the death troopers started stomping the yard but then dozens of infantry magically appear with no real reason plus multiple U wings came in when you seen only 2 make it through the door plus a few X wings 😅 where did the other X Wings come from. Star Wars is fun if you don’t think about it …. I over analyze every movie and tv show I watch anymore…. I might have developed a weird OCD or autism thing when it comes to movies and tv series 😅😢
Totally the vuy wont stop w the cell phones
great video
19:54 Maybe the second is Longshot
Maybe Longshot lived and regrouped with them somehow at the end there is my head cannon. Also Part 2 when?
WOW !!! Good Video! Good job
Thank you!
10:49 you can see 3 clones there two in the beginning than 2 Jedi than 1 more
I’m not counting Cody in this, so looking at that scene Cody stands there, 1 clone runs by, followed closely by anakin, then obi wan and poggle, then the last clone. Which means there’s only 2 regular clones, 3 if you count Cody!
12:33 i think the pilot are meant not the gunners.
14:27 i didnt have time to count so i said i high number
Starting off weak with a Rise of Skywalker shirt...
Watch the whole video because I do address it lmao
Do Narnia Voyage of the Dawn treader with the crew on the ship
oooo see that's a good idea! Thanks!
I was watching it at noticed it changes all the time
you said 07 that's sev from Delta squad
o7 🙏
They should hire u to do there nath for them